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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 9, 1989
INITIATION:
1. CALL TO ORDER:
Pursuant to Agenda posted May 5, 1989, Chairman Seibert
called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. in the Council
Chambers.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG:
Commissioner Coolman led the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
3. ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Budds,Coolman,Griffiths,Muto
and Chairman Seibert
Absent: None
Also Present: City Attorney Martin, City Manager Koski,
Community Development Director Dawson
4. CONSENT CALENDAR:
Commissioner Coolman moved to approve the Consent Calendar
Seconded by Commissioner Budds and approved unanimously.
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Meeting of April 25, 1989
Approved as written
B. MONTHLY CODE ENFORCEMENT REPORT - Month of April
Received and filed
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
None
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 2
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
6 . N E W B U S I N E S S :
A . P U B L I C H E A R I N G : T E N T A T I V E P A R C E L 2 0 8 4 9
S i t e : 9 7 2 5 O L I V E S T R E E T
O w n e r / A p p l i c a n t : M a h a d e v a & C h a n d r a S i n h a
9 7 2 5 O l i v e S t r e e t
T e m p l e C i t y , C A 9 1 7 8 0
R e q u e s t :
T o a l l o w a n e x i s t i n g R - 1 l o t
t o b e s u b d i v i d e d i n t o t w o
l o t s , o n e o f w h i c h i s t o b e a
F l a g L o t .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t a s k e d i f t h e n o t i c e s h a d b e e n s e n t .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n r e p l i e d t h e y h a d a n d p r e s e n t e d t h e s t a f f
r e p o r t a n d v i d e o .
T h e r e w e r e n o q u e s t i o n s o f s t a f f a n d t h e p u b l i c h e a r i n g
w a s o p e n e d
M a h a d e v a S i n h a , 9 7 2 5 O l i v e S t r e e t , s t a t e d h e h a d r e a d
t h e c o n d i t i o n s o f a p p r o v a l a n d r e q u e s t e d t h a t t h e b l o c k
w a l l r e q u i r e m e n t b e d e l e t e d f o r t h e t i m e b e i n g . H e
s t a t e d h e h a d n o i m m e d i a t e p l a n s f o r c o n s t r u c t i o n o n t h e
s u b d i v i d e d l o t . C o n s t r u c t i n g a b l o c k w a l l a t t h i s t i m e
w o u l d o b s t r u c t t h e v i e w o f t h e s t r e e t . H e s t a t e d t h a t
i f a n d w h e n t h e p r o p e r t y w a s s o l d o r a h o m e c o n s t r u c t e d ,
i t b e m a n d a t e d a t t h a t t h e b l o c k w a l l b e c o n s t r u c t e d a t
t h a t t i m e .
M r . M a h a d e v a a l s o r e q u e s t e d c l a r i f i c a t i o n o n t h e 5 f o o t
s i d e w a l k r e q u i r e m e n t . H e s t a t e d t h a t i f t h e s i d e w a l k i s
t o b e c o n s t r u c t e d p r i o r t o t h e f i n a l r e c o r d a t i o n , a g a i n
h e r e q u e s t e d a d e l a y u n t i l c o n s t r u c t i o n o r s a l e o f t h e
p a r c e l .
T h e r e w e r e n o o b j e c t i o n s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s m o v e d t o c l o s e t h e p u b l i c h e a r -
i n g , s e c o n d e d b y C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n a s k e d C o m m u n i t y D e v e l o p m e n t D i r e c -
t o r D a w s o n h o w m u c h o t h e r s i d e w a l k w a s a l o n g t h a t
s t r e e t .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h e r e w a s n o t a n y o n t h a t s i d e .
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s s t a t e d t h e r e w a s s o m e o n t h e
s o u t h s i d e , b u t n o t o n t h e n o r t h .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d i t w a s a s t a n d a r d c o n d i t i o n .
Planning Commission Minutes Page 3
May 9, 1989
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Chairman Seibert asked if there was a way to defer those
items until development.
Director Dawson stated it was difficult. The approved
Tentative Parcel Map is valid for a two -year period of
time. It is incumbent to approve the Final Parcel Map
if it complies with all of the conditions of approval
for the Tentative Parcel Map. It does give the property
owner a two -year period of time in which to comply. It
is difficult to post a bond and have it go on indefi-
nitely, particularly in this type of situation where
there are no immediate plans to build; there is no
mechanism to hold the bond or to keep in abeyance for a
number of years. We prefer to have the necessary im-
provements prior to recordation of the final map and
once the final map is recorded the matter is put to rest
and there are no loose ends.
Chairman Seibert asked if something could be put into
the requirements to the effect that prior to development
or issuance of permits the work must be accomplished.
Director Dawson stated it would be possible, however, if
there is new or changing staff, someone would have to
go back to the files and review the previous actions.
Once a final map is recorded, you are relying on indi-
viduals to check and double check and it is difficult.
City Attorney Martin stated it was very difficult to
sustain these over years by bond. A deed covenant could
be recorded now and in the event the property changes
hands or is developed the requirements would have to be
met.
Commissioner Griffiths asked City Attorney Martin if
that was a viable solution.
Chairman Seibert also asked if that condition could be
put to the conditions.
City Attorney Martin stated it could be. It could be
stated that if those conditions are not met now, before
the final map is recognized, a covenant must be recorded
stating that upon development of any kind he will comply
before any building permit will be issued.
Director Dawson asked City Attorney Martin if the prop-
erty did not change hands, and the present owner came in
to obtain building permits, what mechanism would be
available to the City.
