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HomeMy Public PortalAbout20060815_PCMinutes 1 MINUTES Planning Commission Meeting August 8, 2006 – 7:00 p.m. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos called the August 15, 2006 Planning Commission meeting to order. Other members present were Charlie Brewer, Barry Brown, Sandy Chandler, Bill Garbett, Susan Hill, Honor Hutton, Gene Kindrick, and Chuck Powell. City staff present: Dee Anderson, Diane Schleicher and Dianne Otto. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos said Mayor Jason Buelterman had performed the swearing in of new Planning Commission member Charlie Brewer earlier in the day. Tsoulos welcomed Brewer. Gene Kindrick motioned to approve the minutes of the July 10th agenda meeting. Bill Garbett seconded. The vote was unanimous. Bill Garbett motioned to approve the minutes of the July 17th meeting. Gene Kindrick seconded. The vote was unanimous. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos opened a Public Hearing for a Zoning Variance at 9 Lovell Avenue, PIN 4-0003-17- 005, Zone R-1-B. The variance from the Land Development Code was from Section 3-090, Schedule of Development Regulations. Petitioner Gail Lamb was requesting a variance of 3-inches into each side setback. Lamb said City Council sent her back to the Planning Commission because there was some misinformation. She said if the old cottage is moved or torn down, with the 200-foot rule, which allows a 10-foot front setback, two floors of new construction could be built which would be 3,438 square feet. Lamb said she is asking to use the 200-foot rule, raise the cottage and move it back 10 feet. She said she wants to put the old building behind it and leave the cottage on the first floor so she would not be using two full floors of the allowed building space. She said she might build a porch on the second floor. She said this would be a smaller building then if it had to be torn down. Lamb said she could square it off and do porches without a variance. Lamb said the total would be 3,162 square feet. She said she would have to cut 10 feet off the old building. Tsoulos asked the Commissioners if they had questions. Sandy Chandler asked if Lamb’s plans for moving the residence were the same. Lamb said yes. Barry Brown asked how long the power would be off. Lamb said the pole has been moved; the work is not finished but it should be before the cottage is moved. Bill Garbett asked who verified the 200-foot rule. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said staff handled that. Lamb said she prefers using old construction and it comes out better financially, so if there is any hardship it is on her to have to use new construction and the additional expense. Chuck Powell asked Lamb to verify that option 2 was not going to be used. Lamb said no, option 1 was the plan. Charlie Brewer asked about the palm trees. Lamb said two would be moved to the side yard. Tsoulos asked if there was anyone in the audience to speak in favor of or in opposition to the petition. She closed the Public Hearing. Gene Kindrick motioned to approve. Powell seconded. Tsoulos called for discussion. Chandler said he is still concerned about the mechanics of the move. Powell asked Chandler if he wanted to add a condition. Chandler said no. Tsoulos called for a vote to the motion to approve. Brewer, Chandler, Garbett, Susan Hill, Honor Hutton, Kindrick, and Powell voted in favor. Barry Brown voted in opposition. Tsoulos told Lamb she would be before City Council on September 14th. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos opened a Public Hearing for a Special Review and Zoning Variance from the Land Development Code Section 3-080 (B), Off-Street Parking Requirements. The property was at 13 Fourteenth Street, PIN 4-0007-06-001, Zone R-T. The petitioners were Erin and Chris Sheldon, Shiloh and Amber Hutton, and Dennis and Kathleen Hutton. Commissioner Honor Hutton recused herself, stating she lived at the property and is a relative of the petitioners. Erin Sheldon asked if the Commissioners needed further clarification regarding the hardship, which is noise. She said the revisions include four 25-foot driveways. She said they have 205-feet along Fourteenth Street so four driveways is not excessive. She said they allowed for four public parking spaces and an ADA-compliant sidewalk. She said they reduced the units from ten to eight, and changed the setbacks, taking 20-feet off Fourteenth Street and 10-feet off either side. Sheldon said all parking would be within the property. She said if they had single-family homes it most likely would have to be gated. She said the access driveway on Butler Avenue was eliminated. She said they went from 28% building lot coverage to 26%. Sheldon distributed a handout titled Positive Points for Developing Tybee Trees. Scott Barnard, Barnard & Associates Architects, discussed the handout and a visual presentation. Sheldon said the family is going to hold the green space lot and may place the old cottage there. Tsoulos asked if the Commissioners had questions. Bill Garbett asked about the parking variance and hardship. