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From: Chris O'Hare <chrisoharegulfstream@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:18 PM
To: Bill Thrasher; Rita Taylor; Renee Basel
Subject: Public record Request - JF comm. about signs on AM / NOB
Attachments: Gmail - Fwd_ Code enforcement question about sign ordinance part 1 of 3.pdf
Dear Custodian of Records,
I request to inspect certain public records in the custody of the Town of Gulf Stream or in the custody of its agents or associated
entities.
While I am not statutorily obligated to explain why I want to inspect these records, I tell you it is for the
purpose of informing myself of the historic and current workings of the Town of Gulf Stream and its
associated entities, vendors, consultants, advisers, contractors and agents. The records I wish to
inspect may also be material to current, anticipated or presently unforeseen legal action. In addition,
inspection of these records may be essential to my ability to make informed comments in an
upcoming public hearing. The production of any and all responsive records is therefore urgent and
must be acted upon in compliance with Florida Statutes and established case law as soon as
possible.
Before making this public record request, I first searched online and in the public records portion of
your agency's website hoping I could locate the public records I seek without having to write you
directly. Unfortunately I cannot find the records I wish to inspect. Therefore I am writing you now and
requesting you make every effort as required by law to produce these public records without delay.
I make this request pursuant to Article 1, Section 24 of the Florida Constitution and Chapter 119 of
the Florida Statutes. I hereby reserve all rights granted to me under the Florida
Constitution and Florida Statutes.
I ask that you take the following action:
• Read this entire request carefully and respond accordingly.
• If you are not the custodian of the public records described herein please determine who that person is and
notify me immediately in order that I may make this request to the appropriate person without delay.
• Reference Florida Statutes and appropriate case law when responding to this record request.
• Do NOT produce any records other than records responsive to this request.
• Identify by name the person or persons responding to this request if that person is not the Custodian of
Records for your agency as required by 119.070 )(b).
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o f � 1 1 9 . 0 7 ( 4 ) ( a ) 3 . ( d ) F l o r i d a S t a t u e s a n d i f y o u a n t i c i p a t e t h a t a n y r e c o r d s e x i s t , t h e p r o d u c t i o n f o r
i n s p e c t i o n o f w h i c h w i l l r e q u i r e e x t e n s i v e u s e o f i n f o r m a t i o n t e c h n o l o g i e s o r e x t e n s i v e s t a f f t i m e o r
b o t h i n e x c e s s o f 1 5 m i n u t e s , t h e n p l e a s e p r o v i d e t h o s e r e c o r d s t h a t c a n b e p r o d u c e d w i t h i n t h e f i r s t
1 5 m i n u t e s a n d a d v i s e m e o f t h e c o s t y o u a n t i c i p a t e t o b e i n c u r r e d b y y o u r a g e n c y f o r t h e r e m a i n i n g
r e c o r d s p r i o r t o i n c u r r i n g t h i s c o s t . P l e a s e d o n o t i n c u r a n y c o s t s o n m y b e h a l f w i t h o u t f i r s t o b t a i n i n g
m y w r i t t e n a u t h o r i z a t i o n t o p r o c e e d . I f y o u p r o d u c e o n l y a p o r t i o n o f a l l e x i s t i n g r e s p o n s i v e r e c o r d s ,
p l e a s e t e l l m e t h a t y o u r r e s p o n s e i n c l u d e s o n l y a p o r t i o n o f a l l e x i s t i n g r e c o r d s r e s p o n s i v e t o t h i s
r e q u e s t .
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If you anticipate the need to incur any costs that I would be statutorily required to pay in order to
inspect these public records which would exceed $1.00 please notify me in advance of your incurring
that cost with a written estimate of the total cost. Please be sure to itemize any estimates so as to
indicate the total number of pages and/or records, as well as to distinguish the cost of labor and
materials. Again, please do not incur any costs on my behalf without first obtaining my written
authorization to proceed.
A record that does not exist because of its disposition requires the creation of a disposition record. In
all instances where you determine a record does not exist please determine if the record once existed
and in its replacement provide the disposition record for my inspection.
As background to this request I call your attention to my email to you of October 1, 2016
which is attached to this email for your convenience. I have not received a response from
Town Manager Thrasher to this email and therefore will now ask for a response by means of a
public record request.
