HomeMy Public PortalAbout10-21-10cA Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Council of the Borough of
Carteret was called to order by Mayor Daniel J. Reiman at 6:00
P.M., Thursday, October 21, 2010, Council Chambers, Memorial
Municipal Building, 61 Cooke Avenue, Carteret, New Jersey.
Mayor: The fire code prohibits those who are stand and blocking
doors and fire exits or the Hall.
Mayor: Thank you, the Sign in Book is for those who wish to
address the Governing Body. Miss Barney will call the names as
they appear on the Sign in Book, you will come up to the podium
and everyone has up to three (3) minutes to speak.
Upon Individual roll call vote the following were noted present:
Councilmember Vincent Bellino
" Jorge Diaz
" Dennis DiMascio
" Randy Krun
" Susan Naples
" Joseph W. Sitarz
Also noted present was Kathleen M. Barney, Municipal Clerk and
Robert J. Bergen, Borough Attorney.
The meeting was opened with a minute of silent prayer and the
Pledge of Allegiance led by Mayor Daniel J. Reiman.
Mayor: Please make sure your cell phone is on silent.
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STURINr C' The Clerk stated that on January 4, 2010, the 2010 Annual Notice
NEUM NMCE was mailed to The Home News Tribune, The Star Ledger and
posted on the Bulletin Board. It was published in The Home News
Tribune on January 6, 2010 and in The Star Ledger on January 8,
2010.
MNM RE Upon MMS &C by Councilmembers Diaz and Naples and
APPRVAL unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council present the Minutes
of October 7, 2010 were approved and transcribed and engrossed
by the Clerk.
RESHUMM Mayor: Is Rico Rios here? Rios. Perhaps he couldn't find
Rico Rios parking. We have special proclamation or commendation for ivlr.
Rios on behalf of his charitable work. He's a manager at California
Carting, which is located in our industrial section, so we will wait
for him to come in to give him his presentation.
11H I C FCKICN CN Mayor: Public portions on Resolutions /Agenda Items and New
RE90=1\ Business, Miss Barney.
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&BIIN'ESS Mayor: Is there a motion to open to the public?
Councilmember Diaz: So moved..
Councilmember Sitarz: Second.
Mayor: Moved and second, all in favor.
Councilmember Naples: Aye.
Open to Public Upon M1VIS &C by Councilmembers Diaz and Sitarz and
unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council present , the public
portion on Resolutions /Agenda Items and New Business was
opened to the public.
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Municipal Clerk: Ken Freeman.
Mayor: Ken did you sign in?
Ken Freeman: Yes.
Mayor: Okay you have three (3) minutes.
Ken Freeman: Mayor, Council, I stand here before you as a
taxpayer of this town. I am concerned about you Mayor, this
Council, using our tax money to fund your personal vendettas
against people in this town. I ask you now, do we have a total of
legal fees right now to T.J. Kaminsky's suspension? We have a
total of fees for legals.
Mayor: I'm gonna....
Ken Freeman: No wait.
Mayor: I am going to give you your three (3) minutes and then
we..........
Ken Freeman: (inaudible) I'll ask you a question (inaudible).
Mayor: That's not the way this works Ken. You got three (3)
minutes and then we'll respond. So you've got your three (3)
minutes. If you want me to talk while you do it is going to eat up
your three (3) minutes.
Ken Freeman: That's fine. That's fine.
Mayor: No we don't have....... one talker at a time.
Ken Freeman: Okay.
Mayor: Do we have a total of legal fees at the moment, no, not on
hand. You have been putting in OPRA Requests, as you know,
through out the year, you are welcome to do that. At a Council
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Kai FYeam Cont. Meeting we wouldn't necessarily have the legal fees on a particular
item .
Ken Freeman: But you put a certain amount aside for the legal
fees in this case.
Mayor: No, there's no money set aside for an individual case, per
say, there's money budgeted throughout the year in the legal
budget. Obviously you can never take into account what happens
on a year to year basis.
Ken Freeman: So in this case you have T.J. Kaminsky that is
suspended, with pay, for approximately two (2) months.
Mayor: Well, I can't discuss specifics of a personnel matter but I
can say that there are legal fees that are throughout the year,
Genova Burns is one of the law firms that you would be
referencing. They handle a lot of Civil Service matters for the
municipality and many other municipalities, but there's no specific
amount on this case.