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said they are allowed two driveway openings. Sheldon said pushing the 2 development into the green space takes away from the trees, which is the noise barrier. Chuck Powell spoke regarding the lot the family is to retain. He said they have no guarantee that it will not be developed and a big part of this is to preserve the green space. Sheldon said they want to pursue putting the old house there. Powell said they would have no grounds to deny a proposal to develop if it met all the requirements. Garbett said this is a Special Review and they are being asked if it suits the nature of the area. Sheldon said an 8-unit development would have to come before the Commission. Barnard said they are fairly landlocked; access and parking for 8 more units would be difficult. Powell said if that is the case why are they not willing to put it into preservation. Sheldon said as soon as they answer where the old house is going it could be something they look at. She said they feel it is unnecessary. Sandy Chandler said it is a multi-family development in the R-T district. Anderson said multi-family is an allowed use after Special Review. Gene Kindrick said the variance is for four curb cuts on a street that has no curbs. Barry Brown said the ordinance is 25-feet where a driveway crosses a property line and no property can have over two within 100 feet. Anderson said no property can have more than two and there has to be a minimum of 100 foot frontage to have two. Brown said the reason was density. He asked if any of the properties would be used as commercial. Sheldon asked if that was allowed. Tsoulos said no. Brown asked if it had to have the ground floor as commercial. Anderson said no, that is specific to C-1. Tsoulos asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to the petition. Nick Basta, owner of The Georgianna Inn, said if they are limited to two the City is going to lose out on the revenue from the meters anyway if the owners have trouble pulling in and out. He said they are not taking any green space other than putting buildings in. Basta said he is not opposed. He said it is low density. Brown said the issue is the density. Basta said they could add more units. Brown said it is not a use by right in R-T. Basta said then he misunderstood what his attorney told him; he is considering doing the same thing. He said the driveways are great and they are going to have a sidewalk. Sheldon said they have five neighbors in support. Susan Hill asked if the units were townhouses. Sheldon said it is a condominium development but individual units. Hill asked if the owners would own the ground. Sheldon said no. Barnard said he does not know if they have chosen to create a condominium association or townhouses legally. Hill asked how much of the front yard would the owners own. Sheldon said it would be a condominium development so there would be a condominium association. She said there is 20-feet of front yard. Garbett said the way it is drawn the entire property would be part of a condominium association. He said there is no commitment to maintain the green space and he does not see where the line between the two properties would be. Sheldon said in reducing it from ten to eight units they had to come off the price and pursue possibly subdividing it. Brown asked about condominiums versus townhouses. Sheldon said they are units where everybody has their own vertical space. Brown asked where the property lines would be. Sheldon pointed on the projected drawing. Charlie Brewer asked if there was parking underneath the buildings. Sheldon said yes. Brewer asked if the parking was common area. Barnard said each unit would have a private garage: one car inside and one outside. Tsoulos said they are looking at two issues: a Special Review for a multi-family development in R-T and a Zoning Variance from the parking requirement. Powell said a third issue is the trees and they have no guarantee that the lot will not be developed. Sheldon confirmed with Powell which trees he was referring to. She said those trees would be in the front yards. Garbett said it will not be the owners’ front yards; it will be the Sheldon/Hutton yard. Sheldon said the whole thing would be association. Garbett said they are being asked to approve half a plan. Tsoulos said it is one lot and that is what they are being asked to approve. She said they could come back and subdivide. Sheldon said they are approving the whole plan. Hill said it would be a legal issue and asked if they had thought in those terms. Sheldon said they do not know if the property will be subdivided. Hill asked if they are going to sell it. Sheldon said it is a partnership; they are working with the developer. Tsoulos asked Anderson if the petitioners do not find a lot for the house, could they leave it on the current lot. Anderson said it would have to come back for Special Review. Brown said the house is setting where the units would go. Tsoulos closed the Public Hearing and opened the floor for a motion. Garbett motioned to deny. Brown seconded. Brown said allowing