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HomeMy Public PortalAboutRE_ Gulfstream Sample Light (7) IPM.Note RE: Gulfstream Sample Light RE: John Zoerhof SMTP jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM Gulfstream Sample Light Received: from impinc04.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.13.104] helo=impinc04.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan06.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1WKqcC-0005bj-TQ for dbrannon@bngengineers.com; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 09:46:40 -0500 Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([207.46.163.189]) by impinc04.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id ZSme1n01k45VaVb02SmfTx; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 09:46:40 -0500 Received: from DM2PR07MB525.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.157.11) by DM2PR07MB303.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.105.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.888.9; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:46:36 +0000 Received: from DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.104.156) by DM2PR07MB525.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.157.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.888.9; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:46:29 +0000 Received: from DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.16.78]) by DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.16.78]) with mapi id 15.00.0888.003; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:46:29 +0000 From: John Zoerhof <jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM> To: Danny Brannon <DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com> Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light Thread-Topic: Gulfstream Sample Light Thread-Index: AQFzkK4lzlucG5H9U9CAlSUOjeo+QwGT5ZzXAtwcj88A/nw/KQHXQa5d X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:46:28 +0000 Message-ID: <4637957c6b034e1e8ad5af6493ee5d8e@DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <294F7A0BAD0D5B4C8F7B28910CBA073D115FCF91A2@LDI-01.lightingdynamics.local> <002101cf37ad$e0626b50$a12741f0$@BnGEngineers.com> <b2eda12f88a544f7ba3a120d7c44ca34@DM2PR07MB416.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <003c01cf37b7$40be2620$c23a7260$@BnGEngineers.com> In-Reply-To: <003c01cf37b7$40be2620$c23a7260$@BnGEngineers.com> Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-en-origip: 207.46.163.189 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_011_4637957c6b034e1e8ad5af6493ee5d8eDM2PR07MB416namprd07pro_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 John Zoerhof SMTP jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM Danny Brannon Hypower Gulfstream Sample Light Danny, I will get out there at around 11:30 and open the fixture to see if Tony’s suggestion is readily identifiable. I will update then. Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services [cid:image008.png@01CF378E.8ED19FA0]<http://www.hypowerinc.com/> From: Danny Brannon [mailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:37 AM To: John Zoerhof Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; 'Tony Plonner' Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light I believe the Life Shield Circuit probably relates to the circuitry which reduces voltage when the temperature exceed a certain threshold to promote lamp life. Tony was to order a dimmable fixture so we could reduce the light levels as needed to satisfy the residents. The note below talks about disconnecting one of the drivers, but I am concerned that we have no schematic or experience with these parts. Danny P. Brannon, P.E. Brannon & Gillespie, LLC Consulting Engineers 631 US Highway One, Suite 301 North Palm Beach, Florida 33408 Off: (561) 847-4435 Cell: (561) 307-9454 Website: www.BnGEngineers..com<http://www.bngengineers.com/> From: John Zoerhof [mailto:jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 AM To: Danny Brannon Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light Found this online. In the section describing the “LifeShield Circuit” it does mention an incorporated dimmable 1-10 Volt driver but there are no instructions as to how to manipulate that. Ideas? Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services [cid:image009.png@01CF378E.8ED19FA0]<http://www.hypowerinc.com/> From: Danny Brannon [mailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:30 AM To: John Zoerhof Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light John, I realize LED fixtures are somewhat new technology. Are you familiar with the “Driver” device in an LED fixture? ( FYI- John is the Contractor installing the utility facilities, and a master electrician.) Danny P. Brannon, P.E. Brannon & Gillespie, LLC Consulting Engineers 631 US Highway One, Suite 301 North Palm Beach, Florida 33408 Off: (561) 847-4435 Cell: (561) 307-9454 Website: www.BnGEngineers...com<http://www.bngengineers.com/> From: Tony Plonner [mailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 9:23 AM To: dbrannon@bngengineers.com<mailto:dbrannon@bngengineers.com> Cc: Michael, Imparato (mimparato@beaconproducts.com<mailto:mimparato@beaconproducts.com>) Subject: Gulfstream Sample Light Dear Danny: Here is a quick way to reduce the light output of the sample fixture. This comment is from the engineer at Beacon: “Two drivers in the fixture. Disconnect one driver and move the engine wires to the other driver, that way you’ll get 27W fixture.” Also, I am awaiting on information as t dimming the fixture. Beacon does not recommend putting the frosted lenses in. One recommendation would be to eliminate the lenses, as they are not really required with the LEDs. We do that quite often so we still have