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CITY OF TEMPLE CITY
Parks and Recreation. Commission
Minutes of January 21, 1976
1. The regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission was called to
order by Chairman Seibert at 7:30 p.m. on. Wednesday, January 21, 1976 i,
the Council Chambers of City Hall, 5938 North Kauffman Avenue, Temple
City, California,
2, Chairman Seibert led the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag"
3. ROLL CALL: Present: Commissioners Adams, Andrews, Stack,
Seibert.
Absent: Commissioner Villar.
Also Present: Victor B. Kobett, Director of Parks
and Recreation.
Director Kobett advised the Commission that Couuuissioner Villar had
notified the Department that he could not be in attendance at this
evening's meeting due to illness in the family,
Commissioner Andrews moved to excuse Commissioner Villar's absence,
Commissioner Adams seconded the motion, which passed.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Adams moved to approve the minutes of the regular meeting
of December 17, 1975 and the adjourned meeting of January 14, 1976.
Commissioner Andrews seconded the motion, which passed.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
5. REQUEST FOR USE OF FACILITIES: Temple City Creative Arts:
Director Kobett stated that at the Commission's last meeting, a request
was received from the Creative Arts for use of the Multi - Purpose Room
at Live Oak Park every Monday of 1976 from 10:00 a.m. to 2 :00 p.m. and
the second and fourth Tuesday of each month. of 1976 from 7 :30 to 10 :00 p.m.
to conduct art workshops and meetings. At that time, the Commission'
approved this request for the month of January 1976 without the require-
ment of liability insurance and requesting the group to return this
month with some estimates as to how much liability insurance would cost
the club.
Mrs. Judy Magnell a, Temple City Creative Arts, 456 Fairview, Apt. 105,
Arcadia, spoke and informed the Commission that the premium for her
organization would be $46.00 to purchase the amount of liability insurance
required by the City, and that her club had approved the purchase of
this insurance.
Director Kobett inquired if this includes the Certificate of Insurance
naming the City as coinsured to which Mrs. M:agnell.a replied that it did.
Commissioner Andrews moved to approve the request received from Temple
City Creative Arts for the use of the Multi- Purpose Room at Live Oak
Park on Mondays and Tuesdays from February through December 1976 and
at the times as stated, subject to the filing of the necessary insurance
certificate. Commissioner Adams seconded the motion and, as there were
no objections, Chairman Seibert declared the motion carried,
6. REQUEST FOR USE OF FACILITIES: Temple City Convertible TOPS #506:
Director Kobett stated that representatives from the TOPS Club were not
able to be present at the last Commission meeting and that the Commission
approved the TOPS request for use of the Meeting Room at Live Oak Park
on Tuesday evenings in 1976, for the month, of January only without the
-requirement of liability insurance,
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n o o b j e c t i o n s , C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t d e c l a r e d t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d .
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p r e s e n t t h e n e w i n f o r m a t i o n o b t a i n e d r e g a r d i n g i n s u r a n c e r a t e s . A t t h a t
m e e t i n g , t h e C o m m i s s i o n w i l l a c t o n t h e c l u b ' s r e q u e s t f o r t h e r e m a i n d e r
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L o s A n g e l e s C o u n t y :
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m i s s i o n r e g a r d i n g t h e R e c r e a t i o n M a s t e r P l a n f o r t h e S a n t a F e D a m a n d
a d v i s e d t h e m t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l r e q u e s t e d t h e y r e v i e w : , t h e p l a n , a n d . . .
f o r w a r d : t h e i r c o m m e n t a n d s u g g e s t i o n s . T h e d o c u m e n t w a s p l a c e d i n C o m -
m i s s i o n c i r c u l a t e o v e r t h e w e e k e n d f o r t h e i r p e r u s a l a n d d i s c u s s i o n t h i s
e v e n i n g .
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o f f u n d s f o r a r e c r e a t i o n f a c i l i t y a t t h i s t i m e .
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m a k e n o w w o u l d b e a f t e r t h e f a c t .
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n e e d f o r c o m m e n t s o r r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s f r o m t h e C o m m i s s i o n t o t h e C i t y
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r e v i e w t h e p l a n a n d f o r w a r d t h e i r c o m m e n t s e v e n t h o u g h t h e C i t y C o u n c i l
h a s e x p r e s s e d t h e i r p o s i t i o n t o t h e C o u n t y .