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 4
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
C i t y A t t o r n e y M a r t i n s t a t e d t h e C i t y w o u l d h a v e t o k e e p
t r a c k o f i t .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d a c o v e n a n t w o u l d s h o w u p a t t h e
t i m e o f s a l e a n d w o u l d t r i g g e r t h e t i m e w h e n t h e
i m p r o v e m e n t s w o u l d b e m a d e . H o w e v e r , a m e c h a n i s m i s n o t
s e t u p a t C i t y H a l l t o f l a g t h a t s o m e t i m e d o w n t h e r o a d .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s a s k e d a b o u t j u s t d i s r e g a r d i n g t h e s e
t w o c o n d i t i o n s a l t o g e t h e r ; j u s t r e c o g n i z e t h e l o t a n d
t h e n a t s o m e p o i n t i n t i m e w h e n s o m e o n e c o m e s f o r w a r d t o
c o n s t r u c t a r e s i d e n c e , a s k f o r t h e i t e m s .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d t h a t u n l e s s a v a r i a n c e o r z o n e
c h a n g e i s r e q u e s t e d , i t w i l l n o t c o m e b e f o r e t h e C o m m i s -
s i o n . T h e y w o u l d o n l y a p p l y f o r a p e r m i t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d t h e p r o j e c t w o u l d h a v e t o g o
t h r o u g h P l a n n i n g D e p a r t m e n t b e f o r e b u i l d i n g p e r m i t s
c o u l d b e i s s u e d .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h e r e w a s n o r e q u i r e m e n t f o r
s o m e o n e t o b u i l d a b l o c k w a l l w h e n t h e y o b t a i n b u i l d i n g
p e r m i t s t o b u i l d a n e w h o u s e . A n o t e c o u l d b e p l a c e d i n
t h e f i l e a n d c u r r e n t s t a f f m e m b e r s w o u l d c e r t a i n l y
r e m e m b e r , b u t a s t i m e g o e s o n t h e r e a r e c h a n g e s . T h e r e
w o u l d b e n o g u a r a n t e e t h e i m p r o v e m e n t s w o u l d b e m a d e .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d i t w a s a c o m b i n a t i o n o f w h a t
C i t y A t t o r n e y M a r t i n s u g g e s t e d a n d a c o n d i t i o n .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d h e f o u n d n o t h i n g w r o n g w i t h t h e
c o n d i t i o n s .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d t h e r e w a s a r i s k f a c t o r , b u t
p r o b a b l y n o t s i g n i f i c a n t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d t h a t c i t i e s a l w a y s h a v e a
p a c k e t o f w h a t h a s b e e n d o n e o n a p r o p e r t y a n d t h a t
w o u l d b e a l o g i c a l p l a c e t o p u t a n o t a t i o n t h a t c e r t a i n
c o n d i t i o n s s t i l l m u s t b e m e t .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t a s k e d i f s h e w o u l d b e i n f a v o r o f
d e f e r r i n g , b u t n o t e l i m i n a t i n g .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d s h e w a s . T h e a p p l i c a n t h a s
a r e a s o n a b l e r e q u e s t . F o r i n s t a n c e , i f h i s w a s t h e o n l y
p l a c e t h a t d i d n o t h a v e a n y s i d e w a l k , t h a t w o u l d b e
d i f f e r e n t . B u t t h a t s i d e o f t h e b l o c k d o e s n o t h a v e
a n y . W h e n a n o t h e r h o u s e i s c o n s t r u c t e d , t h e n t h e b l o c k
w a l l s h o u l d b e c o n s t r u c t e d . W h y c u t o f f t h e b r e e z e ,
l i g h t a n d v i e w a t t h i s t i m e ?
Planning Commission Minutes Page 5
May 9, 1989
Commissioner Griffiths stated he was in concurrence.
Building the 6 foot wall at this point is unnecessary
and should be built when the front parcel is sold or
developed. The sidewalk is not that important an issue.
That will not block light or air, it would not harm
anything to build it now.
Commissioner Muto stated this could be handled by some
type of recorded legal agreement with a copy in the
City files. He stated that in an area where there are
no sidewalks, it would not serve a useful purpose at
this time.
Commissioner Budds agreed and stated it was a beautiful
piece of property. Putting in a wall or constructing a
wall at this time should be deferred.
Chairman Seibert agreed with the other Commissioners.
He also stated he had no problem with the deferment, but
that some notation should be placed in the files.
Director Dawson stated a covenant could be drawn up to
trigger action at the time sale and /or development and a
copy can be placed in the address file.
City Manager Koski stated that the resolution should
have some phraseology that these items will be required
prior to construction on Parcel 1.
Director Dawson stated it can be covered with phraseol-
ogy prior to development or the sale of either parcel.
Commissioner Coolman moved to approve Tentative Parcel
20849 based on discussion to defer until sale or devel-
opment the construction of the 6 foot block wall and the
curbs and sidewalks to be evidenced by a recorded cove-
nant and notation in address file. Seconded by Commis-
sioner Budds and approved unanimously.
Chairman Seibert informed the applicant the request had
been approved with the deferment of the sidewalk and
block wall until such time as the property is either
sold or developed. A covenant will be recorded with the
deed of the property and notation made in City files.
B. PUBLIC HEARING:
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 47219
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 89 -971
ZONE VARIANCE 89 -981
Site: 5308 McCULLOCH
Planning Commission Minutes Page 6
May 9, 1989
Owner /Applicant: Mur -Sol, Inc.
132 E. LaPorte Street
Arcadia, CA 91006
Engineer: CivilTec Engineering, Inc.
2610 S. California Ave, Ste. B
Monrovia, CA 91016
Request: To allow the construction of
seven (7) detached condominium
units with 3 of the units
having guest parking spaces in
tandem rather than independ-
ently accessible in the R -2
Zone.
Chairman Seibert asked if the notices had been sent.
Director Dawson replied they had and presented the staff
report and a video.
The public hearing was opened.
Rick Shroads, CivilTec Engineering, 135 East LaPorte,
Arcadia, engineer for the project, stated that staff had
done a very good job in explaining the project. They
had worked with the applicant and engineers. Sidewalks
will be built on McCulloch, and there are currently
sidewalks on Freer. All conditions have been agreed to.
He stated they met all the Zoning requirements except
the tandem parking. The three units on Freer lend
themselves to this type of solution.
Chairman Seibert asked Director Dawson if the property
was shown as Institutional on the General Plan.
Director Dawson stated it was shown as Institutional on
the General Plan and Medium Density on the Zoning Map.
He further stated that later a discussion would be held
regarding a change to the Zoning Code to permit Institu-
tional uses in the residential zones with a Conditional
Use Permit.
Chairman Seibert stated that the next time the General
Plan is reviewed this could be included in the changes.
Director Dawson stated that was correct. There is an
Institutional Category in the General Plan, but not in
the Zoning Code. Basically the Institutional Category
was compatible with any of the Residential Zones.
Commissioner Coolman asked if they are now putting it
into residential use, could it revert to Institutional.
