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HomeMy Public PortalAboutRita Taylor Deposition1 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 15TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA CASE NO.: 50-2013-CA-018101-XXXX-MB-AO CHRISTOPHER F. O'HARE, Plaintiff, vs. TOWN OF GULF STREAM, Defendant. _________________________________/ 100 Sea Road Gulf Stream, Florida Friday, 9:00 a.m. April 7, 2017 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION of RITA TAYLOR, a witness herein, taken pursuant to the Rules and Notice hereinbefore filed, before SHAWN R. REMENAR, Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, at the Gulf Stream Town Hall, 100 Sea Road, Gulf Stream, Florida, on Friday, April 7, 2017, commencing at or about 9:00 a.m. 2 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 APPEARANCES: 2 LOUIS ROEDER, ESQUIRE 7414 Sparkling Lake Road 3 Orlando, Florida 32819 (407) 758-4194 4 Of Counsel On behalf of the Plaintiff 5 EDWARD (TREY) C. NAZZARO, ESQUIRE 6 100 Sea Road Gulf Stream, Florida 33483 7 (561) 276-5116 Of Counsel 8 On behalf of the Defendant 9 PRESENT: 10 RITA TAYLOR 11 Deponent 12 CHRISTOPHER F. O'HARE 13 WILLIAM H. THRASHER ICMA-CM, CGFO, CGFM 14 Town Manager 15 REPORTED BY: 16 SHAWN R. REMENAR 17 Court Reporter and Notary Public 18 101 Northeast 3rd Avenue Suite 1500 19 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 20 * * * * * * 21 22 23 24 25 3 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 I N D E X 2 WITNESS EXAMINATION PAGE 3 RITA TAYLOR Direct 4 4 (By Mr. Roeder) 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 E X H I B I T S 12 Exhibit No. 1 For Identification 13 13 Exhibit No. 2 14 For Identification 18 15 Exhibit No. 3 For Identification 19 16 Exhibit No. 4 17 For Identification 27 18 Exhibit No. 5 For Identification 28 19 Exhibit No. 6 20 For Identification 50 21 Exhibit No. 7 For Identification 53 22 Exhibit No. 8 23 For Identification 54 24 Exhibit No. 9 For Identification 55 25 4 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 MR. O'HARE: This is a video recording of 2 deposition of Rita Taylor in Christopher F. 3 O'Hare vs. Town of Gulf Stream, Case No.: CA 4 018101. This is being videotaped. The tape is 5 available to anyone who wants it after the 6 deposition. 7 THEREUPON: 8 RITA TAYLOR 9 having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified 10 as follows: 11 MR. ROEDER: I do. 12 DIRECT EXAMINATION 13 BY MR. ROEDER: 14 Q Good morning, Rita. 15 A Good morning. 16 Q Can you state your name for the record? 17 A Rita L. Taylor. 18 Q And your job position with the city of 19 Gulf Stream or town of Gulf Stream? 20 A Town clerk. 21 Q And address for the town? 22 A 100 Sea Road, S-e-a, Gulf Stream, two 23 words, Florida 33483. 24 Q Thank you. And you know if you have any 25 questions at all, we've been through this before. So 5 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 it's probably covering all ground. But if you have any 2 questions at all about the question that I've asked you, 3 please just, you know, interrupt me and ask for clari- 4 fication. 5 A (Witness nods head). 6 Q Try to answer to the best of your know- 7 ledge if you know. Attorney will tell you if you know, 8 say you know. But if you don't, say you don't know. 9 A (Witness nods head). 10 Q How long have you been employed with the 11 town of Gulf Stream? 12 A A little over twenty-seven years. 13 Q And you are the town clerk. 14 A I am. 15 Q Also the town supervisor of elections? 16 A Yes. 17 Q And when the town manager's away, do you 18 also assume some of his duties? 19 A Yes. 20 Q As part of your duties, do you participate 21 in the preparation of the agenda for the public meetings? 22 A Yes. 23 Q Do you participate in recording of minutes 24 of the public meetings? 25 A I do. 6 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q That--that's audio. Right? Is that audio 2 and video, or just audio? 3 A You mean my participation? 4 Q Or the meetings in general, they're done 5 in audio and video. 6 A Yes. 7 Q And your--your part is the audio portion. 8 A Yeah. 9 Q Okay. And do you supervise the processing 10 of permits? 11 A I supervise it. 12 Q Okay. Somebody else does it underneath 13 your supervision. 14 A Yes. 15 Q And do you participate in the straw 16 balloting for recent project to bury utility lines, that 17 type of stuff, too? 18 A Yes, um-hum. 19 Q And do you participate in the notice of 20 assessments to property owners for funding different 21 projects, or is that handled by somebody else? 22 A Well, if it's--if it's a city thing, not 23 the tax assessments or that sort of thing, not the ad 24 valorem. But any special assessments-- 25 Q Special assessments? 7 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A --or anything like that, yes. 2 Q I already did that one. 3 MR. O'HARE: Okay. 4 BY MR. ROEDER: 5 Q But when you're saying "special assess- 6 ments", an example of that would be the special assess- 7 ments for the recent undergrounding project. That's it. 8 That would be an example. 9 A Yes. 10 MR. NAZZARO: No, Lou. I appreciate your 11 line of questioning here. I know you have a 12 motion to dismiss on a sort of different case. 13 So as far as your trying to take discovery in a 14 related case that you have a hearing for next 15 week, I would just like you to sort of stay on 16 track with what this case is that we're here 17 for today. 18 MR. ROEDER: We're just trying to, at the 19 beginning here, just get a general feeling for 20 the whole compass of all of her duties as town 21 clerk and then how that relates to the public 22 records. But duly noted. 23 BY MR. ROEDER: 24 Q Did you--as town clerk, did you partici- 25 pate in the recent annexation? 8 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A Sure. 2 Q Okay. And do you participate in the 3 preparation of any code enforcement actions? 4 A Yes. 5 Q Okay. Again, I'm just trying to get a 6 general idea of everything that you do, which seems to be 7 a lot. And you're also then the custodian of public 8 records for the town of Gulf Stream. 9 A Yes. 10 Q Okay. Can you describe for me in--in your 11 own words what a public record is? 12 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 13 THE WITNESS: It's a--documents that are 14 used in the various things that towns do with 15 the public. 16 BY MR. ROEDER: 17 Q And as custodian of the public records, 18 what are your specific responsibilities as you understand 19 them? 20 A Well, to--to maintain them, produce them 21 when asked, destroy them when it's time. That's, basi- 22 cally, it. 23 Q And as far as those responsibilities, do 24 you supervise other people who help you on those-- 25 A I do. 9 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q --fulfilling those responsibilities? And 2 who are those people who assist you today? 3 A Renee, and Rebecca, and-- 4 Q That's Renee-- 5 A Basal. 6 Q --Basal and Rebecca? 7 A Tew, T-e-w. 8 Q Okay. 9 A And then we have a temp-- 10 Q And a temp? 11 A --who helps with them. 12 Q And that temp is--could be different from 13 week-to-week. 14 A Well, we're pretty lucky. Most of the 15 time, they stay several months. But we've had several in 16 the past three years. 17 Q Do you have a name for the existing temp 18 today? 19 A Dee--I think it's Dina. I don't know what 20 her last name is. 21 Q Has anybody ever told you that they don't 22 want to assist with public records? 23 A Oh, yeah. 24 Q Who, specifically? 25 A Well, we had two ladies that--that quit 10 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 because they were too stressed with the public records. 2 And that was Kelly Avery and--and Freda. I forget her 3 last name. 4 Q Defosse? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Did they, either one or both of them, 7 submit anything in writing as to why they quit? 8 A I don't remember if they did or not. 9 Q And has Ms. Basal or Ms. Tew--I assume 10 it's Rebecca Tew. Ms.--it's okay. I'll refer to them as 11 Ms. Ms. Tew or Ms. Basal, has either one of them ex- 12 pressed any dissatisfaction with the--satisfaction with 13 assisting in public records? 14 A Not so far. 15 Q Why is that? 16 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 17 THE WITNESS: I don't know why. I'm 18 tickled to death they haven't. 19 BY MR. ROEDER: 20 Q Well, I'm just trying to understand that 21 Ms. Avery and Ms. Defosse quit because of it. I'm just 22 wondering why. 23 A Well, they were at it for a longer time 24 than what these two are. 25 Q So--but nobody--neither one of those, 11 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 neither Ms. Basal nor Ms. Tew has ever expressed any 2 dissatisfaction regarding assisting with the production 3 of public records. 4 A Not to me, they haven't. 5 Q And you're--you're the supervisor. So 6 there's nothing you've heard from them regarding that. 7 A No. 8 Q Okay. Do you have a temporary worker 9 named Jones? Is that Dina? Is that her name, Dina 10 Jones? 11 A It could be, but I can't say for sure 12 because I don't remember. 13 Q We're specifically trying to find out who 14 was a temporary worker in that last November. 15 A I don't remember the date she started 16 here. 17 Q So you have any idea who the temp may have 18 been last November of 2016? 19 A It may have been her, but I'm not sure. 20 MR. NAZZARO: Lou, again this is a public 21 records request from 2013. So I'd just like to 22 keep you on track a little bit. I have no 23 objection to you asking questions generally of 24 Ms. Taylor. 