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AGENDA
CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE/
SOCIAL SERVICE ADVISORY COUNCIL
1:30 P.M., MONDAY, APRIL 2, 1990
PLEASE NOTE LOCATION CHANGE
SCAG INLAND EMPIRE OFFICE
3600 LIME STREET, SUITE 216
RIVERSIDE, CA 92501
PHONE # (714) 787-7141
1. Call to Order. q�
2. Approval of Minutes (February 5, 19,8%I) . AUPICN
3. Public Comments.
4. April 30 CAC Meeting (At SunLine) DISCUSSION
5. UMTA 16(b)2 Program - Mr. Jo Sanford INFO
6. Social Service Transportation Delivery Study INFO/ACTION
Update Presented by - Ms. Pat Piras
7. FY 1990 TDA Unmet Needs.
8. Other Business.
9. Adjournment.
INFO/ACTION
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R I V E R S I D E C O U N T Y T R A N S P O R T A T I O N C O M M I S S I O N
M i n u t e s o f t h e
C i t i z e n s A d v i s o r y C o m m i t t e e /
S o c i a l S e r v i c e A d v i s o r y C o u n c i l
F e b r u a r y 5 , 1 9 9 0
1 . C a l l t o O r d e r .
T h e m e e t i n g o f t h e C i t i z e n s A d v i s o r y C o m m i t t e e / S o c i a l S e r v i c e s A d v i s o r y C o u n c i l w a s c a l l e d t o o r d e r
b y C a t h y B e c h t e l , C h a i r m a n P r o - T e m a t 1 : 4 2 p . m . a t t h e R i v e r s i d e C o u n t y T r a n s p o r t a t i o n
C o m m i s s i o n C o n f e r e n c e R o o m , 3 5 6 0 U n i v e r s i t y A v e n u e , S t e . 1 0 0 , R i v e r s i d e , C A .
M e m b e r s p r e s e n t :
A n i t a A l c o r n
C a t h y B e c h t e l
D o n H i g h
H e r b e r t K r a u c h
L u c i a M o r a n
M e m b e r s a b s e n t :
T e r r y A l l e n
A c e A t k i n s o n
* R a y B a c a
* R o s e E l d r i d g e
L o r i N i c k e l
L e o n O v e r t o n
D o n S e n g e r
C l a r e n c e S w a l v e
D i c k W e e k s
* J o a n n e M o o r e
R e n a P a r k e r
* C h u c k S c h m i t t
* * T o m P a r a d i s e
* E x c u s e d
* * T o m P a r a d i s e i s t h e a l t e r n a t e f o r S o C a l i f G a s C o r e p r e s e n t a t i v e .
O t h e r s p r e s e n t :
D e b r a A s t i n , S u n l i n e T r a n s i t A g e n c y
( R e p r e s e n t i n g L e e N o r w i n e )
S a n d y C o o k , R C T C S t a f f
J o a n E l l i s , R . C . S e n i o r C i t i z e n C o a l i t i o n
J e r r y R i v e r a , R C T C S t a f f
J i m S t o f f e r , R i v e r s i d e T r a n s i t A g e n c y
( R e p r e s e n t i n g D u r a n d R a l l )
H i d e o S u g i t a , R C T C S t a f f
M a r i l y n W i l l i a m s , R C T C S t a f f
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P a g e 2
M i n u t e s o f F e b r u a r y 5 , 1 9 9 0 M e e t i n g
2 . A p p r o v a l o f M i n u t e s
T h e m i n u t e s o f t h e D e c e m b e r 4 , 1 9 8 9 m e e t i n g w e r e c o r r e c t e d t o r e f l e c t L u c i a M o r a n a s a n e x c u s e d
a b s e n c e a n d t o r e m o v e D u r a n d R a l l a n d L e e N o r w i n e f r o m t h e m e m b e r s a b s e n t a s n e i t h e r R T A n o r
S u n l i n e a r e m e m b e r s o f t h e C i t i z e n s A d v i s o r y C o m m i t t e e .
M / S / C ( W E E K S / N I C K E L ) t h a t t h e m i n u t e s o f t h e D e c e m b e r 4 , 1 9 8 9 m e e t i n g b e a p p r o v e d a s
c o r r e c t e d .
