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PARKING COMMISSION
Minutes of Special Meeting
October 28, 1965
1. CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Kettle called to order the Special Meeting
of the Parking Commission at 3:04 P.M. at City Hall, 5938 North
Kauffman Avenue,for the purpose of determining regulations con-
trolling use of parking lots within the Parking Districts.
2. The Chairman opened the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag.
3 ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Commissioners: Martin, Merritt, Nunamaker,
Saunders, Kettle
ABSENT: Commissioners: None
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager, Karl Koski
Traffic Engineer, George Envall
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Martin moved to approve the
minutes of the regular meeting of August 11, 1965; seconded by
Commissioner Saunders and carried.
5. SPECIAL BUSINESS: Commissioner Nunamaker suggested placing a temp
porary time limit on parking lots within the Parking Districts as
long as they will be available with temporary improvements, and he
suggested a two hour parking limit on all lots except the lot be-
hind the Alpha Beta Market which he suggested leaving as all day
parking. In response to the Commission's question as to when these
temporary lots would be ready, City Manager Koski stated that he
expected to have the lots in operation prior to Thanksgiving.
Commissioner Nunamaker also suggested that Primrose Avenue, north
of Las Tunas, be made two hour parking up to the public parking
lot, adding that after July of 1966 when the parking lots are
completed, the Commission could determine regular time parking
for the various parking areas. Commissioner Saunders asked which
new areas are going to be involved. The City Manager indicated
the specific lots involved on the Parking District exhibit map.
There was discussion regarding placing the two hour parking on
Primrose Avenue. Traffic Engineer Envall pointed out that there
is two hour time limits from Las Tunas north to the alley on
Primrose, but that a recent postcard check indicated that the
majority of residents on the street indicated they did not wish
two hour parking limits on the rest of the street. Commissioner
Nunamaker felt that there was a need for time limit parking on the
street. Mr. Envall stated he will make a license plate check of
the cars parking on Primrose Avenue to ascertain if these are
employees or residents, adding that all streets leading into the
center of the business district should then have two hour parking
within one half block.
Discussion led to the problem of employee parking within the City.
Mr. Envall pointed out that when employees of business are re-
stricted from using parking lots, then they use the streets.
When two hour time limit parking is posted on the side streets,
then they move to another street where the problem begins anew.
Commissioner Nunamaker stated that the parking lots were purchased
for turnover and that when all lots are completed and permanent,
all lots next to businesses should have two hour parking limits.
Engineer Envall suggested that some portions of lots should have
shorter parking time limits rather than just the two hour time
limit. Commissioner Nunamaker asked for a Staff study on costs of
patrolling lots in order to determine what charge could be made
for selling parking permits for all day parking when this becomes
necessary.
Commissioner Nunamaker then toned to have the Tr.cfFic Commission
make a license plate check of cars parked on the streets leading
into the business district in the area from Kauffman to Cloverly
Avenue and bounded by Woodruff and Workman, to ascertain the per-
iod of time cars are parked, and if they are employees of business,
and to study the possibility of placing two hour parking restric-
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tions for one half block beyond the alley or commercial frontages
on said streets. Seconded by Commissioner Martin and carried.
The City Manager asked what the decision was of the Commission re-
garding the other lots in the Parking Districts as far as recommen-
dations as to type of signing. For the purpose of identifying
these lots, it was decided to use letters on the Parking District
exhibit map. Commissioner Nunamaker moved to recommend that the
six parking lots be limited to two hour parking from the hours of
9:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M., Sundays and Holidays excepted. Seconded
by Commissioner Saunders and carried. Lots identified are as
follows;
Parking District #1 - The two adjoining lots south of and adjacent
to the alley South of Las Tunas and between Cloverly and Primrose
Avenues (A and B); the lot south of and adjacent to the alley
facing Primrose Avenue (C -2); the five lots south of and adjacent
to the alley facing Temple City Boulevard (0); the lot south of
and adjacent to the alley facing Camellia (E).
?arking District #3 - The lot north of and adjacent to the alley
North of Las Tunas and facing Temple City Boulevard (G).
Mr. Envall then asked if the $1.00 fine for parking over time limit
posted, would be the same for the off - street lots as it is for on-
street violations. The City Manager replied that there is no other
way to handle it now, although a chance may be forthcoming.
Commissioner Merritt asked if the money derived from fines on the
parking lots would go to the Parking District, to which Mr. Envall
answered that the Parking District does not pay for enforcement,
therefore the monies would go to the City.
City Manager Koski advised the Commission that the Courts have
asked the City to reconsider the $1.00 fine as it is out of context
with every other city, $2.00 being the standard fine. He informed
them that the Staff is working on this and that he would bring this
before the Council for consideration. Commissioner Merritt asked
if traffic enforcement is paying for itself, to which the City
Manager answered that it was not and adding that the $2.00 fine
would be in line with other cities.
Commissioner Merritt inquired when demolition work would commence
on District #1. Mr. Koski replied that it would begin possibly
the following week, and he outlined the schedule. Commissioner
Saunders asked if these lots are going to be temporarily black -
topped until the lighting is put in. Mr. Koski indicated in the
affirmative, adding that they will be single lined, with wheel
blocks, and with entrance and exit signs. Commissioners Saunders
then suggested that it would be prudent to have a notice in the
newspapers so that people are aware that this is temporary until
utilities are installed underground and permanent asphalt applied.
The City Manager stated that this could be in the Chamber newsletter
so that the merchants will be informed.
Mr. Koski apprised the Commission that since their last meeting,
details of installation of the underground facilities have been
worked out with the major utility companies, and that after several
discussions and re- evaluations on the part of the telephone compary,
they were able to work all details for the mall on the south side
of Las Tunas. Work will begin right after the first of next year.
The decision was made not to begin in December because of conflict
with business operations during the Holidays.
Commissioner Nunamaker referred to the Parking District Exhibit map
and made note that the Commission failed to consider the parking
lot that the City is leasing in rogard to time limit parking, and
he directed attention to the second lot south of the alley facing
Primrose Avenue on the map. He then amended his motion as follows:
" That the six parking lots, including the second lot south of the
alley facing Primrose Avenue, be restricted to two hour parking
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