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The Common Council of the City of Richmond, Indiana met in regular session at 7:30 p.m. Monday,
111 November 17, 1997, in the Council Chambers in said City. President Bob Dickman presided with the
following Councilmembers present: Howard "Jack" Elstro, Etta Lundy, Bruce Wissel, Sarah "Sally" Hutton,
Geneva"Gene"Allen, Alan Stamper, Bing Welch and Larry Parker. The following business was had to-wit:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
PRAYER BY COUNCILMEMBER WISSEL
1 n ROLL CALL
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1 Nine present.
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1,1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1;• The minutes of the meeting of November 3, 1997 were approved on a motion by Councilmember Hutton,
1 ' second by Councilmember Parker and was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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1° PRESENTATIONS OF REMONSTRANCES. PETITIONS. MEMORIALS OR PUBLIC COMMENTS
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2 A.The Clerk read Resolution No. 12- 1997-A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF A PETITION FOR
2 FUNDING TO ASSIST IN A BUILDING REDEVELOPMENT FOR SENIOR HOUSING
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2, City Attorney Bob Bever explained that Councilmember Hutton is the sponsor of this resolution, noting there
2 were others in the audience wishing to speak. Councilmember Hutton said this is in the Enterprise Zone,
2. stating that she, along with others, is excited that there is someone willing to step forward who will renovate
27 this building into affordable housing.
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2 City Attorney Bob Bever pointed out one change in the resolution, stating that the word "anticipated"should
3' be inserted before the word "owner" in the second "Whereas." Councilmember Hutton moved to amend the
3 resolution adding the word "anticipated,"second by Councilmember Wissel and the motion was carried on a
3 unanimous voice vote. Councilmember Hutton said this resolution goes into the application the people will be
3 putting in in Indianapolis for some funding. She added that the City is not being asked to put any money into
3 the building, but it may need some for the infrastructure around the building which is needed in the entire
3 area. She pointed out that Lewis Dow, the new owner of the Bartel building is putting in a business and an
3 apartment upstairs and the depot is right on line and will be developed next year, so the whole area is going
3 to open up.
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3 4
Matt Stegall, one of the chairmen of one of the committees of the Community Partnership Foundation, called
the Preservation Alliance, came forward to say he could not answer any specific questions on the project.
4 However, he said, the Foundation has taken the lead on working with the developer of the project which is
4 Area 6 Agency on Aging out of Yorktown which has done two other such projects, one in Anderson and the
other in Muncie. He said his committee's role was to coordinate the local part of the application and he
4, added that he has several letters of support from senior agencies in the community as well as the
4- Richmond/Wayne County Chamber of Commerce, State Representative Dick Bodiker, State Senator Allen
4: Paul and the Economic Development Corporation. He said this fits in well with the revitalization project which
4 was developed by Main Street Inc. He expressed his appreciation to Robin Henry, director of Community
4: Partnerships,for her work with this project.
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5, Councilmember Parker commented that one of the previous times this building has come before Council
51 there was a concern there was not enough need for the vacant property. He asked if that had possibly
b. changed. Stegall said the letters of support he has state there is a need, adding that that could be based on
5 personal opinion since there had not yet been a survey.
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5- In answer to a question posed by Councilmember Parker, Stegall said he didn't have the exact figures but
5. he knew it would be moderate to middle income rentals. Councilmember Hutton said she would like to clarify
5 that it would not be subsidized or lower income housing, but moderate housing. She added that there is a
5 need in this community for this type of housing for those who need one level and who need an elevator. She
5 said the majority of housing available has steps. Councilmember Allen said she recalled there was a need
111 6 for moderate housing when this came up before. Councilmember Parker said he had no problem with that
61 but he questioned the use of the word "affordable."
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6 Councilmember Lundy voiced her concern about the mention of the word "infrastructure," and asked how
6, much money would be needed from the City. Mayor Dennis Andrews answered that in his conversation with
6^ Stegall and the developer they focused on the City match and he explained that his position for privately held
structures it not to put tax dollars into it.
