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McCall City Council
Regular Meeting
McCall City Hall
VIA Teams Virtual Meeting
July 9, 2020
Call to Order and Roll Call
Pledge of Allegiance
Approve the Agenda
Consent Agenda
Public Comment
Interviews and Board Appointments
Presentation
Business Agenda
Adjournment
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Mayor Giles called the regular meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m.
Mayor Giles, Council Member Holmes, Council Member Maciaszek, Council Member
Nielsen, and Council Member Sowers all answered roll call.
City staff members present were Anette Spickard, City Manager; Bill Nichols, City Attorney;
BessieJo Wagner, City Clerk; Erin Greaves, Communications Manager; Linda Stokes, City
Treasurer; Michelle Groenevelt, Community Development Director; Delta James, Economic
Development Planner; Traci Malvich, Human Resources Manager; Justin Williams, Police Chief;
Also, in attendance was Toni Curtis; Nick Zello; Diane Kushlan; Phil Kushlan; Pat Hill; Robert
Lyons; Jacob Maupin; Joey Pietri; Maggie Weissman; Alec Williams, Trident Holdings; Anna
Lindquist and Casey O'Leary, McCall Outdoor School of Science;
Mayor Giles led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVE THE AGENDA
Council Member Council Member Maciaszek moved to approve the agenda as submitted.
Council Member Council Member Holmes seconded the motion.In a voice vote all members
voted aye and the motion carried.
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CONSENT AGENDA
Staff recommended approval of the following ACTION ITEMS. All matters which are listed
within the consent section of the agenda have been distributed to each member of the McCall City
Council for reading and study. Items listed are considered routine by the Council and were enacted
with one motion.
1. Regular Council Minutes June 18, 2020
2. Special Council Minutes June 30, 2020
3. Payroll Report for period ending June 12, 2020
4. Payroll Report for period ending June 26, 2020
5. Warrant Register—GL
6. Warrant Register—Vendor
7. Accept the Minutes of the following Committees
a. Airport Advisory Committee—March 20, 2020
b. Golf Advisory Committee—March 11, 2020
c. Golf Advisory Committee—May 20, 2020
8. Accept Chamber of Commerce Report
9. AB 20-191 City Licenses Report to Council Per McCall City Code: Per McCall City
Code Title 4 Chapter 9, the City Council has determined that the City Clerk shall be
delegated the authority to process and grant or deny all alcoholic beverage license
applications, other than certain circumstances involving catering permits, which the city
clerk shall review the application for catering permit for completeness and forward said
application to the Police Chief.The Police Chief upon receipt of the application shall make
a recommendation to the City Clerk to approve or deny the application. Whenever the City
Clerk shall determine that an application for alcoholic beverage license transfer or renewal
is complete,the City Clerk shall approve or deny such application.All decisions of the City
Clerk shall be reported to the City Council at the next regularly scheduled City Council
meeting after such decision. The City Clerk is also responsible for all processing of
business, taxi, snow removal, pawnbroker, child daycare licenses, vendor permits, and
public event applications. As the State begins reopening businesses, the City is allowing
permits depending on the circumstance until further notice. Licenses are still being
processed.Action: Council review the License report.
10. AB 20-186 Request to Approve Plan-It License Agreement (Capital Improvement
Plan Software): The City's Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) is currently
managed in an Excel Workbook. While it is possible to manage the CIP in Excel, it is not
the most efficient way to do so. Spreadsheets are difficult to manage from year to year. An
inordinate amount of time is spent each year rolling the CIP forward; adding/deleting
columns,tying new/updated request worksheets together with the five-year summary sheet,
and making sure all the formulas are working.correctly. The CIP worksheet is a complex
worksheet that currently only one person knows how it all functions and works. Plan-It is
a software solution that makes data entry simple by just filling in the blanks. It will make
it easy for more than one person in Finance to share the responsibility for data entry. Plan-
It will save staff time in the budgeting process and produce the Capital Improvement Plan
by collecting the same information currently collected and stored in the City's CIP Excel
worksheet. It collects project description and justification, expenditure amounts and fund
sources. It also provides greater reporting capability with automatic reports and exports
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that summarizes data in many ways. Action: Approve the Plan-IT License Agreement for
Capital Improvement Plan Software and authorize the Mayor to sign all necessary
documents.
11. AB 20-188 Library Board of Trustees Member Appointment—David Gallipoli: An ad
ran in the Star-News to fill a current vacancy on the Library Board of Trustees. One letter
of interest was received by David Gallipoli. The Library Board voted unanimously on June
18, 2020 to recommend Mr. Gallipoli for appointment. The City Manager has reviewed
Mr. Gallipoli's application and concurs with the appointment recommendation. The
Library Board of Trustees advocates for the library and literacy, hires and evaluates the
library director, monitors overall effectiveness of the library as a social institution and sets
library policies and plans strategic goals to better serve the community. Trustees are
volunteers who serve for a term of five years. Mr. Gallipoli would finish the term of service
in place of Mr. John Milliner, who has just moved out of state. Library Trustees are
recommended by current board members and appointed by the City Manager and
confirmed by City Council.Action:Appoint David Gallipoli to the McCall Public Library
Board of Trustees for a term to expire October 2022.
12. AB 20-189 Request Approval of the McCall Youth Football Club and Parks &
Recreation Memorandum of Understanding: McCall Youth Football Club (MYFC)is a
youth sports organization that has replaced the Optimist Football Program and offers full-
contact football coaching and games for local youth. The club has non-profit status and
needs program registration assistance. The MYFC approached the City of McCall Parks
and Recreation Department, about partnering with the club to help advertise, collect
program registrations and monies. The program was a success for the past two years, and
they would like to partner again for the 2020 fall season. The Parks and Recreation
Department utilizes Team Sideline for their program registration, advertising, and
participant database software. The MYFC has set the program registration fee and will be
responsible for purchasing and maintaining safe equipment for the football program and
provide their own liability insurance. The Parks and Recreation Department will advertise
for the program, collect registration fees and disperse funds to the MYFC. The department
will collect 1.0% of the total registration fees to cover expenses. McCall Recreation Youth
Scholarships will not be used for the football program. Those needing financial assistance
for the program can contact the football club directly to request support. The Memorandum
of Understanding has been reviewed by the City Attorney. Action: Approve the
Memorandum of Understanding with the McCall Youth Football Club and authorize the
Mayor to sign all necessary documentation.
13. AB 20-190 Request to Approve Submittal of an Idaho State Historical Society
Community Enhancement Grant for the McCall Public Library: The McCall Public
Library would like to submit an application for a Community Enhancement Grant (CEG)
from the Idaho State Historical Society (ISHS) for $1175 to support purchase of one (1)
fire-proof and water-resistant four drawer upright file cabinet to safely store irreplaceable
family history records kept by the Library. These records have been digitized, but the
original hard copies are unique and do not exist elsewhere. In the long term, the cabinets
will be transferable to the new Library facility and, in the short term, will conserve these
original documents in archival quality storage units. The total cost the project is $2390.
This includes the purchase and delivery of one (1) fire-proof file cabinet and one box of
archival file folders. This project is a continuation of the effort to preserve these records
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that began with the purchase of two fire-proof cabinets through this same grant program
(ISHS CEG) in 2018. Action: Approve submittal of an Idaho State Historical Society
Community Enhancement Grant for the McCall Public Library and authorize the Mayor
to sign all necessary documents.
14. AB 20-192 Request Approval of the Assumption of Hangar 703 Lease by A3
Unlimited LLC dated September 1, 2002 and Terminate the Interest of Larry
Carpenter at Time of Closing: Larry Carpenter(ASSIGNOR)requests to assign the lease
of Hangar 703 to A3 Unlimited LLC, dated September 1, 2002 (ASSIGNEE). The Hangar
703 lease consists of 7,250 sf of bare ground and 7,000 sf of covered ground. Lease rates
for 2020 are$0.154 and$0.308 per square foot, annually.The FY 2020 total lease payment
of$3,277.07 has been paid through September 30, 2020. The purchaser has been provided
a copy of the current lease, current Airport Rules and Regulations, and Airport Minimum
Standards. The City Attorney has reviewed the assumption. The City Clerk will record the
document and keep a copy for the City's records. We have requested a $200 transaction
fee as part of the process.Action:Approval of the Assumption of Hangar 703 Lease by A3
Unlimited LLC dated September 1, 2002 and Terminate the Interest of Larry Carpenter at
Time of Closing and authorize the Mayor to sign all necessary documents.
15. AB 20-195 Request for Approval of extension of existing contract with Boise Office
Equipment(BOE) to replace copiers in Public Works, City Hall and Library:The
lease associated with the Library copier is expiring as of July 1st, 2020. As part of this
replacement the Public Works and City Hall copiers were also reviewed for replacement.
The vendor offered to buy out our remaining last year of contract without rolling those
costs into the new contract on those copiers and save us —$30\nonth. Additionally,
management of copiers across the City will be easier as this will homogenize all copiers
with a single vendor.Action:Approve the contract extension from Boise Office Equipment
(BOE) to replace copiers in Public Works, City Hall and Library, and authorize the Mayor
to sign all documents.
Council Member Holmes moved to approve the Consent Agenda as with the Department
Reports removed to be considered at the next Council Meeting. Council Member Nielsen
seconded the motion. In a roll call vote Council Member Holmes, Council Member Nielsen,
Mayor Giles, Council Member Maciaszek, and Council Member Sowers all voted aye, and
the motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mayor Giles called for public comment at 5:37 p.m.
Written comments were submitted and included in the online packet and are attached as
Attachment A.
Hearing no comments, Mayor Giles closed the comment period at 5:38 p.m.
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INTERVIEWS AND BOARD APPOINTMENTS
AB 20-185 Housing Advisory Committee Member Interviews and Appointments
Community & Economic Development Director Michelle Groenevelt presented the Housing
Advisory Committee Member interviews and appointments. The McCall City Council formed a
Housing Advisory Committee to review current issues regarding local housing for full-time
residents and possible solutions for increasing the amount of local housing available in McCall.
The open positions were advertised in the Star News. According to the Bylaws, the Committee
shall consist of five (5) voting members appointed by the City Council for three (3) year terms.
Each member may serve no more than 2 consecutive terms. Committee members are not required
to be residents of the City of McCall. Representation from housing and construction related
professionals such real estate, land use law, building and construction, architecture, finance and
other related fields, is preferred.
A list of applicants for the committee and associated background, letters of interest, and resumes
were provided.The Council reviewed the applicant's information. Interested persons also provided
a 3-minute introduction of background, what they can bring to the committee in terms of skills,
commitment and ideas. To stagger the term.dates in the beginning, staff is requesting that Council
appoint five (5) voting members to the Housing Advisory Committee, One Member to a 1-year
term; Two Members to a 2-year term; and Two Members to a 3-year term. All subsequent terms
will be for a full 3 years. One applicant has removed their application from the pool.
Community&Economic Development Director Groenevelt proceeded to introduce each applicant
and each gave a brief explanation of their experiences and connection to the community:
Robert Lyons gave a brief history about himself as a longtime resident and how he felt he could
be an asset on the committee. He has been in the real estate business for many years, owns and
manages four rentals, and is familiar with the home construction process. He is currently on the
Planning and Zoning Commission and is eager to help deal with this issue facing the community.
Jacob Maupin gave a brief background of his experience as superintendent with Maupin Homes,
worked in banking and is familiar with the loan process, and is working on his real estate license.
He has dealt with housing issues in McCall personally and as a business owner for his employees.
He is interested in doing what he can to help solve the housing issue here.
Toni Curtis briefly went through her experience in building and in managing short term rentals
and is working towards her real estate license. She is assisting a long list of people looking for
long term rentals and is eager to find solutions to help her community. She has some connections
with developers that could be useful as well.
Nick Zello shared that his wife and her family grew up here. Four years ago, they left corporate
life and moved back to McCall and would like to give back to the community in the form of
service. They have renovated 9 homes and are familiar with construction. He started out in
mechanical engineering which has taken him around the world, and he shared the experiences he
has seen in other parts of the world for housing challenges and solutions. He has managed product
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lines and companies and is currently offering consulting for construction and space hardware
products. His skill set is identifying a method of what is wanted and a plan on how to achieve it,
and once it is identified what needs to change, the path becomes simpler to see. He has read the
McCall Housing document, and in doing research for the last 12 months, has identified that less
than a dozen families at or below the AMI (for homes $210,000 or less)that were able to purchase
a home. These are the people he wants to help. He spoke about micro housing and its difficulties.
Pat Hill spoke to a couple of the projects he has managed in McCall as a local developer and real
estate agent. He believes a collaborate effort with a team will be what makes this successful. He
shared his experience on other projects around the valley, companies he has connected with to
create micro housing, and is passionate about finding solutions.
Diane Kushlan gave a brief overview of her qualification in community planning,working for the
Urban Land Institute Chapter in Idaho, and shared her participation with the City of Boise to create
housing in the downtown area.
Phil Kushlan shared he has spent most of his life visiting the McCall area and recently purchased
a home here. His professional experience includes consulting with the McCall Urban Renewal
District,local government management as a city manager for 26 years in Oregon and Washington,
and led the Boise Redevelopment Agency for 12 years. He is very familiar with the effects of
public policy on housing.
Joey Pietri shared he has had some unique living situations and feels like he can bring a different
perspective as someone who is living with the crisis. He is passionate about finding solutions and
would like to be a part of the process.
Maggie Weissman shared her work history and has been a real estate agent for the last 15 years.
She currently lives between Seattle and McCall and spoke about knowing people living in their
vehicles. She understands the importance and is passionate about affordable housing for the
workers of McCall.
The Council deliberated and gave their top picks. Council Member Holmes asked if the presence
of Mr. Lyons on the committee would cause any kind of conflict as he is also on the Planning and
Zoning Commission, and Mr. Lyons responded that staff had contacted the city attorney for
clarification and there was not a conflict. Mr. Lyons also thought his connection with planning and
zoning would be a benefit. Council Member Nielsen expressed his desire that many different
options are considered when tackling the housing problem. The Council narrowed down the list to
their top five choices and then selected which person for which term. The final list was Pat Hill
and Robert Lyons to a 3-year term,Nick Zello and Diane Kushlan to a 2-year term,and Toni Curtis
to a 1-year term.
Council Member Nielsen moved to appoint Toni Curtis to a 1-year term; appoint Nick Zello
and Diane Kushlan to a 2-year term; and appoint Pat Hill and Robert Lyons to a 3-year term
on the Housing Advisory Committee. Council Member Maciaszek seconded the motion. In a
roll call vote Council Member Nielsen, Council Member Maciaszek, Mayor Giles, Council
Member Holmes, and Council Member Sowers all voted aye, and the motion carried.
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Staff welcomed those who were not appointed or anyone who still would like to participate to
attend the committee meetings as those are open to the public.
PRESENTATION
AB 20-198 Trident Holdings - Proposal to the Idaho State Land Board about a Potential
Swap of Private Timberland for Idaho Department of Lands Endowment Lands
in McCall Presentation Only
City Manager Anette Spickard introduced Alec Williams of Trident Holdings who is to present
information regarding a proposal pending at the Idaho State Land Board for a swap of private
timberland for Idaho Department of Lands endowment lands in the McCall Area. The City Council
has no approval or denial authority in this matter, that rests with the State Land Board. However,
the proposal is of City interest due to the location of these lands within McCall and the McCall
Impact Area.
Mr. Williams prefaced that this process with the State takes months, if not years. His hope is to
take the decision-making process from the State to the local level so there is more control over
how the lands are used. He proceeded to give a brief history about himself, his family, and
connection with McCall. He felt there was a pending problem when it comes to State endowment
lands and his involvement in this project is an effort to find a solution to those problems. He
explained what State endowment lands are and how they are managed. It begins with the Federal
government gifting the State land,not for ownership,but to act as a trustee over a trust that includes
these lands meant to be managed mainly for schools, colleges, and on a small scale, public
hospitals beneficiaries for long-term economic return to support those entities. Even though these
acres are endowment lands and not public State land, the land has been kept open for public use.
Mr.Williams would like to address housing needs for locals. He wants to see the local governments
more involved in how these lands are used. One solution was to provide smaller more affordable
lots for homes while still providing trails and access. The company's quest is to provide a growth
plan that will last several decades and impower local groups on meeting the needs of the
community. He feels the current housing environment does not encourage local high school
graduates an opportunity to stay and raise a family in McCall and he is seeking to change that.
Mr.Williams stated he understands the community's fear of a developer taking over large amounts
of acreage sealing even more land away for private use only and wanted it to be known he has that
same fear and it is the driving force behind his involvement to change the process so these lands
will forever be open to the public. He believes this in an opportunity to protect the lands around
McCall. He is asking for community input and a community board is being formed to address
those concerns and ideas. He discussed the planning process and goal of many public meetings
with the long-term residents to gather information.
The Council asked several questions of Mr. Williams addressing many of the issues expressed by
the community in the attached comments. Mr. Williams clarified the company credentials, his
residence as a long-standing Idaho resident who works for a company based in New York, and his
experience in leading planning teams, however, expressed the goal is to bring many skillsets to
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address the different planning and conservation issues. He explained the company's mission
statement regarding investors including local residents and the reason behind why company has
targeted certain land parcels. He opined how the endowment land around Payette Lake was
identified as an area the State does not have many great options to choose from other than selling
and stated there are not many areas around the country to model this approach after as the situation
is unique. He explained how the deficit amount was calculated by Smart Foresters experts and how
the appraisals were ballpark figures. Council asked for more information at a future meeting on
the fiscal numbers. Mr. Williams answered questions about the funding for schools, Idaho
Department of Lands mandates,the inability of purchasing Wilkes land, acre-sponsoring, investor
return, key members and staff, lobbying, and community betterment, and the Deinhard land.
BUSINESS AGENDA
AB 20-197 Request Approval of Resolution 20-13 Adopting McCall's Framework for
Climate Action Planning and Draft 2018 Greenhouse Gas Emission Inventories as
a Planning Document
Community&Economic Development(CED)Director Michelle Groenevelt presented Resolution
20-13 adopting McCall's Framework for Climate Action Planning and Draft 2018 Greenhouse
Gas Emission Inventories as a planning document. On January 9, 2020, the City received a grant
from Blue Cross of Idaho Foundation for Health in response to the Mayor having participated in
their leadership program. The purpose of grant funding from the Foundation is for the support of
two MOSS internships with the City of McCall. The MOSS interns have been working with CED
Director and one project is the Greenhouse Gas Inventory/Climate Action Plan research. On June
18, intern Anna Lindquist introduced herself to the City Council and gave an introduction of her
project and research.
Ms. Lindquist presented her final reports. She went through the results of the Draft 2018
Greenhouse Gas Emission Inventories covering the government and private sector's biggest
emissions and how those numbers were collected. She explained the Climate Action Planning
document gives a review of how to implement plans to address the greenhouse gas emission issues
and she covered each milestone called out in the document.
Council expressed their appreciation of Ms. Lindquist's work. Council Member Holmes would
like to see a checklist on which items that would make a good starting point. Ms. Lindquist
suggested to identify the sector with the biggest issues and create a list from narrowing the steps
down. Council Member Nielsen would like to keep moving forward on this topic. Staff will bring
back more information to a future Council meeting.
Council Member Holmes moved to approve Resolution 20-13 adopting the final report
McCall's Framework for Climate Action Planning and Draft 2018 Greenhouse Gas Emission
Inventories as planning documents. Council Member Nielsen seconded the motion. In a roll
call vote Council Member Holmes, Council Member Nielsen,Mayor Giles, Council Member
Maciaszek, and Council Member Sowers all voted aye, and the motion carried.
AB 20-196 Request Approval of Resolution 20-14 Adopting McCall In Delicious Motion:
Advancing the City's Urban Agricultural Goals as a Planning Document
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Community&Economic Development Director Michelle Groenevelt presented Resolution 20-14
adopting McCall In Delicious Motion: Advancing the City's Urban Agricultural Goals as a
Planning Document. On January 9, 2020, the City received a Grant from Blue Cross of Idaho
Foundation for Health in response to the Mayor having participated in their leadership program.
The purpose of Grant funding from the Foundation is for the support of two MOSS internships
with the City of McCall. The MOSS interns have been working with CED Director. Another of
these projects is the Analysis of Urban Agriculture and Community Food Systems in McCall. On
June 18, intern Casey O'Leary introduced herself to the City Council and gave an introduction of
her project and research.
Ms. O'Leary presented her final report. She gave a brief review of the projects she identified from
the McCall Area Comprehensive Plan and how she gathered her data. She focused on five ideas:
Community gardens on City-owned land; City and County landowners and non-profits joining
forces to conserve agricultural land in perpetuity; Collaborative hydroponic greenhouses
reclaiming the old city dump area; Community compost turning waste into a rich soil amendment
at River Front Park; Resilience coordinator to move important projects forward. She shared great
partnership possibilities, ideas, and grant opportunities for all five focus areas.
Council expressed their appreciation of Ms. O'Leary's work and was supportive of moving
forward with those ideas. Council Member Maciaszek would like to see someone appointed as a
coordinator.
Council Member Holmes moved to approve Resolution 20-14 adopting the final report
McCall In Delicious Motion: Advancing the City's Urban Agricultural Goals as a planning
document.Council Member Nielsen seconded the motion.In a roll call vote Council Member
Holmes, Council Member Nielsen, Mayor Giles, Council Member Maciaszek, and Council
Member Sowers all voted aye, and the motion carried.
AB 20-194 Request Payment Approval for the Local Housing Incentive Program and Deed
Restriction for 117 Broken Pine, and Provide Direction to Staff
Community & Economic Development Director Michelle Groenevelt presented the payment
approval for the Local Housing Incentive Program and Deed Restriction for 117 Broken Pine. The
West Central Mountain Housing Trust has voluntarily agreed to place the deed restriction on the
townhome unit located at 117 Broken Pine in the new Broken Ridge subdivision located off
Boydstun Lane. Per Resolution 19-02 Local Housing Incentive Policy, the unit is eligible to
receive the $10,000 incentive for placing the deed restriction on the unit. The funding for this
reimbursement program will come from the Local Option Tax grant for Local Housing.This is the
first local housing deed restriction and reimbursement that will be implemented under the
Council's incentive policy.
The Local Housing Deed Restriction template was developed by staff and White Peterson and will
serve as the template until the Local Housing Incentive Program (Resolution 19-02) is revised.
Council Member Nielsen would like to have seen more information about the unit and how the
funds will be used. City Attorney Bill Nichols explained this was an ongoing process that would
be refined as more of these projects come through.The Council briefly discussed. Council Member
Nielsen is somewhat hesitant to approve items such as this without more info so would like future
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items to be clearer. Staff explained the purpose of the template and to expect future revisions. This
the first chance to use the template so there are some pieces in need of tweaking.
Council Member Nielsen moved to approve payment of$10,000 per Resolution 19-02 for 117
Broken Pine. Council Member Holmes seconded the motion. In a roll call vote Council
Member Nielsen, Council Member Holmes, Mayor Giles, Council Member Maciaszek, and
Council Member Sowers all voted aye, and the motion carried.
Council Member Holmes moved to approve Local Housing Deed Restriction template for
117 Broken Pine. Council Member Nielsen seconded the motion. In a roll call vote Council
Member Holmes, Council Member Nielsen, Mayor Giles, Council Member Maciaszek, and
Council Member Sowers all voted aye, and the motion carried.
Council convened for a 5-minute break at 9:1Op.m.
AB 20-199 COVID-19 Relief Discussion for Utility Bills and Provide Direction to Staff
City Treasurer Linda Stokes presented the COVID-19 Relief for Utility Bills. The Council
approved to provide the following relief measures during the COVID-19 pandemic to the City
utility rate payers for a period 90 days with the intent to re-evaluate the continued need for relief
at the end of 90 days (April 9 to July 9, 2020).
• Suspend billing of, or waive penalty charges, on late payments
• Suspend billing of, or waive service charges, on delinquent accounts
• Suspend shutting off delinquent accounts for non-payment
• Encourage Utility rate payers to pay what they can to keep account balances from becoming
overwhelming
• Enter into payment arrangements for those customers that request assistance with their bills
The following table demonstrates the results of the relief measures implemented on April 9, 2020
Late Penalty Shutoff Payment
Month Service Charges Charges Lists Arrangement
# of # of # of
Accts $ Amt Accts $Amt Accts # of Accts
April 34 $24.59 123 $528.45 25 0
May 57 $46.11 134 $641.82 53 0
June 63 $46.65 147 $762.14 57 0
July 78 $61.35 No Report yet 69 0
City Treasurer Stokes shared some new data she did not have at the time the packet was put
together. The aging report for accounts over 90 days at the end of March was $256.32 and by the
end of June it was $4343.00, a significant increase. She has not had any customers approach her
or her staff about a payment plan. She is concerned about the delinquent customers and is planning
on contacting them in some form, such as a letter, to let people know their balance and encourage
them to contact her.
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The Council shared their view, and everyone agreed to continue with the relief and in contacting
the delinquent accounts. There was discussion about possible debt forgiveness. City Treasurer
Stokes pointed out sometimes bond covenants have language about it not being permissible to give
out free services and she wants to read the Department of Environmental Quality bond to make
sure there would not be a violation if the Council wants to write off debts. The Council directed
staff to be prepared with information about debt forgiveness when the next 90 days has expired.
Council Member Holmes moved to continue to provide relief to the utility rate payor for 90
days to be reevaluated at the end of 90 days. Council Member Nielsen seconded the motion.
In a roll call vote Council Member Holmes, Council Member Nielsen, Mayor Giles, Council
Member Maciaszek, and Council Member Sowers all voted aye, and the motion carried.
AB 20-193 Request for Direction Regarding Leveraging the CARES Relief Funding (CRF)
to Cover Qualified Public Safety Payroll Costs
City Treasurer Linda Stokes presented the CARES Relief Funding(CRF)to cover qualified public
safety payroll costs. According to the Governor's office, the goals of the Leveraging CARES
Relief Funding to Cover Qualified Payroll Costs program is to support police, fire, and EMS
employees and to provide up to $200 million in property tax relief to Idahoans. To participate,
local governments must pass along the payroll cost savings to their citizens in the form of property
tax relief. Eligible payroll costs are salary and benefits not including overtime from March 1,2020
through December 30,2020. Per this program,the City of McCall police officer salary costs would
fall under the classification of"Public Safety Employees"in that the City can attest they were and
have been substantially dedicated to COVID.
Program Timeline:
• July 17, 2020— Submit notice of intent to participate by 5:00 p.m. with March 1, 2020 to
December 30, 2020 estimated payroll costs (non-binding)
• July 24, 2020—local governments will be provided their allocation estimate
• July 1 to September 9, 2020—work with staff to determine if opting in makes sense for the
City of McCall
• September 10, 2020—Certify tax levy to county with no increases except new construction
• September 18, 2020 — submit documentation to State Controller on actual public safety
payroll expenses (March 1 through August 30) and estimated payroll expenses through
December 30, 2020
• October 1, 2020 — Division of Financial Management shall notify County.Treasurers of
amount of property tax relief to county residents
• December 15, 2020 — the State Controller sends a check to the City for covered payroll
costs not to exceed 103% of the tax relief
Property taxpayers will see the property tax savings in the form of a credit on their property tax
notice. City Treasurer Stokes went over the financial data and deadlines. City Manager Anette
Spickard shared the direction received from the Governor's office was to put in the whole budget,
but she explained staff has looked at the Federal guidelines and believes it would be good practice
to break out the salaries and costs related to the pandemic. It is important that whatever is done
will allow the City to pass the fiscal audit. There are too many questions at this time to be able to
calculate what is appropriate to submit and the external City auditor advised to use caution if the
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City chooses to participate, as at this time, staff has not received definitive guidance or clarity on
how the program is supposed to work. It makes the most sense to submit the letter of intent to get
on the list by the deadline, but the City will have the ability to withdraw if needed. She suggested
submitting a letter of intent with both amounts and express concern about the lack of information
yet. There was Council consensus in support of the letter of intent.
AB 20-187 Policy Briefmg: Police Department Use of Force Policy and Officer Training
Discussion Only
Police Chief Justin Williams presented the policy briefing of Department Use of Force policy and
officer training. At the request of Mayor Giles, he was asked to provided information regarding
policing philosphy, use of force and training for the McCall Police Department. He stated this
policy is continually revolving and training is ongoing throughout a police officer's career.
The McCall Police department obtains their policy from Lexipol,who is the leading national police
policy maker in the United States and is used by 3000 agencies across 35 states. The manuals are
comprised of Federal laws and mandates, State laws and mandates, best practice and industry
standards, descretionary policies, and department (city) created policies. They also provide daily
training bulletins online that deal with unique high litigation and stress situations, which the
officers are required to complete each day.
The policy manual addresses Use of Force guidelines (page 300 of said document) that explains
how to apply force, when to use it, and the level of force necessary to use in certain instances.
Chief Williams explained the manual is only guidelines as there is no way to create policy that
will address every dynamic. He gave the definitions for"force" and "deadly force" and explained
determination is by a paradim called Use of Force Continum that dictiates which level of force for
which kinds of resistance. He explained the different levels of force, giving examples of each. He
then explained the different levels of resistance and gave examples of each. It is the officer's
responsibility to know which level of force is needed to each level of resistance. Most of the time
the level of resistance creates a level of force reaction and the policy is to always be one level of
force above the level of resistance. Deadly force comes into play when the level of resistance
reaches top levels and leaves the officer no choice but to respond with the top level of force. What
needs to be understood is the level of force is used according to which level of resistance is being
used by the citizen and not necessarily applied in a 1-2-3 order and officers sometimes only has a
split second to respond. McCall Police departmental philosophies and standards is Use of Force
policies must be implemented, trained, and retrained to reduce risk to officers and to the City.
Courts view the reasonableness of the application of force from the perspective of a reasonable
officer,not a reasonable person,with the same training and background that would have responsed
in a similar fashion in the same circumstance without the benefit of hindsight. All Use of Force
policies are based on the courtcase Grahm versus Conner which addresses the fourth and eigth
amendments. The department has a certified instructor to train staff in defensive tactics and arrest
techiques, two certified instructors for teaching taser techniques, and three firearms instructors.
Chief Williams explained what is required to received and retain the instructor certifications. The
two most litigated issues in law enforcement is failure to train employees and negligent retainment
of an employee. This is the reason behind the department's request to increase the training budget.
He stated more and more the burden is placed upon officers and cities to respond to trends and
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political whims rather than on the accountability of the violators and he shared officers are
continually pressured to use alternates for the use of force today in comparison to 20 years ago.
All of the new technology requires additional training and recertification. He explained the
procedures taken if there is a use of force incident.
Chief Williams spoke about the higher resistance and violence officers and police departments are
faced with on a national scale has become far more prevelent than it was in the past. A violent act
used to be fairly rare and would make the news, but today an officer can get executed in a traffic
stop and the media barely covers it. The burden of expectation is left on the officer and department
yet people do not educate themeselves about the policies. He summarized the departments Use of
Force policy is the necessity of training to protect the officers and the City.
Council expressed their appreciation of the information presented and thanked Chief Williams for
his and his department's level of professionalism and the positive changes that has transpired in
the department due to his leadership. Council Member Nielsen asked about additional tools and
training to help deal with situations. Chief Williams shared there are several other courses his staff
take which include deescalation techniques,verbal judo,understanding mental illness,intervention
in domestic violance, and victims assistance as well as working with Health & Welfare and drug
counceling. He would love to provide a citizens use of force training to help educate the public
and would like to see more social service trainings. There was a brief discussion about domestic
violence. Chief Williams stated he felt priveleged to live in this town and thanked the Council as
well as the citizens for their support of their police department.
COVID-19 Update
Chief Williams presented the COVID-19 update. He briefed the Council on the latest information.
Since his last briefing on June 18t11, statewide confirmed cases have risen to 9428 from 3743. Ada
County has regressed back to stage three, and the Central District Health is going to require a
county wide mask mandate. Valley County has remained in Stage Four,but he anticipates a spike
in cases. McCall has 23 confirmed cases of local citizens and an increase of community spread in
the 18-24 age demographic. Over the July 4th holiday, some businesses closed to reduce spread
including 3 of the 4 bars. He reported that for the first time since he has started working for the
City, there was not one fight to contend with on the night of July 41h. Most compliance issues took
place outside with social distancing, so officers focused on education.
City Manager Anette Spickard gave an update from the Governor's office regarding the State and
stated hospitalization statewide is increasing. St. Luke's currently has system wide 66 people
admitted with Covid-19 and 16 of those patients are in the ICU. Anyone admitted to St. Luke's
McCall will be transported to Boise for care as this hospital here does not have the facility to
provide long term care. She shared Central District Health board meeting is considering a mask
requirement for Valley County. In speaking with Brian Harris with the Payette National Forest,
she learned the Federal government has reopening guidelines as well and according to those
guidelines, the State of Idaho has not passed out of stage one which is why the Forest Service
offices are still closed and people are working remotely. Mr. Harris offered to let the City borrow
a couple road reader boards to help get the mask mandate message across. A testing event with
Crush the Curve is being planned to help employers and citizens have easier access to testing. The
school district is working on the opening plan to present to the school board. If the community
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spread cannot be brought under control, it could jeopardize the children's ability to be educated
properly so maybe if the mask mandate was put in that light, it would help people understand the
importance. She reported that even though there was negative feedback about the mask mandate,
most comments were positive and supportive.
Upcoming Meetings Schedule Discussion
Council discussed upcoming meetings.
ADJOURNMENT'
Without further business,Mayor Giles adjourned the meeting at 10:42 p.m.
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Comments as of 3:00 pm on 07/09/2020
1 Julie 2071 I am extremely concerned about the Trident Holdings (business formed in
Manning Lakeview Av, January 2020) proposal to take 28,000 acres of State endowment lands in the
McCall, ID McCall area in exchange for land in Northern Idaho. I cannot find additional
83638 information about this proposal but on its face it does not sound good for McCall,
its residents, the public or public lands. It sounds like an attempt by Trident
Holdings and its owner to take advantage for their own benefit to the detriment
of just about everyone else.
2 Julie Welty 1639 The state land surrounding Payette Lake is beautiful with lots of wildlife and trails
Lakeridge and the north part of the lake for people to enjoy. If Trident owns the land, we
Drive; have no guarantees that they won’t develop the land for residences or other
McCall, ID buildings or close the land to the public. It is vital the we keep this land open to
83638 the public and controlled by the state and the people,not a private agency. Right
now tourists come to McCall to enjoy the open space, recreational activities and
nature that we offer. Therefore we should keep that available to continue to be
an attraction for tourists that will come and contribute to our economy and local
businesses. If anything, perhaps we should consider making areas in the state
lands a state park and require a pass with a small fee to enter or park in the area
like Ponderosa Park. This would generate the needed income and save the land.
Thanks for your time.
Julie Welty
3 Katie JrktwelbornAs a concerned citizen and local business owner, I hope all officials within the
Welborn @aol.com local and state government put an end to the discussions on the endowment
land swap with IDL and Trident Holdings. For the future of our children and this
place we call home, we need to be standing up for our most valued public lands.
This proposal is only a major list of problems to come and our community cannot
sustain the influx of this type of development. If it's revenue the state is worried
about, then let's think outside the box for a better solution, don't give up that
easy and sell us out to private investors looking to make money at the expense
of the locals. Thank you.
4 Marjorie 1063 North Regarding the proposed land swap with Trident Properties, I am opposed to this
Chase View Dr. land swap and do not believe it is appropriate or beneficial to the residents of
McCall, McCall or the State in general. While the commissioned study paid for by Trident
Idaho comes out in their favor, I think before the state agrees to anything a neural
study should be conducted taking into consideration all the value these lands
provide to Idaho citizens.
5 Sharon Lynn 1607 Davis No. Do not make this deal. This is not in the best interest of the Valley County
Johnson Ave. W 143 residents, City of McCall residents and business owners. Say NO to this Trident
Group and protect the home owners, residents, business owner and homesteads
who have real property interests in OUR communities. No. No. No.
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6 Danielle 705 Reedy Please don’t make our public lands private we have already lost so much that we
Gray lane have enjoyed for years in this town please please don’t take away the places we
love the lazy river the cliffs the thinking rock, yahoo corrals. Living here in this
beautiful town for 42 years and feeling blessed beyond measure that we get to
live here Please do not take away our chance to continue to enjoy the beauty
surrounding the lake. Please do not let them make McCall a Lake Tahoe and tax
us out of here.
7 Joshua 716 Chad I do not support ANY amount of trade for State Endowment lands around Payette
WardenDrive, Lake to Trident Holdings. The loss of access, recreation opportunities, and
McCall, ID resource conservation is unacceptable to me as resident and tax payer.
83638 Privatization of public lands should never be supported. Endowment lands
belong to the State of Idaho and it’s residents for their enjoyment, the benefit is
not realized in the form of liquid revenue. Privatization must not happen, not
even with promises of conservation and recreation easement- private land is
private. I encourage the City of McCall and Valley County to oppose any form of
trade for public lands into private ownership.
8 Kevin 368 TJ Loop, NO WAY THIS SHOULD TAKE PLACE!!
Zubieta McCall ID
83638
9 Laurie Pillers PO Box 337, I believe it is critical that the lands surrounding Payette Lake and McCall, that are
New currently under public ownership, that are proposed for this land swap, stay
Meadows, ID under public ownership. If they are traded, in order to preserve the current
83654 public access that is important, they should be put into a conservation easement
administered by the Payette Land Trust. We must maintain public/state control
of lands abutting Payette Lake so that all citizens can enjoy unobstructed access
to the lake.
10ReNae 705 Broken I am against this land swap. I believe it will destroy our pristine lake setting
Bradfield Rein Rd, through development. This is a treasure for Idaho. Please do not destroy it in
McCall, ID order to enrich private individuals. This is our legacy for future generations. Do
83638 not turn the area into a high priced playground for just a few wealthy people.
11Samantha 13750 No land exchange, leave it as is.
Sais Trammel Rd.
McCall ID
83638
12Abby 799 knights This is unexplainable! This land should remain accessible to the public. DO NOT
Standar rd McCall, ID SELL OUR LAND to be privatized!
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13Sheri 13970 Easy As a long time, full-time citizen of McCall (39 years), I am totally against what
Kososik Street, Trident companies want to do. He states that he has our best interests at heart.
McCall, ID
If indeed this is the case he would leave us alone. What good is land in Northern
83638 Idaho? The land he wants to buy and end up selling to the highest bidder needs
to be left alone in its original beauty for all to enjoy. Our town does not need
another Manchester or the brothers from Texas thinking they can come in and
buy up our land and make it in to what they want. We already have what we
want....pristine rivers, sparkling lakes, trails, beaches and beauty. What he will
do to this will be devastating to the original beauty that is already here. He
needs to spend his time and money somewhere else. Thank you
14Pat Ager308 Gabi Please please pleasevote no on this proposed land swap! There are so few
Lane, pristine treasures like Payette lake accessible to average working families. This
McCall, ID swap would be taken over by developers to build high end luxury mansions and
83638 restrict access to the public. In addition the load and stress on our fragile
infrastructure And environment would be so damaging. We don’t want to be Sun
Valley.
15Jacqueline 300 Mather I do NOT support this land swap!!!
mitchell Rd, McCall,
ID 83638
16John H 300 Mather I do NOT support this land swap!!!
Mitchell III Rd., McCall,
ID 83638
17Linda Hieter 560 Old We lived on Lick Creek road for 24 years. Do not give up those lands. It has to
Pollock rd stop somewhere!!!
Riggins
18Cori Rice 76 Rogers I STRONGLY OPPOSE the land transfer proposal by Trident Holdings LLC to
Lane McCall privatize land around/near Payette Lake.
Idaho 83638
19Jayme 13104 Hill this land swap would irreversibly change the pristine landscape surrounding
Gamble House Loop Payette Lake. Please don't make a mistake that will effect generations to come.
There MUST be another way.
20Stefanie 411 We do not want to see this land swap go thru! This would not benefit anyone
Woods Deinhard Ln but the developer! Please rethink this planned project!
Suite-F
McCall
21Jane Dykas 441 Allen Land in and around McCall is not a drain on state resources. The McCall region is
Ave., McCall, a treasure that should be protected and preserved for all generations to come.
ID Humans need nature for survival; selling and developing these lands will destroy
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the forests on which we depend. Thank you for not selling our lands to the
highest bidder.
22Philip reid 141 norheim I would prefer our State lands remain in the control of the state for public use
ln McCall and not sold or traded to private parties. Thank you
Idaho 83638
23Alice Brown 624 To Whom it May Concern,
Woodlands
Let’s make sure we do everything we can to keep public lands public. The people
Drive
of our community use this land on a daily basis throughout the year to connect
McCall,
with nature. We care for the land, and enjoy the benefits of living in our
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community because of our access to public lands and our connection with our
local environment. Let’s fight to keep this land as it is.
Thank you,
Alice Brown
24NAYOMEE 13 E Pursuant to the Idaho Constitution, the private land traded for State land must
Robertson Murtaugh be on an equal value basis. There is no way that rural timber land in northern
Lake St Idaho is of an equal market value to prime real estate located in and around
McCall. The simple fact that a development company is willing to make this trade
is evidence that the land around McCall is far more valuable than their holdings
in North Idaho.
25Michael 11603 W El I'm not a resident but I consider McCall to be my second home . I do not think
Zimmer Centro this is a good call to sell a large portion of land. These areas have already shrank
enough . My Morell area keeps getting smaller and smaller due to private
property and by the time my kids are able to enjoy , it will be gone .
26Jenna Ball ballj@frontiGrowing up in McCall I've enjoyed hiking, biking, camping, fishing you name it.
er.com Honestly, the outdoor and recreation experiences have shaped me into who I am
today. I LOVE the outdoors, I love McCall, and would hate to see anyone from
any background be unable to recreate on these lands in the future solely on the
reason of not enough revenue. That's one of the reasons McCall is such a
wonderful and treasured town, because there is so much untouched and
beautiful backcountry. If revenue is the issue, revenue can be found in other
ways. These lands could still be public and by charging a yearly fee to access
these beautiful lands, that could go towards the maintenance of them. The lands
surrounding McCall is a HUGE reason we have so much tourism and revenue.
Taking those away or privatizing them would hurt McCall or make those lands
only accessable by the very very wealthy and not be inclusive to all. Please do
not make the deal!
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27Ciera Ney 314 w Court I do not agree with making the land private! I grew up in McCall having
St Weiser Id adventures all the time in these areas and still go when I need an escape. I have
83672 a family now that I want to take to these places and share memories with them
as they grow. You are taking that away not just from me but thousands of other
people as well. McCall is unique for the fact it still has places to escape. Why
would you want to give that up? Why would you want to be like everyone else?!
Its not right. It's greedy to do this just so you can make a pretty penny. Greed is
to big a problem in this world already. I never thought I'd have to fight to keep a
place like this out of the hands of money.
28Ardis Hewitt 2021 N As a former resident of McCall it would be in the community interest that any
Blaine Way land swap would be for the benefit of enlarging Ponderosa Park for the benefit
Boise ID of all in the community and those who visit and enjoy that beloved park. Not
83702 thrilled that it may benefit a developer whose interest is profit over community
and responsible land use.
29Britani 2948 Syringa Giving land to a development company will not only take away from the beauty
Phelps Dr. New that McCall is known for, but it will also take away from the locals that are doing
Meadows ID, their best to live affordably. Building more houses/whatever it is this
83654 development company wants to create, will increase the cost of living making
the current housing situation even more dire than the current problem McCall
has. Keep the land and stay true to the values that McCall is known for. Listen to
the people who live there. This would be a mistake beyond belief.
30Julie ConradP.O. Box I have been enjoying McCall with my family since the early '60's. What makes
2755, McCall extra special, is the land that is available for all to enjoy. I would hope
McCall, ID the County/City Officials do NOT consider this proposal from an outside, private
83638 interest. I am adamantly opposed to this proposal, and that the idea that selling
off our precious public lands around Payette Lake to a private party is even being
considered. Please Vote/Say "NO".
31Charity 904 I cannot imagine loosing28,000 acres of public land where we mountain bike,
Andersen Wildhorse take family walks, enjoy nature, bird watch, and do all the outdoor things
Drive, residents of McCall do. Currently our town struggles with the overload of visitors,
McCall, I could not imagine having more bodies here limiting access to this beautiful land
83638 and lake. This is the main reason I moved to McCall, for its small town feel, the
tight knit community, the 1 lane highways and roads with speeds below 25 mph
we’re my family can walk and ride safely . Please, I am begging you. If it’s money
the city and state desire, let’s think of other options to make improvements
without letting these big corporations take over and tease us with money and
false hopes. As a full time resident, I am willing to help in the community to avoid
a sale (or land swap) of this nature. How would having land in north Idaho help
us McCall residents? It won’t. I am here for life and willing to do what it takes to
keep our precious little village just that, little. Please reach out to me at 714-626-
6659 or charity@cfandersen.com. Don’t do it!
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32Gregory 1614 The areas within this parcel include all ofthe highlights and best parts of the
Arnold Dearborn McCall area which are available to public access and use. It is unthinkable that
St., Caldwell, they might be lost to development, more of which McCall simply DOES NOT
ID 83605 NEED. A great number of Idaho Natives have fond memories of times spent with
friends and family in these areas, for generations now. The transfer to new
outside interests would without question result in a bar to public access and use.
McCalls local economy, which relies heavily on tourism would suffer markedly as
a result of a sale such as is proposed. Please explore alternatives, other than
barring the use of the many in deference to limiting it to the monied few.
33Cahill Jones 933 Flynn, I am against the proposed land swap. The property around McCall currently
McCall, Id. owned by the land board should remain state owned.
83703
34Carolyn 1019 VIolet NO swap of private timberland for IDL endowment lands in McCall with Trident
(Lynn) Way, McCall Holdings!!!!!!!!!!! NO!
Wood ID. 83638
35Erin erin.vonderhPlease don't trade our public lands outside of McCall and cede ownership to a
vonderheit eit@gmail.cprivate stakeholder. There are many ways for the state to make up this money.
om We have seen what private landowners can do to impact access to public lands
(the Wilkes), I implore you not allow the same to the lands past Little Payette
Lake.
36Cora 340 Moon AGAINST THE PROPOSAL TO THE STATE LAND BOARD ABOUT A POTENTIAL SWAP
Coleman Drive McCall OF PRIVATE of TIMBERLAND FOR IDL ENDOWMENT LANDS IN MCCALL.
ID 83638
37Jenn Stone P.O. Box This is a terrible idea. We cannot give the land and lake to more people of
4096 McCall, privilege. This will change the town, its dynamics and accessibility of hard
ID 83638 working people to enjoy this place that we work so hard for. We cannot sell out.
38Kelly Phillips1410 Warren Please look at other mountain communities that chose growth over maintaining
Wagon Rd the land. These are no longer family towns. They do not allow the middle class
McCall, ID to enjoy themselves. The towns eventually drive out the poor and as they say in
83638 Jackson Hole, WY the billionaires are buying out the millionaires. Giving this land
away WILL destroy the atmosphere that everyone loves about McCall. This town
is sought out because it is special. Giving more land up with destroy what makes
this place special and turn it into areas like Vail, Aspen, Jackson Hole, Lake Tahoe,
etc. Do not let McCall become another commercialized/tourist town that the
lower and middle class can’t enjoy.
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39Don 958 Conifer To the state Land Board,
Fitzwater Lane Mccall
I was born and raised in Mccall and seen first hand the economic changes and
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challenges to the area for the last 40 years.
The lifeblood of the community and tourism is because of “the big hairy piece of
land” i.e. free space, fishing, hunting, recreation, tranquility and everything the
area draws people from around the world. That land is directly related to the
economic fuel of Idaho state tax dollars, much greater than a logging and timber
sales. Just audit the Mccall Albertsons for a sample of the revenue- it’s the
highest performing store in the United States.
We’ve recently lost local land like Red Ridge and Patty Flat to oil money. If you
don’t recognize you’re being played, wake up you are. This is not “costing” you
money to mange it. This money is to take advantage of you. If the land in CD’A
was so valuable then why I the world would the being trying to trade it?
Proud to call Idaho my home. If you’re really considering this ”Land Swap” then
please resign immediately so some who cares and is proud to call Idaho home
and its land to fill your position.
Sincerely,
Don Fitzwater
40Nathan 625 I vehemently oppose the proposed land swap by the State. That land is all of ours
Wolfe Woodlands to recreate in or just simply enjoy the beauty of. Any action of this sort needs to
Dr. McCall, be presented to the people for a vote. This is profit driven and not for the
ID residents of this community, it is profit driven and completely outrageous.
41Jason Butts 947 S It’s very unsettling to think that the State of Idaho and the city of McCall would
Shoshone even consider such a defacing proposition. Please look passed the dollar signs
Boise, Idaho
and remember that we are the State of Idaho, we are the community of McCall,
83705 Idaho. State land and BLM lands are our largest mystique, this is who we are!
Privatizing state owned lands is at a terrible cost to a community that has truly
been built on access to recreation. Please start learning from our past mistakes,
Wilkes Bros. Purchases should be a very resent and good reminder of what
happens when access becomes limited. We have to prevent our access to
recreation at an absolute minimum! Let alone even consider an affordable
housing project on such valuable lands.