25 But as far as what the town was doing in 12 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 2016, the time period that's relevant to this 2 request, I believe, is 2013 where the request 3 was received and responded to during that time 4 frame. So we're talking about a number of 5 years later, you know, just for expediency 6 purpose. 7 MR. ROEDER: Well, duly noted, but at the 8 hearings, we keep hearing a narrative about 9 what's happened since 2013. So we're just 10 trying to get down, plug--plug down the 11 narrative as to--we didn't bring it up. It's 12 been brought up in all the hearings what's 13 happened since 2013. 14 BY MR. ROEDER: 15 Q So you all know who were--who was actually 16 your temp in November of 2016. Was Ms. Defosse assisting 17 you with record requests in September of 2013? 18 A I don't remember if that--she could have 19 been. 20 Q We're just trying to get a handle on--we 21 had seen a response back from the clerk in 2013. Is that 22 something that was handled by you, or would that be 23 handled by Ms. Defosse or who else? 24 A It could have been me, or it could have 25 been either of the other ladies that were here at the 13 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 time. 2 Q Do you understand the--the public records 3 request that's the subject of this complaint right now 4 that we're talking about? 5 A Say it again. 6 Q Do you understand the subject matter of 7 the existing public records request? 8 A It's something to do with pictures, I 9 thought. 10 MR. ROEDER: Okay. I want to go ahead and 11 introduce this here as Exhibit--Exhibit 1. 12 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 13 were marked as Exhibit No. 1 for identification) 14 BY MR. ROEDER: 15 Q Just have you take a look at that. Just 16 take your time. So you finished? 17 A Sure. 18 Q So what exactly is the--the subject matter 19 of that public records request? 20 A You want any pictures of George Elmore's 21 property that we have. 22 Q Okay. And that is the subject of the 23 complaint here today as far as you know. 24 A That's all it says in here. 25 Q Okay. Well, I'll get to that in a minute. 14 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 So you--do you know whether or not Ms. Defosse worked for 2 the town at the time this public records request was 3 made? 4 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 5 THE WITNESS: I don't--I don't remember 6 the dates that she started or left. She could 7 have been. 8 BY MR. ROEDER: 9 Q So how would we or how would you determine 10 who was actually handling the public records at that 11 point in time, November of 2016, or here at the date of 12 this request in September of 2013? How would you find 13 out who was actually handling the request? 14 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 15 THE WITNESS: Well, it could have been any 16 of us ladies that were here. And I would have 17 to look at the employment records to see who 18 was working at the--that particular time. But 19 I wouldn't know exactly if--even if I knew what 20 dates everybody was here, I still wouldn't 21 particularly know that one person was looking 22 for a particular record because we sort of all 23 work together. 24 BY MR. ROEDER: 25 Q So we wouldn't be able to--so what you're 15 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 telling me, there's no way of really finding out who 2 particularly handled this public records request in 3 September of 2013. 4 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 5 THE WITNESS: Probably--probably not. 6 BY MR. ROEDER: 7 Q Getting back to Ms. Defosse, you said that 8 she--don't mean to put words in your mouth. But para- 9 phrasing, you said she left because of the pressure from 10 the public records request. 11 A Yeah. 12 Q What exactly did she tell you why she was 13 leaving? 14 A Because of the stress from--that was 15 placed on her having to deal with public records, and 16 also she had other duties to perform as well. 17 Q But she specifically said that the--or one 18 of the reasons that she was leaving was because of public 19 records, the stress. 20 A The main reason, yeah. 21 Q Main reason? Do you have anything in 22 writing to that effect? 23 MR. NAZZARO: Object, form. 24 THE WITNESS: I don't know if we do or 25 not. I don't remember. 16 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 BY MR. ROEDER: 2 Q Are you aware that she said that she gave 3 the city a letter of resignation? 4 A If she did, then we've got it, but I don't 5 remember. 6 Q And who did you replace Ms. Defosse with? 7 A I--I guess it was Rebecca, I reckon. 8 Q Rebecca, not Kelly Avery? 9 A No. Kelly was here longer than--Kelly was 10 here the same time that Freda was here. 11 Q And you said "for other reasons". Let me 12 rephrase that here. You said, "Ms. Defosse left for a 13 number of reasons, the main one of which was the stress 14 from the public records." What were some of the other 15 reasons she gave for leaving? 16 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 17 THE WITNESS: Well, the--the stress of the 18 work. She did other things besides public 19 records. 20 BY MR. ROEDER: 21 Q Now Ms. Tew, she's a temporary who handled 22 the--she a temporary? No. She's not one of the 23 temporaries. 24 A No. 25 Q Ms. Tew, she's one of the regular-- 17 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A Right. 2 Q And what's her first name again? 3 A Rebecca. 4 Q Rebecca, you say Rebecca Tew replaced 5 Defosse. 6 A Um-hum. 7 Q Did she have the same duties as Defosse? 8 A No. They changed. They changed some. 9 Q She had more or less. 10 A Well, just redistributed some of it. We 11 gave the public records--Freda's public records work to 12 Kelly. And some of Kelly's work then went to Freda or 13 Rebecca. 14 Q As far as capability, are Ms. Defosse and 15 Ms. Tew, basically, just as capable as far as public 16 records, responsive? 17 A As far as I can see, they're all capable. 18 Q So if somebody submits a public records 19 request, and they needed or wanted to know who was 20 actually handling it, you can't tell them who's actually 21 handling it. 22 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 23 THE WITNESS: Not really because we've all 24 got a finger in it. 25 BY MR. ROEDER: 18 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q Then help me understand. If everybody has 2 a finger in it, everybody works for you. And there's 3 either two people plus a temp working for you handling 4 public records. How would one person get stressed out? 5 A Because there was so much of it, and they 6 tried to turn it out as quickly as possible. And that-- 7 that adds a lot of stress. 8 Q Then explain to me why one person would 9 quit because of the stress and another person wouldn't. 10 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 11 THE WITNESS: Well, different people have 12 different hangups, I guess. Or some people can 13 stand more stress than others. Why I don't 14 know. 15 BY MR. ROEDER: 16 Q You never seem to be stressed. At least, 17 you don't show it. That's not a question. 18 A No. 19 Q That's just--it's a comment. Let me see 20 here. 21 MR. ROEDER: I have Exhibit 2. You might 22 want to go off the record to label this one. 23 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 24 were marked as Exhibit No. 2 for identification) 25 (Whereupon, a brief, informal discussion 19 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 was held off the record.) 2 BY MR. ROEDER: 3 Q Let's see, one, two, here it is. Can you 4 look at this Rita and tell me what it is? 5 A It's a reply to a public records request, 6 an acknowledgement of receiving it, basically. 7 Q Is it actually a response to the public 8 records request in Exhibit 1? 9 A Yes, it is. 10 Q I'll come back to this one. 11 MR. O'HARE: What's that? 12 MR. ROEDER: I'll come back to this one. 13 MR. O'HARE: Okay. 14 MR. ROEDER: And here you want to go off 15 record. This is Exhibit No. 3. 16 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 17 were marked as Exhibit No. 3 for identification) 18 BY MR. ROEDER: 19 Q I'll give you this. Oh, one second, give 20 you that, Rita. That's what's been labeled as Exhibit 21 No. 3. Can you tell me what that is please? 22 A Yeah. This is a reply that would have 23 been sent as a result of this public records request 24 advising that no such records exist. 25 Q Okay. Does it specifically say who the 20 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 author is of it or what--excuse me. Let me rephrase 2 that. What does it list as the author of the letter? 3 A Well, they all say "Sincerely, Town Clerk, 4 Custodian of the Records". That's me. 5 Q So if it's anybody other than you, which I 6 think in previous answers you've given that other people 7 could be handling it. If it's seen by other than you, 8 there's no way of knowing who that might be. 9 A That's right. It's one of the other two. 10 Q And are you--are you aware as part of your 11 knowledge of public records, the public records law, that 12 there's a requirement that the custodian notify, request, 13 or if someone else were responsive to public records 14 request besides the custodian? 15 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 16 THE WITNESS: Well, we are putting that on 17 there now. But back then, we didn't. 18 BY MR. ROEDER: 19 Q So now you have--whoever the specific 20 responder is, you're saying now you actually do that, but 21 back--back then you didn't. So no one ever informed Mr. 22 O'Hare that anybody different other than you was actually 23 handling this public records request. 