HomeMy Public PortalAboutP&RAC Minutes 1991 05/08PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
MAY 8, 1991
ATTENDING: KATHY KILLEN, CHAIR
MAX WILLIAMSON
DEAN MARTENS
CRAIG BAKER, REC. DIRECTOR
BUD SCHMIDT, ADMINISTRATOR
GREG PITTENGER
BOB HILL
TIM & VICKI HEATH
TOM KERR
DAN KRAHN
BILL KIRK
ELAINE HITCHCOCK
MIKE ECKHART
MIKE McKINNEY
TED BURTON
RICHARD ESCOT
1. WESTERN CHARTERS MOORAGE - RICHARD ESCOT, T1M & VICKI HEATH
Mr. Escot informed the committee that he was in need of
approximately 150 feet of dock for mooring his three(3) commercial
charter boats. In addition, Mr. Escot informed the committee he had
approached The Shore Lodge, The Sportsman's Bar and Grill, and the
Yacht Club, they all showed interest in having the Wester Charters
business at their facility. Mr. Escot went on to ask the committee
where they could find overnight moorage for their boats that would be
on a neutral basis with all merchants.
General feeling from the committee was that they did not want
anyone setting up a commercial business on city docks. Furthermore,
staff went on to inform Western Charters that city code does not
allow any mooring at a public dock for more than six(6) hours in any
twelve(12) hour period.
2. PROPOSED LAND TRADE OF OLD CLUBHOUSE SITE - MIKE ECKHART
Staff informed committee that Mike Eckhart had approached the
city with a proposed trade of the Old Clubhouse Site(attachment "A")
for a piece of land connecting Sunny Way in Rio Vista, to the North
Fork of the Payette River(attachment "B") which the Transportation
Committee has been interested in acquiring for a second city rout
over the Payette River.
The Transportation Committee and The Parks and Recreation
Committee explored through discussion several different options. It
was very apparent the Transportation Committee was in favor of the
trade, while the Parks and Recreation Committee was afraid of loosing
a piece of bond issue property which could be sold for a short term
monetary gain that could be used for paving bike paths or other
projects currently being worked on. Furthermore, the Parks and
Recreation Committee was very cautious about, but would not be
opposed to a trade, if resources were allocated to repay the cost to
parks.
Dean Martens moved to recommend to the council that any
disposition of the Old Clubhouse property should directly benefit the
proposed park/bike path plan by the end of 1992, rather than in the
long term, to address the accountability of the bond. Williamson
seconded and motion carried unopposed.
3. MAY HARDWARE DOCK PROPOSAL - TED BURTON, ATTORNEY AT LAW
(attachment "C").
Mr. Burton explained the expansion would accommodate twenty(19)
sailboats and add 100 additional feet of dock expansion. After
lengthy discussion concerning littoral lines, parking, downtown
impact, visual impact, alternate locations and the line of
navigability, committee made three motions.
a) Williamson moved to recommend council adopt an ordinance
requiring a minimum of one(1) parking stall per boat slip
for new or expanding marinas. Martens seconded and the motion
carried.
b) Williamson moved to recommend council approve May Hardware
expansion if a minimum of 1 parking stall for each of the new 19
slips is created, the Art Roberts and the New Lakefront Park
littoral rights are not crossed, and the Department of Lands holds a
public hearing on the expansion to address public rights being
converted to private use. Second by Martens and the motion carried.
c) Williamson moved to recommend council acknowledge this approval
as a terminal expansion for the May Hardware dock system. Second by
Martens and the motion carried.
NOTE: The committee feels the drawing submitted with the application
(attachment "D") may not be complete and there may be swimmer -boater
conflicts along the East boundary of Art Roberts park.
4. NET PEN SIGNAGE
The committee advised staff to resolve the matter, but would
like to see signage consistent with the current wooden frames and
green metal signs.
5. STAFF REPORTS
CITY ADMINISTRATOR
a) Administrator informed committee that the final response
concerning the conversion had been sent to Idaho Dept. of Parks and
Recreation - Jake Howard.
b) Administrator informed committee that staff was ready with
$10,100 check to legally bid on the Mission to Stibnite Rail Road
Right of way land sale, total bid will be the minimum bid allowed of
$37,000. In addition, administrator informed committee that if city
did not win the bid process, administrator would advise council to
start condemnation within ten(10) days of sale.
c) After review and discussion of the propose Park Use Policy,
Williamson moved to recommend the council adopt the Park Use Policy
as presented by staff(attachment "E"). Martens seconded and the
motion carried.
d) Staff was asked to contact Chris Kistner and inform him he
would have to obtain a special use permit to hold a arts fair. To
obtain the permit Mr.Kistner would need to appear before the
committee with a full blown plan including access(no motorized
vehicles of any kind will be permitted in the park), parking, ect.
e) Staff handed out scaled down versions of the Lake
Front Park to Mill Park master plan for their information.
