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HomeMy Public PortalAboutMinutes - 1995/09/20 - Regular" INITIATION: PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION TEMPLE CITY, CALIFORNIA MINUTES SEPTEMBER 20, 1995 7:30 P.M. 1. CALL TO ORDER: Pursuant to the agenda posted on September 14, 1995, Chairman Broge called the meeting of the Parks & Recreation Commission to order at 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, September 20, 1995. 2. ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Commissioner - Adams, Broge, Caswell, Sternquist and Crump ABSENT: None ALSO PRESENT: Director Chadwick, Supervisor Burroughs, Director Hart and Public Services Superintendent Hyatt 3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Led by Chairman Broge 4. TIME FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK: None. 5. CONSENT CALENDAR: Commissioner Caswell requested item A removed from the Consent Calendar. On motion by Commissioner Crump and seconded by Commissioner Caswell the Consent Calendar was unanimously approved as corrected. B. MONTHLY ATTENDANCE REPORT Commission received the Attendance /Activity Report for the month of July and August, 1995. A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES for regular meeting of July 19, 1995 and Special Meetings of August 31 and September 6, 1995. Commissioner Caswell requested the minutes from July 19 to reflect on page 7, fourth paragraph from the bottom, Mr. Kobett not Director Kobett. On motion by Commissioner Crump and seconded by Commissioner Caswell, the Minutes from the regular meeting of July 19, 1995, was approved as corrected, and approved the minutes of the Special Meetings of August 31 and September 6, 1995 approved as submitted. 6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS: A. SET DATE FOR STUDY SESSION WITH BANDSTAND COMMITTEE. Director Chadwick stated City Council requested Commission to schedule a date to meet with members of the Bandstand Committee to discuss the status of the project. " PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION 1VIINUTES Page 2 September 20, 1995 Commission agreed to adjourn this meeting to a study session on Wednesday, September 27, at 7:00 p.m. Chairman Broge requested Commission to call her or Director Chadwick to compile items for discussion for the study session. Commissioner Caswell stated he felt the bandstand should be half the size meaning a half circle. Commissioner Adams requested that the committee bring the plans for the bandstand that was first presented to the Commission. Chairman Broge stated that these questions will be answered by the committee at the study session. Commissioner Crump stated the committee has a presentation prepared for the Commission that should answer their questions. 7. NEW BUSINESS: A. CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP PARK MASTER PLANS FOR LIVE OAK PARK AND TEMPLE CITY PARK. Public Services Director Hart requested Commission to approve consideration of a proposal from Berryman and Henigar for the City to develop master plans for Live Oak Park and Temple City Park. He stated there are significant improvement projects being planned for Temple City Park and Live Oak Park. The most significant is the building of a new recreation center at Live Oak Park and discussion for a bandstand project in Temple City Park. His department is considering irrigation improvements, future improvements, to address other park facilities. In order to determine how to proceed with the improvements the park master plan would give staff an approach to completion of projects. Staff determined that a project by project approach was not a cost effective method. Director Hart and his staff have met with Council approved consultants, Berryman and Henigar, to discuss a park master plan project. Director Hart felt a master plan would be a comprehensive systematic approach to park improvements. A plan would determine the immediate improvements, future needs, and other appurtenances to the park facility. At this time he introduced Dick Fisher from Berryman and Henigar to explain the process and schedule of the master plan. He requested Commission to make a recommendation to City Council to proceed with the master plan after the presentation. Commissioner Crump asked if funding was from CIP funds. Director Hart stated there are several funding sources that will be determined by City Council. He is requesting Commission to be supportive of the proposal and make a recommendation to City CounciL Staff will go to Council with the Commission's recommendation and a staff report that will identify funding sources. Dick Fisher, Senior Vice President, Berryman and Henigar, formally BSI Consultants, stated his background experience with parks and recreation in California. He addressed . the issue of the irrigation system projects stating if a project by project approach was taken, sidewalks would need to be moved with the addition of other • • • " PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page 3 September 20, 1995 " amenities and the new system may need to be modified. This will open the City to criticism from the community. He began with the master plan for Temple City Park stating he previously provided consulting to the this park. His company has provided design sketches of site improvements around the Bandstand and around the area in the southeast corner of the park. He identified other areas in the Temple City Park such