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November 17, 1997
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1 However, he continued, in that area the parking lot north of the building is currently held by the bank who
2 holds title to the property. He stated that the infrastructure improvement needs include a street that is
3 supposed to be between that area and the building and between that parking lot. He added that should t at
4 become a public parking lot which would service the needs of that building, that is how the City dan
5 participate in the project. He said they needed a total of$80,000 match and whether or not the City can iet
6 up to that point or not, he didn't know. He said there are several possible sources such as the Econo is
7 Development income and the T.I.F. for the construction he talked about. He said there are four people e
8 wanted to talk to in the administration prior to making any commitments, noting they are the City Controll r,
9 Director of Planning, Director of Public Works and the City Attorney and he has not had all of th se
10 conversations yet.
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12 Councilmember Hutton moved to adopt Resolution No. 12- 1997, second by Councilmember Welch and e
13 motion was carried on an 8-1 vote,with Councilmember Stamper voting no.
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15 Renee Oldham, director of Main Street Inc., stepped forward to state that she had gone to Madison wh re
16 she had accepted the top honor for the category of Public/Private Partnership where government and ity
17 entities and private development work together for the betterment of the community. She excite ly
18 commented that the local group beat out all the others in the state and she named several of them. S e
19 gave credit not only to the administration but to the citizens of Richmond and encouraged them all to keep
20 on going forward. Councilmember Hutton commented that she had accompanied Oldham to the conferen e
21 and many people throughout the state thought this City is right on target in that everyone is working toget er
22 to get things done. Oldham presented the plaque to Mayor Andrews.
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24 COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE MAYOR
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26 Mayor Andrews said he had given Councilmember an informational handout in which he told them he h d
27 accepted an appointment by Indiana Association of Cities and Towns to a deregulation task fo ,e
28 committee. He also commented on the meeting he and others attended with Morton Marcus recently, stating
29 that listening to the three economists at Indiana University East had three different views even amoig
30 themselves.
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32 The Mayor talked about the question that relates to Ordinance No. 130 - 1997 which is a reapplication ford a
33 tax abatement. He said an application fee was established last year for$100 and this ordinance did not have
34 any provision for someone not successful in getting an abatement then reapplying with different informati n.
35 He said this is the second time around and the application fee had not been paid, adding that this may of
36 be something that needs to be addressed but he raised the question in the event the language needs to e
37 added or changed for the application. He said this is one that is on the agenda where it is a reapplicati n
38 and they did pay the fee previous to the first process but this is the second process and the fee has not be n
39 paid.
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41 On another subject,the Mayor said he merely wanted to clarify that the City is looking at possibly refinanci g
42 two T.I.F. bonds that total about $4 million. He said last year the Redevelopment Authority Commissi n
43 looked at the interest rate and essentially the City could save$50,000 over the life of the bonds and that w s
44 raised to $100,000 as a benchmark before they were refinanced. He added that the expectation is that t e
45 rates are as such that the City is near that point and the main reason he is explaining this is to point out t at
46 these are not new bonds but merely the refinancing of existing bonds that will take place if the savings re
47 such the City will save over$100,000 over the term of those two bonds by refinancing. He said since he h d
48 some calls which came into his office about this, he wanted to explain what it is not.
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50 Commenting on the uptown parking, Mayor Andrews said the Board of Works did not put this on its agen a
51 last week and it will go to public hearing at the Board's next meeting at 5 p.m.Thursday, November 20 whi h
52 is when it will first be presented to the Board. He added, however, that Council will have the final say on t e
53 ordinance.
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55 Councilmember Wissel said he had had several requests from Councilmembers to put the ordinanc s
56 pertaining to the parking issue in a Committee of a Whole meeting and he is looking at December 3 becau e
57 of the break being taken for the Thanksgiving holiday. President Dickman said they would see how t e
58 ordinances moved in tonight's meeting before making that decision.
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60 Councilmember Stamper addressed the application fee for Ordinance No. 130 - 1997 which the Mayor h d
61 alluded to earlier, stating that the business had been turned down for an application for a 10-year abateme t
62 and at that time the Tax Abatement Committee was in the process of setting some guidelines. He said it is
63 the feeling of Council that those individuals should be allowed to reapply without paying an additional $1 0
64 fee. He said the idea of the committee is to encourage businesses to group their abatements together. Aft r
65 a few other comments about the issue, President Dickman said it would give Council something to think
about. Councilmember Stamper then stated he has told them if they reapplied they would not have to p-y
the fee.
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1 REPORT FROM BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY
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3 The minutes of the meetings of October 23 and October 30, 1997 were in the Council packets.