the same appearance, without the maintenance required cleaning lenses, etc. Going to a 3000K color temperature reduce the light output about 15%. I could bring a 3000K demo lamp to you so they could see the difference in color temperature. Please let me know if you need one. Finally, my experience has been, when people are evaluating any type of light fixture, indoors or outdoors, they are focusing on the fixture, looking directly at it, etc. I commonly get comments about the brightness, etc., but when fixtures are in normal use, people usually do not pay that much attention. If we were still using a metal halide or HPS option, and people looked at the fixture, they would probably still complain about “glare”. Regards, __________________________ Tony Plonner, CPMR Principal Lighting Dynamics inc. 7835 W Commercial Blvd. Tamarac, FL 33351 O: (954) 944-0223 M: (561) 718-8917 F: (954) 763-1503 Main: 954-944-0286 tplonner@lightingdynamics.com<mailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.com> www.LightingDynamics.com<http://www.LightingDynamics.com> Passionate • Professional • Proficient [Description: Description: http://www.lightingdynamics.com/images/home-logo.jpg] ________________________ Follow us on Social Media: [face-book.png]<http://www.facebook.com/LightingDynamics?ref=hl>[twitter.png]<https://twitter.com/LightingDynamic>[linkdin.png]<http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lighting-dynamics-inc/52/357/14?trk=tbr>[bl og.png]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightingdynamics/>[youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/user/LightingDynamics> ________________________________ [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png]<http://www.avast.com/> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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I will update then. Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services http://www.hypowerinc.com/ cid:image008.png@01CF378E.8ED19FA0 From: Danny Brannon [mailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:37 AM To: John Zoerhof Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; 'Tony Plonner' Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light I believe the Life Shield Circuit probably relates to the circuitry which reduces voltage when the temperature exceed a certain threshold to promote lamp life. Tony was to order a dimmable fixture so we could reduce the light levels as needed to satisfy the residents. The note below talks about disconnecting one of the drivers, but I am concerned that we have no schematic or experience with these parts. Danny P. Brannon, P.E. Brannon & Gillespie, LLC        Consulting Engineers      631 US Highway One, Suite 301     North Palm Beach, Florida 33408 Off: (561) 847-4435  Cell: (561) 307-9454     Website: http://www.bngengineers.com/www.BnGEngineers..com From: John Zoerhof [ mailto:jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COMmailto:jzoerhof@HYPOWERINC.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 AM To: Danny Brannon Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light Found this online. In the section describing the “LifeShield Circuit” it does mention an incorporated dimmable 1-10 Volt driver but there are no instructions as to how to manipulate that. Ideas? Thanks, John Zoerhof Division Manager – Power Services http://www.hypowerinc.com/ cid:image009.png@01CF378E.8ED19FA0 From: Danny Brannon [ mailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.commailto:DBrannon@BnGEngineers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:30 AM To: John Zoerhof Cc: 'Michael, Imparato'; Tony Plonner Subject: RE: Gulfstream Sample Light John, I realize LED fixtures are somewhat new technology. Are you familiar with the “Driver” device in an LED fixture? ( FYI- John is the Contractor installing the utility facilities, and a master electrician.) Danny P. Brannon, P.E. Brannon & Gillespie, LLC        Consulting Engineers      631 US Highway One, Suite 301     North Palm Beach, Florida 33408 Off: (561) 847-4435  Cell: (561) 307-9454     Website: http://www.bngengineers.com/www.BnGEngineers...com From: Tony Plonner [ mailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.commailto:tplonner@lightingdynamics.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 9:23 AM To: mailto:dbrannon@bngengineers.comdbrannon@bngengineers.com Cc: Michael, Imparato ( mailto:mimparato@beaconproducts.commimparato@beaconproducts.com) Subject: Gulfstream Sample Light Dear Danny: Here is a quick way to reduce the light output of the sample fixture. This comment is from the engineer at Beacon: “Two drivers in the fixture. Disconnect one driver and move the engine wires to the other driver, that way you’ll get 27W fixture.” Also, I am awaiting on information as t dimming the fixture.  Beacon does not recommend putting the frosted lenses in.  One recommendation would be to eliminate the lenses, as they are not really required with the LEDs.  We do that quite often so we still have the same appearance, without the maintenance required cleaning lenses, etc. Going to a 3000K color temperature reduce the light output about 15%.  I could bring a 3000K demo lamp to you so they could see the difference in color temperature.  Please let me know if you need one. Finally, my experience has been, when people are evaluating any type of light fixture, indoors or outdoors, they are focusing on the fixture, looking directly at it, etc.  I commonly get comments about the brightness, etc., but when fixtures are in normal use, people usually do not pay that much attention.  If we were still using a metal halide or HPS option, and people looked at the fixture, they would probably still complain about “glare”. 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