42Amanda PO Box 2364 I am NOT in favor of the State’s proposed land swap with Trident Land Holdings.
Bonilla McCall, ID The land swap will destroy our area and further privatize Valley County and lock
83638 out our public from enjoying what makes McCall special.
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43Katey Basye13833 Wild The revenue brought to our community through the use of these public lands is
Goose Ct. far greater than the $250,000 that IDL claims we spend yearly on the property.
McCall, ID This clearly seems like a backdoor deal that is being rushed through during a time
83638 when community members and the state should be concerned about public
health and safety. The timing of this deal seems convenient for all the parties
involved. McCall is legendary for its public lands and access it provides for
families to build memories. We have already lost hundreds of thousands of acres
of our local public lands, and if we sell/trade off more we will be destroying our
primary industry. The members of this community do not want this deal to go
through and feel that we contribute our fair share of taxes through the
recreation in our area. It is time Idaho acknowledges Valley County's efforts and
quits soliciting the public lands in our area.
44Larry Durk 11012 West Growing up in McCall was an amazing experience. Turning treasured public land
Goldenspireinto private property would only exacerbate the problem of commercialism in
dr. Boise I’d, central Idaho McCall in particular. I strongly disagree with the proposal.
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45Teresa 35 Heinrich Please do not allow this land swap.
Leavitt Lane
46Caroline 13813 Hwy 55, It would be an absolute tragedy to give up these beautiful lands for mere wealth.
Batha McCall, ID
How many more second or third homes does this area need? How many more
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displays of money does this landscape have to bear? How many locals will lose
their most treasured spots?
The land in question is one of the biggest gems for locals in the area. It's easy to
get to after a long shift downtown (serving summer visitors) to go climb Thinking
Spot. It's a beautiful, safe area for young families and their kiddos to explore. And
most of all, it's one of the only pieces of McCall left that the locals can "call their
own".
If this land is sold off, there will be more of the uberrich, here to build their dream
lake houses, and store their expensive toys - tearing down the memories of
families that have been here for generations.
I'm sure that real estate agents and contractors will be comping at the bit to cash
in on the experience.
And if it doesn't already seem like every working class member of this community
is a second-class citizen, this land selling to more of the upper class will confirm
it.
47Amanda 171 lake trail I grew up in Idaho. Have lived in the McCall area since I was 6 years old. The last
McConnell drive Donnelly 25 years there have been many many changes. I understand that change is
83615 necessary at times. I appreciate that without tourism our towns would not
survive. But I am disgusted to think that my children will not know the easy
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access and beauty that this land swap would take away. I absolutely do not
support the state selling off this land so that rich men can get richer. This is our
land. Public land. It should remain so. All should be able to experience the beauty
and wildness that McCall has to offer right in its back yard. The locals and people
who live here full tim have absolutely nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by
allowing this land swap to move forward. The thought literally makes me sick.
Please do not move forward with this travesty.
48Nancy Lane 2349 Please keep Idaho Endowment Lands whole. Please do not do a land swap that
Whiteman would result in loss of access to the beautiful Payette Lake. This is a bad move
Lane Indian for Valley County.
Valley, ID
83632
49Melanie 2260 Valley My family moved to McCall 43 years ago, and I was lucky enough to grow up in
Hickey View Drive, the little town I still call home. From a young age, my dad took us out to
(Maiden Weiser Idaho adventure in the areas surrounding our great town. We are already experiencing
Name: so much growth and change in our little town. Please help us preserve the
Beaver) serenity and special place so many of us still call home! I am OPPOSED to the
proposed land swap, please preserve our town, environment, and beauty!
50Jayme 170 Brookdale I am 100 percent against the land swap. We as a family have been enjoying those
Berheim Drive McCall lands since the 1950s when my family moved into the valley to work at the local
Idaho 83638 sawmills till the day the McCall mill shut down. Thank you for the opportunity to
comment. Jayme Berheim
51Andrew 14029 Our family strongly supports the city of McCall making wearing of masks in public
Nachman Comfort Rd. indoor places mandatory.
McCall, ID Our family also strongly opposes considering a land swap for any land near to or
83638 on the lake.
52Danielle 7015 west Leave it public
Pingree Goodale trail
lane
53Rebecca PO Box 764 NO on land sell/swap on area around McCall to any company or corporation
McKenna New Meadows
ID
54Dakota 162 Platt Selling public land will destroy McCall and surrounding areas. Stupidest decision
Hughes Place Donnelly ever even suggested. This will change the community for the worse forever,
these lands provide so much for the community, hiking, hunting, biking and so
much more. McCall is turning into a piece of garbage due to people trying to
destroy our beautiful wildlife and nature.
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55Sarah 6708 W Please don’t trade off our public land in the McCall area. This is a land many many
Johnson Morton Dr people enjoy that can’t afford large lavish homes on the lake. Please keep our
Boise ID 83704
public land for all Idahoans to use!
56David Robey 505 Sunset I am very much against the proposed 28,000 acres land swap. This would be a
Street, McCall, huge detriment to the community of McCAll and county. The community is
ID. 83638 fortunate and unique to have this land as an area to enjoy, and losing it to a
private entity would devalue the quality of life of those living here.
57Jeff 105 Brundage As a McCall resident and Idaho native, I am strongly opposed to exchanging
Mousseau View Ct, 28,000 acres of endowment lands managed by the Idaho Department of Lands
McCall, ID, (IDL) in the McCall area as proposed by to the IDL and Trident Holdings and
83638 others in the past. These lands serve as a fundamental open and wild land
resource to the residents of McCall, Valley County and the State of Idaho and
should remain public, protected under State of Idaho control for perceptuality.
These lands boarder half of the entirety of McCall; provide prime wildlife habitat;
include waterways and watersheds that are the drinking water supply to our
town; and provide many recreational opportunities from camping to hiking to
woodcutting to birdwatching. In no case should these lands be liquidated
through leasing, exchanging or selling for private ownership.
58Scott 410 Floyde St. I think this swap and future development need to be considered fully before any
Jackson McCall, ID move is allowed to be made, and I think it would be in the interest of the town
83638 and county to investigate whether a bond issue could be a potential way to bring
this land into the public fold for the long term. Maybe at a minimum primary
locations of public use and or primary routs of access to public federal lands
beyond could be preserved through conservation easements or other legal
means of maintaining access. If this were achieved some or all of the areas locals
treasure could be given more long term security instead of having to address
these threats each time a boom is occurring in town. Each wave of boom and
bust leaves a little more development in its wake and makes it more and more
important to stand up and fight to preserve what remains of the natural beauty
and public land ethos that defines and enriches this area.
59Shelby 14050 pioneer I find it very unsettling that a private development firm is trying to convince the
Monroe road McCall, general public with scare tactics into trading all the remaining Idaho state public
ID 83638 lands in McCall for land at the northern end of the state. Pitching this as if they
are doing it to save our lands??? What?? So it has nothing to do with hundreds
of millions of dollars to be made? This will be awful for McCall. Please don’t do
it.
60John 2750 E. As a person who has traveled to and recreated in McCall many times (bringing
Paschke Migratory Dr. lots of money to the local economy), I am horrified by the proposal to privatize
Boise ID 83706 so much public land. McCall is a treasure, and access to trails and wilderness is
the main ingredient of its magic. Allowing this "land swap" to move forward
would be a huge mistake negatively impacting the whole state.
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61Chuck 206 mission This cannot happen! No more selling off public land to the highest bidder!! This
Seubert St. is absolutely the worst idea the state has done yet. Valley county residents will
not stand for this! This is unbelievable that it’s even a consideration!!!
62Ashli Phelps3068 State St, As someone among many who was raised within the small but mountainous
New valley, it hurts to see it offered up to a private sector that really only wants to
Meadows, burn a bigger hole in their pocket. Yes, this will indeed bring in more revenue for
Idaho 83654 our small town, but it will take away all the true value that this town holds:
community. The citizens here have valuable memories along those coastlines, a
sort of secrecy to be held with one another when the wave of tourists enter and
we all need a deep breather from interacting with them. It’s where we citizens
take time to enjoy our town with the wildlife that it holds and the foraging we
prosper from.
You mean to say you want to take that all away from the people who help run
the town? The restaurant owners, the store owners, the recreational guides, the
summer programs, the hotel workers, the hospital workers, and the employed
AKA the people who make this town for what it is? You take away this, you take
away our community.
In reality, that’s what makes McCall, McCall. We have an amazing community
that truly enjoys the business of tourist seasons IF we ourselves get to experience
it too. A COMMUNITY built McCall, but it won’t last if it’s drowned out by tourism
and greedy expansion.
63Derrick 1435 We cannot continue to turn over our public lands to private money. Please do
Dilworth Bitterroot DR. not let this happen! I’m a full-time resident of McCall and I can’t imagine all of
McCall, ID that beautiful public land being controlled by private parties with zero oversight.
83638
64Rochelle 650 Douglas Please don’t swap our land! I am 5th generation to the McCall area and my son
DeMossDrivemakes 6th...this land is what makes our area magical and it should never be
sacrificed!
65Geoffrey 832 E Silver I disagree with the selling of public land in and around Payette Lake to any private
Bauchman Torch St firm.
66mike 72 Finn church I would like to hear more about the idea of what trident holdings is trying to
smithwick lane McCall pursue.. at this moment I don’t believe it’s a fair deal to Mccall residence or the
idaho economy to the pristine mountain Town.. I don’t believe that the land swap is a
fair trade..At this time I would not except and land swap deals
67Mary Nitcy 173 Finn Money should not be able to take this beautiful land from all the people who
Church Lane enjoy the amazing surroundings of Payette Lake. God is not making any more
land . We need to remember money is not everything!
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68Joel Nitcy 173 Finn Not in favor of the land swap. The current public lands around Payette Lake are
Church Lane, an asset allowing visitors to recreate in our beautiful community. There are
McCall, ID
other ways for the state to generate revenue.
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69Mary Shaw 1356 Elo Road, This is a VERY BAD idea! We need to keep some land public and accessible to all
McCall, Idaho rather than sold to developers.
70Amber P.o. Box 801 Lodging facilities such as hotels and timeshares,, second homes and vacation
Fenich McCall ID home rentals should not be open at full capacity!!!! This amount of tourists is
83638 what has caused the several new corona virus cases in valley county. Please
rollback to half occupancy before it multiplies and all of us workers and locals are
sick. Please and thank you!!!
71Jodie Jensen300 East Lake Please DO NOT privatize Payette Lake. It is why McCall is such a special place!
St McCall, ID
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72Kit Woras 392 Moon I am VERY opposed to any potential land swap in the vicinity of Payette Lake, or
Drive McCall anywhere around McCall. The value that these public lands provide to the
ID 83638 community is far beyond the monetary value of the land proposed for the
exchange. It helps support this community’s way of life. It is available for
everyone to enjoy. If this asset is lost it will fundamentally alter the character of
this community, and not for the better. There is no going back on a decision like
this. It is vital that this public land is preserved for the enjoyment of everyone
and not sold off to the highest bidder for only a few to enjoy. If this land is traded
into public hands access to those areas will be lost. Forever. Please take a stand
to protect public lands that provide so much for those in our community and
beyond. Do the right thing. Say NO to this land exchange.
73Chris Melink 791 Harcourt This would be an enormous precedent that could start a land grab in Idaho.
Rd Boise Idaho Preserve our public lands and say no to large outside investors. Please, our future
83702 generations will want to enjoy the land like we have.
74Michael PO Box 874 BG Keep public land in public hands. I oppose any land swap. t's a bad idea.
Mitchell WA 98604
75Joseph 2800 N Bogus This land has created countless memories that I have been able to share with
Adams Basin Rd Apt fellow friends. Snowmobiling from the cabin to ride up to brundage to grab a
C202 beer in the winter, catching my first tiger muskie in little payette, and watching
numerous sunsets from beautiful area known as the thinking rock. Not to
mention this was the first spot I ever told my significant other I loved her. It
would hurt to see this land go into private hands only to end the possibility of
sharing this awesome experience that land can have on others. Please really
consider the feelings of the people who have a true connection to this land.
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76Joe Luff 414 Floyde St. I am writing to express my 100% opposition to the land exchange being discussed
McCall, ID amongst IDL and Trident Holdings. Regardless of the financial gains it would bring
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the beneficiaries, it would be a grave mistake to allow these lands to be
privatized and sold off to the highest bidder. The beauty and entire character of
McCall would change negatively should this deal come to fruition.
77Jared 1639 Dear Council, please DO NOT support a new york base group of investors that
ALexander Lakeridge want to take away all of our open space that is currently state land. This is a bad
Drive idea and will change the shape of our great city as we know it. The land they are
proposing to swap IS NOT apples for apples. I urge every council member to take
a hard look at this and realize they are simply trying to make a buck with total
disregard of the impact it will be on all of us. There will be more truths coming
out about this. Thank you for your time.
78Justin 7720 S. Cole I don't believe privatizing land and selling to the highest bidder is the proper way
Covert Rd, Boise ID, to fund the state or any other agenda. If we keep taking public land and turning
83709 into something else we will lose generations of exploring and outdoor activities
will minimize.
Humans need to be in the great outdoors. If anyone has not hiked, biked, or
explored any of the great outdoor scenery and natural habitats of wild animals
then they don't understand.
Something about being just lost in the moment and scenery without a bunch of
crowds really eases the soul. Don't keep taking these experiences away from the
people that live here, and have history passed generation to generation.
Thank you.
79Karen Elam475 Moon Dr.Please keep our public lands sacred. We definitely do not want or need any more
development around our beautiful lake.
80Brooke 2800 N Bogus Please please please do not do this. McCall Is an Idaho treasure, and i know you
Patteson Basin Rd know that. I have always loved McCall and I enjoyed living/working there from
Boise,ID 83702 2017 to 2018. The best thing about McCall is being able to be by the lake, in the
trees, in undeveloped land and get away from the distractions of city/people. It
is an escape for me along with thousands of other people. I hope to call McCall
home permanently someday soon and it breaks my heart to see that the best
part of the town could be taken away. This is not Idaho if we are going to privatize
our beautiful public lands so that nobody can enjoy them the way nature
intended us to enjoy them. So i say again...please do not take the land from us.
Do the right thing, forget about the money and think about the
land/people/animals/habitat that would be effected.
Thank you.
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81Kathy Schon 902 Valley Rim Re: selling land to Trident LLC.
rd McCall
It would be an absolute tragedy to give up these beautiful lands for mere wealth.
Idaho
How many more second or third homes does this area need? How many more
displays of money does this landscape have to bear? How many locals will lose
their most treasured spots?
The land in question is one of the biggest gems for locals in the area. It's easy to
get to after a long shift downtown (serving summer visitors) to go climb Thinking
Spot. It's a beautiful, safe area for young families and their kiddos to explore. And
most of all, it's one of the only pieces of McCall left that the locals can "call their
own".
If this land is sold off, there will be more of the uberrich, here to build their dream
lake houses, and store their expensive toys - tearing down the memories of
families that have been here for generations.
And if it doesn't already seem like every working class member of this community
is a second-class citizen, this land selling to more of the upper class will confirm
it.
82Allison 13127 Hawks This is wrong. Our Commissioners and State Lands commissioners need to take
HatzenbuhlBay Road, a couple of field trips. Visit Tahoe. Visit CDA. And so many others. Do we really
er Donnelly, ID want our lake to look like this? I understand that growth is inevitable... but
83615 controlled growth is imperative. Our environment can't handle this. Our
infrastructure can't handle this. Our lake water can't handle this. We can't even
get blooms/pollution under control now and you KNOW that this property will
be developed and allow 1,000's of visitors to use and abuse our precious lands.
JUST SAY NO! Be strong! See what happens to other areas when these 'deals' are
made. FOLLOW THE MONEY! Who is benefitting from this 'swap'? I'm sure if this
financial trail was followed we would know exactly who is behind it and why!
STOP THE MADNESS!
83Rick 13127 Hawks Please keep these lands open to the public!!! We don’t need a mega resort with
HatzenbuhlBay Road visitors who will not take care of our land. Our infrastructure cannot handle the
er Donnelly, ID abundance of cars it vessels. Keep our roads and waterways clean. Keep the land
83615 open to the public - swapping this property closed access. I would love to hear
about the closed door dealings... we all know that someone is walking away from
this with a loaded wallet and it sure won’t be the public. Once this property is
gone, we will NEVER get it back. Generations from now will know that you all
sold us out. Don’t do it. If you do anything in your life, let it be a legacy of open
land.
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84Maggie and 260 Finn After reviewing the proposal for a land swap with the McCall and northern Idaho
Clay Wright Church Lane. timberlands, we would be appalled to lose public lands. By allowing a privately
Lake Fork commissioned real estate company to propose a land swap is only in their best
Idaho interest It is more than obvious that a real estate company is not looking into
preserving public lands for Idaho’s public or wildlife but for their own private
gain. We would also be concerned of any ethics with members, families and
friends of the board that could gain to benefit . Once you lose public lands it is
gone forever as this is a land grab by a real estate company for their own profits.
These public lands get more use than northern Idaho lands due to the sheer
proximity of the public; hunting, hiking, wildlife watching, skiing, snowmobiling
,mountain biking, huckleberry picking, morel mushroom picking and just
providing open spaces surrounding a beloved community. As well as public
access, selling off this land to a real estate company will also severely impact
wildlife habitat. There is much more than money to consider in this proposal.
Look at the whole picture and not just the possible economics which seem
limited at best.
85margaret 1740 bear Please consider mandatory masks in public places to help prevent spread of
rosenthal basin road covid 19
86David thiede1010 I have lived in mccall for 30 years. I'm sooo sick of mccallmaking stupid decisions.
meadows road Look what happened when red ridge was sold to Texans. We want our public
lands to stay pure for all to enjoy. The last thing we need is rich Californians
building million dollar homes on our lake. tourism, and out of state rich
assholes who think they can buy up our land. The last thing we want is to turn
mccall into Tahoe. THAT!!!!
87Rayann Pyle 204 Eld Lane I was born and raised in McCall. I grew up on that lake, hiking those mountains,
Donnelly ID picking huckleberries with my grandparents, and bonding over campfires with
83615 my family. Taking away this access from the public not only takes away the joys
of the locals, but also takes my childhood memories away from me. My grandpa’s
memory lives and thrives in McCall and all of its beautiful attributes.
88Brenna Brenna.spadeLet’s keep this land open for nature, for wildlife, and for everyone to enjoy. We
Spade @aol.com do not need more developments around this lake. This is Idaho, it’s beautiful and
it’s known for its lands and beauty. We can’t have that taken away!
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89Todd Cook1980 Sorrel Dr I strongly oppose and new development around the lake and proposed area. We
New Meadows have enough rapid development and growth going on in the area, (not to
mention closing off more areas thanks to the Wilkes Bros) and this will only make
it 100 times worse. I have lived in many mountain towns across the country
(Wrightwood, CA, Leavenworth WA, Driggs, ID, Flathead Valley MT, Pagosa
Springs, CO) and seen what overdevelopment does... Its ruins the reason so
many of us live and vacation in these places. These special places can only take
so much population and development without also taxing resources.
Thank you,
Todd C.
90April 18 Knob Hill Dear McCall City Councilors,
Whitney Drive, McCall,
I am writing in support of the McCall City Council taking strong action to help
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stem the tide of COVID-19. At a MINIMUM, the Council should make a resolution
supporting masks in public places, similar to the Jackson Hole resolution
mentioned yesterday.
I would also like to urge the Council to seriously consider STRONGER action, in
the shape of a public health order or emergency order like we’ve seen in Hailey
and Moscow.
I am sympathetic to the concerns voiced at the 6-30-2020 meeting about our
local law enforcement not having appropriate staffing to enforce the order, or
more specifically, respond and issue citations. I do not think the only value in
having an ORDER is how many citations can be written. We do not cite everyone
who violates the speed limit in this town, but having the force of law behind a
speed limit encourages more people to follow it, whether or not they get a ticket.
I would urge the council to look at a mask order (versus what will amount to one
more polite suggestion) in the same vein.
Businesses in this town are making huge sacrifices in the name of public health
in closing their doors, canceling profitable events, and changing hours and
operations. Citizens are nervous and scared. This global pandemic is hitting home
and our local leaders need to do not just what is expedient, but do EVERYTHING
IN THEIR POWER to help stem the tide of this epidemic.
Thank you for your conscientious consideration.
Respectfully,
April Whitney
91Kristen 13761 The valley county infrastructure cannot handle the additional people that the
DeGarimore Clearview land swap would bring to the area. Look at the current issues with regards to
Road, McCall, traffic. In order to keep Valley county a beautiful area encouraging people to
ID 83638 visit, it should not be dotted with houses and limited access to the wilderness.
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In addition highway 55 cannot handle the current traffic flows what would
happen if that increased for the new developments.
92Jodee 604 Whipkey Please do not trade the lake front property - it belongs to the public and should
McDowell Lane, McCall, be kept that way for current and future generations. There are millions of a acres
ID of timberland but a very limited lake properties. The recreational opportunity
for lake front property is unlimited. Please do not give it away by making a
terrible decision.
93Tim Kerrigan 551 S Samson Please do not move forward transferring state land to the north of Payette lake
Tr, McCall ID to a private entity. Doing so will forever change the character of McCall for the
83638 worse.
No matter the promises that will be made by the developers the scenic beauty
and natural habitat will be negatively affected. Not too mention the fact that
public access would be forever lost.
94Claire 10307 184th I oppose the Payette Lake Land Exchange proposed by Trident LLC. As a lover of
Mitchell Ave. SW, McCall and its citizens, I ask the McCall City Council to please explore other
Rochester, WA options that would keep this state land parcel for public, not private, use.
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95Steve 1455 Given that we have residents and visitors who are not inclined to practice social
Hellman Bitterroot Dr. distancing or use face masks, can we have our merchants in McCall designate
certain hours that would be for mask wearing customers and employees so that
we can safely shop?
96James 411 Deinhard With such very low numbers of Covid19 cases, 6 in fact, in Valley county I'm
O'Brien Lane McCall surprised this is even a concern. See here June 26th:
Idaho 83638
https://www.mccall.id.us/city-mccall-updates/html/tags/
Please vote down the mandatory face covering with future consideration to be
revisited only if needed, say 100 cases county wide.
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97Heidi Carter1225 I truly believe that in the best interest of McCall that we should not allow
Meadows outsiders to purchase said land without looking at their true intent. Please look
Road into the land purchased around New Meadows and surrounding areas that used
to be public grounds and is now controlled, gated, has trail cameras, and is
patrolled. That land used to be where generations of families camped, hunted,
and hiked and now is completely shut off. Allowing McCall to be controlled like
that would be a complete killer of not only tourist attractions but where are the
locals supposed to go? As someone who personally lives where some of the land
behind me would be purchased, I would be so disappointed. I couldn’t spend my
time up there with my family or even go up there at all. I hope that there will be
the right decisions made for our little mountain town. Please consider the locals
and their families.
98Talor 1225 Out of McCall best interest I believe this is a awful idea. Us locals and our family’s
Williamsmeadows spend a lot of time up there as well as many other things such as harvesting fire
road. McCall wood, picking mushrooms and berrys or just out with their dogs in the hills. I
Idaho 83638 believe that this would even have a negative impact on tourist in McCall. This is
happening all around us, just look at mud creek and surrounding areas in new
meadows Idaho. Those were generational hunting grounds for Family’s including
mine and now it’s locked off to the public. Allowing outsiders to step in and turn
one of the most beautiful towns in Idaho into a business venture making
“millions” while the locals are forced to suffer is not something that I stand by
nor should anyone at that point.
99Janet white14098 Morell When I first heard about this I thought it was a bad joke. When I found out it was
Road. McCall true I could hardly believe it.
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This is not the first time that the land board and others have slipped through
these land sales/swaps around my neighborhood. First the sale of 160 acres up
Boulder Lake Road which a developer broke into broke into 20 acre parcels—-
never heard about it. Now one of the property owners has succeeded in building
a “Venue” which was fought against and ultimately okayed by our crooked P&Z.
Then the Zip Line goes in up the same road with no one in the neighborhood
hearing about it. There are other examples elsewhere as well.
Now we have this enormous insult to the community of McCall! I guess this was
just too big to hide.
Who in their right mind would consider such an offer? We are experiencing
enough growth for our little town but at least it’s private property.
You will be considering ruining the jewel of the Payette—-lake, land and river.
It’s an area unsurpassed in it’s draw for thousands of boaters, hikers, trail riders
and fishermen. It’s a place of sanctuary and refuge from our over-built cities.
If this is approved it will tell us how little we matter and how much money talks.
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Silly me, I thought our state leaders were looking out for us.
Janet White,
100Mandi 13154 This is not a benefit.
Cameron drive
Donnelly Idaho
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101Mark Grim bullet83712@please keep this land public. It is one of the great things about idaho and McCall
yahoo.com is that there is still public land to enjoy. You do not have to be ulta wealthy to
enjoy the idaho outdoors.
102Larry 1504 Louisa This land swap proposal is a VERY big deal. The decision here will impact McCall
Hauder Ave, McCall, ID residents for generations.
103Madison 14020 country As a McCall local, I find access to nature be one of my top priorities. Selling this
Hanousek way Mccall, ID land away will limit recreation to local but also tourists. Keep payette lake in
83638 public hands!
104Crystal 1426 Stone Ln I oppose the privatization of land surrounding Payette Lake and Little Payette
Ormsby / PO Box 785, Lake.
McCall, Idaho
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105Andrew 510 Colorado Please do not consider allowing the public endowment land surrounding Payette
Cochrane St, McCall Lake to be developed. It must not be traded with the Boise developers in
exchange for the north Idaho timberland.
We live in an aquatic ecosystem. Aquatic ecosystems include not only the lakes,
streams, and wetlands, but the terrestrial uplands as well. McCall's very identity
is the undeveloped, forested mountains surrounding the lake. This natural
resource is what gives McCall its value. In natural resource economics, non-
monetary values MUST be considered along with monetary values. The non-use
values of the public land surrounding Payette Lake are enormous. I am confident
that a thorough study of all values involved in this proposal would reveal that the
non-use values far outweigh the use values of the land.
Ecosystem changes on this scale have very long-term consequences. It would be
nothing short of irresponsible for the state to make the proposed trade and allow
development of these lands without a thorough analysis of the complex
ecosystem changes that would be involved.
The National Academy of Sciences has published a study on the necessity of
valuing ecosystem services, and its findings cannot be ignored. The report may
be accessed via the URL
https://www.nap.edu/download/11139. Based on the conclusions of the study,
the committee makes the following recommendations. These illustrate the fact
that the value of these state lands cannot be measured merely in terms of
economic profit and loss:
makers should use economic valuation as a means of evaluating the
trade-offs involved in environmental policy choices; that is, an assessment of
benefits and costs should be part of the information set available to policymakers
in choosing among alternatives.
associated with changes in ecosystem services should be included along with
other impacts to ensure that ecosystem effects are adequately considered in
policy evaluation.
comprehensive definition embodied in the TEV framework; both use and nonuse
values should be included.
particular, it should value
the changes in ecosystem good or services attributable to a policy change.
the consumption
discount rate, reflecting changes in scarcity over time, should be used instead of
the utility discount rate.
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In 1907, President Theodore Roosevelt said, “The nation behaves well if it treats
the natural resources as assets which it must turn over to the next generation
increased and not impaired in value.” Let us behave well by increasing the value
of the vast natural resources in this aquatic ecosystem. Do not simply give in to
purely economic pressures without a thorough consideration of the loss of non-
monetary value inherent in a land trade such as this. This decision cannot be
made responsibly without a very thorough, exhausting study of all of the values
involved.
106Christopher 12 Buckskin Any trade or sale of public lands is always a bad deal as year round revenue is
Church Dr. Donnelly, lost and the public gets locked out of lands previously accessed.
ID.
107Jessica Haws 13831 Just say no!
Highway 55
McCall, ID
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108Erin Fanning1503 Davis I am very concerned about the proposed land swap with Trident Holdings for the
Avenue, following reasons: the majority of the investors are from New York; the plans to
McCall, 83638 preserve public space, as well as other development plans, are vague; and it isn't
clear if the land appraisal was done independently. Please proceed with caution-
-McCall (and the land surrounding it) is too precious to jeopardize and often the
promises of developers fall flat. Thank you for your time, Erin Fanning
109Kim Binder 930 Ridge Rd Please reconsider this sale. We need to keep land open for the public to use and
McCall enjoy. As lands become more and more locked up the lands for the public get
smaller and smaller with more people out there and it’s going to get ugly. Why
should the wealthy be the only ones to enjoy this area we call home.
110Deborah 2616 As a native Idahoan with long & deep roots in McCall, I oppose the land swap
Davies Meadowlark with Trident Holdings. As a teacher, I understand the need for funding education,
Wagnet Dr. Lewiston Id but this is not the way. You just don’t trade off your most valuable asset, they’re
83501 not making any more of it! Trident is attempting to use the state against itself
and against the long-term interests of its citizens to enjoy the very assets that
make us & our state so very special & valuable. Please say no to Trident, no to
selling our birthright to enjoy this beautiful state we call home.
111Gerry Greer255 TRE Lane, Kudos to the City of McCall for finally following May Hardware’s lead in regard
PO Box 2214, to their new policy regarding the wearing of masks in public places.
McCall, ID
Walking into either of McCall’s two grocery stores over the last two months,
rarely would you see more than 3 out of 10 customers wearing a mask.
Had every person in Valley County, resident or visitor, followed the guidelines of
the Trump Administration and the CDC, the COVID-19 “positive” rate would not
be starting to spike.
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In light of evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public
settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g.,
grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-
based transmission.
Thank you.
112Cindy Greer122 Scott RD. Please I beg that you do not make our Public Lands private! It’s our heritage and
White Bird, ID. a legacy I want my grandchildren to enjoy and understand. Once it’s gone; it’s
83554 gone and it’s a priceless treasure money can’t buy.
113Stephanie 430 Ringel St. This land proposal is absolutely not in the best interest of McCall or its citizens.
Schaff McCall, ID Bruce Smith will not disclose his investors and cannot speak to having any
83638 previous experience managing public lands. I urge and indeed beg the council
not to allow this proposal to move forward in any state or form. Thank you.
114Cole Morton 304 Hill Rd Do not sell that land! There are a ton of people that love going there and making
McCall, ID it private would severely limit basically every high schoolers after school
83638 activities. Don't be a sell-out, McCall. Listen to the people. Is one person buying
the land worth thousands of people's happiness?
115Tyson 546 South DO NOT relinquish public property. I'm sure the people who have property in the
Murphy State Street area have no desire to travel to Northern fricking Idaho to recreate. This is BS.
Preston, ID Quit letting rich prick land grabs happen.
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116Jeanne 1125 Heavens Please do everything possible as a city to keep the lands around Payette Lake and
Mitchell Gate Ct McCall to the South out of the hands of developers. The developers will do just that,
develop. This is prime pristine land that needs to stay open, not be developed
for the use of a few wealthy individuals. There is very little chance anyone from
here is going to go recreate on the land they want to swap for.
117James 1101 N Gage Good day,
HerzogLn, Nampa, ID
I am not a resident of McCall, but we do come up there on occasion. I was
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dismayed when I heard that the state was considering a land swap with a group
that would give them 28000 acres in your area. I do understand the
constitutional mandate that the lands have to be managed for maximum long
term gain, disposing of this land is short sited and will only serve to maximize
short term money and in the long run will benefit the development company
more than the students in our state.
Additionally, the area will no doubt be developed into properties that most of us
cannot afford. The area will grow substantially with out of state "residents" and
wealthy individuals while us local outdoorsmen will lose significant public access.
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I encourage you to resist the call for the council to support this land swap and
would love to see the city council publicly and outwardly oppose it. I realize the
state makes the final decision, but the more voices that speak against it.
Finally, we should work together to find a way to ensure that the most long term
financial benefit comes form keeping the land open and public. There will no
doubt be other people that will want to acquire the land in the future.
Thank you for your time and your public service.
James Herzog
118Kyle Dartnell 300 Huffman Dear McCall City Council, I wanted to express to you my ardent sentiment against
Dr., Ketchum, privatizing the public land surround Payette Lake in the "land swap". Our future
83340 as a state is with sustainable sources for our economy, with tourism and
recreation on our beautiful public land foremost among them. Please do not
privatize.
All the best,
Kyle
119Sydney 101 East Lake Do not let them take away our Payette public lands!!!
Alacano Street
120Jaden 23 West I believe that privatizing this land would be a detrimental blow to our local tourist
Guardia Prospectors economy, and not only deny access to so much beautiful old growth forest, but
Drive Cascade also put that land in direct risk of degradation from building and logging. If this
Idaho 83611 land is sold the quality of our community members lives will undoubtedly shift
for the worse. This is our land to recreate on! If this land is sold more out of state
millionaires will come in and buy up parcels of our beautiful land and build their
vacation mansions. If all that is left of this place is mansions where will the
vacation be?
121Bambi 272 east Do not privatize more of our precious public lands! The public is already locked
Halcom snowy owl st out of a large amount of pristine country. Keep our public lands public.
Kuna Ida
122Abby Cain AbigailGraceCPlease keep over 28,000 acres of currently accessible state land surrounding
ain@gmail.coPayette Lake and Little Payette Lake in public hands! Some of my favorite
m memories are here, keep it public!
123Amy Rush 127 Kens place We must do everything in our power to keep our public lands. No matter how
seductive the offer is, privatizing these essential resources is a fatal blow to the
great equalizer in our community- access!
124Nathan 9192 W This land NEEDS to remain public. It would be a horrible disservice to the people
Whitaker Shelterwood of Idaho to lose this
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125Mary Wynn 13855 McCall is a small resort town. Allowing a developer to land swap and develop
Williams Rd600 acres would be devastating to this community. Your one lane road can barely
handle summer traffic. Schools,hospital, 4rm library, markets, lake, ski areas,
water supply would all be overwhelmed.Air pollution will be worse. If 1000 more
full time residents move here Where will they work? You should keep your
community small and don't be over run by greedy developers.
126Rebecca PO Box 764, Please, please do not even consider the sale of any public lands in and around
McKennaNew Meadows the great town of McCall. This majestic area should be preserved and protected
ID for generations to come.
127Lisa 240 East State Please do not allow Trident purchase public state land north of Payette Lake. This
Glodowski St, Donnelly would be a disaster for the Valley to lose a complete beautiful, and wild piece of
Idaho 83615 land that locals and tourists enjoy. Paddling up the North Fork is one of my
favorite summer activities and brings in thousands of tourists to enjoy. We must
protect the public land from becoming private. Please do not allow Trident to
but or trade this land. Keep McCall wild and free!
128Kari Alt PO Box 4101 Please DO NOT hand over control of our local watershed and our community's
McCall, Idaho future to developers whose bottom line is profit.
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129James Alt 1104 Mos's Please keep the state lands intact and do not succumb to development pressure
Way #4101 from entitled companies and individuals.
130Susan 135 Eddy I am strongly opposed to the endowment lands being exchanged/purchase by
Rainsberry Circle, PO Box Trident. I would rather buy an annual access permit from the State to meet their
2665, McCall endowment requirements and have the State retain these lands for continued
ID 83638 historical recreational access, than to have the lands owned by a development
company or other private party.
131David 723 Lick Crick To paraphrase Aldo Leopold, What if we stopped viewing the forests and wildlife
Gallipoli Rd McCall, Id habitat of McCall - and hence ,the public domain in purely economic terms?
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132Ariana 411 Deinhard I have lived in McCall my entire life. My days are spent on the northern end of
Woods Ln. Suite F Payette lake in the summer and I cannot imagine seeing palatial houses dividing
McCall Idaho up the land on this end of the lake. The most special thing about McCall is it’s
83638 northern wilderness that offers miles of scenic rivers and tall pines that are open
to the public to explore. Nothing would make me sadder than seeing this place,
that has shaped who I am today, divided up into private properties that have
houses and the inevitable pollution that comes with it. As a young adult who
plans to be in McCall for the next 60 years, I hope we as a community can realize
how essential it is for the wild places we love to stay as they are. My mother left
Lake Tahoe California, which resembles McCall in many ways, because it became
overrun with the wealthy masses who think they can buy their way into a
community. I know McCall can learn from this example and avoid this fate by
holding our state lands in high priority and keeping this amazing state aswild and
beautiful as possible. The future generations will thank you.
133Kelly Martin 102 E Park St I strongly oppose the IDL land transfer. No doubt any of the development around
McCall, ID the lake will lead to expensive properties that no one who lives here locally can
83638 afford. This does NOT benefit the community and the locals of McCall. Those who
live here enjoy being outside and utilizing public lands. Development of those
places will be forever detrimental to everything we love about living in McCall. I
am not opposed to development itself, but look at the many subdivisions in and
around McCall that have hundreds of empty lots. We don’t NEED this and I’m
extremely concerned this will ruin the integrity of this town.
134Blake Hanks 1801 Carico Selling off our public lands to any corporation can not happen !We can’t stand
rd. Mccall , by and let the state sell off public lands with no respect for those who live in the
Idaho area! Are we so bloody money hungry that we would sell off the lands that we
love and make Mccall what it is.... please turn this down for all generations to
come!
135Gwen Box 4081 Trident holdings has ZERO interest in preservation. This is a plan for roads,
Asmussen McCall, ID development and destruction of our beautiful lake front. The state has been
83638 selling off land to the highest bidders for years, look at the sheer devastation
they did to the old Brundage road. That timber sale turned into a huge trash pile
left to rot. If passed, our lake front will be a series of clear cuts, mega mansions
and trash piles.
To quote the ICL “ While details are vague, it appears that lakefront homes,
condos and other structures could occupy up to 40 miles of lakefront on Payette
and Little Payette lakes, as well as several miles along the North Fork of the
Payette River.”
This land should either somehow be bought by the land trust, donated to the city
of Mccall, not sold to the highest bidder for development
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136Monica 1102 Baycolt I am writing about the state land swap. As the land is endowment land, I’m not
Morrison Way sure what we can do to preserve it for the public. But I think we should seek to
see if there is a way to work with the state. I am much more worried about that
land remaining public than I am about a new library. Could a price be reached to
allow the city to buy the land? Or maybe work with the Payette Land Trust?
McCall with out public land surrounding the lake would be an entirely different
place. Could we put the $8 million towards the purchase of that land instead of
a library?
Speaking of the library, I think there would be more public support for a
recreation center with a library in it. Maybe with a pool and indoor track,
climbing wall... AND a library and meeting rooms. I agree we need a community
center, just not sure a library is the right way to frame it.
137Alice Brown624 I am writing to voice my concern over the proposed land swap involving Trident
Woodlands Holdings. I am fiercely opposed to any change involving the current public access
Drive McCall, of this land, as it is an important resource for our community that must not be
Idaho altered. Preserve this for our future generations.
Thank you,
Alice Brown
138Lori Moody 13642 I do not support the land swap with the Idaho Departmetn of Lands for two
Highway 55, reasons:
(PO Box 4642)
McCall, Idaho McCall, the sourrounding areas or the State do not have the infrastructure to
83638 handle such a big project in my opinion. It's July in McCall and you can hardly
get through town (there is one main road) and Highway 55 can hardly handle the
traffic now. The intent may be that the residential planned is for locals, but in
reality will that be the case? Locals can not afford housing as it is.
Secondly
, the lands were set aside to the public use, for a reason, If the state
continues to sale off public lands, where will future generaation be able to enjoy
this beautiful state.
139Mike 13642 I oppose the State land swamp with Trident Holdings.
Leedom HIghway 55
(PO Box 616)
McCall Idaho
140susan dalton 430 floyde st. just stop the gentrification.
po box 435
141Leslie PO Box NO, to Trident Holdings!
Pollard 211/13049
Hillhouse Loop
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142Tobin 309 Silverpine If you consider but one fact in this decision it is that Trident Holdings is “land
PurslowDr. McCall ID development” group. Despite any promises to the contrary Trident’s founding
83638 principal is to develop land not conserve it. In considering this fact the decision
to terminate this deal is quite simple.
143Joseph 2609 N Pines Please listen to the feedback and input from my friends and family (Davidson)
Davidson Spokane who have lived in the area for generations.
Valley
If funds are desperately needed please find other sources rather than selling this
Washington
land for development. Thank you,
99206
Joseph R. Davidson
144Steve & 307 Mather We are opposed to any idea that would put our public lands in private hands.
Patricia Road, McCall,
Minor ID
145Julie 53 Silver Fox Please, please DO NOT let the state sell off land around the lake and McCall to
McFarlane-Trail, McCall, private interests. The loss would be permanent and short sighted. Trident isn’t
Platt ID 83638 interested in helping our community, just as the Wilkes and Midas weren’t. We
know McCall is growing, and changing, but this is not a good move. Please stand
up to selling these prime pieces of property that keep our area open, and not at
the mercy of private land owners. We should not be selling endowed lands!
Thank you! Julie McFarlane -Platt
146Jenn Gray 317 Mather Please ask Alec Williams specifically how much of the 28,000 acres of land he
Road, McCall plans to develop and which pieces of land that will be. I strongly oppose this land
83638swap, and think there are much better ways to provide revenue to public schools
that do not include endangering our drinking water, and decreasing the small
amount of public lake access that we already have.
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147Susan 1634 lakeridge I am opposed to the land swap. In my opinion it does not make good economic
McCandless dr north, or business sense. We need to evaluate the full picture, push our government
to act at with high skill level, and learn from other's mistakes. If IDL is allowed to
McCall, ID.
83638 move forward with this deal the State government shows a lack of competency;
over utilizing political savvy and under utilizing managing with vision, values and
integrity. In 1867 the US purchased Alaska from Russia for $7.2M, 2 cents an
acre in today's dollar. Russia was obviously desperate, or did not take the time
to understand and evaluate the full value of the land they were selling. Let's not
make the same mistake and act in desperation; without looking at the complete
economic value, including the value of open space to the public and the impact
of added congestion to the McCall area. How can we justify increasing the
benefit to one entity while devaluing an established gem like McCall? --Also, let's
get to basics. The limiting factor in any business deal is the management. No
matter how good a business idea is, it will never be properly implemented
without good management. The management and competency of the Trident
group is not transparent. Their webpage provides no detailed information about
the plan, the partners in the group, what they have accomplished in the past,
contact information or details on their leadership. How can simply pass along a
State gem to an entity that will not fully disclose or educate us so we can gain
confidence with, and trust their management capabilities?
148Jodi 297 Rio Vista If it costs the state of ID $276,000/yr to admin these endowment lands why isn’t
Guliuzza Blvd IDL exploring new ways to offset those costs or better yet, make ID a profit?
Think outside the box. With all the people coming here we need more
campgrounds, parking areas & snow parks. How about building dry cabins or
yurts to rent, similar to Burgdorf. Build another kids camp venue! This can be a
win-win situation. This could create jobs, save recreation in the area, AND fulfil
the obligation to the beneficiaries. We can recreate here AND make profits for
the endowment beneficiaries. Look at this land as a long term investment that
can create profits for many years to come, rather than a short sighted one time
payout.
If it’s the IDL’s job to make these lands profitable, why are they being
complacent? There are solutions besides selling out. Idaho’s politicians should
remember their job is to serve Idahoans and listen to what they want. This is no
place for backdoor buddy deals. Both sides of the political isle stand together on
IDAHOANS love for access to public lands. They don’t make land anymore. Once
it’s been parceled out and sold, it’s gone FOREVER. Please, don’t privatize Idaho.
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149Mark Idredneck@mWhat percentage of the land will be designated for public access? What will be
Dooley sn.com permitted through public access ie.... motor vehicles, snow mobile, off road use,
hiking trails.
Will there be any Gates within any part of the community for private residences?
Will Trident be paying for all infrastructure costs including roadways for the
development? This includes any upgrades to current municipal systems (water,
roadways to access the project site).
Will the streets in the development be private or public? Does the city have the
capacity and budget to provide snow plowing if they are public streets. Granted
it will develop over decades.
Where can we view a land use plan showing the proposed development.
I am strongly in favor of an overall development plan for the 28,000 acres. It’s
the details that will show its value. I know I am not alone in stating I am tired of
being locked out of property I have Recreated in while raising my kids. I
understand private property issues and while I don’t like what DF and others I
have done I can respect that. I would hate to see state land traded to a private
company and then have significant limits put on the use. I know there is a
balance in allowing the private development and public use and would hope a
mutual agreement oils be reached.
Thank You
Mark Dooley
258 Ernesto
McCall
208-573-4627
150Maura 400 McGinnis I think we should examine very carefully the premise that Alec Williams is
Goldstein St., McCall presenting to support the proposed land swap. Is he inventing the problem as
well as the solution? Do we really need to sacrifice our public lands, our drinking
water, and our local ecosystem to fund schools? There are certainly other ways
to fund education and there are also other values held in public lands beyond
what is represented in dollars.
In his letter, Williams strikes the same tone as Midas Gold and other exploitative
industries in the 21st century: "Trust me, I'm on your team, I have the same
concerns as you and have figured out a way to protect the environment and
make a small profit." This is insulting. It seems we are supposed to be convinced
by this argument and then ignore what he stands to gain and what we will lose.
Alec Williams is presenting himself as the savior, the developer antithesis of the
Wilks Brothers. We need to ask, are these truly our only options? Or is this savvy
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and opportunistic developer swoopingin to "save" us just when communities are
most vulnerable and least able to engage in public debate and democracy?
151David Burns P.O. Box 1351, My wife and I have lived in McCall for over 40 years and have come to rely on
200 lands managed by Idaho Department of Lands (IDL) more and more for hunting,
Washington
picking berries and gathering mushrooms as areas have been developed and
Street, McCall, closed to the public in areas like Boulder Creek, Red Ridge and along the North
ID 83638 Fork of the Payette River. I have harvested deer in almost the entire area
proposed for land exchange and we have picked berries there and gathered
mushrooms. Our activities are compatible with IDLs logging and even sometimes
enhanced. Our activities are incompatible with any development of residences.
Therefore, we are opposed to the proposed land exchange with Trident Holdings
et al.
I addition we would point out that local logging operators have been severly
impacted by the loss of local mills and the reduced harvest of trees on the
National Forests. Loss of local IDL resources would further damage local logging
jobs. Logging in distant northern Idaho would not support our local economy
here in McCall.
If IDL needs to increase revenue from local lands they might increase timber
harvest and charge fees for uses such as recreation on the lands that they
manage. We favour such local solutions rather than further erosion of people’s
ability to use IDL lands.
152Loren Dugan Aspen Ridge # Selling off the Public land around Payette lake will destroy the scenic beauty of
3. McCall, ID. the area, harm the fragile ecosystem, harm wildlife and fisheries and take public
land access from those who want to continue enjoying the unharmed beauty of
the McCall/Payette lake area.
153Shiloh Ryker 217 Colt Street Dear McCall city council members, I am Shiloh Ryker. Although I live in New
New Meadows, the business I own and my job are based in McCall. My family has
Meadows, continuously resided in Valley County since 1956. My roots here are deep, and
Idaho 83654 my love for the land even deeper. I am strongly opposed to this land deal with
Trident Holdings. Public land should be kept public at all costs. We have already
lost so many of the local recreational treasures we hold dear to the Wilkes
brothers. It would be a disgrace to further harm our children and grandchildren’s
inheritance of the earth by giving away more access to Payette Lake. So much of
Lake Cascade has public accessibility, and yet, McCall’s lake seems to be more
and more exclusively available to the wealthy. Those of us who make our homes
here deserve a legacy of access to public lands. I will not even begin a rebuke for
your poor timing (although shame on you for trying to make such a tremendous
deal with such a big impact during a GLOBAL PANDEMIC), but you should all take
pause and reassess what you’re doing. I know firsthand that governing a city isn’t
easy, but you have the ability to make good choices for posterity. Please do so.
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154Alex 309 Keeping lands in the public's ownership is the best option for the areas around
Dalgleish Edgewater McCall. Seeking to privatize much or all of the endowment lands would be
Circle McCall,
detrimental for so many reasons. I understand the State's obligation to seek the
ID 83638 maximum financial benefit from the lands . However, I strongly disagree that the
interested party, Trident Holdings, has the public's interest in mind with their
proposal. Keeping the land open and available to the people of Idaho is truly in
the best interest for the public. Idaho is growing at an unprecedented rate and I
believe more needs to be done to keep federal and state owned lands open to
the public. We are seeing more and more open space disappear every month
and McCall is part of this changing landscape. I believe keeping the roughly
28,000 acres under the ownership of the State (essentially the public) is truly the
best option for this land. Please consider the greatest good possible for the
McCall area over the next 100 years. Keeping this land open and undeveloped is
the greatest good. Although the Idaho Department of Lands property up for
consideration is not wilderness, I believe language from the wilderness act is very
fitting. "A wilderness, in contrast with those areas where man and his own works
dominate the landscape, is hereby recognized as an area where the earth and its
community of life are untrammeled by man, where man himself is a visitor who
does not remain". Please keep these areas untrammeled by man. McCall is
increasingly becoming more developed and the open space will become even
more important as time rolls forward. You cannot put a monetary figure on open
space and public land. Idaho is too great to litter, with more development from
an out of town private company. Thank you for your consideration.