RECREATION DIRECTOR
a) Director informed committee that Mr. Duane Smith former
owner of Jughandle Softball Park had a softball backstop he wants to
sell for $350.00. After discussion committee advised staff to
recommend Mr. Smith donate the backstop to the city.
b) Director informed committee the High School shop class
wanted to donate four(4) benches to the parks. Committee advised
staff that since the benches did not match current standards in the
park system, they should not be accepted.
c) Youth Bowling's last day is May 9 and Spring Soccer will
start May 13 if weather permits.
6. OTHER BUSINESS
General meeting dates changed to the third Thursday of each
month at 7:00pm.
7. MEETING: SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY MAY 9, 4:00pm - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Review 60% drawing presented by Belts and Associates to prepare
for evening presentation to City Council.
THURSDAY, JUNE 20, NEXT GENERAL MEETING, 7:00pm.
Respe tfully su mitted,
Kathy Killen,
Chair
ATTACHMENT "A"
THOMAS W. KERR
PLS 998
KERR SURVEYING
PO BOX 853
MCCALL. IDAHO 83638
208-634-2686
April 11. 1991
OLD CLUBHOUSE PARCEL
JOEL W. DROULARD
PLS 5357
A parcel of land situate in the SE4 of the SE4. Section 4. . T.
18 N.. R. 3 E.. B. M.. City of McCall. Valley County. Idaho. more
particularly described as follows:
Commencing at the northwest corner of Lot 1. Block 8.
Amended Map of Davis Beach Tracts. City of McCall. as
shown on the official plat thereof on file in the
office of the Recorder of Valley County. Idaho. in Book
1. Page 45 of Plats: thence S. 0° 03' E.. 200.00 feet
alongthe easterly right-of-way of Davis Avenue to the
REAL POINT OF BEGINNING:
Thence. East. 220.03 feet to a rebar.
thence. S. 2° 11' E.. 216.53 feet to a rebar.
thence. N. 77° 16' W.. 233.89 feet to a" rebar on the
easterly right -of way of Davis Avenue
thence, N. 0° 03' W.. 164.81 feet along said right-of-way to
the Point of Beginning. containing 0.978 acres more or
less.
Bearings based on Amended Map of Davis Beach Tracts.
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IDAPA 20.11
appeal in the event the district court sustains the action of
the director. The applicant need post no bond with the court to
prosecute an appeal.
4.h Informal disposition may be made of an application by
stipulation, agreed settlement or consent order entered into with
the consent of the applicant and objecting adjacent property
owners.
4.i If notice to an adjacent owner is not required or if
the adjacent owner has consented to the proposed encroachment
under 4.b; and if an adjacent owner has failed to file objection
to the proposed encroachment within the time allowed following
service of notice under 4.c; and if the director does not set the
application down following hearing under 4.d; the director shall
act upon an application filed under 4.a as expeditiously as
possible but no later than sixty (60) days from receipt of the
application and failure to act within such time shall constitute
approval of the application.
4.j Upon receipt of an application for a nonnavigational
encroachment, a commercial navigational encroachment, or for a
navigational encroachment extending beyond the line of
navigability, the director shall, within ten (10) days of
acceptance for filing of the application, cause notice of the
application to be published once a week for two (2) consecutive
weeks in a newspaper of general circulation in the county in
which the encroachment is proposed, however, that if the director
orders a hearing on the application in the first instance within
the time for publication of the notice, the director shall
dispense with publication of the notice of the application and
shall proceed instead to publish notice of the hearing as
provided in 4.m. Applications for installation of buried or
submerged water intake lines and utility lines shall be exempt
from the newspaper publication process.