Ken Freeman: So my point is here that we have T.J. sitting home
collecting a pay check for approximately two (2) months. He is
back to work now, his case is still ongoing, so my question to you
is Mayor, can you end this right now, end this litigation and lets
take this black cloud that's hanging over this town for the last two
(2) or three (3) years. Can you end this?
Mayor: Can I end this, no I can't.
Ken Freeman: Can you end this?
Mayor: It can't be. I just expressed that to you. You have a
pending matter that is being handled by an independent Hearing
Officer and not all the witnesses have been called as of yet. The
facts have yet to be completely resolved, and the item, the case
has yet to be resolved, so, until that is completed by the Hearing
Officer and until the Hearing Officer makes his determination this
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is an ongoing proceeding and I can't really get in and as you know KEn Fremm, Conti;
I can't get into the details of it because it is a pending legal issue.
Ken Freeman: Did you sign a complaint against T.J. ?
Mayor: Did I sign a complaint, no.
Ken Freeman: Yea, so it was the Chief of Police that basically
signed a complaint, is that how it works?
Mayor: It's a pending matter. I can't discuss anything and you
know that.
Ken Freeman; Okay.
Mayor: Now the PBA has taken it upon themselves to share certain
information with the public and the press and I'd hope that they
would share all the information that they had, including any and all
the charges. I can't do that and the City can't do that but certainly
they can.
Ken Freeman: Mayor this isn't the first case. I mean if I go
back .... I'll put an OPRA in.....but this isn't the first case where
you put off arbitration cases shoved them off to your law firm and
there were slam dunks for the PBA that were settled, there were
slam dunks, they never should have went into arbitration Why
can't you settle them just man to man. (Inaudible).
Mayor: A lot of cases.........
Ken Freeman: (Inaudible).
Mayor: Mr. Freeman if you are going to ask me a question you are
going to allow me to respond. A lot of the cases were resolved with
regard to issues and grievances. Some items get resolved, some
items don't. I'll tell you this the city has never filed.....the city has
never filed for arbitration, we've never filed for PERC, so it has
never been the municipality that's filed those complaints to go to
the next level. And there have been instances, time, next speaker.
Rrtin nirray Municipal Clerk: Martin Murray.
Mayor: Martin Murray, is there a Martin Murray? Next speaker.
Hd-ael Pellino Municipal Clerk: Michael Pellino.
Mayor: Michael Pellino. Next speaker.
hHkn Kxhm Municipal Clerk: Mike Kuchma.
Mayor: Speak louder please ......louder.
Municipal Clerk: Mike Kuchma.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Jen Rerrla Municipal Clerk: Jen Renda,
Mayor: Jen Renda, Jen Renda.
Unidentified Person: Pass on that.
Mayor: There is no passing on that, this is not a Parliamentary
System. Next one that wants to say that will be removed, Captain.
This is not a circus gentlemen. Next speaker.
Iry Rcbren Municipal Clerk: h•v Kobren.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Rita Parch Municipal Clerk: Rita Renda.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Patrick Colligan Municipal Clerk: Patrick Colligan.
Patrick Colligan: My name if Pat Colligan, I'm a executive board
member of the State PBA. I a Chairman of the
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Middlesex/Somerset County Conference. On September 29 Patrick Colligan
President Leader sent everybody, Mr. Mayor, the Council, a letter. Cont:
I respect Mr. Bergen's position as an attorney, but this is such a
clear and succinct law, I hope it doesn't require an attorney to read
it or translate it for you. I am going to read the essence of the letter,
"Special Law Enforcement Officer being employed only to assist
in the local law enforcement unit but may not employed to replace
or substitute full time regular police officers ". I hope that it didn't
have to pay the attorney to get a translation of that law. That law is
clear and concise as it can possibly be and it is gonna to be a law
suit for the Borough of Carteret. I cannot believe you are
embarrassing your police agency by hiring part -time. Mr•. Mayor,
you took the Oat of Office, I am going to read the Oath of Office,
it says, "I will support the Constitution of the United States." I'm
not going to even ask you the question, I'm just wondering at some
point do you think that maybe the First Amendment is a part of the
Constitution of the United States and you can't take a First
Amendment right of a police officer away. When I put my hand on
the bible and swore to uphold the laws of this state every single
officer did not give tip the First Amendment right to free speech. It
is an unbelievable egregious charge against this officer.
Everybody sitting here should be embarrassed by the charge that
that officer is facing. As far as the comment about the PBA talking
to the public, Mayor Reiman I read the paper, I read your
comments. I am wondering why the Mayor of a Borough is
commenting on a police investigation, an Internal Affairs Case.