155Ernie POB 518 I am adamantly opposed to this proposed public land transfer.
Revello McCall ID
Please do everything possible to stop it.
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156Zackery 909 Dearborn Please do not allow this exchange to pass. To do this would be a harsh change to
Vetos St Caldwell, ID the beauty of Payette Lake and surrounding areas that we Idahoans love to call
83605 home! My wife and I frequent the area for many recreational activities up to
McCall and Lake Payette. I am sure many other Idahoans would agree with me
in saying that to allow this public land to become sold in private portions would
be a terrible idea and would result in a harsh defacing of nature and all its beauty!
Thank you for your consideration.
157Clint 3220 clay ln Mr. Williams can put lipstick on this pig all he wants but, at the end of the day
Musgrove new meadows it’s still a pig. There is 120,000ish acres of Wilkes Brothers land for sale and they
are going after this piece??? Something is not adding up. This is shady from the
word go!
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158Ginger 162 Platt I think this land swap is a horrible idea, this land is public land and it should stay
Hughes Place, that way. Once it is traded or sold it will never be the same, access will never be
the same, don't fall for all of the promises being made by Trident. Once the land
Donnelly Id
83615 is gone it is gone forever. This particular land gets used a tremendous amount by
the public. If this land is gone then the only land accessible is the land on the
valley floor, which isn't anything. Please don't go for this land swap, it will ruin
the life as we know it here in McCall.
159Lukas 3343 W McCall and the Payette Lake Natural Wildlife area has incredible natural beauty,
Koenig Murano Court it is no wonder so many real-estate developers are tapping the community as a
#202 Boise, ID hot spot. To continue to sell tracks of land across the waterfront will only erode
83705 the gift nature has given to the area: the clear water, the clean air, the
spactacular views: all of which have been kept pristine for thousands of years,
taken care of thanks to the Native American communities who have since been
displaced. It is now your duty as the City Council to continue as caretakers of the
land and your community from further encroaching development. More
development will only mean more tourists, more pollution, more wealth stolen-
-both monetary and environmentally. These development companies do not see
McCall as the gift of nature it is, they see it as a community & land to be exploited
for corporate profit.
160Anonymous 416 Virginia In an already engrossing continuous mass of privatizing land in a community that
Anon Blvd thrives on public wealth and tourism, to privatize a massive chunk of land that
not only affects local residents but also the accrual of income that the city of
McCall depends on. Privatizing more land, benefits nobody except for the 1%
which contrary to popular opinion, does not make up the whole population of
McCall. Especially being as the piece of land in question is one that engulfs most
of McCalls tourism and local “hot spots“.
161Samson 711 Thompson Hello, I grew up in McCall, went to preschool at Ms. Jeanies, and graduated from
Large Ave McCall ID, MDHS in 2016. One of the best things about McCall is the access to public lands
83638 and the amount of public lands we are able to utilize for recreation. I've spent
countless hours driving around the lake in the summers and hiking around on
both sides of the road, using different spots to fish. Cliff jumping is a big passtime
of my friends and I. There is one set of cliffs in particular that happen to be on
private property, we would still go all the time but the owners who most likely
only are around 4 weekends of the year won't allow us to have fun anymore. If
that were to happen to all the land around the lake McCall would never be the
same again. Do you really want to see condos on every shore of Payette? Keep
the land free and public so that McCall kids can grow up using and learning about
the forests that surround them.
162Robyn 349 Carmen As a 25 yearresident of McCall, I concerned about any additional development
Armstrong Drive, McCall, around Payette Lake from a water quality perspective. This lake is a municipal
ID 83638 drinking water supply and has a limited capacity to buffer adverse environmental
effects from residential pollution. Please talk with our Public Works water
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experts. Public access to state and Federal lands is another important
consideration for local residents. My understanding from Alec Williams' letter to
the community is that 80% of the land would be in a conservation easement, but
the details are important to disclose as these protections can be misleading.
Please request that a reasonable time frame be realized to analyze all the
alternatives for these important 28,000 acres. The city's recommendation to the
State Land Board could be critical to a decision this month. Why rush such an
important, decision?
163Derk Brll 1500 Louisa It is my opinion that the proposed land swap that would leave one real estate
Avenue, company as the principal owner of such a large piece of land is in no way in the
McCall best interest of the City of McCall.
164Julia Welch918 Camas To Whom It May Concern:
Place
I believe that opening up 28,000 acres to be potentially developed would be,
very minimally put, a huge mistake. Not only would potential development of
said land drastically change the entire landscape of the lake, but would alter
McCall in significant ways as well. Having more developed land around the lake
would irreperarably and negatively impact the lake and its delicate ecosystem,
already inundated by leniently regulated motorized watercraft use, etc.
The potential effects of this would extend and contribute to the algification of
the lake, degradatino of water quality, erosion, and pose a threat to wildlife and
plants which depend on this area as vital habitat and connective corridor to
public land we proudly boast access to. It would also impact our drinking water.
It is tragic, but often demonstrated that people are unable to think objectively
about how our actions may trickle downand out to other organisms, but if
referenced in terms that we can individually connect to-every single one of us-
like drinking water, we may be more apt to think critically and pragmatically,
without being swept away by dollar signs.
I understand that McCall is a tourism-based economy, and that's personally how
I've been able to live here for the years that I have. However, as this past
weekend has demonstrated through traffic, litter, noise pollution, and lack of
service/internet, our town's infrastructure cannot and simply should not be
working to accrue additional second homeowners or development. We have
pretty much reached our carrying capacity, it seems, and allowing additional
development around the lake would only show that our city, meant to protect,
accurately represent, and celebrate our community, can be bought.
I feel grateful to live in McCall for so many reasons! Out of the 15+ places I've
lived over the past decade, this is the one I've come back to to cultivate my home,
my community. It feels good to know that the chance to share my ideas and
opinions is valued here, and our sense of kindness, generosity, and overall
community is so strong here, I wish only for that to grow even deeper in standing
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together against large development, and rather, working cooperatively to
enhance our place for the good of OUR community.
Thank you,
Julia Welch
P.S. I can't tell you how much I apreciate the mask ordinance being put infto
effect when it was...thank you for keeping our community safe!
165Jon Allen14076 Morell I am opposed to the proposed land sale/trade regarding the public land around
Rd, McCall, ID Payette Lake. It is a state treasure that should be maintained in it's natural state,
83638 available for all to access and enjoy.
166Katie 423 Colorado I am against the proposed 28,000 acre development/ land swap surrounding
Hudson st #4667 Payette Lake in Mccall, Idaho. It would be devastating to the local wildlife and
McCall, Idaho people’s way of life. Please make a record of this request.
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167Ryan 2250 S As a citizen of Idaho, and a user of the lands and waterways around McCall,
Carpenter Deborah Ave Idaho, I urge the City Council to keep the lands surrounding the city of McCall in
Boise, ID public hands. The economy of the city is largely based in tourism, including many
83709 people from the Boise area that spend weekends and vacation in the area. Buy
removing such a large portion of the public land in the area that is used for
recreation, the council would be removing the reasons that those tourists visit
the city.
I understand that the Idaho Department of Lands (IDL) is constitutionally
mandated to “secure the maximum long-term financial return” on it’s lands. A
one time sale of this land to private enterprise is not the the best way to secure
the maximum or long-term financial returns available.
The land could be integrated with Ponderosa State Park and access fees would
generate revenue perpetually. Access fees would be necessary for all of the
current recreation that takes place on these lands including hiking, camping,
mushroom picking, berry picking, fishing, boating, hunting, bird watching, and
others. This would open a huge revenue stream generated by this land.
Other revenue generation ideas could be: building rental cabins/yurts,
expanding the number of established campgrounds in the area, lottery hunting
opportunities (restricted to archery or short range weapons in areas of safety
concern), new hiking trails, and many more.
If this land is sold and developed, it would generate a one time shot in the arm
for the IDL but would hurt the community of McCall and Idaho as a whole. It
would cause a decrease in tourism which would hurt the local residents and
businesses. Likely the majority of Idahoans would be priced out of the area
making way for part time residents from other states. It would be wrong to
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deprive the average Idahoan of access to such a valuable, publicly owned
resource.
By keeping the land in public hands, revenue can be generated in perpetuity off
of the lands controlled by the IDL rather than a one time payment. This objective
much more closely matches the constitutional mandate of the IDL. Keeping the
lands public will also benefit the community of McCall through increased tourism
and the associated spending as well as preserving the birth right of all Idahoans
to access these beautiful and useful public lands.
Thank you for your consideration,
Ryan Carpenter
168Nicole 2238 Payette You never get back heritage lands when you turn them into McMansions or
Amundsen Drive, McCall housing developments. You do not get back wild lands, tall timber, ecosystems
ID 83638 for trout, salmon, etc. when you damage them. The Lands surrounding Payette
Lake should be preserved in perpetuity as protected land. ALL of the land that is
being discussed should be put into a preserve, it is what makes Payette Lake so
beautiful and its land so rich and pristine, and beautiful. This proposed swap out
for northern timber land is a boondoggle where the money will go to the
developers and the people and nature forever deprived of pristine wilderness
and a clean alpine lake, not yet spoiled by mining run off or industrial activity up
stream. The lands surround Payette Lake should be put into a Trust or Protected
land status. If the goal of the IDL is to get money to help Idaho schools and the
State, there are ways to do this that do not include land, road, and building
development on the utterly unique and natural beauty of Payette Lake. This land
should not be privatized, it should be for the public's enjoyment within the
careful confines and protections that are afforded other wild lands that Idaho
preserved and protected. Trident has already met with all of the IDL board
members in a very suspicious behind the scenes meeting, charming their way so
that they can get their mitts on priceless land that will make them gobs of money,
all while the public gets nothing, except to look from the lake, not at wilderness,
but at houses and lights, destroying forever this scenic knee-dropper of Payette
Lake. A proposed $2 million of timber they offer? That is nothing, nothing
compared to the value of this land. I utterly oppose any use of this land other
than transitioning it to park land. There is plenty of other land to build on, this
wilderness is like no other and it should remain that way, and preserved for
generations, just like in Wyoming, the Tetons, Yellowstone, or look to any other
great State that has preserved its natural wonders, like California's Yosemite,
thank god this was preserved, otherwise there might be a casino sitting on top
of Half Dome. Or take the Grand Canyon, there would be hotels that lined the
rim of that natural wonder. It takes forethought, dedication, vision, courage and
wisdom, to preserve precious lands. We cannot let this opportunity pass. We
cannot let one developer take away the enjoyment from hundreds of thousands.
In this time of COVID-19, now, more than ever, do we realize just how important
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having nature to go it is, just how restorative and inspiring and soul-fulfilling it is.
We must preserve the beautiful natural wonder of the lands that surround
Payette Lake for now and future generations.
169Daniel Link12530 W Lexus McCall Idaho has always been an amazing escape from Boise and the
Ct surrounding cities, offering unbelievable locations for outdoor activities! Selling
the Ponderosa Sate Park area located on Payette Lake would not only eliminate
tons of outdoor activities but it would increase the amount of in-state and out-
of-state visitors to an unprecedented amount, (it probably is said to increase the
success of local businesses which is good) but it may also lead to destruction of
the surrounding forests and an increase in pollution from the overwhelming
increase in population in the city of McCall. PRESERVE THE LAND AROUND THE
LAKE. It is one of the many beautiful aspects of McCall.
170April 18 Knob Hill I am very concerned about the proposed land swap orchestrated by Trident
Whitney Drive, McCall, Holdings. The endowment lands surrounding Payette Lake are a huge asset to
ID 83638 the local community and a key component of what makes McCall and Payette
Lake so special. Our community relies on that 'special' quality both for tourism
and also quality of life for our residents. Trident is trying to hastily convince the
public that their plan is the 'only way' to save these endowment lands, but the
public has not had a chance to research what is truly required of these
endowment lands and to come together to offer alternative solutions to the
alleged problem that they are not 'profitable enough'. I urge the Council to take
any steps it can to slow the process on this to give the citizens more time to
understand this complicated issue and to see what options might be available.
Could concerned citizens create a group that would pay for a long term
recreational lease on these lands? Swapping these irreplaceable natural spaces
for some nebulously profitable 'timberland' in another part of the state surely
isn't the only option? Please help slow this process so McCall doesn't turn into
just another tract of land for developers to ruin for profit.
171Trevor 606 Hayes st. I care deeply about the serenity, habitat, and ecosystems that surround Payette
Hattabaugh McCall Idaho Lake, and I believe they give the city of McCall value, both intrinsic and calculable.
83638 It would sadden me to see land that is so important to the community be sold
off to the highest bidder. It would also bring down the value of my property near
the lake, and it would bring countless problems that the current citizens would
have to deal with in the future. Please consider keeping Payette Lake natural.
Consider the current citizens needs.
172Wes Green446 Weir I oppose this land exchange for the people of Idaho. Not many large lakes in
Gulch Road, Idaho are left that are not surrounded by huge houses for the wealthy to buy and
Pinehurst, lock out the public. Keep it public and pristine.
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173Timothy 610 Lenora St. Dear McCall City Council,
NeuschwanUnit 2, McCall
I am writing to comment on the sale of 28,000 public acres to a private equity
der, MD ID 83638
group. My first comment is that the economic analysis that Trident Holdings
performed is extremely biased in their favor. Idaho State lands exist as an
endowment for the public schools. In other words, it's a financial asset that
appreciates and the schools use the investment income while keeping the
principal investment intact. The lands around McCall are extremely valuable and
are worth approximately 3-4x what the developer plans on paying for them.
Why would an endowment sell a rapidly appreciating asset at a cut-rate deal?
From a strictly financial point of view, it would make more sense to hold onto
these rapidly appreciating assets since their value in several years will be
significantly greater. Secondly, the value of these lands far exceeds the dollar
amount of timber on them. The developer can make all the claims he wants
regarding public use of the land, but we all know the orange signs will go up the
minute the ink is dry on the deal. Please vote no on selling public endowment
lands to this developer.
174Martin 623 Woodland I am an avid cyclist with Warren Wagon Road being one of my favorite routes.I
Verillo Rd. PO Box have been craving it of over 18 year. I have seen the traffic increase every year
4074 McCall, to the point that this weekend it was a race track most motorist traveling in
ID 83638 excess of 45 MPH. By allowing this swap to go through with the new
devleopment that will take place it will not only increase traffic but a pedestrian
or cyclist will be hit injured or even killed. Not to mention what it would do to
the wild and scenic splendor we all love.
175Zane Hardin 13864 The 28,000 acre land exchange around Payette lake would be a huge mistake for
WILLIAMS RD the city of McCall. These areas are the most scenic and accessible areas in the
MCCALL, ID city that attract a lot of people to the visit and spend money in McCall. McCall
83638 has 3 things that attract people, access to the outdoors, a ski resort and a lake.
Taking away public access to the lake and the surrounding woods may benefit
the city with tax dollars from large homes however I believe there are a lot of
bigger lessons to be learned from communities who followed this exact path. If
you want to ruin an honest, hard working, outdoor loving community and turn
McCall into one large resort for the wealthy then go ahead and sell the land.
There are many other ways to continue sustainably growing the city of McCall
and this is definitely not one of them.
176Catherine 1311 N 24th I do not support the trade of public lands around Payette Lake for private timber
Cunagin St, Boise, ID land. I just learned of the proposed land swap by Trident Holdings to acquire
83702 28,000 acres of land around Payette Lake. I value these public lands
tremendously. Much of our time is spent enjoying the hiking, biking, skiing and
kayaking in these proposed areas. This development would also affect hunting
and potentially water quality in Payette Lake. Please visit Gatlinburg, TN, Myrtle
Beach, SC, or a host of once beautiful natural areas that were developed beyond
recognition. The way that this issue was made public and the relative lack of
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information that is easily obtainable regarding this deal make it seem
underhanded and suspect. If the quoted $276K management cost yearly is an
issue for the city of McCall, please allow other options/solutions rather than
more development. These lands are priceless and once privatized, they are
gone. Please do not allow another Wilks Brothers type of situation without
thorough public input. It was devastating to people of this state to have access
closed for camping, hunting, biking, hiking, fishing, dirt bike/atv riding,
snowmobiling, skiing, and all other outdoor activities that we as Idahoans enjoy.
These lands are what makes our quality of life here in Idaho so appreciated. I
do not believe that the current deal will actually "preserve" Idaho. Development
is in stark contrast to preservation. Trident holdings is a FOR profit entity that
intends to sell our precious and valuable land for their financial benefits. To
claim otherwise and to try to pull the wool over the eyes of the citizens of Idaho
is disrespectful . As we drove through and camped in Idaho and Montana last
week, my husband and I commented that no place is quite like Idaho and the
immense opportunity for all kinds of outdoor recreation it allows/provides.
Please don't ruin that for easy money. Thanks for your consideration.
177Lindsey 2161 N They said it for me.
Truxel Montgomery
"NAWPA has identified six ways public lands help combat global warming: Public
Ave, Meridian
lands and the forests they protect help people and ecosystems respond and
, Idaho 83646
adapt by capturing and storing carbon. Public lands conserve biological diversity
and protect the “ecosystem services”—clean air and water—that mountains and
woodlands provide. They connect landscapes to provide migration corridors for
wildlife to shift their habitat as the climate warms. They provide the most intact
ecosystems against which scientists can measure change in a warming world.
And, the wonders of nature protected on public lands provide inspiration for
people who may be moved to take action on climate change."
My words:
Valley County is a very special place. The most important consideration is the
impact on the land to restore and thrive unencumbered by human impact. The
swap will forever change the fragile system unique to the area and will impact
the surroundings areas forever as well. This is not a "have to" situation. Nothing
is necessary in this swap, it's just a vision that really doesn't serve the BEST use
for the uniqueness of the land. You can't improve what's not broken, but you can
break what is perfect. Don't approve the swap.
178Ashley 118 E Park It would absolutely ruin McCall if this happened. The reason we live here is for
Marsh Street McCall the opportunity to recreate in our backyards. From a quick drive around the lake,
ID 83638 paddle boarding on the river above North Beach, Rock climbing at The Thinking
Spot, camping at Upper Payette, and I could go on. Have we learned nothing
from other big recreational hot spots like Lake Tahoe????? Everyone says we are
on track to be like that. If you ask anyone that lives here full time you would hear
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the same thing. That is not what we want!! I understand we will grow as the
population does but we all want this place to be accessible to us. We live here,
we love here, we recreate here. Don't take it away and don't listen to these false
promises. Look what happened when the Texans came in and bought everything.
It would totally ruin this place we call home. Please don't let this happen.
179Savilla Kiely PO Box 628, Please DO NOT hand over control of our local watershed and our community's
McCall, ID future to developers whose bottom line is profit.
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180Mary PO Box 1667, We need to know what the alternatives are. The Idaho Wildlife Federation has
JasionowskiMcCall, ID some input. Part of what makes McCall special is having so much preserved
83638 lakefront - how many places can brag about that? It's shortsighted to entrust it
to the NY developer who tries to reassure by calling us "folks." What local entities
are getting behind this and why?
181Ed Branson P.O. Box 1283 Leave the land how it is meant to be, for the public. There is already enough
Donnelly private landowners in the area. Pretty soon you wont be able to recreate around
Idaho McCall. We don't need anymore fancy lake front property homes. Keep it the
way it is please.
182Susan 917 Fairway I am deeply concerned about the proposed Payette Lake state land exchange and
McMillsn Dr, Unit 1B, the irreparable damage it will do to McCall and its environs. I encourage the
McCall Council to vigorously oppose the exchange.
183Tessa 7276 I strongly oppose the Payette Lake land exchange proposed by Trident LLC. There
Groves Lonesome are other ways to manage this land while still keeping it accessible to the public.
Wolf Way Star Selling it to a developer who “promises” to keep it the way it is, is simply foolish.
ID 83669 Native born Idahoans are seeing their state change dramatically every single day
with increased development. This needs to come to an end and we need to keep
Idaho beautiful and enjoyable to its residents. Enough farmland has been taken
over by developers, do not let our forests and lakes end up the same way
because of greed and ignorance.
184Aaron 14033 Nisula This would be tragedy for our town, our county and our state. There has to be
Harvey Rd. McCall, way for the IDL to recover budget shortfalls without selling out to big developers.
Idaho 83638 These lands are what make this such a special and desirable place to live and
vacation. This must be blocked. Say “No Thank Trident”!!!!
185John Hicks POB 1957 I oppose any exchange of land. We use these areas for multiple reasons and do
not feel comfortable with it becoming under private ownership. Keep our area
wild please.
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186Julia 1155 W Public land is extremely valuable; access to public land is one of the things that
HomaechevPaschal Lane can continue to set Idaho, and specifically McCall, apart as development and
arria Boise, Idaho land use change continues at a rapid pace across the west. The amount of
83702 tourism dollars that come to mccall for access to public land and outdoor
recreation is a huge part of the local economy. I urge you to keep as much land
public as possible and to value the undeveloped land for not only the value it
brings for those who come to recreate outdoors but also its value in the
ecosystem. Land use change is one of the biggest threats to animal habitat,
natural water filtration, and on a larger-scale emissions leading to carbon
change. It would be a mistake to privatize what is currently public land in mccall
or to allow land use change that hurts our local ecosystems.
187Nina Baker 2492 E. It would be terrible if this development were to go through. The impact would
Mariposa be horrendous for our roads, schools, etc. It would be a travesty to have McCall
Dr.,Eagle, ID turn into another Sun Valley.
188Mary Lou 176 Maki I am opposed to the proposed land exchange. I know that the State Board of
Rush Lane, McCall, Lands is bound to make the most income they can from state owned lands, but I
Idaho do not feel it would be in the best interest of the State or local residents for this
to go through. These are out of state developers who are painting a very rosy
picture. Open lands are too important to the quality of life we value here in
McCall and Valley County.
Thank you.
189Alana PO Box As a long time McCall resident I have had the opportunity to see how poorly the
Erickson 384/865 Shelia state handles the "endowments" - clear cutting, grazing, etc. All for the almighty
Lane, McCall, dollar. I strongly oppose selling these local parcels to a developer who will
ID 83638 continue the rampant over development of Valley County so that the state can
log yet more of the land that they are entrusted to take care of. Unless the
McCall/Valley County growth plans precludes the development of these parcels,
which to my knowledge they do not.
190Ronda 510 Notus While I understand the mandate to manage Idaho's public endowment lands in
Krasowski Road, Notus, the most profitable manner, I don't believe trading this beloved resource for
ID 83656 timber land is the only way to increase profit. I grew up enjoying this land with
my family. We were not financially able to own a vacation cabin, but the
protected public land allowed us to enjoy the McCall area, and consequently
inject money into the local economy, very frequently. We were consistent
campers at Ponderosa and even in the 1980's it was sometimes a challenge to
obtain a campsite; that has become increasingly the case. Could an expansion of
the State park both increase the profitability of the land, and the accessibility to
Idaho's families? Thank you, McCall, for being at the heart of so many of my most
precious memories, both in my childhood and in the childhood of my children
and now their children. I hope you will be able to at the center of Idaho's best
memories for generations to come.
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191Jeff Pugsley 314 Mountain I am strongly opposed to the Idaho Department of Lands proposed sale of land
Cove Court, around Payette Lake. This is land that makes the area around McCall unique and
McCall, ID wild, and selling it for development would permanently and negatively alter the
83638 character of the greater McCall region. I urge the city Council to strongly oppose
this land sale. Keep McCall wild and open for public access.
192Claire 2440 Sharlie Keep the lands surrounding Payette Lake and Little Payette Lake in public hands.
Ryberg Lane PO Box
86 McCall,
Idaho 83638
193Cole 8706 W The only thing to consider here is how fast we can give the rejection. Or does this
Chapman Dewitt Ct company plan on paying every Idahoan dollar for dollar for the profits they
Boise, ID receive from developing this land?
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No, you would be a fool to believe that.
I dont know about y'all, but the absolute worst thing for public lands is to
privatize them. This would be one of the largest mistakes in Idaho history, and
that's saying something. Again, you would be a fool to believe that.
I urge you, if you are an Idaho native, or moved here, DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.
You will spit in the face of Idaho native lands and people if you grant an outsider
(or anyone other than the public) one of our most valuable resources. Not to
mention the sustainable practice of logging timber which 66% of Idaho lands are
public.
The only thing this will do is provide sweet private property to people who can
afford it, which are not Idahoan's. If you even consider this, you should resign
effective immediately.
We don't need to sell any more of our public lands to out of state business
executives with no intention of benefiting the Idaho landscape nor community.
I'll restate, RESIGN EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY IF YOU THINK THIS EVEN REQUIRES
CONSIDERATION.
Now, do something to protect us, or RESIGN EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
194TJ Brady 336 Mather As a year round, full time McCall resident and worker bee that is struggling to
Road, McCall, just find an affordable home to purchase, I am firmly opposed to this attempted
ID 83638 land swap by Trident Holdings. We are so fortunate to be surrounded by such
magnificent landscapes with public access. It would be a shame to put the
almighty dollar first over our public area playground that makes McCall so
unique. Please, vote no. Thank you.
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195Kristin 1425 Clements This exchange should never happen. Land developers have not ever done things
Christensen Rd unit 13 in ways that are environmentally sensitive and planned manner for the benefit
McCall I’d of the public. Land development around the lake specifically would deteriorate
83638 the effects provided to our scenic area.
196Dale 15541 Orchard I am not in favor of the state putting the state land around Payette Lake into
Hamilton Ave, Caldwell private ownership. I would prefer it to remain in the public domain so the public
83607. can continue to access that open space for recreational purposes. Better yet,
Second home -
annex it all into the Ponderosa State Park. Being as Valley County has already
166 Ponderosa lost public access to 75,000 acres of Boise Cascade land bought up by the Wilkes
Ln, Cascade, ID Brothers, we don't need to increase the acreage of lost public access lands to
83611 over 100,000 acres by transferring this 28,000 acres to Trident LLC.
197Kelly 1679 Crescent Have there been studies done about the impact of how new residential and
FlanaganDrive, McCall commercial developments will tax the local infrastructure? Water/Sewer, trash,
Idaho 83638 electrical grid, wireless towers, etcetera. Is there a master plan In place w schools
and grocery stores? Are you thinking strip malls, for retail in these new areas?
Will it be limited to Mom and Pop or will this new area allow chains and big box
development?
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198Wendy Frick808 Aspen regarding you mask mandate: This is completely uncalled for and illegal. If you
look at the cases in Idaho they are up due to opening our cities. Employees are
alley
getting tested and these people are out and about.
The stats to date in Idaho are
Population 1,787,000 million!
Cases :8,000
Deaths 94 0.005% per capita
Recovered - 2,907 with 5,501 in recovery
New cases 0 !!!
Why are you mandating masks? And why for lords sake in public? This virus
doesn’t live in temps over 70 degrees and we are not spitting on each other.
This is a political statement by the city council and certain people working at st.
Lukes that are putting fear into people with no merit.
The elderly and sick should wear a mask or stay home. This is a very very small
percentage of people and you are punishing the local people, businesses and
tourists. We are responsible and don’t wish this on anyone but the fact is the
CDC just announced asymptomatic people do NOT spread the virus. The recovery
rate for people 45 and under is 100%! Science and fact.
So your research before you push people to insanity. You are torturing the young
with mask wearing. You know the facts about masks and oxygen depletion. Why
don’t you ask Mr. McCrystal to share those scientific facts instead of strong
arming you all into submission.
This is an illegal mandate. Unless it’s federally put into law you cannot enforce
it.
And why are you discussing police training and use of force ? Do you not have
faith in our police dept? Are you just following the media? Our police are
fabulous and have NEVER had an issue with force or any violation for that matter.
Keep it up and you will all be entangled in law suits. It’s time to vote smart and
get some non partisan city council members in this city or there won’t be a town
left.
199Brett 2684 S Grimes As an owner of a cabin located in Donnelly, we spend a great deal of time
recreating on Payette Lake, Cascade Lake, and the public lands in the local area.
Marcum Creek Pl,
I'm writing to voice my very strong opposition to the Payette Lake state land
Meridian ID
exchange being proposed by Trident. The value of these state lands cannot be
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measured in dollars alone. They provide immeasurable value to the local Valley
County community and the numerous vacationers that spend time enjoying the
McCall area and public lands around Payette Lake. In addition, many wildlife
species call these state lands home. Frankly, I don't trust any private company
to keep any promises of protecting these lands. What guarantees are there from
Trident? If they were not going to develop these lands, why are they so
interested in acquiring them? They are simply interested in these lands to
develop them and make millions of dollars all at the expense of the hoards of
people that currently enjoy these lands and put tremendous value in the use of
these state lands. I want my kids and my kid's kids to enjoy these state lands just
as I do today. It would be a true tragedy if the McCall City Council approves this
land swap!
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200Wendy Frick808 Aspen "I see a whole lot of this: 'People who don't wear masks are selfish and putting
alley everyone else in danger.'
Just no. Stop.
Do you know what's selfish? Passing off responsibility for YOUR health to
everyone else around you. It doesn't work that way.
YOUR health is YOUR responsibility. MY health is MINE.
Trust me, you don't want ME in charge of your health because I'll swoop in and
toss out all your junk food, processed crap, alcohol, & cigs, fill your fridge with
fruits and veggies, force you to drink water, take quality supplements, exercise
daily, and get plenty of sleep.
Oh, what's that? You don't want to be told what to eat, drink, take, do, etc? Well,
if the way you're living promotes poor health and a depleted immune system
that isn't functioning at its best, then you don't get to make a single health
decision for me.
So, stay in your lane, You do you, and I'll do me!!!
My Body My Choice” Right?
201Wendy 147 Sue Dr. I am against the proposed Payette Lake state land exchange
Marshall McCall, ID
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202David 147 Sue Dr. I am very much against the proposed Payette Lake state land exchange
Marshall McCall, ID
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203Dakota 162 Platt Place The land that is trying to be sold is used by thousands of people for recreational
Hughes Donnelly use and selling this land would do extreme harm to the community. It is one of
Idaho the only places we can go, since all the other land in McCall was sold to the
texans. I’ve lived in the McCall area my entire life and have used that area
countless times, the person buying it wants nothing to do with the community.
He doesn’t want to help the community and don’t let him fool you. He doesn’t
care about locals and he didn’t know that the land was used for recreational use
already. He doesn’t live here and selling that land would be the biggest mistake.
204Pamela 198 Nisula When my kids were little, we had our choice of three or four beaches, on
Davis Place PO Box beautiful Payette Lake, which is over 5000 acres. The loss of public access was
26 McCall, ID strongly felt by the working public, as every nook and cranny filled up with
83638 second and third homes. I was so grateful that the State had the foresight to set
aside Ponderosa State Park. It is a magical place, where beaches, hiking trails,
biking trails, huckleberries and mushrooms kept us busy in the spring, summer
and fall. The winter ski trails put McCall on the world map as a Nordic skiing
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destination. I would like to see the same foresight and dedication applied to the
property in the proposed land swap.
McCall a great place to visit, live, raise a family and retire. "Work hard play hard"
is the state motto and no where is it more applicable than McCall. Swimming,
paddle boarding, hunting, fishing, kayaking, canoeing, hiking, mountain biking,
skiing, running, horseback riding- we love it all and so do a huge number of
people who live here and who visit this area annually. We don't need less public
access, we need more bike paths, more hiking trails, and more access to the lake
and the forests.
It will take some work, but we must learn to define the value this space holds for
the all of the people who recreate here and we must protect it from short term
profits for a few that translate into long term losses for so many. These have
been public lands for generations and should remain that way.
The State lands have a greater intrinsic value to the community and the local
economy than anyone realized or formalized in a long term plan. Let's find a way
to support "indoor education" (public education) AND the tremendous learning
and skill building that take place out of doors, for life long learners of all ages.
The outdoor spaces are the best heritage we can leave for future generations,
young and old alike. Dedication, persistence and hard work led to the creation
of Ponderosa State Park. We have the opportunity to have an even greater
impact now. Let's think this through, and find a way.
205Richard PO Box 294 I am opposed to the proposed land swap between Trident and IDL. The 28,000
Holm Sr McCall, Idaho acres of state land here in Valley County should be preserved for public
83638 recreation not a development with promises of easements, ETC. The annual
Residence $270,000 increase in return from timber sale properties referenced in Trident's
2167 Lake presentation doesn't seem material against how these lands are currently being
View Avenue used. Perhaps the restructuring of how our schools are funded statewide may be
McCall, Idaho more appropriate. Lets not allow a developer to forever negatively impact our
community and those that visit and recreate here. Thank you for asking for public
input.
206Thomas and 939 Flynn RE: Trident Holdings, LLC Land Exchange proposal presented 7-9-2020
Edith Welty Lane; McCall,
We are concerned about the proposal that Trident Holdings LLC will present to
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the McCall City Council at their July 9, 2020 meeting. This proposal is
summarized in the June 16, 2020 Star News and in the extensive information that
the company sent to residents in McCall and elsewhere. It needs much more
investigation to determine whether it complies with the constitutional
requirements that State Endowment lands be used to generate as much revenue
as possible for the nine beneficiary organizations that are designated. In
addition, we support the petition that has been circulated by the Idaho Wildlife
Federation that asks the State of Idaho Land Board to engage the McCall City
Council and Chamber of Commerce, Valley County Commissioners, state
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senators and representatives, and any interested stakeholders to explore other
options to permanently keep this state land parcel in public hands. If this land is
exchanged with land acquired by Trident Holdings, LLC, the land would be
parceled, subdivided, developed, and gated benefitting only the highest bidders
at the expense of every Idahoan.
We have learned that the Idaho Department of Lands has been asked by the Land
Board to suspend all leases, sales and exchanges of State Endowment lands
around McCall until a thorough independent analysis can be done by the IDL to
determine what would bring the best, long-term return to the endowment
beneficiaries. We encourage the Council to work directly with the IDL to ensure
that the concerns of the McCall residents are conveyed to IDL and that innovative
solutions are explored to maximize public access and conservation of these lands
for future generations.
207Kelly 231 Alta Vista Please protect our state lands for future generations. The land around McCall is
O'Connell Dr. McCall, special and should be set aside for all to use. This land is a gift as people enjoy
Idaho recreating, gathering food, and enjoying nature. It is what makes living in Long
Valley so special. We are all aware of what happens when land is bought by
private individuals....gates are put up, no trespassing signs are posted, and access
to the backcountry is cut off. Please do the right thing and preserve the land for
everyone to use.
208Wayne 403 N Samson Trident Holding Proposed Land Swap. This proposal should not even be
Hersel Trail; McCall, considered and needs to be denied. I am opposed to it for two reasons. 1: There
Idaho 83638 is very little public open space lands available within and around the McCall area.
I don't believe Trident Holding would maintain public access in the future if they
were to obtain the land. Almost all developers that claim they are going to do
that is an upfront promise and then they do what they want to paid their pocket
book. 2: One of the proposed land parcels is within about 200 feet from my front
door. I'm sure it would not be kept as open land for the public and would be
developed into high density housing which would increase traffic in our area
drastically. Right now many locals use that property daily because there are few
other places in the city that they can go.
I'm not sure why most public servants within the city, county, and state want
increased growth. They seem to think that more people equate to more dollars
in their programs. I worked for nearly 39 years for the US Forest Service and saw
first hand that a larger work force did not equate to more work getting done but
more need for larger budgets (more $$$$) to administer the program. The same
is true within a city or county. With increased growth there is a greater need for
affordable housing for workers and residents. Also greater need for shopping,
updating of roads and infrastructure (not always adequately paid by developers
for long enough into the future), too many people for the area - we are already
there.
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In closing, please think of the residents that already live here and try to enjoy the
area even if it's mot the same area it was when I moved here in 1973. Then it
was a logging community and then becam
e a tourist destination when the
sawmill closed. We didn't have much say on what happened then to get us to
this point but don't let another Texas Land owner or Tamarack development
happen in and around McCall.
209Phillip 1301 S I have a property in McCall and I strongly oppose this land exchange proposal by
Hayenga Boydstun St, the State of Idaho. This will undoubtedly lead to over development along Payette
McCall, ID Lake which in turn will change the look and feel of McCall in a negative way.
83638 There is also a strong likelihood of a negative effect on the surround environment
and wildlife as well. McCall and Payette Lake have been successful so far because
of their resistance to over development. The State of Idaho needs to find another
way to make up any budget shortfalls and not sacrifice the beauty of our state.
210Kelly Clark441 Krahn July 7, 2020
Lane. P.O.
Re: Proposed McCall Land Swap
Box 1832
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Concerning the proposed land swap between the State of Idaho and Trident
Holdings. Idaho is NOT for sale. Certain properties should be appraised on values
other than board foot of lumber or mineral rights. The value of this property is
in the immediate access to recreational activities, hiking, fishing, hunting, berry
picking, etc. People come to McCall and spend their money here while recreating
in the area of this proposed land swap. They do not come to McCall to stand at
a property boundary and stare up at the McMansions of the rich. The last thing
this area needs is more huge, unsustainable homes displacing the native plants
and animals. The last thing Payette Lake needs is a build-up of nitrogen and
phosphates washed down from the extensive landscaping around those very
same homes.
Trident Holdings is spending a lot of money to white-wash this land swap. It is a
land grab and Idaho is the loser.
Kelly Clark
441 Krahn Lane
P.O. Box 1832
McCall, ID 83638
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211Matt Phillips duexemp@gmPlease consider the consequences of any action that would permit the further
ail.com development of the Payette Lake shoreline. Payette Lake is an Idaho community
treasure. Loved for the scenery and recreation. While not pristine, those who
enjoy it’s clear waters most enjoy those undeveloped forested shores that are
foreground to the mountains beyond. If the shoreline is parceled off, sold and
developed, the allure of this state gem, treasured by many, will be lost forever!
I support the State land boards mission, but the value of the shoreline
undeveloped to those that cherish the lake far, far exceeds and short term
financial gain that lot sales would provide. Please vote to save the shoreline of
Payette Lake for the future!
212Kristina 2684 S Grimes I would like to encourage you to DENY the land swap of 28k acres of state land
Marcum Creek Place surrounding Payette Lake and Little Payette Lake. Idaho state lands should be
kept in the public's hands to enjoy for generations. A land swap into private
ownership would be a tragedy. Look at what the Wilks Brothers have done with
private land.....blocking roads and putting up no trespassing signs and spraying
trees orange. There is no guarantee what would happen if the land becomes
private. No amount of money is worth the loss of this resource to the Idaho
people. Please listen to the people of Idaho and NOT the money.
213Katie Eiden 2637 N Please do not approve the land deal with Alec Williams and Trident Holdings for
Maywood Pl The Preserve McCall project. This is nothing more than private entities wanting
83704 to get richer and destroy the way of life and recreational activities in the area.
214Ryon 245 Buckcamp I am completely against the 28,000 acreland exchange in the McCall Payette lake
Reginato rd McCall id area. Public land should never become private land!!
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215Christian 2424 Sharlie A large New York investment firm is attempting to exchange unspecified
Zimmerman Lane, McCall timberland for McCall Real Estate. I hope these individuals are vetted properly
Idaho 83638 and all intentions are made clear. Another marina or oversized voluminous
docking situation like the one in Wagon Wheel/Sylvan Beaches has already
doubled in size and capacity. Whomever or Whatever governing body oversees
this repeating experiment of 'expansion without prejudice' may want to consider
the leverage and unfettered control that is bestowed upon out of state interests.
Thank you.
216Miles 13946 Nisula This is regarding the IDL land swap. I am 100% opposed to selling this precious
Mohler rd. parcel of publicly accessible land. As a McCall native, I have accessed and enjoyed
every corner of the land which is in danger of being bartered away. As time goes
on, I have seen more and more private property signs and locked gates in this
county. The thought of losing this land that we all share and love makes me sick
to my stomach. It is the last great piece we have left. It is imperative that we
change the minds of money driven IDL directors or the magic of our small town
will be forever lost.
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217James 8609 West Please consider the impact of privatizing the shoreline of both lakes. Pollution of
Thiffault Donnybrook all kinds including noise and sight along with the other more recognized types
Dr. Boise ID can easily make what is a pair of gems in the gem state into overdeveloped and
83709 run-of-the-mill tourist traps.
218April York3536 S This is detrimental to the community of McCall and will forever change this
Centennial natural playground that so many enjoy. I urge all involved to think beyond the
Way financial gain and to what this swap could do to one of Idaho’s beloved natural
habitats.
219Kristin Burns 2710 S Don't do the Trident deal. McCall needs these lands - they are why people move
Roosevelt St, to McCall and, more importantly, why they stay in McCall year-round as
Boise 83705 teachers, nurses, cooks, rangers, and business owners.
As more and more of McCall is claimed by tourists and part-time residents, it's
critical to retain spaces like these for the folks who sustain the city and greater
Valley County.
220Christina PO Box 35, I have lived in McCall for my entire life and have enjoyed the surrounding public
Roberts McCall, ID lands for a variety of reasons. As years pass, I see more and more public lands
83638 being sold. I fear that the Valley County area will become mostly private
developed land, thus, changing recreation and tourism permanently. The land
sale to the Texas brothers has been detrimental enough to the area. Selling the
land around the Payette Lake would be devastating to locals and tourists alike.
The potential buyer has said he wants to develop the land, but tries to
“sugarcoat” this by saying he wants to preserve public access. We cannot believe
this. Once this land is in the hands of a private owner, there is no way to
guarantee access to our beloved lands.
This is such a pivotal time for McCall. I strongly urge those involved in this
decision to consider the permanent devastating effects that this sale would have
on the local economy.
How would the town of McCall support increased development?
How would this affect the water supply/quality in McCall?
How much would our tourist industry suffer with so little access to public lands
around the area?
These are only a few of the many things to consider in this decision.
For the sake of preserving this area, we must not allow this sale to be approved.
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221Daniel Burns6583 W I am a 40 year old Idaho resident who was born and raised in McCall. I currently
Dufferin Ct, live in Boise, but I visit my parents, who still reside in McCall, and recreate in the
Boise, ID McCall area on a regular basis. I use
public lands to hike, camp, pick
83714 huckleberries, fish, and hunt for mushrooms. These activities on public lands in
McCall have been an important part of my entire life. Many of the lands I
enjoyed as a child have already been lost to private development. I am saddened
every time another parcel of public land is privatized and closed.
While McCall has a long history with the timber industry and much of the recent
talk of land valuation focuses on the value of the timber on public lands, tourism
and outdoor recreation now drive the economy of McCall. Visitors choose to go
to McCall, Payette Lake, and the surrounding area because of its natural beauty
and its wild nature. Payette Lake is one of the most beautiful places in the world.
This undeveloped beauty is what makes McCall special and desirable as a
destination. Key to this beauty is the absence of buildings around much of the
shoreline of Payette Lake.
Further real estate development of the public lands to be privatized by the
Trident proposal will diminish the wild nature of McCall. The proposal is in direct
conflict with what makes the area special and is against the best interest of both
residents and visitors.
In interviews with the media and in statements, representatives from Trident
have made several claims. I want to comment regarding some of these claims.
They claim that real estate development around the lake will provide affordable
housing for low income residents. The statements made in television interviews
left the means of achieving this claim open to interpretation. The most logical
interpretation is that increased tax revenue from the development of the lands
could be used by local governments to provide affordable housing. However,
this claim assumes sufficient increased tax revenue and future government
involvement. Neither of which is a certainty. Furthermore, in order to gain
sufficient tax revenue, the developments would need to be extensive. Extensive
development is at odds with other claims being made, namely that land will be
preserved as wild.
They claim that the current land is costing the state money. One example of how
this public land costs the state money is the Idaho Fish and Game enforcing
hunting and fishing regulations. However, Trident claims that public access to
the lands will persist. In other words, hunting and fishing activities, and the
necessary costs associated with regulation enforcement, would continue. Also,
there are a limited number of primitive roads that provide access to these lands.
These roads are currently not maintained in the winter. If homes are built off
these roads, then the roads would have to be maintained in the winter, costing
local governments. If the state wants to generate revenue from these lands,
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then the goal is achievable through timber sales and vehicle access fees, for
example fees for a park or recreation area. Furthermore, even if the traded
timber land in northern Idaho could provide the state with more value, that value
would not directly benefit residents and visitors of McCall.
They claim that land will be preserved. This is at odds with the purpose of a real
estate development company. At the same time, they admit that development
will happen. It is safe to assume that the development will most likely
concentrate on desirable lakefront and riverfront property, which will change
the character of the area and inherently block access to the water. They also
admit that parcels of land will be sold. Control would be lost after sale.
They claim that access will be preserved. However, there is no guarantee,
especially if the land is sold piecemeal to third parties.
The public lands should be preserved as wild and should remain accessible.
222Kevin 405 FloydeI would like to acknowledge the difficult decision that was made last week to
Studley Street, McCall, mandate the use of face coverings in the City of McCall. I know this decision was
ID, 83638 not made lightly and I would like to share my gratitude for this mandate that will
help protect our community. I am interested in hearing from our local law
enforcement about their use of force policies and de-escalation practices. Thank
you for bringing this item on the agenda for discussion.
I also would like to acknowledge Liliana Espinosa, the young woman that
appeared in the Star News a few weeks ago. She attended a local Black Lives
Matter demonstration in opposition to racism and violence. After the
demonstration ceased she stood on the sidewalk for nearly two hours by herself.
She received harassment from multiple diesel truck drivers circling the block to
roll coal on her while the people in the vehicle videoed their actions and laughed
at her. People like Liliana have a constitutional right to assemble and express
their opinion in public. I urge the McCall Police Department and the City of
McCall to condemn these acts of bullying and aggression.
I feel that this is an important opportunity to ask City Council members to
consider a community measure that would ban the act of rolling coal. This
childish act benefits no one. Rolling coal pollutes the air, the water, and is used
as a bullying tactic in instances such as with Liliana. Many other states have
passed legislation banning coal rolling, as it is a violation of the Clean Air Act.
People come from all over the country to visit McCall for it’s clean air and clean
water. We have a responsibility to protect the air, the water, and our local
citizens from harassment.
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223Shari 10272 W I am proud to say that I was born and raised in McCall. I have spent my entire life
Babbitt Arnold Rd enjoying the amazing land all around McCall. My father was an educator at the
Boise ID elementary school for almost 40 years and my mother worked as a lunch lady at
the schools until she retired. They live in the same house out on Heinrich Lane,
still. Our family has over 50 years of hiking and camping in the mountains,
swimming in the lakes, fishing, picking mushrooms in the spring, and picking
huckleberries in the summer. Of course, that does not include the years my
father would come with his parents and spend summers camping along Payette
Lake, when he was just a boy. I have raised my four boys doing the very same
things that I did growing up there as well. That is now 4 generations of our family
recreating and living our lives in McCall! We have seen other types of land deals
similar to this before. Now we drive up mountain roads and see locked gates and
no trespassing signs posted all over the hills. Do we really want this to happen
again? On the news the other night, I watched the Trident representative seem
almost irritated that people are not embracing this and almost like we should be
grateful for this. He was giving pitiful justifications for this deal and none that
made any sense to me. Did he grow up in McCall? This is not a real-estate
company wanting to purchase privately owned land. This is Public land! Please
do not allow this to happen! Don’t let a company not even from McCall make
decisions about what is best for McCall. It breaks my heart.
224Michael 7030 It would be a shame to lose more public land for the sake of needless
Griffith McGlochlin St. development. Recreation is what McCall is built on and that shouldn't change to
Boise, Idaho build more housing or line developers pockets. Idaho's greatest resource is its
83709 public lands, let's keep it that way!
225Matthew matthew.basy1.Article IX, Section 8 of the Idaho Constitution mandates that state endowment
Basye e@gmail.com trust lands are to be managed to secure the maximum long-term financial return
to the endowment beneficiaries. Manage by definition does not constitute
"SELLING/TRADING" of State endowment lands. Trading Endowment Lands is
literally the opposite of managing it and seems to be in violation of the Idaho
Constitution.
2.The city of McCall has been built around recreation and access to forests lands.
If this land is sold and becomes private, the Public will lose many of the primary
access points to the National Forests, and will cause congestion in the few
remaining access corridors. The vastness and the ability to recreate with minimal
congestion is what makes McCall and Valley County desirable and different from
Tahoe and Park City. If this land is sold, the lack of access will negatively impact
the local economy and depreciate the property values. What good is a beautiful
area if it doesn't have the ability to sustain itself because the major source of
commerce is no longer available due to a land trade. This seems like a situation
of Inverse Condemnation by the State of Idaho to the property owners. This is
especially true for the property Owners that directly border the property being
disputed. One day they have the ability to Market their Property as "Bordering
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Public Lands" and the next day they cannot. Has the IDL and Trident Holdings
factored the required "just compensation" for impacted property owners into
their cost analysis?