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 7
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h a t a s l o n g a s i t i s d e s i g n a t e d
I n s t i t u t i o n a l o n t h e G e n e r a l P l a n , i t c o u l d r e v e r t t o a n
i n s t i t u t i o n a l u s e w i t h t h e a p p r o v a l o f a C o n d i t i o n a l U s e
P e r m i t . I t c o u l d n o t h a p p e n w i t h o u t a C o n d i t i o n a l U s e
P e r m i t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d i t w a s a s a f e g u a r d .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d i t w a s .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d a g e n e r a l p l a n c h a n g e s h o u l d
b e i m p l e m e n t e d .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h e p r o c e s s c o u l d b e g o n e t h r o u g h
a n d t h e G e n e r a l P l a n a m e n d e d . D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d
i t c o u l d b e m a d e a c o n d i t i o n o f a p p r o v a l .
G r e g o r y B u t l e r , A r t e c h , 2 1 8 E . L o n g d e n , I r w i n d a l e ,
t h a n k e d t h e s t a f f f o r w o r k i n g s o c l o s e l y o n t h e p r o j e c t .
N o r m a l l y , t h e y t r y t o g e t a s m a n y u n i t s a s p o s s i b l e , b u t
i n t h i s c a s e t h e o w n e r w a n t e d t o f i t i n w i t h t h e R - 1
Z o n i n g a n d k e e p t h e c h a r a c t e r o f t h e n e i g h b o r h o o d .
B a s i c a l l y t h i s p r o j e c t d o e s k e e p t h e " R - 1 " l o o k o f t h e
a r e a . D i f f e r e n t e l e v a t i o n s h a v e b e e n d e s i g n e d f o r t h e
u n i t s s o i t w i l l l o o k l i k e t h e y h a v e b e e n b u i l t i n d i -
v i d u a l l y a n d n o t a s a c o n d o p r o j e c t . T h e y h a v e a l s o
k e p t a d e q u a t e s i d e y a r d s e t b a c k s a n d a s i n g l e s t o r y
p r o j e c t i n t h e b a c k t o a l l e v i a t e l o o k i n g d o w n o n t h e
a b u t t i n g h o m e s .
E d u a r d o L o p e z , 5 3 3 2 M c C u l l o c h , o w n e r o f t h e p r o p e r t y
w h i c h f a c e s t h e b a c k o f t h e d r i v e w a y s t a t e d h i s o n l y
c o n c e r n w a s p r i v a c y b e c a u s e t h e y w e r e a w a y f r o m t h e
s t r e e t a n d n o i s e .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t i n f o r m e d M r . L o p e z t h e r e w o u l d b e a s i x
f o o t b l o c k w a l l a l o n g t h e p r o p e r t y l i n e w h i c h w o u l d
s t i l l m a i n t a i n h i s p r i v a c y .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n a s k e d M r . L o p e z h o w f a r h i s r e s i -
d e n c e w a s f r o m t h e p r o p e r t y l i n e .
M r . L o p e z s t a t e d h e w a s 1 2 t o 1 4 f e e t f r o m t h e p r o p e r t y
l i n e .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s a i d t h a t w o u l d m a k e a t o t a l o f
a p p r o x i m a t e l y 3 8 f e e t o r m o r e b e t w e e n h i s h o m e a n d t h e
p r o p o s e d p r o j e c t .
J o s e p h M e r c a d o , 1 0 8 4 3 F r e e r S t r e e t , o w n e r o f t h e p r o p -
e r t y t o t h e e a s t o f t h e p r o p o s e d d e v e l o p m e n t , s t a t e d i t
w a s a g o o d p r o j e c t , b u t w a n t e d t h e o m i s s i o n o f s o m e
w i n d o w s b e c a u s e o f h i s p o o l .
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 8
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n a s k e d h o w f a r t h e p o o l w a s f r o m t h e
p r o p e r t y l i n e a n d h o w f a r h i s h o u s e w a s f r o m t h e p o o l .
M r . M e r c a d o s t a t e d i t w a s a b o u t 1 0 f e e t t o t h e p o o l a n d
1 0 f e e t f u r t h e r t o t h e h o u s e . T h e y a r e o b j e c t i n g t o
s o m e t h i n g l i k e a l a r g e p i c t u r e w i n d o w . h e w a n t e d t o b e
a b l e t o m a i n t a i n h i s p r i v a c y f o r t h e p o o l .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d h e d i d n o t b e l i e v e t h e r e w e r e
a n y l a r g e w i n d o w s o n t h a t s i d e .
C l a r e n c e M e s e r v e , 1 0 7 6 9 F r e e r S t r e e t , a s k e d w h a t t h e
a c c e s s w o u l d b e t o t h e h o u s e i n t h e n a r r o w c o r n e r .
H e w a s i n f o r m e d t h e y w o u l d b e u s i n g a d r i v e w a y o n t h e
p r o j e c t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s m o v e d t o c l o s e t h e p u b l i c h e a r i n g ,
s e c o n d e d b y C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n .
C o m m i s s i o n e r M u t o s t a t e d i t w a s a g o o d p r o j e c t . A l l
a s p e c t s a r e a c c e p t a b l e , b u t q u e s t i o n e d t h e t a n d e m p a r k -
i n g i n f r o n t o f t h e g a r a g e s . T h e y d i d t r y t o m a k e t h i s
p r o j e c t s i m i l a r t o s i n g l e f a m i l y p r o j e c t s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s s t a t e d t h a t w i t h r e g a r d t o M r .
L o p e z ' s c o n c e r n , t h e r e i s a n a l l e y t h a t i s u s e d f o r
i n g r e s s a n d e g r e s s f o r h i s a r e a a n d t h e r e w i l l b e a
b l o c k w a l l . A l l s e t b a c k s e x c e e d a l l t h e m i n i m u m r e -
q u i r e m e n t s , i n c l u d i n g t h e r e a r y a r d a n d s i d e y a r d . T h i s
i s a n e x c e l l e n t p r o j e c t . L o o k i n g a t 7 u n i t s a s o p p o s e d
t o a m a x i m u m o f 1 0 t h a t c o u l d h a v e b e e n b u i l t . H e
s t a t e d h e w a s i n f a v o r o f g r a n t i n g a l l t h r e e r e q u e s t s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s e x p r e s s e d s a m e c o n c e r n s a b o u t t h e
p a r k i n g a s C o m m i s s i o n e r M u t o , h o w e v e r , t h e a p p l i c a n t i s
t r y i n g t o k e e p s i n g l e f a m i l y c h a r a c t e r t o t h e p r o j e c t
a n d R - 1 d o e s n o t r e q u i r e g u e s t p a r k i n g . W i t h t h e d e v e l -
o p m e n t l o o k i n g l i k e s i n g l e f a m i l y d e v e l o p m e n t h e s t a t e d
h e w a s i n f a v o r .
