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C I T Y O F T E M P L E C I T Y
C I T Y C O U N C I L A N D P L A N N I N G C O M M I S S I O N
J O I N T S P E C I A L M E E T I N G
J U L Y 9 , 1 9 9 2
1 . C A L L M E E T I N G T O O R D E R -
A t 7 : 0 0 p . m . t h e s p e c i a l m e e t i n g w a s c a l l e d t o o r d e r b y M a y o r
M c G o w a n .
2 . R O L L C A L L -
C o u n c i l m e m b e r s B r e a z e a l , B u d d s , M a n n i n g , W i l s o n a n d M a y o r
M c G o w a n a n d P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n e r s G r i f f i t h s , M u t o , S o u d e r a n d
V i c e - C h a i r m a n S e i b e r t
3 . T I M E F O R T H O S E I N T H E A U D I E N C E W H O W I S H T O S P E A K -
N o n e
4 . C O N S E N T C A L E N D A R :
N o n e
5 . F O L L O W - U P D I S C U S S I O N O F C O M P O N E N T S O F T H E S P E C I F I C P L A N -
A . D I S C U S S I O N O F I M A G E M A P / C O N F I R M A T I O N O F D O W N T O W N S U B A R E A S
M a r k B r o d e u r , U r b a n D e s i g n S t u d i o , s t a t e d t h a t t h e i m a g e
m a p w a s t h e r e s u l t o f w h a t w a s c o n t a i n e d i n t h e A d H o c
C o m m i t t e e R e p o r t a n d f r o m t h e W o r k s h o p . T h e C o u n c i l a n d
C o m m i s s i o n a g r e e d w i t h t h e s u b - a r e a s a s d e s i g n a t e d .
B . R E V I E W A N D D I S C U S S I O N O F O V E R A L L D O W N T O W N G O A L S ,
O B J E C T I V E S A N D P O L I C I E S
M r . B r o d e u r a s k e d i f t h e r e w e r e a n y c o m m e n t s r e g a r d i n g
t h e p r o p o s e d g o a l s a n d o b j e c t i v e s .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l s t a t e d t h a t h e h a d s o m e c o n c e r n s
w i t h O b j e c t i v e 3 o n P a g e 2 , " P r o t e c t h i g h q u a l i t y s i n g l e
f a m i l y r e s i d e n t i a l n e i g h b o r h o o d s f r o m i n c o m p a t i b l e m u l t i -
f a m i l y o r c o m m e r c i a l i n t r u s i o n t h r o u g h t h e u s e o f d e s i g n ,
t e c h n i q u e s " . H e s a i d t h a t t h e m a j o r i t y o f t h e z o n i n g
a r o u n d t h e d o w n t o w n w a s m u l t i p l e f a m i l y , a n d h e d i d n o t
w a n t t h e c o m m e r c i a l d e v e l o p m e n t r e s t r i c t e d b e c a u s e t h e
l o t w a s c u r r e n t l y i m p r o v e d w i t h a s i n g l e f a m i l y r e s i d e n c e
t h a t c o u l d s o m e d a y h a v e a m u l t i p l e f a m i l y u s e . H e s a i d
i t w a s n o t c o n s i s t e n t w i t h t h e m a p s a n d w o u l d r e s t r i c t
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July 9, 1992
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the type of commercial development which would defeat the
purpose of the Specific Plan.
Mr. Brodeur said that he understood that concern, but he
was trying to protect the existing homes from large
commercial developments.
Councilmember Breazeal asked how he would accomplish the
objective.
Mr. Brodeur said that if the area was zoned R -3 but
improved with single family uses, then any commercial
development could not intrude into the residential area
so that it would minimize the impact upon those
residences. He illustrated on a pad of paper how the
building heights could be stair - stepped to reduce the
effect upon the residential area and then illustrated
Councilmember Breazeal's point saying that at some future
time those homes could be apartment houses. He concluded
by stating that the Council and Commission needed to make
the decision.