24 A No. 25 Q And all you know right now as you--based 21 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 on what you have in front of you and your knowledge, 2 basically, you can't say who specifically handled this 3 public records request. 4 A We may have all looked. It's a small 5 office. 6 Q So as you sit here today, you did not. Or 7 do you recall whether or not you actually searched for 8 this record? Or do you know for sure that somebody else 9 searched for it? 10 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 11 THE WITNESS: I vaguely recall this, and 12 I'm sure that we discussed it amongst ourselves 13 as we did most of them. If somebody couldn't 14 find it we'd say, "Does anybody know where else 15 to look?" But to say one person, no, I can't 16 say that. 17 BY MR. ROEDER: 18 Q So what you're saying is you all came to 19 the conclusion that no record existed, but only after 20 making a good faith effort to try and find it. 21 A We make a good faith effort on all of 22 them. 23 Q And again, what was the record that you 24 understand was being looked for here? 25 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 22 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 THE WITNESS: Photographs of Mr. Elmore's 2 property. 3 BY MR. ROEDER: 4 Q And how was that searched for? 5 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 6 THE WITNESS: Well, we would look in the 7 architectural review files. We would have 8 looked in the property files. 9 BY MR. ROEDER: 10 Q Now you say "architectural review files". 11 I don't mean to cut you off. Have you gotten any more? 12 A No. That's all right. 13 Q When you say "architectural review files", 14 what files specifically are those? 15 A When anybody's going to build a house or 16 do major renovations to the exterior, they go for a 17 review in front of the Architectural Review Board. And 18 then it's followed with an appearance in front of the 19 town commission, who gives the final decision on whether 20 or not what they want to do meets the code. 21 Q What about property files? How are those 22 different-- 23 A Those--because those are the files where 24 building permits are requested. They're mostly con- 25 struction related. 23 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q And so A.R.B. is, basically, zoning or 2 planning related. And property files are building 3 related. 4 A Yeah. 5 Q I don't--I don't mean to put words in your 6 mouth. 7 A Yeah, no. 8 Q I'm just trying to understand. 9 A That's, basically, the difference, al- 10 though they can overlap somewhat. But detail wise, one 11 is more detailed towards the code. And the other is more 12 detailed towards construction. 13 Q Got it. That helps. Is there anywhere 14 else where photos of the residence may be located? 15 A Possibly in the code book as examples, 16 maybe. 17 Q What about the architectural style book? 18 A That's not complete either, but yes. 19 That's--there are some in there. 20 Q And after you got the complaint, did 21 anybody go back and look again? Or what--let me just 22 rephrase that. After you get a complaint file, do you go 23 back, and try and double-check again, and then make sure 24 there's nothing that's been overlooked? 25 A What do you mean a complaint file? 24 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q Well, when Mr. O'Hare, after the response 2 that no such records exist-- 3 A Right. 4 Q --filed a complaint, so after the com- 5 plaint was filed, did you go back and check again? Or 6 did somebody check again? 7 A If we get--if somebody comes back and asks 8 again, yes, and we check every one that comes in. 9 Q So--but that--that's the request that 10 comes in. 11 A Yeah. 12 Q See, that's the request. But then a 13 complaint gets filed saying, "We didn't get what we 14 wanted." Do you go back and check again? 15 A Sure, um-hum. 16 Q Do you ever go back and contact the re- 17 quester after the complaint is filed, contact them again 18 about what you may or may not have confirmed after the 19 complaint was filed? 20 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 21 THE WITNESS: Well, if we think there's 22 something that they can add to help us locate 23 it, yes. 24 BY MR. ROEDER: 25 Q Well, speaking of locating the record, 25 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 what happens when you receive a document? How do you 2 create or receive a public record? 3 A It's logged. 4 Q How do you know how to label it so it 5 could be easily found in the future? 6 A They're numbered. 7 Q So something is numbered. But how does 8 someone know to look for photos in a certain file, versus 9 permits in another file, versus correspondence in another 10 file? How would you know where to look for the record? 11 A Well, when you work with it, they file by 12 subject matter, titles, some of them. 13 Q So do you have a formal system of--of 14 labels, or titles, or tags that you put on public 15 records? 16 A Well, if you've looked in our laser fiche 17 file, you'll see that each one of them goes under--there 18 are a number of headings. And it's determined when it's 19 received which heading it goes under. 20 Q When you say into your microfiche, you're 21 talking about your digital on-line records. 22 A Um-hum. 23 Q Those actually can do word searches. But 24 I'm just wondering for hard copy, do you have anything to 25 help you find a document? Like are they tagged a certain 26 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 way or labeled a certain way? Do you have a formal 2 system? 3 A I've got--if it's a contract, it goes in 4 the drawer where the contracts are. If it's a-- 5 something else, off the top of my head, I can't think of 6 what-- 7 Q Picture? 8 A Well, all pictures wouldn't go in one file 9 called "Pictures". 10 Q For the different types of pictures, one's 11 related-- 12 A That's right. 13 Q --to code. Another's related to-- 14 A Right. 15 Q --building permits. But there's nothing 16 similar to like a library has with a Dewey Decimal 17 System. 18 A No. 19 Q There's no type of system like that. 20 A No. 21 Q But if you get something like a--something 22 for architectural approval, which you say will go into 23 the code file or the A.R.B. file, it has--different parts 24 may be involved in going to architectural approval. So 25 do you file each and every part where it may be easily 27 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 accessible? Or you just leave everything in that file. 2 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 3 THE WITNESS: Everything stays. 4 BY MR. ROEDER: 5 Q So just hypothetically speaking, unless 6 you know personally that the picture is in a certain 7 file, since they're not labeled, "Pictures", unless it's 8 tagged uniquely, there's no other method besides just 9 your memory or knowledge to try and search out that 10 picture. 11 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 12 THE WITNESS: Well, if it's an A.R.P.B., 13 all the A.R.P.B.'s are under one heading. And 14 there are subheadings after that, addresses, 15 basically. 16 BY MR. ROEDER: 17 Q So what I'm seeing, there's actually a 18 learning curve, that the learning curve is what really-- 19 your experience or the experience of any of the people 20 working underneath you, that learning curve is what's 21 critical to being able to identify or find the records. 22 A Oh, sure. It's with anything. 23 MR. ROEDER: Okay. Mark this, you want to 24 go off, as Exhibit No. 4. 25 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 28 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 were marked as Exhibit No. 4 for identification) 2 BY MR. ROEDER: 3 Q Okay, Rita. I'll give you what's been 4 marked as Exhibit No. 4. You can look at that and get 5 familiar with it. Can you tell me in your own words 6 what's being requested there? 7 A He wants certified copies of a file, of an 8 A.R.--out of an A.R.P.B. file. He wants certain copies 9 certified. 10 Q And when was that request made? 11 A October 26, 2016. 12 MR. ROEDER: I actually have an original 13 here we can submit as Exhibit No. 5. 14 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 15 were marked as Exhibit No. 5 for identification) 16 BY MR. ROEDER: 17 Q Rita, let me give you this. And if you 18 could, describe to me what that is. 19 A It's a receipt for certified copies, 20 fifteen dollars received from Chris O'Hare. And the 21 receipt is signed by Renee. 22 Q Does that match up? You take a look at 23 Exhibit No. 4 again. Does that match up to the request 24 at the bottom of Exhibit No. 4, fifteen pages at a dollar 25 a page? 29 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A Yes. It seems to, although the num--the-- 2 the file that they were taken from is not shown on this 3 receipt. But the dates are matching. And the amount 4 matches. And it is received from Mr. O'Hare. And that's 5 who the request was from. So I think it's safe to say 6 that, that matches with that. 7 MR. ROEDER: Okay. If you want to go off 8 record, I got--yeah. We can go off record. I 9 got-- 10 COURT REPORTER: Do you concur? 11 MR. NAZZARO: For what purpose? Just-- 12 MR. ROEDER: For lining up another 13 exhibit. 14 MR. NAZZARO: Yeah. That's fine. 15 (Whereupon, a brief, informal discussion 16 was held off the record.) 17 MR. ROEDER: I'll go back on record 18 with--you try on this one yet? Just back 19 on--back on record. It's Exhibit No. 5. I may 20 swap out the actual receipt because we may need 21 that for trial instead of the copy. And I'll 22 leave you the copy of this for the record. 