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w a s n o l o n g e r n e c e s s a r y a n d t h e r e f o r e n o a c t i o n w a s t a k e n o n t h e r e q u e s t
a n d t h e r e p o r t w a s r e c e i v e d a n d f i l e d .
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A m e r i c a n L i t t l e L e a g u e :
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A m e r i c a n L i t t l e L e a g u e f o r p e r m i s s i o n t o c o n d u c t a b r e a k f a s t a t t h e
L i v e O a k P a r k p i c n i c s h e l t e r o n S a t u r d a y , J u n e 1 2 , 1 9 7 6 . P e r m i s s i o n
i s a l s o r e q u e s t e d f o r u s e o f t h e p i c n i c s h e l t e r o n F r i d a y , J u n e l l t h
a n d t o b r i n & a v e h i c l e o n t h e p a r k t h a t d a t e o v e r n i g h t f o r t h e p r o t e c r
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i s b e i n g s e r v e d t o s t o r e i c e f o r t h e p e r i s h a b l e f o o d s .
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e v e n t .
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L e a g u e :
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J u n e 3 0 , 1 9 7 6 f r o m 2 : 3 0 t o 4 : 3 0 p . m .
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C i t y , r e p r e s e n t i n g G i r l ' s B a s e b a l l , w h o s t a t e d t h a t t h e y w o u l d l i k e
t o a d d u s e o f t h e E a s t F i e l d t o t h e i r r e q u e s t . H e a l s o a s k e d t h a t
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o n l y o n e d i a m o n d , o n l y t w o g a m e s c o u l d b e s c h e d u l e d o n e a c h S u n d a y ,
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S u n d a y t o c o m p l e t e t h e i r 5 6 g a m e s c h e d u l e . A l s o , i n r e p l y t o o t h e r
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b e o p e n e d a n d t h a t t h e y c a n n o t p r e p a r e a d e f i n i t e s c h e d u l e u n t i l t h e y
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L e a g u e w i l l m a k e t h e d i a m o n d s a v a i l a b l e t o t h e m .
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a t 1 : 0 0 p . m . o n S u n d a y a n d , i n a n s w e r t o C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t ' s i n q u i r y ,
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h a s b e e n m i n i m a l .
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d i a m o n d s t o e n a b l e t h e G i r l s ' L e a g u e t o p l a y t h e i r n e c e s s a r y 5 6 g a m e s
o n w e e k d a y s .
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s h o u l d c o m p l e t e t h e i r s c h e d u l e o f g a m e s a n d t h e n r e q u e s t o n l y t h e
S u n d a y s t h a t w i l l b e n e e d e d f o r t h e s e a s o n .
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G i r l ! - , g B a s e b a l l L e a g u e f o r u s e o f t h e B a s e b a l l D i a m o n d s a n d t h e
E a s t F i e l d , i f a v a i l a b l e d u e t o r e d e v e l o p m e n t , a t L i v e O a k P a r k
f o r b a s e b a l l p r a c t i c e , M o n d a y t h r o u g h F r i d a y , f r o m F e b r u a r y 9 , 1 9 7 6
t h r o u g h J u n e 3 0 , 1 9 7 6 f r o m 2 : 3 0 t o 4 : 3 0 p . m . b e a p p r o v e d s u b j e c t
t o t h e n e c e s s a r y i n s u r a n c e c e r t i f i c a t e b e i n g o b t a i n e d ,
C o m m i s s i o n e r S t a c k s - e c o n d e d t h e m o t i o n a n d , a s t h e r e w e r e n o o b -
j e c t i o n s , C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t d e c l a r e d t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d .
9 . T I M E F O R T H O S E I N A U D I E N C E W H O W I S H T O S P E A K :
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t o t h e C o m m i s s i o n t h a t p e r h a p s t h e C h a m b e r o f C o m m e r c e c o u l d a s s i s t
t h e o r g a n i z a t i o n s a n d g r o u p s i n q u i r i n g w h e r e t o p u r c h a s e l i a b i l i t y
i n s u r a n c e . H e i n d i c a t e d t h a t A m e r i c a n . L i t t l e L e a g u e ' s c o s t i s
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B M r , J o h n A l c a n t a r a , T e m p l e C i t y A m e r i c a n L i t t l e L e a g u e , i n q u i r e d o f
t h e C o m m i s s i o n w h a t t h e p l a n s w e r e r e g a r d i n g t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d
a t L i v e O a k P a r k .