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5 REPORTS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS
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7 REPORTS FROM SPECIAL COMMITTEES
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9 REPORTS FROM STANDING COMMITTEES
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'1 REPORTS FROM ORGANIZATIONS
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3 MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
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'5 ORDINANCES
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'7 ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING
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'9 Councilmember Elstro moved to suspend the rules and read Ordinance No. 112, 114, 115, 117, 121, 122,
40 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, and 134- 1997 on first reading by title only, second
1 by Councilmember Wissel and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
.3 ORDINANCE NO.112-1997
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.5 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 112 - 1997 - AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE TO BE KNOWN AS THE
.6 1998 FIREFIGHTER AND POLICE OFFICER SALARY ORDINANCE
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.8 Assistant City Attorney Steve Rabe explained this ordinance is one of the three salary ordinances that is
.g required by the State Board of Accounts. He said it formally sets the salaries of the Police Officers and the
0 Firefighters for the calendar year of 1998 and incorporates the latest raises in the most recent contracts with
1 the F.O.P. and the Firefighters Local 1408.
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3 Rabe stated that the raises for the 1998 calendar year is 51/2 percent for Police and 41/2 percent for
4 Firefighters, and in 1999 is 31/2 percent for each of the Police and Fire. Rabe said those raises do bring
5 them up to the mid range of second class cities in the state, adding that the negotiations had gone well and
6 they had had open and frank discussions.
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8 In answer to a question by Councilmember Stamper ask to who negotiates those contracts on behalf of the
1 9 City, Rabe answered that it is him and City Controller Shelley Miller.
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411 Councilmember Elstro moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 112 - 1997 to second
42 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous
43 voice vote.
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451. The Clerk read Ordinance No. 112- 1997 on second reading.
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47 President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 112 - 1997 on public hearing. There being no comments either
48 for or against the ordinance, Councilmember Elstro moved for engrossment, second by Councilmember
4g Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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5 Councilmember Lundy moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 112 - 1997 to third and final
5 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Elstro and the motion was carried on a unanimous
5 voice vote.
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56 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 112- 1997 on third reading.
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5r Ordinance No. 112-1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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5! Ayes: Elstro, Lundy,Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
6 i Nays:None
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60 ORDINANCE NO.114-1997
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6• The Clerk read Ordinance No. 114- 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR
6. THE REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 5242 NEW PARIS PIKE
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1 Jo Makela, assistant director of the Sanitary District, stepped forward and explained this ordinance as well
2 as Ordinance No. 115 - 1997 is for land application of bio solids on these two locations. She said the
3 Sanitary District has received a state permit from the Indiana Department of Environmental Manageme t
4 and has gone through some other zoning for land laying outside the jurisdiction of the City, adding that this is
5 the final step in gathering all the zoning ordinances together for the complete program. In answer to a
6 question by Councilmember Hutton about the property on Abington Pike, Makela said it is right at t e
7 junction of Test Road and Abington Pike and is located on the south and north side of Test Road.
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9 President Dickman announced the ordinance would go to the Planning Commission.
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11 ORDINANCE NO. 115-1997
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13 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 115- 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FO"
14 THE REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 1023 ABINGTON PIKE
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16 President Dickman announced the ordinance would go to the Planning Commission.
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18 ORDINANCE NO.117-1997
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20 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 117- 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP F R
21 THE REAL ESTATE LOCATED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF ROUND BARN ROAD, SOUTH F
22 VIRGINIA AVENUE
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24 President Dickman announced the ordinance would go to the Planning Commission.
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26 Councilmember Parker questioned the location and Bob Goodwin, director of Planning, explained that t e
27 property is immediately south of Virginia Avenue on the west side of Round Barn Road. He added that it is
28 presently zoned R-1 and they are requesting it be rezoned to R-2. He further stated it is a vacant lot direc ly
29 across the road from Rose Hamilton School. He added that the petitioner is Tom Raper.
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31 Councilmember Lundy asked Goodwin to explain the differences between to two zonings and Goodwin s id
32 the primary difference is in lot size. He said R-1 is 12,000 square feet and R-2 is 8,000 square feet, addi g
33 there is also a difference in the side yard, noting that R-1 requires 10-foot side yards and R-2 requires 8-fo t
34 side yards. Councilmember Welch asked if land is on the south of the land Nicholson is planning to devel p
35 on that side of Round Barn Road. Goodwin answered that what Welch is referring to is the northern end f
36 this particular parcel because the zoning classification there splits the parcel. He said he believes two-thirds
37 is R-1 and the other third which has been developed, has been developed as R-2. He said even though it is
38 one and the same it is a separate development.