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p r o h i b i t e d c o n s t r u c t i o n o f a n y s t r u c t u r e s i n t h e p r i v a t e
y a r d a r e a . S h e s t a t e d t h a t l o o k i n g a t t h e s i d e y a r d s
a n d t h e r e q u i r e m e n t s , t h e o w n e r s w o u l d b e u n a b l e t o p u t
i n a p a t i o o r a n y t h i n g . S h e s t a t e d t h i s w a s r e s t r i c -
t i v e . T h e a p p l i c a n t h a s d o n e a n e x c e l l e n t j o b i n p r o -
v i d i n g s e t b a c k s .
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 9
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h a t P a t i o C o v e r s h a d n o t b e e n
c o n s i d e r e d . T h e i d e a w a s t o b e s u r e t h a t u n i f o r m i t y w a s
p r o v i d e d f o r a n d d i d n o t h a v e m o d i f i c a t i o n s t h a t w o u l d
m a k e f o r d i s s i m i l a r s t r u c t u r e s . I t w a s o n l y t o e n s u r e
a r c h i t e c t u r a l i n t e g r i t y .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n a s k e d i f p a t i o c o v e r s c o u l d b e
e x c l u d e d f r o m t h e r e q u i r e m e n t s .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h a t o n e s e n t e n c e c o u l d b e e x -
c l u d e d
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d i t c o u l d b e m o d i f i e d t o r e a d
" e x c e p t w i t h t h e p e r m i s s i o n o f t h e A s s o c i a t i o n . "
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s s t a t e d h e w o u l d b e i n f a v o r o f
a m e n d i n g t h e s e n t e n c e b u t n o t d e l e t i n g i t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d s h e d i d n o t h a v e a n y p r o b l e m
w i t h a m e n d i n g t h e s e n t e n c e .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d h e h a d n o p r o b l e m w i t h t h e
p r o j e c t . H e s t a t e d t h e y h a d f r o n t a g e o n F r e e r t o d e a l
w i t h t h e p a r k i n g a n d i t i s s i m i l a r t o a n R - 1 d e v e l o p m e n t
a n d w i t h s t r e e t f r o n t a g e i t w o u l d n o t p r e s e n t a p r o b l e m .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s m o v e d t o a p p r o v e T e n t a t i v e T r a c t
4 7 2 1 9 , C o n d i t i o n a l U s e P e r m i t 8 9 - 9 7 1 a n d Z o n e V a r i a n c e
8 9 - 9 8 1 b a s e d u p o n t h e f i n d i n g s a n d s u b j e c t t o t h e c o n -
d i t i o n s o f a p p r o v a l a s m o d i f i e d a n d c o n t a i n e d i n t h e
a t t a c h e d d r a f t r e s o l u t i o n . S e c o n d e d b y C o m m i s s i o n e r
C o o l m a n a n d a p p r o v e d u n a n i m o u s l y .
T h e a p p l i c a n t w a s i n f o r m e d t h e r e w a s a 1 0 d a y a p p e a l
p e r i o d i f a n y o n e d i s a g r e e d w i t h t h e d e c i s i o n .
C . P U B L I C H E A R I N G : Z O N E V A R I A N C E 8 9 - 9 9 3
S i t e : 9 8 3 7 M I L O A N N
O w n e r / A p p l i c a n t : R o n n i e L . B r o w n
9 8 3 7 M i l o a n n
T e m p l e C i t y , C A 9 1 7 8 0
R e q u e s t :
T o a l l o w t h e d e v e l o p m e n t o f a
t w o - s t o r y r o o m a d d i t i o n w i t h
a n 8 f o o t s e c o n d s t o r y s i d e
y a r d s e t b a c k i n s t e a d o f t h e
r e q u i r e d 1 0 f o o t s e c o n d s t o r y
s i d e y a r d s e t b a c k i n t h e R - 1
Z o n e .
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 1 0
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t a s k e d i f t h e n o t i c e s h a d b e e n s e n t .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n r e p l i e d t h e y h a d a n d p r e s e n t e d h i s s t a f f
r e p o r t a n d v i d e o .
T h e p u b l i c h e a r i n g w a s o p e n e d .
R o n a n d L i n d a B r o w n , 9 8 3 7 M i l o a n n , s t a t e d t h e y h a d a l s o
b r o u g h t a v i d e o a n d t h a t t h e y h a d s t a r t e d t h i s p r o j e c t
b a c k i n A u g u s t a n d a t t h a t t i m e t h e C i t y P l a n n e r c o n -
c u r r e d t h e y h a d a m p l e r o o m t o c o n s t r u c t a t w o s t o r y
a d d i t i o n u n d e r t h e p r e v a i l i n g r e q u i r e m e n t s a n d t h a t t h e y
r e c e i v e d a s u m m a r y s h e e t s h o w i n g t h o s e r e q u i r e m e n t s . N o
o n e m e n t i o n e d t h e r e w a s g o i n g t o b e a n y c h a n g e i n t h e
r e q u i r e m e n t s . S h e s t a t e d s h e c o n t a c t e d a c o n t r a c t o r
s o m e t i m e i n S e p t e m b e r a n d s p e n t s o m e t i m e g o i n g b a c k a n d
f o r t h w i t h p l a n c h a n g e s t o f i t t h e i r n e e d s a n d t o f i t
t h e n e i g h b o r h o o d . S h e s t a t e d t h e y a s k e d p r o f e s s i o n a l s
f o r o p i n i o n s t o b e s u r e t h e y w e r e n o t o v e r b u i l d i n g . S h e
f u r t h e r s t a t e d t h e y d i d n o t r e a l i z e t h e y h a d a d e a d l i n e
t o m e e t . M r s . B r o w n s t a t e d s h e w o u l d l i k e t o s h o w h e r
v i d e o .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d t h e y d i d n o t w a n t t o t a k e t h e
t i m e t o s e e t h e v i d e o , b u t r e q u e s t e d s h e c o n t i n u e h e r
p r e s e n t a t i o n .