3 . P u b l i c C o m m e n t s
T h e r e w e r e n o p u b l i c c o m m e n t s .
4 . C i t i z e n s A d v i s o r y C o m m i t t e e M e e t i n g S c h e d u l e f o r 1 9 9 0 .
H i d e o S u g i t a e x p l a i n e d t h a t t h e C i t i z e n s A d v i s o r y C o m m i t t e e m e e t i n g d a t e i s a p p r o x i m a t e l y 9 d a y s
p r i o r t o t h e C o m m i s s i o n m e e t i n g w h i c h i s t h e s e c o n d W e d n e s d a y o f t h e m o n t h . T h e C A C h a s a
c o m m i t m e n t t o h o l d t w o m e e t i n g s d u r i n g t h e y e a r i n t h e C o a c h e l l a V a l l e y a r e a . H i d e o S u g i t a
s u g g e s t e d a m e e t i n g i n t h e S p r i n g a n d t h e n o n e i n t h e F a l l . T h e C o m m i t t e e d i s c u s s e d p o s s i b l e d a t e s
a n d a g r e e d u p o n A p r i l 3 0 i n s t e a d o f A p r i l 2 ; t h i s w i l l a l l o w t i m e f o r t h e t r a n s c r i p t i o n o f t h e u n m e t
n e e d s h e a r i n g s t o b e c o m p l e t e d a n d t h e r e s u l t s t o b e r e v i e w e d b y s t a f f . T h e F a l l m e e t i n g w i l l b e
h e l d o n N o v e m b e r 5 . B o t h o f t h e s e m e e t i n g s , A p r i l 3 0 a n d N o v e m b e r 5 w i l l b e h e l d a t t h e S u n l i n e
B o a r d R o o m i f t h e m e e t i n g r o o m s c h e d u l e p e r m i t s . D e b r a A s t i n o f t h e S u n l i n e s t a f f w i l l c h e c k o n
t h e d a t e s a n d g e t b a c k t o t h e C o m m i t t e e . A s w i t h t h e p r e v i o u s m e e t i n g a t S u n l i n e , R T A w i l l p r o v i d e
a m i n i - v a n t o t r a n s p o r t C o m m i t t e e m e m b e r s , s h o u l d t h e y w i s h . T h e C o m m i t t e e a l s o d i s c u s s e d
c h a n g i n g t h e t i m e o f t h e s e t w o m e e t i n g s , d u e t o t h e t e m p e r a t u r e i n t h e d e s e r t a n d t o p r e v e n t a l a t e
r e t u r n f r o m t h e m e e t i n g s . C a t h y B e c h t e l s a i d t h e t i m e o f t h e A p r i l 3 0 a n d N o v e m b e r 5 m e e t i n g s
w i l l b e d e t e r m i n e d a n d t h e C o m m i t t e e m e m b e r s w i l l b e i n f o r m e d p r i o r t o t h e m e e t i n g d a t e .