23 COURT REPORTER: Do you want me to mark 24 No. 6 now? 25 MR. ROEDER: Just one second. If we could 30 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 take care of the-- 2 MR. NAZZARO: What number? 3 MR. ROEDER: Remark No. 5 as the copy of 4 the receipt, and I'll keep the original. The 5 reason I'm doing that, I'm going to do the same 6 thing when I introduce No. 6. 7 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 8 were marked as Exhibit No. 6 for identification) 9 BY MR. ROEDER: 10 Q And Rita, I'll give you this here as 11 Composite No. 6. And so what are those? In your own 12 words, what are--what are those pages? 13 A It's a portion of the application that 14 went before the Architectural Review Board and the town 15 commission when Mr. Binnie was wanting to make improve- 16 ments to his house. 17 Q So let me ask you. Are those the same 18 fifteen pages that made up the request in Exhibit No. 4? 19 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 20 THE WITNESS: I don't know. I can't say 21 exactly, but everything appears that way. 22 BY MR. ROEDER: 23 Q Well, I think the page numbers are 24 actually labeled on Request No. 4. If you could, just 25 double-check and make sure that those are the page 31 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 numbers. 2 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. There's no 3 pending question. 4 THE WITNESS: Well, these page--these page 5 numbers are not--the documents that you gave me 6 do not have page numbers on them. So-- 7 BY MR. ROEDER: 8 Q So if you can't say what they are-- 9 A --I assume so. They are in a packet, a 10 part of a packet as far as the material that would be in 11 a packet. But those are numbered when they put them on 12 the laser fiche. That--that's when the numbers get 13 assigned. These number--page numbers are not assigned 14 prior to having these hearings. 15 Q Then if this were-- 16 A The software puts them on there. 17 Q But if this is what was given by your 18 office as a response to Request No. 4, how would we be 19 able to tell that it is responsive to Request No. 4 if 20 you can't tell it's responsive to Request No. 4? 21 MR. NAZZARO: Objection. 22 BY MR. ROEDER: 23 Q Or maybe just put it how would we be able 24 to tell that this is responsive to Request No. 4. 25 MR. NAZZARO: Object to the form of the 32 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 question. 2 THE WITNESS: Well, I guess you could go 3 back, and look at the laser fiche, and look to 4 see if it matched what these copies are that I 5 gave you. But I put my--my certificate on 6 there. I certified that it's what you asked 7 for. So I guess you're taking my word for it. 8 BY MR. ROEDER: 9 Q Oops. So you examined the first page, the 10 one that's--you mentioned as to William Binnie, a letter 11 to William Binnie. 12 A Um-hum. 13 Q So that's your certification at the 14 bottom. Correct? 15 A That's right. 16 Q And you did write this letter to Mr. 17 Binnie. 18 A Yes, I did. 19 Q And what's the date the letter was 20 written? 21 A May the 15th, 2011. 22 Q So it would be--would it be safe to say 23 that this is--these are excerpts as you just previously 24 mentioned? These are excerpt pages from an application 25 for architectural approval on this residence. 33 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A That's right. 2 Q And since the date of the record is May 3 15, 2011, this is a record that you had in your pos- 4 session in May, 2011. 5 A Yes. 6 Q And all these pages that are listed here, 7 each page is certified by you. 8 A Yes. 9 Q And just to verify, each one of the 10 fifteen pages has a certification on it by you. 11 A Yes. 12 Q And this certifies that--just to make 13 sure, this certified that it's from your town records. 14 A Yes. 15 Q Can you please look at the eighth page? I 16 guess you count in. This will be easier for you to do 17 than it will be for me. Let me see if that matches up 18 here. I think that does. Let me just make sure. Nope, 19 that doesn't match up. 20 A No. Maybe I miscounted. 21 MR. O'HARE: Is it right there? 22 MR. ROEDER: I think he's got the same one 23 I do. 24 THE WITNESS: I count this as eight. 25 MR. ROEDER: Okay. I think, Trey, you 34 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 count--yep, you count that as eight, too. I 2 think yours matches up. Just want to make 3 sure, Chris. Let me show you the pages-- 4 THE WITNESS: This one had-- 5 BY MR. ROEDER: 6 Q Yeah. That's it. 7 A --a label on it. 8 Q Yep. That's it. Okay. I think I got it 9 here. Can you describe to me what's on that Page 8 of 10 that record? 11 A Appears to be an aerial of a lot, was 12 taken from the property appraiser's book or record, says 13 "George Elmore" on the property record. 14 Q And can you tell me? There's a portion of 15 this photo that's highlighted. Correct? 16 A Yes. 17 Q What is that highlighted, that's high- 18 lighted? 19 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 20 THE WITNESS: I assume--and this is an 21 assumption--that, that is supposed to be 22 described in this property detail, which says 23 that it's George Elmore's. It's a view of 24 George Elmore's, and his tax value, and so on. 25 BY MR. ROEDER: 35 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q Okay. Now if you could go to Page 13, I'm 2 going to let you bring me up your Page 13 because mine 3 aren't in order. It should be the one also marked photo. 4 If you could hand me that for a second, I'll give it 5 right back to you. 6 MR. ROEDER: Trey, does this match up to 7 your thirteen? I don't think it does, or does 8 it? 9 MR. NAZZARO: Yeah. 10 MR. ROEDER: It does? Good. 11 BY MR. ROEDER: 12 Q Okay. I'll give this back to you, Rita. 13 Can you describe to me what that--what that is? 14 A It's an aerial view of an area in the town 15 with a highlighted lot on it. And it's saying that it is 16 George Elmore's, 1320 North Ocean. It's a property 17 appraiser's record. 18 Q So these two photos were photos that were 19 in the public records for Gulf Stream. 20 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form, mis- 21 characterizes the evidence. 22 THE WITNESS: Yes. 23 BY MR. ROEDER: 24 Q Okay. And so given the date of the 25 letter, May, 2011, would it be safe to say that these 36 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 existed in the record as of September 29, 2013? 2 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 3 THE WITNESS: Yes. 4 BY MR. ROEDER: 5 Q And knowing what you know now, would you 6 say that these now--these photos would be responsive to 7 Exhibit No. 1, public records request? 8 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form, mis- 9 characterizes the evidence. 10 THE WITNESS: No. I would not say that. 11 BY MR. ROEDER: 12 Q You described these as photos of Elmore's 13 property. 14 A This is a-- 15 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, mischaracterizes 16 previous testimony. 17 THE WITNESS: --an aerial photograph of an 18 area. This is--you'd never know that, that was 19 George Elmore's property. 20 BY MR. ROEDER: 21 Q But it's labeled in the owner information 22 to the upper right, correct, in each one of the photos? 23 A Yes. 24 Q So-- 25 A But these were not submitted as photos. 37 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 This was his list of property owners to notify. 2 Q So these are not photos as--these aren't 3 photos in your opinion. 4 A They were submit--they were submitted to 5 satisfy list--giving us a list of property owners within 6 so many feet to notify that there was to be a hearing. 7 Wasn't for the purpose of a photograph as we know a 8 photograph. It was--this is his list that he submitted. 9 Q So you're saying because it had a dif- 10 ferent purpose that it's not a photo. 11 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 12 THE WITNESS: As far as we're concerned, 13 yes. 14 BY MR. ROEDER: 15 Q But I don't think I'm mischaracterizing 16 it. You had referred to this in your descriptions as an 17 aerial photo of-- 18 A Of an area. 19 Q --for a gentleman's property. 20 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form, mis- 21 characterizes previous evidence. She did not 22 call the photograph, Mr. Roeder. 23 MR. ROEDER: Well, we can go back and play 24 back what she first described the two photos. 25 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, again. It's 38 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 not--she did not refer to it as a photo. You 2 can refer to it as a photo all day. Ms. Taylor 3 did not say the word, photo. If you would like 4 the Court Reporter to read back her testimony-- 5 MR. ROEDER: Yes, I would-- 6 MR. NAZZARO: --absolutely. 7 MR. ROEDER: --because I'd like to see how 8 she described it. If you could, when she 9 described the two photos two different 10 instances, and I asked her to describe what it 11 was, can you tell me what she described it as? 12 (Whereupon, a recess was held) 13 MR. O'HARE: This is the resumption of the 14 deposition of Ms. Rita Taylor. 15 MR. ROEDER: Let's let Trey get seated. 16 MR. NAZZARO: I'd just like to note for 17 the record this was improperly noticed as a 18 video deposition because it didn't include the 19 information that was required. I have no 20 objection to Mr. O'Hare videotaping the 21 deposition. 22 But as far as using it as some sort of 23 official record, I would just note that again, 24 it's not properly noticed. The notice didn't 25 include the name of the person who would be 39 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 taking the video and all that's required. So 2 you could please go ahead and finish. I 3 believe we were at the issue of whether or not 4 Ms. Taylor referred to something in Exhibit 6. 