Commissioner Griffiths said he agreed with Councilmember
Breazeal, but asked that those areas that were zoned R -1
be protected from intrusion from the commercial area.
Commissioner Muto agreed with Councilmember Breazeal
comments.
Mayor Pro -Tem Manning felt that if commercial development
was allowed to be built to the maximum, there would be a
lot of residents upset. She said she understood that it
could be currently zoned R -3, but it may not have been
zoned that when the purchased the property and then a
large commercial building could be placed near it. She
said she would not support this objective.
Councilmember Budds said he was surprised to see how many
R -3 zoned lots there were and unfortunately that was what
the zoning was. He asked what the position of this
property owners at the time of the rezoning.
Councilmember Breazeal said it was mixed, just like
Cloverly and Alessandro; there were some who supported a
higher density and some who did not.
Councilmember Budds said he agreed with Councilmember
Breazeal's comments and said that the area should be
development to it current zoning.
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J o i n t C i t y C o u n c i l / P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s
J u l y 9 , 1 9 9 2
P a g e 3
C o u n c i l m e m b e r W i l s o n a l s o a g r e e d a n d V i c e - C h a i r m a n
S e i b e r t s a i d t h a t y o u c o u l d n o t p l e a s e e v e r y o n e a n d f e l t
t h a t i f t h e z o n i n g w a s m u l t i p l e f a m i l y i t s h o u l d b e
d e v e l o p e d a s s u c h .
C o m m i s s i o n e r s S o u d e r a n d K e e l i n a g r e e d .
M a y o r M c G o w a n a g r e e d w i t h M a y o r P r o - T e m M a n n i n g a n d s a i d
s h e w o u l d p r e f e r t h a t t h e z o n i n g b e c h a n g e d t o R - 1 a n d
s h o u l d m a i n t a i n a s m a l l c o m m u n i t y r a t h e r t h a n f i v e s t o r y
c o m m e r c i a l b u i l d i n g s .
C o m m i s s i o n e r S o u d e r a s k e d h o w c h a n g e s c o u l d b e m a d e t o
t h e G e n e r a l P l a n i n a y e a r .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l s a i d f o u r a y e a r .
C o m m i s s i o n e r S o u d e r s a i d h e u n d e r s t o o d t h e c o n c e r n s w i t h
t h o s e c u r r e n t l y l i v i n g i n t h e m u l t i p l e f a m i l y z o n e s , b u t
u n f o r t u n a t e l y t h e z o n i n g a l l o w s f o r a h i g h e r d e n s i t y a n d
t h e c o m m e r c i a l d e v e l o p m e n t c o u l d b e b u i l t t o t h e m a x i m u m .
M r . B r o d e u r s a i d t h a t t h e r e a p p e a r e d t o b e a c o n s e n s u s t o
p r o t e c t t h e R - 1 z o n e d p a r c e l s a n d t o a l l o w t h e m a x i m u m
d e v e l o p m e n t i n t h e c o m m e r c i a l z o n e s t h a t a b u t t h e R - 2 a n d
R - 3 z o n e s .
M a y o r M c G o w a n a s k e d t h a t t h e r e c o r d r e f l e c t a n d s h e a n d
M a y o r P r o - T e m M a n n i n g d i d n o t a g r e e w i t h t h e o b j e c t i v e .
C o m m i s s i o n e r S o u d e r s t a t e d t h a t o n p a g e 3 , i t e m 4 t h e
o b j e c t i v e a d d r e s s e s w i n d o w m a i n t e n a n c e a n d u s e o f v a c a n t
w i n d o w s p a c e .
M r . B r o d e u r s a i d t h a t v a c a n t s t o r e f r o n t s m a y p r o v i d e a n
o p p o r t u n i t y f o r a d v e r t i s i n g f o r a s t o r e d o w n t h e s t r e e t
a n d a l s o p r o v i d e t h e v a c a n t s t o r e o w n e r w i t h a n
o p p o r t u n i t y t o l e a s e h i s s p a c e .