5 . F Y 1 9 9 0 T D A U n m e t N e e d s H e a r i n g S c h e d u l e
H i d e o S u g i t a s t a t e d t h a t , i n c l u d e d i n t h e a g e n d a , w a s a c o p y o f t h e p a c k e t o f i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t i s
d i s t r i b u t e d a t t h e u n m e t n e e d s h e a r i n g . T h i s p a c k e t c o n t a i n s a n o v e r v i e w o f t h e T D A A c t ; a l i s t i n g
o f t h e d a t e s o f a l l o f t h e h e a r i n g s ; a d d i t i o n a l m a i l - o u t t h a t w a s s e n t t o t h e s e n i o r c e n t e r s , s o c i a l
s e r v i c e / j o b d e v e l o p m e n t p r o g r a m a g e n c i e s , a n d a n y o f t h e w o r k s h o p s t h a t a r e a s s o c i a t e d w i t h t h e
d e v e l o p m e n t a l l y d i s a b l e d ; a n d a c o p y o f t h e d i s p l a y a d v e r t i s e m e n t t h a t w i l l b e i n t h e l o c a l
n e w s p a p e r s a p p r o x i m a t e l y o n e w e e k b e f o r e t h e h e a r i n g d a t e t o c a t c h t h e a t t e n t i o n o f t h o s e
i n d i v i d u a l s t h a t m i g h t h a v e a n i n t e r e s t i n a t t e n d i n g t h e u n m e t n e e d s h e a r i n g s . A d d i t i o n a l l y , t h e r e
w i l l b e p l a c a r d s p l a c e d o n t h e R i v e r s i d e T r a n s i t A g e n c y a n d S u n l i n e b u s e s a w e e k b e f o r e t h e h e a r i n g
d a t e . T h e r e a r e t w o m e e t i n g s s c h e d u l e d o n F e b r u a r y 1 4 ; o n e a t 9 : 0 0 a . m . a t t h e R C T C o f f i c e s a n d
o n e a t 2 : 0 0 p . m . a t t h e L a k e E l s i n o r e B o a r d r o o m i n c o n j u n c t i o n w i t h t h e R C T C C o m m i s s i o n
m e e t i n g . O n T h u r s d a y F e b r u a r y 2 2 , 1 9 9 0 a n u n m e t n e e d s h e a r i n g w i l l b e h e l d i n B l y t h e .
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Commissioners Pat Murphy, Corky Larson and Susan Cornelison will be attending that hearing. On
March 14 an unmet needs hearing will be held at Palm Desert City Hall, again in conjunction with
the Commission meeting. Anita Alcorn and Leon Overton asked that copies of the agenda packet
information be provided to them so they could distribute as they see necessary. Jerry Rivera said
he would make the copies and see that they are given to the Committee members that request them.
Leon Overton stated, on behalf of his contingency, that the packet is very well put together and
provides a large amount of necessary information.
6. FY 1989 UMTA 16(b)2 Program Results.
Hideo Sugita said that last year there were four applications for UMTA 16(b)2 program funds. The
Commission, for their part, reviews the applications and then forwards them with recommendations
to the State inter -agency review committee which is comprised of representatives from the
Department of Rehabilitation, the Department of Aging and one other party. Two of the four
applications were recommended for approval. The two successful applicants were Meditrans and
Family Services. The other two applicants, Mt. Rubidoux Manor and Riverside Congregational
Homes (Plymouth Towers), were not approved and rated too low for funding for the FY 1989
application process. Hideo Sugita then pointed out that the amount for Family Services shown in
his memo included in the agenda packet, is an incorrect amount. The amount identified by Caltrans
as $39,000 total funds with a Federal amount of $31,200 should be total funds of $85,000 with a
Federal amount of $68,000. Members of the Citizens Advisory Committee had a number of
questions concerning the 16(b)2 application process and criteria for choosing the successful
applicants. Hideo Sugita stated that he will invite Caltrans to the next meeting to do a presentation
concerning the UMTA 16(b)2 process.
7. Potential Policies for Measure A Elderly and Handicapped Transit Programs.
Hideo Sugita reviewed the previous policy recommendations of the Western Policy Advisory
Committee (comprised of elected officials in the Western County) regarding potential policies for
Measure A Elderly and Handicapped Transit programs. Hideo Sugita included, as an attachment
to this agenda item, a memorandum reviewing the policies that have previously been in place: 1)
To use Measure A funds to assist operators to meet their fare box ratio (on the dial -a -ride systems)
to avoid the need for a fare increase; 2) An interim policy that divided the Western County share
of the 5% Measure A funds for transit programs into two categories - 50% for specialized transit
services and 50% for commuter services (this is not a set funding ratio, just a guideline). He then
outlined the proposed policies: 3) Adopt a policy of 50% of the cost of commuter buspools be
covered by fares and employer contributions; and 4) The Measure A subsidies for commuter
buspools which operate between the Measure A areas or between counties should be split equally
between the Measure A areas or counties. Staff recommended to the Western County Policy
Advisory Committee to use Measure A funds to match the UMTA 16(b)2 funds and provide operating
assistance, where possible. Successful applicants can receive 80% federal funds for these projects.
Part of the Commission's requirements for agencies applying for UMTA 16(b)2 funds, is there must
be coordination of van use with other social service agencies.