condominiums in R-T is not a good idea and stated other concerns. Garbett agreed with Brown’s comments and said his major concern is they do not know the full plan. Hill commented the petitioners have not come asking for a rectangle pushed to the limits of the lot. She said it is an acceptable use in R-T. Hill said it would be great if they would give a conservation easement. She said she likes the driveways. She said the Commissioners could work with it if they had the rest of the information. Brewer said there are nice qualities and it is the unsure part of the project that makes him uncomfortable. The vote on the motion to deny was five in favor and two against [Susan Hill and Gene Kindrick]. Tsoulos told Sheldon she has the right to proceed to City Council on September 14th. 3 Chair Lawanna Tsoulos said there was no lighting ordinance update. She said the subcommittee would be meeting Thursday, August 17th at 7:30 p.m. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos opened the Public Hearing for a Zoning Variance from the Land Development Code, Section 5-010 (K), Prohibit Placing Materials in Marshlands, at Solomon Avenue and Polk Street, PINs 4-0021- 10-001, 4-0021-12-002 and 4-0021-11-001, Zone R-1. Petitioner Tom Sullivan said the 6-acre tract has 25 lots with an area of jurisdictional wetland. He said the DNR and the Corps have looked at it. Sullivan said the designation changed about three years ago from non-jurisdictional to jurisdictional. He said the area would be developed as single-family. He said they are asking to fill the wetlands pursuant to a nationwide permit granted by the Corps of Engineers. Tsoulos called for questions. Barry Brown asked for the contour lines asked for at the agenda meeting. Sullivan gave a drawing to Brown. Sandy Chandler said it looked like the property had been used as a dump. Sullivan said it was used as a topical landfill but never a certified landfill. He said they have had phase I and II surveys and there are no gases underground. Chandler asked if it was going to be a Weatherwood situation. Sullivan said the studies showed that was not a problem. Brown asked if they were lots of record. Sullivan said there are 25 lots of record. He said what Brown was looking at was a proposal they made to Council with 30 lots. He said there are 4 lots in block #1, 9 lots in block #2, and 12 lots in block #3. Gene Kindrick asked if it was a freshwater wetland. Sullivan said yes. Bill Garbett asked Sullivan to address the mitigation issue. Sullivan said the Corps is requiring the purchase of 2.4 credits. Charlie Brewer asked if Sullivan would bring in soil to fill the area or fill it as part of developing each lot. Sullivan said it would be filled as they do the infrastructure; there is no water or sewer. Brewer asked if there was any movement of water. Sullivan said there is no tie in to any water. Garbett said it is infested with the exotic pest plant Chinese Tallow. He said it is not a natural, functioning wetland ecosystem. Kindrick said DNR has given permission to remove Chinese Tallow. Brown said according to the contours the ditch is about flat; the elevation does not vary a lot. Chuck Powell said it was brought up at the agenda meeting by Sullivan that the City had looked at purchasing the property. He asked if the Council members present could comment on that. Tsoulos said they could not comment. Susan Hill said they also talked about making a track around it as part of a nature trail. She asked if that was still possible. Sullivan said there are a lot of options and he would like to think the options are still available. Tsoulos asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to the petition. She closed the Public Hearing. Kindrick motioned to approve. Brewer seconded. Brown asked about the land swap. Tsoulos said it was not on the table at this time. Tsoulos called for a vote to the motion to approve. The vote was seven in favor, with Powell opposed. Tsoulos told Sullivan it would go before Council on September 14th. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos opened a Public Hearing for a Zoning Variance from the Land Development Code, for 11 Teresa Lane, PIN 4-0022-01-032, Zone R-2, to build a bulkhead in the 25-foot buffer. Representing petitioner Chris Borders, Sr. was Laura Mauer, the contractor. Mauer said Borders wants to meet and extend the existing bulkhead. Mauer told of her discussion with Ann Thran of the Department of Natural Resources. Mauer said they would use 2 by 10 by 10 boards and 6 by 6 posts, following the DNR’s high water mark. She said it is a high marsh. She said Borders has other things he wants to do there. She said the bulkhead would be 61 feet in length, the full length of the DNR marking. Tsoulos called for questions. Sandy Chandler asked why if it is high marsh is salt water coming up under the house. Mauer said she did not know; Thran told her it was high marsh. Mauer said there was no water when she walked it with Thran. Barry Brown questioned Mauer about tying onto the adjoining bulkheads. Mauer said it follows the DNR line and there is a cedar tree that Thran asked them