The Chief of Police, I don't think he is here, I haven't seen him. I
think it is important that the Chief of Police and the Council here
know that under 40A:14 -118, and I am going to read it so it is
clear, it specifically entails the power of the Chief of Police. I am
going to read it for him. Again I hope this may insight for me and
it's clear and concise or maybe Mr. Bergen can give us a
definition. "The Chief shall provide that the Chief of Police shall
be the head of the Police Force and be directly responsible to the
Appropriate Authority for the efficiency and routine day to day
operations there o£ ". At some point the Chief of Police has lost
his rights and privileges under Title 40A. They've been given them
to the Mayor. I hope that you are gonna review this case. I hope
that in Executive Session you are going to realize what has
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Patrick toLtigan Cent: happened here, the embarrassment, besides the embarrassment
how much it is going to cost the Borough. Besides what it has cost
already what's keeping this charade going is gonna cost the
Borough.
Mayor: Thank you. Time. Before we call the next speaker
Gentlemen in the back you will have to grab a seat. You can't
block the fire exit or the lane. Go ahead, time, next.
Mark M2ssiwr Municipal Clerk: Mark Messinger.
Mark Messinger: I am also a member of the State PBA Executive
Board and I have a question for the follow -up on the colleagues.
Who has the Appropriate Authority in this (inaudible).
Mayor: Under the Borough form here, under our resolutions and
ordinances the Mayor serves as the Appropriate Authority.
Mark Messingor: Just wanted to know. Now back to the what also
what he was saying �ou're being quoted in the newspapers. The
Star Ledger on the 8 of October and the Home News Tribune on
the 6 °i of October. You stated that the charges against Officer
Kaminsky stemmed from egregious, I like that word,
(inaudible)I'm here, conduct that took place while the officer was
off duty and no way were any actions taken while on -duty or in
uniform. You also say that it's one part of the puzzle but it is not
the whole issue. How did we come to know about his comments
and whether they were on -duty or off -duty comments?
Mayor: Pending litigation, pending matter, I can't discuss, you
know that.
Mark Messinger: Let me ask you this , as an (inaudible) taken,
would it had made matters worse if the comments that he made
were made on duty?
Mayor: I'm not going to make comments about hypotheticals .
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Mark Messingor: You've made enough comments to the
newspapers.
Mayor: I've responded to press releases that were issued.
Mark Messingor: Thanks.
Municipal Clerk: Louis Muzyka:
Mayor: Louie Muzyka:
Louis Muzyka: I have something to read from the President of the
SOA it's in regards to an Open List on Lieutenants. I believe that
the Council have a copy of this already. Is that correct? Is that
correct?
Municipal Clerk: I gave it to Councilman Sitarz and the Mayor.
Louis Muzyka:: Did all the Councilmembers get a copy of it?
Mayor: Not yet, it just came in late this afternoon.
Louis Muzyka: I'll read it to you.
"Dear Mayor Reiman:
This is from Mets Schiro.
This firm represents the Carteret Superior Officers Association. It
has recently come to our attention that Lieutenant David Csimbok
retired on September 1, 2010, and his position has remained vacant.
As a result, sergeants are required to perform the duties of a
lieutenant. Specifically, Sergeant Ciarkowski must perform all the
duties of a lieutenant from 5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. each day. At 9:00
p.m., Sergeant Ciarkowski is relieved of command by another
Sergeant, who performs the duties of a lieutenant until a sworn
lieutenant reports for duty in the morning.
Mark M2ssirgor Cent:
Laris M)zyka
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Louis Mrzyka Cent: It is our understanding that there is a current Civil Service
promotional list for the lieutenant position. Whereas please
promote a sergeant pursuant to the current active list. Your failure
to do so may force us to take action to protect our client's rights.
Please inform us of your decision by November 1, 2010. If you
have not responded by that date, we will immediately request a
desk audit from the Civil Service Commission.'
My question to you is how do we justify leaving a position open
from that time till now and wasting more money paying overtime?
We're paid overtime whenever someone is out for them to fill that
position.
Mayor: You're not paying overtime on a Lieutenant's position.
Louis Muzyka:: It's just another waste of taxpayers money again
and is there any......... do you plan on filling that position? Are
you going to change the table of organizations again.
Mayor: It is something that this Council and this Governing Body
would have to take into consideration, certainly we've had
sergeants and lieutenants retire but that's a management
prerogative, changing the table the organizational structure, as well
as the number of sergeants and lieutenants to the extent that legal
counsel thinks it is not and wants to discuss it further, again I
haven't seen the letter, I understand it came it late this afternoon or
this evening.