5 MR. ROEDER: Just for convenience, we had 6 the Court Reporter look up the two instances 7 where she referred to the photographs. And 8 we'll have her just read back those two 9 instances where I describe--I asked you to 10 describe what you were looking at. 11 MR. NAZZARO: And again, you're referring 12 to them as photographs. They're pictures from 13 the property appraiser's office. 14 MR. ROEDER: Whatever they are. 15 MR. NAZZARO: What--what is in Exhibit 6? 16 MR. ROEDER: You can go back. 17 (Whereupon, the above-referenced question 18 and answer were read by the Court Reporter) 19 MR. ROEDER: Back on the record. So I'll 20 hand it to you. I'll split it with you, Trey. 21 One of them referred to an aerial view. The 22 other one referred to it as a photograph. 23 BY MR. ROEDER: 24 Q So you referred to them both ways. So 25 are--is one a view and the other one a photograph, or are 40 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 they both views? They both photographs? 2 A I don't consider them photographs. No, 3 not of--not of George Elmore's house. You'd never know 4 that was--if it didn't say so on there, you'd never know 5 it. And this was submitted to us as a list of properties 6 within a distance. It was not submitted in the appli- 7 cation as--as a photograph. It was a list. That's what 8 we used it for. 9 Q But in going back, you described it as a 10 photograph. That aside for the moment, was this actually 11 part of the public records back in 2013? 12 A Oh, yes. 13 MR. NAZZARO: Object to the form. 14 BY MR. ROEDER: 15 Q And if you had knowledge of these records, 16 would you have produced them back for Mr. O'Hare in 2013? 17 MR. NAZZARO: Object to the form. 18 THE WITNESS: Say it again. 19 BY MR. ROEDER: 20 Q If you had knowledge of these records in 21 2013, would you have produced them for Mr. O'Hare? 22 MR. NAZZARO: Object to the form. 23 THE WITNESS: Well, if I had thought that 24 they were photographs of Mr. Elmore's house, 25 yes, I would have. But I wouldn't--I wouldn't 41 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 have known to--to--I wouldn't have thought to 2 look at these as a photograph of Mr. Elmore's 3 house. 4 BY MR. ROEDER: 5 Q Well, let me refer you back to Exhibit 1 6 if you could look at that again. Is it asking for a 7 photograph of--photos of Mr. Elmore's house or Mr. 8 Elmore's property? 9 A No. You're quite right. It is asking for 10 his property, but I would never--when I would have looked 11 at this, I would have thought of what he wanted was to 12 actually see his house. I wouldn't have considered this 13 because this to me was a list. 14 Q All right. And it--you said you never 15 would have thought. So were you confused at the time, do 16 you think? Or you knew he was--you say he was looking 17 for photos. But you never would have thought that an 18 aerial view-- 19 A I wouldn't have considered this a photo. 20 Q So there was no thought of asking for any 21 clarification at all. 22 A Not at that time, no. We ask for clarifi- 23 cations a lot of times. 24 Q But you didn't ask for a clarification on 25 this one. 42 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A No. 2 Q Okay. Just to recap here, you've--you've 3 talked about as town clerk, you have served as supervisor 4 of elections. You sometimes act in the absence of town 5 manager with some of--help him with some of his duties. 6 You participate in preparing agendas for the meetings. 7 You supervise the process for building permits. 8 You participated in the straw ballots or 9 the undergrounding process. You participate in the 10 town's annexations of neighboring properties. And you 11 participate in the preparation of code enforcement 12 actions. And then top of all that, you're also the 13 custodian of public records. 14 Other than the people you referred to 15 earlier today, or maybe just to go back and just clarify, 16 how many people help you with all these duties? 17 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 18 THE WITNESS: The--the ladies that--that I 19 mentioned and-- 20 BY MR. ROEDER: 21 Q Ms. Tew? 22 A And-- 23 Q Ms. Basal? 24 A Yeah. 25 Q The temp? 43 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A And the temp and sometimes the town 2 manager. 3 MR. ROEDER: Off the record. 4 (Whereupon, a brief, informal discussion 5 was held off the record.) 6 BY MR. ROEDER: 7 Q All these duties we talked about, at any 8 one time, do you consider yourself to be overwhelmed? 9 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 10 THE WITNESS: No. Overworked maybe, but 11 not overwhelmed. 12 BY MR. ROEDER: 13 Q Have you--so I guess to paraphrase, you've 14 never been overwhelmed in your job. Even though it has 15 all these characteristics, you've never felt overwhelmed. 16 A Oh, before I had any help, yes. 17 Q Oh, okay. 18 A I was back then. 19 Q Okay. Have you ever had to shut down the 20 office because you've been overwhelmed, or you all had 21 too much work to do? 22 A No. We've never shut down the office. It 23 just--everything just has to wait till we get to it. 24 Q Now we mentioned what help you had--you 25 have here today, but what help specifically? Can you 44 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 recall what help you had in--personnel wise back in 2013, 2 specifically, the date of this request, September, 2013? 3 A I can't say exactly, but because I don't 4 have all those dates at the tip of my fingers. I don't 5 need them, but we had--Gail was here. 6 Q Gail who? 7 A Begin with an A., Abeloe. 8 Q Thank you. I never knew how that was 9 pronounced. 10 A That's the way she pronounced it. 11 Q I thought it was Gail Abeloe. 12 A No. It's Abeloe. 13 Q I'm sorry. Who else? 14 A We had Linda Harvel, but I'm not sure if 15 she was here at the period that you're talking about. 16 Q Was Ms. Defosse here at that time? 17 A I know she took Gail's place. 18 Q And then there's-- 19 A And Kelly. 20 Q --Kelly Avery. But you'd-- 21 A She took Linda's place, I think. And at 22 that particular time, I don't know if we had a temp or 23 not. And I would know who it was if we did. 24 Q But you've never had to refuse to provide 25 service to city, you know, town customers due to all 45 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 these--the status of all these different jobs? 2 A No. Everything just has to wait. We have 3 somebody walk in. We take care of them. That's why we 4 have so many different people involved in all of the 5 duties actually. 6 Q So you've never had to shut down your 7 office because of all the requests that Mr. O'Hare's 8 made. 9 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, asked and 10 answered. 11 THE WITNESS: No. They--we've had to 12 withhold what maybe is considered promptness, 13 but we never have shut down the office. Door's 14 always open. 15 BY MR. ROEDER: 16 Q Have you ever been scared because of 17 public records requests from Mr. O'Hare? 18 A What do you mean scared? 19 Q That's a phrase that's been used by one of 20 the past employees. I just wondered. Have you ever been 21 scared from the public records requests that have been 22 made? 23 A Well, I don't get scared too much, but I 24 don't know. I don't really know what--how it was used-- 25 Q So-- 46 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A --whoever said that. But-- 2 Q So you've never had an employee tell you 3 they were scared because of the public records requests. 4 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 5 THE WITNESS: No, not--not scared of 6 public records requests. I've had them say 7 they were scared of some people. 8 BY MR. ROEDER: 9 Q Anybody tell you they were scared of Mr. 10 O'Hare? 11 A I don't recall his name being attached to 12 that. 13 Q Has Mr.--to your knowledge, has Mr. O'Hare 14 been rude to you? 15 A No. 16 Q Do you know if he's ever been rude to any 17 of your employees? 18 A Not that I know of. 19 Q Has he ever threatened you or threatened 20 one of the employees? 21 A Not to my knowledge. He better not. 22 Q He better not either. Has he ever de- 23 manded that the town respond to his request immediately? 24 A Oh, probably. Most all of them, if 25 they're--if we don't get to them when they think we 47 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 should, I'm sure that all of them have demanded for one 2 reason or another. But I don't recall a specific inci- 3 dent. No. 4 Q Has Mr. O'Hare ever said he would pay for 5 a public record, and then you produced it? And then he 6 not pay for it? 7 A We have--back in the early days, we have 8 prepared them. And then they didn't get picked up if 9 that's what you mean by not paying for them. Anything 10 that--as far as I know, anything that he actually took 11 hold of or--or took he's paid for. But he did leave some 12 that we had prepared that he didn't pick up. 13 Q Has he ever told you--has he ever said, 14 "Please prepare this, and I'll pay for them," and then he 15 doesn't show up and pick them up? 16 MR. NAZZARO: Asked and answered. 17 THE WITNESS: Not re-- 18 MR. NAZZARO: We have some cases pending 19 that this specifically touches on that are set 20 for hearing, I believe, this month. So as far 21 as your trying to take discovery in other cases 22 that are pending in a few weeks, I'd rather you 23 stick to what the issues are here. 24 There was a response, but there was no 25 record. I don't understand how the issue of 48 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 payment, and picking up, not picking up comes 2 in other than you taking discovery in other 3 cases that are not noticed for deposition right 4 now. 5 BY MR. ROEDER: 6 Q You--you can go ahead and answer that if 7 you want to. 8 A What--what is--I forgot the question. 