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Home My Public Portal AboutRE_ Gulfstream Sample Light (5) IPM.Note RE: Gulfstream Sample Light RE: John Zoerhof SMTP jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM Gulfstream Sample Light Received: from impinc04.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.13.104] helo=impinc04.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1WKpij-0005sU-BZ for dbrannon@bngengineers.com; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:49:21 -0500 Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([207.46.163.143]) by impinc04.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id ZRpM1n01V35wexK02RpMNV; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:49:21 -0500 Received: from DM2PR07MB527.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.157.17) by DM2PR07MB623.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.177.148) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.888.9; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:49:19 +0000 Received: from DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.104.156) by DM2PR07MB527.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.157.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.888.9; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:49:13 +0000 Received: from DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.16.78]) by DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.16.78]) with mapi id 15.00.0888.003; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:49:13 +0000 From: John Zoerhof <jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM> To: Danny Brannon <DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com> CC: "'Michael, Imparato'" <mimparato@beaconproducts.com>, Tony Plonner <tplonner@lightingdynamics.com> Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light Thread-Topic: Gulfstream Sample Light Thread-Index: AQFzkK4lzlucG5H9U9CAlSUOjeo+QwGT5ZzXAclMHcU= X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:49:12 +0000 Message-ID: <dd9396405ea046ef99503e66658a12ae@DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <294F7A0BAD0D5B4C8F7B28910CBA073D115FCF91A2@LDI-01.lightingdynamics.local> <002101cf37ad$e0626b50$a12741f0$@BnGEngineers.com> Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-en-origip: 207.46.163.143 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_011_dd9396405ea046ef99503e66658a12aeDM2PR07MB416namprd07pro_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 John Zoerhof SMTP jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Danny Brannon Hypower Gulfstream Sample Light BTW, this fixture did not have any documentation with the packaging. I have not seen a cut sheet on it to know what the fixture is capable of. Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services [cid:image001.png@01CF3786.8EA6DFC0]<http://www.hypowerinc.com/> From: John Zoerhof Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:40 AM To: 'Danny Brannon' Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light My experience in LED has never included dimming capabilities in a n application such as this. Normally the fixture is designed for the application. Or the fixture/lamp itself is already “dimmable” but I have only seen those in interior type applications. That being said, a quick “google” education upon receipt of this email shows that there may be solutions in the way of different drivers, constant current, etc… I would think the manufacturer should be able to steer us in the right direction. We are basically looking for a “set it and forget it” scenario I would think. Once it is set it will stay in place for the life of the fixture. So we would want to look at any life expectancy issues with that. Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services [cid:image002.png@01CF3786.8EA6DFC0]<http://www.hypowerinc.com/> From: Danny Brannon [mailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:30 AM To: John Zoerhof Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light John, I realize LED fixtures are somewhat new technology. Are you familiar with the “Driver” device in an LED fixture? ( FYI- John is the Contractor installing the utility facilities, and a master electrician.) Danny P. Brannon, P.E. Brannon & Gillespie, LLC Consulting Engineers 631 US Highway One, Suite 301 North Palm Beach, Florida 33408 Off: (561) 847-4435 Cell: (561) 307-9454 Website: www.BnGEngineers..com<http://www.bngengineers.com/> From: Tony Plonner [mailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 9:23 AM To: dbrannon@bngengineers.com<mailto:dbrannon@bngengineers.com> Cc: Michael, Imparato (mimparato@beaconproducts.com<mailto:mimparato@beaconproducts.com>) Subject: Gulfstream Sample Light Dear Danny: Here is a quick way to reduce the light output of the sample fixture. This comment is from the engineer at Beacon: “Two drivers in the fixture. Disconnect one driver and move the engine wires to the other driver, that way you’ll get 27W fixture.” Also, I am awaiting on information as t dimming the fixture. Beacon does not recommend putting the frosted lenses in. One recommendation would be to eliminate the lenses, as they are not really required with the LEDs. We do that quite often so we still have the same appearance, without