I request to inspect any public records* of communications in the custody of the Town of Gulf
Stream** including in the custody of the entity that claims to be the Town Attorney for your
agency, namely Jones Foster Johnson & Stubbs P.A., related to signs on State Road Al A,
(also known as North Ocean Boulevard and NOB) in the Town of Gulf Stream. Please do NOT
include in your response any records of communications from me.
*The term public records, as used herein, has the same meaning and scope as the definition of
Public records adopted by the Florida Legislature as Statutes Chapter 119.
**The phrase Town of Gulf Stream when used herein refers to the Town in its entirety and all entities
of the Town including all employees, appointees, officials, assignees, counsel and consultants
including Town Manager, Town Clerk, Town Police Chief, Town Commissioners, Town Mayor, Town
Departments, Town Police Officers, Town Employees, Town Staff Attorney, Town Engineer, the law
firm (Jones Foster Johnston & Stubbs P.A.) that claims to be the Town Attorney including all attorney,
partner and employee members of that firm; the Town Counsel of Sweetapple, Broeker &
Varkus including all attorney, partner and employee members of that firm, the Town Counsel
of Richman Greer, P.A. including all attorney, partner and employee members of that firm and any
other entity associated with the Town and subject to public records law.
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If you do not understand any part of this request or if you need clarification about this request, notify me as
soon as possible so I may further describe or clarify this request. Due to issues of delivery failure and occasional
rejection by your server this email is being sent to multiple recipients to insure prompt delivery.
All responses to this public records request should be made in writing to the following email address:
chrisoharegulfstream@gmail.com
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Chris O'Hare <chrisoharegulfstream@gmaii.com>
Fwd: Code enforcement question about sign ordinance part 1 of 3
Chris O'Hare <chrisoharegulfstream@gmail.com> Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 7:29 PM
To: bthrasher@gulf-stream.org.didtheyreadit.com, Bill Thrasher <bthrasher@gulf-stream.org>
Dear Mr. Thrasher,
I am writing you again to follow up on my earlier communications to you regarding enforcement of the Town's sign
ordinance (one of which is forwarded herein for your reference). I provided a number of photos of apparent violations
around Town. I note many of these apparent violations still exist. I have not heard from you in response to my inquiry so
I am trying again to find out this information.
Please understand that I am not complaining about these apparent violations. Rather I am seeking clarification of your
interpretation of Ordinance 15/01 in regard to enforcement so I may know how to conduct myself in compliance with this
code.
I specifically call your attention to the many signs along State Road A1A also known as North Ocean Boulevard. These
signs don't appear to me to be in compliance with Ord. 15.01? Has some exemption been granted to these sign owners
for this activity?
Mayor Morgan has been quite firm that he won't answer my questions about this matter during public meetings; as you
know he always advises me to direct my questions to you. May I hear from you soon?
Sincerely,
Chris O'Hare
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Chris O'Hare <chrisoharegulfstream@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Town Manager Thrasher,
I am writing you again about the Town's policy of enforcing, or not enforcing, its Sign Ordinance. I have not as yet
received a response from you to my previous emails on the subject. I am hoping you will respond to this one.
Please examine these photos taken today of signs at various locations along North Ocean Blvd in the Town of
Gulf Stream that are attached to this email. Each photo was taken this morning and shows various political
signs, real estate signs and a flag placed within 10 feet of a property line and in many cases placed on public
right-of-way. I refer you also to the many records in the Town's Land File (http://www2.gulf-stream.org/w
eblink/Browse.aspx?dbid=0) which contain the surveys of the properties shown in these photos.
I respectfully ask you, as the Town Manager and the Chief Code Enforcement Officer, what the Town's policy is
in regard to these signs being located on, or immediately adjacent to, the property line or in some instances
on the Town's right-of-way. I also ask what steps the Town intends to take to enforce its Sign Ordinance in
regard to each of these signs and properties. I ask this in order to know what Town regulations I must comply
with and what regulations it is the Town's policy not to enforce.
I personally think all of the signs on all of the properties illustrated in these photos are a reasonable land use and should
be allowed to remain. The Commission, by their legislative actions, apparently disagrees with me. In some instances I
think the property owner faces a real hardship if forced, like others have been, to conform to this code and, if required to
do so, should be granted a variance from this code - if they satisfy the eight standards you previously cited to me that
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are required for variance approval. In the mean time I expect, from your previously aggressive enforcement of this code,
you will treat these property owners equal to the way you have treated other property owners with, If not identical, then
certainly significantly similar land use behavior. I understand enforcement of Town regulations is subject to discretion
based on available funds and/or available manpower. Since both you and Chief Ward have testified that you lack neither
funds nor manpower and since Mayor Morgan has stated in public meetings that he expects ALL regulations to be
enforced, I anticipate some form of response to this email.