to protect. Brown and Mauer looked at the drawing together. Susan Hill said they are going to tie in to Nancy Smith’s bulkhead. Chuck Powell said the drawing showed riprap in the marsh. Mauer said no riprap; the drawing Powell was looking at was a sample from the Corps of Engineers. Hill asked what type of lumber they would use. Mauer said she spoke with Mark Padgett, Corps of Engineers, and he agreed with pressure treated wood and galvanized steel lag bolts. Hill said she thought the DNR had requested people to stop using pressure treated lumber in the marsh. Brown said it is a different treatment now. Honor Hutton said the drawing showed the bulkhead approximately 20 feet off the concrete porch. Mauer agreed. Hutton asked if it could be closer. Mauer said that Thran showed her where to put the bulkhead. Hutton asked the negative effects Borders is having with the salt-water intrusion. Mauer said Borders wants to keep the grass and the marsh separated. Charlie Brewer said the variance application says a concrete retaining wall, but the sketches call for wood. Mauer said it would be wood. Hill asked if the property was on septic tank or sewer. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said sewer. Tsoulos asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to the petition. Keith Gay said Borders inherited a bulkhead commitment and all he is trying to do is complete the bulkhead. Gay referenced a previous bulkhead request 4 that was granted. He encouraged the Commissioners to vote in favor. Tsoulos closed the Public Hearing. Brown motioned to approve. Kindrick seconded. Hutton asked if Borders could pave the area between the concrete porch and the bulkhead. Anderson said based on the buffer ordinance it would have to remain as it is. Bill Garbett asked if because of the ordinance, Borders should not be allowed to fill either. Anderson said that was correct. Chuck Powell said we should not allow people to build on or near the marsh. He said the subdivision is built on top of a salt marsh. Brown commented that the subdivision had not been completed the way it was supposed to have been. He said the people were not given what they were promised. Garbett commented that a bulkhead intrudes onto the marsh. He said this lot is well stabilized with native and planted vegetation. He said the bulkhead would cause some disturbance and changes in the vegetation. He said the bulkhead is not necessary from a marsh protection point of view. He said he would like to discourage people from building walls unless there is an active erosion problem, and that is not the case here. Brown said the bulkhead should stop runoff going into the marsh if it is done properly. Garbett said it would still seep through. Brown said erosion cloth would keep anything from seeping through. Tsoulos called for a vote. Five voted in favor of approval, with Hutton, Garbett and Powell opposed. Tsoulos said it would go before City Council on September 14, 2006. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos opened a Public Hearing for Site Plan Approval at 1213 Highway 80, PIN 4-0026-02- 007, Zone C-2, for a property damaged by fire in April of 2006. Representing the petition from Coral Investment Group was Keith Gay. Gay withdrew the request due to the lack of a drainage plan. He said they would postpone until the next meeting. Tsoulos said it would be continued. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos opened a Public Hearing for a Zoning Variance from the Land Development Code, Section 5-010 (J) Shore Protection with Variance, for 2 Eighth Street, PIN 4-0005-20-003, Zone R-2, for petitioners Joan and B.H. Levy. Representative Mark Boswell told the Commissioners he would answer any questions. Barry Brown asked if it was two lots of record. Boswell said yes. Brown asked if they were recombining to make one lot. B.H. Levy said that had not been determined. Brown asked if they had to recombine. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said recombinations are handled at staff level. Bill Garbett said the question is the shore protection line. Brown said grass has been on the lots for a long time. He said the Tybee line has been there for four or five years. Brown said dunes are not going to stop the water. Boswell said they are not asking for movement of the line, they are asking for a variance to build within the Tybee line. Garbett verified with Boswell that the Tybee line was the edge of the building on the drawing. Susan Hill asked if the duplex would change the Tybee line. Brown said no. Tsoulos asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak in favor of or in opposition to the petition. She closed the Public Hearing and called for a motion. Brown motioned to approve. Gene Kindrick seconded. Garbett said the shore protection line is a moving line and on the property there is a row of palms just inside the dune and the dune is extremely well stabilized. Garbett said he felt guilty that a variance was required in this situation. Tsoulos called for a vote. Seven Commissioners voted in favor of the motion to approve, with Honor Hutton opposed. Tsoulos said the petition would go before City Council September 14th. The next item was Final Plat Approval for a Major Subdivision at 16 Van Horne Avenue, PIN 4-0003-09-030, Zone R-1. This was not a Public Hearing. Keith Gay represented petitioner SODA Properties. Gay said their request was approval of the Final Plat. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos asked if they had a drainage plan. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said there is a drainage plan from when SODA requested the subdivision. He said the City’s engineer has not signed off on the improvements. Anderson said the petitioner could continue by bonding out what is left to make sure the improvements are put into place. Tsoulos called for questions. Garbett asked if the City’s engineer was still looking at it. Anderson said the City’s engineer, Downer Davis, and Mark Williams, Water/Sewer Director, did a walkthrough and there are details SODA needs to address. Garbett asked if it would be better to continue the Final Plat Approval until that is resolved. Downer Davis cited the reasons he had not signed off. He said many times a Plat is recorded and then later a corrected Plat is recorded. Davis said they fully anticipate getting the inspection completed and the as-built drawings prior to the City Council meeting. The Commissioners took some time to study the Plat as it had just been received that day. Anderson said there are engineering contingencies and they will be worked out. Davis explained the causes of the delays. Tsoulos called for a motion. Susan Hill moved to approve. Sandy Chandler seconded. The vote was unanimous. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos asked Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson to explain a proposed Text Amendment to the Land Development Code, Section 7-070, Tree Protection during Development. Anderson said the way the 5 ordinance reads now there can be no activity in the drip line of a tree. He said he worked with Mallory Pearce, City Council Member, and Pearce has signed off on the language of the proposed change, which states that no work may be performed within the drip line of a tree without documentation from an arborist stating that the work will not damage a tree. Anderson said that without a change there are going to be a lot of variance requests. Following further discussion, Bill Garbett suggested that the proposed Text Amendment be sent back to staff. Tsoulos asked if Anderson would like someone on the Planning Commission to work with him. Honor Hutton and Garbett volunteered. Tsoulos called for a motion. Gene Kindrick motioned to continue. Barry Brown seconded. The vote was to continue was unanimous. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos introduced Text Amendments to the Land Development Code, Sections 6-040, 6-070, and 6-080, all related to signs. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said 6-040 as written now states that real estate, political, and certain civic signs must be at least 5 feet on the property, with nothing allowed in the right-of-way. He said it is an enforcement nightmare because people do not know the location of their property lines, and if it was enforced the signs could not be seen. Anderson explained the proposal is for those particular signs to stay at least 5 feet off the improved portion of the City’s right-of-way. Discussion occurred regarding the language “improved portion.” Tsoulos said they are allowing people to advertise on City property but it is legal according to the City Attorney. City Manager Diane Schleicher said this was for temporary signs. She said there are freedom-of-speech issues. She also talked about the problems of communicating to people the right-of-way issue and enforcement. She said the proposal is a middle ground and does not impede on health and welfare and safety. Schleicher said this is a compromise so the City will be doing what it is suppose to be doing as far as enforcing the laws but also not coming down hard on citizens. Anderson said last month Code Enforcement took 133 signs out of the right-of-way. Susan Hill asked about yard sale and bingo signs. Anderson said the bingo signs have been removed and yard sale signs are not addressed in the ordinance. Hill said she saw yard sale and for sale signs behind City Hall. Anderson said they were in the right-of-way. Moving to Section 6-070, Hill said she had an issue with making non-profits buy a permit. Gene Kindrick said the bingo signs are non-profit. Schleicher said they could be 5 feet off the improved portion with the permission of the property owner. She said they could not be in the medium or along the marsh. She said too many signs takes away from the community and become sign pollution. Schleicher went on to explain the proposed Amendment regarding banners being in designated places with buried sleeves that posts slide into. She said pre-approved civic events could use the posts. She said a permit was required but it was free of charge. Schleicher said two locations had been identified: at the Tybee sign and in Memorial Park. She said there could be up to four banners