M r s . B r o w n s t a t e d t h e y h a d t a k e n t h e v i d e o f r o m t h e t o p
o f t h e r o o f t o c l a r i f y a n y q u e s t i o n a s t o p r i v a c y .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t a s k e d s h e c o n t i n u e h e r t e s t i m o n y a n d i f
n e c e s s a r y t h e v i d e o c o u l d b e s h o w n
M r . B r o w n s t a t e d t h e y b e l i e v e d t h e y h a d e x c e p t i o n a l a n d
e x t r a o r d i n a r y c i r c u m s t a n c e s . W h e n t h e y s t a r t e d i n
A u g u s t , t h e C o d e r e q u i r e m e n t w a s 5 f e e t . T h e y h a v e b e e n
f u n d e d f o r t h e p r o j e c t s i n c e F e b r u a r y , 1 9 8 9 a s t h e y d i d
n o t r e a l i z e t h e r e w a s a t i m e p r o b l e m . P l a n s w e r e n o t
s u b m i t t e d u n t i l M a r c h a t w h i c h t i m e t h e y w e r e t o l d o f
t h e C o d e c h a n g e . T h e y h a d p l a n n e d t o s t a r t t h e p r o j e c t
i n J u n e a f t e r s c h o o l w a s o u t a s t h e y w o u l d h a v e t o m o v e
o u t o f t h e h o u s e d u r i n g c o n s t r u c t i o n . T h i s p r o p e r t y i s
a c o r n e r l o t a n d r e q u i r e s 1 0 f e e t . T h e p r o p o s e d p r o j e c t
c o n f o r m s t o t h e n o r m a l c o n f i g u r a t i o n o f t h e e x i s t i n g
s t r u c t u r e . H e s t a t e d i f t h e y h a d t o c h a n g e t h e i r p l a n s ,
i t w o u l d l o o k l i k e a n a d d - o n . H e s t a t e d t h e n e a r e s t
n e i g h b o r i n g s t r u c t u r e t o t h e a d d i t i o n i s s o m e 2 0 f e e t
w i t h a p a t i o a n d s c r e e n p r o v i d i n g p r i v a c y . T h e r e i s
a p p r o x i m a t e l y 2 8 f e e t b u f f e r z o n e b e t w e e n t h e p r o p e r t y
a n d t h e n e i g h b o r . I f f o r c e d t o m o v e n o r t h w i t h t h e
p l a n s , w e w i l l b e c l o s e r t o t h e n e i g h b o r ' s p o o l w i t h
t r e e s b e i n g r e m o v e d . H e d i d n o t f e e t t h e a d d i t i o n a l t w o
f e e t w o u l d g r a n t m o v e p r i v a c y o r s u n l i g h t t o a d j a c e n t
p r o p e r t i e s . H e s t a t e d t h e i r i n t e n t i o n w a s t o c o n f o r m t o
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 1 1
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
t h e t r e n d i n T e m p l e C i t y t o g o u p a n d n o t o u t . H e
s t a t e d i t w a s a g o o d p l a n f o r t h e n e i g h b o r h o o d a n d w o u l d
h e l p t h e v a l u e t o a p p r e c i a t e .
M r s . B r o w n p r e s e n t e d a s i g n e d p e t i t i o n a n d a g a i n r e -
q u e s t e d t h e y b e g i v e n p e r m i s s i o n t o s h o w t h e v i d e o .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s a s k e d t o s e e t h e v i d e o .
M r . B r o w n p r e s e n t e d t h e v i d e o s h o w i n g t h e p r o p e r t y a n d
i n d i c a t e d i t w o u l d n o t p r e s e n t a n i n v a s i o n o f p r i v a c y .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d t h a t w h e n t h e y h a d s t a r t e d t h e
p r o j e c t , t h e C o m m i s s i o n d i d n o t h a v e a n y i d e a t h a t t h e
r e q u i r e m e n t s w e r e g o i n g t o c h a n g e . I t w a s b r o u g h t u p
b e c a u s e o f s o m e o f t h e l a r g e h o m e s a n d c i t i z e n c o m -
p l a i n t s a b o u t t h e m l o o k i n g l i k e b o x e s .
M r . B r o w n s t a t e d t h e y h a d t h e i m p r e s s i o n t h a t 5 f e e t w a s
a l l t h a t w a s n e e d e d a n d w i t h 8 f e e t t h e y f e l t t h e y h a d
m o r e t h a n s u f f i c i e n t s p a c e t o a d d o n . P r i o r t o s u b m i t -
t i n g p l a n s t h e y h a d n o i d e a o f t h e c h a n g e .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t s t a t e d i t w a s t r u e i n A u g u s t , b u t n o t
i n F e b r u a r y w h e n t h e y s u b m i t t e d p l a n s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n c o m p l i m e n t e d t h e B r o w n s o n a n
e x c e l l e n t p r e s e n t a t i o n .
J o h n W i l d , 4 9 0 5 B a l d w i n , T e m p l e C i t y , c o n t r a c t o r f o r t h e
p r o j e c t , s t a t e d i f t h e y h a d k n o w n t h e r e w a s g o i n g t o b e
a c h a n g e , t h e y w o u l d h a v e s u b m i t t e d p l a n s i n N o v e m b e r
a n d h a v e m e t t h e 8 f o o t s e t b a c k . T h e y d i d n o t f e e l
t h e r e w a s a t i m e p r o b l e m t o d o s o . O n e o f t h e r e c o m m e n -
d a t i o n s t o t h e B r o w n s w a s t o m o v e o u t o f t h e h o m e d u r i n g
t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n p h a s e a n d d o i n g s o a f t e r s c h o o l w a s o u t
w o u l d b e l e s s d i s r u p t i v e t o t h e f a m i l y . T h e p l a n s c o u l d
h a v e b e e n s u b m i t t e d i n t i m e t o a v o i d t h i s p r o c e s s i f
t h e y h a d k n o w n a b o u t t h e Z o n e c h a n g e . T o m o v e t h e
p r o j e c t t w o f e e t b a c k w o u l d d e t r a c t f r o m t h e n e i g h b o r -
h o o d . H e s t a t e d h e u n d e r s t o o d t h e C o m m i s s i o n ' s c o n -
c e r n s . H e s a i d h e s a w c o n d o m i n i u m p r o j e c t s s p r i n g i n g u p
a l l o v e r a n d t h e y d o n o t h a v e t o m e e t t h e s a m e r e q u i r e -
m e n t s a s a h o m e o w n e r a n d i t s e e m e d t o h i m s i n g l e f a m i l y
r e s i d e n t i a l p r o p e r t y o w n e r s w e r e b e i n g h a m p e r e d .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t c l a r i f i e d t h a t d e v e l o p m e n t s i n R - 2 a n d
R - 3 Z o n e s h a v e s t r i c t e r s e t b a c k r e q u i r e m e n t s t h a n t h o s e
f o r R - 1 .