THIS EMAIL IS NOT A COMPLAINT. IT IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANOTHER
OFFICIAL LETTER OR SIMILAR TOWN COMMUNICATION TO ANY TOWN RESIDENT NOTIFYING THEM THAT I
AM COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY.
I tried to send all photos in one email but that email was rejected by your server because It was apparently too large. I
am therefore sending you the photos in three emails. This email is part 1 of 3.
May I please hear from you soon?
Sincerely,
Chris O'Hare
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TOWN OF GULF STREAM
PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
Delivered via e-mail
December 13, 2016
Chris O'Hare [mail to: chrisoharegulfstreamAgmail.coml
Re: GS #2429 (JF comm. About signs on A1A/NOB)
I request to inspect any public records* of communications in the custody of the Town
of Gulf Stream** including in the custody of the entity that claims to be the Town
Attorney for your agency, namely Jones Foster Johnson & Stubbs P.A., related to signs
on State Road A1A, (also known as North Ocean Boulevard and NOB) in the Town of
Gulf Stream. Please do NOT include in your response any records of communications
from me.
Dear Chris O'Hare [mail to: chrisoharegulfstream(d) mail.coml:
The Town of Gulf Stream has received your public records request dated December 11, 2016. The
original public records request can be found at the following link:
htty://www2. gulf-stream.orp-/weblink/0/doc/104033/Page l .gWxx
Please be advised that the Town of Gulf Stream is currently working on a large number of
incoming public records requests. The Town will use its very best efforts to respond to you in a
reasonable amount of time with the appropriate response or an estimated cost to respond.
Sincerely,
R"
As requested by Rita Taylor
Town Clerk, Custodian of the Records
TOWN OF GULF STREAM
PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
Delivered via a -mail
January 5, 2017
Chris O'Hare [mail to: chrisohareeul£stream(a,email.coml
Re: GS #2429 (JF comm. About signs on AIA/NOB)
I request to inspect any public records* of communications in the custody of the Town of Gulf
Stream ** inchuding in the custody of the entity that claims to be the Town Attorney for your
agency, namely Jones Foster Johnson & Stubbs P.A., related to signs on State Road A]A, (also
known as North Ocean Boulevard and NOB) in the Town of Gulf Stream. Please do NOT
include in your response any records of communications from me.
Dear Chris O'Hare [mail to: chrisoharegulfstream(a,email.coml:
The Town of Gulf Stream has received your public records request dated December 11, 2016.
You should be able to view your original request at the following link:
httv://www2.gulf-stream.org/weblink/O/doc/104033/Pagel.asl)x
You have asked that the Town only provide those records that do not require extensive use of
information technologies or extensive staff time or both in excess of 15 minutes and that the
Town provide an estimate of the cost that would be required to fulfill the request as permitted by
the Public Records Act. To that end, the Town has spent at least 15 minutes on your request and
is providing you with a partial response at the same link above.
The Town estimates that to fully respond to your request will require an additional half hour of
IT support at $95.00 per hour and a half hour of administrative support at $35.60 per hour, the
labor cost of the personnel providing the service, per Fla. Stat. § 119.07(4)(d).
If the costs of producing these documents will exceed your deposit, the Town will provide you
with an initial production of responsive records and an estimate for the production of any
additional responsive records. If the costs of production are less than the deposit, the Town will
provide you with the responsive records and a refund.
(1/2 hour at $95.00 + 1/2 hour at 35.60) = Deposit Due: $65.30 in cash or check.
Upon receipt of your deposit, the Town will use its very best efforts to further respond to your
public records request in a reasonable amount of time. If we do not hear back from you within
30 days of this letter, we will consider this request closed.
Sincerely,
As requested by Rita Taylor
Town Clerk, Custodian of the Records
Renee Basel
From:
Bankerb331 <bankerb331@aol.com>
Sent:
Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:05 PM
To:
beaudelafield@gmail.com; blwhittakerl@gmail.com; Bill Thrasher
Cc:
joanorthwein@gmail.com
Subject:
Re: A1A
Hello all
These various E mails are a great discussion about the finishing touches on what has been a very, very well received
project. As to the various items of discussion, I do have a few thoughts. As to painting the concrete bases of the polls,
my original thought was that they should be painted green. I have changed my feeling, however, after reading the
comment on weed beaters. This is a great point and a painted surface would not last a year with weekly lawn
maintenance. On the other hand the current concrete is s000 white. Would it be possible to test a penetrating treatment
that would make the concrete look older, i.e. more of a brownish concrete color that would not be a painted surface that
would chip and peal?