Louis Muzyka: To my understanding this Council doesn't know
there was an opening. Well, how could that be, how could we have
a governing portion that doesn't even know that position is open.
Mayor: Who doesn't know there was a lieutenant that retired?
Louis Muzyka: I am not going to stand here to you, I'm not going
to protect the names due to retaliation on certain people who
(inaudible). That all I have to say.
Mmicipal Clerk: Dana Mrzyka.
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Darin Muzyka: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Wayne Hundemann.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Phil Esposito.
Phil Esposito, I pass.
Municipal Clerk: Jason Hanes.
Jason Hanes: Pass.
Municipal Clerk: Keith Cassens.
Keith Cassens: Pass.
Municipal Clerk: The one after him I can't get that at all, I don't
know if you can.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Doug Greenberg.
Doug Greenberg: Inaudible.
Municipal Clerk: There is another one I can't understand, so.
Municipal Clerk: Michael Kazio.
Michael Kazio: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Chris Wisniewski.
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Chris Wisniewski: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Joseph Sias
Municipal Clerk: Joseph Sles.
Joseph Sles: Pass.
Richard Chartier
Municipal Clerk: Richard Chartier.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Stever Pixrhak
Municipal Clerk: Steven Pinchak.
Steven Pinchak: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Kathy Pir&&
Municipal Clerk: Kathy Pinchak.
Kathy Pinchak: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
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Municipal Clerk: Stephanie Pinchak.
Stephanie Pinchak: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
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Municipal Clerk: Paul Weaver.
Paul Weaver: Pass.
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Municipal Clerk: John Manning.
Mayor: Next speaker.
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Municipal Clerk: Sal Renda.
Sal Renda: Just a quick thing, the Attorney General Guidelines say
that all officers are allowed to have Disciplinary Hearings open to
the public, even the Carteret Rules. Internal investigations say that
we wanted to have an Open Hearing, you guys did not, so all the
facts would have been heard by everyone and everyone could have
made their own decision. I want an answer to the question. I asked
a question, I want the answer.
Mayor: I don't have that in front of me but I understand that Mets
Schiro and Genova Burns resolved that issue, that it cannot be, but
go ahead.
Sal Renda: Like said, do I get extra time to talk?
Mayor: No you don't, but, go ahead.
Sal Renda: Then please shut up.
Mayor: Out of order. Out of order.
Sal Renda: I'm trying to talk.
Mayor: Out of order.
Sal Renda: Okay, I'm trying to talk to you.
Mayor: Next time like that you are going to sit down. I'm going to
give you the respect that you deserve. I expect whether or not for
me but for this office.
Sal Renda: And I'm entitled to that, correct, so don't interrupt me
while I'm talking. Don't interrupt me while I'm talking. You said
you're not allowed to dismiss any charges but there was accident
by Detective Krowl on 8/4/09, from a letter November 16, 2009,
you the Appropriate Authority advising the Chief of Police that all
disciplinary charges are dismissed. You just said now, before, you
can't dismiss the charges but......
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Sal gEnda Cont: Mayor: You have a pending matter on this right now that I can't
discuss is what I said, You have pending charges..........
Sal Renda: Right, pending charges. Pending charges were filed on
8/4/09, you dismissed him while the charges were still pending.
Mayor: and a pending hearing. There's a hearing that has already
been started, Mr. Renda, you are aware of that?
Sal Renda: Yes, I am.
Mayor: Testimony has already been given so you have an
independent Hearing Officer.
Sal Renda: So there is no testimony, no hearing being (inaudible)
at that tune.
Mayor: I can't continent relative to those charges.
Sal Renda: I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about William
Krowl's charges.
Mayor: I don't know how you have possession of internal
documents ..........
Sal Renda: They're not internal documents.
Mayor: relative to someones personnel file but I can't comment on
that. You know that, you know that.
Sal Renda: The case is over and done with.
Mayor: You know that,
Sal Renda: The case is over and done with.
Mayor: And he was an employee of the city and I can't
discuss......
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Sal Renda: By the way the Chief hung that up on the bulletin Sal Re da Cont:
board....
Mayor: and I can't discuss that.
Sal Renda: for all of us to see.
Mayor: If the Chief hung that up then I will have to address that
with him., but.....
Sal Renda: If you need a copy I will gladly give it to you.
Mayor: I would love to see it.