displayed on a first-come first-served basis. She said it would look nice and everyone would know where to look for banners. Schleicher said a permit could be taken away if it is abused. Brown said sometimes signs add to the charm of the island. Anderson said if the City is going to enforce ordinances across the board, they have to write ordinances that can be enforced fairly. Following further discussion Tsoulos asked about Section C. Anderson said “in front of private property” needed to be added at the end. Tsoulos asked if a property owner could give permission to put something on the City’s right-of-way. Anderson said this ordinance gives permission. Tsoulos called for a motion on Sections 6-040 and 6-070. Chuck Powell motioned to approve. Kindrick seconded. Anderson confirmed the motion included the language change. The vote was unanimous. Tsoulos called for a motion on Section 6-080. Powell motioned to approve. Kindrick seconded. The vote was unanimous. Anderson said there would be a Text Amendment next month regarding temporary sandwich boards. A proposed new Land Development Code ordinance, Section 5-111, Conditional Zoning, was considered next. Barry Brown asked if the condition would be attached to the deed. Zoning Administrator Dee Anderson said it would have to be recorded with the property. He said the proposal came from City Attorney Bubba Hughes who has been working with Attorney Frank Jenkins, who has been encouraging municipalities to get it on their books. Brown clarified with Anderson that it is not considered spot zoning. Bill Garbett said it clarifies what the Planning Commission has been done in the past as far as specifying conditions. Chuck Powell motioned to approve. Gene Kindrick seconded. Hill said Brown made a good comment about it being attached to the deed but that was not in the verbiage. Anderson said he would speak with Bubba Hughes. The vote to approve was unanimous. The final item was a Text Amendment to the Land Development Code, Section 5-020 (B), Site Plan Approval - Bicycle Racks Required in Zone C-1. Referring to a discussion at the agenda meeting, City Manager Diane Schleicher said the number of racks was not specified because the use and amount of land would not be known until the Site Plan is submitted. She said it affords an opportunity to require a developer to address an 6 alternative way of transportation. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos asked if it figured into the green space requirement. Schleicher said no, they would want to look at is where the rack is located so it does not impede ingress/egress. Sandy Chandler said it was intrusive to demand this to people who may or may not want it; a problem does not exists to the degree that they need this. Barry Brown said there are enough rules and regulations in the building industry. He said the racks would have to be anchored so they do not become projectiles. Honor Hutton said it was a fantastic proposal. She said she appreciates that Tybee is biker friendly. Brown said he did not disagree with the idea, just the theory behind it. He asked if it was referring to a Site Plan for a condominium. Anderson said the intent was for commercial establishments. Brown said it did not say that. Anderson said they might need to add some language. Anderson suggested they change it to “all land development activities other than residential structures.” Brown asked about front setbacks for commercial. Anderson said for true commercial the setback is zero. Charlie Brewer clarified with Anderson that condominiums would not be required to have bike racks. Chuck Powell said the proposal fit better under 3-080, Off-Street Parking Requirements. Anderson said that was fine. He said the racks would have to be reflected on the Site Plan like the parking requirements. Brown asked if there would be a certain square footage set aside. Schleicher and Tsoulos said no, it would be on a case-by-case basis. Brown said it should be more established. Chandler asked if they were going to require existing businesses to have racks. Tsoulos said existing businesses would be grandfathered; this would apply to new construction. Bill Garbett said there is nothing that prevents anyone from putting a bike rack on their property. Garbett said he can always find a place to park his bike, and he is dubious that they need to require this. Tsoulos called for a motion. Powell asked if they could make a motion to restudy the issue and bring it back in a different form, or did they want to deny. Brown motioned to deny. Hill seconded. Five voted in favor of denial. Voting in opposition to the motion to deny were Hutton, Gene Kindrick, and Powell. Chair Lawanna Tsoulos asked the Commissioners to look at the brochure for the September 13th Georgia Green Infrastructure Workshop in Savannah. She told them to contact Dee Anderson before September 1st if they wanted to attend. The Commissioners also talked about a Georgia Planning Association Conference at St. Simon’s Island, October 12th. Tsoulos said it would be a day trip. Gene Kindrick motioned to adjourn. Sandy Chandler seconded. The vote was unanimous.