As to the placing of stop signs at the Golf Club and B&T, my personal feeling is that such high signs would be awful, and
are not required. Mark Henderson is not the right person to contact at the Club and I feel sure that the Golf Club would
not want the stop signs, even as pretty as they are. I do think that the Golf Club's signs are a bit tacky and should be
replaced with new ones that resemble the great looking signs that have been put at the Town Hall.
I am sorry to hear the results of the A1A inquiry and I have to suggest that we not accept this "no" answer without further
effort. If our sign company is going to stay in business it will have to modify it's signs to create a complying, break -away
option. We should challenge them in this regard and if they continue to stone wall the situation, then we should have our
maintenance people come up with a breakaway base that will meet the specs, and seek approval.
While on the subject of our supplier, I have noticed that there are a small number of the installed signs that are not
"plumb". I would hope we would have our town maintenance people, with level in hand, come up with a list of these and
ask the contractors to make corrections.
Switching gears a bit, I would observe that I really think it is important that the sample light pole at the police station be
changed to reflect the actual pole and light that we are going to receive. It's really important that there be no mistake
here. We all agree that the pole is too long and the light too small.
Our great team is on the three yard line with a touchdown in sight.
M7
—Original Message—
From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield@gmail.com>
To: Bill Boardman <bankerb331@aol.com>; Barbara Whittaker<blwhittakerl@gmail.com>
Cc: Joan Orthwein <joanorthwein@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 11:07 am
Subject: Fwd: AIA
FYI.
Best,
Beau
Sent from my Phone
Begin forwarded message:
From: 'Bill Thrasher" <bthrasher(c gulf-stream.orq>
Date: December 3, 2013 at 1:55:07 PM EST
To: 'Beau Delafield" <beaudelafield()gmail.com>
Subject: FW: A1A
See what Baron Sign found out from FDOT. This is what I thought would be the case. However, we tried
From: steve [mailto:steve(a)baronsign.coml
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: Bill Thrasher
Subject: RE: AIA
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After reaching out to FDOT, the AIA signs must follow the MUTCD code and as such do not allow for the decorative poles
and bases. They require breakaway bases on all new sign installs.
The $3,500 was the upcharge from the 4 man crew that had to hand dig the sign footers instead of using the bobcat and
auger as originally intended.
Thank you,
STEVE MARGOLESE
Senior Project Manager
BARON Sign Manufacturing
561.721.0646 (p) • 561.262.6237 (c)
From: Bill Thrasher [mailto:bthrasher(o gulf-stream.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:31 AM
To: steve
Subject: At
Steve,
Have you worked up a price for At A? Will FDOT allow us to upgrade the signs?
Please explain $3,500 added value charge on digging?
Thanks,
Bill
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Renee Basel
From:
Bill Thrasher
Sent:
Wednesday, December 4, 2013 12:18 AM
To:
bankerb331@aol.com
Subject:
Re: Al
Good input. I will do my best on this list and report.
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From: Bankerb331 <bankerb331@aol.com>
Date: 12/03/2013 9:04 PM (GMT -05:00)
To: beaudelafield@gmail.com,blwhittakerl@gmail.com,bthrasher@gulf-stream.org
Cc: joanorthwein@gmail.com
Subject: Re: AIA
Hello all,
These various E mails are a great discussion about the finishing touches on what has been a very, very well received
project. As to the various items of discussion, I do have a few thoughts. As to painting the concrete bases of the polls,
my original thought was that they should be painted green. I have changed my feeling, however, after reading the
comment on weed beaters. This is a great point and a painted surface would not last a year with weekly lawn
maintenance. On the other hand the current concrete is s000 white. Would it be possible to test a penetrating treatment
that would make the concrete look older, i.e. more of a brownish concrete color that would not be a painted surface that
would chip and peal?
As to the placing of stop signs at the Golf Club and B&T, my personal feeling is that such high signs would be awful, and
are not required. Mark Henderson is not the right person to contact at the Club and I feel sure that the Golf Club would
not want the stop signs, even as pretty as they are. I do think that the Golf Club's signs are a bit tacky and should be
replaced with new ones that resemble the great looking signs that have been put at the Town Hall.
