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Audit Committee Meeting
Monday, April 7, 2007
4:00 PM
Tybee Old School – Room 7
MINUTES
Attendance: John Major, Freda Rutherford, Sue Off, David Birdwell, Jim Anderson, Sam
Adams
Guests: Jan Fox, Kathryn Williams
John Major called the meeting to order at 4:05 PM.
There was a motion by Jim, second by Sam, to approve the minutes from the March 19th Auditor
Entrance Meeting as presented. All approved.
There was a motion by Jim, second by Sue to approve the minutes from the March 19th Audit
Committee meeting as presented. All approved.
There was a motion by Jim, second by John, to approve the minutes from the Auditor Exit
Conference as presented.
Discussion of the independent audit ensued. Effective for fiscal year 2006, Statements of
Accounting Standards (SAS) 103 and 112 were implemented. The new standards re-defined
thresholds of materiality so that each fund is now evaluated individually and those funds with
audit adjustments equal to or greater than 20% of the fund value were identified and reported. As
a result of these changes in standards, our auditors identified a number of such incidents of
materiality and an audit finding was written. A second finding was likewise a result of the SAS
changes. Sue asked if Tybee was aware of the new regulations. She said we pay the auditors
enough so that they should communicate the new rules. Jan said she while she had been aware of
SAS 112 and had attended workshops on the requirement, the city had not fully anticipated the
impact of the changes. John said that the auditors had stated that for this first year of
implementation, many municipalities would be in a similar situation because of the changes. Jan
said that it is not unusual for communications from the auditor or from the State to go to the
elected officials. John asked that any communications dealing with changes in regulations be
copied to the audit committee.
John handed out the Auditor’s Government Materiality Limit Determination Memo which had
been provided by the Auditor and explained the thresholds for materiality. Jan reviewed the
chart and explained each column.
John handed out the four slides from a presentation downloaded from the internet
explaining the SAS changes. He noted that the document is dated July 25, 2006 and was
effective immediately. Sam noted that the auditor didn’t get the information until half-way
through the year to be audited. John pointed out that SAS 104-111, which is effective in 2007, is
described as the most far-reaching changes in standards in 20 years. Jan commented that the new
standards will require considerably more work on the part of the municipality – financial
documents previously prepared by the auditor will now be required to be done by staff,
while the auditor will be required to do significantly more field work and testing than
before.
John said he wasn’t pleased with the auditors’ response to our list of concerns. A number of
issues had been raised in our initial telephone conference on November 1, 2006, covered
in emails prior to the audit and reiterated at the opening meeting. Jan clarified that while
not much was said in the exit meeting about these issues, she felt that the auditors had
done more thorough “digging”, including in these areas, than they had in the past, and
that she felt they had gone deep enough to have identified problems had they been there.
Freda said that in her experience that for a law to be enforced you must have at least 95%
compliance. If most communities cannot comply the audit issues will not be meaningful to the
state, or anyone. We need to focus on findings that we think are important.
John indicated that he had expected to receive a draft report at the conclusion of the audit.
Jan said she has a draft trial balance but not an audit report, and that the trial balance had been
her understanding. Sam asked if the auditors were looking for fraud in the new requirements.
Jan said no – compliance. John asked how many staff had accounting degrees; Jan responded
zero. She said only the CFO position requires a degree. Jan said we are competitive on pay. She
said that the implementation of the new regulations will increase the importance of
having an internal audit function.
John said that with SAS 104 – 111 there will be a greater emphasis on testing and a lot of field
work. According to our auditors, the new regulations can be expected to increase. As a
final comment on the audit, John said that the exit meeting should not take place until the
conclusion of on-site auditing activities.
All approved the motion to accept the Exit Conference minutes.
Kathryn informed the committee that David’s reappointment is on the agenda for the next council
meeting.
John raised the complaint that Freda had received about the ceramic center, i.e. that a city
building was being used for a private purpose. Freda asked about the auditor’s comments of his
understanding that $6,000 had been budgeted for the purchase of supplies and that all citizens
could use the center. Jan said the Tybee Arts Association had received $3,000 for the Tybee
Turtle and $3,000 for an arts show but that the ceramic center gets no funds from the city. Freda
said she objected to the use of a city facility and utilities for a private group but future use of the
facility is up to the council. John said that the issue had been reported to the City Manager
and that she was pursuing it.
Kathryn asked about bids for dune cross-overs. Jan said the bids could not be evaluated because
there were no drawings.
John asked about what happened at W & S. Jan said the director did not survive the probationary
period.
John reported that the interviews for the new CFO are moving forward. Second interviews are
this week.
John handed out the “Elected Officials Guide to Audit Committees” developed by the
Government Finance Officers Association. He proposed that we take a section each month. Sam
Adams offered to lead discussion on Section 1 for May. John said that, per the guide’s
recommendation, he wants to start reviewing the monthly and quarterly budget vs. actual that are
sent to the council. Jan said she would ensure that the committee received whatever updates
the Council is given.
Ethics Committee Report:
Sue reported that the ordinance is moving along. The committee gave it to the City Attorney for
his review and putting in a legal format. It is scheduled for a first reading at the April 26th council
meeting. John asked if the existing committee will function as the ethics committee. Sue said no
there is an appointment procedure in the ordinance if adopted. Sam asked that if the council
cannot delegate the responsibility for hearing complaints how will they function? Sue said they
will be quasi-judicial and will have the power to investigate and recommend action to council.
She also said she had researched who was covered and said it is all city employees including
judges.
AUDIT RFP
John stated that the current three year audit contract with Mauldin and Jenkins expires at the
conclusion of the 2006 audit. Under the terms of the present agreement, the contract may be
extended for two years, if both the City and the Auditor agree to terms, conditions and price.
John suggested that the committee move ahead and begin a draft RFP. Freda said she would
rather negotiate with Mauldin and Jenkins first to see if we can reach an agreement. John stated
that since we had been put on notice that the price with our current auditor is going up due to new
requirements, we need to be prepared in the event we do not reach acceptable terms, and to
confirm that the terms of the extension are competitive. Jan suggested the committee look at the
representation letter from M & J. Jan said if we can get agreement on conditions and price we
could continue with M & J and that there is a great deal of benefit from dealing with an auditor
who has been through the learning curve.
Old Business:
David asked if the community organizations are in compliance with their contracts. Jan said they
are. Jan said audited financial statements are available at the city web site under the Finance
Department page.
New Business: None
The meeting was adjourned at 5:35 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Freda Rutherford, Secretary