9 Q Has he ever--have you ever given him a 10 price for a record? He said he will pay it and not--and 11 he not pick it up? 12 A Back in the early days, I think so. 13 Q But you can't tell what records that he's 14 said he would pay for it, and he failed to pick up. 15 A I can't off the top of my head. No. 16 Q So you can't say with any certainty that 17 he actually did commit to pick up records, and pay for 18 them, and failed to pick them up. 19 MR. NAZZARO: Asked and answered. 20 THE WITNESS: What I said. 21 BY MR. ROEDER: 22 Q Has a town manager ever expressed a dis- 23 satisfaction with anybody working underneath you for pub- 24 lic records? 25 A Not that I can recall. 49 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q Has the mayor ever expressed any dissatis- 2 faction with anybody working underneath you, public 3 records? 4 A Not that I can recall, no. 5 Q Have any of the people working underneath 6 you on public records ever made any mistakes regarding 7 the response to public records? 8 A Oh, probably. We all make mistakes when 9 you handle twenty-five hundred public records. There's 10 bound to be some mistakes. 11 Q Do you know what kind of mistakes? 12 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 13 THE WITNESS: I don't--I don't recall in 14 particular, no. Maybe pulled the wrong ones or 15 something, but I don't know that. 16 BY MR. ROEDER: 17 Q I guess the previous question I asked if 18 you--if Mr. O'Hare had ever committed to pay for public 19 records, asked you to produce them, and failed to pick 20 them up, and you couldn't recall for sure, has he ever 21 asked you to make a list of any records that he may have 22 committed to pick up and failed to pick up? 23 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 24 THE WITNESS: Not that I recall. 25 BY MR. ROEDER: 50 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q As far as your knowledge, has anybody who 2 works underneath you on public records ever--to your 3 knowledge, ever violated sections of one nineteen, public 4 records law? 5 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 6 THE WITNESS: Not that--not that I-- 7 MR. NAZZARO: Calls for a legal con- 8 clusion. 9 BY MR. ROEDER: 10 Q Let me rephrase that. 11 A At least not knowingly. 12 Q Well, instead of--let me reword that. Has 13 anybody underneath you failed to provide public records 14 as required under Florida 119? 15 MR. NAZZARO: Same objection. 16 THE WITNESS: I suppose if they couldn't 17 find them, but not--not failing to reply to 18 them just because they didn't want to. No. 19 BY MR. ROEDER: 20 Q Has Mr. O'Hare ever asked for public 21 records that you considered to be frivolous? 22 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, calls for legal 23 conclusion. 24 THE WITNESS: Oh, I'm sure, yes. 25 BY MR. ROEDER: 51 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q You sure? 2 A I don't know which ones they were now, 3 but-- 4 Q An example? 5 A I--I can't give you an example. But 6 when--when there are so many, there has to be some that 7 you would think, "What in the world would he need these 8 for?" 9 Q Has Mr. O'Hare ever asked you for records 10 about Officer Ginsburg? 11 A Well, he had public--several public 12 records requests regarding those. 13 Q About--has he asked you for public records 14 regarding code enforcement violations? 15 A Yes, um-hum. 16 Q Has he asked you for public records re- 17 garding different town policies? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Has he requested public records about 20 different town decisions? 21 A I don't understand what you mean by 22 decisions. 23 Q Decisions by the commission. 24 A Public records regarding-- 25 Q Commission decisions. 52 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 2 THE WITNESS: I--I can't answer that. 3 I--I--I'm not privy of that. 4 BY MR. ROEDER: 5 Q Has he ever asked you for public records 6 about public meetings? 7 A Oh, I'm sure he has. I mean minutes and 8 everything, I don't remember specifically. But-- 9 Q Why do you think Mr. O'Hare asked to in- 10 spect these public records? 11 A We don't ask that. We just try to supply 12 them. 13 Q Do you ever consider your obligations 14 underneath one nineteen to provide public records as 15 defined under open government to be burdensome? 16 A Oh, absolutely, when there's so many, but 17 that's the job. It's what it says. So that's what you 18 do. 19 Q So you think that your obligations to 20 comply are unreasonable. 21 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, mischaracterizes 22 previous testimony. 23 THE WITNESS: In some--in some regard, 24 yes, but it's the law. So you do it. 25 MR. ROEDER: Okay. Go off the record here 53 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 on Exhibit 7. 2 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 3 were marked as Exhibit No. 7 for identification) 4 (Whereupon, a brief, informal discussion 5 was held off the record.) 6 MR. ROEDER: Back on the record. 7 BY MR. ROEDER: 8 Q Rita, let me hand you that. Could you 9 look at that and tell me what it is? 10 A Well, it says it's a notice of commence- 11 ment. 12 Q All right. Is this one of the documents 13 you may have processed as one of your jobs for the town? 14 A That would be affiliated with the--the 15 Building Department. I personally would probably not 16 handle this particular document, but it would be some- 17 thing that's submitted. 18 Q What is it exactly? 19 A Well, when they file for an actual 20 building permit, this document is required to give notice 21 of commencement so that everybody is going to know that 22 these people--there's going to be stuff purchased to go 23 along with this job. And it has to do with liens. 24 Q What's the date on that? 25 A In this, is it--2005. It's the 26th day 54 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 of July, 2005. 2 Q And what's the name on the commencement? 3 A Percy Orthwein. 4 Q And the address? 5 A 543 Palm Lake, Gulf Stream. 6 MR. ROEDER: Okay. You can go off the 7 record for a new exhibit, eight. 8 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 9 were marked as Exhibit No. 8 for identification) 10 BY MR. ROEDER: 11 Q Rita, I'll give you this and ask if you 12 could tell me what it is. 13 A It's a--our receipt for our fees for a 14 building permit. 15 Q Have you ever seen this document before? 16 A This particular one, no. It's a standard 17 form. 18 Q So what is--it's a--says "a billing review 19 receipt". What's the date on it? 20 A 2010. 21 Q And the name? 22 A April 15th, Percy Orthwein. 23 Q And the address? 24 A 543 Palm way. 25 MR. ROEDER: And I think our final 55 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 exhibit, we can go off line again, No. 9. 2 (Whereupon, the above-referenced documents 3 were marked as Exhibit No. 9 for identification) 4 MR. ROEDER: We'll let Trey look at that. 5 THE WITNESS: Um-hum. 6 MR. NAZZARO: What's that? Oh, yeah. Let 7 the record show I'm hungry. It's--my stomach 8 just growled. 9 MR. ROEDER: Did it really? 10 MR. NAZZARO: Sorry. Apparently, it was-- 11 MR. ROEDER: Don't put that on the record. 12 MR. NAZZARO: --for the deponent to notice 13 and say something. I'm very embarrassed. 14 MR. ROEDER: Is there a formal objection 15 to stomach growling? Probably should be. 16 BY MR. ROEDER: 17 Q Can you describe what that is? 18 A Well, it's the eight-page -- probably the 19 first page of a set of minutes dated June the 1st, 2007. 20 And they are commission meeting minutes. 21 Q Does it list you participating as the 22 clerk? 23 A Yes. 24 Q And who is the last person on the list of 25 participants? 56 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A Well, it says "Percy Orthwein", but that-- 2 that just meant that he had appeared at some point in 3 the--in the meeting. 4 Q So you--you knew a Percy Orthwein. 5 A Yes. He's town resident. 6 Q And you also know that he's married to 7 the--to the mayor at the time, Joan Orthwein. 8 A She was vice-mayor at the time. 9 Q Vice-mayor at the time? 10 MR. NAZZARO: Again, Lou, you know this 11 relates to an appeal from a case that is 12 decided in the town's favor. This relates in 13 any way to that case, I would just ask that you 14 please try to keep on track. We're dealing 15 with one case that was noticed. We're not 16 dealing with cases that are on appeal. 17 We're not dealing with the undergrounding 18 that's set for motion to dismiss next week. 19 We're not dealing with other cases that are set 20 for summary judgment hearings later this month. 21 Let's try to keep it to this case, and I would 22 ask you do the same for Mr. Thrasher's depo- 23 sition. 24 MR. ROEDER: Let's go off the record for 25 one minute here. 57 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 (Whereupon, a brief, informal discussion 2 was held off the record.) 3 MR. ROEDER: Okay, want to go back on. 4 MR. NAZZARO: You can take Ms. Taylor and 5 Mr. Thrasher's deposition in any case. But 6 with this case and with those cases, I just 7 would want you to keep on track. We--we waited 8 half an hour for Mr. O'Hare to get here out of 9 a courtesy. 10 It's now ten past 11:00. We thought this 11 would be a little bit quicker. I'm sure Ms. 12 Rita has a lot of work to do. So if we could 13 just keep that in mind, I'd appreciate it. 14 MR. ROEDER: Duly noted. 