I am sorry to hear the results of the Al inquiry and I have to suggest that we not accept this "no" answer without further
effort. If our sign company is going to stay in business it will have to modify it's signs to create a complying, break -away
option. We should challenge them in this regard and if they continue to stone wall the situation, then we should have our
maintenance people come up with a breakaway base that will meet the specs, and seek approval.
While on the subject of our supplier, I have noticed that there are a small number of the installed signs that are not
"plumb". I would hope we would have our town maintenance people, with level in hand, come up with a list of these and
ask the contractors to make corrections.
Switching gears a bit, I would observe that I really think it is important that the sample light pole at the police station be
changed to reflect the actual pole and light that we are going to receive. It's really important that there be no mistake
here. We all agree that the pole is too long and the light too small.
Our great team is on the three yard line with a touchdown in sight.
-----Original Message—
From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield@gmail.com>
To: Bill Boardman <bankerb331@aol.com>; Barbara Whittaker <blwhittakerl@gmail.com>
Cc: Joan Orthwein <joanorthwein@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 11:07 am
Subject: Fwd: A1A
FYI.
Best,
Beau
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: 'Bill Thrasher" <bthrasherCa)culf-stream.oro>
Date: December 3, 2013 at 1:55:07 PM EST
To: 'Beau Delafield" <beaudelafield(cDamall.com>
Subject: FW: AIA
See what Baron Sign found out from FDOT. This is what I thought would be the case. However, we tried.
From: steve [mailto:steve(a)baronsion.coml
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: Bill Thrasher
Subject: RE: A1A
MR
After reaching out to FDOT, the AIA signs must follow the MUTCD code and as such do not allow for the decorative poles
and bases. They require breakaway bases on all new sign installs.
The $3,500 was the upcharge from the 4 man crew that had to hand dig the sign footers instead of using the bobcat and
auger as originally intended.
Thank you,
STEVE MARGOLESE
Senior Project Manager
BARON Sign Manufacturing
561.721.0646 (p) • 561.262.6237 (c)
From: Bili Thrasher [mailto:bthrasher c gulf-stream.orol
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:31 AM
To: sieve
Subject: A1A
Steve,
Have you worked up a price for AIA? Will FDOT allow us to upgrade the signs?
Please explain $3,500 added value charge on digging?
Thanks,
IU
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From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:49 AM
To: Bankerb331
Cc: blwhittakerl@gmail.com; Bill Thrasher, joanorthwein@gmail.com
Subject: Re: A1A
Thank you for your email. I agree on trying a coating, however I defer to Barbara on the appropriate color.
Perhaps, we should put the clubs in touch with the sign company and they can install new signs, similar to our
new ones. The clubs should probably pay for their own signs, not the Town, correct?
I agree on pressing the sign company or exploring other options/ companies.
I agree on putting replacing the current model streetlight with the ones we are actually going to install.
Thank you and have a great day!
Best,
Beau
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Bankerb331 <bankerb331 aa,aol.com> wrote:
Hello all,
These various E mails are a great discussion about the finishing touches on what has been a very, very well received
project. As to the various items of discussion, I do have a few thoughts. As to painting the concrete bases of the polls,
my original thought was that they should be painted green. I have changed my feeling, however, after reading the
comment on weed beaters. This is a great point and a painted surface would not last a year with weekly lawn
maintenance. On the other hand the current concrete is s000 white. Would it be possible to test a penetrating treatment
that would make the concrete look older, i.e. more of a brownish concrete color that would not be a painted surface that
would chip and peal?
As to the placing of stop signs at the Golf Club and B&T, my personal feeling is that such high signs would be awful, and
are not required. Mark Henderson is not the right person to contact at the Club and I feel sure that the Golf Club would
not want the stop signs, even as pretty as they are. I do think that the Golf Club's signs are a bit tacky and should be
replaced with new ones that resemble the great looking signs that have been put at the Town Hall.
I am sorry to hear the results of the Al inquiry and I have to suggest that we not accept this "no" answer without further
effort. If our sign company is going to stay in business it will have to modify it's signs to create a complying, break -away
option. We should challenge them in this regard and if they continue to stone wall the situation, then we should have our
maintenance people come up with a breakaway base that will meet the specs, and seek approval.