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t o w h a t d i r e c t i o n w i l l b e f o l l o w e d a s y e t , b u t , a s h e s e e s i t , t h e r e
a r e t w o c h o i c e s , 1 ) l e a v i n g i t w h e r e i t i s o r 2 ) d e s t r o y i n g i t a n d
u s i n g a m o b i l e u n i t . I t w a s h i s f e e l i n g t h a t t h e C i t y c o u l d n o t
e x p e n d f u n d s t o r e l o c a t e a s t r u c t u r e a s t e m p o r a r y a s t h e c o n c e s s i o n
s t a n d ,
C o m m i s s i o n e r S t a c k s t a t e d t h a t t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d i s n o t r e a l l y
v i t a l t o t h e d e v e l o p m e n t o f t h e p a r k a n d i t d o e s n o t b e n e f i t . t h e
C i t y a s a w h o l e , t h e r e f o r e , i t b e c o m e s t h e r e s p o n s i b i l i t y o f t h e
L i t t l e L e a g u e t o p r o v i d e a r e p l a c e m e n t s t a n d . T h e b a s e b a l l g a m e s
c a n b e p l a y e d w i t h o u t t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d , h e c o n t i n u e d . P o s s i b l y
t h e C i t y a n d t h e L i t t l e L e a g u e c o u l d j o i n t l y c o n s t r u c t a c o m b i n a t i o n
s t o r a g e / c o n c e s s i o n b u i l d i n g w h e r e p a r k t o o l s a n d o t h e r C i t y e q u i p m e n t
c o u l d b e s t o r e d , h e a d d e d .
C o m m i s s i o n e r A n d r e w s i n d i c a t e d t h a t h e r e m e m b e r s a s t a t e m e n t i n d i c a t -
i n g t h a t i t w a s f e l t t h e C i t y w o u l d b e r e s p o n s i b l e t o m o v e t h e f a c i l -
i t y o f t h e l e a g u e . A l s o , a s o t h e r y o u t h g r o u p s u s e t h e c o n c e s s i o n
s t a n d t o o , t h e M a s t e r P l a n s h o w s a c o m b i n a t i o n c o n c e s s i o n / s t o r a g e
b u i l d i n g f o r t h e s t o r a g e o f y o u t h g r o u p ' s e q u i p m e n t . "
C o m m i s s i o n e r A n d r e w s c o m m e n t e d , a n d t h e C o m m i s s i o n e r s a g r e e d , t h a t
A m e r i c a n L i t t l e L e a g u e h - L s s h o w n a t r e m e n d o u s a m o u n t o f c o o p e r a t i o n
t h u s f a r i n t h e d e v e l o p m e n t o f L i v e O a k P a r k a n d t h a t t h e c o n c e s -
s i o n s t a n d w o u l d n o t b e d e m o l i s h e d w i t h o u t n o t i f y i n g t h e l e a g u e .
M r . A l c a n t a r a s u b m i t t e d t w o r e a s o n s w h y t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d s h o u l d
b e c o n s t r u c t e d i n P h a s e O n e a s o p p o s e d t o P h a s e T w o , 1 ) t h e s t a n d ,
w h e r e i t i s n o w l o c a t e d , w i l l b e i n t h e f i e l d w h e r e s o c c e r a n d
f o o t b a l l w i l l b e p l a y e d a n d 2 ) i t d o e s n o t e n h a n c e t h e a p p e a r a n c e
o f t h e p a r k a s i t n o w s t a n d s . H e q u e s t i o n e d t o w h i c h l o c a t i o n t h e
s t a n d w o u l d b e m o v e d a n d w h o w o u l d h a v e t h e p a d f o r t h e b u i l d i n g
i n s t a l l e d . H e a d d e d t h a t A m e r i c a n L i t t l e L e a g u e c a n p r o v i d e m a n -
p o w e r b u t n o t f u n d s f o r t h i s p r o j e c t .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s a i d i t m i g h t b e b e s t t o o b t a i n a m o b i l e u n i t f o r
a f e w y e a r s , a t t h e L e a g u e ' s e x p e n s e , r a t h e r t h a n m o v i n g o n e c o n -
c e s s i o n s t a n d a n d t h e n h a v i n g t o d e m o l i s h i t a n d b u i l d a n e w o n e .