T h e r e w a s s o m e d i s c u s s i o n a b o u t o b j e c t i v e 6 o n p a g e 3
w h i c h r e q u i r e d t h e e x p e d i t i o u s r e m o v a l o f s i g n s t h a t d i d
n o t c o n f o r m w i t h t h e r e g u l a t i o n s . S o m e f e l t t h a t t h e
c u r r e n t c o d e w a s n o t b e i n g e n f o r c e d a n d o t h e r s t h o u g h t
t h a t t h e o b j e c t i v e p r o v i d e d a d d i t i o n a l s t e p s f o r r e m o v a l .
A l l a g r e e d t h a t t h e o b j e c t i v e w a s a c c e p t a b l e .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l a s k e d a b o u t o b j e c t i v e 4 o n p a g e 4 ,
e n s u r i n g g r a d u a l u p g r a d e o f u n d e r - u t i l i z e d p a r c e l s a n d
h o w i t w o u l d b e a c c o m p l i s h e d .
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July 9, 1992
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Mr. Brodeur said that it would be done through a facade
improvement and more urban standards for commercial
development in the area and for properties that are
under - utilized, the regulations would be more
progressive.
Commissioner Souder asked how the Economic Development
Department could attract new business.
Mr. Brodeur would use facade improvement programs, help
promote the businesses as well as common advertising for
the downtown.
Councilmember Wilson wanted an objective added that would
utilize a vacant store front for senior citizen
activities.
Mr. Brodeur said that a policy could be added to
establish and promote senior retail and cultural
activities in the downtown.
Councilmember Breazeal asked for a clarification of
policy 7 on page 6 which would limit existing and future
vehicular access on Las Tunas Drive.
Mr. Brodeur illustrated to the Council and Commission
that it would restrict vehicle access in the middle of
the block to the rear of the buildings in the City Center
District.
C. REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF LAND USE MAP AND PERMITTED USE
MATRIX.
Mr. Brodeur explained the districts on the land use map.
He also stated that Cal Hollis provided input, and
therefore, the TC District between Cloverly and Primrose
should be changed to CC District and the Landmark
District should be changed to the CC District. He also
stated that the TC District on Oak and Woodruff would be
retained for limited commercial development.
All members agreed with the changes.
Mr. Brodeur stated that Cal Hollis had also reviewed the
land use matrix and felt that there some uses that should
not be limited, athletic gyms, book and gift stationary
stores, clothing and apparel, computer and video
equipment department stores, food /grocery stores,
furniture stores, hobbies /craft stores, pet shops,
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J o i n t C i t y C o u n c i l / P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s
J u l y 9 , 1 9 9 2
P a g e 5
r e c o r d / t a p e / v i d e o s t o r e s , s p o r t i n g g o o d s a n d T V / r a d i o a n d
e l e c t r o n i c c o m p o n e n t s a l e s .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l s a i d t h a t h e d i d n o t f e e l a
c o n d i t i o n a l u s e p e r m i t w a s n e c e s s a r y i f a u s e w a s
p e r m i t t e d a n d a d e q u a t e p a r k i n g w a s p r o v i d e d .
M a y o r M c G o w a n s a i d t h a t s h e s e e s a l o t o f w e d d i n g s h o p s ,
n a i l s h o p s a n d v i d e o s t o r e s .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l s a i d t h a t u n l e s s y o u a r e d e a l i n g
w i t h a n a d u l t s t o r e , y o u c a n n o t r e s t r i c t a c e r t a i n t y p e
o f b u s i n e s s f r o m c o m i n g i n t o t h e C i t y . H e a l s o a s k e d i f
t h e s q u a r e f o o t a g e w a s b a s e d u p o n a s t u d y .