the maintenance required cleaning lenses, etc. Going to a 3000K color temperature reduce the light output about 15%. I could bring a 3000K demo lamp to you so they could see the difference in color temperature. Please let me know if you need one. Finally, my experience has been, when people are evaluating any type of light fixture, indoors or outdoors, they are focusing on the fixture, looking directly at it, etc. I commonly get comments about the brightness, etc., but when fixtures are in normal use, people usually do not pay that much attention. If we were still using a metal halide or HPS option, and people looked at the fixture, they would probably still complain about “glare”. Regards, __________________________ Tony Plonner, CPMR Principal Lighting Dynamics inc. 7835 W Commercial Blvd. Tamarac, FL 33351 O: (954) 944-0223 M: (561) 718-8917 F: (954) 763-1503 Main: 954-944-0286 tplonner@lightingdynamics.com<mailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.com> www.LightingDynamics.com<http://www.LightingDynamics.com> Passionate • Professional • Proficient [Description: Description: http://www.lightingdynamics.com/images/home-logo.jpg] ________________________ Follow us on Social Media: [face-book.png]<http://www.facebook.com/LightingDynamics?ref=hl>[twitter.png]<https://twitter.com/LightingDynamic>[linkdin.png]<http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lighting-dynamics-inc/52/357/14?trk=tbr>[bl og.png]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightingdynamics/>[youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/user/LightingDynamics> ________________________________ [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]<http://www.avast.com/> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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I have not seen a cut sheet on it to know what the fixture is capable of. Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services http://www.hypowerinc.com/ cid:image001.png@01CF3786.8EA6DFC0 From: John Zoerhof Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:40 AM To: 'Danny Brannon' Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light My experience in LED has never included dimming capabilities in a n application such as this. Normally the fixture is designed for the application. Or the fixture/lamp itself is already “dimmable” but I have only seen those in interior type applications. That being said, a quick “google” education upon receipt of this email shows that there may be solutions in the way of different drivers, constant current, etc… I would think the manufacturer should be able to steer us in the right direction. We are basically looking for a “set it and forget it” scenario I would think. Once it is set it will stay in place for the life of the fixture. So we would want to look at any life expectancy issues with that. Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services http://www.hypowerinc.com/ cid:image002.png@01CF3786.8EA6DFC0 From: Danny Brannon [ mailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.commailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:30 AM To: John Zoerhof Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light John, I realize LED fixtures are somewhat new technology. Are you familiar with the “Driver” device in an LED fixture? ( FYI- John is the Contractor installing the utility facilities, and a master electrician.) Danny P. Brannon, P.E. Brannon & Gillespie, LLC Consulting Engineers 631 US Highway One, Suite 301 North Palm Beach, Florida 33408 Off: (561) 847-4435 Cell: (561) 307-9454 Website: http://www.bngengineers.com/www.BnGEngineers..com From: Tony Plonner [ mailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.commailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 9:23 AM To: mailto:dbrannon@bngengineers.comdbrannon@bngengineers.com Cc: Michael, Imparato ( mailto:mimparato@beaconproducts.commimparato@beaconproducts.com) Subject: Gulfstream Sample Light Dear Danny: Here is a quick way to reduce the light output of the sample fixture. This comment is from the engineer at Beacon: “Two drivers in the fixture. Disconnect one driver and move the engine wires to the other driver, that way you’ll get 27W fixture.” Also, I am awaiting on information as t dimming the fixture. Beacon does not recommend putting the frosted lenses in. One recommendation would be to eliminate the lenses, as they are not really required with the LEDs. We do that quite often so we still have the same appearance, without the maintenance required cleaning lenses, etc. Going to a 3000K color temperature reduce the light output about 15%. I could bring a 3000K demo lamp to you so they could see the difference in color temperature. Please let me know if you need one. Finally, my experience has been, when people are evaluating any type of light fixture, indoors or outdoors, they are focusing on the fixture, looking directly at it, etc. I commonly get comments about the brightness, etc., but when fixtures are in normal use, people usually do not pay that much attention. If we were still using a metal halide or HPS option, and people looked at the fixture, they would probably still complain about “glare”. 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