15 BY MR. ROEDER: 16 Q You stated that one of your jobs is parti- 17 cipating in the preparation of agendas for the public 18 meetings. 19 A Um-hum. 20 Q So when I ask you about records that you 21 assemble, the meeting packets for those meetings, what is 22 a meeting packet? 23 A It's material, an accumulation of material 24 that is listed on the agenda itself, any backup. 25 Q So the packet contains records prepared in 58 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 regard to the matters before the commission. 2 A Sure. 3 Q Now--and the packet contains records pre- 4 pared regard to matters that may be considered by members 5 of the A.R.B. 6 A That's not on the commission agenda, but 7 on their own agenda, yes. 8 Q And how do the members, or the--or the 9 commissioners, or the A.R.P.B. receive these records 10 prior to the meeting? 11 A They're hand delivered by the Police 12 Department. 13 Q Wow, they're delivered to their homes or 14 to their offices. 15 A Yes, to their homes. 16 Q Fantastic. 17 A It's kind of standard in a town this size. 18 Q Who was the mayor at the time of the 19 request in Exhibit 1 was made? That's the September, 20 2003, '13, excuse me. 21 A What--what was the date? 22 Q September, 2013, do you know? 23 A Well, no, not for sure. The dates all run 24 together for me. I've worked for three mayors in Gulf 25 Stream. First, it was Mayer Koch. Then it was Mayor 59 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Orthwein, and then it was Mayor Morgan in that order. So 2 I don't--I don't know if Mayor Orthwein was still mayor 3 then because along about that time, Mayor Morgan was 4 appointed. 5 Q So do you know where Percy and Mayor 6 Orthwein's home, or vice-mayor at the time, where their 7 home was located? 8 A I know where it's located. Yeah. 9 Q Do you know the address? 10 A No. 11 Q Hold on just one second. All right. But 12 when you have these documents delivered, delivered to 13 their home, you know the addresses that are being de- 14 livered to. Right? 15 A No. The policeman does. 16 Q The policeman? 17 A I put their names on them. 18 Q So you put the names, and the police 19 deliver them to the address. Have you ever sent Mr. 20 O'Hare a notice of violation for anchoring a boat behind 21 the Orthweins' home? 22 A Yes. 23 MR. NAZZARO: I would just make the same 24 comment, Mr. Roeder. This has absolutely 25 nothing to do with the case that is noticed 60 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 here. That is a completely separate issue that 2 is also in the process of--I mean still in 3 litigation with our outside counsel. 4 I would like you to take discovery in this 5 case and this case only. You've taken dis- 6 covery in about four other cases that come to 7 mind. 8 MR. ROEDER: Well, but it does go--just 9 for the record, it does go to all of her duties 10 and duties that have been claimed to be over- 11 whelmed. So we're just trying to get an under- 12 standing of what those duties are, and whether 13 you're overwhelmed, and specifically, what-- 14 what's involved in those duties. 15 MR. NAZZARO: I think she testified as far 16 as generally what her duties are. If you want 17 her to go into specifics, that is quite all 18 right. But I would ask that you maybe go into 19 specifics that don't implicate current cases 20 between your client and the town that are not 21 noticed for this particular deposition. 22 BY MR. ROEDER: 23 Q Is your understanding of the custodian of 24 records that you charge the requester of public records a 25 cost of producing the record? 61 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A Yes. 2 Q Are you entitled to charge a--for the 3 actual cost of duplication of the record? 4 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, calls for legal 5 conclusion. 6 THE WITNESS: By the law, as long as it's 7 by the law. 8 MR. ROEDER: I won't get into answering 9 the objection. 10 BY MR. ROEDER: 11 Q Are you entitled to charge for extensive 12 clerical supervisory assistance required to produce the 13 record? 14 A Yeah. 15 MR. NAZZARO: Objection, calls for legal 16 conclusion. 17 MR. ROEDER: I--again, I won't challenge 18 that. I'll just let the objection sit. 19 MR. NAZZARO: I mean if you're going to 20 read the statute and ask her if she knows what 21 the statute is, I mean--you know. 22 MR. ROEDER: I'm just asking her, her 23 understanding. She is the custodian of public 24 records. 25 BY MR. ROEDER: 62 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q Are you entitled to be paid providing an 2 estimate only for the actual--for the cost of producing a 3 public record? 4 MR. NAZZARO: Same objection. 5 THE WITNESS: Say it again. 6 BY MR. ROEDER: 7 Q In your opinion, are you entitled to be 8 paid for providing an estimate for the cost of producing 9 a public record? 10 MR. NAZZARO: Same objection. 11 THE WITNESS: I don't know what you mean 12 providing. Do you mean the time that we spend 13 to provide an estimate? 14 BY MR. ROEDER: 15 Q Let me just back up. When Mr. O'Hare 16 submits his public records request, he usually does so in 17 writing. Correct? 18 A Yes. 19 Q And at the bottom, he asks to be notified 20 if the cost of production is over a dollar to be given an 21 estimate of what that is. Correct? On those public 22 records requests, he notes in there that if the cost of 23 production, an estimate of the cost of production is over 24 one dollar, he'd like to be--to know that before the 25 actual record is produced. 63 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 A Yes. 2 Q So that is it your opinion that to provide 3 the estimate, you're allowed to charge him for at least 4 even providing the estimate? 5 A Well, we give them fifteen minutes free. 6 So usually we can estimate during that time. 7 Q Have you ever charged him or-- 8 A I don't know. 9 Q --tried to charge him for an estimate? 10 A I don't--I don't know if we have. It's 11 possible. If it was--took a long, long time to even get 12 an estimate figured or estimated, it might have been 13 included in the end result. I--I can't say to that. 14 MR. NAZZARO: Again, Lou, there's no 15 estimate at issue here. This is taking 16 discovery in a completely separate case. 17 MR. ROEDER: Just talking about the 18 whole-- 19 MR. NAZZARO: I mean I don't know how many 20 times I need to make the same objection. 21 MR. ROEDER: As many times as you want 22 because I'm talking about the whole process 23 here because that's what it relates to. 24 MR. NAZZARO: I don't think it relates to 25 the whole process. What is at issue here is 64 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 there was no record produced, whether or not 2 the record was produced. There's no estimate. 3 There's no cost to provide an estimate. 4 There's cases that are set for summary 5 judgment hearings on this exact issue that 6 you're taking discovery on. I'm sure that 7 videotape's going to end up with any number of 8 Mr. O'Hare or anyone's, you know, any of his 9 other lawyers in order to prepare for that 10 hearing. 11 So I don't appreciate you taking discovery 12 in a separate case when this case is about a 13 photo. The response was no such record, and 14 that's at issue. There--there's no estimate at 15 issue. There's no charging for estimates at 16 issue. That's at issue in a separate case. 17 That's going to a hearing for summary judgment 18 within the next two weeks. 19 MR. ROEDER: Objection is duly noted. If 20 you want to instruct her not to answer, you can 21 instruct her not to answer. But the faster we 22 get through this, I can go through these 23 questions, the faster we'll be out of here. 24 BY MR. ROEDER: 25 Q Are you--in your opinion as the custodian 65 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 of records, are you entitled to be paid a deposit if the 2 requester chooses not to agree to a deposit? 3 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 4 THE WITNESS: Say it again. 5 BY MR. ROEDER: 6 Q Are you entitled--the requester, Mr. 7 O'Hare, asks for an estimate. You give him an estimate 8 of X dollars, and you want a deposit. If he refuses to 9 give the deposit, are you entitled to give the--get the 10 deposit before you produce the public record? 11 A Yeah. 12 Q Okay. Under what circumstances would you 13 choose not to charge for producing a public record? 14 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 15 THE WITNESS: I don't know that there's 16 ever a time that we don't charge unless there's 17 some extenuating circumstance. But as a rule, 18 we--we do charge. However, we always give-- 19 like I said, we give the fifteen minutes for 20 free. 21 BY MR. ROEDER: 22 Q So just to be clear, I just want to step 23 back here. Mr. O'Hare asked for an estimate beforehand. 24 You give him an estimate and say, "He needs to put a 25 deposit down." Then he refuses to put down the deposit. 66 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Are you still entitled to the deposit even though you're 2 not producing the record? 3 A No. 4 Q Okay. Have you charged--you mentioned 5 here the first fifteen minutes free. Have you ever 6 charged for labor on anything that took less than fifteen 7 minutes? 8 A I wouldn't know for sure. I would not 9 have intended to, but-- 10 Q Have you ever required a deposit for less 11 than fifteen minutes in order to produce a public record? 