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Planning Commission Minutes Page 12
May 9, 1989
Richard and Loretta Tepler, 9843 Miloann, property
owners just east of the Brown project, stated they were
opposing the project as they had had only 5 days notice,
and he had been appointed neighborhood representative.
He presented a petition signed by 25 neighbors. He
stated that 90% of the people in the area are opposed to
the project. He stated they were aware of why the
setback requirements were changed, not only for privacy,
but because of lack of light and breeze. He stated he
was not concerned about his own loss of privacy as there
was sufficient foliage and screening, but was concerned
about the loss of light after 1:00 in the afternoon.
Commissioner Coolman asked if he was opposed to the two
story in general or the specific 8 foot side yard set-
back.
Mr. Tepler stated he was opposed to both. He stated
there was more than adequate property to build a single
story addition.
Commissioner Coolman informed Mr. Tepler that if the
Browns met the setback requirements they could build a
two -story addition without coming before the Commission.
Mr. Tepler stated that the construction people who drew
the plans knew they were illegal, in violation and
because the Browns were crowded they just wanted to
enlarge. He again stated he was concerned about the
loss of light and breeze.
Mrs. Tepler presented some pictures showing how dark the
present area was and reiterated that the new addition
would keep it dark all day and she would have a lack of
breeze.
Mr. Tepler asked why people were only given five days
notice. He asked why they could not have more notice.
Director Dawson stated the notices were mailed out 10
days prior to the meeting. He stated that Mr. Tepler
had visited City Hall on the Monday after the notices
had been mailed, which was the week before the hearing..
Mr. Tepler stated that was correct.
Chairman Seibert informed Mr. Tepler that 10 days was
the normal time for noticing.
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P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s P a g e 1 3
M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
M r s . T e p l e r s t a t e d s h e d i d n o t f e e l t h e n e i g h b o r h o o d h a d
b e e n c o n s i d e r e d i n b r i n g i n g u p t h e v a l u e o f t h e p r o p -
e r t y , b u t t h a t t h e i r s w o u l d d e p r e c i a t e b e c a u s e o f t h e
p r o p o s e d p r o p e r t y .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t i n f o r m e d M r s . T e p l e r t h a t d e p r e c i a t i o n
o r v a l u a t i o n o f a p r o p e r t y c a n n o t b e c o n s i d e r e d .
M r s B r o w n , s t a t e d t h e y h a d a f o u r b e d r o o m h o u s e a n d t h i s
w a s n o t a r u s h p a n i c s i t u a t i o n . T h e c o n t r a c t o r w a s n o t
i n v i o l a t i o n w h e n h e d r e w u p t h e p l a n s . H a d i t b e e n a
p a n i c d e c i s i o n , s h e s t a t e d t h e y w o u l d h a v e s u b m i t t e d
p l a n s b e f o r e t h e z o n i n g c h a n g e s w e r e m a d e . S h e s t a t e d
t h e y h a v e 3 t e e n a g e r s a n d n e e d e d t h e a d d i t i o n a l r o o m .
M r . B r o w n s t a t e d t h a t i f t h e r e w a s s u c h s t r o n g o p p o s i -
t i o n t o t h e b u i l d i n g t h e y w e r e c o n s t r u c t i n g , w h e r e w a s
t h e o p p o s i t i o n t o t h e b u i l d i n g a r o u n d t h e c o r n e r .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n m o v e d t o c l o s e t h e p u b l i c h e a r i n g .
S e c o n d e d b y C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s t h a n k e d b o t h s i d e s . T h e i s s u e i s n o t
w h e t h e r t h e a p p l i c a n t c a n b u i l d a s e c o n d s t o r y . I t i s
h i s p r o p e r t y a n d h e c a n d o s o w i t h i n t h e l a w . T h e
p r o p e r t y o w n e r h a s a n o p p o r t u n i t y w i t h n e w c o n s t r u c t i o n
t o c o m p l y w i t h t h e s e t b a c k r e q u i r e m e n t s . W h e t h e r o r n o t
t h e c o n t r a c t o r k n e w o r a t w h a t t i m e t h e z o n i n g l a w
c h a n g e d , i t w a s w i d e l y p u b l i c i z e d . H e s t a t e d h e w a s n o t
i n f a v o r o f t h e r e q u e s t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s s t a t e d h e a g r e e d w i t h C o m m i s -
s i o n e r B u d d s t h a t t h e t w o s t o r y w a s n o t t h e i s s u e . T h e
s e c o n d s t o r y c o n s t r u c t i o n i s p e r f e c t l y l e g a l a n d p r o p e r
i n a n y z o n e . T h e s i d e y a r d o r d i n a n c e a n d t h e c h a n g e
t h a t c a m e a b o u t a f e w m o n t h s w a s a n e f f o r t t o a l l e v i a t e
s o m e w h a t t h e c o n s i d e r a t i o n s o f " n o t n e x t d o o r t o m e " . A
g r e a t d e a l o f e f f o r t w a s p u t i n t o t h e c h a n g e s a n d i t w a s
n o t d o n e o v e r n i g h t . I t w a s a d v e r t i s e d . T h e n e w a d d i -
t i o n a s p r o p o s e d b y t h e B r o w n s , b e i n g n e w c o n s t r u c t i o n ,
c o u l d b e r e d e s i g n e d w i t h o u t a n y g r e a t t i m e o r e x p e n s e t o
a c c o m m o d a t e t h e s e t b a c k s p r e s e n t l y i n t h e o r d i n a n c e . H e
r e c o m m e n d e d d e n i a l o f t h e v a r i a n c e .
C o m m i s s i o n e r M u t o a g r e e d t h a t r e q u i r i n g t h e f u l l 1 0 f o o t
s e t b a c k w a s n o t u n r e a s o n a b l e . I f w e a l l o w t h i s v a r i a n c e
i t w o u l d c r e a t e a p r e c e d e n t . T h e o r d i n a n c e w a s p u t i n
p l a c e i n r e s p o n s e t o t h e c o m p l a i n t s o f t h e c i t i z e n s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d t h a t f o r t u n a t e l y f o r t h e
B r o w n s t h i s w a s a l a r g e l o t . S h e s t a t e d s h e c o u l d n o t
m a k e t h e f i n d i n g s t o a p p r o v e t h e r e q u e s t . S h e r e i t e r -
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ated they had done a great deal of study to get to the
10 foot sideyards. Obviously, it still does not make
everyone happy.