While on the subject of our supplier, I have noticed that there are a small number of the installed signs that are not
"plumb". I would hope we would have our town maintenance people, with level in hand, come up with a list of these and
ask the contractors to make corrections.
Switching gears a bit, I would observe that I really think it is important that the sample light pole at the police station be
changed to reflect the actual pole and light that we are going to receive. It's really important that there be no mistake
here. We all agree that the pole is too long and the light too small.
Our great team is on the three yard line with a touchdown in sight.
7-1
—Original Message—
From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield(cDomail.com>
To: Bill Boardman <bankerb331(a)aol.com>; Barbara Whittaker <b1whittaker1(c_gmail.com>
Cc: Joan Orthwein <ioanorthwein(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 11:07 am
Subject: Fwd: AM
FYI.
Best,
Beau
Sent from my Phone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Bill Thrasher" <bthrasher(a)oulf-stream.orq>
Date: December 3, 2013 at 1:55:07 PM EST
To: "Beau Delafield" <beaudelafield(agmail.com>
Subject: FW: A1A
See what Baron Sign found out from FDOT. This is what I thought would be the case. However, we tried.
From: steve rmailto:steve(a)baronsign.coml
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: Bill Thrasher
Subject: RE: AIA
23
After reaching out to FDOT, the AIA signs must follow the MUTCD code and as such do not allow for the decorative poles
and bases. They require breakaway bases on all new sign installs.
The $3,500 was the upcharge from the 4 man crew that had to hand dig the sign footers instead of using the bobcat and
auger as originally intended.
Thank you,
STEVE MARGOLESE
Senior Project Manager
BARON Sign Manufacturing
561.721.0646 (p) • 561.262.6237 (c)
From: Bill Thrasher (mailto:bthrasher cDgulf-stream.oral
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:31 AM
To: Steve
Subject: A1A
Steve,
Have you worked up a price for Al A? Will FDOT allow us to upgrade the signs?
Please explain $3,500 added value charge on digging?
Thanks,
IM
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From:
Bill Thrasher
Sent:
Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:35 PM
To:
'Bankerb331'
Subject:
RE: A1A
MW
We have determined that all sign poles are plumb. The contractor used a level when installing, and today Brian used a
level to determine plumb and found all "OK". Sergeant Haseley did his own evaluation and came to the same
conclusion. However, the concrete bases seem uneven in some locations and it may give the illusion of the poles not
being plumb. We did find one "stop sign", not the pole, slightly twisted or cocked. That was corrected.
We have "stained" two concrete bases for your and other r view and to give me direction. One is stained brown and
one is stained dark green. They both seem acceptable. Please drive by and let us know which looks better and we will
begin painting the bases throughout town. The samples are located at the rear entrance to Town Hall at the "handicap
parking sign". Good viewing.
The A1A signage blockade is not the contractor's fault or decision. It is FDOT's right-of-way and they determine what
will go in that space, regardless of the vendor. However, I am going to do my own verification of this.
Danny Brannon has been informed that the sample pole and light must be change to represent what exactly is going to
be installed and seen by our residents during the undergrounding project. He said he would make those arrangements.
No time for this has been determined yet but ASAP and in a reasonable amount of time.
Finally, I have informed Mark Henderson at the GSGC that the Town will not be installing any signs at the GSGC and that
it will be something the Club will handle if at all.
From: Bankerb331 [mailto:bankerb331@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:05 PM
To: beaudelafield@gmail.com; blwhittakerl@gmail.com; Bill Thrasher
Cc: joanorthwein@gmail.com
Subject: Re: AlA
Hello all,
These various E mails are a great discussion about the finishing touches on what has been a very, very well received
project. As to the various items of discussion, I do have a few thoughts. As to painting the concrete bases of the polls,
my original thought was that they should be painted green. I have changed my feeling, however, after reading the
comment on weed beaters. This is a great point and a painted surface would not last a year with weekly lawn
maintenance. On the other hand the current concrete is s000 white. Would it be possible to test a penetrating treatment
that would make the concrete look older, i.e. more of a brownish concrete color that would not be a painted surface that
would chip and peal?
As to the placing of stop signs at the Golf Club and B&T, my personal feeling is that such high signs would be awful, and
are not required. Mark Henderson is not the right person to contact at the Club and I feel sure that the Golf Club would
not want the stop signs, even as pretty as they are. I do think that the Golf Club's signs are a bit tacky and should be
replaced with new ones that resemble the great looking signs that have been put at the Town Hall.