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40 ORDINANCE NO. 121 -1997
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42 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 121 - 1997-A GENERAL ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 150 OFT E
43 CITY OF RICHMOND CODE
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45 Rabe explained this ordinance does not change anything and is strictly to correct typographical errors th;t
46 exist currently in the City code. He said the word processor had run a few sentences together which ma e
47 no sense. He explained that this section of the code provides that if someone gets a building permit th-y
48 have 60 days in which to begin work, otherwise the permit expires. Also, once they commence work, it th-y
49 cease that work they have 180 days to start up again before the permit expires. Rabe said as long as t e
50 work is continued the permit remains valid.
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52 Councilmember Lundy moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 121 - 1997 to seco d
53 reading and read by title only,second by Councilmember Elstro and the motion was carried on a unanimo s
54 voice vote.
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56 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 121 - 1997 on second reading.
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58 President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 121 - 1997 on public hearing. There being no comments eith-r
59 for or against the ordinance, Councilmember Wissel moved for engrossment, second by Councilmemb-r
60 Hutton and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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63 Councilmember Allen moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 121 - 1997 on third and fin:I
64 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimo s
65 voice vote.
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November 17, 1997
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1 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 121 -1997 on third reading.
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3 Ordinance No. 121 - 1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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Ayes: Elstro, Lundy,Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
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Nays:None.
ORDINANCE NO.122-1997
1 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 122 - 1997-AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY
1 OF RICHMOND TO RECEIVE A DONATION
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1 Jill Kasprzak, Outdoor Recreation Coordinator, explained that the Parks & Recreation Department had
1 received a donation from Richmond Community Schools of $1,920.56 to be spent on landscaping materials
1 for the Cardinal Greenway project. She said this is grant money received from the Indiana Department of
1.. Education and the teacher who was using the money last year no longer has the same class which was
1 using the money to hone up on their English skills and did not spend very much of it.
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11 Councilmember Elstro moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 122 - 1997 to second
2. reading and read by title only,second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous
2 voice vote.
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2: The Clerk read Ordinance No. 122-1997 on second reading.
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2. President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 122- 1997 on public hearing.There being no comment either for
2. or against the ordinance, Councilmember Wissel moved for engrossment, second by Councilmember Hutton
2r and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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2: Councilmember Lundy moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 122- 1997 to third and final
31 reading,second by Councilmember Parker and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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3, The Clerk read Ordinance No. 122-1997 on third reading.
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3, Ordinance No. 122- 1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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3. Ayes: Elstro, Lundy,Wissel,Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
3 Nays: None.
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3 ORDINANCE NO. 123-1997
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4 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 123 - 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF
4 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER I.C.
4 6-1.1-12.1
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4 Councilmember Stamper explained this request is from H & P Tool Co. and has been revised because they
4 called him and explained they had already applied for a tax abatement for one figure and decided to expend
4 an additional $50,000. He said his thought was that it would be allowed, noting the application needs to be
4 amended. Councilmember Lundy moved to amend the ordinance, second by Councilmember Allen and the
4 motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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5 President Dickman announced revised Ordinance No. 123- 1997 would come back on second reading.
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5 ORDINANCE NO.124-1997
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5 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 124 - 1997- A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF
5 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER I.C.
5 6-1.1-12.1
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5 Councilmember Stamper explained this request is from Spartech Plastic, stating the forms which have the
60 wage and benefit data are not included here. City Attorney Bob Bever said the forms have not been formally
6 approved but most everyone has been voluntarily using them. He said until the Tax Abatement Guideline
6 Committee meets tomorrow night in the Committee of the Whole, those forms cannot be required to
6 accompany the tax abatement requests. Councilmember Wissel asked for a clarification and President
6, Dickman said this ordinance will stay on first reading and when it comes back on second if they want to add
6 that sheet, Council can accept that.
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November 17. 1997
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1 President Dickman announced Ordinance No. 124-1997 would come back on second reading.
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3 ORDINANCE NO.125-1997
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5 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 125 - 1997- A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF
6 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY ORNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER .C.
7 6-1.1-12.1
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9 Councilmember Stamper explained that this request for a tax abatement was made by Gold Star Coating of
10 Richmond Inc.
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12 President Dickman announced Ordinance No. 125- 1997 would come back on second reading.