M r . B r o d e u r s a i d t h a t h e d i s c u s s e d i t w i t h C a l H o l l i s a n d
b a s e d t h e s q u a r e f o o t a g e o n l o t s i z e . H e a s k e d t h a t t h e
g r o u p l o o k a t t h e u s e s a n d d i s c u s s t h e o n e s t h e y d i d n o t
w a n t .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B u d d s a s k e d h o w t h e g r o u p f e l t a b o u t b a r s
a n d c o c k t a i l l o u n g e s .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l s t a t e d t h a t h e p r e f e r r e d t h e y b e
i n t h e W C D i s t r i c t w i t h a C U P . A l l c o n c u r r e d .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n a s k e d a b o u t b i l l i a r d / p o o l c e n t e r s . T h e
g r o u p s a i d t h a t a C U P s h o u l d b e r e q u i r e d . T h e y a l s o f e l t
t h a t p i n b a l l a n d G a m e a r c a d e s s h o u l d b e C U P i n a l l
d i s t r i c t s .
I t w a s a l s o a g r e e d t h a t n o c a r w a s h e s s h o u l d b e a l l o w e d
i n a n y d i s t r i c t s .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n a s k e d w h a t a m i x e d u s e w a s .
M r . B r o d e u r s a i d t h a t i t w a s t w o s e p a r a t e l a n d u s e s o n a
s i n g l e p r o p e r t y - - h o u s i n g u p s t a i r s a n d r e t a i l d o w n s t a i r s .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n a s k e d i f t h e g r o u p w a n t e d t o p e r m i t t h e m
w i t h o u t a p u b l i c h e a r i n g .
C o u n c i l m e m b e r B r e a z e a l s a i d t h a t i f t h e r e q u i r e d p a r k i n g
w a s p r o v i d e d t h e n n o . p u b l i c h e a r i n g s h o u l d b e r e q u i r e d .
D i r e c t o r D a w s o n a s k e d a b o u t t h e m u l t i p l e t e n a n t m e r c h a n t
" m a r t a n d r e q u i r i n g a C U P .
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July 9, 1992
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Mr. Brodeur said that it was a P4 which meant there would
be special requirements. He also stated that nail shops
would require a CUP.
Commissioner Souder said that then the pressure would be
placed on the Planning Commission whether or not to
permit the use. He said it should be permitted and all
agreed.
All agreed that restaurants with incidental serving of
beer and wine should be permitted.
It was decided that the psychic reader use would
reference the requirements as stated in the Zoning Code.
Second hand /thrift stores in the CC District should
require a CUP.
Tennis courts, churches and veterinary offices /animal
hospitals were removed.
Wedding chapels will be changed from CUP to permitted.
Outdoor art exhibits were changed from CUP to permitted.
Government offices and facilities was changed to City
Government offices and facilities.
Convalescent homes was removed from CC District and
single room occupancy was removed from all districts.
Multiple Family /Condominiums 18 du /ac maximum in the CC
district was changed to C6 and in TC district was changed
to P6. The Council and Commission wanted all housing on
the upper floors only.
D. OPPORTUNITY AREAS FOR LOT CONSOLIDATION
E. REVISED WORK SCHEDULE FOR PLAN PREPARATION AND ADOPTION
6. TIME FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THE
SPECIFIC PLAN
7. ADJOURNMENT:
Mayor McGowan adjourned the meeting at 9:04 p.m. The next
regular meeting of the City Council will be on Tuesday, July
21, 1992, at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers located at 5938
Kauffman Avenue, Temple City. The next regular meeting of the
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J o i n t C i t y C o u n c i l / P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n M i n u t e s
J u l y 9 , 1 9 9 2
P a g e 7
P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n w i l l b e o n T u e s d a y , J u l y 1 4 , 1 9 9 2 , a t 7 : 3 0
p . m . i n t h e C o u n c i l C h a m b e r s l o c a t e d a t 5 9 3 8 K a u f f m a n A v e n u e ,
T e m p l e C i t y .
A T T E S T :
S e c r e t a r y
S A R / M I N S / 1 6 8 4 . 1
M a y o r