HomeMy Public PortalAbout050_012_Paver Testing Dianne Otto
From: Downer Davis [dkdbus @gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:46 AM
To: Dianne Otto
Subject: Re: FW: tim ramaker compliance letter
Following receipt of this email with the attached compliance letter I visited the site. Based on my observations and to
the best of my knowledge, I found the site to be compliant with the exception of the driveway pavers.
The pavers are not compliant with the ordinances under which the permit was issued. The pavers are not Ecostone nor
or they equal with regard to permeability. The new ordinance requires only that it be,"... constructed of materials
designed to allow retention of the first one-inch of strormwater." I have not conducted the detailed
infiltration/permeability test I explained in emails last Fall. Even with the porous base the GC advised was placed
beneath the pavers, the traditional look pavers did not appear to be receiving any infiltration when I ran the water hose
over it.
As I advised the City Council last Fall, as the State now has guidelines which place the burden of water quality on
larger projects, I am not promoting any permeability requirements on projects in the City of Tybee of this nature.
However, in fulfillment of my role as plan reviewer and inspector on this project, I advise that I have no basis on which
to approve these pavers as holding and passing even the first 1" of stormwater runoff.
I will await direction from the City prior to taking further action on this project.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Dianne Otto <Dotto@cityoftybee.org>wrote:
Downer—See attachment. This is for the lot at 1112 Laurel Avenue.
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From: Mark Boswell [mailto:lahbos(abellsouth.ni
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:13 PM
To: Dianne Otto
Subject: tim ramaker compliance letter
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From: Diane Schleicher
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:11 AM
To: Dianne Otto
Subject: Driveways and Water Test
Importance: High
Dianne,
It was brought to my attention that the Planning and Zoning Department is still conducting water tests on driveways if the
driveways were permitted prior to the change in the ordinance. If property owners benefit from a change in an ordinance, all
property owners should be given that benefit especially if it is the city council's intent on making the change island wide
regardless of the status of their permit
The mayor and city council enacted a moratorium to such test and enforcement of the ordinance on the books related to
driveways prior to changing to ordinance itself because the majority of the council wanted the ordinance changed.The mayor
and city council has now made their decision by changing the ordinance which is a directive to me and the city staff. I expect yoL
to follow this and to direct the city engineer to do the same.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks, Diane
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Dianne Otto
From: - Diane Schleicher
Sent: Tuesday, March 26. 2013 11:45 AM
To: Dianne Otto
Subject: FW: Driveways and Water Test
Importance: High
Dianne,
If any water test have been conducted in error, please do not invoice the property owner for Mr. Davis time.
Thanks, Diane
Dianne Otto
From: Downer Davis [dkdbus @gmail.coma
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:39 PM
To: Dianne Otto
Subject: Single-family driveway inspections
Ms. Otto,
In response to the City Manager's email of March 26, 2013 11:45 AM:
1) The project in question of Laurel Avenue has been invoiced. Only 1/2 hour was invoiced a
couple of days ago for my postconstruction site visit to evaluate conformance of drainage to
the permit. All can be assured that I did not invoice for water testing or my time involved in
the matter of evaluating conformance of driveways as it relates to City permeability
requirements. I contacted your office prior to formally responding the results of my site
inspection. No other projects should be of concern on this matter.
In response to the City Manager's email of March 21, 2013 11 : 11AM:
2) I concur that projects should benefit from the latest ordinance changes. My reason for
asking regarding this project is that I do not have the authority to make such permit
decisions.
3) I was not aware of a moratorium on water tests and enforcement regarding permeability of
driveway materials. At this point it does not matter as the City Manager's direction not to
enforce or water test the permeability of driveways is a directive that I understand.
As I am not to question the permeability of driveways during inspection and project closeout, I
am not aware of a benefit of my including permeability of driveways in my plan review of
single-family projects. Therefore, I will cease permeability related review on single-family
projects. it is my understanding my review and inspection on commercial projects will not
change.
Please confirm I understand correctly or advise otherwise.
Thank you,
Downer