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14 ORDINANCE NO. 126-1997
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16 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 126 - 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL F
17 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER .C.
18 6-1.1-12.1
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20 Councilmember Stamper explained this request was made by MacDel Inc.
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22 President Dickman announced Ordinance No. 126- 1997 would come back on second reading.
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24 ORDINANCE NO.127-1997
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26 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 127- 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL 'F
27 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER I C.
28 6-1.1-12.1
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30 Councilmember Stamper explained this request was made by Purina Mills for its test diet plant.
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32 President Dickman announced Ordinance No. 127 - 1997 would come back on second reading. Bever s:id
33 what appears to be the case here with these ordinances is that if they were filed after November 1 they -re
34 being given the new form. Councilmember Stamper said he decided to do it that way and he hoped it as
35 alright. He said it was his thought that if it is decided to do it that way, approval of a tax abatement requ:st
36 would not be delayed.
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38 ORDINANCE NO. 128-1997
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40 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 128 - 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL aF
41 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER I'C.
42 6-1.1-12.1
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44 Councilmember Stamper explained this is for Purina Mills for its manufacturing plant.
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46 President Dickman announced Ordinance No. 128- 1997 would come back on second reading.
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49 ORDINANCE NO. 129-1997
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51 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 129 - 1997 - AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 1997
52 BUDGET
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54 President Dickman said this ordinance speaks for itself in that it is a transfer within the Mayor's office,
55 transferring$300 out of the training category into the office supplies account.
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57 Councilmember Hutton moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 129 - 1997 to seco d
58 reading and read by title only,second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimo s
59 voice vote.
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61 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 129- 1997 on second reading.
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63 President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 129 - 1997 on public hearing. There being no comments either
64 for or against the ordinance, Councilmember Welch moved for engrossment, second by Councilmember
65 Allen and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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1 Councilmember Allen moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 129 - 1997 to third and final
2 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous
3 voice vote.
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5 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 129-1997 on third reading.
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7 Ordinance No. 129-1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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9 Ayes: Elstro, Lundy, Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
0 Nays: None.
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2 ORDINANCE NO. 130-1997
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4 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 130 - 1997-A SPECIAL ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF
5 A STATEMENT OF BENEFITS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR DEDUCTIONS UNDER I.C.
6 6-1.1-12.1
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8 Councilmember Stamper explained this request is for the proposed hotel addition and has come before
9 Council before. He said he would want to keep this on first reading until some guidelines were in place for tax
.0 abatement and that should come out of the Committee of the Whole meeting.
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2 President Dickman announced Ordinance No. 130- 1997 would come back on second reading.
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.4 ORDINANCE NO. 131 -1997
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-6 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 131 - 1997 - AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE
-7 SUBMITTAL, ACCEPTANCE, AND APPROPRIATION OF A GRANT FROM THE OFFICE OF THE STATE
=8 FIRE MARSHALL
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0 Fire Chief Mike Allen explained this is a grant made available through a major utility company in the state to
1 the state fire marshall's office for$500 to purchase a carbon monoxide detector which his department would
12 certainly want to take advantage of.
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314 Councilmember Elstro moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 131 - 1997 to second
35 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous
316 voice vote.
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38 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 131 - 1997 on second reading.
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4' President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 131 - 1997 on public hearing. There being no comments either
for or against the ordinance, Councilmember Elstro moved for engrossment, second by Councilmember
40 Allen and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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41, Councilmember Wissel moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 131 -1997 to third and final
4. reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous
4,. voice vote.
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4: The Clerk read Ordinance No. 131 - 1997 on third reading.
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5+ Ordinance No. 131 - 1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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5' Ayes: Elstro, Lundy,Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
5' Nays: None.
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5. ORDINANCE NO.132-1997
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5' The Clerk read Ordinance No. 132 - 1997 -AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY
5: OF RICHMOND TO RECEIVE A DONATION
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60 Jeff Sears, sports coordinator for the Parks and Recreation Department, explained this is an addition to a
6 previous ordinance back in January or February of this year, adding that it is for a December program which
6 was omitted.
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6, Councilmember Hutton moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 132 - 1997 to second
6', reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous
voice vote.
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November 1 . 1997
1 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 132- 1997 on second reading.