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Lori Nickel expressed concern with the E&H Policy's lack of a distinct separation in each of the
"geographical" areas of Riverside County (Western County, Palo Verde Valley and Coachella Valley)
in the Measure A administration, and that each area should be looked at separately and a different
policy should be set for each area because they will each have different needs. Hideo Sugita said
he will discuss with management the suggestion that Commission needs to be more cognizant of
the fact that there are separate geographical areas involved with separate Measure A administrative
needs. The E&H Policy, as presently written, gives the impression we are adopting a county -wide
policy and that may not be all together true.
Sunline staff submitted a letter citing their concerns with the E&H policy. Debra Astin outlined
Sunline's concerns in detail and, since the letter was not available in time to distribute to the
Committee members, Hideo Sugita said this letter will be included in the publication of the minutes.
M/S/C (NICKEL/SENGER) to accept the recommendations of Staff to establish a policy similar to
the one presented today, but have the details outlined by the Western County Policy Advisory
Committee, since this is a policy decision to be made by their Committee.
Don Senger stated that, as a result of a discussion at the prior Citizens Advisory Committee meeting,
Paul Blackwelder said that he would provide to the Committee details and an update on the
spending of Measure A funds. The Committee members have received a number of inquiries from
the constituents concerning the application of the Measure A funds. Hideo Sugita responded that
Paul Blackwelder could not be available for today's meeting, but would bring an update to the next
meeting.
8. Social Service Transportation Delivery Study.
Hideo Sugita presented a handout outlining a re -direction for the Social Service Transportation
Study. He said the study was started in May of 1989 and the consultant has had a number of
unfortunate problems the last month and has not been able to work on the Social Service
Transportation Delivery Study. Hideo Sugita went on to further explain that there have been four
technical papers prepared to date: (1) Looked at the definition of social service transportation and
public transportation; (2) All of the possible alternatives; (3) Who are the potential players - who
might be a CTSA? and; (4) Where do we go from here? This is the point where the study stands
now. The outline Hideo Sugita presented suggested the following done: (1) There needs to be a
more definitive definition of social service transportation vs. public transportation; (2) Review the
findings of the AB 120 action plan and list the responsibilities of the CTSAs; (3) Ask the CTSA to
examine their desire to carry out these responsibilities and remain a CTSA; (4) Review the existing
dial -a -ride services in terms of who is going where and what are the trip purposes?; (5) Review how
unmet needs are currently being met. There is $15,000 left in the existing contract to complete this
study; (6) Determine if there are any other needs that are not being met and, if so, why are they
not being met.
M/S/C (WEEKS/MORAN) to affirm that these steps are a logical and good direction to recommend
a re -direction of this study and present the recommendation to the Commission. Leon Overton was
an opposing vote to this motion.
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P a g e 5
M i n u t e s o f F e b r u a r y 5 , 1 9 9 0 M e e t i n g
9 . C A C R e p r e s e n t a t i v e R e s i g n a t i o n s .
A r n o l d D i c k s o n ( C h a i r m a n o f t h e C o a l i t i o n f o r B e t t e r T r a n s p o r t a t i o n f o r t h e S o u t h e r n C a l i f o r n i a G a s
C o . ) h a s s u b m i t t e d h i s l e t t e r o f r e s i g n a t i o n f r o m t h e C i t i z e n s A d v i s o r y C o m m i t t e e a s h e i s b e i n g
t r a n s f e r r e d i n h i s j o b t o G l e n d a l e . T h e r e i s n o r e p l a c e m e n t a t p r e s e n t . A r e p l a c e m e n t c a n n o t b e
a p p o i n t e d f o r A r n o l d D i c k s o n u n t i l a n e w C h a i r m a n i s a p p o i n t e d f o r t h e C o a l i t i o n f o r B e t t e r
T r a n s p o r t a t i o n .
M i k e B e g g i n s ( P r i v a t e I n d u s t r y C o u n c i l ) a l s o h a s s u b m i t t e d h i s l e t t e r o f r e s i g n a t i o n . G i l b e r t L o p e z ,
a l s o o f t h e P r i v a t e I n d u s t r y C o u n c i l , i s M i k e B e g g i n s '