I am sorry to hear the results of the At inquiry and I have to suggest that we not accept this "no" answer without further
effort. If our sign company is going to stay in business it will have to modify it's signs to create a complying, break -away
option. We should challenge them in this regard and if they continue to stone wall the situation, then we should have our
maintenance people come up with a breakaway base that will meet the specs, and seek approval.
While on the subject of our supplier, I have noticed that there are a small number of the installed signs that are not
"plumb". I would hope we would have our town maintenance people, with level in hand, come up with a list of these and
ask the contractors to make corrections.
Switching gears a bit, I would observe that I really think it is important that the sample light pole at the police station be
changed to reflect the actual pole and light that we are going to receive. It's really important that there be no mistake
here. We all agree that the pole is too long and the light too small.
Our great team is on the three yard line with a touchdown in sight.
BB
—Original Message—
From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield(ci)omail.com>
To: Bill Boardman <bankerb331(rDaol.com>; Barbara Whittaker <blwhittakerlCa)cmail.com>
Cc: Joan Orthwein <ioanorthweinnc omail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 11:07 am
Subject: Fwd: A1A
FYI.
Best,
Beau
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Bill Thrasher" <bthrasher(a)gulf-stream.orc>
Date: December 3, 2013 at 1:55:07 PM EST
To: "Beau Delafield" <beaudelafield(a)amail.com>
Subject: FW: AIA
See what Baron Sign found out from FOOT. This is what I thought would be the case. However, we tried.
From: steve fmaiito:steve(o)baronsicn.coml
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: Bill Thrasher
Subject: RE: Al
Bill,
After reaching out to FOOT, the AIA signs must follow the MUTCD code and as such do not allow for the decorative poles
and bases. They require breakaway bases on all new sign installs.
The $3,500 was the upcharge from the 4 man crew that had to hand dig the sign footers instead of using the bobcat and
auger as originally intended.
Thank you,
STEVE MARGOLESE
Senior Project Manager
BARON Sign Manufacturing
561.721.0646 (p) 0 561.262.6237 (c)
From: Bill Thrasher fmailto:bthrasher(o)gulf-stream.orgl
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:31 AM
To: steve
Subject: A1A
Steve,
Have you worked up a price for A1A? Will FDOT allow us to upgrade the signs?
Please explain $3,500 added value charge on digging?
Thanks,
Bill
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From:
joan orthwein <joanorthwein@gmail.com>
Sent:
Friday, June 6, 2014 11:51 AM
To:
OConnor, Joanne M.
Subject:
Fwd: A1A
Forwarded message
From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield(ir gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: AIA
To: Bankerb331 <bankerb331 c(�i.aol.com>
Cc: "blwhittakerl @email.com" <blwhittakerl (cDgmail.com>, "bthrasher cr gulf-stream.ore" <bthrasher a eulf-
stream.org>, "joanorthwein a email.com" <ioanorthwein(t�,gnail.com>
Thank you for your email. I agree on trying a coating, however I defer to Barbara on the appropriate color.
Perhaps, we should put the clubs in touch with the sign company and they can install new signs, similar to our
new ones. The clubs should probably pay for their own signs, not the Town, correct?
I agree on pressing the sign company or exploring other options/ companies.
I agree on putting replacing the current model streetlight with the ones we are actually going to install.
Thank you and have a great day!
Best,
Beau
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Bankerb331 <bankerb331 &,,aol.com> wrote:
Hello all,
These various E mails are a great discussion about the finishing touches on what has
been a very, very well received project. As to the various items of discussion, I do have
a few thoughts. As to painting the concrete bases of the polls, my original thought was
that they should be painted green. I have changed my feeling, however, after reading
the comment on weed beaters. This is a great point and a painted surface would not
last a year with weekly lawn maintenance. On the other hand the current concrete is
s000 white. Would it be possible to test a penetrating treatment that would make the
concrete look older, i.e. more of a brownish concrete color that would not be a painted
surface that would chip and peal?
As to the placing of stop signs at the Golf Club and B&T, my personal feeling is that
such high signs would be awful, and are not required. Mark Henderson is not the right
person to contact at the Club and I feel sure that the Golf Club would not want the stop
signs, even as pretty as they are. I do think that the Golf Club's signs are a bit tacky
and should be replaced with new ones that resemble the great looking signs that have
been put at the Town Hall.