3.The Public School Fund contribution from Endowment land accounts for only
3.7% of the total Public School Fund and the 28,000 Acres being discussed would
be responsible for less than 1.4% of the total 3.7% (Responsible for ~$519,000
Proportionately). It seems disingenuous to suggest that selling this land is in the
best interest of the Public Schools when boosting commerce in the local
economy will yield the largest contribution to the schools. 49.3% (Just under $1B)
of the Public School Fund is generated through State funding compared to the
3.7% generated by Endowment lands. The more that the ability for recreation is
maintained, the more money our businesses and residents will make, which
directly increases the money being generated for the Public Schools. It seems
that the revenue from recreation is sustainable; whereas, the trees will inevitably
be logged and then the State is left with bare; non desirable land that isn't in
close enough proximity for the majority of Idaho's population to enjoy on a
regular basis (IE: Treasure Valley and Southern Idaho).
4. What is the valuation of both of the subject properties? I am making the
assumption that the land around Payette Lake is far more valuable with regards
to the bare land and thus has more liquidity. Is Trident Holding going to provide
bonding that guarantees that the state gets the value for timber that they stated
in their investigation? What about insurance against fire or incidents? Is the
Payette Lake property going to be used as collateral in the event that the timber
sales are not as beneficial as estimated? What systems does the the State have
in place to ensure that this is a mutually beneficial trade, that isn't going to hurt
the State financially? What State Employee will be held responsible if we lose our
desirable public land and don't get the returns that were promised?
5. The City of McCall and the rest of Valley County should be afforded the
opportunity to vote on this and potentially implement a local tax to keep this as
Public Land before it is traded to a Private Entity in a backdoor deal. Why is this
being put in place during a worldwide pandemic! Any local and state elected
officials that have been working on this behind the distractions of Covid19 should
be ashamed of themselves and are not doing what is in the best interest to their
constituents or the great State of Idaho.
226Stephanie 514 N I have loved visiting McCall and the Ponderous state park so much that we
Alexander Vandries Way, decided to purchase our own piece of property here. McCall has long since been
Eagle ID 83616 s place for travelers to find respite from the busy hustle and bustle, and enjoy
the peace and quiet of natures landscape. Please protect the public lands in
McCall!! Let us continue to preserve the beauty and the calming environment
we have been blessed with in McCall.
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227Tom Fischer 1106 Davis St I do not think the land swap is in the best interest for the state and feel Trident
McCall ID Holdings will just fleece the land and community and move on to the next deal.
83638 I do not think Trident Holdings has the communities best interest in mind plus
the ability to recreate on the lands would not be available as well several
businesses would not be able to continue doing business as there leases would
go away. I feel Trident Holdings is a similar situation to the Wilk's and will lock up
our lands so they will not be used for recreation. Please tell Trident Holdings to
look else where for there next opportunity or the voting public will speak at the
polls to ensure the city council works for the people.
228Rebecca 1504 Louisa, We hear you’re going to be discussing the proposed land swap tomorrow night
HauderMcCall, ID at the City Council meeting. We are very concerned about the speed with which
83638 this gigantic private/government land deal has hit the news and seems to be fast
tracking. What are we missing here? Please try to slow the process down and
give the public a chance to learn about this private equity company (with mostly
out of state investors), their intentions. the long-term implication and the
finances.
Thanks!
Rebecca and Larry Hauder, McCall
229Kristine 1110 Elo Rd., Please say NO to the proposed Trident Holdings. Save our public access lands for
Hopkins McCall, Idaho today and for the future. Economic reasons for disposing of this land are not even
worthy of consideration. As a native Idahoan, I understand the value of access to
public lands that feed and heal the hearts and souls of our very beings. Do not
take that away from us for money.
230Troy Jones 12294 W Please keep important public access to Payette Lake public. The land swap is a
Pinewood money grab by the state and developers while the people of this state lose more
River Ln outdoor opportunities on an already overcrowded area. I am opposed to this
proposal.
231Tyree Sibert 1401 Darrah I'm a second generation Idahohoan that has experienced Idaho mountain towns
Dr., Meridian, from a young age by my parents taking my sisters and I camping throughout
ID 83646 central Idaho. Over the last 30-years I have seen not only witnessed the Boise
valley but mountain towns such as Cascade, McCall and now even Stanley change
due to growth and greed. Our pristine..or once pristine mountain lakes, vistas,
plentiful camping, fishing, hiking and laid back way of life are at jeopardy due to
this scourge. It would be a huge mistake to allow this developement to happen.
We need to protect our water and lands for future generations and not for
immediate lining of the pockets of a few individuals.
232Barry 1110 elo rd This is not a good exchange for all of idaho.
hopkins mccall,id
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233Tracy 14 Logans We moved to McCall, Idaho from the East Coast in 2015 and lived there for
Pekurny Way , Sterling almost 4 years. I remember seeing it for the first time and thinking there is
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nothing to think about deciding to move here. My husband took the
management position at St. Luke's Hospital and living in McCall was the best
decision we had ever made. I can remember feeling like you could have your own
little piece of Idaho whenever we'd venture out. Use of the land felt so freeing
and peaceful, minimal crowds and a connection to nature unsurpassed is
considered a rarity. This became our therapy! When I heard of the proposed
changes that could come, I knew we had to get involved. Idaho is a big piece of
our heart and story and we simply cannot remain silent even though for now we
reside elsewhere. We continue to look for possible ways to relocate back. Our
daughter remained in Idaho, went to college in Boise, all because of her love for
McCall and the surrounding areas that just felt like home. The proposed changes
would certainly increase revenue for the state but I fear the town itself could not
handle the stress that surely will afflict it. Living there, I know first hand the
limited resources, lacking infrastructure, limited hospital services/capacity and
ability to handle large volumes of people for sustained amounts of time. With
the increase demand for services it would only expose with greater clarity the
already concerning lack of consistent workforce available. Due to lack of housing
for that workforce, extremely limited long term rentals and affordable housing,
you begin to create an even more severe issue than is presently the case. There
is also a concern of these changes impacting the quality of life for full time
residents of McCall that have come to prize and enjoy this small mountain town
- severely limiting their use of the land they know and love. One thing is true for
those that live there full time is a great deal of pride and respect for the land and
its precious gift to them to enjoy. With that respect comes a personal ownership
of sorts to keep it clean and cared for. Allowing these changes may greatly impact
the health and quality of pristine Payette Lake due to overuse, littering and its
impact on the land and wildlife. Large crowds with little respect to a place like
McCall could produce irrevocable consequences over the long term. One thing
we greatly respected about Idaho was its aim to preserve and protect wilderness
with access to it in a sustainable way that does not compromise the availability
of those resources for future generations. Think Frank Church Wilderness -
access without compromise, no National Parks for the same reasons. It is with
an optimistic hope that many will rise in behalf of a land and wildlife that has no
voice without the people to speak for it and dutifully protect it. It is my hope that
progress can happen without compromising your most valuable asset and it is up
to you to determine what that asset is. Thank you.
234William 1029 Fireweed Don’t sell public land on the Payette lake. It’s short sighted and irreversible.
Coman Dr McCall, ID
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235Halley Shultz 805 Lick Creek I am writing in regard to the proposed land swap by Trident Holdings -I hope
Rd, McCall that the council does everything that they can to prevent this land grab from
happening. The natural forest land along Payette Lake and the surrounding area
is what makes McCall so special and it should be preserved for generations to
come. Giving that land to a developer is not the right solution for our
endowments or for the people of Idaho. I will do everything in my power to stop
this bad deal from happening and I hope that the council does the same.
Thank you!
236Nick Nettles 9352 W My family and I spend thousands of dollars in the city of McCall each year while
Avalanche Dr vacationing and using public lands. This land swap with Trident is absolutely
Boise, Idaho terrible. Look what happens even down in Boise when an easement is given and
a new owner occupies the property. I’ve seen it firsthand here in Boise where a
new property owner has taken it upon himself to cover up a trail to public access.
Enforcement isn’t there because there aren’t enough resources. Valley County
and McCall police are already busy-who’s going to police the public access and
right of way that Trident has promised? Trident may promise access but the
homeowner that buys the house may not.
237Robert 121 Whitefoot The State lands that surround McCall help make it the wonderful mountain town
Barrow Ln, McCall Id, that it is. Our future generations deserve to enjoy the same McCall we have all
83638 enjoyed. Please do all you can to help protect our public lands and keep the
inevitable development at bay for as long as possible. Private development
companies will never have our best interest at heart. Their goal is to make money
nothing more nothing less. Please do everything in your power to keep public
lands public. Thankyou
238Megan 25150 I am not a resident of this community, however, I am a very frequent recreational
Painter Applewood user in this area and specifically to the public lands which have been proposed
Rd. Wilder, ID for this land swap with Trident LLC and IDL. I take issue with this land trade in a
83676 few ways.
First, allowing the buying party to place their own valuation on the land in
question is ridiculous. Even if the true intention of this trade is to maximize
financial benefit to the state endowment and educational funds, why would the
state want to accept the valuation from an obviously biased party rather than a
third-party entity. This is equivalent to a home owner allowing a perspective
buyer to tell them the value of their home rather than home appraisers, realtors,
market analysts etc. The valuation that has been placed on the property north
of Payette Lake is atrociously undervalued, at best. You need no experience in
land valuation or development to know that this property is worth a considerably
more than Trident LLC proposed. On this basis alone, this proposal should be
dead in the water as obviously the state is not getting the correct valuation or
value in swapped lands in this deal.
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Secondly, this land swap is merely one of many that has been proposed,
implemented and completed recently in not only this state but this county
specifically. You don't have to look far to see the negative impacts these land
deals have had on public interest and public access. In fact just a few miles south,
land was sold into private interest, with all the assurance that public access
would be maintained. However, this has not been the case. Gates have been
erected barring access to public roads and easements, and in fact privatized and
armed security now patrols said areas having frequent and potentially dire
interactions with the public. Another recent news worthy event occurred near
the Sawtooth National Recreation area in just the past two weeks. Two brothers
who had traded and bought land which was previously public land, and who
knew ful
l well when they purchased the property that a trail easement with the
USFS would be maintained through their property, harassed and threatened
USFS trail personnel with a helicopter hovering over them for reportedly more
than an hour in an attempt to stop or slow trail building and maintenance. These
landowners are now lobbying for and trying to get the taxpayers and counties to
build a new trail outside their property and to close the trail access to the public.
You cannot tell me the cost of that was factored into the original land deal, or
that it is not a financial burden to the local community. Forgive us, those of us
who value our sacred public lands, for not trusting the "good old word" of private
interest and development groups that they will maintain or protect public access.
That precedent has not been set. In fact, I would go so far as to say as far as
precedent goes: IDL, Idaho legislators, and local community leadership has failed
the public in these land deals completely by not taking the time to perform due
diligence before moving forward. We implore you as our representatives and
leaders to no fail us again.
If this trade is to go through, you owe it to your local constituents as well as
public access users abroad to ensure all areas are investigated and legally
protected in perpetuity. The residents of McCall should not be facing threats to
the safety of their drinking water source. Wildlife protections and impact studies
to these populations must be completed to ensure this development does not
negatively impact watershed and wildlife protections. Public access, as it is one
of the most valuable assets to our economy in Idaho for tourism, home
valuations, public health among other things, needs to be protected AT ALL
COSTS!
These land deals require your vigilance. Your constituents require you
diligence. Please, we implore you, don't make the fast cash now at the expense
of us all.
239Jamie Utz 2904 North We've already seen the overwhelmingly negative impacts of large land
26th St, Boise acquisitions like DF Development: overall access lost, heritage activities like
hunting severely restricted, and community tensions high. On the Trident
website, the claim that the McCall region is 'costing taxpayers' but then ensuring
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that 'public access is maintained' and 'any development will be minimal' is
inherently contradictory and incredibly disingenuous. Keep Idaho public lands in
Idaho public hands, not the wealthy few! Please, p
lease don't allow this
exchange to occur.
240Leslie P.O. Box 2663Say NO to Trident Holdings land swap. In an effort to destroy McCall and possibly
Roberts the most beautiful location in the world, one person claims to know what’s best
for all!
241Casandra 145 E Lake My family moved up here to live in a small town. If land is swapped and
lysiak Fork Rd. developed, it takes away from living in a small town. We are against it!!!
McCall
242Kevin Regan2578 E Warm These lands are better off protected for public access, recreation, wildlife habitat
Springs Aveand water quality for our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren than
being sold and parcelled off.
243Nancy PO Box 4415. No, Absolutely not. Please do not approve any of this land exchange. This is very
Farnsworth McCall Idaho bad for the city of McCall.
244Emily Blcek1500 Fairway I am not a resident of this county. I am however a life long resident of Idaho, that
st Middleton has frequented this area for the entirety of my life. I am opposed to the land
ID 83644 swap. You can see the negative consequences that took place in recent land swap
deals close to McCall already.
We are asking our community members to please refrain from any land swap
deals. Don’t look for the easy way out at the sacrifice of all idaho community
members.
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245Kelly Gorritz 2222 S. Having lived in McCall for several years and still a frequent long stay visitor, I
Colorado Ave. value the beauty and environmental resource of our natural shoreline around
Boise, Idaho
Payette Lake and Little Lake. And I am not alone. These lakes have been settled
83706 and explored by many people, including the Nez Perce, Shoshone, & Bannock
tribes, trappers, Finns, homesteaders, scientists, fisherman and other
recreational enthusiasts. The trails that hug the water bear the footprints of so
many who have utilized the lake and banks for fishing, medicinal plants,
mushroom and berry gathering. Equally as important are the ecosystems that
these open areas support, allowing a multitude of diverse species to cohabit
with the residents of this mountain town. It is imperative that the current
designated open areas around these lakes remain available for public use.
Without them, it is but a postcard for a few, and the resources that have been
shared for so long will be governed by private investors. It is so easy to sell off
property when the economy tanks, a knee jerk response to lack of funds, and
much of Idaho's wild lands are experiencing this land transfer. A possible
alternative solution would be to set up an endowment to allow the lands to
remain open under private ownership. Or perhaps we should adopt the laws
used in Scotland regarding trespassing- all citizens are free to cross the wild lands
at any time, and are provided "styles" to cross fence lines. They must obey
"breach of privacy" laws and refrain from approaching homes and dwellings, but
are able to access rivers and hunting areas, hiking trails and shorelines, without
legal issue. Since we are a long way from refining our laws to protect open spaces
for recreation or environmental reasons, we must present our statement to
oppose future sales of our public lands. I passionately oppose the sale of the
land around the Payette Lakes of McCall. Thank you for your consideration.
246Laur Cabin 1689 Lick We stand in opposition to any consideration of the proposed land swap of Idaho
Trust Creek Road, Endowment land in and around the Payette Lakes. This proposal has been
McCall Idaho considered before and the outcome was a denial for all the right reasons. The
most obvious is that these lands are an irreplaceable attraction of the McCall
experience for Valley county residents and visitors alike. The land may have been
set aside for the revenue it would generate in lumber, but with the immense
development in the area in recent years it has since become a great natural
feature that is complimentary and in harmony with the beautiful lakes it
surrounds. We should do everything we can to insure that this experience
remains a unique feature for the benefit of the citizens of Idaho and guests.
While it may not be immediately apparent, the important of these lands to the
local and state economy should not be underestimated.
247Teri 7698 west Please leave Idaho public. Wild and free.
Martinhollamorning ct
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248Nick 938 Valley Rim Even though Alec Williams called us "folks" twice in his "Preserve McCall"
Monahan Rd. McCall, ID missive, I still have to voice my opposition to this.
83638
249Lyndsay Lind 105 Wallace Please don’t make the land around the lake private. Keep it in state hands so all
St. Boise, ID can enjoy, and keep development down.
250Rosa Pothier 5484 n I am a frequent recreational user in this area and specifically to the public lands
collister drive which have been proposed for this land swap. I strongly oppose this land trade.
The heart of our state and what makes it great is the access to wildlife and use
of these public lands. It drives many of the aspects of our culture that so many
move here to find.
Unfortunately, we have slowly been losing piece after piece in order to make a
quick buck and we can never get that back. Precedent shows that these private
purchasers have no interest in maintaining access or have any of the Idahoan
interests at heart. Any promises to do so in the past have quickly been shows to
be false when it is too late to fight back. These deals have and will continue to
have negative impacts on public interest and public access.
As representatives, it is your duty to protect our state and to protect the citizens
from loss of land that has more value than any price tag, especially not one
proposed by the self interested buyer themselves.
251Bruce and 675 Fox Ridge If I had more detail, I would provide it. Lacking detail, I do not think this ‘land
Gail Rankin Lane, PO Box exchange’ is a positive thing for McCall. Trident appears to be a land broker
1043 working for unnamed moneyed interests that will likely have only their own
financial interests as a primary factor. There should be a strong effort to ensure
that our community future is not dictated by a plutocratic oligarchy. Money is
power. It is critical that we uphold ideas and action that benefit the community
as a whole.
252Nadav Eiron 2238 Payette All of these lands need to be put in a permanent Conservation Trust. There is
Drive, McCall other land to develop. This is an incredible opportunity to protect all of the wild
ID 83638 lands surrounding Payette Lake and McCall. I urge that we keep it in public
protection. To sell off this land is short-sighted. These are public lands and I
encourage that we get brave and protect these lands from development, for the
good of the State. McCall and surrounding environment should be treated as the
precious pristine resource that it is. Selling this public land to developers is NOT
in the interest of the public good. Give the public the chance to protect these
lands and meet any proposed money the developers are suggesting. This is a
LEGACY moment for McCall, let's be courageous and meet the opportunity to
protect what is pristine!!
253Brian 913 Chipmunk Please do not let this land grab happen. There is no way public access to these
GrahamLane, McCall, lands can be guaranteed in the future after the land is sold to private entities.
ID My family loves McCall due to the access to wilderness. I understand that the
Wilkes Brothers situation was different in that it was already private land, but we
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fear a similar situation occurring to our beloved State Lands. We didn't buy a
place in McCall to enjoy timber benefits up north. I am also frustrated that this
proposal is being pushed under the chaos of the current Covid-19 situation
where people are preoccupied with other worries and may not be fully aware of
what is being proposed or even able to comment.
254Pat 3948 valley I say no to this trade!!
planagan view dr. New
meadows
255Madilyn 1105 feltham I am not a resident of this community, however, I am a very frequent recreational
mccoy peak dr user in this area and specifically to the public lands which have been proposed
Emmett Idaho for this land swap with Trident LLC and IDL. I take issue with this land trade in a
83617 few ways.
First, allowing the buying party to place their own valuation on the land in
question is ridiculous. Even if the true intention of this trade is to maximize
financial benefit to the state endowment and educational funds, why would the
state want to accept the valuation from an obviously biased party rather than a
third-party entity. This is equivalent to a home owner allowing a perspective
buyer to tell them the value of their home rather than home appraisers, realtors,
market analysts etc. The valuation that has been placed on the property north
of Payette Lake is atrociously undervalued, at best. You need no experience in
land valuation or development to know that this property is worth a considerably
more than Trident LLC proposed. On this basis alone, this proposal should be
dead in the water as obviously the state is not getting the correct valuation or
value in swapped lands in this deal.
Secondly, this land swap is merely one of many that has been proposed,
implemented and completed recently in not only this state but this county
specifically. You don't have to look far to see the negative impacts these land
deals have had on public interest and public access. In fact just a few miles south,
land was sold into private interest, with all the assurance that public access
would be maintained. However, this has not been the case. Gates have been
erected barring access to public roads and easements, and in fact privatized and
armed security now patrols said areas having frequent and potentially dire
interactions with the public. Another recent news worthy event occurred near
the Sawtooth National Recreation area in just the past two weeks. Two brothers
who had traded and bought land which was previously public land, and who
knew full well when they purchased the property that a trail easement with the
USFS would be maintained through their property, harassed and threatened
USFS trail personnel with a helicopter hovering over them for reportedly more
than an hour in an attempt to stop or slow trail building and maintenance. These
landowners are now lobbying for and trying to get the taxpayers and counties to
build a new trail outside their property and to close the trail access to the public.
You cannot tell me the cost of that was factored into the original land deal, or
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that it is not a financial burden to the local community. Forgive us, those of us
who value our sacred public lands, for not trusting the "good old word" of private
interest and development groups that they will maintain or protect public access.
That precedent has not been set. In fact, I would go so far as to say as far as
precedent goes: IDL, Idaho legislators, and local community leadership has failed
the public in these land deals completely by not taking the time to perform due
diligence before moving forward. We implore you as our representatives and
leaders to no fail us again.
If this trade is to go through, you owe it to your local constituents as well as
public access users abroad to ensure all areas are investigated and legally
protected in perpetuity. The residents of McCall should not be facing threats to
the safety of their drinking water source. Wildlife protections and impact studies
to these populations must be completed to ensure this development does not
negatively impact watershed and wildlife protections. Public access, as it is one
of the most valuable assets to our economy in Idaho for tourism, home
valuations, public health among other things, needs to be protected AT ALL
COSTS!
These land deals require your vigilance. Your constituents require you
diligence. Please, we implore you, don't make the fast cash now at the expense
of us all.
256Monique Mm.pitcher11Please keep our beloved land that we love so much.
Pitcher @gmail.com
257James and 3300 Elk Ridge We have lived in the McCall area over 40 years. We have raised our children
Johnet Rd new here, we have taught in the school district over 30 years, and own businesses in
Beaver Meadows, Id. McCall. Over the last 40 years we have realized the pristine beauty of the McCall
83654 area is truly its main asset. Much of the beauty of this area is having use of the
Business: 310 public lands. The value of these public lands far exceed any money that the state
East Lake would receive by this land swap. This is natural public lands everyone can use. If
Street McCall, this exchange happens, it will be eventually filled with housing developments
Id. 83638 which are detrimental to the wildlife, water quality and economy of the full-time
residents of this area. This will forever change the quality of the area in which
we have lived, raised our children, and in which we are raising our grandchildren.
It would forever change it for our visitors who love to come here. We urge the
City of McCall and the State Lands Board to reject this land swap. preserve our
public lands and our area of McCall.
258Steve 937 Flynn I am not in favor of the land swap due to the potential to limit public access to
Anglea Lane, McCall, the area (see West Mtn for an example). I am sure the developer will say
ID 83638 otherwise, but in the end access will be closed and we will lose yet another
somewhat undeveloped section of forest.
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259Murray 309 Concerning Trident Holdings. If Trident Holdings is claiming transparency and
Dalgleish Edgewater wants to have and build the trust of the people of McCall, Valley County and the
Circle, McCall
state of Idaho, they need to state clearly and openly who are the financial
backers of Trident Holdings. Alec Williams is just the front for this group having
little experience in property development of any kind nor the finances for a
project of this magnitude. Follow the money, learn the Trident Holdings track
record if they have one or its principal partners. Ask this question until you get
the answers that we need. Once the transfer is made, they can really do anything
they want with their new acquisitions. Before any endorsement is made, lets see
many more details of their proposal and get these important questions
answered. After experiencing the West Rock, Val Bois, and Tamarack disasters,
let's please learn the lessons of the past and make sure that we have better
information and transparency before we embrace such a monumental decision
for our region. If we don't know who is behind the money, we have little idea of
what their true goals are. Talk is cheap, lets see who really is involved to
understand their intentions. Respectfully, Jan and Murray Dalgleish
260Stephen PO Box 86, I am opposed to the land exchange proposed by Trident Holdings for the State
Ryberg McCall ID Lands in the area around McCall. I use these lands for recreation and along with
83638 the rest of the city depend on the clean water of Payette Lake. I support keeping
these lands under the management of the Department of Lands. I do not believe
private ownership of these lands is in the best interest of the citizens of Idaho.
In addition, I fully support the development of a long range plan for the State
Lands in the McCall area with the involvement of local citizens and local
government. Thank you for considering these comments.
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261Judy 13775 Nisula I am appalled that this meeting is going to host a presentation by Alec Williams
Anderson Road, McCall for his proposed land swap. We are in the middle of a pandemic , in a recession
Idaho 83638
moving towards a depression making it almost impossible to have any
meaningful public meeting and questioning of his ideas. This proposal is
extremely upsetting to thousands of people and to not have a full airing of the
concerns and questions is unforgivable. It makes you wonder if the proponent
is just callous or very opportunistic, striking at a moment when public
engagement is very difficult.
Regardless, in this comment which I have no idea if any council member will
read, I am imploring the council to be proactive in this situation and recognize
that the endowment lands for 130 years have been intricately woven into the
culture, history and economy of McCall. Many people have grown up with those
lands and the close access from town makes them feel like a shared backyard.
AND they are a large part of our watershed providing our drinking water. To
have them privatized and their future in the hands of one inexperienced investor
is a tragedy and will reshape McCall in ways many of us would find beyond sad.
I am sure if you question Alec carefully you will see he is early in his process and
does not really know exactly nor understand the repercussions of what he is
proposing except that he is positioning himself to take advantage of the huge
boom in luxury houses as the rich flee from covid and racial fears.
It is crucial that the council not accept the idea that Alec puts forth that there
is urgency in this deal (coming from who knows where-not the Land Board) and
that this privatization is the only option. In the interest of fairness and protection
of McCall the Council needs to invite the Land Board, the County Commissioners
and the PUBLIC into a conversation about what is possible for these endowment
lands and explore how can we keep them in public hands.
262Matthew 5699 S I am vehemently opposed to any loss of public land use. Our children should have
Platt Nasturtium PL. the ability to go enjoy the wild nature of the north shore. Large scale condos and
Boise, ID buildings will destroy that.
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263Allen King 610 Agenda Item: AB 20-198 Trident Holdings
Woodlands
I am writing to request that the McCall City Council take all actions within the
Dr., PO Box
Council’s legal authority to prevent the Trident LLC land exchange and to keep
4415, McCall
the 28,000 acres of state land around McCall in public ownership.
ID 83638
To maximize the Council’s voice in this matter I would encourage close
collaboration with Valley County, Idaho State Parks, and other government and
private entities. There is no doubt that the land exchange, if approved, would
gravely affect the quality of life in McCall. We must find a way to keep these lands
public.
Thank you for listening.
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264Tyler Smith713 East Idaho I am not a resident of this community, however, I am a very frequent recreational
Street New user in this area and specifically to the public lands which have been proposed
Plymouth, ID for this land swap with Trident LLC and IDL. I take issue with this land trade in a
83655 few ways.
First, allowing the buying party to place their own valuation on the land in
question is ridiculous. Even if the true intention of this trade is to maximize
financial benefit to the state endowment and educational funds, why would the
state want to accept the valuation from an obviously biased party rather than a
third-party entity. This is equivalent to a home owner allowing a perspective
buyer to tell them the value of their home rather than home appraisers, realtors,
market analysts etc. The valuation that has been placed on the property north
of Payette Lake is atrociously undervalued, at best. You need no experience in
land valuation or development to know that this property is worth a considerably
more than Trident LLC proposed. On this basis alone, this proposal should be
dead in the water as obviously the state is not getting the correct valuation or
value in swapped lands in this deal.
Secondly, this land swap is merely one of many that has been proposed,
implemented and completed recently in not only this state but this county
specifically. You don't have to look far to see the negative impacts these land
deals have had on public interest and public access. In fact just a few miles south,
land was sold into private interest, with all the assurance that public access
would be maintained. However, this has not been the case. Gates have been
erected barring access to public roads and easements, and in fact privatized and
armed security now patrols said areas having frequent and potentially dire
interactions with the public. Another recent news worthy event occurred near
the Sawtooth National Recreation area in just the past two weeks. Two brothers
who had traded and bought land which was previously public land, and who
knew full well when they purchased the property that a trail easement with the
USFS would be maintained through their property, harassed and threatened
USFS trail personnel with a helicopter hovering over them for reportedly more
than an hour in an attempt to stop or slow trail building and maintenance. These
landowners are now lobbying for and trying to get the taxpayers and counties to
build a new trail outside their property and to close the trail access to the public.
You cannot tell me the cost of that was factored into the original land deal, or
that it is not a financial burden to the local community. Forgive us, those of us
who value our sacred public lands, for not trusting the "good old word" of private
interest and development groups that they will maintain or protect public access.
That precedent has not been set. In fact, I would go so far as to say as far as
precedent goes: IDL, Idaho legislators, and local community leadership has failed
the public in these land deals completely by not taking the time to perform due
diligence before moving forward. We implore you as our representatives and
leaders to no fail us again.
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If this trade is to go through, you owe it to your local constituents as well as
public access users abroad to ensure all areas are investigated and legally
protected in perpetuity. The residents of McCall should not be facing threats to
the safety of their drinking water source. Wildlife protections and impact studies
to these populations must be completed to ensure this development does not
negatively impact watershed and wildlife protections. Public access, as it is one
of the most valuable assets to our economy in Idaho for tourism, home
valuations, public health among other things, needs to be protected AT ALL
COSTS!
These land deals require your vigilance. Your constituents require you
diligence. Please, we implore you, don't make the fast cash now at the expense
of us all.
265Stacy 104 Mather July 8th, 2020
Bowers Rd, McCall, ID
Respected McCall City Council Members-
83638
It has recently come to my attention, and that of the greater McCall community
and State, that Trident Holdings is proposing to “swap” timber land in the
Northern part of the State for 28,000 acres of State Endowment Lands- prime
recreation land surrounding Big Payette and Little Payette Lake, as well as many
other popular and pristine areas surrounding McCall that are currently open to
all users in the State of Idaho, under the guise of “Preserve McCall….” When in
actuality it’s a land grab that will result in huge profits for a private company.
Their argument being it costs the State $275k a year to manage these lands,
stating that’s a substantial cost for the Idaho State Land Board and subsequent
Education Endowment to bear. It is clear in the State Constitution that Idaho
Endowment Lands need to have the highest and best usage/profit, but there are
surely other paths to investigate and pursue and still accomplish the goals of
everyone. After reading Trident Holdings letter and listening to their discussion
on Facebook, they claim they can do a much better job; donating land to
conservation, public easements, etc…with minimal development.
What exactly does the minimal development entail?
Where is this development taking place?
What is the value of the development?
How much land will be donated back to the public?
Which lands and access points will be preserved for public use?
What is the value of these lands?
In short….what is the actual trade-off?
How much do they stand to gain….and how much do we stand to lose?
Trident Holdings states this will be a long-term project, over decades in fact….so
how can they state that a $275k annual bill for the cost of maintaining these
lands is a fair trade for land they’re going to develop and reap the benefits on for
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decades to come at the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars? Trident Holdings
also states that the communities are the most important and should have a place
in the conversation and help with developing this plan moving forward. If that’s
the case, then why do we need Trident Holdings to manage us? If there’s so much
to gain from this, why don’t we as a community band together with Land Trusts
across the State, private donations, grants, fundraising, etc. to manage these
lands for everyone to enjoy in perpetuity? I’ve been a part of fundraising
campaigns in the past to save access and public space from development and I
can tell you from experience, it works! It can be accomplished together!
Let’s look long term into the future and do the right thing. We can preserve this
beautiful, and highly popular and frequently used land for public use for all, and
not sell out to a developer with big dreams and no apparent concrete answers.
While I fervently oppose this proposal, at the very least, please pause on this
proposal until many more important details, facts, values, etc can be evaluated,
as well as alternatives, before any clear paths moving forward are agreed upon.
We only get one chance at this, and actually “preserving McCall,” means
preserving it as it is currently, open and free for all, for future generations to
come….not privatized and developed to the hilt like the next Lake Tahoe, where
only a small fraction can afford exclusive use. Profits over people isn’t the Idaho
way, freedom and equality for all is the legacy in which we can be proud to leave.
Thank you for your time and consideration on this most important matter.
Sincerely-
Stacy L Bowers
104 Mather Rd
McCall, ID 83638
266Lindsay 129 E Blue Jay I do not support the exchange any of our state lands to a private developer.
Reynolds Creek Rd. Conserving the Payette lake watershed is more important then the tax revenue
Boise, ID made from building new homes or condos. Please stop prioritizing developers
83716 and start prioritizing what makes Idaho, particularly the McCall area, so special.
It is not the great condo developments, it not the high end vacations homes, it is
the open space, trails, clean air and water, wildlife and endless recreational
opportunities.
267Spencer 75 Willow I grew up in McCall, and someday dream of possibly moving back with my family,
Lawley Creek Rd., buying a home, working in the local economy, and being a part of the community
Livingston, MT that helped to raise me. The thought of letting an out of town group deface,
59047 distort, and disgrace the beauty, space, and down-to-earth elements of McCall
and it's surrounding property saddens me to my core. It would forever stain and
ruin the area, and I'm confident, myself and others, who are EAGER to invest in
the people and community of McCall, would look elsewhere. You'll be left with
profit-driven developers, vacation-rental-home glut, and a price-out and loss of
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year-round residents. In short, this land-swap would leave a permanent
economic and social scar across the face of McCall.
268Scott 1966 N I am writing to urge the Board to reject the proposed trade of land in McCall and
Randolph Stoneview in Valley County for the benefit of the out of state investors. Payette Lake
Place, Boise ID
already has limited access. The area around the lake is congested and there are
83702 very few public beach spots. I have concerns about trading away this swath of
land which the public can access with uncertain and vague promises about access
to the land going forward. There is a great value to be derived from public
access. What makes Mccall unique is the large park area within the city. If this
trade is allowed the natural beauty will be diminished and the public enjoyment
diminished.
269John Rygh349 Carmen I'd like to comment on the lDLland swap being proposed by Trident Holdings,
Drive, McCall, LLC. Trident's PR is very smooth with a folksy down home touch to it. So is every
ID 83638 other land developer's. Talk is cheap. Given the seeming lack of compunction
to tell the whole truth in almost every sales pitch we are subjected to these days,
I have to strenuously object to the proposal at this time. The privatization of
some of McCall's finest close-in recreation lands seems egregiously outrageous.
Trident seems to be saying growth is inevitable, and money is tight so the State
Land Board is poised to screw us by selling off the property piecemeal. Trident
offers an arguably less reprehensible alternative. Maybe, maybe not. Something
tells me there are unexplored alternatives out there contrary to Trident's claims.
It would be interesting to know exactly what the Land Board's plans for this
property were before Trident came along. Not to mention a thorough review of
any alternatives that had been floated previously. Until I see a lot more analysis
of Trident's proposal, I'm inclined to take my chances with the Land Board.
- John Rygh, McCall
270Jeremy 7698 w I am not a resident of this community, however, I am a very frequent recreational
Holland morning ct user in this area and specifically to the public lands which have been proposed
Boise Idaho for this land swap with Trident LLC and IDL. I take issue with this land trade in a
83709 few ways.
First, allowing the buying party to place their own valuation on the land in
question is ridiculous. Even if the true intention of this trade is to maximize
financial benefit to the state endowment and educational funds, why would the
state want to accept the valuation from an obviously biased party rather than a
third-party entity. This is equivalent to a home owner allowing a perspective
buyer to tell them the value of their home rather than home appraisers, realtors,
market analysts etc. The valuation that has been placed on the property north
of Payette Lake is atrociously undervalued, at best. You need no experience in
land valuation or development to know that this property is worth a considerably
more than Trident LLC proposed. On this basis alone, this proposal should be
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dead in the water as obviously the state is not getting the correct valuation or
value in swapped lands in this deal.
Secondly, this land swap is merely one of many that has been proposed,
implemented and completed recently in not only this state but this county
specifically. You don't have to look far to see the negative impacts these land
deals have had on public interest and public access. In fact just a few miles south,
land was sold into private interest, with all the assurance that public access
would be maintained. However, this has not been the case. Gates have been
erected barring access to public roads and easements, and in fact privatized and
armed security now patrols said areas having frequent and potentially dire
interactions with the public. Another recent news worthy event occurred near
the Sawtooth National Recreation area in just the past two weeks. Two brothers
who had traded and bought land which was previously public land, and who
knew full well when they purchased the property that a trail easement with the
USFS would be maintained through their property, harassed and threatened
USFS trail personnel with a helicopter hovering over them for reportedly more
than an hour in an attempt to stop or slow trail building and maintenance. These
landowners are now lobbying for and trying to get the taxpayers and counties to
build a new trail outside their property and to close the trail access to the public.
You cannot tell me the cost of that was factored into the original land deal, or
that it is not a financial burden to the local community. Forgive us, those of us
who value our sacred public lands, for not trusting the "good old word" of private
interest and development groups that they will maintain or protect public access.
That precedent has not been set. In fact, I would go so far as to say as far as
precedent goes: IDL, Idaho legislators, and local community leadership has failed
the public in these land deals completely by not taking the time to perform due
diligence before moving forward. We implore you as our representatives and
leaders to no fail us again.
If this trade is to go through, you owe it to your local constituents as well as
public access users abroad to ensure all areas are investigated and legally
protected in perpetuity. The residents of McCall should not be facing threats to
the safety of their drinking water source. Wildlife protections and impact studies
to these populations must be completed to ensure this development does not
negatively impact watershed and wildlife protections. Public access, as it is one
of the most valuable assets to our economy in Idaho for tourism, home
valuations, public health among other things, needs to be protected AT ALL
COSTS!
These land deals require your vigilance. Your constituents require you
diligence. Please, we implore you, don't make the fast cash now at the expense
of us all.
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271Teri 7698 w I am not a resident of this community, however, I am a very frequent recreational
Martinhollamorning ct user in this area and specifically to the public lands which have been proposed
nd Boise Idaho for this land swap with Trident LLC and IDL. I take issue with this land trade in a
83709 few ways.
First, allowing the buying party to place their own valuation on the land in
question is ridiculous. Even if the true intention of this trade is to maximize
financial benefit to the state endowment and educational funds, why would the
state want to accept the valuation from an obviously biased party rather than a
third-party entity. This is equivalent to a home owner allowing a perspective
buyer to tell them the value of their home rather than home appraisers, realtors,
market analysts etc. The valuation that has been placed on the property north
of Payette Lake is atrociously undervalued, at best. You need no experience in
land valuation or development to know that this property is worth a considerably
more than Trident LLC proposed. On this basis alone, this proposal should be
dead in the water as obviously the state is not getting the correct valuation or
value in swapped lands in this deal.
Secondly, this land swap is merely one of many that has been proposed,
implemented and completed recently in not only this state but this county
specifically. You don't have to look far to see the negative impacts these land
deals have had on public interest and public access. In fact just a few miles south,
land was sold into private interest, with all the assurance that public access
would be maintained. However, this has not been the case. Gates have been
erected barring access to public roads and easements, and in fact privatized and
armed security now patrols said areas having frequent and potentially dire
interactions with the public. Another recent news worthy event occurred near
the Sawtooth National Recreation area in just the past two weeks. Two brothers
who had traded and bought land which was previously public land, and who
knew full well when they purchased the property that a trail easement with the
USFS would be maintained through their property, harassed and threatened
USFS trail personnel with a helicopter hovering over them for reportedly more
than an hour in an attempt to stop or slow trail building and maintenance. These
landowners are now lobbying for and trying to get the taxpayers and counties to
build a new trail outside their property and to close the trail access to the public.
You cannot tell me the cost of that was factored into the original land deal, or
that it is not a financial burden to the local community. Forgive us, those of us
who value our sacred public lands, for not trusting the "good old word" of private
interest and development groups that they will maintain or protect public access.
That precedent has not been set. In fact, I would go so far as to say as far as
precedent goes: IDL, Idaho legislators, and local community leadership has failed
the public in these land deals completely by not taking the time to perform due
diligence before moving forward. We implore you as our representatives and
leaders to no fail us again.
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If this trade is to go through, you owe it to your local constituents as well as
public access users abroad to ensure all areas are investigated and legally
protected in perpetuity. The residents of McCall should not be facing threats to
the safety of their drinking water source. Wildlife protections and impact studies
to these populations must be completed to ensure this development does not
negatively impact watershed and wildlife protections. Public access, as it is one
of the most valuable assets to our economy in Idaho for tourism, home
valuations, public health among other things, needs to be protected AT ALL
COSTS!
These land deals require your vigilance. Your constituents require you
diligence. Please, we implore you, don't make the fast cash now at the expense
of us all.
272Jordan LeviPo Box 1765 The proposal by Trident Holdings LLC to privatize and develop over 28,000 acres
McCall ID of publicly accessible state lands surrounding Payette Lake, in exchange for
83638 timberlands elsewhere, threatens a large tract of fish and wildlife habitat that
provides countless public recreational opportunities. As a new resident of
McCall, I have only begun to experience this incredible landscape. It is my hope
that the 28,000 acres of state lands remains publicly accessible so that I may
continue to appreciate this beautiful place I now call home. Allowing Trident
Holdings LLC to privatize and develop the land would negate the reason I moved
here in the first place; to live in a place where my family and I can recreate freely
and experience the landscape and wildlife.
273Mendy 611 Illinois ave Please do not make all areas around payette lake private. The public needs to be
Stanford council Idaho able to spend time around the lake as well.
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274Paula forney 5468 w tivoli Please do not approve this exchange. Highway 55 is already a mess with so much
lane, Boise, traffic.
Idaho. 83703
275Dawn Matus 608 Mr. Alec Williams: I read with interest your open letter titled, "A Long-Term
Woodlands Solution to Preserve McCall." I believe your proposal deserves close and careful
Dr., McCall, ID consideration, but the people of McCall and Valley County need to hear more,
83638 and in detail, from you and your partners to make an informed decision about
this very important issue. Tell us more about your partners and about the
partnership you have created, so we can understand who is involved, and why
the long-term preservation of McCall's open spaces is critical to the people
working with you. Tell us more concretely about the clustered developments you
envision, and your proposals for how McCall will develop the infrastructure and
other supports needed to accommodate the resulting population growth and the
mitigate the environmental impact. Please provide more precise information
about the conservation easements you discuss, your thinking on where they
should be located, and proposed figures on acreage. Finally, the words "flexible,
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long-term approach" in your letter are concerning, because they invite the
possibility of veering away at some future date from any initial commitments
Trident Holdings might agree to. Please address what is meant by "flexible," and
your thoughts on how a binding agreement might be drawn up that would
ensure no unhappy surprises down the road for the people of McCall and Valley
County. Thank you. I look forward to learning more.
276Pike Teinert Trident, as a minimum, should fund and sustain, an endowment that will create
and continuously support low income housing in perpetuity. It should be
adequate to accommodate all seasonal workers, plus all additional workers
below the poverty level. Without that commitment Trident should not be
allowed to close the transaction. McCall cannot sustain a healthy growth rate
unless it can attract service sector and construction workers that need housing
within its city limits. Unless Trident irrevocably commits to closing the gap
between low and high income residents it will erode McCall's foundation that
sustains a healthy and growing community.
277Diane 3351 Betsy I am really notin favor of this land deal. I am unconfortable with people coming
McGarvey Ross Way, in and getting large portions of public land for their own private use. They would
Boise, Idaho most likely cut off access to the very land that Idahoans who actually care hold
83706 dear. I vote NO!
278Michelle 210 Little I am very concerned about having our most prime recreational state land be put
Reagan Pond Ct, into private hands - regardless of how great a picture Trident Holdings paints of
McCall ID how they are going to manage it. The land in question, encompasses both
83638 Summer and Winter recreation - access to backcountry skiing, biking and hiking
trails, ATV and motorcycle access. People live here for the access to recreation
that this land in particular provides. I think we need to do everything possible to
keep this land in the hands of the state (in the hands of the public), so that we
will never be at risk of the changing wants/needs of private ownership.
279Lolita Pine 216 Little I am against trading public lands on Payette Lake to private ownership.
Pond Ct
280Scott 210 Little Keep public land public!
Reagan Pond Court
McCall, ID
83638
281Michele 147 E. Lake, Please delay any decisions regarding the Trident Land Swap. As a community, we
Renee Silvus McCall, Idaho can do better. We have to collaborate and create a more sustainable and popular
83638 plan. Thank you.
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282Jeff and 14186 History says most, if not all, conservation efforts in this country have been work
Deirdre Jefferson Rd products of collaborative public analyses and input with management agencies
Abrams and/or initiatives guided by mission-related work of nonprofits. We’re glad that
Trident has brought the significant issue of ensuring public access to some of
Idaho’s most cherished lands into such prominence, but this is not the way to
address and remedy the problem.
We urge McCall City Council to thoroughly research and examine any and all
viable opportunities to address this potential long-term threat to public lands
both within and outside the city's area of impact. If there is as much interest,
value and support for conserving these areas for future generations of Idahoans
as has been voiced already in opposition to this plan, then Idahoans themselves
will come up with a way to make it happen without creating another dangerous
precedent for public lands management in our state. The value of these lands
should be captured and retained exclusively by the people of Idaho, not a
development company.
Please recognize the magnitude of this proposal and it's profound impact on our
area.
WHY IS THERE SUCH AN URGENT NEED TO DISPOSE OF THESE FUNDS NOW?
Possible questions and homework for the Council in preparation for discussions
with Trident and the Land Board:
WHY IS THERE SUCH AN URGENT NEED TO DISPOSE OF THESE FUNDS NOW?
- What percentage of state lands does this chunk actually represent?
- How was Trident’s cost-basis estimate for current management practices
arrived at? Is it accurate? How does it compare to management costs on other
state lands?
- How much will it cost the state to manage newly acquired lands in N. Idaho?
- What was income from recent logging operations on these IDL properties in
McCall?
- What’s the magnitude and variety of current public use in the proposed swap
area compared to other state lands?
What’s the decision-making point and process?
- At what point in the decision-making process does the City have biggest
opportunity to make a difference?
- Could Land and Water Conservation Fund come into play as a solution?
- Trident formed in January 2020, with no history of conservation; who are
investors and staffers?
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- What is the extent to which the City could collaborate with conservation groups
(IWF, ICL, BHA, etc.)?
- What’s the decision-making point and process?
- At what point in the decision-making process does the City have biggest
opportunity to make a difference?
283Brooke 1659 S Please keep this land available for everyone to use and if anything allow more
HueftleRiverstone trail building access. Everyone should be able to enjoy the beauty of this area!
Lane Apt 102
284Tracey P.O. Box 326, Dear City Council Members,
Kindall 62 Garden
I am deeply saddened and disturbed by the possibility that 28,000 acres of
Lane McCall,
undeveloped endowment lands north of Payette Lake may be given over to
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Trident Holdings as part of a land exchange. As a twenty-year resident of this
community who has raised my children here, contributed in many ways to our
quality of life through my nonprofit work, owns a home here, and takes
stewardship of this unique and beautiful land seriously, I am deeply opposed to
this land exchange.
I am aware of the obligation of state endowment lands to produce an annual
income. There simply MUST be better ways to meet this criteria than in selling
off our precious collective lands to the highest or most convenient bidders. Once
we lose our public lands, we cannot regain them for collective ownership - they
are gone forever. Good intentions spoken by one generation of private owners
is far too small a price to justify selling off the long-term health of our ecosystem
and our Valley communities.
McCall and Valley County currently face challenging growth pressures on many
fronts, not least of which include the overflow of Boise’s fast-paced population
growth and the pressures of Midas Gold’s intentions. If we’re not very careful in
managing growth and setting limits, we will drive away those who currently live
here and who have made this community a very special place. We could too-
easily destroy a clean, beautiful, thriving landscape that deserves to be cherished
and protected.
It is incumbent upon all of us - and particularly our leaders - to carefully manage
growth in Valley County for the benefit of all. This area DOES have a carrying
capacity, and the quality of life for those who currently call it home - people,
animals, waters, trees, air - must be protected. Change is inevitable, rampant
uncontrolled development is not.
Thank you for hearing my concerns and taking them seriously.
Sincerely,
Tracey Kindall
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285Leah Dunn 1404 N 14th St Do not privatize these lands. The claim that "these lands are costing the state
Boise, ID more money than it takes to manage them. In an analysis" is unfounded. Has an
83702
analysis been done on the economic impact of visitors to the area who use these
access areas? The amount of revenue generated for the city is surely comparable
or more. Public land should remain public,
286Sandi 5988 N. I do not live in this communication, but I have recreated in this area all my life.
Attebery Lichfield Ave, As did my parents and their parents and their parents. This land needs to be
Meridian, protected for our children to enjoy the outdoors. If we don’t protect this land my
Idaho children’s children will not have a place to recreate in the same manner that I
did. I greatly appear the selling of this land for personal use.
287Ron Reagan 6331 N I oppose the Payette Lakes land exchange proposal by Trident LLC. Payette Lakes
Charleston Pl, and the surrounding landscape would be altered by such a proposal. Public
Boise, Idaho access would be reduced, visual beauty would be lost and the increase in use of
83703 the lake would cause even more damage to our special lake.
288Chris Fout 1404 Louisa, I do not support Trident Holdings proposal. He makes a lot of lofty promises but
McCall, ID there are no guarantees and not even a clear understanding of how he will keep
83638 those promises. To keep this land accessible to the public, it should be
transferred to the Parks and Rec or other public entity if IDOL no longer wants it
in their portfolio.
289Andrew 2269 Lovers I am vehemently against the proposed land swap. This will change the town of
Connolly Lane, McCall, McCall and Payette Lake forever. The city barely has the infrastructure to handle
ID 83638 the traffic and people during peak seasons, and further mass development will
only further compound the issues.
290Andrea1362 El I am very concerned about the Trident Holdings proposal to the State Land Board
Rancho Blvd., that entails swapping of IDL endowment lands surrounding the McCall area.