Sal Renda: I will gladly give it. Now let me go back to the schools.
We have the Board of Ed telling as that $100,000.00 was put aside
for us to work security. Now you are luring un- employed.....
excuse me..... non -union people to do our job. Why is that?
Mayor: We have hired special two (2) officers, which under state
law we are allowed to do.
Sal Renda: Really,
Mayor: Yes.
Sal Renda: Title 48 says that too, that you can hire them to do our
jobs?
Mayor: They are not doing your jobs.
Sal Renda: Oh they're not, well they're not, well hold on, last
year there was cops in the High School and the Middle School.
Mayor: If you are going to ask a question I will answer it , if you
want to just make a statement you can do that, that's fine.
Sal Renda: I'll make a statement.
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Sal Renda Cent: Mayor: You (inaudible) talk.
Sal Renda:I tried that before you still interrupted me.
Mayor: Finish it, finish it, finish it.
Sal Renda: I don't know, what's the forum here to finish? What's
ever is easiest to do.
Mayor: The forum is you have the opportunity for three (3)
minutes...
Sal Renda: That's exactly.........
Mayor: under the law you don't get to cross - examine........
Sal Renda: (Inaudible).
Mayor: you don't get to dross examine the Mayor and Council.....
Sal Renda: I wanted to speak. I didn't ask a question, I wanted to
speak.
Mayor: so you had the opportunity to do that ......
Sal Renda: You're a joke.
Mayor: That's it you're done. Next speaker.
Jcixi Grardw Municipal Clerk: John Gramahan.
Mayor: John. Next speaker.
Pat 13Lr-kelav Municipal Clerk: Pat Buckelew.
Pat Buckelew: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
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Municipal Clerk: Jonathan De Felice. Jonad 1e Felice
Jonathan De Felice: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Elaine Muzuka. Elaim Mazulka
Elaine Muzuka: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Pat, she commented she could not read whatever
this, G.... A... L.... I, something .......
Pat: Inaudible.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Billo, B ... I ... L ... L ... A..S, last name.
The word "pass" was commmented.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Mark Papi. Mark Papi
Mark Papi: Mr. Mayor and Council I just want to say that I am a
member of the New Jersey State PBA Executive Office and my
father was born and raised in Carteret, my uncle was a retired
police officer, Lieutenant in Carteret and this is a disgrace to see
what's going on here. I am embarrassed to say my family is from
Carteret.
Municipal Clerk: Paul Lucarelli. Paul i,rarell;
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Allan McDermit.
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Allan NH)e nd t Allan McDermit: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Matt Failace.
%tt Failace Matt Failace: My name is Matt Failace, I am a police officer and a
taxpayer duly, well I can't say I'm happy about that right now, I
want to bring up just a couple of points, first of all it's blatantly
obvious to the police officers and the people that support the PBA
in this town , that because of actions that a couple of officers have
done, by the day to day operations of just their jobs, there is no
qualified officers in the schools right now. There is nobody and let
me tell you I work days and I patrol and I have almost come to the
point on my four (4) days off I am going to start filming the road
work that is going on with no officers. Now, flag men is going to
be your answer and I understand that fully, but, there is no flag. I
have two (2) cones in the trunk of my car to prove it when I had to
go through them for a call the other day that somebody actively
breaking into a house. It's unsafe. Completely unacceptable,
completely unsafe. The only question I do have for you is are the
people that are in the schools right now qualified in active shooter
training , that we have to get every year, that Detective Kopin, who
is a very good gainer, goes through the hallways of the school and
we respond on Columbine type incident. I did the training.
Mayor: That I don't have in front of me, I don't know. I do know
that they are certified law enforcement officers who were just
recently laid off. Many of them have more experience than officers
that are in our department in terms of the years of service. As the
state PBA is aware, because of my letter to Mr. Weiner, it's our
intent to hire these officers as Class II Specials for a period of time
in anticipation of retirements next year where I plan on making
these permanent full -time officers. So, we took the opportunity to
hire laid off PBA members from around the state to give them an
opportunity to work and to learn about the Borough and also to
give us the opportunity to evaluate them.
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Matt Failace: I don't want to cut you off but, so the answer is you Platt Failxe Cont:
don't know if they are trained or not.
Mayor: They have all the training that is required under the law
and they have graduated the Police Academy.
Matt Failace: Under the law, absolutely, but does it make sense to
have a school officer to be trained in active shooter in Carteret
Schools. In Carteret Schools , it makes sense and just something to
look into and the other thing I just want to add to the end of this is
with all this back and forth and what's going on the only people
that are suffering are the citizens of Carteret. The safety, it's taken
a back seat to this would B, S.