T h e r e w a s c o n s i d e r a b l e d i s c u s s i o n r e g a r d i n g t h e i n s t a l l a t i o n o f a
c o n c r e t e p a d f o r t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d a s t o s i z e , w h o w o u l d c o v e r 0
t h e c o s t f o r t h e p a d , p l u m b i n g a n d e l e c t r i c a l i n s t a l l a t i o n s .
D i r e c t o r K o b e t t r e m i n d e d t h e C o m m i s s i o n t h a t t h e r e i s n o f u n d i n g ,
p r e s e n t l y , i n t h i s p h a s e o f t h e r e d e v e l o p m e n t o f L i v e O a k P a r k , f o r
t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d , p a d , p l u m b i n g o r e l e c t r i c a l w o r k , e t c . H e
i n d i c a t e d t h a t t h e d e v e l o p m e n t p l a n s s h o w t h e p r o p o s e d n e w l o c a t i o n
o f t h e c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d a n d t h a t a d o m e s t i c w a t e r l i n e t o s e r v e t h e
s t a n d i s b e i n g i n s t a l l e d a s p a r t o f t h e i r r i g a t i o n p r o j e c t .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s u g g e s t e d t h a t b e f o r e a p a d , p l u m b i n g a n d e l e c t r i -
c a l w o r k c a n b e a c c o m p l i s h e d , d e s i g n p l a n s a n d s p e c i f i c a t i o n s n e e d
t o b e d r a w n .
D i r e c t o r K o b e t t i n f o r m e d t h e C o m m i s s i o n t h a t M r , A l S a v i a n o , a
r e s i d e n t a n d c o n t r a c t o r , w a s p r e s e n t a t o n e . o f t h e c o m m u n i t y m e e t i n g s
r e g a r d i n g t h e L i v e O a k P a r k d e v e l o p m e n t a n d o f f e r e d t o d e s i g n a
c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d f o r t h e y o u t h g r o u p s a n d t o a s s i s t i n s u p e r v i s i n g
t h e b u i l d i n g p r o j e c t ,
T h e C o m m i s s i o n s u g g e s t e d t o M r : A l c a n t a r a t h a t h e c o n t a c t M r . S a v i a n o
a n d e x p l o r e h i s o f f e r a n d t o c o n s i d e r o t h e r a l t e r n a t i v e s f o r a
c o n c e s s i o n s t a n d u n t i l s u c h t i m e a s a d e c i s i o n i s m a d e : "
C e C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t i n f o r m e d t h e C o m m i s s i o n t h a t t h e C i t y h a d r e c e i v e d
a p r o p o s a l f o r t h e l i g h t i n g d e s i g n f o r t h e a t h l e t i c f i e l d s a t L i v e
O a k P a r k i n t h e a m o u n t o f $ 4 , 6 0 0 : 0 0 :
" "
P a r k s a n d R e c r e a t i o n C o m m i s s i o n M e e t i n g - - J a n u a r y 2 1 , 1 9 7 6 P a g e 5 ,
D i r e c t o r K o b e t t i n d i c a t e d t h a t s i n c e t h a t t i m e a n o t h e r p r o p o s a l
w a s r e q u e s t e d a n d h a s b e e n r e c e i v e d f o r t h e d e s i g n o f t h e u n d e r g r o u n d
p h a s e o n l y a t a n e s t i m a t e d c o s t o f $ 2 , 7 0 0 . 0 0 .
C o m m i s s i o n e r A n d r e w s i n d i c a t e d t h a t Y o u t h F o o t b a l l w a s a c t i v e l y
p u r s u i n g a p r o j e c t f o r a s s i s t i n g w i t h t h e l i g h t i n g a t t h e p a r k ;
h o w e v e r , i t w i l l n o t b e a v a i l a b l e f o r s e v e r a l w e e k s .
T h e C o m m i s s i o n w a s g e n e r a l l y o f t h e o p i n i o n t h a t a s t h e C i t y d o e s
n o t h a v e t h e f u n d s t o i n s t a l l t h e l i g h t s , t h a t t h o s e o r g a n i z a t i o n s
i d e n t i f i e d w i t h h a v i n g a n e e d f o r l i g h t e d o u t d o o r f a c i l i t i e s b e
c o n t a c t e d t o d e t e r m i n e t h a t i f t h e l i g h t i n g d e s i g n w a s a v a i l a b l e ,
w o u l d t h e y f i n a n c e t h e p r o j e c t a n d p r o v i d e t h e n e c e s s a r y v o l u n t e e r
m a n p o w e r n e e d e d t o c o m p l e t e i t . I f t h e o r g a n i z a t i o n s i n d i c a t e
t h e y c a n n o t u n d e r t a k e t h e p r o j e c t , t h e r e w o u l d b e n o n e e d f o r t h e
l i g h t i n g d e s i g n a t t h i s t i m e .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t i n f o r m e d t h e C o m m i s s i o n t h a t t h e l i g h t i n g f o r t h e
t e n n i s c o u r t s a t T e m p l e C i t y H i g h S c h o o l a r e a g a i n b e i n g d i s c u s s e d
b y t h e C i t y a n d t h e S c h o o l D i s t r i c t .