Pocatello, Please, please do whatever is possible to keep this from happening. I co-own a
Idaho 83201 family cabin outside of McCall and have enjoyed over 53 years of this beautiful
area, hiking, boating, RZR riding, fishing, etc. Everyone I know, that are familiar
with this area, are sickened at this prospect. Just say NO!
291Ellen Holm 2167 Lakeview I am opposed to the Trident LLC proposal to the IDL to trade 28,000 acres in
Ave. #294, Valley County for timber lands in north Idaho.The proposal states that the trade
McCall, ID would result in $270,000 in greater returns by doing so, I can’t see where that is
83638 material given the recreational asset for Valley County residents and visitors.
292Andrew andrew.r.gutieI do not support this land exchange. With the rising population and housing
Gutierrez rrez@gmail.coboom in the treasure valley, lakeside property in McCall is of high value. The
m estimated value of the exchange at $85 million approximates to just over $3,000
an acre which is well below true value of the McCall acreage. This would be a
total rip off from the state of Idaho and expansion in the Valley county area
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should instead be focused around less developed communities like Cascade and
New Meadows.
293Nathan Titus 1316 w Born and raised in McCall. Mom lives on the property my late father and her
Heartland Dr. purchased in the late 60's. The recreation parking lot by Brundage ski area has
Kuna, ID my dad's name on it. We have never been able to afford a place on the lake but
83634 have always be able to access it and enjoy it's beauty through public lands. The
beauty of the lake continues to be destroyed by more and more houses being
built on her shores. Please keep as much of Payette Lake out of private owner's
hands as possible!
294Cindy 913 Chipmunk I oppose this initiative. We need to preserve the public land close to McCall and
GrahamLane McCall, protect the infrastructure of the town. The development proposed, along with
ID 83638 the loss of access to public land, would devastate the McCall we know and love
today and overpopulate/overuse city resources. We should not trust developers
to preserve land access as it's not in their best interest. They will say what they
need to say today to get the land, and then do what they "need" to do later to
generate a return on their investment. McCall will be fine without the land swap.
Don't let their fear tactics drive this decision.
295Kerri 200 Floyde St. Trident might "talk a good talk" right now just to pacify everyone into thinking
McLean (PO Box 2150) they have the schools and education as a priority but they won't "walk the walk".
McCall, Id Their bank accounts are their priority. Sad.
296Mark 12784 North I enjoy visiting the McCall area, and one its greatest attributes is the scenic
Burriesci Town Ridge beauty and undeveloped lands surrounding the lake. These have inherent value
Road, Boise, ID to visitors and wildlife, and are integral to the experience of so many, not to
83714 mention as havens for wildlife. Please do not trade these eternal qualities for a
developer to exploit. I would strongly urge you to preserve these areas for the
non commercial benefit of current and future generations.
297Zane Hardin 1762 N. "2018 McCall Area Comprehensive Plan
Snowfield Pl
McCall is part of a magnificent landscape that is the backbone of the community.
Kuna, ID
The combination of Payette Lake, the mountain and ridge-line horizons, forested
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hillsides, glacial moraines, Payette River, and other landscape features provide
both a beautiful setting and strong identity to the area. McCall’s natural places
are a key component of what makes McCall great, and play a foundational role
for the community vision.
Preserve the quality of the Payette River. Conserve the natural patterns and
function of streams, ridge-lines, topography, riparian areas, and wildlife habitat
areas.
The future land uses of McCall should:
Support a connected open space network and wildlife corridors.
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Permanently protect and retain open space and environmentally sensitive areas.
Conserve significant natural areas and encourage the creation of new natural
areas that increase the variety and quantity of fish and wildlife.
Regulate activities in natural resource areas that are deemed to be detrimental
to the provision of food, water, and cover for fish and wildlife.
Protect habitats of sensitive species."
Selling this land to be privatized and developed is not only irresponsible for the
sake of the community but a horrible financial decision as the profits from the
sale will be a fraction of what Trident will profit off the land.
Again, it's a horrible idea for IDL to basically hand over 28,000 acres to sit back
and watch someones business venture prosper while they develop and destroy
a LARGE part of the "magnificent landscape that is the backbone of the
community" in McCall.
298Garth Glevandoski@Please vote no on this land transfer. Once public access to this amazing treasure
Levandoski hotmail.com is limited it will be gone forever
299Kyrstan 232 Potter I feel that selling off and developing this piece of land would be akin to stealing
Hubbel Lane from the current and future residents and tourists to this area. It shouldn’t
belong to anyone it should belong to everyone.
300Edward 18723 N. Hello. My name is Ed Rebman. I am a resident of Boise but I own property in
Rebman Silver Tree Valley County and recreate in McCall on a regular basis throughout the year. I
Way, Boise, ID am also a board member and Co-Chair of the Idaho Chapter of Backcountry
83714 Hunters and Anglers, an organization with 2,400 members in Idaho (and 40,000+
nationally) that focuses on public land access. I am writing you to voice my
opposition to any proposal that would swap, transfer or otherwise privatize the
28,000 acre parcel of State of Idaho land surrounding Payette Lake.
I understand Trident LLC will be presenting one such proposal to the council on
the July 9th meeting. While I understand the council does not have direct
jurisdiction over this proposed land swap, I urge you to view this proposal with
extreme skepticism and publicly announce that it is not in the best interest of
McCall to swap, transfer or otherwise privatize this land.
This land is essential to hunters, fishermen, wildlife and other public land
recreators and it is part of the reason McCall is so special. Please oppose the loss
of this public land treasure.
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301Kerri kerriannesteb"Endowment land" around McCall is infinitely more valuable to any and all IDL-
Stebbins bins@gmail.codefined "beneficiaries" as recreation and/or conservation parcels. If lands are
m overdeveloped and privatized, the quality of the lake will suffer, as will all value
in/around McCall itself. There's also no denying many of these "endowment
lands" (which IDL maintains aren't "public" even though they've been treated as
public access lands for decades) directly connect to public lands that every
Idahoan (and everyone else visiting our great state) has the right to access.
Disconnecting access to those public lands for any reason—but especially for
private gain (and to pad the pockets of outside investors)—
by selling off
endowment lands abutting them is in direct opposition to everything Idaho
stands for, and is in direct opposition to everything local residents (and visitors)
of McCall want.
It isn't good business to overly privatize public resources (i.e. Payette Lake), and
it isn't what the City of McCall, and the entire State of Idaho, needs right now.
We already have such little public access to Payette Lake left (there's hardly any
access to the lake outside of Ponderosa State Park), especially considering the
millions of visitors traveling here to recreate on and around the lake each year.
It's also a terrible time to consider selling endowment land under the guise of
raising funds for public schools when (we know that's not what happens; outside
investors make millions in every endowment deal, and) there's a very real
possibility public schools won't even be opening in any meaningful way until
there's a vaccine for COVID-19.
This land doesn't need to be "swapped" right now, period, and shouldn't be.
302Eric Wakild 924 Please don’t make this swap. Keep lands public, even if it means adding fees for
Strawberry recreation or trailhead use. I would rather pay a fee than watch these areas get
Lane, McCall developed and lose public land access
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303Anne 998 Spruce I am 100% OPPOSED to the Trident Holdings LLC proposal for a land exchange
Herndon Way, McCall, that would result in privatization of 28,000 acres of public land surrounding
ID 83638 Payette Lake in McCall.
304Peter 8 Sawtooth From the time we bought our cabin on the edge of Ponderosa Park,where the
Fitzsimmons Court McCall front porch we had a view east and north along the mountains that line the west
ID 83638 side of Lick Creek to our house today that's just off West Mountain road, where
the panoramic view includes a vast section of the eastern range from the
Needles, through Jug Mountain and well north probably into the Seven Devils,
the one thought that has NEVER entered my mind: "boy, wouldn't it be nice if
these mountains had a bunch more houses, roads and clear cuts? I'd really like it
if instead of all the darkness out there I could see a bunch of lights dotting them
at night". Nope, not once did I ever think anything like that.
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Most of us have probably been to areas where they've done the kind of thing
being proposed here. Ask yourself, though it may have been okay for a few days,
did you really want to live there? There's a reason, and a magic, to what McCall
means to so many people. Don't mess it up by turning it into a cookie cutter
image of some of those other places.
The United Nations published a study today (8 Jul) that was compiled by over
100 researchers from some of the top universities around the world. The study
found: "Expanding areas under conservation could yield a return of at least $5
for every $1 spent and boost global economic output by about $250 billion
annually". If you're looking for a return on investment, you already have it. The
best answer is to not mess with what we currently have.
305Ryan 198 Wae Vle I do not support selling, trading, or any other type of state/public land transfer
Johnsen Way, Spirit of the lands around Payette lake. This critical network of state lands must stay
Lake Idaho intact.
306Travis travis_boy12This land exchange is a HORRIBLE idea. Idaho is plenty full as it is. There is simply
Barden @yahoo.com not enough room for thousands of MORE Californians, Oregonians, and
Washingtonians. Here in North Idaho, we are already getting beat out of being
able to purchase a house that fulfills our dreams, wants, and needs because of
so many out-of-staters being able to buy up these homes, sight unseen, with a
cash offer that is $25,000 more than the asking price. We do NOT need this
happening in the beautiful landscape of McCall as well. Payette Lake is a
beautiful, pristine, remote, immaculate, loved-by-all lake that has many uses
that benefit the greater good. With this land exchange, it would not only bring in
thousands of unwanted people, but it would also have a negative impact on the
environment and the fish and wildlife in that ecosystem. If individuals want to
travel from around the country to visit the lake - that’s fine. Come enjoy it for all
that it has to offer, because it has A LOT to offer, but developing around nearly
the entire lake to close off public access to every American citizen for the rest of
time is an EXTREMELY POOR AND IDIOTIC DECISION. Our children will never have
the chance to kayak around the lake, watch a bald eagle land on a Western Larch
and search for it’s prey. They’ll never get to view elk or mule deer thrive in this
environment either. The wildlife will be negatively impacted with a giant influx
of urbanization, and the aquatic species will be negatively impacted until the end
of time with all of the erosion from development and extra boat docks and
careless individuals spilling fuel and chemicals into the water to take out their
fancy boat for an afternoon on the water. I, and many others, cannot express
how vital it is to keep this public land in public hands. I VOTE NO for this land
exchange.
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307Rosemary 302 Mather The protection of state land is an opportunity to protect citizens rights to
Murphy Road Condo enviromental education experiences, unaltered water quality standards, and
C4 McCall
status' of critical species. As a city that was economically built with the
Idaho 83638 mindfulness and connection to the forest, it is your responsibility as fellow
neighbors and ancestors to keep that connection. This is your opportunity to
raise the hand of empathy to vote for the mountains, and not for the view.
308Scott 194 Buckcamp I strongly oppose the transfer of 28,000 acres of public land located near and
Morgan Lane around Payette Lake and Little Payette Lake. The public ownership of this land is
very important to the health and well being of the Valley County communities.
Please do not make this historic mistake.
Thank you,
Scott Morgan
194 Buckcamp Lane
McCall, ID. 83638
309Connor 289 Elk Creek Please keep these lands public and not to be placed for sale.
McNamara Rd., Fairfield,
ID 83327
310Lacey 289 Elk Creek Please do not place these lands for sale, keep them public for protection and
Hillman Rd., Fairfield, conservation of wildlife, water, and soil erosion.
ID 83327
311Daniel 187 Four This really strikes home with me as I spend a lot of time in the out of doors areas
Collins Corners Rd around McCall. The appeal of the town is that there is a TON of things to do and
Tensed, ID access, reducing public access to such a unique area would be a tragedy and
83843 disappointment. Keep Idaho IDAHO.
312Kevin Po 638 McCall, I oppose this transfer!
Lawhorn ID 83639
313Ryan64 Newell dr Please do not trade this land away to private interest. My property in valley
cascade ID county has already been vastly affected by lack of recreational access due to the
83611 Massive amounts of DF land that surround it.
This has forced my recreation north towards mccall and Donnelly which takes
place on large amounts of the land you are attempting to swap.
Idaho is a great stare with recreation abound let’s keep it this way. Keep public
lands public please.
314Dick and 2125 W Aspen We are opposed to the proposed transfer by Trident being considered by the
Susan Cove Dr., land board. Please realize that money does not always need to be the motivation
Bagley Meridian ID for decisions like this. Please consider how this would have a major impact on
83642
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the livelihood of the people who live in and around the McCall area and the land
in question.
Thank you
315Jim 965 Wagon Keep public lands public. Rise above what the nation expects from Idaho.
McNamara Wheel dr,
McCall, ID
83638
316Mahlon 721 Chaparro I strongly oppose selling of public lands. It should be accessible to all Idahoans
brown st.Caldwel, ID and not just the wealthy.
83605
317Ed Chavez 14 Owleclover it's our belief that this land should be kept in public hands to ensure access for
Lane, McCall, all. It's hard to believe this land is run at a loss. If so, the public surely has options
ID 83638 to reverse the revenue balance. In any case, selling the land to private investors
is a one time revenue gain. Then the land is gone forever.
318Richard 4094 N. Ettaro Hello Council,
Everett Ave
Please understand Idahoans with a true interest in Idaho strongly oppose public
lands being transferred to private ownership. Once lands are transferred to
transferred into private ownership they are lost forever. They become destined
to permanent change. Development will alter their landscape and fill the pockets
of developers while cheating Idahoans out of the beauty our state is known for.
Please understand public land transfers to private ownership serves investors
and not your constituents. I pray you will hold true to your commitment to
Idahoans and not entertain the interests of of investors. Please help keep our
state pristine. Thank you very much for your consideration.
319Sean harren 227 Alta vista Everywhere else in America, it’s citizens value housing over wilderness. Let us
dr. mcCall not fall to the same mentality that encroaches on our beautiful backyard.
Idaho
320Alex Kroll 2010 W I oppose the transfer of state lands around payette lake in Valley County. I
Cataldo Dr recreate and enjoy public access that it creates. By transferring ownership, it
Boise ID 83705 makes me less likely to come spend time and money in Mccall. As we’ve seen
from the wilks bro’s, promises don’t mean anything once the inks dry.
321Jared McCall, ID Please side with the people and resist the urge for greed. Generations have yet
McLean to enjoy this land andit’s beauty.
322Joe 10120 West To whom it may concern
Thompson Edna St Boise
While I live in Boise I am a resident of Idaho who spends time and money in the
83704
McCall community. I am of the opinion that the loss of more public land and
access around your community is detrimental to all of us.
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Please support those of us in the Idaho that appose this land swap.
Regards
Joe Thompson
323Ruth 606 Syringa To City Council of McCall –
Lewinski Dr. McCall, ID,
Thank you for your time and consistent consideration for the residents of McCall.
83638
It is a place that I will always refer to it as home. Currently, I am wrapping up an
MSc in Environmental Science with an emphasis on public health and study
medicine at the University of Washington.
As a student, I have grave concerns about the potential health impacts of the
proposed land swap by Trident Holdings, LLC. A few of them include:
- Any contamination incident in this area threatens drinking water for thousands
of residents downstream as well as recreationalists on Payette Lake.
- Diminished access to land will congest traffic to access points and thus increase
the number of accidents
-Current infrastructure does not support phone service in many locations on this
property, and an emergency call for a future resident of this area would deny the
community of McCall an ambulance or a fire vehicle for over an hour
-Without access to harvest wood in this area, fire risk increases dramatically
along roadways and could threaten existing infrastructure and local air quality
-Supporting school bus access to this area will be financially straining and winter
roadways present increased and undue risks for children
-Future development would be expensive to build and manage. This is the
antithesis of affordable housing and will increase the existing wealth disparity in
the area; such wealth disparities have been shown to harm health at a
population level
-Decreasing public access to green spaces has been proven to decline overall
wellbeing
In no way is Trident’s proposal a safe choice for the health of current McCall
residents. Please support local wellbeing.
Kind regards,
Ruth Lewinski
324Jamie 300 Mather RdThis is public land and the public does not want this to happen. I think letting 5
Mitchell bureaucrats and director Miller “trade” this property Directly into private hands
is wrong. Do the opposite of what the wilks bros did”, they are going to chunk it
into subdivisions immediately is exactly the opposite of what dfd has done.
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Trident will stick us with all 3 prongs. The state can use all of that extra income
tax money that we paid this year to pay for operating that idl ground.
325David Laing 1284 W. Please do not trade away our valuable public lands along these beautiful lakes.
Hitchcock St.,
Meridian, ID
83646
326Dustin 281 Madison Whoever has the power to sell public wilderness land in the McCall area needs
HenkelmanSt to know that I strongly oppose the idea. My wife fell in love with McCall, the
n lakes, and the wilderness that surrounds it. So much so that she’s visited three
times now and took me there as a birthday present. We’d be loss likely to visit
again if the area were to be sold off to private entities and likely developed. Our
public land and wilderness is what makes Idaho so great, and when it’s sold away,
we never get it back. Please pass on my concern to whoever has the decision-
making power.
327Angela 130 Forest I am opposed to the proposed land swap. Too much of Idaho has already gone
Garrard Lake Circle, to the wealthy few reducing accessible places for the public (remember how the
Donnelly Texas brothers closed spaces). We must consider the long term consequences,
not just this moment. Do not be hasty in this decision, once it is gone you can
never get it back.
328Sandy PO Box 4661, I opposed the land swap surrounding Payette Lake for properties in North Idaho.
Christensen McCall, Idaho Public lands belong to the people of this state. The value of this land is not only
83638 measured in fiscal terms; its value is also in the enhancement and enjoyment of
the quality of life in Valley County. If these lands are given over to private firms,
we will never enjoy them again. The Wilkes properties should serve as a lesson
to us all. Thank you for your consideration.
329Steven 500 Deer Trail This proposed transfer of lands is completely unacceptable. These lands are by
Wolfe Rd Blanchard no means equitable. Do not allow this transaction to take place. These are
ID 83804 premium public lands that should remain under public control and ownership.
330David Kirk Willey Lane Hello-
McCall Thank you for taking public comments on this important issue. We stand solidly
against the sale/ trade or transfer of the land surrounding Payette Lake. Having
spent a lifetime on the water of the Payette in all seasons - I understand the
unique isolation and beauty that the lake offers. There are few bastions of quiet
and sanctuaries for wildlife that remain on such a large public body of water in
the West. While the Land Board is charged with maximizing its economic return
and this sale would result in a considerable onetime windfall, the significant
economic value that accrues to all resident properties of Valley County (and
beyond) that have access to use the public spaces far exceed this value. What
does it mean to a landowner who is landlocked (similar to our land along Farm
to Market) when we no longer have the opportunities to enjoy these public
waterfront spaces? The State would be selling a portion of our equity in this
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transaction.
Thank you again for your consideration.
David
331Tom 2071 Lakeview Alec Williams is attempting theft of public land, with the help of New York Private
Manning Ave, McCall Equity and highly paid lobbyists. Send this punk kid packing back to New York
and his Harvard MBA buddies. ASAP. First train headed East.
332Sarah 1295 Elo RD This land is critical for the recreational opportunities and access that drive the
Armstrong McCall, IDrecreational revenue for McCall and adjacent communities. McCall is an outdoor
playground paradise that attracts thousands of visitors and millions of dollars
yearly. Selling or trading this land will inevitably lead to decreased access to
lands and decrease revenue made by the industries that rely on these
opportunities: Please oppose this action.
Thank you.
Dr. Sarah Armstrong
333Scott Hatter 3801 E Shady These areas are publicly enjoyed all by residents of Idaho. To transfer would
Glen Dr. diminish what makes Idaho and Valley county an amazing place To live and
recreate. These lands going private would be a disservice to following
generations and an irreversible mistake.
334Scott & 1505 Chris We are full-time residents of McCall, with Scott growing up here and being a
Rebecca Lane, McCall, MDHS '82 graduate. We write in opposition to 28,000 acres of undeveloped
Hurd ID 83638 endowment lands being given to Trident Holdings as part of a land exchange.
Trident has woven fear into the fabric of their story. They point to the Wilks
Brothers and the wedding event center debacle as what lies ahead if their offer
is not accepted.
There is an obligation of state endowment lands to produce an annual income.
There are alternative means to be explored. And now is the time to reach for
that big, hairy audacious goal as a community. The fact is that unless "it" is
physically impossible, "it" is possible.
Along with many other community members we ask:
What can we accomplish together that none of us can on our own?
What resources (all forms) do we have together?
"We have fallen heirs to the most glorious heritage a people ever received, and
each one must do his part if we wish to show that the nation is worthy of its good
fortune." - Theodore Roosevelt
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335Marilyn P.O. Box 455, This is not a win win situation for these endowment lands. Please do not hand
Olson 890 Timber over control of our local watershed and our community’s future to developers
Ridge, McCall whose bottom line is profit.Thank you for your time and consideration.
336Amy 120 Brook July 8, 2020
CrookshankDrive, McCall,
Mayor Giles and McCall City Council Members –
s=Cooper ID 83638
I am deeply concerned about the possibility that nearly 30,000 acres of IDL
endowment lands north of Payette Lake may be turned over to Trident Holdings
as part of a land exchange.
I first moved to McCall in 2001. I led a local non-profit for many years, and my
husband and I have operated a small business in here since 2017. During the past
19 years I’ve watched and been a part of myriad economic and demographic
changes in our community. I’m not against change nor am I anti-development.
But managed, thoughtful change that incorporates Valley County residents and
their values is paramount.
While I understand the obligation IDL has to produce income from state
endowment lands, selling some of our areas most beautiful and unique parcels
to a company that will then sell them to private owners is unacceptable. The land
Trident Holdings is interested in acquiring would no longer be available for
recreating and enjoyment by many. Instead, they would become exclusive
private holdings, affordable and enjoyed by very few.
Best regards,
Amy Crookshanks-Cooper
337Barbara P.O. Box 2914 In regards to the state of Idaho selling McCall-adjacent public lands to a private
Bancroft 917 Cottage developer: this is a TERRIBLE prospect. So very much of McCall's lifestyle, as well
Court McCall, as that of the rest of the state, centers around being able to have access to public
ID 83638 land. Selling our public lands is selling out the people of Idaho.
338Heidi 2072 East Dear City Council,
Wyman Lakes Road
I strongly oppose Trident’s Proposal to the Idaho State Land Board about a
#530 McCall,
Potential
ID 83638
Swap of Private Timberland for Idaho Department of Lands Endowment Lands in
McCall.
The fiduciary responsibility the board has to the Payette Endowment lands is met
in many ways. McCall-Donnelley school district is one of the best in the state
because of the teachers that are drawn to the beauty and adventure of these
lands. There is value in this. The value of these lands also lies in the tourist
revenue brought to McCall from all over the world. The rich & diverse
community we call McCall is what it is because of these lands. The generations
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of Idahoans that have enjoyed priceless memories camping, hiking, skiing,
snowmobiling, biking, hunting & exploring these endowment lands should not
end with our generation.
If additional revenue is needed from these 28,000 pristine acres I would propose
alternative strategies:
. Add a use fee to the licensing of motorcycles, UTVs, snowmobiles, boats and
vehicles.
2. Offer an annual Endowment pass for purchase.
3. Launch fees could be collected at all Payette boat launches to fund the
endowment lands.
I would also recommend an amendment to the State constitution prohibiting the
sale of these lands for privatization.
n alternative strategy is to offer/ sell these lands to the State Park system and
incorporate them into Ponderosa State Park.
These lands should be kept available for use for generations of future Idahoans.
We can balance growth and progress through the development of private lands
while honoring these endowment lands.
We will never get these back if you sell them and McCall will forever be changed.
Trident may have created a lovely PR campaign; hired True North to lobby and
present a shiny front, dazzled y’all with their preserve McCall website and
mailers.... but ultimately this is a land grab. Wealthy, opportunistic investors
looking to capitalize on one of our state’s biggest gems. Do not let them do it.
Sincerely,
Dr. Heidi J. Wyman, DPT, OCS
339Jay Sampsel1404 Louisa Do Not trust Trident Holdings! I am NOT in favor of their land swap proposal!
Ave, Mccall,
Idaho
340Frankie 21 Crestview I, like many others in our community, stand opposed to the proposed land
Romero Lane, McCall transfer as presented by the Trident group. Instead, I ask that the City of McCall
ID 83638 recommended to the state land board that policy or statute be modified such
that Ponderosa state park and other endowment lands designated as state parks
be protected from this and any future proposed disposal or sale. When Idaho's
legislature directed the land board to aquire the peninsula and adjacent lands
that became Ponderosa state park in 1907, the land board did not have the
ability to sell or dispose of endowment lands, so the intent of the legislature and
the citizens of Idaho at that time was that these endowment lands would be held
in trust permanently without the potential to be sold or transfered. It wasn't
until years later that Idaho law was modified to allow the board to sell
endowment lands that this situation was even made possible, I imagine to the
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dismay and concern of the creators of the state parks. Ponderosa park was not
added to the endowment to maximize school funding, it was created to preserve
the area for the use and enjoyment of all citizens and while it does contribute
proceeds to our schools, it has also become a central attraction that brings
vacationers to our community and fuels our tourist based economy. Loss of the
park would be devastating to the spirit, culture and economy of our city. I ask
the City Council to please represent our community interest by asking the land
board to remove this proposal from further consideration and alter policy or
statute as requested to protect endowment lands designated as state parks
against similar proposals in the future. Thank you.
341Diana Fields910 Yew I grew up in Boise and own property in McCall. I strongly oppose the Trident
Wood proposed land swap. The public campaign (newspaper ad) to persuade locals
Trident is a savior and is doing this to benefit McCall is highly offensive as it seems
to take you (and all of us) as backwoods fools. Clearly this is just a front for
developers who were primed to steal McCall land after the Wall Street Journal
touted the relative low cost and beauty of this special place. Please just say no.
342Matt Brozek 1210 Mica My family and I travel to Payette Lakes every year multiple times for camping. It
Mountain Rd would be a shame to lose access to this land by offering 28,000 acres to a private
entity.
343Stefani 1060 N View Under no circumstances should monetary wealth undermine the limitless value
Patten rd McCall of this land. This is not something that Idahoans will be complacent about. I
Idaho 83638 absolutely oppose the proposal to put the public lands surrounding Payette lake
into the private sector.
344Jeff Barnes 21 Mores I strongly appose the proposal to transfer 28,000 acres of currently public
Creek Rim accessible State of Idaho land surrounding Payette Lake in McCall, ID. The
Road, Boise, proposed deal which would swap timber lands in Northern Idaho into state
Idaho 83716 control in exchange for the 28,000 acres in McCall, which include 40 miles of
lakefront property on Payette and Little Payette Lakes. I am staunchly opposed
to this land swap and privatization.
345Carolyn 21 Mores I strongly appose the proposal to transfer 28,000 acres of currently public
Barnes Creek Rim accessible State of Idaho land surrounding Payette Lake in McCall, ID. The
Road, Boise, proposed deal which would swap timber lands in Northern Idaho into state
Idaho 83716 control in exchange for the 28,000 acres in McCall, which include 40 miles of
lakefront property on Payette and Little Payette Lakes. My husband and I are
staunchly opposed to this land swap and privatization.
346Rylee Olson 1500 Make St, I would like to keep these critical acres of access and wildlife habitat in public
Buhl, ID 83316 hands and not turned over to private property.
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347Julio eiguren 13118 I oppose this swap. there have been massive pieces of land locked up around the
Cameron dr. valley, this crowds recreation into less area as demand is booming. If allowed this
Donnelly will negatively affect the area.
83615
348David Davidlosinski0I oppose the construction of properties here
Losinski @gmail.com
349Jason King 3030 N. State of Idaho: Please stop transferring our valuable public lands and public lands
Maywood Ave, access to private entities. It is no secret that developers covet lakeshore property
Boise, ID like the proposed areas of Payette and Little Payette Lakes. Gated communities,
83704 gates across public access roads and more urban flight are not what your
constituents deserve. Save our public lands please!
350Robert D 210 Monica St. All public land should remain public land, no is going to make more of it. Please
Wilson appose and sell or trade.
351Marilyn 2037 Warren I want to urge the McCall City Council to oppose Trident Holdings' proposed land
Bickle Wagon Rd.; exchange. As Valley County and the rest of Idaho deal with the current onslaught
McCall, ID of growth, it is imperative that you, the first line of local defense, keep the
greater good in mind. Please do everything possible to keep our public lands in
public hands! This land exchange would be another privatization disaster for the
people of McCall and Idaho.
352James 721 Lick Creek I am opposed to any land swap that doesn’t preserve the McCall proposed land,
Giuffre Rd McCall in question, in perpetuity. All of this land is currently open to the public and
Idaho needs to remain so...all of it. Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
353Cole Bleke 1435 E 700 N Please don’t let someone take gorgeous piece of land and ruin its beauty by
locking it up and building homes. Keep this land open for all to enjoy!
354Philip Jahn2720 Old I strongly oppose this proposed transfer of State lands into private ownership. It
White Bird Hill sickens me to think of the potential loss of public access that make this part of
Rd,
Idaho unique.
Grangeville, ID
83530
355Jon Kollmar 58 Salmon I don’t believe trading this land to a private land owner is the answer. We have
Loop McCall, all seen what happened last time. What makes you think it will be different this
Id 83638 time around, when it never is. Learn from our history please.
356Simon 708 1/2 West Regarding the potential land swap with Trident LLC. I'm upset this is even being
Barnes Hays street considered. I admit that I haven't done all the research I probably should, but it
Boise ID 83702 disgusts me that so much public land would be sold for development. Idaho is
becoming more and more desirable (or at least more people know about it) and
the idea that we're just going to sell out some of the best parts of it to the highest
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bidder is sickening. Maybe I just didn't realize that I needed a few million dollars
to buy a house on the lake in order to get to enjoy it...
357Andy Ward 10497 Lake I would encourage the McCall city council to go on record to be opposed to this
Shore Dr. exchange. This land is one of the reasons people come to McCall.
Nampa, Id.
Keep over 28,000 acres of currently accessible state land surrounding Payette
83686 Lake and Little Payette Lake in public hands!
Trident Holdings LLC of Boise has submitted a proposal to privatize and develop
over 28,000 acres of publicly accessible state lands surrounding Payette Lake, in
exchange for timberlands elsewhere. This proposal threatens a large intact tract
of fish and wildlife habitat that provides some of the best public recreational
opportunities in the state, in addition to jeopardizing this important source of
clean drinking water. Divestiture of resources that have significant cultural,
ecological and scenic values does not provide for the best interests of the public
trust. Generations of Idahoans have retreated to the pristine water and shores
of Payette Lake to boat, fish, camp, hunt, pick berries or simply to marvel at their
surroundings. Without action, these experiences and scenic vistas could be
permanently replaced by large trophy homes and extensive residential
development. Mule deer and elk migration corridors will be dissected by new
roads, driveways and increased disturbance. Trident’s development proposal
could allow development on up to 40 miles of lakefront property on Payette and
Little Payette Lakes and several miles along the North Fork of the Payette.
Thank you.
358Barr P.O.Box 4335 No on the land exchange. For to many reasons to list here. The primary one is
Quarton McCall ID. greed!
83638
359Kalen 211 Birch I oppose the Trident Holdings development.
Boland Lane,
Donnelly, ID
360Brent Frame 9396 W Mirror I am writing in opposition to the privatization of land around Payette and Little
Pond Dr, Payette lakes. Development around these lakes will destroy the beauty. These
Boise, ID lakes are too small to handle more development.
83714
361Andrew 232 Potter As a citizen of McCall I urge you to block the Trident land swap.
Keck Lane, McCall
Recreation on, and access to public lands is, in my mind, paramount to what
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makes McCall, McCall. We've all seen what happens when public accesses
become embedded in private holdings and as a general rule, the outcome is not
good. Please consider the economic benefits of recreation before making this
important decision. More and more research is showing that recreation is just
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as much of an economic driver as real estate these days. Especially as more and
more areas succumb to privatization.
Also, as a renter trying to buy a home in McCall, I have watched housing market
become inflated by vacation homes and second-home owners. I acknowledge
that these home owners and vacationers provide an important economic pillar
to McCall. However, at some point, there is a loss of community when full-time
residents are pushed out of, or can never conceivably enter the housing market.
I think instead of focusing on more high-end vacation homes, which will continue
to perpetuate this problem, the city should shift its sights to more reasonable
housing options. I have watched this trend continue, unchecked, in many others
towns in which I've lived (Vail, Co, Leadville, Co, Crested Butte Co. Moab, Ut.) I
find the outcome is not desirable for the people who've been instrumental in
making the community "what it is;" the soul of the community if you will. Please
don't let this happen to one of the last hold-outs in the West.
All the best with the decision. I trust it will be made in a fair, well-thought out
manner.
Andy
362Karla Miller 1581 Mile Please count me as opposed to the land land exchange proposed by Trident
High Drive Holdings LLC.
McCall, ID
83638
363Eric Ludovic 1776 Im very much opposed to the 28,000 acre land swap in McCall. As a public land
roseberry rd owner living in Idaho my entire life and enjoying these resources responsibly w/
Donnelly id family and friends id hate to see more land inaccessible and privatized in the
Donnelly/McCall area. We've already lost too much to Texas.
Respectfully,
Eric Ludovic
364Dale P.O. Box 273 Failing to protect public lands in McCall is failing the people who have built and
Peterson New Meadows called the community home. This land swap would effectively destroy the history
ID 83654 and personality of the town.
365Michael 1990 NW 12th I would like to provide comment that firmly opposes the state land exchange of
Lipps Street over 28,000 acres surrounding Payette Lake for timberland near Orofino. The
Meridian state land surrounding Payette Lake provides fantastic fishing and camping to
Idaho 83646 many Idahoans who don’t have the ability to buy a second home. It would be a
tragedy if this beautiful land was developed and closed off to the public. This
area already has plenty of development. I personally recreate in both areas and
know them both well. This exchange simply does not benefit Idahoans. We need
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more public land in the McCall area closer to where more people live. More
public land in Orofino does not benefit most Idahoans.
366Cameron 10850 W. Please, no land swap to give up the 28,000 acres to a private entity! This state is
CravenGreyling Ct. growing to fast. Idaho is great because it has less people, more open space and
Boise, Id better opportunities to fish, hunt and recreate. Keep it that way.
83709
367Keith 660 S You should not let this happen. What make McCall a beautiful place is the
Schuttler Waterton wilderness that surrounds this mountain town. If you allow privatization of these
Eagle, ID lands to be developed it will this away. This is part of what attracts people to
83616 visit. People don't want to come to McCall to see a bunch of homes, but to see
what is there.
Once you let it go you cannot get it back.
368Jeffrey 136 kens place Please use the utmost common sense and discretion when giving public land
Baker away for ANY reason. Ask ALL the questions and get ALL the answers.
369Kendall 2155 S Ridge I realize that the proposed land swap could be a lucrative deal; however, Idaho
Rader MD Point Way, has always been a state of incredible, public access, scenery. We love our state.
Boise, ID We love what makes this state different. We love what makes this state
83712 beautiful. Please don’t take this away.
370Nathan 7040 W. To allow this land to be sold to private owners would do exactly what happened
Owen Ambleside Dr to the land the the Wilks brothers bought. Limited land access to families and
Boise Idaho recreationalist’s. I’ve been recreating in the areas proposed since I was a little
83709 boy, just my like my father did before I was born. These public lands are what we
love about Idaho and why we live here.
371Thomas 5624 N To Whom it May Concern:
TreinenPortsmouth
I was disappointed to learn about the potential for a land swap involving public
Ave, Boise, ID,
land near Payette Lake involving Trident LLC. I think the proposal is a horrible
83714
idea and shouldn't even be considered. This prime land should be preserved and
cherished as public lands for the enjoyment of all. Regards, Thomas Treinen
372Richard 321 Heikkila I am very concerned about the proposed state land exchange. The only way to
Skinner Lane, McCall be sure these lands remain for the benefit of out children and grandchildren is
to keep the ownership in governmental ownership. This also allows for much
easier public input o future use and better transparency.
373Daniel Ciani 936 E Carter My family opposes the proposed land swap of 28,000 acres around Payette Lakes
St, Boise, in McCall, Idaho. We need to keep public lands in public hands. There are plenty
Idaho, 83706 of over developed lake shores in Idaho, please keep this as-is. We enjoy the lakes
every summer and it is nice that there is public land around a lot of Payette Lake
and it is not over developed. Additionally, two summers ago we spent four days
at Little Payette Lake campground. It was great to have a quiet place to camp
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with our family. We really enjoyed our time there and fear that it would not be
the same if it became private. Please keep this land as part of the State of Idaho
so all can enjoy!
Thanks,
Dan
374Larry Baxter769 Upper As a property owner along the St Joe River near Calder, Idaho I have seen first
Rock Creek hand the negative effects of public land swaps. I am adamantly opposed to the
Road, inkom, trade of 28000 acres of state land near McCall for northern Idaho forest land.
Idaho 83246 This sounds like a very bad deal for the people of Idaho.
375Martin 280 Buckcamp I do not want to see anymore of our public lands taken away from us! We all live
Thiede Jr. Ln. McCall ID, here in McCall so we can enjoy and be out in these areas! We are loosing access
83638 to some of the most beautiful parts of our state and it is flat out wrong what is
happening! Please stop our lands from being taken away from us and help us
preserve our great state for future generations!
376Hunter 2240 S Sumac Recreating on public lands in the McCall area has been something I have been
Brodt St. Boise, ID doing for more than half my life. Keeping this land open will ensure that my kids
83706 and grandkids have the same opportunity to enjoy the one of the most scenic
areas of the state unfeddered by potential restritions
377Mark 4660 E 267 N. This is flat out a bad deal for the public. We are losing precious good land. Just
DeHaan Rigby ID 83442 so developers can get rich. And the public gets the shortens of the deal again.
Please don't do this.
378Ben Romans 13149 W. Pala Some things are worth more than money, and if approved, the Trident Holdings'
Mesa Drive land swap would be a tremendous loss for all Idahoans. Please do not approve
it. Vote no.
379Joyce 4660 E 267 N. Please do not do the land swap. This precious undeveloped lakeshore will be lost
DeHaan Rigby ID 83442 forever and will be replaced by development. There already is enough
development available in other places. Please keep this lake beautiful AND
Public!
380Caleb 1303 Louisa Transferring the public land to private stake holders around the Payette lake is
Strough Ave McCall, ID theft to the public. Only a few interest groups gain anything from the public land
transfer. It degrades the wild and scenic lake that makes McCall great, it also
takes away from wildlife and recreation. Let’s keep it public, find better solutions
to make it useful to the state, and cherish it for future generations to come
instead of development. If this continues to happen there will be few wild places
left in Idaho at the pace of development occurring.
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381Willow P.o. box 777 I have lived in McCall my whole life. One of the many attributes of McCall that
Cogan makes it such an amazing place to live is its public land. I have watched as areas
that I utilized throughout my childhood have been sold and privatized and made
unavailable to the public. I am sick and tired of people coming from out of town
(or out of state) and buying up the land that our community shares. It is not fair
to me, who has grown up in McCall, or to my future children. I want my children
to be able experience McCall in the same way I did as a child. If this privatization
is to continue, my children will not be able to grow up in the same McCall that I
was able to. This saddens me deeply. I know I speak for my community when I
say that we need to keep McCall’s land public. Please help us keep this land
public. Thank you.
382Sam Moore2501 E Tybalt Being an avid outdoorsman where my family and friends enjoy so many parts of
Dr Meridian our great state I strongly urge you to find another option than to swap our public
Idaho 83642 land to Trident. If you look at the countless examples in other states where
beautiful lake shores where developed all you see is empty 2nd, 3rd and 4th
vacation homes for out of state families. In turn this limits everyone’s access to
this land. Even with the promises of maintaining public access this will either be
limited or eventually disappear over time. I would hate to see these areas that
have been around for generations be dissolved and changed forever for the
generations to come. McCall and Payette lake how it is will be a distant memory
and replaced with even more crowded roads, $100 meals and $20 drinks. Let us
find a better way that maintains what we all love about Idaho, McCall and
Payette Lake.
383Terri Ham 1253 n Please do not sell off and privatize more of our dear public lands!
Cabrillo Ave
Kuna ID 83634
384Martin 280 Buckcamp 1.Article IX, Section 8 of the Idaho Constitution mandates that state endowment
Thiede Ln. McCall ID, trust lands are to be managed to secure the maximum long-term financial return
83638 to the endowment beneficiaries. Manage by definition does not constitute
"SELLING" of State endowment lands. Selling Endowment Lands is literally the
opposite of managing it and seems to be in violation of the Idaho Constitution.
2.The city of McCall has been built around recreation and access to forests lands
within a short distance from town. If this land is sold and becomes private, the
Public will lose many of the primary access points to the National Forests, and
will cause congestion in the few remaining access corridors. The vastness and
the ability to recreate with minimal congestion is what makes McCall and Valley
County desirable and different from Tahoe and Park City. If this land is sold, the
lack of access will negatively impact the local economy and depreciate the
property values. What good is a beautiful area if it doesn't have the ability to
sustain itself because the major source of commerce is no longer available due
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to a land trade. This seems like a situation of Inverse Condemnation by the State
of Idaho to the property owners. This is especially true for the property Owners
that directly border the property being disputed. One day they have the ability
to Market their Property as "Bordering Public Lands" and the next day they
cannot. Has the IDL and Trident Holdings factored the required "just
compensation" for impacted property owners into their cost analysis?
3.The Public School Fund contribution from Endowment land accounts for only
3.7% of the total Public School Fund and the 28,000 Acres being discussed would
be responsible for less than 1.4% of the total 3.7% (~$519,000). It seems
disingenuous to suggest that selling this land is in the best interest of the Public
Schools when boosting commerce in the local economy will yield the largest
contribution to the schools. 49.3% of the Public School Fund is generated
through State funding compared to the 3.7% generated by Endowment lands.
The more that the ability for recreation is maintained, the more money our
businesses and residents will make, which directly increases the money being
generated for the Public Schools. It seems that the revenue from recreation is
sustainable; whereas, the trees will inevitably be logged and then the State is left
with bare; non desirable land that isn't in close enough proximity for the majority
of Idaho's population to enjoy on a regular basis (IE: Treasure Valley and
Southern Idaho).
4. What is the valuation of both of the subject properties? I am making the
assumption that the land around Payette Lake is far more valuable than with
regards to the bare land, excluding the timber. Is Trident Holding going to
provide bonding that guarantees that the state gets the value in timber that they
stated in their investigation? What about insurance against fire or incidents? Is
the Payette Lake property going to be used as collateral in the event that the
timber sales are not as beneficial as estimated? What systems does the IDL have
in place to ensure that this is a mutually beneficial trade, that isn't going to hurt
the State financially?
5. The City of McCall and the rest of Valley County should be afforded the
opportunity to vote on this and potentially implement a local tax to keep this as
Public Land before it is traded to a Private Entity in a backdoor deal. Why is this
being put in place during a worldwide pandemic! Any local and state elected
officials that have been working on this behind the distractions of Covid19 should
be ashamed of themselves and are not doing what is in the best interest to their
constituents or the great State of Idaho.
385Fritz 1035 E. This is in regards to the Transfer of 28,000 acres of my "public" lands on the
Brownell Shepherd St. Payette Lakes. I am adamantly opposed to this swap/transfer. These lands have
Meridian, been utilized by myself and family for recreation purposes for three generations
Idaho 83642 and hopefully will be by my descendants for another 3 generations. This is an
emotional topic for my family and one that is associated with a bit of rage. I work
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in the development sector and can foresee the impact of residential
development of these lands. I realize the Land Board will have jurisdiction of this
proposed transfer. I have no faith in their wisdom in this matter. I pray that the
presentation to the Council will be met by the residents of Valley with strong
opposition. I appreciate the opportunity to voice my concerns.
386Zane Hardin 1762 N. Looking forward to listening to the presentation today.
Snowfield Pl
Kuna Id 83634
387Isaac iflanzy@gmail.McCall and Payette lakes must REMAIN public and open to public access. It is the
Flanzbaumcomland of the people, not the land of those with too much money. Get out of here
with your "we'll keep it open but still own it" comments, no one believes that.
388Ed Elliott1840 Warren I am a third generation Idahoan and my wife and I have been permanent
Wagon Rd., residents of McCall for 45 years. We are adamantly opposed to the 28,000 acre
McCall, Idaho land exchange being proposed by Trident Holdings. Please, City Council, formally
express your unequivocal opposition to this unconscionable proposal.
Thank you, Ed and Sally Elliott
389Troy Knapp3841 S W 2nd My short and simple thought: Keep the land public. PLEASE !!!
Ave., New
Plymouth,
Idaho 83655
390Sean 370 E Ranch Rich punks off
Dockweiler Dr
391Paul Jozwik4499 N Cedar Please!!
View Lane
Boise Idaho No to public lands transfer
83704
Thank you!!!
392Whitney whitney.cianiI opposes the proposed land swap of 28,000 acres around Payette Lakes in
Ciani @gmail.com McCall, Idaho. Idaho is unique in the quantity and quality of public lands. This
area is a treasured place for our family - we camp here every summer. There are
plenty of developed lake shores in Idaho, we do not need more around Payette
Lake. Please keep this land as part of the State of Idaho so all can enjoy!
393James Zokan 1401 Regarding Trident Holding Proposal AB20-198:
Roosevelt
Has Trident talked with the Tribes about this proposal?
McCall, ID
83638
Will Tribes have the same rights as they do now on State lands?
Will their be a NEPA like process in place to ensure the correct environmental
protection occurs and public concerns will be addressed?
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394Rachael 2295 Price As a member of the public, I sincerely oppose this proposition. Both Payette Lake
Barry Valley Rd, New and Little Payette Lake are extremely special to the McCall area and potentially
Meadows, ID parceling off the area for private use would gas seriously detrimental effects on
83654 recreation around these places. Please keep keep these resources available to
the public.
395Paul Turner 11477 Look at what the Wilks brothers have done to our great state, shutting down
Hiawatha, access to lands that my father, grandfather, and I used to enjoy!
Boise, ID
Don’t steal our public lands from us by letting the rich get richer! Our future
83709
generations deserve the bounty of the land!
396Spencer Hill 2806 n Keep these critical acres of access and wildlife habitat in public hands!
McKinney St.
397Brian Scott 2050 Brixton Our State needs to stand by its commitment to its citizens. NO land swaps to the
Crosby Pl. Meridian wealthy. NO restrictions on what is public owned land. We must STOP putting
Idaho our state owned lands on the auction block, simply because we lack the
backbone to fund the maintenance of them.
The loss of the Payette Lake leases, previously, to the wealthy makes me ILL!
398Reed Morse 13233 Perch Keep Idaho public. We do not trust private developers. Public lands have the
Ct, Donnelly, force of law to keep them public. Private ownership WILL exploit the land and
ID 83615 WILL break our trust.
399Nicolette P. O. Box 1087 I am opposed to the sell off of this state owned land to anyone.
Humphries
400Nate Hauder 1971 Lick Access to public lands and the abundance of public land is something that sets
Creek Rd. Idaho apart from many other western states. Moving public land into private
McCall Idaho ownership does not ever work out well for public land users. I think we need to
have a conversation about other options for this land before we look selling or
trading it off. I strongly oppose the Trident land trade.
401Logan Eres288 S. Please keep this land available to the public and wildlife! McCall is one of the
Manville St most beautiful places in the state and it's already getting so developed!
Boise ID,
83705
402Steve 365 Knights Gut instinct tells me this exchange would not be be as good for McCall, Valley
Harkrader Rd., McCall, ID County or the State of Idaho as it would be for Alec Williams and his unnamed
83638 investors. Trident Holdings, formed this January, is not a long tenured
development company, there is no track record. There is no plan. Placing 28,000
acres of land, about half of which forms the majority of the viewshed around
Payette Lake, into the hands of a single vaguely defined private investment group
seems ill advised at best. I am hoping that we citizens of Idaho will find a way to
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put into words just how valuable this land is in its current state. There must be
some measure besides just $$$$ value.
Also of note: after trying to read and understand the Payette Lands Economic
Analysis submitted for review in the meeting packet, I went to the "Smart Forest
Solutions" website hoping to find some background info on the plan they
prepared but only came up with a website that is still being put together. I hope
all of you have had more success translating this analysis than I did.
Please do not express any sort of support for this type of land exchange at this
time.
403Michele 6314 Post St. I am AGAINST the Payette Lake land swap.
Crosby Boise Idaho
83704
404Stephen 5211 N Please do not allow this land exchange to move forward opening up Payette Lake
Veals Parkwood to ugly, unsightly development. Keep it wild and scenic!!!
Street Boise,
ID 83704
405Shannon 1415 East Selling off public land for everyone to use and enjoy, so that a few rich people
Crain Lone Creek can come in and buy it all up? The land should remained undeveloped. We don't
Drive need more of that.
406Bruce 2421 I oppose the proposed land swap at Payette Lake. It is a short-sighted and
Spotleson Confident irreversible change that would forever alter the pristine beauty of the area.
Crest Ct., Payette Lake is a jewel that should be preserved and protected at all costs. Please
Henderson, do not approve this massive potential degradation of Payette Lake.
NV 89052
407Rebecca Boise id My family and I travel to Mccall at least 4 time a year. I can't imagine coming
Hollowayback without access to public lands. I do not trust private developers without a
signed and very specific contract of what they can and cannot do. I can't imagine
Mccall would want to see their tourism dollars drop because of one of their best
assets being taken away for private profits.