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3 President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 132 - 1997 on public hearing. There being no comments eit er
4 for or against the ordinance, Councilmember Lundy moved for engrossment, second by Councilmember
5 Wissel and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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7 Councilmember Welch moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 132- 1997 to third and fi al
8 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Allen and the motion was carried on a unanimo s
9 voice vote.
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11 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 132- 1997 on third reading.
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13 Ordinance No. 132- 1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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15 Ayes: Elstro, Lundy,Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
16 Nays: None.
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18 ORDINANCE NO.133-1997
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20 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 133 - 1997 - AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 1977
21 BUDGET
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23 Fire Chief Mike Allen explained this ordinance deals with a transfer of funds to enable the Fire Department to
24 partially support the funding of a new heating and air conditioning system proposed for Fire Station No. 1. e
25 said a large amount of money has been spent in the past 10 years on maintenance of the equipment whi h
26 is 27 years old. He said the station was without air conditioning the entire season of 1997 and he hopes to
27 be able to install a new system.
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29 Councilmember Welch moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 133 - 1997 to second
30 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Parker and the motion was carried on a
31 unanimous voice vote.
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33 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 133- 1997 on second reading.
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35 President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 133 - 1997 on public hearing. There being no comments either
36 for or against the ordinance, Councilmember Welch moved for engrossment, second by Councilmem er
37 Parker and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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39 Councilmember Stamper asked as to whether or not the City has bought a new fire truck this year and Ch of
40 Allen said not this year but there are funds available for a new truck in 1998. Councilmember Stamper ask d
41 about the priority for an air conditioning as opposed to a new fire truck. Chief Allen said the chiller went ut
42 of the system this year and it would cost $50,000 to replace it and he felt it was senseless to put mo e
43 money into the old system.
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45 Councilmember Welch moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 133- 1997 to third and fi al
46 reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Parker and the motion was carried on a
47 unanimous voice vote.
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49 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 133- 1997 on third reading.
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51 Ordinance No. 133- 1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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53 Ayes: Elstro, Lundy,Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
54 Nays: None.
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56 ORDINANCE NO.134-1997
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58 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 134- 1997-AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CI
59 OF RICHMOND TO RECEIVE A DONATION
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61 Stan Lambert, superintendent of Parks and Recreation,stated that Council had been given a revised copy of
62 the ordinance this evening which included one final event for 1998. He said this ordinance consists oft
63 listing to date of the events for 1998 which his department will be seeking donations for. Councilmember
64 Welch said the first ordinance Council received had 7 events on it,then the second had 17 and now it is !p
65 to 18. Lambert said that is true and it is possible that he may be back in the future with another ordinance.
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1 Councilmember Welch moved to accept the last submitted revised copy, second by Councilmember Parker
2 and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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4 Councilmember Welch moved to suspend the rules and advance the revised Ordinance No. 134- 1997 to
5 second reading and read by title only, second by Councilmember Parker and the motion was carried on a
6 unanimous voice vote.
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8 The Clerk read revised Ordinance No. 134-1997 on second reading.
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10 President Dickman declared revised Ordinance No. 134- 1997 on public hearing.There being no comments
11 either for or against the revised ordinance, Councilmember Elstro moved for engrossment, second by
12 Councilmember Allen and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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14 Councilmember Allen moved to suspend the rules and advance Ordinance No. 134- 1997 to third and final
15 reading,second by Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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17 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 134- 1997 on third reading.
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19 Ordinance No. 134- 1997 was adopted on the following call of the roll:
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211 Ayes:Elstro, Lundy, Wissel, Hutton,Allen, Stamper,Welch, Parker and Dickman (9)
Nays: None.
2143 ORDINANCE NO.96-1997
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26 President Dickman asked for a motion to add Ordinance No. 96 - 1997 to the agenda. Councilmember
217 Hutton so moved,second by Councilmember Parker and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote.
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219 Bever explained this ordinance is the one which went to Planning Commission before it had actually been
3b assigned to them so Council needs to assign it so the Commission can have a formal hearing.
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3 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 96 - 1997 - A SPECIAL ORDINANCE VACATING THE PUBLIC PLACE
3 DESCRIBED AS 17 FEET IN EQUAL WIDTH EAST OF THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE OF LOT NUMBER 48 IN
3 M. PARRY'S ADDITION TO GREENWOOD, NOW A PART OF THE CITY OF RICHMOND, WAYNE
3 COUNTY, INDIANA
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37 President Dickman announced Ordinance No.96-1997 would go to the Planning Commission.