Chairman Seibert concurred with the other Commissioners.
However, in defense of the contractor, he stated he was
doing nothing illegal by drawing plans. It is perfectly
legal to draw anything and propose anything you want.
It would only be illegal if he constructed something
without proper permits. Unfortunately the Browns were
caught up in a change. He did not feel it was a major
problem to redesign the addition to meet the required
setbacks.
Commissioner Budds moved to deny Zone Variance 89 -993
based upon the findings. Seconded by Commissioner Muto
and approved unanimously.
Chairman Seibert informed the Browns there was a 10 day
appeal period.
7. COMMUNICATIONS:
None
8. TIME FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK:
Eduardo Lopez, 5322 McCulloch asked if there was any way a
moratorium could be placed on tearing down of trees in the
City.
Chairman Seibert informed Mr. Lopez that no action could be
taken tonight. He suggested Mr. Lopez contact the Community
Development Director and it would be brought before the
proper Commission.
9. MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS:
Commissioner Muto stated he had learned that Lieberg's was
leaving Temple City, and there had been an issue before the
Planning Commission last fall about possible redevelopment
of the entire block.
Community Director Dawson stated a meeting had been held with
Lieberg's, the City Manager and himself to discuss the situa-
tion and they were committed to leaving Temple City. Director
Dawson stated Katz Hollis, a consulting firm specializing in
redevelopment, had been contacted regarding a possible feasi-
bility study for the area It is hoped the information can be
taken to the next City Council meeting. If all goes well,
there will be an opportunity to look at the possibilities of
forming another redevelopment area.
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M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s a s k e d f o r a n u p d a t e o n t h e p o s s i b l e
c h a n g e i n t h e d r i v e w a y w i d t h q u e s t i o n f o r 5 o r l e s s p a r k i n g
p l a c e s .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d h e h a d 5 C o d e A m e n d m e n t s p e n d i n g a n d
t h e y w o u l d b e p r e s e n t e d a s a p a c k a g e f o r o n e p u b l i c h e a r i n g
e v e n t h o u g h t h e y a r e u n r e l a t e d i t e m s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d w e h a v e h a d c o m p l a i n t s a b o u t t h e
s e c o n d s t o r i e s a n d o n e o f t h e c o n c e r n s i s t h e f a c t t h a t w e
f r e q u e n t l y h a v e a f o o t p r i n t t h a t m e e t s t h e 5 0 % r e q u i r e m e n t
b u t w i t h a s e c o n d s t o r y y o u h a v e a l o t o f h o u s e f o r t h e
a m o u n t o f l o t . S h e s t a t e d s h e w a s a t a b u i l d i n g d e p a r t m e n t
t h a t h a d a s o l u t i o n t o t h i s . T h e y u s e a 6 0 % f l o o r a r e a ,
i n c l u d i n g g a r a g e , r a t i o t o l o t s i z e . S h e s t a t e d t h a t m i g h t
h a v e s o m e v a l u e . S h e s t a t e d s e v e r a l l o c a l c i t i e s h a v e t h a t
t y p e o f r a t i o . I t m i g h t b e w o r t h c o n s i d e r i n g .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h a t a n u m b e r o f C i t i e s , i n c l u d i n g S a n
D i e g o , r e g u l a t e t h i s b y a n F . A . R . w h i c h i s f l o o r a r e a r a t i o ,
a n d p e r h a p s t h e C o m m i s s i o n w o u l d l i k e t o t a k e a l o o k a t t h a t
i n t e r m s o f l i m i t i n g t h e b u l k a n d s c a l e . I n a d d i t i o n t o t h e
f r o n t , r e a r a n d s i d e y a r d s e t b a c k s , F . A . R . i s a w a y o f r e -
s t r i c t i n g d e v e l o p m e n t s o t h a t y o u d o n o t h a v e o v e r d e v e l o p -
m e n t . H e s t a t e d h e w o u l d b e p r o v i d i n g t h e C o m m i s s i o n s o m e
b a c k g r o u n d i n f o r m a t i o n a t a l a t e r d a t e .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s s t a t e d t h a t a t t h e l a s t m e e t i n g h e h a d
r a i s e d h i s c o n c e r n w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e o r d i n a n c e o n C o n d i -
t i o n a l U s e P e r m i t s . T h e p r e s s a c t i v i t y w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e
p a r o l e o f f i c e i n A l h a m b r a a n d P a s a d e n a p i q u e d h i s i n t e r e s t a s
t o h o w t h a t w o u l d a p p l y t o T e m p l e C i t y . H e p r e s e n t e d a
h y p o t h e t i c a l p r o b l e m w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e i n s t i t u t i o n a l l a n d
u s e . C o u l d s o m e o n e c o m e i n a n d p u t u p a p a r o l e o f f i c e w i t h -
o u t c o m i n g b e f o r e t h e C o m m i s s i o n o r C i t y C o u n c i l .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n s t a t e d t h a t i n t h e G e n e r a l P l a n t h e r e w a s a n
i n s t i t u t i o n a l c a t e g o r y a n d i n t e r m s o f z o n i n g , i t i s s o m e -
t i m e s R - 1 , R - 2 , R - 3 , o r m i g h t e v e n b e c o m m e r c i a l l y z o n e d . T h e
i n t e n t i o n w a s t h a t i t w o u l d r e q u i r e a C o n d i t i o n a l U s e P e r m i t
t o c o m e i n w i t h a n y t y p e o f i n s t i t u t i o n a l u s e . H e s t a t e d
t h a t C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s c o n c e r n s h a d b r o u g h t t o l i g h t t h e
f a c t t h a t w e d o n o t h a v e a n e x h a u s t i v e l i s t o f a l l i n s t i t u -
t i o n a l u s e s t h a t w o u l d b e p e r m i t t e d . W e s p e c i f i e d t h a t
c o n v a l e s c e n t h o s p i t a l s a r e p e r m i t t e d i n t h e R - 3 Z o n e w i t h a
c o n d i t i o n a l u s e p e r m i t , b u t i t d o e s n o t s p e c i f y R - 2 a n d R - 1 .