408DavidDenning As a McCall resident, I strongly oppose this land swap. One reason many of us
have carved out a life here is access to public lands to recreate.
409Eric Keren 11551 W. Please consider fighting to keep our public lands in public hands. The proposed
Edna St. Boise, sale/transfer of public land to a private entity around Payette Lake would be
ID 83713 detrimental to the animals that inhabit that area as well as those of us that
recreate in the area. I personal hunt/fish regularly in Unit 23 and have for as long
as I've been hunting. My family (and all of our friends) recreate in that area. Yes,
transferring the land to a private entity could generate a lot of money, but at
what TRUE cost. McCall is a tourist destination because of the area and it's public
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access. To restrict generations of outdoorsmen/women would be a shame. Think
of how detrimental this could be for the real future of fish and game species,
timber, wild plants and the general aesthetic beauty and public use of the region.
Thank you.
410Emily 8473 Irie Ln I am against the state swapping the Payette lakes land.
Speakes middleton
Idaho 83644
411Robert 13781 S. No,...disservice to the public who utilize these areas for recreation. If approved,
WittenbergGreybull undesired city growth for this tourist community...which will require expansion
Street, (costs/taxes) of city infrastructure (services/facilities).
Nampa, ID
83651
412Jacob 1995 W I do not approve of this plan. While I do not live in McCall, I do visit frequently.
Newton Mountain This is not a good plan.
Pointe Ave
Nampa, ID
83651
413Morgan 506 Gamble I am strongly opposed to Trident’s proposal. I encourage the City Council to be
Zedalis Rd cautious at best during Trident’s presentation. The information and messaging
paints a conservation-based approach and plan on the surface with what they
would have us believe as altruistic motivations to “Preserve McCall” and it’s
public access. However, the proposal lacks a detailed plan identifying just how
they will execute maintaining public access on some of the more precious lands
for both wildlife habitat and recreational use. The proposal is extremely vague
and is noncommittal in its language, providing wiggle room for the company to
mislead its audiences and have us think this is really a public access conservation
plan and not a development plan.
I would like to encourage the City Council to listen to the extensive opposition to
this proposal from its residents and the broader public that recreates on this
land. I would further encourage the City Council to write a letter of opposition to
the proposal to IDL and to consider the following points:
- Public use and recreational access to the proposed lands provides invaluable
and unmeasurable economic and financial value to the City, County, and State.
So many people come to our home and choose to live in McCall because of the
public land access on State lands surrounding the City. This July 4th is a good
example of just how much that land is valued and used, there we’re hundreds if
not thousands camping, fishing, hiking, and using forms of motorized recreation
on these lands. That picture alone is worth a thousand words. The revenue
generated from this public land access is extensive, although not technically
measured, and contributes greatly to our economy at every level.
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- Taxes and the value of land in Valley County greatly benefits from the greater
environment, recreational opportunities, and amenities this area provides.
Public access on State lands available just outside the City is one reason my
property taxes are high on our humble 1200 square foot 1950s-era home. I’m ok
with this because I enjoy those aspects myself.
The Trident proposal raises a good point for us all right now. It teaches us all not
to take these aspects of our way of life and economic benefits from State land
public access for granted. We need to use this opportunity to ensure that all
28,000 acres are protected for public access and are not developed. Further
recreational revenue can be collected by building the infrastructure for
recreational-use fees. Perhaps a State Park system needs to be imitated or the
land needs to be a part of a Payette Land Trust Idaho Sate Parks cooperative to
protect our public access, wildlife habitat, and the immeasurable economic
benefits we already see from keeping these lands protected.
Thank you for considering my thoughts and representing the best interests of
this landscape for your residents and visitors and not developers.
414Lynn 713 Broken Support should not be given to the state lands proposal at this time. In
lewinski Rein McCall representing our community, the Council should take a strong stand on this
issue.
Briefly, the risk of loss is too high, too dear.
The watershed, of our drinking water, which continues to impact beyond, all the
way to the farms of Emmet.
The night sky, which is already threatened by city development.
The wildlife corridors, habitat of flora and fauna, and immeasurable value to wild
place is threatened to be lost, damaged and destroyed forever.
Greed motivates the lack of experience for such an immense, unpresidented
project.
We need to work together for protection of these lands that will support the
endowment concept, maintain our independence, and preserve our landscape
for perputuity.
415Connie Boyd 101 E Lake St I oppose this land swap.
C17 McCall, Id
83638
416Jacob Cragin 13656 Idaho's public lands belong in Idaho's public hands. This equity firm is not some
Truchard St nonprofit like RMEF looking to purchase land to open access to public lands. If it
Caldwell, will obtain this land it will follow suit of the Wilks brothers in Texas and lock out
Idaho access. This land will get parceled out, sold or developed, and the wildlife
corridor, habitat, and pristine waters will be permanently disturbed. This area is
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an asset is to valuable to all Idahoans for hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, and
general recreation to exchange for other timberland.
417Lynn seibold1210 w As an Idaho native and long time property owner in Valley County, I am strongly
Whitehall dr opposed to selling/trading Idaho Public lands in valley county. Increasing private
meridian ownership will decrease Public access and also increase pressure on roadways
idaho and overused infrastructure. If the land swap is considered a requirement for
Trident holdings to build a new road and infrastructure from boise area into
valley county must be included at their expense.
418Cole 10314 TUNER STOP!!!!
Olson10314Dr Middleton
83644
419Jonathan 3373 Willow I am writing in opposition to the proposed land swap between Trident Holdings,
McBride Way Twin LLC and the State of Idaho. While I understand this may not be for the McCall
Falls, ID 83301 City Council to decide...I applaud your willingness to hold an informational
session for residents and visitors alike. While I am not a resident of McCall I spend
many days each year hiking, hunting, mountain biking and fishing in and around
McCall...including on the State lands that are in questions here. I sincerely
believe it would be a massive mistake to trade Idaho's public lands to developers
for privatization. The system of State and Federal public land makes Idaho great.
It should not be sold to the highest bidder! Thank you
420Joshua 1607 S Please do not do this. This is a beautiful place that we can not risk the public
Jolley Michigan Ave. losing access to on the "hope" of a private owner to keep it open.
SE, Boise ID
83706
421Kim Barnes 2514 S Meyer Please do not offer any public land to be sold to the highest bidder! I’m an Idaho
St Nampa ID native and I’m really tired of being locked out of public lands that are now owned
83686 by out of state corporations or big money! Little Salmon River access isn’t one
example. Horsethief Reservoir is another example. Please do not allow this to
happen to Payette & Little Payette Lake.
422Cheyenne 2423 E Does McCall really need to join the other beautiful small towns that are being
Brodhecker Spicewood bought up and ruined?
Ave Nampa ID
83687
423Nathan 2923 This would destroy McCall, the lake, and the surrounding wilderness experience
Wilson Montevista Dr. that is the primary reason most of use recreate and own homes in McCall. McCall
Boise ID 83706 is already overpopulated, does McCall really want to be Lake Tahoe? Please do
everything in your power to stop this land swap.
424Nick heiser Nickheiser@hThe people do not want this!!! Vote No and kill the proposal!!
otmail.com
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425Andrew 9275 W As as a native Idahoan, a member of several conversation organizations, and a
Anderson Bienapfl Dr leader in the Idaho Chapter of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers I am writing today
Boise, ID to encourage the council to oppose the land swap being proposed by Trident LLC.
83709 This deal would forever change the landscape in the area, a landscape that has
already been subjected to significant change over the past few decades.
Please oppose this swap and protect the public access of these 28,000 acres for
hunting, fishing and other recreation activities as well as to conserve this
landscape that has so much intrinsic value and is so important to wildlife in the
area.
Respectfully,
-Andrew Anderson
426Nicholas 5555 S, Indigo Transferring these beloved public lands into the hands of private enterprise is an
Carter Pl, Boise, ID unequivocally terrible idea. The idea that government needs to pursue profit
83716 seeking motives to sustain public infrastructure is ridiculous. Government is the
necessary tool to maintain quality of life and enrichment for it's citizens in
endeavors that are inherently not profit seeking.
We can hope and believe that the private enterprise will keep it open to the
public, but we know that will never come to fruition. Should they deem it
unprofitable they will litigate until the cows come home until they get what they
want, at the cost of all Idahoans.
If revenue is the primary driver for this decision, even though it shouldn't be,
then introduce fees, taxes, levies, anything other than losing control of
something to private enterprise whose goals do not at all align with making Idaho
a better place to live and experience. Private enterprise one and only goal is
profit, end of story. Their platitudes will mean absolutely nothing when it comes
to their bottom line. We have seen this time after time after time. It will be no
different here.
427Brigid 304 McBride Re: Trident
Lawrence #205, McCall.
Dear Council Members,
ID 83638
We’ve been here numerous times before - a developer claiming they are doing
something for us. I encourage you to review Trident’s website; Trident is a
private equity firm whose ONLY obligation is to provide maximum return to the
investors. Nothing else. It incorporated in January of this year; no office, no
phone number & no Idaho developments we can review. Why? Because it is a
private equity firm coming from New York. If they truly want to prove to us noble
intentions, they should be given just one parcel. Once they have ALL of it we are
SOL. Just say No!
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Sincerely and respectfully,
Brigid Lawrence
428David 4 Deerwood As a Idaho resident I oppose the privatization of the 28,000 public acres around
Sanchez Dr Payette Lake which Trident Holdings LLC submitted a proposal to privatize.
Thank you
429Stephen 2837 NW 11th In regards to transferring public lands around Payette and Little Payette lake into
Vikla Ave meridian private lands, I think that would be a precedent in the wrong direction, setting
ID 83646 an example that some of our most pristine public lands are "for sale". As an Idaho
resident, one of my favorite places to visit is McCall, hopefully you will do the
right thing and continue to make it a great city.
430Douglas 612 W. The economics of what Trident are proposing don’t make sense without
Rudeen Thatcher overdevelopment of these lands. Please don’t let them do this.
Street, Boise
431Conor 883 E Knoll Ct I do not approve of the privatization of public lands in and around the beautiful
Marcus Eagle, ID town of McCall and Lake Payette. If this land becomes private, it will only be to
the benefit of a few (mostly out of state individuals) and detriment to
generations of Idahoans. It would be a major mistake to give this land to private
hands.
432Joshua 2324 W. Please don't support trading public land.
Purkiss Jefferson St,
Boise ID 83702
433Ryan Battin 1515 w victory I do not approve of the privatization of land around McCall and Payette lake. And
rd also no lives matter till black lives matter.
434Lauren 2315 N 28th St I don’t want to see gorgeous Lake Payette and the surrounding town of McCall
Whipps Boise, ID taken over by private interests. This currently public land should remain in public
hands for Idahoans like myself to continue to enjoy free from restrictions. Any
move towards privatization is a very slippery slope and threatens the rights of
Idahoans to Idaho’s amazing public lands.
435Shane 690 s Keep the land surrounding payette lake in the hands of the public. If you turn
Williams Clearwater ln McCall into the next sun valley you will be losing the support of local residents
#302 boise and idaho tourists. We love our public lands for the freedom of what they offer.
Idaho 83712 Dont make the same mistake as the state of idaho did concerning the wilks
brothers.
436Erinn Della 2209 N Do NOT participate in the land swap. Keep Payette Lake Public Lands PUBLIC
Payette Drive
McCall ID
83638
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437Joshua 575 S. Silver The State of Idaho should not do a land swap with Trident, LLC for the 28,000
Hersel Bow Ave. acres in McCall. This is land that the people of Idaho own and recreate on. As a
Eagle, Idaho person that was born and raised in McCall, along with my entire family we have
83616 enjoyed these lands and need to keep them for our children and grandchildren
to enjoy. This would put a burden on McCall and only add high end homes that
the people of McCall couldn't afford. It is already hard enough to maintain
workers in McCall due to the high cost of living. Idaho listen to the people and
don't sell out forest land.
438Jonathan 10567 E Sims I oppose the Payette Lake state land transfer. I believe this will decrease public
Sorensen Ln access to the lake and land for recreation.
Jonathan Sorensen
439Catherine 5473 Fairfax I am totally against the land trade proposal for lands north of Payette Lake in
Wolf Lane Mccall Idaho. I have lived in Idaho over 35 years. I appreciate progress but not
at the expense of our beautiful environment.
440Leslie 2205 Payette Thank you for considering our comments. The area being considered for
Campbell Drive McCall development is within the McCall Community Payette Lake Watershed and it is
Idaho 83638 certain that any proposed development of this adjacent land would directly
impact the quality of surface water, Lake water, soil and air quality. All would
have detrimental effects on the Payette Lake geographic basin, Payette Lake, the
stream and creeks that enter from the west side of the lake into Payette Lake,
and the lower tributaries such as the Payette River. This land, our natural
resources, are directly related to the quality of life and life that lives here. All
trophic levels within this area, soil organisms, pollinators, fish, birds, fox, bear,
elk, deer, all wildlife including humans, depend upon these resources to survive.
Please also know that our quality of life in commerce whether hunting, fishing,
or tourism depends upon these attributes and qualities that support our ability
to attract and maintain a life style and our livelihoods here in McCall. To change
the ecosystem and community for short term gain would be short sighted and
not be in the best interest of us all. Please consider keeping this land in its natural
form and developing land elsewhere, somewhere where the impacts to our
community would not be so negative, could be more easily mitigated, and serve
the greater good.
Leslie Campbell, Outdoor Science Educator and Leader, Community Member 25
years
441John 1908 Janelle Please consider opposing this proposed land exchange that the State of Idaho is
MontgomerWay proposing. I have many friends who rely on this state land for trail riding, family
y Sandpoint, cabins, and recreation. I am all for restructuring the way state land is leased but
Idaho 83864 dumping it is a mistake.
This land swap would not only be a blow to public access but to the future of the
lake as well. Please take a few examples from North Idaho and feel free to
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research my claims. The state land around Priest Lake was sold out from under
lease holders, now developers are plowing through code violations and putting
that water body at risk. The massive development around CDA Lake and Hayden
Lake have also put in jeopardy the water quality of these lakes. Hayden Lake now
has massive algae blooms that close it to swimming on most years. These blooms
are due to residential pollution from the influx of massive developments on the
lake.
Aside from GUARANTEED development and degradation of water quality, what
will the public get in exchange for some of the most prime property in Idaho? A
bunch of old clear cuts north of Dworshack Reservoir? Seriously? Some of the
finest property in the West for old clear cuts? Is there really anything to consider
here? Look at the google earth images of each parcel, its almost unbelievable
that this is a consideration.
I was born and raised in rural North Idaho and I am a firm believer in Idahos
public lands and waterways and that they contribute heavily to our way of life.
This land swap would jeopardize the Idahoan way of life by paving paradise and
ruining yet another Idaho treasure.
442Nicholas 14146 Please keep lands around Payette Lake public. Too many beautiful public lands
Dewez Jefferson have been handed over to private owners who do not have a true appreciation
Street, McCall, for the land. These land snatchers only have economic interest in the land they
Idaho, 83838 are buying and do not deserve it, while the locals lose even more access to lands
they have truly appreciated and fostered for generations. KEEP PAYETTE LAKE
(AND SURROUNDING AREAS) PUBLIC !!!!!!!
443Brittany 200 N Sunbird Please do not allow the land swap! This area is too beautiful and important!
Seibold Ave Don’t ruin a good thing just so a small handful of people can make money,
PLEASE!! Public access is crucial for a shared experience between all citizens who
want to enjoy the beauty of nature!
444Katrina 3 Ord Blvd This is completely ridiculous. Keep Idaho public.
Taylor
445Russell 998 Spruce The last thing McCall or Idaho needs is to privatize our public lands for
McKinley Way. McCall, development. There are WAY too many people in McCall/Valley County now. The
ID 83638 infrastructure isn’t in place and more people will only turn McCall into a Park City
or Aspen....and we don’t want that.
446Kevin Miley 1006 S. Regarding the topic of Trident holdings purchasing of 28,000 acres of land; As an
Shoshone avid outdoor adventurer I have respectfully and passionately explored this are
Boise Id 83705 for my entire life. It would would be sad to see that once again Idahos values and
treasures can be sold to the highest bidder. Once land passes from public to
private hands it’s gone, even if in some cases it takes a little time for the public’s
eviction to be finalized. Do not believe any lies about maintaining public access.
It is directly contradictory to the ends of private land ownership and
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development. Do not give an inch on this, because you will lose it all and you will
never, ever get it back.
447Jeff Knisley 10749 W I think this land exchange is not in the best interest of the people of the state of
Reutzel Drive, Idaho. Selling public lands so that developers can make money at the expense
Boise, Idaho of the general public is ill advised. Please choose the right thing and do not let
83709 greed rule the day. Put the public’s interest first.
448Kimberly 415 South Regarding : Developer, Trident Holdings - proposal to the State Land Board about
Apperson Samson Trail, a potential swap of private timberland for IDL endowment lands in McCall.
and Joseph McCall ID
Baugh 83638 We are extremely concerned about this proposal by Trident Holdings. We urge
the McCall City Council to consult with the Idaho State Land Board about impacts
such a transaction will have on our community's infrastructure and environment,
which likely would be large and negative. The Land Board is bound to maximize
profits for the Idaho School Endowment Fund and the timber and grazing lands
around McCall and the Payette Lakes are managed for longterm profits, while
also protecting our watershed. The public's access to these lands, while never
guaranteed, has long been a valued amenity in our community. It is our
understanding that Idaho State Lands Department has ample funds to outright
purchase additional endowment lands. Trading lands to fulfill their mission is not
necessary. The incidental use of these lands for public recreation is ever-
increasing and we would urge the Land Board to consider embracing this use as
something the public could help pay for. We would gladly pay an annual fee to
be able to continue to get to our favorite berry picking and snowshoeing spots
on our state-owned lands.
We do not trust the elaborate promises made by Trident Holdings. Once in
private hands, Trident can break any and all promises they may make for public
access and limits on development. Ask any land use attorney in Idaho.
449Beth 914 Thank you for taking the time to listen to the public on this important topic. I
KochevarStrawberry have extreme concerns and reservations about the land swap that Trident has
Lane McCall, proposed. I live in McCall almost exclusively because of the access to public
ID 83638 lands, such as those currently managed by IDL in the proposed swap.
The plans Trident has revealed are much too vague to be taken without serious
scrutiny. Although I understand that under Idaho law the state must put its lands
to highest monetary use, but the process of land appraisal has so far been
insufficient. Why was Trident allowed to do their own land appraisal? This should
be done by a third neutral party. Why has Trident made its partners sign NDA's
about the specifics of their development plan? This seems shady to me and
against their claim of transparency and public involvement.
I also wonder why the IDL lands in this proposed swap are needing to change
hands now? If Trident had not approached the state, would there even be a
conversation about privatizing these lands at all?
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Bigger questions about Idaho's Land Grant heritage also come into play here-
why does the funding of our education and infrastructure depend on the
exploitation of the Land that sustains us? Perhaps this law is a part of the reason
we are 49th in the nation for education and it is time that our state (starting with
our local cities and counties) revisit how our education system is funded and
supported culturally and financially. There is no "either, or" when it comes to
the conservation of the Land that we all rely on and the education of our youth.
This should be a "both, and" situation. I know these questions are better suited
for the State Land Board meeting, and I plan to pose them there, too.
We must brainstorm an alternative to the proposed land swap. Can IDL remain
managers of part of the land while other parts are put in easement or protected
by local Land Trusts, trails organizations, and other community members? There
are already large swaths of Valley County and McCall lands that are zoned for
development where lots sit vacant and block public access- why not prioritize
these existing areas for development rather than continue to apportion new
public lands for privatization? I also understand that a large amount of the land
in this proposed swap is not in McCall City limits, and therefore we will also need
to have conversations at the County level about the future of our Land. Please
look at Trident's plan with a critical eye. I value our community, our Land and our
youth, and truly believe we can do better than privatizing our shared spaces.
450Shawn 530 W Cagney I oppose of privatizing these lands or transferring the said control of to any entity
Meinen St Meridian other than the State of Idaho.
451Lori 3464 West The swap of 28,000 pristine, lake and river adjacent lands is not in the long term
Banducci Mountain best interests of McCall residents and the thousands of people who visit
Road annually. Much of the attraction of this area is precisely because there is still
pristine, wild and incredibly beautiful land surrounding the lake. This land should
remain public and undeveloped. Our creative energy should be focused on ways
to keep this land. in public hands. Our children and grandchildren benefit from
the preservation of this land.
452RebeccaSpencer Public land needs a public vote. As a real estate expert I can say without
hesitation that any proposed land swap by a for-profit entity is for monetary
motive. They would not propose it unless they were going to make a substantial
profit from the swap. Private profit on public land assets is not justified or
responsible management of public assets. If the land is swapped there will be
no going back, or do-overs. This needs to be done with care, time and public
vote. There need to be covenants which protect natural habitat, sustainable
harvesting, and workforce housing provisions. There needs to be public
compensation from any profit gained from resource extraction or real estate
development on these lands at a higher fiscal and environmental return share
than the private entity proposing the land swap. If they give land in exchange
they will need to additionally give annual profit share to the public entities and
provide quarterly audited financial publications to the public. There were
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endowed lands which bears witness to the value and call for careful management
on behalf of the public and natural habitats. If these lands are swapped all control
will be lost and no accountability for the future of these public spaces. Do the
right thing, the hard work, and form a public/private partnership to determine
how these lands should be governed.
453Jacob 4793 N. Villa Please don’t privatize public lands, one family benefits from the property while
Sternberg Ridge Way, millions lose it.
Boise , ID
83703
454Catherine 1002 N 19th Absolutely oppose the proposed land swap for the City of McCall. This would
Jonakin ST Boise ID have a huge impact on the outdoor recreation that the people of McCall and
83702/ 1016 their visitors have come to know and love.
Northview
McCall ID
455Travis 610 S. Wilson Keeping Idaho lands will retain the value of our lakes and streams
Stevens St.
456Brian Valle180 Cindy Ct. Privatizing vast acres of public land around McCall is not good for the community
McCall Idaho of McCall. It is these natural resources that attract people to visit the area.
83638 Tridents proposal is too vague to have any confidence that their conservation
efforts are of value. Public access is critical to these lands. There is not enough
info on their development plans. The State Land Board must thoroughly vet this
plan. Be mindful that this is a private enterprise making the proposal and their
interest is for their own gain and the offsets to the community should be viewed
with suspicion. The details will reveal the benefits for the developer, the state,
and the local community. But it's hard to see how removing vast acreage from
public holdings will benefit the local community.
457Jennifer 325 Resseguie I am writing to voice my opposition to the proposed land exchange by Trident
Robbins St Boise Idaho for the Payette Lake and River area. Given the agressive and bullying manner in
Smith 83702 which the Trident representatives are behaving, I do not know why anyone
should believe that they intend to keep this land for public use. McCall has
become more and more crowded in recent years, and additional housing
anddevelopment would only add to this congestion. It would absolutely detract
from the peace of the area. It would also be detrimental for wildlife and natural
landscape that so many people travel to the area to enjoy. All in all, despite what
Trident is arguing this is a bad deal for Idahoans.
458Bruce 1607 Davis RE Trident Proposal: First let me say that I am not anti development, but this
Rumbaugh Ave PO Box proposal just reeks of yet another pie in the sky," don't worry we are here to save
3183 McCall, you" development scheme like Valbois/West Rock/Tamarack or Midas Gold.
ID 83638 Trident is after all an investment firm who's primary purpose is to maximize
profits for their investors. The bottom line will always be the bottom line despite
all their thinly veiled assurances. I cannot stress enough that the City Council as
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well as the County Commissioners and the Land Board need to approach this
very very slowly and cautiously and listen very carefully to ALL comments, ideas
and counter proposals to insure that the very best interests of ALL local residents
and those who visit to recreate are safeguarded. This is a BIG Deal!! Thank you
for the opportunity to comment and please remember who you represent.
Sincerely, Bruce Rumbaugh Long time (35 year) resident of McCall.
459Chris Smith 24 Bailey Please reject the proposal for the land swap in the McCall area. My family has a
Ridge Garden cabin up there and have spent every summer up there since I was born. Not only
Valley Idaho is this a horrible deal as far as land value but I think more importantly it’s a
83622 horrible deal for the citizens of the McCall area as well everyone who uses the
land to recreate on. We have recently seen what privatization of land has done
to our state. These people block access to lands that we have a right to use.
Please help keep McCall beautiful so many future generations can love it as much
as I do
Thank You
Chris Smith
460Toni 1635 Mayor Giles and Members of the City Council
Slaymaker Lakeridge
Regarding Trident Holdings proposed land exchange: Please do everything in
Drive, McCall,
your power to stop the acceptance of this proposal. Our pristine wilderness areas
Idaho 83638
are one of the most unique and appreciated attributes of McCall and Payette
Lake. They are priceless and should be respected and preserved for all.
Toni Slaymaker
1635 Lakeridge Drive McCall, Idaho 83638
461John 108 Magnetic I am opposed to any of the Idaho Endowment Lands surrounding McCall and
Humphries Rock Rd. PO Payette lakes being sold, leased or traded for development.
Box 1087
McCall, ID
83638
462Lauren 2402 Ona St Keep Payette Lakes 28000 acres in PUBLICS HANDS! I beg you not to accept the
Adams Boise Idaho proposal from Trident Holdings. This land is near and dear to my heart and many
of my family and friends. This is such a special area in Idaho that needs to remain
open to the public.
463Ryan Brevik Ryan.brevik@Keep public lands open to the public. The goal for privatization of these lands will
gmail.com not allow the public to use these lands. It is simple. This has already happened in
the Boise National Forrest with gates on public roads and hindered access to the
public lands. Be on the right side of history, the people’s side, is he public’s side.
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464Vonette 2141 N This land swap is not good for the lake or the people of Idaho. Please keep the
McKague Kenmere Drive lake and land as they are. The trade off is not worth the loss. Thank you.
Meridian,
Idaho 83646
465James Valle 180 Cindy I was born and raised in McCall and have spent most of my 30 years living in the
Court McCall, area. McCall is a truly special place and is made so primarily by our access to
ID 83638 public lands and our community.
Since moving back to McCall in 2017, I've seen the area change in ways that pain
me: the sale of public lands (Wilks brothers), the explosion of second home
development from extremely wealthy outsiders, and the loss of housing due to
"short term vacation rentals." The possible Payette Lakes land endowment swap
with Trident holdings is another installment in the ongoing saga of decisions and
developments that threatens to erode the magic of McCall. I am deeply opposed
to the land swap.
McCall, and Idaho in general, has entered a phase of seemingly limitless growth.
It can be challenging during such times to understand the consequences of
decisions. Everything is happening so fast and there is money to be made. If this
land deal goes through, I fear we will look back with regret in the years to come.
I'm fully aware endowment lands are meant to "maximize profits" but there are
certainly other solutions to the problem than selling off our lands. I urge the
council, the IDL, and all other governing bodies to pursue a different course of
action to protect and conserve our lands.
466Katie Scaggs 1912 Colorado Public land must remain public land. Developers exist to make a profit. We
ave cannot trust that private owners will preserve the land or public access. Idaho is
a wonderful place to live, in part because of the large range of recreational
opportunities available. The love and stewardship of our public lands is part of
what makes us Idahoans. Don’t turn your back on our wilderness, our home, to
make money from some rich developers looking to use our land to increase their
wealth.
467Charles 14078 Morell Greetings,
Bluth McCall, Id
Based on Trident's mailer recently sent out, other sources of information, and
most importantly my personal experience, I am and will remain 150% opposed
to this Land exchange. Any reference to land trusts, conservancies, and the like
means that with 100% certainty there will be closures, restrictions, and
eliminated access.
Trident, in everything they have put out there, keeps focusing on the Idaho’s
requirement to provide maximum return for schools, and through omission,
downplays or avoids talking about the Long Term caveat of the requirement. The
Idaho Constitution states the lands must provide the “maximum long-term
revenue to the Normal School Endowment” If allowed what long term revenue
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will be realized. It will only be a short term infusion that will undoubtably be
squandered. Once the money is gone, Then what?…..
For Trident to suggest the land is unprofitable is another attempt to blur the
truth. These lands are unprofitable due to complete mismanagement. The
revenue potential of these lands is 10 fold of current revenue if proper
management was demanded. Government is the only Business like entity not
designed to make or save monies. Government is solely designed to spend…….
And Trident is attempting to cash in on the mismanagement.
I have had a lot of conversations with many many people, in many States.
Everyone complains about California and those who relocate from there. The
response has been the same…. Welcome to but please do not bring a California
attitude, yet these types of shenanigans are exactly how California has been
operating for decades and why Public access to land has been quickly and quietly
disappearing at an unprecedented rate. To top it off, other Western States have
been following suite i.e Nevada, Oregon, and Washington…………… Look at
them…. Total disasters..…
You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig. I VOTE NO………………
Regards,
Charles Bluth
468Tad Jones 1324 Boydstun Dear McCall City Council,
Ln, McCall, ID
I am writing in opposition to the Trident Holding’s Proposal to privatize State
83638
Lands around Payette Lake and Valley County. These lands are a limited and
important resource to our community that should remain in public ownership
and control. Let’s please work together to find a permanent solution to protect
these lands for future generations and maintain public ownership and access.
Respectfully Submitted,
Tad Jones
469Scott and PO Box 331, We are adamantly opposed to this proposed land grab which will inevitably
Connie 86 Ilka Lane, degrade and destroy the very values we all hold dear and which historically have
Harris McCall, Idaho defined this area. Please protect Idaho's precious jewel.
83638
470Breya Jasper 20 N Vinson I do not agree with privatization of the proposed lands and it is a resource for all
Street, Boise Idahoans to get out and enjoy nature and the hobbies that come with
ID 83706
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471Theresa 14078 Morell Greetings,
Bluth Rd McCall, Id
Based on Trident's mailer recently sent out, other sources of information, and
most importantly my personal experience, I am and will remain 100% opposed
to this Land exchange. Any reference to land trusts, conservancies, and the like
means that with 100%
certainty there will be closures, restrictions, and
eliminated access.
It would be irresponsible and unfair for any Government entity to support or
push forward this profit driven agenda.
Trident will be the only ones who truly benefit, both short term and long term.
Theresa Bluth
472Ted Netz 12916 Dawn Have we not had enough of selling our public access land to private parties? Look
Dr, Donnelly what happened when the texas boys stepped in. Now 70% of West Mountain
Idaho and Council Peaks is private owned with gates barring access to many places
people grew up being able to freely access. Sad this state is choosing a quick
money grab over our future. These people will not hold to their word when they
say they “hope” to keep it public.
473Paul Rush8114 s Topaz Public lands are by definition public. Switching to private ownership is the
Ridge, Bose id opposite of preserving public lands.
83716
Development will cater to wealthy landowners from out of state. I hope the city
council will resist the temptation to be hoodwinked by the developers follow
promises regarding access. Keep public lands public; Idaho for Idahoens.
474Erika 2512 S The beauty and uniqueness of Idaho resides in its public lands. PROTECT THAT.
Warner Ormond street
475Elizabeth 22 Meadow I urge the City Council to work together with the Idaho Wildlife Federation on
Caton Lark Circle, solutions to maximize the value of the lands in question for the state while
Idaho City, ID keeping the lands PUBLIC for all future generations to come.
83631
476Jeff 105 Brundage I am writing to express my strong opposition to exchanging 28,000 acres of
Mousseau View Ct, endowment lands managed by the Idaho Department of Lands (IDL) in the McCall
McCall Idaho, area as proposed by to the IDL and Trident Holdings and others in the past. These
83638 lands serve as a fundamental open and wild land resource to the residents of
McCall, Valley County and the State of Idaho and should remain public, protected
under State of Idaho control for perceptuality. In no case should these lands be
liquidated through leasing, exchanging or selling for private ownership.
I watched with trepidation as similar land first owned by Boise Cascade was sold
to multiple timber companies (who all allowed public access), and then in horror
as these same properties including 172.000 acres in Valley County were sold to
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private owners DF Development who then immediately eliminated all public
access to these lands which also blocked access to tens of thousands of
additional acres. This should never be allowed to happen again in Valley County!
Even though Trident Holdings may provide assurances of access and water
quality, the example of DF development demonstrates how management
conditions can drastically change over time. I am asking you to halt any further
consideration of the IDL proposal to move these endowment lands to private
ownership.
I am a lifelong resident of the State of Idaho for the past 61 years and a resident
of McCall for the past 11 years.. I am an avid outdoorsman and extensively use
public managed lands including these endowment lands. There are many others
like me. These lands boarder half of the entirety of McCall; provide prime wildlife
habitat; include waterways and watersheds that are the drinking water supply;
and provide many recreational opportunities from camping to hiking to
birdwatching to wood cutting. Endowment lands are special. When Idaho was
admitted to the Union in 1890, it was granted 3,672,000 acres of land to support
state institutions, primarily the state’s public-school system. The land was
granted under the condition that it be managed in perpetuity as a trust for the
beneficiary institutions. For the IDL is to meet its vision of being the premier
organization for trust management and resource protection in the western
United States it needs to focus not only on financial return, but on the long-term
interests of resource protection and using the resource as intended, not
providing it for sale or transfer private development. The McCall endowment
lands should not be for lease, exchange or trade.
Jeff Mousseau, McCall ID
477Kathryn 4011 W. I strongly oppose this plan to privatize land that is meant to be public land. Our
Jeffords Garnet Street sense of community in Idaho revolves around our ability to come together with
Boise ID 83703 friends and family, access bodies of water and wilderness and treat them with
respect. I have reason to believe that any private company would not treat the
land with the same respect, but rather as a development. I acknowledge that
Trident Homes LLC claims that they will only develop 'modestly' and plan to keep
the lands free and open to the public. However, once the ownership is handed
over, there is no way to control the actions of a privately held company. The city
would be better suited to trade the land with a land trust, for example, rather
than a private holding company. Thank you.
478Drucilla 180 Cindy That I’m opposed and that there are other solutions to the issue
liguori Court McCall,
Idaho 83638
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479Sim Tucker 2301 W Leave the land for public enjoyment and recreation. There's to many houses
Curlew Ave around the shore's already. Leave the area for the hunters, anglers and campers
Nampa, Idaho to enjoy.
83651
480Jacob Tindall 22 meadow Please keep public land public. Allof Idaho values McCall’s public land. It provides
lark cir Idaho far greater intrinsic and lasting value than any land sale can provide in monetary
city, Idaho value. IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE.
83631
481Carol Kuehn 1960 lick creek I sit here on Lick Creek Road surrounded by state land. I have lived out on Lick
road McCall Id Creek Road for the past 25 years. I see many people driving out to enjoy our
83648 PO 178 public lands whether it's just walking through the woods gathering berries
Council Id gathering mushrooms just enjoying the sunshine the fresh air or just gathering
83612 their thoughts. During these times, of stay at home due to covid 19, when we do
get an opportunity to get out the wide-open space is so precious to our mental
and physical health. No amount of money from timberlands or the sellout of our
public lands is worth the precious surroundings here in McCall. Don't Privatize!!!
482Casey caseyoconnellI do not support privatization of these state lands. I do support the state ceding
OConnell @gmail.com them into Ponderosa State Park and managing them that way. Increased
camping and recreation opportunities are also a source of sustainable income far
beyond that of any logging operation that would occur on traded-for land, and
would further benefit McCall and Valley County. Please don't let the state move
this land into private hands.
483Daniel Pond4347 N Adams Public Lands is what keeps Idahoans like myself sane in the normal daily routines
St Garden City, of life. It is imperative that the Payette Lake Land Exchange be opposed and shut
ID 83714 down. Privatizing land hurts everyone, except the elite few who benefit from
isolating it from others. Let everyone enjoy this wonderful gem that we have to
share among all Idahoans and visitors.
484Spotleson 2421 Iwas born and raised in Idaho and still own property there. Please do not go
confident through with land swap. There are so many better uses for this land.
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485Benjamin 81 Rogers This proposed plan is reprehensible. I am absolutely appalled that this is even
Smart Lane, McCall under consideration. What is the actual value of these lands to our community
ID 83638 over the long term? There is an argument to be made that the massive
privatization of public lands will dramatically reduce the appeal of our town both
as a tourist destination and as a lovely place to live, and will result in massive
economic consequences over the next 100-200 years.
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486Brian Ward214 Lenora St I believe that the land swap could be disastrous to McCall and it’s residents. I do
McCall,ID not support the swapping
83638
487Sawyer 11050 W. It's becoming increasingly more difficult to utilize public lands in Idaho for
Pearson Garverdale Ln, recreation. I remember as little as 10 years ago there was plenty of space for
Apt 104 Boise, everyone. More recently, this is not the case. There is now less public land
ID 83713 available and more people using it than ever before.
I strongly oppose allowing Trident (or any other investor) to control Idaho lands.
Trident proposes selling the land to "charities or groups" or "to do low-density
cabins". Either of these options will remove the allure of Payette Lake that
Idahoans (and transplants alike) have enjoyed for all these years. I fear that losing
control of this land will inevitably turn Payette Lake into the next Lake Tahoe.
If Idaho is having problems managing these lands, I will gladly do my part to pitch
in. A small toll, parking permit, land use permit or anything of that nature is a
small price to pay in order to maintain unfettered access to our land. These lands
generate a lot of tourist traffic, another great option would be charging tourist
tax within McCall as a whole to remove the burden from the local populous that
I'm sure is struggling with the rapidly increasing cost of living.
488Kenzington 1071 S Dale St, I am a Boise resident who makes frequent trips to the McCall area to enjoy the
Price apt 203, beautiful natural resources that abound there. I enjoy being able to hike during
83706 the day and being a patron of local business in McCall. I am concerned reading
that private investors may be acquiring public land. I do not believe for one
moment that this land will stay open to public access, despite what they may say
now. There is no precedent that this land will remain open. If you allow this to
happen, know that you are allowing the land that Idahoans from all walks of life
know and love, to be acquired and saved by the wealthy few. My future children
will not know the same beautiful nature of the McCall area and I feel confident
that in a decade, we will look back and lament losing what once was. Stand
against this. Let Idaho be beautiful. Let it be for the people.
489Katherine 1913 n 13th st Please keep the publicly owned land that taxpayers have funded and paid to
Reardon Boise Idaho maintain publicly owned. We value nature in Idaho and the voters who hunt will
notice if it is privatized out from under them against their wishes.
490Erika Cobb 237 Ernesto I am a long time Idaho resident and have family who have either owned or spent
Drive, McCall time in the McCall area since the 1950's. I treasure our public lands and the
Idaho and 957 beauty if this region. I plea with you to please stop the proposed land swap by
S Capitola Trident Holdings to acquire 28,000 acres of land around Payette Lake. This will
Way, Boise ID truly ruin our community forever. We can't put up walls and stop all the growth,
but you can stop this! I am a native of Montana and I have seen the lakefront
devastation on Flathead Lake, Whitefish Lake, Sealy Lake and other areas from
out of state development. Our future generations deserve to enjoy the hiking,
biking, lake recreation we all enjoy today. This is not Texas and we don't want
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to be like Texas where there is ONLY private land. As public servants, please do
your part!
491Augusta and 120 Mather Our concerns: 1. We are concerned Payette Lake doesn't have the capacity to
Erica road, McCallsupport significant development around its perimeter and feel a lake water
Laidlaw quality study is needed. 2. We believe much of the less desirable land in the swap
will be used as a bargaining chip to appease local residents by securing it in the
land trust and bolstering claims of granting public access. 3. One of McCall's most
unique qualities as a lake town is that our surrounding hills and mountains are
unadulterated with lights and building development. Only a ski run on the back
side of Brundage scars our terrain. 4. We already are 70% second home residents
in McCall. With the potential development proposed not only will this feel less
of a community, how can we, as a town, support such growth? At present we
struggle to house and meet the needs of our year round population.
492David 7424 W Tobi Keep it public.
Engleman St
493Thomas 1805 e I'm a frequent visitor to McCall and this is a horrifying plan. Selling off public land
Hamilton overland road, is NEVER in the best interests of the public. Please don't ruin an Idaho treasure.
meridian Idaho is not for sale!
Idaho 83642
494Ingrid Burica 311 Heikkila Keep public lands public. Idaho State Lands surrounding McCall should NOT be
Lane, McCall, swapped with a private investor because then the public has no control over
ID 83638 what happens to them. Privatization of these lands will significantly and
negatively impact the entire nature of the city of McCall and surrounding area.
495Autumn 469 S 300 W Don't sell out Idaho. Public lands belong to the public, and privatizing them is
Anderson Jerome, ID such a move.
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496Jo 336 Deinhard I don't live in McCall, but my business rents space at and operates out of the
Schroeder Lane, McCall, McCall airport. We fly people in and out of McCall who go specifically for
ID 83638 recreational opportunities, including those provided by the lake. I would hate to
see those opportunities, and public access in general, compromised by
privatization.
As an Idahoan who grew up in and currently lives in Salmon, but who has spent
a dozen years living in other areas, I truly believe that public access and public
lands are this state's greatest treasure - an economically valuable treasure.
Recreation is a HUGE industry, and public lands drive that. I hope McCall doesn't
start trading that treasure for a few over-priced houses that only benefit a select
group of individuals.
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497Zabrina 707 N. Howard As a former resident of McCall I do not believe it is in the best interest of the
Ruggles Street Kellogg, wildlife or the people who truly appreciate how special access to this land is to
ID 83837 privatize it. I used to cross country ski and swim using this existing access and
believe it would be a huge disservice to the community of McCall who use this
land far more than an individual who would build a second home there would.
This will just continue to make McCall unaffordable for those who actually live
and work there, which is why my husband and I had to relocate. There is enough
private land and lack of access to the lake as it is. We cannot continue to let go
of our public lands for someone else's financial gain and continue to compromise
wildlife and the community. Thank you for your time and please consider the
irreplaceable value in which wildlife and public lands access have to us Idahoans
when making these decisions.
Sincerely,
Zabrina Ruggles
498Garret 1020 W Main Dear City Council,
Visser, Idaho Street, Suite
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the presentation from Trident
Wildlife 450, Boise
Holdings LLC (Trident) on the proposal to the Idaho State Land Board about a
Federation Idaho 83702
potential swap of private timberland for Idaho Department of Lands Endowment
Lands in McCall. The Idaho Wildlife Federation (IWF) is Idaho’s oldest statewide
conservation organization, founded by sportsmen and women in 1936. Today,
we represent a nonpartisan voice of 28 affiliate organizations with 45,000
affiliate members and individual supporters who desire to sustain and enhance
Idaho’s fish and wildlife, conserve their habitat, and maximize sporting
opportunity for current and future generations.
IWF and our McCall-area members have serious concerns with many
components of the proposal and the potential impacts to both the City of McCall
and Valley County. We believe there are simply too many unknowns of a
proposal this size for the public to support at this time. Privatizing this landscape
will alter how McCall residents and visitors experience McCall and the
surrounding area forever in a fundamental way. While we recognize the Council
does not have direct authority over the final decision made on the future of these
lands, we would still like the Council to hear our hesitations.
IWF fully understands that management of endowment lands differ from
Federally managed public lands. Access to these lands for the public is not always
guaranteed and IDL is not required to provide access. That said, the majority of
the endowment land parcels around McCall are currently accessible for
recreation. Despite conversations with Trident, IWF is not convinced that this
proposal will provide for a net-gain of public access for recreation in the McCall
area and may actually contribute to a net-loss of access state-wide. IWF has not
received concrete examples from Trident of which areas around McCall would
be set-aside for public access, open-space, conservation, or recreational values.
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Additionally, IWF has not been able to receive information on specific areas
where inevitable development would occur on the current endowment parcels,
how much development would occur, and what assurances the public will be
provided to ensure that the landscape is developed responsibly with wildlife and
open-space in mind.
Private timberlands and timber companies in North Idaho used as an example
for a potential swap to the State are currently under Access Yes! Agreements and
other access agreements with Idaho Department of Fish & Game (IDFG) to
provide sportsman and women access on large swaths of private lands. When
asked about seeking parcels of private timberlands that are not currently under
Access Yes! Agreements with IDFG, Trident could not provide a direct answer.
While Trident’s vision for open-space and a trail network for the public in large
sections of the identified landscape is commendable, there is a lack of
information provided on the funding structure to ensure that these areas, trails,
and roads will be adequately maintained. Additionally, we are unsure that
Trident is fully understanding the additional burdens that this privatization and
increased development may put on the City of McCall and Valley County with fire
prevention and response with the expansion in the Wildland-Urban Interface.
These ongoing maintenance and prevention costs have not been answered in
our conversations with Trident. Trident’s notion is that the only way to ensure
public access to this landscape, allow IDL to fulfill the constitutional mandate,
and preserve open space in-and around McCall, is to privatize them through this
proposal. We don’t believe this to be the case. IWF fully supports a locally- driven
process to aid the Land Board’s decision on the future of endowment lands
around McCall. We encourage the City Council, the Chamber of Commerce, and
the Valley County Commission to remain engaged in the process and reach out
to all interested parties when concerns arise. Thank you.
499Court 2300 Heron st This is a *terrible idea*. McCall needs to be preserved and not treated like a gold
Coman mine. We've seen what happens when public land goes into the hands of people
who only want to make money. This will only attract more big money out of state
spenders who couldn't care less about what has made McCall special to families
like mine for over 20 years.
500Scott 3949 S Sutton According to Trident holdings “The forest lands that surround us are at risk of
Krueger Way Boise ID being sold piecemeal to the highest bidder. With no ties to the community, they
83706 will be immune from any influence or oversight by our leaders and community.”
This is a misleading statement that has dangerous consequences as McCall and
Boise continues to grow. There is no clear plan of action or vision for
conservation of this land. I don’t believe this decision will benefit the community
members and others who enjoy the area in the long term future. The future of
McCall’s land should be controlled by the people, not Trident. Please consider
other options and putting this deal on hold until more information is available to
the public. Thank you.
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501Sarah kowall 1307 N 5th st I vehemently oppose these actions. We need to protect our public lands.
502Dan Eardley 522 N Our Public Lands are a major defining factor to what makes Idaho so wonderful.
Riverview Dr. I am a native Idahoan and would be appalled and devastated if the state gave up
Boise Idaho this land to developers whose sole purpose is to profit at the loss of what we
83712 hold dear.
The proposed land swap is being facilitated by Trident Holdings LLC out of Boise,
and I believe there are a number of red flags with them. Trident was just
established in January 2020, by Alec Williams, previously of Pershing Square, and
it seems solely to be the middleman for this deal. Their website is extremely
vague and basic. They have no record of working for conservation or
preservation. I believe this is a high-end development project being sold falsely
and veiled as a preservation project. They claim the goal is to "Preserve McCall"
but in almost the same breath, "Trident's core business is to target opportunistic
transactions that provide significant created value to investors". At the very very
least, the Idaho Land Board should require a 150 year non-development clause,
see if that changes their tone.
Thank you for your consideration.
503Tyler Busby263 This would be a giant mistake for the future of our beautiful town, I see gates
moonridge dr. and million dollars homes surrounding our lake. Also the access and pristine lake
front that would be dotted with giant homes and surely shut down access to
popular hikes and fishing. Please don’t let greed and false promises take hold.
504Dan Eardley 522 N Our Public Lands are a major defining factor to what makes Idaho so wonderful.
Riverview Dr. I am a native Idahoan and would be appalled and devastated if the state gave up
Boise Idaho this land to developers whose sole purpose is to profit at the loss of what we
83712 hold dear.
The proposed land swap is being facilitated by Trident Holdings LLC out of Boise,
and I believe there are a number of red flags with them. Trident was just
established in January 2020, , and it seems solely to be the middleman for this
deal. Their website is extremely vague and basic. They have no record of working
for conservation or preservation. I believe this is a high-end development project
being sold falsely and veiled as a preservation project. They claim the goal is to
"Preserve McCall" but in almost the same breath, "Trident's core business is to
target opportunistic transactions that provide significant created value to
investors". At the very very least, the Idaho Land Board should require a 150 year
non-development clause, see if that changes their tone.
Thank you for your consideration.
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505Kolton 1147 S Public Land around recreation areas in Idaho, once purchased by private
Drake Winthrop interests, has no guarantee of being public thereafter. In multiple instances,
Way, Boise, ID.
easements are written into the language of these deals by the developers, but
83709 they are not honored by the developed property owners.
HOA places fence blocking greenbelt pathway:
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/eagle-squares-off-with-hoa-over-
blocked-greenbelt-access/277-495518936
Homeowner places fence blocking greenbelt pathway:
https://outline.com/mGbjfw
Landowner in a helicopter harasses trail workers in the Sawtooth Wilderness
while they work a trail easement: https://idahonews.com/news/local/justice-
department-helicopter-hounded-trail-building-crew
This will happen ad nauseum once these public lands are sold around Payette
lake.
506Trevor Old 505 w. idaho This is public land, for the public. What the yall doin????
st
507Terry Brady 1920, E I am very much opposed to the proposed land transfer and loss of public open
Monterey Dr access. The big land lock up out of Donnelly is a good example that has had the
effect of no more hunting in areas I was able use since I started hunting in 1966.