Mayor: You are suggesting that safety has taken a back seat?
Matt Failace: Oh absolutely, Safety has definitely taken a back
seat........
Mayor: In terms of what?
Matt Failace: without a doubt. Without a doubt because if I get in
my patrol car I have to worry about who's watching me do my job.
What am I doing now. Where are you? Are you justifying where
you're at.. I don't want go get like (inaudible) the fact that I was in
military for five (5) years. I'm an enduring freedom veteran, but,
like you said about the constitution, this is not what I signed up for,
what's going on in this town.
Municipal Clerk: Ashley and Donna Toth. Ashley a d Qxm Toth
Ashley and Donna Toth: Pass.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Tom Kaminsky. Tan Katdmky
Tom Kaminsky: Mayor and Council.
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Ton KaTdmky Cant:
Mayor: How are you sir?
Tom Kaminsky: I'm Mr. Kaminsky. T.J. is my son. I just want to
say he is a very honest person, known throughout this town and
everything else. What he does is very honest, but, I have a couple
of questions. Who signed the complaint against my son and for
what reason?
Mayor: As you know Mr. Kaminsky it's an ongoing personnel
matter. As you know charges were filed. I believe that they have
passed out copies of them, I don't know if they have or haven't,
but, there is an ongoing pending personnel matter and
unfortunately I can't discuss that and the Council can't discuss that
in public.
Tom Kaminsky: What type of personnel matter?
Mayor: There were charges that were filed against an individual
and any time there is charges filed against any individuals,
employees of the city or government, they're held and they hold
personnel hearings or in this case a disciplinary hearing.
Tom Kaminsky: Oh, cause you go to the Carteret Forum and you
find out all these things he said against Reverend Chubenko, is that
true?
Mayor: I can't comment as to what he did or didn't say, but, I'm
sure you have copies of it and if not the PBA can provide to you.
Tom Kaminsky: Well, it's on the Carteret Forum. Mr. Sitarz did
you pay your ticket yet?
Councilmember Sitarz: Yes I did.
Tom Kaminsky: (Inaudible) One more question, Mr. Bellino,
where's Mr. Bellino.
Councilmember Bellino: Right here.
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Tom Kaminsky: This said about your son too, how come he is not
up on charges right now?
Mayor: That's a personnel matter, which is currently under
investigation.
Toni Kaminsky: Well, I just want to say one more thing, all these
things can be found out on the Carteret Forum, so it is really an
embarrassment to this town and everything else. I think this is a
three (3) ring circus over here, that's what I have to say.
Mayor: Thank you. Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Al Walsh.
Mayor: Hold on al.
Councilmember Bellino: In reference to Mr. Kaminsky. My son
is a PBA member as well. I hope he gets the same support that you
people out there would give him instead of beating him down.
That's all I have to say.
Mayor: Okay Mr. Walsh.
Al Walsh: I am a concerned citizen, and I am concerned about our
police officers in this town that they should be subjected to
humiliation for political purposes. That is wrong. if they did
something wrong within their job then you take action, but for
political purposes no action should ever be..........
Mayor: Well certainly there's here for political purposes Mr.
Walsh, but to the extent that you have...... to the extent that you
have a pending, a pending hearing........
Al Walsh: According to the newspaper articles that I have read it
appears to be political. So (inaudible), so that's what it indicates,
political, but, with the amount of crime that we have in this town,
the amount of break -ins, okay, the drug trade it is almost
unbelievable from what I hear from people throughout the town.
Tan ltmrinsky Cent:
Al Walsh
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Al 1 " - -' Cont: Now, unless you and the honored Councilmembers, take action
and say to our police officers and give them the tools to correct this
crime that is going on in this town, to get rid of the gangs that are
running things in certain parts of town and for the murders that are
taking place and then take the action and get these criminals back
in the jail and do something and get them off the streets of
Carteret. Carteret was a nice clean little town, okay, until we
decided to build multiple housing. There hasn't been a single
family house built in I don't know how long, but, multiple family
houses, yes. Lets try to do something about it. Lets try to correct
these issues. Lets build our Police Department and make it a good
Police Department without harassment.
Mayor: Next speaker.
Municipal Clerk: Sand Radwan Eid.