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39 Commenting on the two ordinances on second reading, which are Ordinance No. 116- 1997 and Ordinance
43 No. 118 - 1997, Councilmember Wissel said he had talked with several Councilmembers and it seems to be
4 a consensus of opinion that both should end up in a Committee of the Whole meeting. He asked Bever if the
4' ordinances are put on public discussion can they be kept on second reading and Bever said they will, since
4: they will not be engrossed. Councilmember Wissel, who, as Vice President is in charge of arranging the
4, meetings of the Committee of the Whole, announced that sinceThanksgiving week is coming up,the date for
4. that meeting will be Wednesday, December 3. He said the meeting will begin at 7 p.m. and will be held in
4. Council Chambers.
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4: ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING AND ENGROSSMENT
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5' The Clerk read Ordinance No. 116- 1997-A GENERAL ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 74 AND 76
5 OF THE CITY OF RICHMOND CODE
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5 President Dickman declared Ordinance No. 116 - 1997 on public hearing and although he encouraged
5 people to speak out at the Committee of the Whole meeting, said they were welcome to step forward at this
5 meeting.
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5 Ray Onco, a downtown property owner and business owner, said he was in favor of the ordinances as a
6 whole, but had some serious qualms about the contributions the businesses are being asked to make to
6; enable the customers to park free for three hours.
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6 He said he wanted to make five points: (1) Unfair. He said he thinks the proposal is unfair because the fees
6, are assessed regardless of the rate of use, the size or the ability to pay; (2) Unenforceable. He said many
6 business owners, including himself, do not perceive the off street parking as particularly valuable, and he
thinks there would be some enforceability issues.
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1 (3) Unnecessary. He said having off street parking for downtown businesses for three hours or more is
2 probably unnecessary for most downtown business; (4) Unlikely. He said he feels this is unlikely to succe d
3 if there are two classes of parking which is paid parking and free parking up to three hours. He said he thi s
4 there are going to be people who are there for under four hours using the employee parking as opposed to
5 the free parking; (5) Underdevelop. He said it has a tendency to underdevelop the downtown creatin a
6 significant dis-incentive for the smallest businesses downtown as it is written.
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8 Councilmember Wissel asked about Onco's business and he answered that he has a computer consult nt
9 business and also owns the Sailor Street Mall which has four retail or service businesses located in'it.
10 Councilmember Wissel said historically, parking has been contributed to by some form and asked Onco if e
11 would prefer parking meters if he is opposed to merchants contributing. Onco answered that either a parki g
12 meter approach or reserved spaces by business approach would get a little bit better participation from t e
13 downtown merchants, lawyers, bankers and others.
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15 In answer to a question by Councilmember Welch about how many employees he has, Onco said e
16 employs five in his own business and some of those travel.There are also an additional 6 or 8 employees in
17 the building. Councilmember Welch asked if he currently is purchasing parking permits on one of the lots or
18 the employees. Onco said he reimburses all of his employees for their parking fees. Councilmember Wel h
19 then asked him if his employees are currently parking on the lot rather than on the street and Onco said thl-y
20 were using the lots. Councilmember Welch said that is what the City is hoping they will do so the parking an
21 the street will be for those people who want to come downtown and go shopping or just to make a quirk
22 stop. He asked Onco what he thought would be a fair dollar value for those reserved parking lots and On
23 said he agrees with the figures stated in the ordinances.
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25 Ken Paust, owner of Paust Printers, expressed particular concern about the lot across from his business 4n
26 North 10th Street which is referred to as the GTE lot. He asked Council to look at the lots such as this ope
27 and visit those sites. He said he currently rents 18 spots on that lot and pays for his employees to park theee.
28 He said he thinks Council should want to make it as convenient as possible for those people to core
29 downtown and shop and one of the ways to keep the employees downtown off the streets is to make parki g
30 available in the parking lots.
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32 Paust questioned the proposed change in parking fees from $12 to $25 per month. He said he feels if that is
33 changed it will force the employees out of the lots and to park on the streets. As a business owner, he sad,
34 he currently pays $2,500 a year on the spots he rents, and with the increase it will be$5,400, and he said e
35 wonders if he can justify that kind of expense. And, he said, added onto that, Renee Oldham will ask him o
36 contribute $240 a year more to help provide free parking for customers downtown. And, he concluded,wh n
37 the business district taxing comes along there will be an additional cost.