508Mark 1014 So, a developer wants to get his hands on a very large chunk of our public lands
Lothrop Northview Dr, . Well, since he has access to all that prime land in Northern Idaho, let him
McCall, ID develop that. I image the value is at least 10% of the McCall value.
83638 We do not need to fast track this deal because Once done, it cannot be undone.
Let’s take the time to think through this and not be short sighted.
509Eryn Hudak 2136 E I don't approve of privatizing these lands. I don't believe in the idea that these
Sharptail St, lands will remain with public access forever and that they won't just build cabins
Meridian, ID and properties all across these acres, ruining the pristine beauty around the lake,
83646 in addition to all the wildlife that will be affected by this decision.
510Connor 1775 S. Cobble Do you love the great outdoors? Great, me too.
Spies Ave Meridian,
Allowing a private entity to purchase what was previously public land allows said
ID
entity to do as they see fit with the land. Now, there are limitations of course,
but for the most part there would be little in the way of building housing or
commercial units in this area.
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This would impact the local environment, at a time when the environment needs
to be protected more then ever before.
Please do not hand control of these public lands over to a private entity.
Regardless of what may be promised by said entity, this opens the floodgates for
unwanted development in our communities.
511Renee 225 NW Carrie McCall is one of the finest gems we have in this state. It’s time to start preserving
Lothrop Circle, it for public use. Once it’s sold off , it gone. Perhaps consider some more state
Mountain parks around the lakes and bring in revenue for the schools And provide more
Home, ID recreation opportunities for all and not just a select group.Take your time and
83647 consider all avenues for this beautiful and loved area.
512Benjamin 405 n pacific Part of makes Idaho special is access to public land. McCall's charm surely is
Graboyes st. Boise, ID deeply intertwined in the public access surrounding the Payette Lakes and
83706 McCall in general. The timber that towers over the city of McCall brings majestic
beauty to the city that could never be replaced. Part of the economy of McCall
surely relies on outdoor recreation and at the forefront of outdoor recreation is
access. By allowing the timber company to take over this plot of land, outdoor
access from McCall would be quite difficult and the economy would surely suffer.
More importantly however, we'll lose the right to access beautiful mature forests
and land that many have spent their whole live recreating within. Please
reconsider. Our natural resources and access to public lands are constantly
dwindling. We should all want our children and our children's children and so
forth to enjoy the same bounty in the future that makes present times in Idaho
so wonderful.
513Garrett 1027 Fireweed We STRONGLY OPPOSE any effort to privatize the land surrounding Payette Lake.
Coman, MD Dr, McCall, ID Trident Holdings is attempting to acquire these lands for development and not
83638 conservation nor to preserve the quality of life that locals and visitors enjoy.
Trident Holdings is offering a short sighted solution that will net them large
profits at the expense of the public good. Time is needed to explore additional
options for this land- including expanding Ponderosa State Park. The state must
consider the long-term value of this land, recognizing there are better ways for
the state to fulfill its constitutional mandate while protecting this iconic Idaho
landscape. This land adds more economic value to the state when protected for
public access, recreation, wildlife habitat, and water quality for our children,
grandchildren, and great-grandchildren than being sold and parceled off.
514Matt 1305 Much of what makes McCall so special is the green space that surrounds the
Stebbins Ponderosa #5 lake—space that will be sold off for yet more development if this land swap goes
through. That isn't what McCall needs. Instead, we need action that will help
preserve these lands as public lands; whether as conservation easements, an
extension of Ponderosa State Park, or via another route altogether, we need
these lands to remain undeveloped.
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515Sheree 664 Please carefully consider all the aspects of and your power to influence the
Sonfield Woodlands Endowment Land exchange proposed by Trident Holdings. This proposed
Drive, McCall, exchange is not in the best interest of Idahoans, Idaho education, Valley County
Idaho or McCall. These lands are a valuable recreational amenity to our small town
and its tourism industry, not to mention extremely valued by all who live, work
and enjoy being here in McCall. Holding these valuable assets as they are held
now for recreation purposes maximizes long-term financial returns to schools
and other trust beneficiaries and stakeholders. Handing these tracts of land over
to a private investment group to repackage, sell and profit from development
would certainly not “preserve” them in any way, shape or form for Idahoans’
education or recreation. No scenario or extent of promises by Trident would
come close to the level of preservation offered through IDL’s holding of these
lands for recreation use. Trident Holdings would make millions in profits that
belongs to Idahoans.
The proposed Trident Holdings land exchange does not meet the Land Board’s
stated mission nor its Recreation policies, just for starters.
The IDL Land Board website states their mission is: “To professionally and
prudently manage Idaho’s endowment assets to maximize long-term financial
returns to public schools and other trust beneficiaries and to provide
professional assistance to the citizens of Idaho to use, protect and sustain their
natural resources.”
The Land Board’s Recreation Policy further states: “The Land Board supports a
policy of allowing the general public continued recreational access to legally
accessible endowment lands, as long as the recreational activities do not
degrade the lands, interfere with management activities, or otherwise negatively
affect the long-term financial return to endowment beneficiaries.”
A map titled “Endowments Lands Accessible for Recreation” identifies many
acres surrounding McCall and Payette Lake which are currently designated for
recreation, and these lands appear to include approximately and generally the
28,000 acres proposed to be exchanged. Therefore, much of the 28,000 acres
proposed to be exchanged appears to be currently earmarked by IDL for
recreational use.
The land proposed for exchange includes prime real estate and IDL’s holding
these Endowment Lands assets is the method to “maximize long-term financial
returns to public schools and other trust beneficiaries…”, as the IDL mission
statement says. The value of prime real estate along the lake in McCall provides
long-term financial returns that far exceed most any other holding or investment
alternative that would be appropriate for IDL investment funds.
So, why consider an exchange with a real estate investment company who will
inventory, repackage, improve, resell the prime parcels and tracts for a huge
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profit that should be Idahoans’ realized gains not a private real estate company’s
gains?
Please look closely at Trident Holdings’ objectives and its founder’s career to
understand their plans for the acreage. Stated objective of Trident Holdings:
“Trident’s core business is to target opportunistic transactions that provide
significant created value to investors…” Trident’s founder’s career: “Alec
Williams served as an investment professional at TABLE Management, L.P., a
large New York based family office, where he led the fund’s real estate investing
and real estate portfolio management operations. There he worked primarily on
equity investments, asset dispositions, asset refinancing, and operational
rationalization.“
CONTINUED ON PART 2
516Sheree 664 PART 2
Sonfield Woodlands
I know (from my own financial career) that the typical financial strategy for these
Drive, McCall,
professionals is to obtain a huge portfolio, inventory it, evaluate it for resale
ID
opportunities, improve it, sell it by many various means to the highest bidder,
make enormous profits off select few parts of the acquired assets. There is
literally so much profit to be made by reselling a few of the acres of lands to be
acquired in this proposed exchange that Trident will have the financial flexibility
to spend lots of money on acquiring, improving, marketing and selling the land,
even if many acres are not developed and/or resold immediately. They know
that they do not need to sell each acre to post their profits. There is absolutely
no doubt about this strategy, I have seen this strategy too many times in my own
career.
So, isn’t this the job of Idaho state government, specifically the Land Board? “To
maximize long-term financial returns…” from Endowment Lands for the benefit
of the Idaho education system and other Idaho stakeholders? So, why would
IDL allow Trident to essentially do what is the job of the IDL??? Why would the
IDL allow Trident to make all this money and enormous profits by acquiring
Endowment Lands? These Endowment Lands’ currently unrealized gains are
Idahoans’ funds not Trident Holdings’ profits.
This is mind boggling to me that this could occur and I beg you to see through
the marketing, promises, studies and hype. The real truth is that this is a big land
grab for a bargain. This is not acceptable and should not be allowed to go
forward.
So, please, for these reasons above and for all the reasons that others oppose
this proposed exchange, please do not allow this exchange to go forward.
Thank you,
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Sheree Sonfield
McCall, ID
517Brent 15611 East It is never a good idea to let public land go into private hands. It will never be
Crosby Washington taken care of well and we will never get that nature back. Leave the land
Road,
protected and preserved for our children. Let the money grabbing developers
Valleyford WA develope and ruin nature someplace else. My address is WA, but I was born in
99036 McCall and still visit my relatives there.
518Tristan Head 811 E To Whom it May Concern,
Chestnut St
Please do not sell 28,000 acres surrounding Payette Lake to Trident Holdings.
Hailey, ID
Hundreds of thousands of Idahoans and other citizens of the United States and
83333
world utilize these lands every year. Lately, public lands are being sold without
long term implications being considered. While Williams of Trident Holdings
states, “What we would be doing is a modest level of phased development where
you cluster small development communities together”. This is exactly what
people do not want to happen to Idaho. Idaho offers pristine wilderness in a
society surrounded with too much concrete. Please consider future generations
of all socio-economic classes and not merely the upper-echelon when dealing
with this decision.
Thank you,
Tristan
519Don Rogers 13012 You can't possibly think this is a good idea. The only way this could go is bad.
Ponderosa, There is zero chance this would not cause more headaches and frustration in the
Donnelly ID future.
520Kirk Smith Please keep access to this land open. I understand the appeal for quick money
but we will be losing out on access to beautiful land that can help be someone’s
inspiration in life. By keeping this public and allowing the community to use it
you will encourage the community to embrace healthy values and conservation
to all. Thank you.
521Lorenn 199 Potter Concerning the Trident land-swap proposal, Alec Williams says in his recent flyer
Walker Lane, McCall, mailed to McCall residents that "I can't think of a more viable alternative" to his
ID equity company's proposal to "preserve" this land. Actually there are other
"viable alternatives" that are safer for preserving and ensuring public assess to
these lands for future generation. The City of McCall needs to be open to
exploring other options. Thank you for your puiblic service.
522Sandra 2244 Payette This is a bad deal for McCall and the citizens of Idaho.
Parks Dr, McCall,
Idaho 83638
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523Gary Davis 1320 E Warm Please do not allow the Idaho Department of Lands to sell public property in
Springs Ave McCall around Payette Lake to private developers. This area is sacred to many
Boise ID 83712 Idahoans. It will b
e better managed and preserved in its natural state by the
Idaho Dept of lands than a private developer. Private development will further
lock out ordinary citizens from accessing the beautiful areas around the lake. This
would be a terrible and irreversible action to sell the land to a private developer.
Thanks Gary Davis
524Michael Sila 537 E I am a Boise resident that goes up to McCall occasionally. I think that selling this
Parkcenter land off is a horrible idea. The corporation can't be trusted to allow public access.
Blvd, Boise, ID McCall will become a built up playground for the rich. You'd be trading small
gains for long term harm.
525Chad Lepak 3812 N. La I strongly OPPOSE the land swap proposed by Trident LLC for the Payette Lake
Mesita Way, State endowment lands, turning 28,000 acres of currently public accessible State
Boise, ID of Idaho land surrounding Payette Lake in McCall, ID to a private entity and into
83702 almost certain private development. This would be a disaster for the wild life
who depend on this corridor for migration and for feeding. It would be a loss to
the general public who would lose access to hunting grounds, public lake access,
and other outdoor recreation enjoyed 9n these lands, including hiking, biking,
mushroom picking, berry picking, wildlife watching, and fishing access. McCall
needs to strive to maintain the balance of the wild with the encroachment of
human development. To develop this area would knock the balance further off
into excessive encroachment of human development. Please reject this plan, so
that the city of McCall don't lose the mountain character that have made this a
special place in Idaho.
Sincerely,
Chad Lepak
526Mike Hays 992 Valley Rim Oppose Trident Holdings - proposal to the State Land Board about a potential
Rd McCall swap of private timberland for IDL endowment lands in McCall
I urge the McCall City Council to oppose Trident Holding's proposal to the State
Land Board. While the Council does not have a vote on this proposal tonight,
they do have a vested interest to oppose, as the City of McCall will be one of the
areas that suffers the most if this transfer goes forward. The City has never
looked at expansion to the North. All City Plans focus on growth to the South.
Just the expense of planning how to deal with major development on the North
end of the City will be a drain on the City's time and budget, and a drain on City
taxpayers. The residents of McCall and Valley County should not have to pay to
plan how to deal with Developers that hope to make millions off of our area. This
is not Development that the residents of the area want to occur.
An Opinion from 2018 by the Idaho AG (2018/04/OP91-03) says about State
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Lands, " \[I\]t shall be the duty of the state board of land commissioners to
determine the best use or uses, viewed from the standpoint of general welfare".
The best use or uses of this property viewed from the standpoint of General
Welfare has been laid out in the City and County Comprehensive Plans, which
include,
topography, riparian areas, and wildlife habitat areas.
pport a connected open space
network and wildlife corridors.
areas
areas that increase the variety and quantity of fish and wildlife
detrimental to the provision of food, water, and cover for fish and wildlife.
AG Opinion 2018/04/OP91-03 also says, (The Land) "board may also call upon
the boards of county commissioners in counties wherein the lands are situated
for advice and recommendations in determination of future use and
administration of said lands." The City Council and County Commissioners need
to push back against privatization, and to 'advise and recommend
determinations of future use '.
McCall is struggling to keep up with the current growth rates. The quality of the
Payette River Basin is already being degraded. Existing infrastructure is being
maxed out. Area roads are struggling with current traffic levels and maintenance
needs. Area businesses already have trouble finding employees because the high
cost of housing precludes potential employees from moving here. Large areas of
development to the North of McCall to cater to millionaires that want waterfront
property are only going to exacerbate these problems. Even though the City's
water rights are already being exceeded, the City will be forced to annex these
new Development properties to the North. Sewer and water utility expansion,
along with new roads, to service these developments will be expensive and
current taxpayers will be subsidizing the developer's profits.
Please notify the State Land Board the City of McCall opposes Trident Holding's
proposal.
Thank you, -M Hays
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527Chris Turner2989 W I vehemently oppose the proposal to sell public land to private owners. Part of
Kendrick St, what makes Idaho great is the large amount of public access lands for outdoors
Meridian, ID recreation. We have already seen what private ownership leads to in the areas
83646 surrounding Boise where fences and armed guards have been put into place by
the Wilkes brothers. The guise of this being in the name of conservation is flat
out untrue. Once profits get in the way, conservation will go out the door and
these lands will only be used for development or private property for the wealthy
elite. Please do not support this measure and keep these lands in Idahoan's
hands.
528Paul 3462 S Grenze These corporations can’t be trusted. They promise one thing and the next thing
Saccoman Way. Meridian you know they do something entirely different. I am definitely against this land
Id 83642 grab happening.
529Mark Beaver125 S. 14th I am writing to voice my opposition to the proposed exchange of IDL lands
Ave. Pocatello, surrounding Payette Lake to Trident Holdings. As someone who was born and
ID 83201 raised in McCall, and hopes to raise my children there, I could write an essay on
the personal and emotional connections that I and so many other Idahoans have
with this area. However, I will instead address a short list of objective rationale
as to why this exchange would be detrimental to the region, and Idaho.
1. Local Economy: This exchange will not economically benefit the majority of
year-round residents. It will elicit a short-term boost for local construction, and
possibly a more sustained boost to certain seasonal economies. Likewise, it will
most likely garner revenue in taxes for roads and schools. However, history has
shown us in similar locales that the majority of the ownership in these
developments will be to high-income individuals whose primary residence is
located elsewhere. This not only creates a boom/bust seasonal cycle that leaves
many locals helplessly scrambling to make ends meet half of the year. It also
raises property values such that many residents are left unable to afford housing
in the area. This includes teachers, forestry workers, the majority of construction
workers, and even most hospital employees. These are the people who keep
McCall functioning. Unless Trident intends on building 1,000 units of affordable
housing, this will disenfranchise local, year-round residents that make McCall a
community.
2. Water Quality, Wildlife, and Ecosystem: This will have irrevocable, negative
effects on water quality, wildlife, and the ecosystem. Trident claims protection
of public access and environmental stewardship, but developments will
objectively incur a greater losses than protections in these areas. Dr. Becky
Rittenburg of the Fresh Water Trust states, “Shoreline development and roads in
this portion of the Payette Watershed threaten critical ecosystem services
provided by existing forests and riparian buffers. These habitats are not only
important for wildlife, but also prevent erosion and pollutants from entering
Payette and Little Payette Lake and North Fork of the Payette River. Converting
shoreline habitats to commercial or residential land uses may deliver additional
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phosphorus to the Payette Lake from lawn/landscape fertilizer inputs, increased
erosion, and increased runoff. Additional nutrient loading from phosphorus may
increase the risk of eutrophication of our local waterways, resulting in algal
blooms and oxygen depletion.” Wildlife, too, will be greatly affected. Fauna will
likely be pushed into town - inevitably leading to increased, negative-
human/wildlife interactions. Likewise, humans and wildlife will be concentrated
in the adjacent backcountry, which will lead to increased, negative-
human/human/wildlife interactions. Further, the entire forest ecosystem will be
changed. A probable outcome is an altered fire-regime due to invasive-plant
proliferation as a result of years of development. This will put increased pressure
firefighting crews to protect a new, highly-flammable wildland-urban-interface
zone. These are the same firefighters that will be forced out of livability in McCall
by exorbitant property values.
3. It is fundamentally Un-Idahoan: Have the oldest Idahoans, the Nez Perce,
Bannock, Paiute, and Shoshone tribes, all of which call the banks of Payette Lake
traditional lands, been brought to the table? Idaho is wild and scenic, and
Payette Lake is an anomaly among resort towns. Regardless of personal, political,
or religious beliefs, one thing Idahoans come together over is the value we put
on nature and access to public lands. These particular lands are both public and
managed by the state. That reaches across the aisle, and this exchange will
alienate Idahoans across the spectrum. Wild, scenic public-lands make America
singularly great. By developing these, we take a fundamental brick out of the
foundation of America.
530Melissa 1027 Fireweed We STRONGLY OPPOSE any effort to privatize the land surrounding Payette Lake.
Coman McCall Trident Holdings is attempting to acquire these lands for development and not
conservation nor to preserve the quality of life that locals and visitors enjoy.
Trident Holdings is offering a short sighted solution that will net them large
profits at the expense of the public good. Time is needed to explore additional
options for this land- including expanding Ponderosa State Park. The state must
consider the long-term value of this land- recognizing there are better ways for
the state to fulfill its constitutional mandate while protecting this iconic Idaho
landscape. This land adds more economic value to the state when protected for
public access, recreation, wildlife habitat and water quality for our children,
grandchildren, and great-grandchildren than being sold and parceled off.
531Melinda 5403 E Felly The land exchange proposal from Trident, LLC, fails to recognize the treasure that
Quick Rim Court, is associated with Payette Lakes recreational activities, its natural and scenic
Boise, ID beauty, and its pristine environment.
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Tourism, fishing, boating, hunting, and wildlife watching on these lands
contribute significantly to the local economy. Protection of lakeshore and
riparian habitat is of critical importance, and helps keep the lake clean.
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I encourage you to say "No" to Trident's proposal. Simply put, this land exchange
is a bad deal for Idahoans.
Instead, the Idaho Department of Lands and the Land Board should work to craft
a solution that protects public access, recreation, water quality and wildlife
habitat for all Idahoans.
532Bethany 83 Silver Fox NO land exchange!
Thomas Trail
533Alexandra 1027 Fireweed We STRONGLY OPPOSE any effort to privatize the land surrounding Payette Lake.
Coman Dr McCall ID Trident Holdings is attempting to acquire these lands for development and not
83638 conservation nor to preserve the quality of life that locals and visitors enjoy.
Trident Holdings is offering a short sighted solution that will net them large
profits at the expense of the public good. Time is needed to explore additional
options for this land- including expanding Ponderosa State Park. The state must
consider the long-term value of this land- recognizing there are better ways for
the state to fulfill its constitutional mandate while protecting this iconic Idaho
landscape. This land adds more economic value to the state when protected for
public access, recreation, wildlife habitat and water quality for our children,
grandchildren, and great-grandchildren than being sold and parceled off.
534Bill Dorris 79 Allen Ave I am a native of Idaho. I could write a book on all the wrong reasons for this land
Auburn Maine swap. First of all, this is the heritage of what we grew up with in McCall. I was
04210 born in 1958 -- probably in one of the three rooms we had at the hospital when
it was called the McCall Memorial Hospital... it wasn't that long ago and I hope
people who are in office at the city can remember this name and time, If not,
then that is just one problem with the history of McCall politics today. I do live
in Maine and plan to come back to McCall to live out the golden years. I have
been working in McCall for about six months a year for the last 13 years. I
graduated from McCall Donnelly School District and served McCall through my
years as an athlete on the US Ski Team. I grew up in a large family of fifteen,
some which still live in McCall or the surrounding area. Just one point -- I don't
want to call anyone names or such, so don't take this the wrong way but it's the
only way to make this point. All the developments this side Boise are very
inappropriate to the way of life in McCall. Picture house-to-house developments
in McCall around Payette Lake -- from Pearl Lake Road, down both sides of the
lake, and on down the east side -- up almost to Boulder Lake and down to at least
Paddy Flat area, The area of water and land around the lake of this proposed
land swap is more difficult for development than you can imagine. Most of this
land is shelf stair-step country, with water and small wetlands that are hidden by
the ledges, rock, and rock cliffs -- sometimes called coolies. Building just a road
in this country would be a hard endeavor. I don't believe it is environmentally
feasible to build on this land. I know that this is not suitable ground for septic
systems, leach fields, or any kind of sewage plant. Please remember that
anything above our water system i.e. (the lake) will eventually seep through the
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land mass and start to ruin the lake and go down the river system all the way
down to the Snake River and beyond. How would you like to eat those potatoes
or beets? Remember the heritage of the land endowment... a lot of you don't
and may not even know the land endowment existed before this proposed land
swap. Logging in the country is hard but doable. It was logged once or even
twice in my lifetime but, the problem is the state of Idaho is slowly selling of the
endowment land because of money. (Not the thing to say) If the state of Idaho
doesn't have the money to take care of the endowment land the correct way --
then the officials
and employees of this state are not doing their jobs the way
we, the people of Idaho, want. We care about this state. One last thing to
remember is you can't see the land( in the swap) from your house in McCall but
you Will see the developed land around the lake and beyond... If the State needs
money, there are other avenues to explore.
ways to get it another way. Remember, the state put roads in this land so we
can log and continue to do so, if we choose to. Keep in mind that the Federal
Government is continually closing access to the public forest lands and
backcountry -- taking away opportunities for recreation. This state endowment
land we currently have here in McCall offers us continuing opportunities to enjoy
our lands and natural resources. I believe we have something that is very special
here in McCall and I would like to have these resources preserved for future
generations... after all, this is called the Gem State.... There are a lot of loopholes
in the Idaho system and we have been taken advantage of before. Please don't
let anyone mislead you -- the Governor works for us and we need to be firm in
our stance. ...the land around Payette Lake is priceless -- I mean priceless -- Not
For Sale!!!
535Caroline 180 Cindy CT, Public lands have always been one of McCalls most Valuable asset. We have lived
Valle McCall ID in McCall the last 40years and my children grew up hiking, biking, skiing and
83638 fishing on these public lands. Because of this they have a passion for our
environment. If you allow this land to be privatize, it will greatly affect our
environment , our wildlife and our children lives. Please save this valuable asset
for future generations to enjoy.
536Joshua Graff 5226 W Public lands are Idaho's greatest resource. They're the reason myself and so
Kootenai st many young professionals live in Idaho. We spend nearly every weekend
camping, fishing, biking, and hunting. Please don't sell our priceless home to the
highest bidder
537Katie 945 Ridge Rd., It is not in the best interest of our city or it’s citizens to consider the land
Morgan McCall ID exchange with Trident Holdings. Our open spaces are our greatest treasure. They
83638 define who we are as a community. The city has done a fantastic job to date
mindfully developing spaces like Rotary Park, Legacy Park and Riverfront Park for
the benefit and enjoyment of its residents, businesses and visitors alike. It would
be a huge mistake to hand over these irreplaceable acres of endowment lands,
to a private developer, who does not have the same vision or mandate to do
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what’s best for McCall. please Vote No on the Trident Land Exchange!
Katie Morgan
538Joshua 103 west I’m writing to let you know I oppose the sale of land around Payette Lake. Iwould
Thompson claire st like to keep these critical acres of access and wildlife habitat in public hands.
meridian Id Thank you,
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Joshua Thompson
539Jennifer 4704 W. I am opposed to the proposed landswap. The land endowments at issue provide
Swajkoski Alamosa St. necessary and vital public access in and around Payette Lake. To allow a private
Boise, ID entity to take control of that land would be counter to the core ideals of
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Idahoans. The land at issue is uniquely situated to provide access to those living
and/or recreating near McCall, Idaho. As the population of the state and this area
grows it is vital that we maintain core multi use recreation areas such as the area
around Payette Lake. Privatizing this area would tarnish the State's legacy and
negatively impact all who may not be able to afford to own property on the lake
but love to recreate in the area.
540Dominique 1530 N 25th This is an absolute moronic idea! Keep our public lands public. You will
Naegele-St, Boise, ID completely ruin the community of McCall.
Clifford 83702
541Kristin Hoff P.O. Box 2867 First...thank you for your courageous decision as a council last week to "mask up
Sinclair McCall, ID McCall". We listened to the entire meeting and although there were lots of
83638 opinions stated on both sides of the issue, you made the courageous decision to
move our town forward on the matter in the moment that counted.
Todays comment is in reference to the presentation tonight by Trident. I am most
concerned about the lack of detail and the amount of promise. When I expressed
concern to Alec about the pressure on the lake, and our drinking water I was told
"we will work with local experts". It seems that we should have lots more detail
than that before a transaction that affects every element of infrastructure on
this town. I've heard lots of promises (smoke?) about what they will do to
support the town but again no details. It seems strange to me that the
transaction would be decided by the IDL and yet it will have the greatest impact
on McCall, its citizens and surrounding area. I urge you to push for more
information and demand answers from both Trident and IDL before this gains
any additional traction. I'll be listening tonight and appreciate your time in
reading this and prep for the meeting.Thank you.
542Randy 2734 N. I am writing to express my serious concern about, and opposition to, the
Eardley Terrace Way, proposed land-swap involving Trident Holdings, LLC and the lands surrounding
Boise, Idaho McCall. While I understand the need for the state to provide critical funds for
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schools, this particular situation raises multiple red flags and would adversely
affect McCall, the state and the population as a whole.
This project is being sold as a conservation and preservation project, yet the
company’s website states unequivocally that their purpose is to “Target
opportunistic transactions that provide significant created value to investors."
There is no mention of current or past conservation work or interests and
creating investor value appears to be the primary goal at the cost of losing our
public lands.
Further, these lands hold intrinsic values to Idahoans and the local economy that
cannot be replaced in a fell swoop to enrich investors who are often outside the
state. Additionally, the notion that the “best way to protect public lands is to
privatize them,” as I’ve seen stated in support of this proposal, is nonsensical and
rarely if indeed ever works out to the public’s advantage. Along those lines,
“preserving public access” frequently means little more than a narrow path
through overbuilt development which is hardly Idahoan’s idea of access.
Finally, we also don’t know where the proposed swap lands are in northern Idaho
or what issues that may entail. For these reasons and more, I would encourage
your opposition to this proposal. Thank you, from one Idahoan to others.
543Nicholas 3887 E I am writing on behalf of Idaho River's United. We are strongly opposed to the
Nelson Wormwood proposed land swap and the dubious claims as to the rationale for the swap. This
Ct, Boise, ID area would be irreparably harmed by the proposal and the subsequent
83716 development from Trident Holdings. The watershed, fisheries, and ecological
integrity of the area would greatly be compromised. The recreational values and
the economic generation they bring in from an undeveloped Payette Lake go well
beyond the bottom line, although, they are huge economic generators for the
region - a region that would loose much of its identity if this swap came to
fruition. Similarly, the fish and wildlife, held in the public trust on these lands
would be compromised and this needs to be included in the analysis of the value
of this land being kept public and undeveloped. Stringent NEPA analysis and
much more substantive public input is required before a project of this
magnitude can even be considered.
544Shane 3446 n Leslie Public lands should not be for sale. Please don’t let big money buy our lands. I’d
Ingram way meridian, like my kids to enjoy these areas in Idaho like I did. Thanks
id 83646
545Ben Busack411 E 18th Ave I strongly urge the city council to oppose the land swap proposed by Trident, LLC.
Spokane, WA Privatizing these public lands would lead to destruction of the amazing natural
99203 resources that make McCall so special. Additionally, development of said lands
would have a tremendous impact on wildlife corridors. Keep McCall special and
resist the advances of the capitalists! Keep public lands in public hands
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546Pam and 280 May As McCall and Valley County residents, we are deeply concerned about the
Mike Road; McCall, future of the City and County should the proposed Trident Holdings land swap
Wissenbach ID 83638 and development of Idaho State Endowment Land be approved. The very nature
of the McCall area is threatened by this proposed land swap. These lands, held
by the State of Idaho, and managed for the benefit of its citizens, are integral to
the natural resource-based economy and way of life that many residents and
visitors to the area enjoy. In addition to providing income for Idaho's public
schools, these lands provide valuable wildlife habitat, wetland and watershed
values, readily
accessible recreation opportunities, and many other benefits,
including the natural forested backdrop that frames, protects and defines
Payette Lake and the City of McCall.
We strongly encourage the City of McCall to officially oppose this proposed
Trident land exchange and development.
Pam and Mike Wissenbach
McCall, Idaho
547Amy 4479 w. Bloom I am opposed to the alleged smart growth development. I am opposed to the
Vecchione st. BOISE, public lands being lost to private companies in McCall. This move could
Idaho disastrously change our area.
548Conner 1437 W A St. I am writing to urge the McCall City Council to reject the Trident Holdings LLC
Weygint Apt. 12 land exchange. My family has been going to Payette Lake for 3 generations and
Moscow, even in my lifetime accessing the lake has become more and more difficult. This
Idaho 83843 land exchange would only work to benefit the few people who are wealthy
enough to own land along the lake and be to the detriment of all the other
people in Idaho who have a deep connection to Payette Lake and the Valley
County area. I urge you to stand against this land exchange to ensure that all
people will have an opportunity to enjoy Payette Lake in the future, not just a
few. McCall is one of the gems of Idaho due in large part to its abundance of
accessible public land and this exchange would compromise the access that so
many people enjoy.
549Graham 600 W My family and I are firmly against privatizing public land around lakes McCall and
Gobeille Eastman St Payette. Access to natural features such as these make Idaho a beautiful and
Boise ID 83702 special place and privatizing ultimately restricts access. The value of these lands
in the public domain is priceless, and selling them robs the people of Idaho while
rewarding a select wealthy few.
550Alicen 1670 E. These lands should be kept public. Idaho is known for its vast wilderness and
Mancha Sweetwater once it becomes private, all the people that enjoy these spaces will no longer be
Circle apt 237 able to do that. Keep Idaho public!
Post Falls, ID
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551Nick 938 Valley Rim About three months ago, Counterpunch.org had a little blurb on notorious hedge
Monahan Rd. McCall, ID fund manager Bill Ackman. Quote:
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"When billionaire hedge funder Bill Ackman went on CNBC last week to
histrionically warn that ' is coming' and urge Trump to shut down the country
for 30 days, he failed to inform his audience that he is neck deep in a bet against
the markets that eventually reaped him $2.6 billion in profits. The scum also
rises."
Mr. Ackman exaggerated conditions, causing many small investors to hastily sell
their securities at the year's low point, or as CNBC put it, "one of the worst
market sell-offs in the modern era." After the dust had settled, and the markets
rebounded, Mr. Ackman had bagged a 100-fold gain on their panic. Their loss
was his gain.
It's an old ploy, and, so it seems, one we're privileged to witness being utilized in
real time by Alec Williams, who, with great benevolence, quit his job this past
winter and rushed to form Trident in order to rescue the land north of McCall
from dire circumstances. I don't know if the position he sacrificed for your
greater good was the one he held at TABLE Management ("as an investment
professional at TABLE Management, L.P., a large New York based family office,
\[...Alec Williams\] led the fund’s real estate investing and real estate portfolio
management operations. There he worked primarily on equity investments,
asset dispositions, asset refinancing, and operational rationalization.). I do,
though, know something about TABLE Management:
"Step inside Table Management, an obscure investment firm in New York, and
something strange happens: You’re transported to the rarefied realm of Bill
Ackman, the billionaire hedge fund manager." (Bloomberg, 9/16/2015).
552David 599 N Darwin Hello,
HeckerSt. Apt. 8 Salt I was born and raised in Idaho and I view the proposed development of the lands
Lake City, UT near McCall and Payette Lake as a contradiction to what we as Idahoans' value
and stand for. These public lands should be protected for the benefit of the
public, as they were intended. This notion of a "land swap" is very misleading
and litigious phrasing, better stated as swapping to the highest bidder. What do
we want the public lands of Idaho to become? I think it's important to consider
the long term value of special landscapes. As we've witnessed a surge of private
land acquisition in the state in recent decades, this "land swap" will further
established a precedent for future decades and generations. It is imperative we
halt this effort to devalue and sell off the public land surrounding Payette Lake.
This "land swap" does not enhance the city of McCall, nor the lifestyle of the
current residents and homeowners. I do not support this effort to develop this
land. I support our public lands. I ask that local officials and USFS personnel act
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in the interest of current residents and the safe keeping of the few remaining
undeveloped swaths of land surrounding McCall. Thank you, David Hecker
553Kevin 317 e Florida Public lands are for everyone, Idaho’s best asset is its untouched beauty. DO NOT
RowanAvePRIVATIZE PUBLIC LANDS, it belongs to everyone. Keep it that way.
554Hayley Helm 5310 Wolfe St Keep public lands in public hands. Idaho’s lands and the health of Idahoans
Boise ID 83705 should take priority over profit from homes. Do not allow development around
the Payette lakes.
555Dr. April Aprildwatts@gI am very opposed to the selling of these lands. Many people visit McCall to enjoy
Watts mail.com these areas and we do not want them sold off. It would decrease the value of
the area and be a bad decision financially and environmentally!
556Cory 5779 N Stop selling off our private lands! Just because a private entity states that they
Ravenscroft Wellspring might keep it open to all, is in no way a guarantee that they will. Public lands
Way - Boise, belong to all of us. Let's keep it that way.
ID, 83713
557 Ensi 3566 Longview Although I know you don’t have the final decision. The land that is being sold
Armacost road belongs to McCall. It belongs to the people that enjoy that land. If we let the rich
folk buy the land, we will not be able to enjoy like we used to. McCall is about
the outdoors and scenery. If we sell, We will turn the scenery into shopping malls
and all of the above which is not what McCall is about. Save my land, save your
land!
558Sarah 405 N Pacific With respect, I urge you to decline the proposed land swap by Trident Holdings,
Rackers St, Boise, ID, LLC. Continued over-development and under-appreciation of our natural beauty
83706 here in Idaho undermines our respect for the great outdoors. And in doing so,
we will continue to destroy the very thing that restores and reinvigorates us.
Public lands must be kept in public hands. If we continue to profit off these
natural resources, our children will have less and less. And then nothing.
559Laura 522 N Idaho's most valued resource is arguably our public lands.Being Idaho born and
Lothrop Riverview Dr., raised and having worked and lived in McCall, I know that McCall's culture, well-
Boise ID 83712 being, and identity is centered around the outdoors—the public lands and state
park that surround McCall. It's what brings thousands of visitors from across the
state, the country and the world.
Selling off these lands is a short-term gain with long-term harm. How is putting
public lands in the hands of a private company saving public access and who
benefits in the end?
If monetizing these lands is absolutely necessary, why not create a state park so
everyone is welcome to enjoy the land for generations to come? Privatizing
these public lands takes away any protection we have. Once you take public
lands and privatize them, they are gone from the public forever. The holes in
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Trident's offerings are the lack of details and experience in conservation as they
have promoted as their sole purpose.
I hope that as Idahoans you see what a true gem McCall is, and will cherish it's
most valued resource by keeping Idaho public.
560Jerry Troy 8300 Spring It's no secret that access to once available public areas has, and continues to,
Creek Waydiminish rapidly in Valley County. It is very short sighted for anyone to think
giving up more would enhance the community. Like someone once said; "Evil is
very hard to describe....You just know it when you see it." Stay strong, do the
right thing.
561Catherine 7111 W Please keep public lands public! Idaho is wonderful because of the easy
Feistner Everett At availability to the great outdoors. Once this land is private, the best parts of
#104, Boise, Idaho are taken away. It eliminates the ability to use the lands for recreation,
ID, 83704 increases urban sprawl and fails to protect our surrounding environment. For
developmental areas, use the open lands that are already in the urban
development area to keep our environmental impacts low! PLEASE KEEP PUBLIC
LANDS PUBLIC. Thank you so much, have a great day.
562Patrick Zak316 Rio Vista Dear City Council:
Blvd, McCall,
Idaho The potential land swap of property around McCall between the State of Idaho
and the land held by Trident Holdings in Northern Idaho is a very bad idea
financially and politically. It is bad financially because the swap is a lopsided
trade. According to news sources, the Northern Idaho land is worth $85,000,000
and has 2.9 million board feet of timber. Based on an estimated cost per acre of
$60,000 per acre in the McCall area, $85,000,000 is equal to selling 1417
individual one acre lots or 5% of the land proposed for the swap near McCall.
The State Land near McCall is twenty times more valuable than the timber land
in Northern Idaho. If it was the only option, selling as little as 10 acres of public
lands around McCall could generate more income for the state in one year than
the total potential timber sales generated from the land in Northern Idaho. For
example, the asking price for an acre of land near McCall ranges from $60,000
to $75,000. Selling 10, one acre lotscould generate between $600,000 to
$750,000. In comparison, selling the 2.9 million board feet of timber present on
the Northern Idaho landat an average of $175.00 per 1000 board feet, would
produce only $507,500. Once the timber is cut, it will take at least 70 to 100
years before it is profitable to re-harvest. With raising land values, the money
generated by sales of small units of property could increase exponentially. By
making small sales over time and continuing to generate funds from other land
use lease agreements, the state will have a sustained source of extra funds for
our schools. The amount generated by the sale of small portions of land over
time makes the money generated by timber sales seem like small potatoes.
The land swap is bad politically. Privatizing large tracks of public land will incite a
strong public reaction. The loss of the land around McCall has the potential to
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reduce or eliminate public access to both the land sold and to adjacent Forest
Service land. Public opposition to a large land swap of the lands around McCall
will be substantial and could result in considerable political backlash for those
officials involved. Trident Holdings may promise to maintain access to the land,
but there is no way to assure Trident Holdings will keep that promise once they
own the land. As an investment company, Trident Holdings will sell the land to
others, and most likely to less altruistic land owners. Privatizing the state
endowment land around McCall would take away access to significantly more
l
and than just the lands privatized.
With the steady population growth in Idaho, it is more important than ever to
maintain access to public land. The access to public land is one of the biggest
benefits of living in Idaho. Many Idahoans move here and stay here because of
the free access to open spaces that Idaho offers. Public opposition to small
portions of land sold would be minimal and generally accepted. If selling the
endowment land was the only option, the land could be sold in a way to maintain
public access and keep the major portion of the land public. It does not make
sense to make a huge lopsided land swap that would result in a long term
financial loss for the state and have the potential to close off our lands and
arouse the public. It makes good sense for the State of Idaho to make small sales
over time, if necessary, and maintain land use leases to generate a sustainable
high profit and financial gain for our schools while maintaining free public access
to our lands. My question is, will the McCall City Council support what is best
for the New York Investors of Trident Holdings, or support what is best for the
people and public schools of Idaho? We all count on the good financial and civic
sense of the McCall City Council to make the right decision.
Patrick Zak
McCall
563Chris 2802 N 29th st I oppose the land swap that would result in greater development of the Payette
Weaver Boise, ID and Upper Payette Lakes
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564Katie Clark1311 N 7th I do not support the privatization of these public lands!
Street, Boise,
ID 83702
565Britney 12001 Fiddler Idaho wilderness belongs rightfully to the Idaho public and should remain that
Brougham Drive Boise ID way. The promise to keep it open is empty so long as it is not in written
83713 contractual form.
566Rebecca 208 Pleasant This is a terrible idea. These people will not leave it public. Quit selling land to
Lysinger Street private parties who say they'll keep it public.
567Lane 4251 W Public Lands belong to all Idahoans. I was just in McCall for my honeymoon last
Genovese Castlebar Ct week and getting to experience the remaining lake shore that was still public land
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was glorious. Selling out future generations just to generate some extra property
tax dollars is a shortsighted plan that favors big government and the wealthy.
568Stacey 4612 E Faith Keep the land, don’t sale out to Trident.
CarlsonLn, Meridian,
Idaho, 83642
569Jim Egnew73 Rogers While I would love to see the Idaho Endowment Lands around Payette Lake
Lane maintained for recreational access and preservation of the current “rural”
atmosphere, I believe it is important for people to understand these are not
public lands. We need to search for the best solution for both the state and our
community. An offer such as this should be considered carefully. Outright
opposition could lead to less favorable outcome. We need to be careful.
570Katie 3615 S McCall is changing quickly, as we all have seen. If there is a reduction in public
Warner Brookshore Pl, lands, less people will be able to enjoy the wilderness around the lake. It will be
Boise, ID privatized and sold to make more cabins. Idahoans pay taxes to keep up public
83706 lands, and we should have access to those public lands for recreation. Do NOT
privatize.
571Skyla 564 We don't want this.
Shumway Whitewater
Drive
Donnelly,
Idaho
572Charlie 1638 Warren As a regular user of these public lands for hiking, biking,skiing, mushroom picking
Woodruff Wagon Rd. and more I urge you to use your platform as a council to discourage the land
exchange deal with Trident. Any developer can promise to "do things the right
way", but there is no guarantee that they would execute development on these
lands in a way that preserves the character and accessibility of them for current
and future generations. The lands in question are extremely valuable to the
community and there are other avenues to pursue the long-term conservation
of them as a community asset. Thank you
573John Idaho Dear Mayor Giles and City Council Members,
Robison Conservation
We understand that Trident Holdings is giving a presentation to the City of
League, PO
McCall regarding its proposal to the Idaho State Land Board about a Potential
Box 844, Boise
Swap of Private Timberland for Idaho Department of Lands Endowment Lands in
ID 83701
McCall. We oppose Trident’s proposal that would privatize state lands around
McCall and wish to see these endowment lands remain undeveloped and
managed as open space available to all Idahoans.
We understand that the City of McCall has limited jurisdiction on this matter but
we believe that the City can play an important role in representing the interests
of the citizens of McCall and working with interested stakeholders to identify
alternative, long-term solutions that retain these forests as open space in
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perpetuity. While details are vague, Trident Holdings, LLC proposal for the
28,000-acre land exchange could lead to the permanent development of
additional lakefront homes, condominiums and structures that could occupy up
to 40 miles of lakefront on Payette and Little Payette Lake, as well as several
miles along the North Fork of the Payette River. The proposal threatens to
degrade important public values like wildlife habitat and public access. The
proposal could also undermine the areas's recreation economy, and impair the
scenic beauty and pristine environment, as well as the City of McCall’s municipal
water supply.
Last week ICL staff met with Alec Williams of Trident Holdings to discuss this
proposal. While we appreciated his stated interests in protecting public access
and environmental stewardship, the mechanisms to accomplish these goals
were unclear and were not an improvement on the status quo. From our
perspective, Trident is creating a crisis and presenting its proposal as a solution.
The bottom line is that Trident is trying to acquire these lands first and foremost
lands for development, roads and housing, and has not provided any details on
management to conserve the lands, nor to preserve the quality of life that locals
and visitors enjoy.
While Trident argues that the Idaho State Constitution mandates that the state
secure the maximum possible long-term financial return and that the state is
obligated to pursue the exchange, Trident’s analysis fails to recognize the
treasured features associated with the lake’s recreational activities, natural and
scenic beauty, and pristine environment, which we believe are much more
valuable than any potential development. Tourism, fishing, boating, hunting and
wildlife watching on these lands also contribute significantly to the local
economy, and protection of lakeshore and riparian habitat is of critical
importance to Payette Lake’s water quality. The plan also appears to be
inconsistent with Valley County Comprehensive Plan, particularly Goal VII to
ensure impacts of various uses on state lands do not overload Valley County
infrastructure.
We request that the City of McCall submit testimony to the the State Board of
Land Commissioners (Land Board) in advance of their July 21 meeting and ask
the Land Board to deny this proposal, and instead to investigate opportunities to
permanently protect these lands for public access, recreation, wildlife habitat,
and water quality for our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. At its
June 2020 meeting, the Land Board pressed pause on any leasing or exchanges
in the McCall area to more thoroughly consider the issues. Existing leases and
auctions of cabin sites will continue to move forward, but any new leases or
exchanges will not. We encourage the City of McCall to support an extension of
this moratorium for two years. We also encourage the McCall City Council to
explore solutions like expanding Ponderosa State Park and/or working with
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partners to apply for Land and Water Conservation Funds for acquisitions or
conservation easements to permanently protect this iconic Idaho landscape
574Ana 73 Rogers This comment is in regards to Trident Holdings’ proposal to the Idaho Stare Land
Dronkert Lane, McCall, Board about a potential land swap involving lands aroundMcCall. We will hear
Egnew Idaho 83638 more today on this proposal and I have read the Economic Benefits report. I am
registering my serious concerns about the proposal as it currently stands. The
need for such a drastic change to state endowment lands is unclear. The
economic benefits are murky at best. Any consideration of the proposal should
include a full explanation on how the public and other private entities could be
involved in review and design of this proposal and/or crafting separate
proposals. I urge the council to give due consideration for full disclosure and
public involvement.
575Leigh 43 Mores I strongly oppose the transfer of public lands (State of Idaho) around Payette
Woodruff Creek Circle, Lake to private ownership. One of 's Idaho's the greatest assets are its public
Boise Idaho lands, both State and Federal. I strongly believe these should be retained so
83716 that their current resource value can be protected, and so that the public, not
just a few, can enjoy them in the future. Thanky you for the opportunity to
provide this comment.
576Jarrod 1025 please do not privatize land around mcall area
poppleton schumacker
dr. Troy, Idaho
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577April 405 Floyde I am interested in hearing from our local law enforcement about their use of
Rossetti Street, McCall, force policies and de-escalation practices. Thank you for bringing this item to the
ID, 83638 agenda for discussion and hopefully helping to provide some transparency to the
community in this area.
During a local Black Lives Matter demonstration a few weeks ago, a young
woman was harassed as she stood alone exercising her constitutional right to
protest and have her voice heard. Multiple diesel truck drivers rolled coal on her
as they drove by, made circles around the block, and continued this act of
aggression multiple times as she stood out there for nearly two hours alone.
Time and time again, she was left in a cloud of black smoke, standing tall,
unwavering amidst the harassment. I would like to request that City Council
members consider a community measure that would ban the act of rolling coal.
Rolling coal pollutes the air, the water, and is used as a bullying tactic in instances
such as this. Rolling coal is a violation of the Clean Air Act and many states have
banned it. I urge the McCall Police Department and the City of McCall to
condemn these acts of bullying, aggression, and pollution.
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578Jennifer 1693 Lick I am 100% agents this land trade. The infrastructure cab not handle the current
Coughlin-Creek Rd visitor to imagine what could happen. The traffic to and from highway 55 would
Jones McCall Idaho not be able to handle it. At who's expense would it be to fix and accommodate
83638 for what could happen when there is no plan in place to fix the current problem.
What happen to the state of Idaho protecting the Idahoans the people that live
here. We would allow for investors to own over 75% of the the area around
McCall. People who do not care about the area. Why are the citizens of Idaho
not being thought of 1st. Idaho should protect their own.
Texas investors came in a purchase all kinds of Idaho land and now there is a
huge law suit that will go to the supreme court and Idahoan.s do not have access
to what they use to call home. So much was changed. Are we really going to allow
this again. McCall has a way of live and that will be ruined with this land swap.
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Public Comment Via Email
Asof noon,on7/7/2020
for the 7/09/2020City Council Meeting
Concern at 07/06/2020 11:24 AM
First Name:Julie
Last Name: Murphy
Address: 302 Mather Road
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Trident holdings. My people are generations long in Idaho. My grandfather, public
relations office with the university of Idaho, hated it when businesses came in to
harvest huckleberries to sell by ripping the bushes from their roots. My other father,
labor relations with Boise Cascade and an Emmett Basque, thought Idaho perfect
and refused to move. He hated growth. With Boise exploding, McCall is being
targeted by developers. It’s going to lose all the charm of a small lake town that
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McCall council has encouraged by not letting in chain stores and restaurants. The
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lake is now fully developed. It has a good mix of woodlands and structures. Move
development will ruin the water quality create more noise and more boats and more
cars no parking. Who wants so many cars that a parking garage has to be built.