Saad Red un Eid Saad Radwan Eid: Saad Radwan Eid, 124 Lincoln Avenue,
Carteret, New Jersey. Mr. Mayor, ladies and gentlemen,
Councilmembers, I have (inaudible) problem. I have a question for
you Mr. Mayor and also for the six (6) Councilmembers today. I
say this is wrong, then I have a statement. I am allowed to
(inaudible).
Mayor: You are allowed to make a statement. Under the State
Law you're allowed time at a public meeting You don't necessarily
get to interrogate the Mayor and Council, but, you're welcome to
read your question, if a Councihmember wants to answer it they're
allowed to, they are not obligated to. It's not a give or take under
New Jersey Law, but go ahead.
Saad Radwan Eid: Okay, my question to you and ah, are you a
member of the Mason Club in Carteret?
Mayor: Am I a member of the Masonic Club?
Saad Radwan Eid: Mason Club. We know the president of the
Mason Club is Father Chubenko. Are you a member of the Mason
Club?
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Mayor: Father Chubenko is not a president of the Mason's Club. Saad Fa lm m Fd
Cant:
Saud Radwan Eid: ; Okay, what you call it, are you a member or
not?
Mayor: I happen to be am member of the Craftsman's Club, yes.
Sand Radwan Eid: Correct.
Mayor: Which is a non -profit charitable organization.
Sand Radwan Eid: Including (inaudible).too
Mayor: Yes.
Sand Radwan Eid: How many members of this Council members
of the Mason Club?
Mayor: The Councihnembers are and here again, there is no
interrogation here Sand, you can make a statement.
Saad Radwan Eid: My statement is, as an American citizen I have
made my legal right and responsibility to become an American,
therefore, I have a responsibility to protect the constitution of the
United States of America, as an American citizen. I have swear on
God when I receive my citizenship. I also, I have a right to
exercise my right to freedom of speech and freedom to petition
the political government and all the entire government of the
United States of America as an American citizen. I also publicly
support or oppose elected officials. I'm getting elected officials
opinion on the issues. That's why I arrive from the constitution
ladies and gentlemen. My statement to you Mr. Mayor is you have
become very vindictive against individuals to who oppose your
policy in Carteret. Before I go on I want to remind the public this
is a recorded meeting , public town meeting, has nothing to do with
any legal action I have took against the Borough Council of
Carteret. My case has been aggrieved with the Borough of
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Saad Fa1cm Eid Carteret, has nothing to do with it cannot be even used and just one
Copt: (1) more thing, this message was (inaudible).
Mayor: It cannot be used and we can't comment on any pending
matters you have.
Saad Radwan Eid: I am here as an American citizen.
Mayor: We can't comment on any pending matters you have.
Saad Radwan Eid: Let me continue.
Mayor: Time.
Saad Radwan Eid: You have to let me continue.
Mayor: Time. Next. Time.
Saad Radwan Eid: I have a right to continue.
Mayor: Saad you know this time.
Saad Radwan Eid: The public say, "give my time away ".
Mayor: Next speaker.
Saad Radwan Eid: No, I have a right to finish.
Mayor: Saad, Saud, Saad, Saad, you are aware of the time
restraints.
Saud Radwan Eid: You have become a liar and you have
become..........
Mayor: Motion to adjourn... close to the public.
Saad Radwan Eid: you have become a liar and you have become
vindictive.
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Mayor: Motion to go into public......
Sand Radwan Eid:: and have become (inaudible).
Mayor: Second,
Councilmember Naples: Second.
Mayor: All in favor.
Saad Radwan Eid: Yelled inaudibly.
Mayor: Closed to the public.
Saad Rack n Eid
Upon iv MS &C by Councilmembers (inaudible due to extremely
loud yelling in background from Mr Eid) and Naples and hEKIUU afSED
unanimous affmnative vote of the full Council present, the meeting 20 IFLBUC
was closed to the public.
Sand Radwan Eig: Yelled inaudibly.
Mayor: Resolutions.
Saad Radwan Eid: You will be indicted.
Mayor: Resolutions number H1, 10- 249.....
Saad Radwan Eid: You will be indicted, you will be indicted.
Mayor: that H5, 10 -253.
Saad Radwan Eid: Yelled inaudibly.
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Mayor: Resolutions I have Resolutions #10 -249 to Resolutions
#10 -253 is there a motion on the Consent Agenda.
Resolutions #10 -249 thru #10 -253 were introduced by the Mayor
and referred to the Council for action.