I am sorry to hear the results of the Al inquiry and I have to suggest that we not
accept this "no" answer without further effort. If our sign company is going to stay in
business it will have to modify it's signs to create a complying, break -away option. We
should challenge them in this regard and if they continue to stone wall the situation,
then we should have our maintenance people come up with a breakaway base that will
meet the specs, and seek approval.
While on the subject of our supplier, I have noticed that there are a small number of the
installed signs that are not "plumb". I would hope we would have our town maintenance
people, with level in hand, come up with a list of these and ask the contractors to make
corrections.
Switching gears a bit, I would observe that I really think it is important that the sample
light pole at the police station be changed to reflect the actual pole and light that we are
going to receive. It's really important that there be no mistake here. We all agree that
the pole is too long and the light too small.
Our great team is on the three yard line with a touchdown in sight.
BB
----Original Message ----
From: Beau Delafield <beaudelafield(g gmall.com>
To: Bill Boardman <bankerb331(cDaol.com>;Barbara Whittaker<blwhittaker1(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Joan Orthwein <ioanorthwein cDgmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 11:07 am
Subject: Fwd: A1A
FYI.
Best,
Beau
Sent from my Phone
Begin forwarded message
From: "Bill Thrasher" <bthrasher(a)gulf-stream.orq>
Date: December 3, 2013 at 1:55:07 PM EST
To: "Beau Delafield" <beaudelafield(cDgmail.com>
Subject: FW: A1A
See what Baron Sign found out from FDOT. This is what I thought would be the
case. However, we tried.
From: steve fmailto:steve(cDbaronsign.coml
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: Bill Thrasher
Subject: RE: A1A
"a
After reaching out to FDOT, the AIA signs must follow the MUTCD code and as such do
not allow for the decorative poles and bases. They require breakaway bases on all new
sign installs.
The $3,500 was the upcharge from the 4 man crew that had to hand dig the sign footers
instead of using the bobcat and auger as originally intended.
Thank you,
STEVE MARGOLESE
Senior Project Manager
BARON Sign Manufacturing
561.721.0646 (p) • 561.262.6237 (c)
From: Bill Thrasher rmailto:bthrasherCa)aulf-stream.orol
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:31 AM
To: steve
Subject: A1A
Steve,
Have you worked up a price for At A? Will FDOT allow us to upgrade the signs?
Please explain $3,500 added value charge on digging?
Thanks,
Bill
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From: Bill Thrasher
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:25 AM
To: OConnor, Joanne M.
Subject: RE: SERVICE OF COURT DOCUMENT O'Boyle v. Thrasher, et al Civ. Case No. 14 -
CV -80317
Got it. Sgt. Haseley and maintenance supervisor did most of the removal of place au soleil sign removal. You will need
their testimony as to procedure. I was the person that directed action. I maintained impartial actiin affecting all signage
removal from town row and that can be verified by maintenance.. FDOT removed signs from AIA. I verified yesterday
that all signs placed on private property in PAS the day before, 3rd, were still in place and not removed verifiable by my
and with my written log. Yesterday there were about 19 signs on private property, all oboyle and no PAC signs
anywhere in PAS. I have no info about what happened outside town boundaries. Talk tomorrow.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smanphone
-------- Original message --------
From: "OConnor, Joanne M."
Date:03/05/2014 8:43 PM (GMT -05:00)
To: Bill Thrasher
Cc: "Rizzardi, Keith W." ,"Baird, Thomas 1." ,"Widboom, Daniel R."
Subject: Fwd: SERVICE OF COURT DOCUMENT O'Boyle v. Thrasher, et al Civ. Case No. 14 -CV -80317
Spoke too soon.
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Marrett Hanna <mhanna@oboylelawfirm.com>
Date: March 5, 2014 at 8:31:34 PM EST
To: "ioconnor@ionesfoster.com" <loconnor@ionesfoster.com>
Subject: SERVICE OF COURT DOCUMENT O'Boyle v. Thrasher, et al Civ. Case No. 14 -CV -80317
Attached please find documents filed late today in the United States District Court for the Southern
District (all in one pdf package). Judge Middlebrooks is "out of the district." A duty judge will be
assigned.
1. Verified Emergency Motion
2. Verified Emergency Complaint
If you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to contact me via email:
mhanna@oboylelawfirm.com or via my direct line: 954-570-3518.
Thank you,
Marrett W. Hanna