as lighting, the playground area; the picnic facilities; and pedestrian circulation that a park master plan would review. He explained the steps of the master plan process for Temple City Park and Live Oak Park. The process described by Mr. Fisher involves the active participation by the Commission and the public in the development of the master plan. He stated it is a fourteen week process which includes a kick off meeting with staff; preparation of a site plan to include improvements; staff meeting with the Parks & Recreation Commission to receive comments; then the concept will be presented to Council and Commission as a workshop session. A finalized master plan will be developed to include a price out in today dollars to do all improvements in funding phases and reasons for the conclusions will be presented to Council. The process for Live Oak Park will be similar to Temple City Park. They will be looking at modifying parking lots size to accommodate more cars; on street parking along Gracewood to incorporate diagonal parking to include moving a fire hydrant; lighting of four tennis courts; playground renovation to bring up to current standards based on the type of recreation activities; upgrading the easterly concession building by showing a layout of ground space needed for adding restrooms. Also an evaluation of the group picnic shelter areas and their relationship to the adjoining neighbors, active recreation areas and shade areas. These upgrades would be in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act criteria. Next they would look at the sport fields layout and upgrading the lighting and possibly future backlighting of the soccer fields by providing better uniform lighting at a lower cost. And finally the overall pedestrian circulation. Mr. Fisher presented the chart for Live Oak Park. He stated this park is more involved with more users than Temple City Park. This timeline would include community input to prepare the site plan; kick off meeting; review by Commission and fmal review workshop session with City Council to finalize the master plan. The final summary report will be the same as Temple City Park. They are aware the recreation center is in final design and will take consideration of the project in the report. The master plan will provide a tool for staff to pursue outside funding sources. Commissioner Sternquist stated the Commission has been working on the bandstand project and the facility at Live Oak Park. Although she feels the need for a systematic approach to developing the park, she stated the new facility at Live Oak Park would take first order of consideration. She asked if both master plans would be developed at the same time. Mr. Fisher stated they would be completed concurrently, but will move as fast as Commission and Council requests. Director Hart stated staff deal with various conflicts and priorities to complete work in the most efficient and cost effective manner The master plan is the best approach to provide PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page 4 September 20, 1995 the type of planning to the organization and has some cost savings in not using multiple contractors and duplicate work. The report will lend itself to more organization and continuity when staff brings projects on line. Commissioner Sternquist asked how the bandstand would be part of the master plan if it did not happen. Mr. Fisher clarified the original site plan does not include the bandstand. When Council focuses on future projects a bandstand would be included as part of the master plan. Mr. Fisher indicated they could be of assistance to evaluate the size of the bandstand based on the number of people who might be performing in an orchestra. Mr. Fisher stated they have developed the design sketches of improvements around the bandstand. Commissioner Crump asked Director Hart in reference to the September 19, City Council meeting, stated Council was concerned on the cost of the study. Director Hart stated there were other considerations that influenced the council on the feasibility study and concerns for additional costs. He feels this master plan is an effective management plan that is flexible and will save money in the long term. Commissioner Caswell stated in theory it is a good idea for a large corporation that has money. He feels consulting fees of $44,000 is excessive. Most of the areas addressed in the master plan have been studied. Reference was made to the lights on the tennis courts and the irrigation systems. He is not against the master plan but cannot invest another $44,000 in a study plan unless it will be used. There have been study plans on the park that have not been used. He wanted to know when will the plan be used or will it be put on a shelf. Mr. Fisher stated the play equipment will need renovation because it does not meet ADA standards. Also if the irrigation system design is upgraded this year it will be installed to irrigate turf around existing improvements. If those improvement areas are modified then the irrigation system will need modification which will cause interruption to the system. With the study, a system can be designed that would operate in a particular area that later can be abandoned with no down time to the system or cost for repairs. The master plan can save the City money. He understands how the community can be critical when government spends for planning and does not use it. He understood the City wanted to move