HomeMy Public PortalAboutConscom 2019-06-18 ORLEANS TOWN CLERK
Orleans Conservation Commission ' d
Town Hall, Nauset Room
Hearing, Tuesday, June 18, 2019 '19 JUN 27 10:05A1
Present: Mike Brink (Chair), Judith Bruce (Vice-Chair), Rich Nadler(Member), Jack Kadzik
(Member), Ginny Farber (Member), Bob Rothberg (Associate Member), Ron Mgrdichian
(Associate Member), John Jannell (Conservation Administrator)
Absent: Walter North (Member)
8:30 a.m. Call to Order
Request to Amend
Peter and Alice Van Oot 25 Blueberry Island Rd.
By Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. Assessor's Map 31, Parcel 11.The construction of a detached garage
and expansion of existing porch. Work will take place within 100' to the top of a Coastal Bank
and within the flood zone.
David Lyttle from Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. and homeowners Peter and Alice Van Oot were
present. Mr. Brink noted the Commission had requested additional materials at the last
meeting but had yet to receive anything for this meeting. The Commission and applicant
discussed what was expected in the way of a planting plan according to the original Order of
Conditions. Mr. Jannell noted issues such as a larger area of clearing than what was approved,
trees required in the Order have not been planted, and a lack of a permit for the garden. In
addition, he said the step detail is still needed as well as the wood chipped path noted on a site
plan. Ms. Bruce informed the applicant that the intent is to keep human activity out of the 50'
buffer to restore natural habitat. The Van Oots' explained that since the original Order was
issued, they have done extensive research to educate themselves on what should be included
in a planting plan. Mr. Nadler said he sees benefit in what the homeowners have done so far.
Mr.Jannell reminded the Commission that this is a case where the applicant has changed what
was required of them without permission. The changes need to be approved before activity is
to take place. Mr. Rothberg and Mr. Kadzik both agreed they are getting close to a resolve but
just need details from the applicant on what they plan on doing. Mr. Brink reiterated the
Commission would like to see type, location, and quantity of plantings. As for garden
placement,the Commission was torn and wanted to explore the alternative locations at the
next Hearing. Mr. Lyttle requested a Continuance.
Motion: A motion to Continue the public hearing to the meeting on 7/2 was made by Judith
Bruce and seconded by Bob Rothberg.
Vote: 6-0-1 (Ms. Farber not eligible to vote)
Continuation
Todd and Brooks Thayer 75 Arey's Ln.
By Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. Assessor's Map 62, Parcel 84. The proposed construction of a new
single-family dwelling with septic system. Work will occur within 100' to the Top of a Coastal
Bank and the Edge of a Wetland, and within the Pleasant Bay ACEC.
David Lyttle from Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. was present. He explained revisions to the site
plan to which the Commission was satisfied. Mr. Jannell suggested a Special Condition for a pre-
construction meeting pertaining to tree work.
Motion: A motion to close the public hearing was made by Judith Bruce and seconded by Ginny
Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
Motion: A motion to approve the project with the Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. site plan dated
6/12/19 and the Special Condition that a pre-construction meeting with the Conservation
Administrator be held prior to the start of work, was made by Judith Bruce and seconded by
Ginny Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
Administrative Reviews
Richard and Jane D'Entremont 33 Alden Rd.
Proposed construction of an addition on an existing crawl space foundation.
David Lyttle from Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. was present. Mr. Lyttle provided the
Commission with photos of the site. All agreed the project was not an issue but would like a
Limit of Work noted on the site plan.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Judith Bruce and
seconded by Ginny Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
Pat Monaghan &Tim Simard 36 Tides End Ln.
Proposed enclosure and conversion of existing porch area.
David Lyttle from Ryder and Wilcox, Inc. was present. The Commission agreed that what
was being proposed today would require some sort of mitigation to compensate. Mr. Lyttle
explained they would be coming back at a later date to apply for further work and could add
mitigation to that proposal. Ms. Farber stated she was uncomfortable allowing this to occur in
two pieces. Ms. Bruce agreed to an extent. Mr. Nadler requested a Limit of Work added to the
site plan.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Judith Bruce and
seconded by Ginny Farber.
Vote: 6-0-1 (Ms. Farber opposed)
Molly Jenks 25 Kenneth Ln.
Proposed annual mowing and clearing of invasives. Work to be done by Jeff Norgeot.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Judith Bruce and
seconded by Ginny Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
Vince and Cici Grove 46 Arey's Ln.
Proposed removal of three dead trees and pruning of branches. Work to be done by Handren
Brothers.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Ginny Farber and
seconded by Judith Bruce.
Vote: 7-0-0
Tim Macort 615 South Orleans Rd.
Proposed lowering of two pilings on existing dock. Work to be done by Nate Norgeot.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Rich Nadler and
seconded by Judith Bruce.
Vote: 7-0-0
Philip Metzidakis 64 Tonset Rd.
Proposed removal of invasives, vista pruning, removal of black locust trees, and planting of
native shrubs. Work to be done by Grounded Landscapes.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Judith Bruce and
seconded by Ginny Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
John and Anna Sommers 7 South Little Bay Rd.
Proposed maintenance of beach access stairs. Work to be done by John Martin.
Motion: A motion to approve the Administrative Review was made by Judith Bruce and
seconded by Ginny Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
Jill Teitelman 64 Winslow Dr.
Proposed pruning of 6-7 trees for view purposes, and removal of three dead locust or pine.
Work to be done by Tim Baker.
No action was taken today.
Other Business
Discussion/clarification of Wetlands Working Group options for regulatory changes
Mr. Brink suggested to postpone the discussion to wait for Commission member Walter
North to be in attendance.
Monitoring Reports
64 Mill Pond Rd.
The Commission saw no issues.
63 Kenneth Ln.
Mr. Jannell reported the turtle barrier is installed and saw no issues.
Chairman's Business
Approval of the Minutes from the meeting on 6/11
Motion: A motion to approve the Minutes from the meeting on 6/11 was made by Judith Bruce
and seconded by Ginny Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
Ms. Farber announced that the Eastham and Orleans Select boards will meet June 24th at the
Orleans Snow Library to discuss dredging.
Motion: A motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Judith Bruce and seconded by Ginny
Farber.
Vote: 7-0-0
The meeting adjourned at 10:17 a.m.
Submitted by:
Molly Bates, Principal Clerk, Orleans Conservation