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39 He said he began to wonder about other people in his area and very quickly, he said, he did n
40 unsophisticated survey going to 9 stores and asking if they provided off street parking for employees. e
41 said none of them did, adding that one man said his employees park on the street and stay there all day.
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43 Paust said he feels the rates should be reasonable enough so that either the owner of the business will p y
44 for the parking or the employee will feel they are justified in paying those dollars for off street parking. He
45 said there are 101 available spots in the GTE lots and most of the time two-thirds of that lot has been emp y.
46 He added that the parking lots have been recently paved and the City has done a good job in making it to c k
47 very nice and he thinks the lots should have 101 cars parked there and it should be employees that a�e
48 parking downtown who can afford to pay or the businesses can afford to pay to put their employees in the e.
49 If that is done, he said,the employees will stay off the streets and keep those places open for customers.
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51 He agreed that the $5 for the parking garage is the way to go. He questioned the parking lot at Color B,x
52 which the City owns, adding that he wondered how much Color Box pays the City for the 85 parking spac s
53 they have in that lot. He asked Council to check on that, because he wonders if that is equal to wh t
54 downtown businesses are going to have to pay.
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56 Paust said he feels that having parking passes that are visible is important but equally as important is t e
57 efficiency in getting those passes out. He said he has a problem with issuing tickets those people parking on
58 those lots. He said he would like to see parking spots in the lots marked with the word "reserved" a d
59 everyone given a number and a specific spot to park. He said he feels that would be easier to control.
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61 Jim Prawat, who has a dental practice downtown, said his employees have off street parking but he is
62 concerned about his patients receiving tickets for overtime parking. He said he feels a warning ticket wou d
63 be a softer approach. He cited competition with the newly remodeled Richmond Square Mall whe e
64 customers can park free all day long and asked Council to use some good judgment when considering the e
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1 Renee Oldham, director of Main Street Inc., said this City's parking situation is no different than in any other
2 community, noting that on a recent visit to Madison she learned that City has a real parking challenge. She
3 addressed the issue of stacking fees which Paust mentioned, stating that this is a short term plan to tweak
4 and perfect. She said they would not be double dipping the businesses, adding that it is a comprehensive
5 plan. She said she will be at the Committee of the Whole meeting to answer any questions.
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7 Phil Dickman, speaking on behalf of Kessler's, said he is also in favor of the parking ordinance plan but
8 would like to see Council consider the end of the new corridor where his business is at 10th and Main Street.
9 He said there are about 20 spaces in the new public lot across the street from his business and judging from
10 what he has seen in the past, he feels that lot will fill up with restaurant patrons, second floor apartment
11 dwellers and various employees. He said he feels by raising the rates in the lot referred to as the GTE lot it
12 will drive the employees to find other sources of parking and he feels that is going to be the three hour
13 parking in that lot or on the street.
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15 Dickman said he felt enforcement will be very difficult, adding that currently the City employs one full time
16 parking enforcement officer and the two part time people will only work on weekends. He said the parking
17 problems in uptown Richmond are not on the weekends but during the week which leads him to feel they will
18 be totally ineffective. He said he feels it will take two-plus parking enforcement officers to keep that whole
19 corridor under patrol or it will turn into a free-for-all with the customers, the clients and the patients all
10 struggling once again to find parking spaces.
President Dickman said the ordinances will stay on first reading and be discussed in the Committee of the
2'j3 Whole meeting December 3,then brought back to Council on second reading.
2 Councilmember Elstro commented on the tax abatement requests Council heard tonight, noting that it is his
65 personal opinion that all of them should be held up until Council gets a new ordinance in place.
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8 Councilmember Parker asked if leaving Ordinance No. 116 - 1997 on second will allow public input when it
219 comes back on second and Bever answered that it would still be on public hearing.
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33 The Clerk read Ordinance No. 118 - 1997 - A GENERAL ORDINANCE MANDATING THE DEPOSIT OF
tREVENUES FROM CERTAIN PARKING VIOLATIONS TO THE OFF STREET PARKING FUND
36 President Dickman said this ordinance will also be discussed in the Committee of the Whole meeting and will
3 come back on second reading before Council.
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4r There being no further business,on a motion duly made,seconded and passed the meeting was adjourned.
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