forward and complete the improvements because of limited facilities to serve the community. He stated this plan will enable staff to be sure that the projects are not in conflict with each other. Commissioner Caswell stated comments he receives are from the seniors in the community that ask why do we have staff if we are going to hire consultants. He feels staff can do the master plan. Director Hart indicated the City is a small organization that does, not contain a specialist only generalists that do not have enough expertise to do the project. He felt staff did not want to attempt something that is less than adequate. Commissioner. Adams concurred with Commissioner Caswell stating the community center is a costly project and was not in favor of spending up to another $45,000 for a study. • PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page 5 • September 20, 1995 • • Commissioner Crump stated it has been known for the last ten years that the irrigation system was in need to be revamped. He feels that the report is a lot of money but if the irrigation system needed to be torn up when replacing the playground equipment it would be counter productive. He supports the development of the master plan and has faith that City Council will follow up on the master plan when planning future CIP projects. Director Hart indicated there are several projects costing hundred of thousands of dollars depending upon the completion of the master plan. The proposal of the master plan was to save money not to spend money. He feels the City will spend more than $40,000 to piece mill the projects together because of redundancy, multiple contracts, contractors and continuity in planning. Chairman Broge asked Director Hart if anyone has given the master plan any thought that is in existence now. Director Hart indicated the master plans were very basic and improvements identified in those plans are no longer being contemplated. Chairman Broge asked how does the Commission or Council have a guarantee, unlike those forgotten master plans, this one will not be forgotten. Director Hart stated a master plan will include many actual projects: new community center, a new irrigation system, and park wide ADA federal requirements, that are budgeted this year and will be constructed this year. Chairman Broge asked why does the City need to spend $44,000 for a master plan if all the projects in the future are known. She stated the Commission asked three years ago for a schedule of projects and did not receive a response. Director Hart indicated staff will begin the $125,000 irrigation project in a matter of weeks. Chairman Broge asked if Director Hart has spoken with the park users about the plan to begin the irrigation project within a few weeks. She stated there are over a 1,000 users in the park scheduled for use until March, 1996. Director Hart indicated there is a process including planning engineering, plans and specifications and a whole process before the project will start. The construction may not begin till May. Chairman Broge asked why is staff doing the irrigation system now, why not wait until the bandstand and community center projects are completed. Then prepare a master plan. Director Hart indicated the master plan will include the projected bandstand and community center. He indicated City Council wants the irrigation improvement finished this year. Chairman Broge asked if Siteworks has been consulted to work with Berryman and Henigar during the drawing and layout for the community center at Live Oak Park. Director Hart stated they will probably want to work with Berryman and Henigar to give input in the master plan. Commissioner Sternquist stated when Commission had their meetings with Siteworks for development of the community center, the building was proposed around the existing playing fields, picnic shelters, and pedestrian circulation areas. Those elements have been worked into the design of the new facility. She felt maybe staff should be looking at the ADA requirements for the picnic shelters and playground equipment. She added the Cal - Poly staff studied the parking and felt there was enough for the size of the building. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page.6 September 20, 1995 . ** Mr. Fisher stated that all the planning would be done in concert with each other. He was aware of the design charretts with the planning of the community center. The challenge was with the architect of the building to provide rooms for the City programs. He feels the building will get more use as a new building, also the report will include the concurrent intense use by sports groups on the fields, the picnic activities, other events on the park, and activity generated in the area of the play equipment. Siteworks scope of work was not an entire park site evaluation. Commissioner Caswell asked if the master plan includes schematics for the layout and size of pipe for the irrigation system. He feels there is a need for a schematic not a report to tell staff where to locate improvements. Mr. Fisher stated the design of the irrigation system is independent of the master plan. The plan will tell the contractor where the main line and valves are if under turf or concrete. Mr. Fisher stated the master plan is a systematic way for staff to approach projects not a schematic. Director Chadwick indicated the advantage for the master plan is the community input. He felt the community center project has come