"
1 0 . D I R E C T O R ' S R E P O R T :
D i r e c t o r K o b e t t r e p o r t e d t o t h e C o m m i s s i o n t h a t :
" A . G l i c k m a n S t r e e t a t L i v e O a k P a r k h a s b e e n r e m o v e d .
B . B i d s o n C o n s t r u c t i o n C o n t r a c t s n u m b e r o n e , t w o a n d t h r e e w i l l b e
o p e n e d o n F r i d a y , J a n u a r y 2 3 , 1 9 7 6 .
C . R e c r e a t i o n S u p e r v i s o r B e r t h a 0 1 1 i v i e r i s d e v e l o p i n g a M e n ' s
B a s k e t b a l l l e a g u e , a n a c t i v e v o l l e y b a l l p r o g r a m a n d a g y m n a s t i c
a n d t u m b l i n g p r o g r a m .
D . A W h a l e W a t c h i n g T r i p i s s c h e d u l e d f o r S a t u r d a y , J a n u a r y 3 1 , 1 9 7 6 .
1 1 . M A T T E R S F R O M C I T Y O F F I C I A L S :
A C o m m i s s i o n e r A d a m s s t a t e d t h a t t h e a c t i o n t h e C o m m i s s i o n t o o k e a r l i e r
t h i s e v e n i n g a p p r o v i n g t h e u s e o f C i t y r e c r e a t i o n f a c i l i t i e s a t
L i v e O a k P a r k b e C r e a t i v e A r t s s u b j e c t t o t h e C i t y i n s u r a n c e
r e q u i r e m e n t , w a s n o t i n a c c o r d w i t h t h e d e c i s i o n o f t h e C o m m i s -
s i o n a t t h e i r a d j o u r n e d m e e t i n g o f J a n u a r y 1 4 , 1 9 7 6 . A t t h e
a d j o u r n e d m e e t i n g a l l o f t h e C o m m i s s i o n e r s w e r e i n f a v o r o f r e -
v i e w i n g t h e i n s u r a n c e r e q u i r e m e n t f o r a l l g r o u p s w h o s e a c t i v i t i e s
w e r e n o t h a z a r d o u s e v e n t h o u g h t h e g u i d e l i n e s r e q u i r e t h e m t o
s u p p l y a n i n s u r a n c e c e r t i f i c a t e d u e t o e x t e n d e d u s e . I t w a s h i s
f e e l i n g t h a t t h e C o m m i s s i o n h a s s e t a p r e c e d e n t i n a p p r o v i n g
C r e a t i v e A r t s u s e o f f a c i l i t i e s s u b j e c t t o f i l i n g a c e r t i f i c a t e o f
i n s u r a n c e a n d i t w i l l b e d i f f i c u l t t o a p p r o v e r e q u e s t s r e c e i v e d
f r o m o t h e r g r o u p s i n v o l v e d i n n o n - h a z a r d o u s a c t i v i t i e s w i t h o u t
r e q u i r i n g t h a t t h e y a l s o o b t a i n l i a b i l i t y i n s u r a n c e . F r o m a
r e c r e a t i o n s t a n d p o i n t , h e a d d e d , i t i s a s h a m e t h a t g n o u p s c a n n o t
c o m e i n t o a r e c r e a t i o n b u i l d i n g w i t h o u t b u y i n g i n s u r a n c e . W e a r e
n o t p e r f o r m i n g o u r j o b a s a C o i m i s s i o n r e s p o n s i b l e t o t h e c i t i z e n s
o f T e m p l e C i t y b y a d d i n g t h e i n s u r a n c e r e q u i r e m e n t f o r g r o u p s
l i k e C r e a t i v e A r t s , h e s t a t e d .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s a i d t h a t , f o r t h e g r o u p ' s o w n p r o t e c t i o n , t h e y
s h o u l d h a v e i n s u r a n c e . H e a l s o s a i d t h a t h e h a d t a l k e d w i t h t h e
M a y o r i n d i c a t i n g t h a t t h e C o m m i s s i o n i s d e s i r o u s o f a d e f i n i t e
d i r e c t i o n f r o m t h e C i t y C o u n c i l r e g a r d i n g w h i c h g r o u p s a n d o r g a n i z a -
t i o n s s h o u l d a n d w h i c h g r o u p s a n d o r g a n i z a t i o n s s h o u l d n o t b e
r e q u i r e d t o o b t a i n l i a b i l i t y i n s u r a n c e n a m i n g t h e C i t y o f T e m p l e
C i t y a s c o i n s u r e d .