12 A No. 13 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form. 14 THE WITNESS: Not that I'm aware of. I'll 15 put it that way. 16 MR. NAZZARO: If you're going to insist on 17 continuing to take the deposition testimony 18 from this individual on separate cases, I'll go 19 ahead and move for a Court order before 20 agreeing to any future deposition on these 21 individuals to make sure that you will take the 22 deposition relative to the case that you notice 23 the deposition for, not and for other cases, 24 Mr. Roeder. 25 I would appreciate as a professional 67 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 courtesy that you take deposition testimony in 2 this case only. And as far as--it is my 3 understanding being a law clerk and dealing 4 with a number of discovery disputes for two 5 years, literally nothing but discovery dis- 6 putes, your conduct is improper. 7 And I would have no problem going before a 8 Court before agreeing to any subsequent depo- 9 sition of these individuals to make sure that 10 you take deposition on whatever case is 11 noticed. Please continue to ask questions in 12 other cases that are--have not been properly 13 noticed. But I would just like to note my 14 objection in your statement that your conduct's 15 unprofessional. 16 MR. ROEDER: Now you've gone too far. 17 Your speaking objection, No. 1, is unprofes- 18 sional. No. 2, I've told you that we're--we're 19 sitting here. We've been presented with af- 20 firmative defenses. 21 And one of your co-counsel has made it 22 abundantly clear that he's going to challenge 23 everything to do with Mr. O'Hare, how the 24 records are done, bringing into question the 25 ability of the town to perform because of Mr. 68 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 O'Hare's public records request. So I have 2 every right to be able to explore and look for 3 possible evidence regarding the way the town 4 responds, if they have been held up, if they 5 have run up against a brick wall. 6 And the longer you object, the longer it's 7 going to take. But I'm--if you want to stop 8 the deposition because I'm asking questions 9 about how she performs what she considers to be 10 her duties or not her duties, what she 11 considers to be fees that she's--legitimate 12 fees to charge, those are all fair game. 13 MR. NAZZARO: I got it. 14 THE WITNESS: Oh, it went way over there. 15 Thank you. 16 MR. NAZZARO: I don't believe any of those 17 affirmative defenses are at issue in this case. 18 To the extent that they are, that's--that's-- 19 you know that's your call. We'll let the Judge 20 figure it out before we agree to any subsequent 21 deposition. Please, continue. 22 BY MR. ROEDER: 23 Q Do you consider Gulf Stream to be a small 24 town? 25 A Yes. 69 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q Do you have the same governing powers in 2 your--to your knowledge, do you have the same governing 3 powers granted by the legislatures as other municipali- 4 ties-- 5 A Yes. 6 Q --regardless of size? 7 A As far as I know, yeah. 8 Q And because of its size, is Gulf Stream 9 exempt from any of the requirements of one nineteen, the 10 public records law? 11 MR. NAZZARO: Object to form, calls for 12 legal conclusion. 13 THE WITNESS: Not that I know of. 14 BY MR. ROEDER: 15 Q And in your opinion as the custodian of 16 public records, is Gulf Stream to be excused from re- 17 sponding to public records requests due to its size? 18 A No. 19 Q So on--in your opinion, you provide the 20 same services to residents as they would get from any 21 clerk of any town size in Florida. 22 A (Witness nods head). Yes. 23 Q Are there any functions in all the duties 24 that we talked about that you participate, all the duties 25 that--the popery of duties that you have, are any of 70 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 those functions that you can't provide because of the 2 size of the town? 3 A We provide all of the services, although 4 because of our size, we may not get to them as fast. But 5 we do provide them. And we do whatever, if we have to 6 reach outside sometimes for help. 7 Q What is a public records log? 8 A It's a--it's a chart that shows when the 9 record was received, what number it was issued, what it 10 said, what was done to dispose of it. 11 Q And that's sometimes referred to as a 12 public records numbers log. Correct? 13 A Maybe some people refer to it that way. 14 To me, it's just the--the public records log. 15 Q Is every request for public records put in 16 that log? 17 A In our--I can't speak for other towns, but 18 in--in this town, it is. 19 Q Are there any entries in that log that are 20 not public records requests? 21 A Not to my knowledge. 22 Q And are there any entries in that log that 23 are changed after they're entered? 24 A Well, they're changed as the action con- 25 tinues on. 71 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Q So if I was to get the current log, that 2 would be--every entry in that log would be accurate to 3 your--to your knowledge. 4 A To the best of my knowledge, yes. 5 Q Let me just confer. I think we're just-- 6 we're over it unless we have some more questions here. 7 Do you commit--do you attend most commission meetings? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And at those commission's meetings, have 10 you ever heard Mr. O'Hare ask the commission any ques- 11 tions? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Does the mayor usually refer those 14 questions to Mr. Thrasher for a--to answer? 15 A Yes, but not--not on the podium. 16 Q Hold on here one second. 17 MR. O'HARE: Yeah. Forget about it. 18 MR. ROEDER: Okay. I think we're done. 19 Thank you, Rita. 20 MR. NAZZARO: I have nothing. 21 THE WITNESS: Okay. What about these? 22 (Whereupon, the videotaped deposition was 23 concluded at 11:30 a.m.) 24 25 72 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 CERTIFICATE OF OATH 2 3 4 STATE OF FLORIDA ) 5 ) SS 6 COUNTY OF BROWARD ) 7 8 9 I, the undersigned authority, certify that 10 RITA TAYLOR personally appeared before me and was duly 11 sworn. 12 13 WITNESS my hand and official seal this 21st 14 day of April, 2017. 15 16 17 18 19 20 ______________________________ SHAWN R. REMENAR, COURT REPORTER 21 Commission No.: FF925834 Expires: December 7, 2019 22 23 24 25 73 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 REPORTER'S DEPOSITION CERTIFICATE 2 3 4 5 I, SHAWN R. REMENAR, Registered Professional 6 Reporter, certify that I was authorized to and did 7 stenographically report the videotaped deposition of RITA 8 TAYLOR; that a review of the transcript was requested; 9 and that the transcript is a true and complete record of 10 my stenographic notes. 11 12 I further certify that I am not a relative, 13 employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor 14 am I a relative or employee of any of the parties' 15 attorney or counsel connected with the action, nor am I 16 financially interested in the action. 17 18 Dated this 21st day of April, 2017. 19 20 21 22 ___________________________________ 23 SHAWN R. REMENAR, COURT REPORTER 24 25 74 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 DEPOSITION ERRATA SHEET 2 Page No. __________Line No.__________Change to:__________ 3 _________________________________________________________ 4 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 5 Page No.___________Line No. _________Change to:__________ 6 _________________________________________________________ 7 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 8 Page No.___________Line No.__________Change to:__________ 9 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 10 Page No.__________Line No.___________Change to:__________ 11 _________________________________________________________ 12 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 13 Page No.__________Line No.___________Change to:__________ 14 _________________________________________________________ 15 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 16 Page No.__________Line No.___________Change to:__________ 17 _________________________________________________________ 18 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 19 Page No.__________Line No.___________Change to:__________ 20 _________________________________________________________ 21 Reason for change:_______________________________________ 22 SIGNATURE:______________________DATE:____________ RITA TAYLOR 23 Please forward the original signed errata sheet to this 24 office so that copies may be distributed to all parties. 25 75 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 DAUGHTERS REPORTING, INC. 101 Northeast 3rd Avenue 2 Suite 1500 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 3 (954) 755-6401 4 April 21, 2017 5 Ms. Rita Taylor 6 c/o Edward (Trey) C. Nazzaro, Esquire 100 Sea Road 7 Gulf Stream, Florida 33483 8 RE: CHRISTOPHER F. O'HARE VS. TOWN OF GULF STREAM 9 Case No.: 50-2013-CA-018101-XXXX-MB-AO 10 Dear Ms. Taylor: 11 Relative to the above, please be advised that your deposition taken on April 7, 2017, is available at our 12 office for reading, the making of any corrections, additions or alterations, and signing your deposition 13 here at this office. 14 The deposition will be forwarded to LOUIS ROEDER, ESQUIRE, as required, with or without your signature by 15 noon on May 5, 2017. 16 Please call this office to make an appointment to read your deposition to assure that we will have someone here 17 to assist you. 18 Sincerely, 19 20 Shawn R. Remenar Court Reporter 21 cc: Louis Roeder, Esquire 22 Edward (Trey) C. Nazzaro, Esquire 23 24 25 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 1 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 954-755-6401 Daughters Reporting, Inc. 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