a long way because of community involvement. This report will help to identify the community's need for recreation facilities and will help direct the City to meet those needs for the next five to eight years. Chairman Broge stated the City has a park and no one is complaining about the facilities located on the park. She stated there are required modifications and replacement of the irrigation system but no one has asked for lights in the tennis courts or to redo the parking along Glickman nor move the programs to another area. She stated "if it's not broken why fix it." She asked why spend $44,000 to create a master plan and build a new park when we have a good park now. She did not want to rush into a decision when this was her first exposure to the request. Commissioner Adams made a motion to delay a recommenda -tion to City Council until Commission has more time to study the need for a master plan for Temple City and Live Oak Parks, seconded by Commissioner Caswell. Commissioner Caswell felt the City doesn't need another report if the only worry is pouring cement over pipes and possible removal in the future. Schematics would provide size of wiring for the lights on the tennis courts and where to put the fuse boxes to hook it into the new building. Commissioner Crump stated the master plan would provide a layout on where these type of improvements would go. Director Hart expressed staff's concern on proceeding with this report if Commission needs more study time. He feels it necessary to bring the item before City Council at a sooner date. He will make the Council aware of the Commission concerns and discussion. He thanked Commission for their input and position on this matter and did not want to offend the Commission by going to the Council. He wanted Commission to know it is important enough where he can delay no longer. • • • " " PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES ; Page 7 September 20, 1995 Chairman Broge stated over two years ago she asked about the irrigation project at Live Oak Park and when it would be completed and never got a response. Now she was informed the project will start in less than a month. She stated if the project is that urgent, and has to be started in the next thirty days, the Commission should have been notified before now. Director Hart asked if Commission has seen a copy of the CIP. Chairman Broge stated Commission has reviewed the projects. Director Hart indicated that the irrigation project was scheduled for completion last year and felt he has been remiss for not informing Commission on projects planned. Director Hart indicated the project has been delayed due to proposed construction of the bandstand and a community center. He feels staff has received input from the Commission that will be brought to Council's attention. Director Hart stated he is aware of the concerns of the expense and not moving too quickly before there is more time to look at all that information. He stated there is a sense of urgency and policy direction from Council to move forward. After the discussion the roll call was taken as follows: Roll Call: AYES: Commissioners Adams, Caswell, Sternquist and Broge NOES: Commissioner Crump ABSENT: No one Commissioner Caswell wanted to clarify his position that all projects are worthwhile but because the City will receive a report and not schematics the City will still need to hire someone to prepare that information. Chairman Broge requested that Commission be notified whether or not staff will be bringing the item before City Council. Director Hart stated he will make the staff report available to Commission. He stated if Commission plans a study session, he would be happy to work with the them in any way possible to supply them with information. He thanked Commission for their time and allowing them to present this item to them. Director Chadwick requested that Commissioners contact either him or the Commission Chair with questions about the master plan project or request information that would help the Commission with this item. B. REPORT ON JOINT MEETING OF AUGUST 14 BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE COMMISSION CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN. Chairman Broge stated the report summarizing the points of discussion and conclusions reached at a meeting between the Commission Chairman and Vice Chairman and the Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem were included in their packet. She asked if anyone had questions about the report. Commissioner Crump asked how the parking problem at Longden School got into the report. Commissioner Adams stated the City Manager was taking notes and included all the comments from the meeting. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page 8 September 20, 1995 ** Commissioner Caswell made a motion to receive and file the report on the joint meeting of August 14 between the Mayor and Mayor Pro -tem and the Commission Chairman and Vice Chairman, seconded by Commissioner Crump, and unanimously approved. C. YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPORT. Director Chadwick stated Chairman Broge and Commissioner Sternquist were involved on the Youth Advisory Subcommittee to establish a Youth Advisory Committee. He reported the committee met a number of times to discuss their purpose of a Teen or Youth Committee. Also they made a trip to Claremont to view their Teen Committee meeting. Director Chadwick indicated he met with students at Temple City High School and did not receive an overwhelming response for a Committee. They requested bringing ideas or suggestions to their student body on a as needed basis. • Commissioner Sternquist stated she replaced Commissioner Adams on the Committee. She met with the students and felt there was not enough enthusiasm on their part for the formation of a Teen Committee. They were questioning what was the purpose of the Teen Committee. She indicated none of the students showed up at the last meeting. She felt juniors and seniors in high school are involved with school and are so overwhelmed with commitments for their future goals they do not have time for a commitment for a Commission. She suggested focusing on the junior high school. She feels this age is not too young to state what they would like in the community and what their peers would like. Chairman Broge concurred with Commissioner Sternquist and Director Chadwick. She • stated it appears there is no interest from the youth that they have tried to recruit to the Committee. For now, until there is a focused topic or item for those youths in the community to interact on, she feels there is no need for a Committee. Commissioner Adams commended Commissioner Sternquist and Chairman Broge stating that if a Committee would have been formed their enthusiasm and excitement would have made it happen. Chairman Broge stated Commission will receive and file the report. D. REVIEW APPLICATION FROM PHILIPPINE TENNIS CLUB FOR USE OF THE LIVE OAK PARK TENNIS COURTS ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 14, 1995, FOR A SOCIAL TOURNAMENT. Supervisor Burroughs stated in the Commission packet was an application from the Philippine Tennis Club for use of the tennis courts for a social tournament. She requested Commission to review the application and provide staff with direction. ** Supervisor Burroughs received a roster and by -laws from the club. The roster did not reflect a membership of 75% Temple City residents therefore did not qualify as a Temple City organization. Commissioner Adams made a motion to deny the application from Philippine Tennis Club for use of the Live Oak Park Tennis Courts on Saturday, October 14, 1995 for a social tournament. Seconded by Commissioner Caswell and unanimously approved. Chairman Broge requested staff to include in the letter of denial they may use the courts on a first come first serve basis. • PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page 9 • September 20, 1995 8. COMMUNICATIONS: None 9. ADDITIONAL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE: None 10. MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS: A. ** ** COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT. Commissioner Crump made a motion to receive and file the Directors Report, seconded by Commissioner Caswell and unanimously approved. Commissioner Sternquist extended an invitation to the Commission to attend the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority Eastern Region open house fiesta at El Monte Operation Facility, 3449 Santa Anita Ave., Saturday, September 23, 1995, 12 noon to 6 p.m. The open house would include pinatas, free tours of the bus yard, prizes and refreshments. A reservation was requested for those attending. Director Chadwick announced that he has accepted a position as Community Services Director for the City of La Puente effective October 11. Commissioner Adams made a motion that Director Chadwick be commended for his outstanding job performance in the past three years and congratulated him in his future career endeavors, seconded by Commissioner Crump and unanimously approved. • Commissioner Caswell asked when the Commission will receive schematics not a report on the master plan for Live Oak Park. He felt $44,000 should provide schematics. Public Services Superintendent Hyatt stated the master plan would be similar to the design schemes presented to Commission from Siteworks on the proposed building at Live Oak Park. Commissioner Caswell stated that some of the improvements are redundant to what information is known. Commissioner Crump stated today was his birthday. Everyone wished him a happy birthday. Commissioner Caswell added his birthday will be in three days. Commissioner Sternquist wished good luck to Director Chadwick. She added her best to Chairman Broge's husband in his recovery. Chairman Broge concurred with the Commissioners on wishing Director Chadwick good luck in his new position. She thanked staff and Commission for all their good wishes and prayers for her husband's recovery. Director Chadwick has a request from American Youth Soccer Organization for their opening day ceremonies on the next weekend. They have requested volunteers to judge banners. Director Chadwick volunteered again and requested the chairman to volunteer 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. on Saturday to judge banners at Live Oak Park. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES Page 10 September 20, 1995 11. ADJOURNMENT: Attest: There being no further business, it was moved by Commissioner Adams and seconded by Commissioner Crump and unanimously carried that the meeting be adjourned to a study session of the Parks & Recreation Commission to be held on September 27, 1995, at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room, 9701 Las Tunas Drive, Temple City. Chairman Broge adjourned the meeting at 9:18 p.m. Secretary ,// Chairman • •