C o m m i s s i o n e r A n d r e w s f e l t i t i s i m p o r t a n t f o r t h e C i t y C o u n c i l t o
b e a w a r e t h a t a g r o u p l i k e T O P S , f o r i n s t a n c e , m e e t s o n l y t o
w e i g h t h e m s e l v e s a n d c o n d u c t a m e e t i n g . H e w o n d e r e d i f i t i s f a i r
t o r e q u i r e t h e m t o o b t a i n i n s u r a n c e a n d f e l t a c l a r i f i c a t i o n w a s
n e e d e d .
Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting -- January 21, 1976 Page 6.
Commissioner Stack said it is his opinion that there is no danger
of injury in painting a picture and that he is definitely opposed
to requiring an organization such as Creative Arts or TOPS to
obtain insurance because of the nature of their meetings. Under
the guidelines the Commission established, he continued, the
organization. needs to be involved in an activity which is dangeroulll
or injurious and, he stated, that neither of these two groups
conduct activities which are hazardous.
Director Kobett commented that the memo from the City Council
indicates that it is their intent that organizations and groups
that are using the recreation facilities and are conducting activi-
ties the nature of which are hazardous should purchase liability
insurance, The City Council also expects groups or organizations
which use the park on an extended use basis to purchase liability
insurance because of the amount of exposure to the City.
As a result of the Commission discussion on this item, Commissioner
Stack moved that, at this time, the Commission rescind that part
of the prior motion requiring the Temple City Creative Arts to file
an insurance certificate. Commissioner Adams seconded the motion,
Chairman Seibert called for a moll call vote, which showed the
following results: Commissioner Adams, Yes; Commissioner Andrews,
Yes; Commissioner Stack, Yes; Chairman Seibert, No. The motion
passed with a 3 -1 vote,
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Commissioner Stack moved to recommend to the City Council that the
liability insurance requirement for the use of City recreation
facilities at Live Oak Park by Temple City Creative Arts, be waived.
Commissioner Adams seconded the motion. Chairman Seibert called
for a roll call vote, which showed the following results: Com-
missioner Adams, Yes; Commissioner Andrews, Yes; Commissioner Stack,
Yes; Chairman Seibert, No. The motion passed with a 3 -1 vote.
Director Kobett was requested to contact Mrs. Judy Magnella,
of Temple City Creative Arts to inform her that subsequent to
her appearance at the Parks and Recreation Commission meeting, the
Commission reconsidered their decision that Creative Arts should
be required to supply a certificate of insurance to the City, and
that the Commission suggests that Creative Arts not obtain the
insurance for the City until action is taken on the Commission's
recommendation to the City Council.
B Commissioner Andrews inquired if a sign has been placed at Live
Oak Park indicating that work on the park development has begun.
In answer to his inquiry, Director Kobett replied that the Depart - •
meat is in the process of posting such a sign and is hopeful of
having it completed before the end of the month,
C Chairman Seibert announced his resignation from the Parks and
Recreation Commission, effective on January 31, 1976 to accept an
appointment to the Planning Commission.
Coiiuilissioner Stack commended Chairman Seibert on an outstanding
job as a member and Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Commissioner Adams and Commissioner Andrews also commended Chair-
man Seibert for his service on the Parks and Recreation Commission
and congratulated him on his appointment to the Planning Commis -
sion.
12, ADJOURNMENT:
COmmissioner Stack moved to adjourn to the next regular meeting on
Wednesday, February 18, 1976 at 7030 p.m. in the Council Chambers
of the. City Hall, 5938 North Kauffman Avenue, Temple City. Motion
seconded by Commissioner Andrews and passed.
Chairman Seibert adjourned the meetin °50 p.m.
ATTEST:
Chai m
City Clerk