RE5YIIIZQV #10 -249 Upon MMS &C by Councilnembers Sitarz and Diaz
0 1011 WFI i i
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RESOLUTION #10 -249
"DIRECTING THE ISSUANCE OF VARIOUS RAFFLE
LICENSES"
RF UITCN #10 -250
CRES= RkTICAPPM PAR M%
RESOLUTION #10 -250
SPACE FORS
AVFNJE "
"CREATING HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACE FOR 12
HERMArNN AVENUE"
RFrOL aN #10 -251
%-. OF N"MUC ZO'II1E
RESOLUTION #10 -251
CAIZIDtII' RMII G
pE�HORgENF GYRRATIM
"AWARD OF FUNDING TO THE CARTERET HOUSING
(QWM) A 501 C3
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (CHADCO) A 501 C3
M' T CnURAZSQV"
NONPROFIT CORPORATION"
RES=CN #10 -252
' nr ml 0 TAY Am /N RESOLUTION #10 -252
SZgER FEE GMTAMOU" "REFUND OF TAX AND /OR SEWER FEE OVERPAYMENTS"
RESOLU11W #10 -253
, PMKESIMTAL SUMCIS -T&1 RESOLUTION #10 -253
AS93- HKIFS, RE: CEll2Ci E "PROFESSIONAL SERVICES -T &M ASSOCIATES, RE:
PARK SN1YC& DESI(2� CHROME PARK IMPROVEMENTS- DESIGN, CONTRACT
OaMACS AD0JSMkTIQV & ADMINISTRATION & NSPECTION SERVICES"
IPiSPECITQV SERVICRS'
Amy were Adopted. Upon individual roll call vote Councihnembers
Bellino, Diaz, DiMascio, Krum, Naples and Sitarz voted in the
Affirmative.
Mayor: Payment of Bills.
AL'DJIIKE
The audience interrupted with loud yelling by people unknown to
the transcriber. The yelling was inaudible.
Mayor: List of all bills properly audited and signed.
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The audience once again interrupted with loud yelling by people ADS
unknown to the transcriber. Much of the yelling was inaudible but
many of the voices were yelling "let him speak."
Mayor: There's nobody else that signed in. Everybody was told
prior to the meeting, as every Council Meeting, you have to sign
in prior to the start of the meeting.
Once again the audience interrupted by people unknown to the
transcriber. The yelling was inaudible.
Councilmember Naples: Did you sign in? You have to sign in.
Mayor: Payment of all bills.
Councilmember Diaz: There's a motion to pay all bills.
Mayor: Is there a second.
Council President Krum: Second.
Mayor: All in favor.
Councilmember Diaz: Aye.
Upon MMS &C by Councilmembers Diaz and Krum all bills PAMW OF BILLS
appearing on the prepared list, properly audited and signed were
ordered to be paid. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers
Bellino, Diaz, DiMascio, Krum, Naples and Sitarz voted in the
Affirmative.
The Clerk stated that she was in receipt of an Application from the APPUCMCW
Carteret Volunteer Fire Co. #1 -New members, Eric Kjems, II and
Christian Steingraber. Upon MMS &C by Councilmembers Diaz
and Naples and unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council
present they were ordered to be approved.
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RUCM Treasurer — Certificate of Determination and Award.
Upon MMS &C by Councilmembers Diaz and Sitarz and
unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council present, all Reports
were ordered to be received and placed on file.
(U+E = COMMITTEES:
BUILDINGS & GROUNDS: Committee Chairperson Naples
reported seasonal operations and getting ready, winding down for
the summer, getting everything ready for the winter and progress
in that department.
FINANCE & ADMINISTRATION: Committee Chairperson Diaz
reported Progress.
FIRE & DOMESTIC PREPAREDNESS: Committee Chairperson
Krum reported progress in the Fire Department.
PARKS, RECREATION & PUBLIC PROPERTY- Committee
Chairperson Bellino reported Progress.
POLICE — Committee Chairperson Sitarz reported Progress.
PUBLIC WORKS- Committee Chairperson DiMascio reported
Progress.
BOARD OF EDUCATION: Committee Chairperson Naples
reported progress and said she had some information about the
grant and she will report that at the next meeting when she gets it
more concise from the building principle.
Mayor: Did Mr. Rios show tip? Ricco Rios. He may not of been
able to make it in.
After no further discussion, upon MMS &C by Councilmembers ADJOLME)
Diaz and Sitarz and unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council
present, the meeting was Adjourned at approximately 6:36 P.M.
KATHLEEN M. BARNEY, MMC
Municipal Clerk
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