Control Growth. Please do not let big money ruin the place. McCall has been
discovered. We must hold back the developers that have found McCall’s beauty and
want to exploit it. Thanks Julie Murphy
Concern at 07/06/2020 1:25 PM
First Name:Stephen
Last Name: Cobb
Address: 3720 Rim Road
City:New Meadows
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83654
I'm concerned with the recent proposal by Trident to purchase IDL lands adjacent to
Payette Lake. As a long term resident of Adams County, I'm deeply distressed by the
changes this would lead to. I love our relatively undeveloped slice of paradise and
Describe Your development of this scale would forever relegate our beautiful area to one of
Concern: congestion and hoards of humanity. I strongly plead that the City of McCall resist this
move with whatever means you can bring to bear. Perhaps you could propose a land
exchange between the USFS and IDL to insure that lands next to Payette Lake remain
recreational and not developed. Thanks for your consideration and time.
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Concern at 07/06/2020 2:30 PM
First Name:Janel
Last Name: Blount
Address: 231 Ernesto
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Trinity Development. Please do not give away 28,000 acres of public land and
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destroy McCall. If you do McCall will only be for the rich, no access for all the
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people of Idaho.
Concern at 07/06/2020 2:38 PM
First Name:Katrina
Last Name: Gallafent
Address: 2831 E Parkriver Dr
City:Boise
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83706
I am writing to express my concern about Trident LLC's proposed land exchange in
and around McCall. I grew up in McCall and treasure the public lands and natural
Describe Your beauty that so many people have worked and sacrificed to keep. I trust that you as a
Concern: council will do your best to protect the land we all love and reject this proposal.
Thank you for your work on behalf of the residents of McCall and those of us who no
longer live there, but love it deeply.
Concern at 07/06/2020 5:34 PM
First Name:Julie
Last Name: Murphy
Address: 302 Mather road
City:Mccall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Endowed lands were endowed to the state for the state to mange financially and to
keep out of the private sector. Certainly there are other endowed lands to sell for
profit if need be. Cascade lake has already suffered from toxic algae. Taking more
land from around the lakes and rivers that feel into them means more pollution
Describe Your more herbicides more people pollution. There are very few natural mountain lakes in
Concern: the United States, very few. Payette lake is a state and national treasure. Please treat
it as a such and not a land grab for developers. Idaho should realize other ways to
profit from this land this prize that was given to them. The state is the people. Any
institution that wants to profit off the back of such a lovely natural area as Payette
lake is not really looking to Idaho’s future. All that money won and so very much lost.
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Concern at 07/06/2020 5:51 PM
First Name:Julie
Last Name: Murphy
Address: 302 Mather road
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Describe Your More Toxic algae, people pollution. All because the state can’t figure out how to
Concern: profit from endowed lands (a sacred trust) other than to sell them.
Concern at 07/06/2020 6:42 PM
First Name:Linda
Last Name: Burns
Address: 1485 Dragonfly Loop
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 82738
Describe Your I am against Trident Holdings proposal for a land swap. Please register my
Concern: opposition at the council meeting.
Concern at 07/06/2020 6:49 PM
First Name:Angela
Last Name: Black
Address: PO Box 3077
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code:83638-3077
I am against privatizing our state lands. Our ability to recreate in and around our
beautiful state is dwindling. I am a born and raised Idaho native and am disheartened
that we have turned from a place that we can enjoy to being locked out of everything
and can't even go relax on the mountain. If we are not careful we WILL turn into a
little California and prices will skyrocket and push more people into poverty. My
Describe Your voice may not count alot but I will make it heard. My heart breaks at the thought of
Concern: more huge land purchases pushing our next generation into a plunging downward
spiral of not even being able to survive. This affects our hunting, fishing, and more
importantly our ability to live off the land that so many of us have been taught to do.
I was broughtup living off the land as a food source and respecting our forests. Large
corporations will come in a destroy our forests and way of life. I am 100% against the
land sale to Trident Holdings
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Concern at 07/06/2020 6:54 PM
First Name:Julie
Last Name: Murphy
Address: 302 Mather road
City:Mccall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Describe Your The sale can’t go through until there is an environmental study on impact this
Concern: sale will have
Concern at 07/06/2020 8:48 PM
First Name:Sandra
Last Name: Schultz
Address: 1325 Greystone Drive
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Describe Your Concern:I believe the Trident Holdings land swap proposal should be denied.
Concern at 07/07/2020 7:52 AM
First Name:Sandra
Last Name: Roseburg
Address: 3319 E Princess Amy Ct
City:Nampa
State/Province: ID
Zip Code:83687
Trident land swap should be denied. Citizens of Idaho who enjoy Payette Lake, North
Fork Payette River, and Little Payette should have acces. Please don't turn this area
Describe Your into a location for the rich like Cascadia Corp. in Central Washinton. The old mining
Concern: town of Roslyn overrun, access to areas around Roslyn & upper county no longer
available to public. This includes hunting and fishing. Protect the environment. Hands
off Payette.
Concern at 07/07/2020 10:34 AM
First Name:Darby
Last Name: Webb
Address: 1299 Warren Wagon Rd
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83702
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In the past week, I have learned of the proposed land swap by Trident Holdings to
acquire 28,000 acres of land around Payette Lake. I own a home in McCall and we
value these public lands tremendously. Much of our time is spent enjoying the hiking,
biking, and kayaking in these proposed areas. This development would also affect
hunting and potentially water quality in Payette Lake. Unfortunately, this issue was
made public within a few weeks of Land Board meetings without adequate time for
public input. If the quoted $276K management cost yearly is an issue for the city of
McCall, please allow other options/solutions rather than more development. These
lands are priceless and once privatized, they are gone. Please do not allow another
Describe Your Wilks Brothers type of situation without thorough public input. It was devastating to
Concern: people of this state to have access closed for camping, hunting, biking, hiking, fishing,
dirt bike/atv riding, snowmobiling, skiing, and all other outdoor activities that we as
Idahoans enjoy. These lands are what makes our quality of life here in Idaho so
appreciated. The way this has been presented as “Preserve Idaho” to the public in
such a short time frame is underhanded and suspect. There is no obvious information
on your website or being publicized. Development is in stark contrast to
preservation. Trident holdings is a FOR profit entity that intends to sell our precious
and valuable land for their financial benefits. To claim otherwise and to try to pull the
wool over the eyes of the citizens of Idaho is a disservice to the elected and
appointed public offices you hold.
Concern at 07/07/2020 10:42 AM
First Name:Barbara
Last Name: Pyle
Address: 13686 Farm to Market Rd
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
The Trident proposal for developing the eastside public land is unacceptable and this
land trade should not happen. Trident's interest is a business scheme for profit and
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has nothing to do with taking care of the public interest. Do not let big money
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control the future of our community. Keep public land public. That will be in our best
interest.
Concern at 07/07/2020 10:52 AM
First Name:Anna
Last Name: Clark
Address: PO Box 1832
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Describe Your Concerning the proposed land swap between the State of Idaho and Trident
Concern: Holdings. Idaho is NOT for sale. Certain properties should be appraised on values
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other than board foot of lumber or mineral rights. The value of this property is in the
immediate access to recreational activities, hiking, fishing, hunting, berry picking, etc.
People come to McCall and spend their money here while recreating in the area of
this proposed land swap. They do not come to McCall to stand at a property
boundary and stare up at the McMansions of the rich. The last thing this area needs
is more huge, unsustainable homes displacing the native plants and animals. The last
thing Payette Lake needs is a build-up of nitrogen and phosphates washed down
from the extensive landscaping around those very same homes. Trident Holdings is
spending a lot of money to white-wash this land swap. Don't fall for it. Sincerely,
Anna Clark
Concern at 07/07/2020 12:19 PM
First Name:Douglas
Last Name: Smith
Address:1299 Warren Wagon Road
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Greetings, Recently and disturbingly, I learned of the proposed land swap by Trident
Holdings to acquire 28,000 acres of land around Payette Lake. I now own a home in
McCall and value these public lands beyond measure. I have generations of family
who’ve spent time enjoying the hiking, biking, hunting, fishing, and kayaking in these
proposed areas and want to keep it that way. I don’t care how you “sugarcoat” this
proposal and attempt to put a positive spin on this “Preserve McCall” land swap, this
whole thing wreaks of underhanded non-transparent dealings and behind-closed-
door lobbying. Please explain to me why board members sheepishly felt the need to
admit and come clean, one by one, of having individualized private meetings with
Trident Holdings moments before the issue was presented in a recent IDL board
meeting. I know the answer and so do you! This issue has been made public within a
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few weeks of additional board meetings without adequate time for public input. I
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can’t even find this issue mentioned on the IDL website. According to Trident
Holdings analysis, $276K is the drain on the State of Idaho from the McCall lands
annually. Seriously,...that’s it! That’s a drop in the bucket and surely we can find a
better way to close that deficit without privatizing 28,000 acres of pristine public
land. While Alec Williams claims this will not be another Wilks Brothers land grab,
true Idahoans know that Trident Holdings have ulterior motives fueled by greedy
profit at the expense of what makes Idaho and McCall special. Admittedly, I’ve never
been much of an activist but this issue has definitively captured my attention not
only for what it will affect and the magnitude of it, but equally in the way this whole
thing is being handled by officials I actually voted for and now I’m wondering if I’ve
made a mistake. Respectfully, Douglas Smith
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Additional Public Comment Via Email
As of noon, on 7/8/2020
for the 7/09/2020 City Council Meeting
Concern at 07/07/2020 1:04 PM
First Name:Diane
Last Name: Davies
Address: 3501 Cheasy Blvd. S.
City:Seattle
State/Province: WA
Zip Code: 98144
I am writing to express my strong opposition to the proposed land swap between
Idaho Dept. of Land and the Trident Group. I have family roots in McCall going back
more than 100 years, and I am a McCall property owner. This land swap would
Describe Your transfer an irreplaceable public asset into a private company's profit center. This
Concern: should not be allowed to happen. Having seen many private developers make
grandiose promises to the public and then not live up to them, I am highly skeptical
of Trident's long list of promises, and they do nothing to change my opinion that this
is a bad deal for the people of McCall.
Letter in opposition to Alec Williams' "heist" of our public lands
From: Krista Oberlindacher
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:41 PM
To: BessieJo Wagner
Subject: Letter in opposition to Alec Williams' "heist" of our public lands
Good Afternoon,
I would like to state that I oppose Trident's "saving" of McCall.He is an enthusiastic, young
developer who wants to somehow think he can get away with brokering a deal with land he
doesn't even own, and "swap" it with all the Idaho Land Trust lands surrounding the lake (you
know the map).
My family and I enjoyed hiking just outside of McCall a few days ago, where many people were
camping, hiking, biking, picking mushrooms and berries, motorcycle riding and ATVing,
probably horseback riding, and in winter, snowmobiliing and back country skiing, in addition to
snowshoeing and cross country skiing. My point is, MANY people live in and visit McCall
because of public lands.We can actually all get behind this.We can unite mask-wearers and
non-mask-wearers alike. I implore you to not give it away.
If there is a question of raising short of $300,000 to manage these lands, why don't you (along
with other agencies, or the state) develop a fee for people wanting to recreate there?A small
pay-to-play membership fee.Look at Oregon's state recreation fee to start.You might look at
the Idaho Department of Parks and Recreations' $10 park pass (I'll just bet they make more than
$300k per year on that program).
Thank you for your consideration,
Krista Oberlindacher
1401 Roosevelt
McCall, ID
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Additional Comments
July 8, 2020
Concern at 07/07/2020 1:47 PM
First Name:Tami
Last Name: Loshaw
Address:
City:Kuna
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Describe Your Concern:We really like McCall and would like it to save as preserved as possible.
Concern at 07/07/2020 1:49 PM
First Name:Tom
Last Name: Smith
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
I rented an RZR from CM Backcountry this past weekend. As soon as we approached
Describe Your
the building we were told it was a mask free zone and we did not have to wear our
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mask. There disrespect for others is astounding.
Concern at 07/07/2020 6:27 PM
First Name:Meredith
Last Name: Smith
Address: 275 N Edgewood Lane
City:Eagle
State/Province: ID
Zip Code:83616
In the past week, I have learned of the proposed land swap by Trident Holdings to
acquire 28,000 acres of land around Payette Lake. I been going to McCall for 50 years
and we value these public lands tremendously. Much of our time is spent enjoying
the hiking, biking, and kayaking in these proposed areas. This development would
also affect hunting and potentially water quality in Payette Lake. Unfortunately, this
issue was made public within a few weeks of Land Board meetings without adequate
time for public input. If the quoted $276K management cost yearly is an issue for the
Describe Your city of McCall, please allow other options/solutions rather than more development.
Concern: These lands are priceless and once privatized, they are gone. Please do not allow
another Wilks Brothers type of situation without thorough public input. It was
devastating to people of this state to have access closed for camping, hunting, biking,
hiking, fishing, dirt bike/atv riding, snowmobiling, skiing, and all other outdoor
activities that we as Idahoans enjoy. These lands are what makes our quality of life
here in Idaho so appreciated. The way this has been presented as “Preserve Idaho”
to the public in such a short time frame is underhanded and suspect. There is no
obvious information on your website or being publicized. Development is in stark
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Additional Comments
July 8, 2020
contrast to preservation. Trident holdings is a FOR profit entity that intends to sell
our precious and valuable land for their financial benefits. To claim otherwise and to
try to pull the wool over the eyes of the citizens of Idaho is a disservice to the elected
and appointed public offices you hold.
Concern at 07/07/2020 7:25 PM
First Name:Colleen
Last Name: Parker
Address:1311 Hubbard Dr
City:McCall
State/Province:ID
Zip Code: 83638
I am writing to voice my opposition to the Payette Lake Land Exchange Proposal. As a
citizen of McCall, I believe this land should remain a public land. McCall and the
Describe Your surrounding area is an amazing place and we should not allow the privatization of
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OUR natural resources to change our homeland into one of the million-dollar
playgrounds that already exist across the world. Please do what’s right and keep this
land where it belongs... in the hands of the public.
Concern at 07/07/2020 7:45 PM
First Name:Jane
Last Name: Dunbar
Address: 321 Heikkila Lane
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Selling treasured land around Payette Lake would be a travesty. It is the pristine land
Describe Your around the lake, the gorgeous views when hiking or boating, the knowledge that this
Concern: land belongs to all of us, rich or poor. Please don’t consider giving it away. Once sold,
a treasure is gone forever.
Concern at 06/29/2020 9:30 PM
First Name:Julie
Last Name: Manning
Address: 2071 Lakeview Ave
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
I read in the newspaper that a new Boise developer who set up an LLC in January
2020 is trying to swap land in northern Idaho for 28,000 acres of State endowment
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lands near Payette Lake/McCall. This sounds like a terrible idea for McCall, its
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residents, public lands, and the public. I'm very concerned about this and hope the
State Land Board says no.
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Additional Comments
July 8, 2020
Stop McCall Public Land TheftJuly 3, 2020 at 8:45:07 AM MDT
From: "Thomas Manning, MD"
Hi Mike,
This guy Alec Williams is bad. He needs to get stopped. The Land Board needs to hear that the people of
Idaho across the state who appreciate McCall and wild places are opposed to the theft of their Public
Land. I sent the below message to a lot of McCall folks yesterday. Let me know how I can help.
Tom Manning
Read closely the minutes of the June 16 Idaho Land Board meeting. See below. Paragraph 8. Each of the
five elected officials had to somewhat sheepishly admit for the record that (outside of and in advance of
the Land Board meeting), they (or in one case their staff) had each met with Alec Williams of Trident
Holdings to be briefed on his proposal to effectively steal 28,000 acres of the public land around
McCall. Land used daily by wildlife and Idaho citizens. Elk and Moose and innumerable other wildlife live
in these lands and migrate thru those corridors.
The Trident team that briefed our elected officials using insider access was made up of:
Alec Williams- 33 year old Ivy League-educated MBA/JD. Brief service as a Navy SEAL. Now trying to
capitalize upon and sell the SEAL brand (Trident). Intimately connected with East Coast New York Private
Equity firms. Trying to portray himself as a local boy trying to “preserve” these 28,000 acres of public
land.
Greg Casey- Lobbyist, formerly CEO of BIPAC. Now at Veritas. Made headlines in 2014 for parking his
Bentley sports car yards from the US Capital. Consummate “Money buys access” guy.
Erika Malman- Natural Resources Lawyer with Perkins Coie.
David Lehman-Lobbyist with Primus Policy Group
David New-Timber Industry Consultant. Formerly at Boise Cascade.
Do not allow this theft of public land to go forward! Send letters to the Land Board and to each member
of the board individually. Write to your representatives. Write to the McCall City Council. Write to the
Valley County Commissioners. Write today! Write often!
https://www.idl.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/116/land-board/lb/documents-monthly/061620-
summary-minutes-land-board.pdf
Concern at 07/08/2020 10:20 AM
First Name:Julie
Last Name: Murphy
Address: 302 Mather road
City:McCall
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Additional Comments
July 8, 2020
State/Province:ID
Zip Code: 83638
85,000 for 28,000 acres is 3,035 per acre. Hardly the going rate fro the man on the
street to buy lake property. First of all how is this a fiduciary deal for the schools of
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Idaho. Second I can see why the trident guy quit his current job to put this together.
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The state is literally giving away land. A fire sale on McCall lake. Me thinks there is
something wrong in the state. Of Denmark (Idaho).
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Additional Public Comment Via Email
As of 3:00 pm, on 7/9/2020
for the 7/09/2020 City Council Meeting
Concern at 07/08/2020 12:58 PM
First Name:Donald
Last Name: Taylor
Address: 6591 E. Greens Dr.
City:Nampa
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83687
I would like to state my opposition to the "land swap" being proposed for Idaho State
Endowment lands around the Payette Lakes area. My family has lived on Little
Payette for many years and have seen proposals come and go. It's not always about
money but in this case I believe that it is no matter how you look at it. No one can
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Concern: guarantee that access will be granted in perpetuity. If you have enough money you
can get pretty much any result that you want Do what is right . When the deal is
done the residents and visitors will be left holding the bag while the developers will
take thier cash and go back where they came from.
Subject: Letter of comments for City Council July 9 meeting.
From: Linda Corder
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:00 PM
To: BessieJo Wagner <bwagner@mccall.id.us>
Dear McCall City Council Members:
Regarding the proposal by Trident HoldingsIdaho, Company to do a land exchange with the State of
Idaho in the area surrounding McCall, it is not clear to me what role the City of McCall can play in this
proposal. Never the less, I would like to make some comments and propose some questionsfor your
consideration.
The lands proposed for this project are key to the enjoyment of this beautiful part of Idaho. The State of
Idaho is legally bound to collect revenues from these lands in order to fund state institutions and support
education. At the same time, tourism is one of the driving forces of the economy of Idaho. Developing
lands in the forests of Valley County and surrounding Payette Lake threatens the attraction of the area and
thus threatens the tourism economy of Valley County.
Trident Company proposes to trade land in northern Idaho that is ripe for timber harvest to the State in
exchange for the land within Valley County. The timber would be harvested to create revenue for the
state, but once the timber is harvested, that land then becomes unattractive and unavailable for other uses,
and thus for other sources of revenue for the following 100 years, or so. Is this the best revenue-
generating use we could make of state-owned lands?
If logging timberlandin northern Idaho werethebest moneymakingdeal for the state, wouldn’t it be the
best moneymakingdeal for Trident Company? Whydoesn’t Trident choose to make a profit by logging
that land in northern Idaho themselves? I believe they see more potential for profitin exploiting the land
the state owns in Valley County. Can the State of Idaho find a way to make money off the land they
already own here?
What bonding can the city impose on Trident Company to defray costsof infrastructure development to
the city?
Does Trident own land in northern Idaho that could be traded to the state, or are they depending on selling
land that thestate owns to finance a purchase of land to be traded to the state in exchange for the land
they sell while the state owns it?
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What land in northern Idaho is Trident proposing to trade to the State? What would be the impact to
residents in that area of logging that land?
Should we entrust 28,000 acres of our best land to the stewardship of a company that has been in
existence for six months and apparently was formed for the sole purpose of exploiting Valley County?
I hope these questions will be useful,as we are very early in the process of considering the proposal.I
hope all government entities will be very careful to consider all impacts of this proposal before moving
forward.Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Linda L. Corder,
903 BuckboardWay, Mc Call, Idaho 83638
Concern at 07/08/2020 3:36 PM
First Name:Mike
Last Name: Laur
Address: 1689 Lick Creak Rd(LaurLane)
City:Mccall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
AB 20-198 Trident land swap proposal. Has the Idaho DEQ been notified regarding
this proposal? The current population growth in and around Mccall has clearly had an
environmental quality impact including significant increase in air pollution, land and
water pollution, light pollution, and sound pollution. State endowment land around
the Payette Lakes and Mccall has created an environmental buffer reducing the
human impact on Idaho’s precious and most important natural resource it wilderness
and forest lands. I am most strongly against this proposal. Over the last 55 years I
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have observed the environmental impact human encroachment has played upon the
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surrounding wildlife and wilderness of Mccall Idaho. Natural habitats have been
significantly impacted and animals have been displaced by human encroachment
thus far. The proposal will multiply the impact 1000 fold similar to Lake Tahoe which
has had significant Environmental damage due to overdevelopment after state land
was given over to private developement. Idaho’s precious resources such as Mccall
Idaho and its surrounding wilderness cannot be resurrected once it is buried under
concrete, pavement and the human Footprint.
Concern at 07/08/2020 5:31 PM
First Name:Jim & Debra
Last Name: Staup
Address:
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
We are writing to you our strong opposition regarding the proposal to give Trident
Holdings Development Company our 28,000 acres of Endowment Land. We have
Describe Your read their letter and feel this is not in the best interests of our community/ county. In
Concern: the 50 plus years we have been here, we have seen how much public land and public
access to our lake have been sold to private entities or has just 'disappeared'. To lose
this land would be wrong. The beauty of public land is that everyone, regardless of
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economic status, are able to enjoy it equally. We believe giving it up to any developer
will eventually turn it into a playground for a select few. Keep in mind the purpose of
a developer is to ultimately make money for their company. There are other avenues
which should be explored to make it more economically viable while keeping it public
land. We feel our community and county need to continue addressing the more
pressings issues of our infrastructure and housing issues, etc. This development very
likely will impact our area negatively even more. There is so much more we could say
about the cons regarding this proposal, but suffice to say we are against this proposal
and strongly believe our 28,000 acres of Endowment Land needs to remain public.
Thank you.
Concern at 07/08/2020 8:21 PM
First Name:Claire
Last Name: Murphy
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
I am concerned about the sale of the North Beach area to Trident Holdings. This is a
precious area I have been visiting since I was a baby. My parents now live in McCall
and I have relatives there. Why would you sell this precious land to potential
Describe Your developers? McCall is being overrun- we need to keep some wild! We even used to
Concern: see moose there. It is great access for low income I individuals who can camp and
enjoy the scenery- not the rich who are never in their mansions (which also have a
negative environmental impact). Please preserve this area. Giving it away is not
progress. Protect the assets of the area. Thank you.
Concern at 07/09/2020 2:30 AM
First Name:Andy
Last Name: Zahn
Address:
City:Toutle
State/Province: WA
Zip Code: 98649
Hello, I am writing to voice my strong opposition to the proposed Payette Lake Land
Exchange. This exchange is a bad deal for McCall, the people who call it home, and
those who, like me, visit from afar. It would rob the public of lands that are valued by
thousands of residents and visitors who utilize them in a variety of ways, as well as
the wilderness character that provides so spectacular a backdrop to McCall and
Describe Your Payette Lake. My family has deep roots in McCall, my mother grew up there, and my
Concern: Great Grandfather built a cabin on the shores of Payette Lake, which we still own and
visit every summer. I have spent so many golden summer days exploring the lake
shore, fishing, hiking, climbing around Payette Lake, which has made the Idaho State
Lands there as familiar to me as my own backyard. The thought of this beautiful and
wild landscape being torn apart by developers is distressing indeed. This land is held
dear by many, is vital to McCall's outdoor recreation based economy, and provides
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necessary habitat for thriving natural ecosystems, including riparian ecosystems that
maintain the water quality of Payette Lake. Trident Holdings makes numerous false
or misleading claims in its proposal. They suggest that Idaho is losing money on the
land in question. This is demonstrably false, as public land generates significant
indirect government revenue as a result of the positive economic impact it has on the
economy. According to outdoorindustry.org, outdoor recreation generates 7.8 Billion
dollars every year in Idaho, and 447 Million dollars in state and local tax revenue.
McCall is a community that is built primarily upon a foundation of outdoor
recreation, and outdoor recreation requires large areas of accessible public land to
flourish. The Idaho State Lands in question generate far more government revenue
indirectly by enabling a vibrant outdoor recreation based economy than direct
revenue sources such as logging ever could. Trident Holdings is offering in exchange
what is essentially a timber farm with no recreational value to Idaho’s economy, and
no value whatsoever to McCall. Trident claims they would preserve access around
McCall, but has little to back up those claims. They present a facade of altruism that
is sure to vanish as soon as they get what they want. The falseness of Trident Holding
LLC’s friendly face is revealed when you realize that they are only valuing these
28,000 acres of land, including incredibly valuable lakefront property, at only
$85,000,000, which works out to just $3,035 per acre. That is a mere fraction of what
the value of this land, and a mere pittance compared to its value to the region's
economy in the long term. What Trident is offering isn’t a solution to a problem, they
are a corporation looking to profit at the expense of everyone who loves McCall and
Payette Lake. They are a wolf in sheep's clothing. The state lands around McCall and
Payette Lake must remain in public hands, and we must ensure that they continue to
be owned and enjoyed by the public for generations to come. The ideal solution
would be to expand Ponderosa State Park to include all the state lands around
McCall and Payette Lake. I hope that you will take my words into consideration and
oppose the disastrous Payette Lake Land Exchange. Sincerely, Andy Zahn
Concern at 07/09/2020 8:11 AM
First Name:Sean
Last Name: Gould
Address:506 Gamble Rd
City:McCall
State/Province:ID
Zip Code: 83638
Trident Holding's proposed land swap is such a significant potential threat to the
character, recreational value, and environment of our community and its
surroundings that I feel obliged submit a comment even if it is undoubtedly already
obvious to you: please approach this issue with extreme skepticism and caution. I've
been sick for days at the thought of a firewall of mansion/cabins blocking off access
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to The Cliffs or the various wandering and climbing places around Big and Little Lake,
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nor do we need an "Avimore North" tucked away somewhere along Lake Fork Creek
halfway up Lick Crick Road (imagine a stop light on Lick Crick Road by the old Brown's
reservoir!). Before I would be willing to consider warming my position towards this
proposal beyond a guarded hostility, I would need to see a parcel by parcel
statement of Trident's exact plans, down to building details, and reliable voucher
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that those plans are a guaranteed safeguard of the places our community loves.
Thank you, Sean.
Concern at 07/09/2020 8:19 AM
First Name:James
Last Name:Zokam
Address: 1401 Roosevelt
City:McCall
State/Province:
Zip Code: 83638
City needs a mail drop box in the downtown near City Hall and the 3 banks for
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business and out of town visitors. It is about convenience and keeping cars off the
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road by reducing trips to the post office all the way at other end of town.
Concern at 07/09/2020 10:18 AM
First Name:John
Last Name: Lewinski
Address: Box 596, 606 Syringa Drive
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
I would like the city to oppose the Trident proposal to take over state land
surrounding our town. I have gathered firewood and fed my family with the elk I
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have killed in this area. It is the easiest go to area that you can get away from the
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crowds on public land. Please oppose this private proposal that puts in jeopardy the
quality of life that we live here for.
Concern at 07/09/2020 11:08 AM
First Name:Amber
Last Name: Dalgleish
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Describe Your Privatization of this land would deny people access to wilderness and recreational
Concern: use. Keep public land public, because it can never go back to being public again.
Concern at 07/09/2020 12:08 PM
First Name:marlee
Last Name: wilcomb
Address: po box 3131
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
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Zip Code:83638
I urge the City Council to voice their opposition to the proposed Trident land
acquisition of land surrounding Payette Lake and the McCall area. It will negatively
affect the quality of life that brings thousands of visitors to our area and put stress on
an already stresses lake. So far, the state of Idaho has done a lousy job of protecting
public easement or access through private lands (Texas Frackers/ Potlatch land sale is
a good example). Valley County and McCall do not need more private gated
communities which only close local residents and visitors out of our land and frankly,
add very little to the actual functioning of the town or neighborhoods - except
perhaps a tax base. I oppose the trade or sale of State land to any private
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"developer". If the State needs to generate revenue, I would consider paying $20 per
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year to access the State Lands and back country through a "tag" like they do
Ponderosa Park- at least the state would be able to keep logging the land, keep it
into perpetuity for our grandchildren to enjoy and still provide some funding for our
schools ad mandated. One other comment: THANK YOU, Thank you City Council for
making the mask order!!!! It really has made things easier and hopefully safer for our
community. Three weeks ago, an older neighbor was wearing a mask outside of the
grocery store and some gal in a car yelled ".....Sheep!" Now, it is the mandate of the
area and the store owners and workers do not have to contend with the crazy
rudeness of some who refuse to wear a mask in their stores.
Concern at 07/09/2020 12:11 PM
First Name:Mark
Last Name: Sherbourne
Address: 13962 Easy St.
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
There appears to be significant opposition to the proposed land exchange between
Trident Holdings and the state of Idaho. There may be ways for Trident to mitigate
Describe Your impacts to locals by supporting other outdoor opportunities like River Front Park.
Concern: Examining use levels of the selected state lands versus McCall city parks may show a
greater benefit to the general public by developing recreation opportunities within
the McCall city limits.
Subject: Potential Land Transfer
From: Jeffrey Mousseau
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:47 PM
To: Bob Giles <bgiles@mccall.id.us>; Colby Nielsen <cnielsen@mccall.id.us>; Melanie Holmes
<mholmes@mccall.id.us>; Thomas Sowers <tsowers@mccall.id.us>; Mike Maciaszek
<mmaciaszek@mccall.id.us>; BessieJo Wagner <bwagner@mccall.id.us>
I am writing to express my strong opposition to exchanging 28,000 acres of endowment lands managed
by the Idaho Department of Lands (IDL) in the McCall area as proposed by to the IDL and Trident
Holdings and others in the past. These lands serve as a fundamental open and wild land resource to the
residents of McCall, Valley County and the State of Idaho and should remain public, protected under
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State of Idaho control for perceptuality. In no case should these lands be liquidated through leasing,
exchanging or selling for private ownership.
I watched with trepidation as similar land first owned by Boise Cascade was sold to multiple timber
companies (who all allowed public access), and then in horror as these same properties including
172.000 acres in Valley County were sold to private owners DF Development who then immediately
eliminated all public access to these lands which also blocked access to tens of thousands of additional
acres. This should never be allowed to happen again in Valley County! Even though Trident Holdings
may provide assurances of access and water quality, the example of DF development demonstrates how
management conditions can drastically change over time. I am asking you to halt any further
consideration of the IDL proposal to move these endowment lands to private ownership.
I am a lifelong resident of the State of Idaho for the past 61 years and a resident of McCall. I am an avid
outdoorsman and extensively use public managed lands including these endowment lands. There are
many others like me. These lands boarder half of the entirety of McCall; provide prime wildlife habitat;
include waterways and watersheds that are the drinking water supply; and provide many recreational
opportunities from camping to hiking to birdwatching to woodcutting. Endowment lands are
special. When Idaho was admitted to the Union in 1890, it was granted 3,672,000 acres of land
to support state institutions, primarily the state’s public-school system. The land was granted
under the condition that it be managed in perpetuity as a trust for the beneficiary
institutions. For the IDL is to meet its vision of being the premier organization for trust
management and resource protection in the western United States it needs to focus not only on
financial return, but on the long-term interests of resource protection and using the resource as
intended, not providing it for sale or transfer private development. The McCall endowment
lands should not be for lease, exchange or trade.
Jeff Mousseau
McCall, ID
Concern at 07/09/2020 1:07 PM
First Name:Michelle
Last Name: Blank
Address: PO Box 52
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
I wanted to write and thank the council for passing the mask ordinance. It has been a
great source of frustration to see some businesses and people refusing to participate
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in a simple act of community caring that allows our economy to restart while
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protecting all of us from COVID-19. Thanks for stepping up to protect residents
during our current McCall Covid-19 outbreak.
Concern at 07/09/2020 1:18 PM
First Name:Julia
Last Name: Lewis
Address: 1103 N 24th St.
City:Boise
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83702
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I have major concerns for the privatization of the public land in Payette. I don’t
believe that this would have a benefit for Idaho and our land here. I am a boise
Describe Your resident and have lived here with my family my whole life and this land in Idaho has
Concern: been benefits to our population being public and safely able to roam. I really hope
that we are taking into consideration the residents who have lived in McCall and use
this land publicly.
Concern at 07/09/2020 1:22 PM
First Name:Callie
Last Name: Nokes
Address:
City:DONNELLY
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83615
I wanted to express my opposition to the privatization of our public lands. I feel we
are slowly losing what makes this area so special to people who have lots of money
Describe Your in their pockets. We don't need more homes here, we don't need more people
Concern: populating - as a school teacher I have seen class sizes almost double in the past 3
years. Our buildings can't keep up with this influx. Keep the land public - don't think
with your bank account - don't ruin this amazing place.
Concern at 07/09/2020 1:38 PM
First Name:Hannah
Last Name: Guju
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Describe Your Concern:Keep the lands private & wild around lake Payette!! Do not sell them!!
Concern at 07/09/2020 1:39 PM
First Name:Jessica
Last Name: Cafferty
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Please do NOT sell public lands for a trade with North Idaho. These lands are
precious to the PUBLIC and it is in our collective best interest to maintain and use
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them! The Payette lake region is special, unique and lovely and with these lands in
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private hands, we risk losing those attributes. Please do not sell or trade public lands
for the sake of profit.
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Concern at 07/09/2020 2:05 PM
First Name:John
Last Name: Doe
Email Address:bbdt7793@gmail.com
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
How is the city of McCall going to justify having the largest golf tournament in the
northwest at the end of the month? 352 golfers + their families are going to come
into our town and then leave us with the virus? I understand the course is city
operated and the funding from the tournament is big but is it worth the lives of our
Describe Your residents? I hope that you will look into this and do the right thing by cancelling the
Concern: tournament. I am currently signed up to play in the tournament, i love playing in the
tournament, but I can justify having it this year to save the pro from having a rough
cash flow season and the city taking ownership of the virus being passed through the
likely 1,000 people that will be on the course those 4-days (let alone the womens
tournament and childrens tournament earlier in the week).
Concern at 07/09/2020 2:26 PM
First Name:Lauren
Last Name: Brassey
Address: 2333 W. Ellis Ave
City:Boise
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83702
Hello, writing in to express concerns about the proposal for public land swap. What
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does this do to public accessibility in the area and environmental impact? Thank
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you,
Concern at 07/09/2020 2:45 PM
First Name:Patricia
Last Name: Braganza
Address: 1201 Roosevelt
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
I am opposed to the proposed land swap with Trident Holdings. My family has
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owned and lived in McCall since 1957 and I cherish the open, accessible lands
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surrounding our community.
Subject: Public Comment 7/9
From: Melissa Newell
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:46 PM
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To: BessieJo Wagner <bwagner@mccall.id.us>; Bob Giles <bgiles@mccall.id.us>; Anette Spickard
<aspickard@mccall.id.us>; Colby Nielsen <cnielsen@mccall.id.us>; Melanie Holmes
<mholmes@mccall.id.us>; Mike Maciaszek <mmaciaszek@mccall.id.us>; Thomas Sowers
<tsowers@mccall.id.us>
Dear City Council,
We are writing to comment on the proposed land swap. We urge the council, as a
representative of the citizens of McCall, to write a letter to the Land Board opposing Trident’s
proposal until more information is available about the specific land uses proposed, the specific
amount and type of development being considered, and the binding guarantees that access,
water quality, and environmental stewardship will not be compromised. At tonight’s meeting, we
ask that you do not show support for Alec William’s plans, and do not give him any sort of
blessing. However, we hope that you will ask a lot of questions.
First, some historical context is necessary.
Please consider the history and beneficiaries of Idaho endowment lands. There is discussion
around the use and value of, and control in, this land.These concepts of property, control, and
value are second nature to us.It can be easy to forget that only 160 years ago, a few decades
prior to the state being "granted" this land, that the Northern Shoshone Tribes (including the
Paiute and Bannock), along with the Nez Perce, regularly inhabited and utilized lands
encompassed in Trident's proposal for hunting, fishing, gathering, and other cultural
purposes.See "Hear Me My Chiefs, Nez Perce Legend and History," L.V. McWhorter, pg 24-28. In 1855
the Nez Perce ceded approximately 7 million acres of their aboriginal area by treaty with the United
States, land that extends south of Payette Lake. In 1863, by subsequent treaty, the Nez Perce ceded
approximately 7.5 million acres which diminished their reservation to 750,000 acres. Under the Dawes
Act in1887 this diminishment continued, which reduced the Nez perce Tribes holding to 250,000 acres in
north-central Idaho. Concurrently land south of the Nez Perce territory was seized by the United States
from the Sho-Pai, Sho-Ban, and other Shoshone bands, around 1863. See
https://www.landgrabu.org/landsfor a general overview.These cessations and seizures are
what allowed the United States to grant Idaho land as it entered statehood.
Please note that we feel strongly that Native American Tribes speak for themselves.At the
same time it is important to acknowledge this history when discussing these issues.Articulation
of ownership and use, particularly in a historical context, ought to be done in a way that
acknowledges these facts.
Trident’s proposal can be considered a product of the system that perpetuates the diminishment
of Native American land and rights. We think it’s time for us to take a step back and perhaps
consider a different land ethic than whatAlec Williams proposes. He says he wants to
“preserve this land” and pitches the idea that preservation cannot happen without development;
he makes the assumption that development in sensitive areas is inevitable. However, we need
to reevaluate these assumptions. There is such a thing called ecological limits. We are
questioning how “clustered developments” atop cliffs and hills and nestled away in the forest are
possible considering the vast amount of city resources that would be needed, from EMS
services to road maintenance, to the management of wastewater.Further development in the
area surrounding Payette Lake will unnecessarily burden the Payette Lakes Recreational Water
and Sewer District (PLRWSD) and we question whether PLRWSD will be able to continue its
mission to “protect the health and welfare of local citizens.”
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There are many solutions for increasing revenues and reducing costs. For example, the state
could generate revenues for the endowment fund by charging recreation user fees on these
lands, similar to fees paid into the invasive species fund. The state could work with conservation
organizations to put these lands under a conservation easement and those monies paid for the
conservation easement would go into the endowment fund. There are so many more solutions.
It’s time to bring all the stakeholders and citizens together for a real conversation.
We suggest that the council issue an invitation to the State Land Board, the Valley County
Commissioners and all citizens to engage in a conversation exploring other options for how to
ensure that these endowment lands provide the greatest public benefit for all: clean water,
healthy habitat for animals, and wild spaces for Idahoans to roam.
Finally, a few questions:
Why didn’t Alec Williams
approach the regional office first?
What exactly does he want
to do with the 28,000 acres? Does he have an acre by acre plan?
Thank you for considering our comments at tonight's meeting.
Sincerely,
Melissa and Fred Coriell
McCall
Concern at 07/09/2020 2:52 PM
First Name:Melissa and Fred
Last Name: Coriell
Address: 1109 Buckboard Way
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83638
Dear City Council, We are writing to comment on the proposed land swap. We urge
the council, as a representative of the citizens of McCall, to write a letter to the Land
Board opposing Trident’s proposal until more information is available about the
specific land uses proposed, the specific amount and type of development being
considered, and the binding guarantees that access, water quality, and
environmental stewardship will not be compromised. At tonight’s meeting, we ask
that you do not show support for Alec William’s plans, and do not give him any sort
Describe Your of blessing. However, we hope that you will ask a lot of questions. First, some
Concern: historical context is necessary. Please consider the history and beneficiaries of Idaho
endowment lands. There is discussion around the use and value of, and control in,
this land. These concepts of property, control, and value are second nature to us. It
can be easy to forget that only 160 years ago, a few decades prior to the state being
"granted" this land, that the Northern Shoshone Tribes (including the Paiute and
Bannock), along with the Nez Perce, regularly inhabited and utilized lands
encompassed in Trident's proposal for hunting, fishing, gathering, and other cultural
purposes. See "Hear Me My Chiefs, Nez Perce Legend and History," L.V. McWhorter,
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pg 24-28. In 1855 the Nez Perce ceded approximately 7 million acres of their
aboriginal area by treaty with the United States, land that extends south of Payette
Lake. In 1863, by subsequent treaty, the Nez Perce ceded approximately 7.5 million
acres which diminished their reservation to 750,000 acres. Under the Dawes Act
in1887 this diminishment continued, which reduced the Nez perce Tribes holding to
250,000 acres in north-central Idaho. Concurrently land south of the Nez Perce
territory was seized by the United States from the Sho-Pai, Sho-Ban, and other
Shoshone bands, around 1863. See https://www.landgrabu.org/landsfor a general
overview. These cessations and seizures are what allowed the United States to grant
Idaho land as it entered statehood. Please note that we feel strongly that Native
American Tribes speak for themselves. At the same time it is important to
acknowledge this history when discussing these issues. Articulation of ownership and
use, particularly in a historical context, ought to be done in a way that acknowledges
these facts. Trident’s proposal can be considered a product of the system that
perpetuates the diminishment of Native American land and rights. We think it’s time
for us to take a step back and perhaps consider a different land ethic than what Alec
Williams proposes. He says he wants to “preserve this land” and pitches the idea that
preservation cannot happen without development; he makes the assumption that
development in sensitive areas is inevitable. However, we need to reevaluate these
assumptions. There is such a thing called ecological limits. We are questioning how
“clustered developments” atop cliffs and hills and nestled away in the forest are
possible considering the vast amount of city resources that would be needed, from
EMS services to road maintenance, to the management of wastewater. Further
development in the area surrounding Payette Lake will unnecessarily burden the
Payette Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District (PLRWSD) and we question
whether PLRWSD will be able to continue its mission to “protect the health and
welfare of local citizens.” There are many solutions for increasing revenues and
reducing costs. For example, the state could generate revenues for the endowment
fund by charging recreation user fees on these lands, similar to fees paid into the
invasive species fund. The state could work with conservation organizations to put
these lands under a conservation easement and those monies paid for the
conservation easement would go into the endowment fund. There are so many more
solutions. It’s time to bring all the stakeholders and citizens together for a real
conversation. We suggest that the council issue an invitation to the Sta
te Land Board,
the Valley County Commissioners and all citizens to engage in a conversation
exploring other options for how to ensure that these endowment lands provide the
greatest public benefit for all: clean water, healthy habitat for animals, and wild
spaces for Idahoans to roam. Finally, a few questions: Why didn’t Alec Williams
approach the regional office first? What exactly does he want to do with the 28,000
acres? Does he have an acre by acre plan? Thank you for considering our comments.
Sincerely, Melissa and Fred Coriell McCall
Concern at 07/09/2020 3:00 PM
First Name:Annie
Last Name: Narver
Address: 1104 Knowles Road
City:McCall
State/Province: ID
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Zip Code:83638
July 9, 2020 Dear City Council Members, As regards the proposed Trident Holdings
land exchange, I understand the endowment lands in question are a means of
returning revenue to schools. As
a beneficiary of forest funds while an MDSD student
from 1990-2003 and as a teacher in the district, I understand these funds are
invaluable. Nevertheless, I’d like to draw attention to the Idaho Department of
Lands’ website, wherein it articulates its mission, vision, and commitment: “To
professionally and prudently manage Idaho’s endowment assets to maximize long-
term financial returns to public schools and other trust beneficiaries and to provide
professional assistance to the citizens of Idaho to use, protect and sustain their
natural resources” (emphases mine). The second clause highlights IDL’s commitment
to protecting and sustaining natural resources, and I believe this applies not only to
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private holdings, but also to public lands, for being used and enjoyed by the public,
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they, in effect, become “their natural resources.” Indeed, IDL’s vision is to: “be the
premier organization for trust management and resource protection in the western
United States,” and alongside representatives from the USDA, Forest Service, and the
State of Idaho, IDL’s director signed a pact on 12 December 2018 to collaborate in
stewardship with the aforementioned agencies to “reduce fuels and wildfire risk to
communities, create and sustain jobs, and improve forest health and resiliency.” In
short, I oppose the Trident Holdings land exchange, for, were it to occur, it could
inhibit appropriate forest management efforts. These keep tree species free of bug
infestations, disease, and overcrowding, which preserves wildlife habitat and reduces
fire risks. Thank you for considering my position on the matter alongside the views of
other McCall community members. Sincerely, Annie Narver
Concern at 07/09/2020 3:00 PM
First Name:Brianna
Last Name: MCREYNOLDS
Address: 2112 N 20th Street
City:Boise
State/Province: ID
Zip Code: 83702
I am extremely concerned about plans to redevelop the 28,000 acres of land in
McCall. It seems that there is no regards to the people who live here, own land here,
and travelled here for decades. This town cannot handle more traffic, more people.
Describe Your
The roads weren't built for it, the town was not built for it. The ski recreational areas
Concern:
were not built for it. The lake was not built for it. I oppose the idea of selling off this
land privately. I am an Idahoan, and have been for 31 years since birth. I don't
appreciate the lack of respect for our local forests.
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Additional Comments
July 9, 2020
McCall City Council
216 East Park Street
McCall, Idaho 83638
RE: AB 20-198 Trident Holdings-Proposal to the Idaho State Land Board about a
Potential Swap of Private Timberland for Idaho Department of Lands Endowment Lands
in McCall
Dear City Council,
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the presentation from Trident Holdings LLC
(Trident) on the proposal to the Idaho State Land Board about a potential swap of private
timberland for Idaho Department of Lands Endowment Lands in McCall. The Idaho Wildlife
Federation (IWF) ion organization, founded by sportsmen
and women in 1936. Today, we represent a nonpartisan voice of 28affiliate organizations with
45,000 affiliate membersand individual supporters
fish and wildlife, conserve their habitat, and maximize sporting opportunity for current and
wildlife management.
IWF and our McCall-area members haveserious concerns with many components ofthe
proposal and the potential impacts to both the City of McCall and Valley County. We believe
there are simply too many unknowns of a proposal this size for the public to support at this time.
Privatizing this landscape will alter how McCall residents and visitors experience McCall and
the surrounding area forever in a fundamental way.While we recognize the Council does not
have direct authority over the final decision made on the future of these lands, we would still like
the Council to hear our hesitations.
IWF fully understands that managementof endowment landsdiffer from Federally managed
public lands. Management of these lands is entrusted to the State Board of Land Commissioners
(Land Board), while Idaho Department of Lands (IDL) carries out thedirectives from the Land
Board as well as the constitutionalmandateto maximize long-termfinancial return to the State.
Access to these lands for the public is not always guaranteedand IDL is not required to provide
access. That said, the majority of the endowment land parcels around McCall arecurrently
accessible for recreation. Despite conversations with Trident, IWF is not convinced that this
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proposal will provide for a net-gain of public access for recreation in the McCall area and may
actually contribute to a net-loss of access state-wide. IWF has not received concrete examples
from Trident of which areas around McCall would be set-aside for public access, open-space,
conservation, or recreational values. Additionally, IWF has not been able to receive information
onspecific areas where inevitable development would occuron thecurrent endowment parcels,
how much development would occur, and what assurances the public will be provided to ensure
that the landscape is developed responsibly with wildlife and open-space in mind.
It is also important to consider the recent contractsigned between the Idaho Department of Fish
and Game (IDFG) and the Idaho Department of Lands. IDFG now pays IDL-with funds
accrued from hunting and fishing license sales-in exchange for accessto IDL lands for the
public. This contract was specifically designed to allow IDL to turn down land sale and
exclusive-access lease proposals while fulfilling their constitutional obligation by weighing the
loss of perpetual IDFG funding against a one-time sale of IDL lands. Even without this contract,
many have
Though outside of McCall, the potential swap of endowment lands involves an exchange for
private timberlands, likely in North Idaho. Many of the private timberlandsand timber
companies in North Idaho used as an example for a potential swap to the State are currently
under Access Yes! Agreementsand other access agreementswith Idaho Department of Fish &
Game (IDFG) to provide sportsman and women access onlarge swaths of private lands. When
asked about seeking parcels of private timberlands that are not currently under Access Yes!
Agreements with IDFG, Trident could not provide a direct answer.
-space and a trail network for the public in large sections of the
identified landscape is commendable, there is a lack of information provided on thefunding
structureto ensure that these areas, trails, and roads will be adequately maintained.Additionally,
we are unsure that Trident is fully understanding the additional burdens that this privatization
and increased development may put on the City of McCall and Valley County with fire
prevention and response with the expansion in the Wildland-Urban Interface. These ongoing
maintenance and prevention costs have not been answered in our conversations with Trident.
notion is that theonlyway to ensure public access to this landscape, allow IDL to
fulfill the constitutional mandate, and preserve open space in-and around McCall, is to privatize
them through this proposal. We .IWF fully supports a locally-
driven process to future of endowment lands around
McCall.We encourage the City Council, the Chamber of Commerce, and the Valley County
Commission to remain engaged in the process and reach out to all interested parties when
concerns arise. Thank you for your dedication to serving the City of McCalland for the
opportunity to write to the Council.
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