I t i s a n o v e r s i g h t i n t h e Z o n i n g C o d e a n d i n o r d e r t o h a v e
c o n s i s t e n c y b e t w e e n t h e G e n e r a l P l a n a n d t h e Z o n i n g C o d e w e
d o n e e d t o h a v e a Z o n i n g C o d e a m e n d m e n t w h e r e i n s t i t u t i o n a l
u s e s w o u l d b e p e r m i t t e d w i t h a C o n d i t i o n a l U s e P e r m i t a n d w e
c o u l d e x p a n d o n t h a t t o i n c l u d e o t h e r t h i n g s b e s i d e s c o n v a -
l e s c e n t h o s p i t a l s , s u c h a s j a i l f a c i l i t i e s , o r p a r o l e , p r o b a -
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M a y 9 , 1 9 8 9
t i o n o f f i c e s , s c h o o l s , c h u r c h e s , o r a n y t y p e o f i n s t i t u t i o n a l
u s e . I t w o u l d m a k e s u r e w e w o u l d n o t h a v e s o m e t y p e o f u s e
w i t h o u t t h e P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n h a v i n g t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o
l o o k a t t h e p r o j e c t .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d t h e r e a r e v a r i o u s i n s t i t u t i o n a l
u s e s a n d o f f i c e i n s t i t u t i o n a l u s e s .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d h e w a s c o n c e r n e d a b o u t t h e T e n t a -
t i v e T r a c t M a p t h a t i s n o t c o n s i s t e n t w i t h t h e G e n e r a l P l a n
c a t e g o r y .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d i t h a d t o h a v e a G e n e r a l P l a n
A m e n d m e n t p r i o r t o f i n a l m a p a p p r o v a l . H e f u r t h e r s t a t e d t h e
a p p l i c a n t s h o u l d b e s o a d v i s e d .
C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t a n d C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d t h a t h a d
b e e n t h e i n t e n t .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s s t a t e d h i s c o n c e r n w a s n o t a p r o o r c o n
s i t u a t i o n . I t w a s t o m a k e s u r e w e d i d n o t g e t b e h i n d a n d i f
w e s e e a p o t e n t i a l i n t e r e s t t o t h e c o m m u n i t y w e s h o u l d h a v e a
v e h i c l e b y w h i c h t h e a p p l i c a n t w o u l d h a v e t o c o m e i n a n d g i v e
t h e c o m m u n i t y a n o p p o r t u n i t y t o b e h e a r d .
C o m m i s s i o n e r B u d d s s a i d h e h a d j u s t l o o k e d a t C o n d i t i o n a l
U s e s a n d h e d i d n o t s e e a n y t h i n g t h a t w o u l d p e r t a i n .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d t h a t a n y t y p e o f g o v e r n m e n t a l
o f f i c e s h o u l d p r o b a b l y c o m e u n d e r a C o n d i t i o n a l u s e P e r m i t
a n d a s k e d C i t y A t t o r n e y M a r t i n i f t h a t c o u l d b e d o n e .
C i t y A t t o r n e y M a r t i n s t a t e d t h e S t a t e a n d F e d e r a l g o v e r n m e n t s
c a n d o w h a t t h e y w a n t . H e s t a t e d h e s a w t h e o t h e r p r o b l e m a
l i t t l e d i f f e r e n t l y . W e h a v e a g e n e r a l p l a n t h a t h a s a n
i n s t i t u t i o n a l d e s i g n a t i o n a n d y e t w e h a v e n o z o n i n g t h a t h a s
i n s t i t u t i o n a l . W h a t i s m i s s i n g i s t h e Z o n i n g c l a s s i f i c a t i o n
f o r " I n s t i t u t i o n a l " . W e c o u l d h a v e a z o n i n g c l a s s i f i c a t i o n
d e s i g n a t e d i n s t i t u t i o n a l a n d a l l u s e s s u b j e c t t o a C o n d i -
t i o n a l U s e P e r m i t .
C i t y M a n a g e r K o s k i s t a t e d w e w a n t e d t o b e v e r y e x p l i c i t a s
t o w h a t t h o s e i n s t i t u t i o n a l u s e s a r e .
C i t y A t t o r n e y M a r t i n s t a t e d t h a t p r i m a r i l y i n s t i t u t i o n a l u s e s
a r e p r i v a t e . H e a l s o s t a t e d a n " I " Z o n e i s a f l o a t i n g z o n e
o v e r a l l z o n e s .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n a s k e d i f w e c o u l d a c c o m p l i s h t h e s a m e t h i n g
b y d o i n g a Z o n i n g C o d e A m e n d m e n t w i t h g r o u p s o f u s e s s u c h a s
i n s t i t u t i o n a l , g o v e r n m e n t a l , e t c , a l l o w i n g t h o s e t y p e s o f
u s e s i n a n y z o n e w i t h a C o n d i t i o n a l U s e P e r m i t .
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C i t y A t t o r n e y M a r t i n s t a t e d t h e y c o u l d c r e a t e t h e " I " Z o n e ,
o r I n s t i t u t i o n a l Z o n e a s a f l o a t i n g z o n e , w h i c h a t t a c h e s t o
a l l z o n e s e x c e p t r e s i d e n t i a l a n d a s t o w h i c h a l l u s e s s h a l l
b e a c o n d i t i o n a l u s e .
C o m m i s s i o n e r G r i f f i t h s s t a t e d t h a t w i t h t h e i n c r e a s e d d e n s i t y
a n d p o p u l a t i o n , i n c r e a s e s a r e g o i n g t o h a v e a n e f f e c t o n t h e
a v a i l a b i l i t y o f d r i n k i n g w a t e r a n d t h e a b i l i t y t o g e t r i d o f
t r a s h . I s t h e r e a n y w a y t o t i e t h o s e t y p e s o f c o n d i t i o n s
i n t o w h a t t h e C o m m i s s i o n a p p r o v e s o r d e n i e s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r C o o l m a n s t a t e d t h a t w a s w h a t E . I . R . ' s w e r e f o r .
1 0 . A D J O U R N M E N T :
A s t h e r e w a s n o f u r t h e r b u s i n e s s , C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t a d j o u r n e d
t h e m e e t i n g a t 9 : 1 0 p . m . T h e n e x t r e g u l a r m e e t i n g o f t h e
P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n w i l l b e h e l d o n T u e s d a y , M a y 2 3 , 1 9 8 9 a t
7 : 3 0 P . M . i n t h e C o u n c i l C h a m b e r , 5 9 3 8 N o r t h K a u f f m a n A v e n u e ,
T e m p l e C i t y .
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