4.k Upon request or when the director deems it appropriate,
the director may furnish copies of the application and plans to
federal, state and local agencies and to adjacent property
owners, requesting comment on the likely effect of the proposed
encroachment upon adjacent property and lake value factors of
navigation, fish and wildlife habitat, aquatic life, recreation,
aesthetic beauty or water quality. Within thirty (30) days
following receipt of a copy of the application and plans, such
agencies shall notify the director of their opinions and
recommendation, if any, for alternate plans determined by such
agencies to be economically feasible to accomplish the purpose of
the proposed encroachment without adversely affecting
unreasonably adjacent property or other lake value factors.
IDAPA 20.11
6.f The policy, procedure and consideration for easements
shall be governed by Rules for Easements on State-owned Submerged
Lands and Formerly Submerged Lands, IDAPA 20.21.
RULE 7. INSTALLATION
7.a Installation or construction of an encroachment may
commence only when the permit is issued or when the director
notifies the applicant in writing that installation may be
commenced or when the director has failed to act in accordance
with 4.i.
7.b Where feasible, all docks, piers or similar structures
shall be constructed so as to protrude as nearly as possible at
right angles to the general shoreline and shall be constructed so
as not to interfere with docks, piers, or similar structures
presently existing or likely to be installed to serve adjacent
properties.
7.c Docks, piers or other works may extend to a length that
will provide access to a water depth that will afford sufficiPnt-
draft for water craft customarily in use on the particular body
of water during the normal low water period, except that no
structure may extend beyond the normal accepted line of
navigability established through use unless additional length is
authorized by permit or order of the director. If a normally
accepted line of navigability has not been established through
use, the director may from time to time as he deems necessary,
after public hearing, designate a line of navigability for the
purpose of effective administration of these rules.
7.d Excavated or dredged c
authorized to facilitate access
practical, such channels and bas
more than one riparian or littor
normally shall be carried on dur
exceptions are approved by the d
reasonable necessity for work to
Material removed during excavati
and deposited at a point above n
in cases where an applicant can
alternative plan for disposition
will not have an unreasonably ad
values, including water quality.
called for in the permit.
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ATTACHMENT "b"
IDAHO DEPARTMENT OF LANDS P O BOX 670, COEUR D'ALENE, IDAHO 83814-0670
STANLEY F. HAMILTON
DIRECTOR
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Idaho Department of Fish and Game, McCall
Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, Boise
United States Coast Guard - Seattle, WA
Unites States Army Corps of Engineers - Walla Walla,
See Attached - Adjacent Landowners
FROM: W. R. Pitman, PE, Manager
Idaho Lake Protection Act
BOARD OF LAND
COMMISSIONERS
CECIL D. ANDRUS
Governor
DATE: Ap r i 1 25, 1991P� T. CENARRUSA
Secretary W State
LARRY ECHOHAWK
Attorney General
J.D. WILLIAMS
State Auditor
JERRY L. EVANS
Sup't W Public
WA Instruction
SUBJECT: NOTICE OF APPLICATION - L-65-S-386F - MAY HARDWARE, INC.
Enclosed is an application and plats requesting permission to enlarge
existing marina by 19 slips in Payette Lake.
Please submit your recommendations to me by May 25, 1991, regarding the
likely effect of the proposed encroachment upon adjacent property, lake, and
streambed value factors of navigation, fish and wildlife habitat, aquatic
life, recreation, aesthetic beauty, or water quality. If you have concerns
or are opposed to the project as proposed, please list your specific reasons
for concern or opposition and any facts or documentation to support your
position.
You should recommend alternate plans if they are economically feasible to
accomplish the purpose of the proposed encroachment. You should also
recommend any mitigation measures or special restrictions/provisions you
would like included as part of the permit if one is issued.
If you do not submit a comment, I will assume you have no objections to
the application. If you have questions concerning the application, I
suggest you contact the applicant. If the applicant cannot answer your
questions, I can be reached at 664-2171.
me
enclosures
c: Real Estate Specialist, Boise
Area Supervisor, Payette Lakes
KEEP IDAHO GREEN
PREVENT WILDFIRE
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JOINT APPLICATION FOR PERMIT
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STATE OF0IDAHO,� DEPARTMENTTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES
LANDS
The Department of the Army permit program is authorized by Section 10 of the River and Harbor Act
of the Clean water Act. These laws require permits authorizing structures and work in or affecti
• the United States and the discharge of dredged or fill material into waters of the United States,
wetlands. State permits are required under the State of Idaho, Stream Channel Protection Act (Ti
COGe) and the Idaho Lake Protection Act, Section 58-142 et. seq, Idaho Code. This application wi
of the above agencies.
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3. NAME OF APPLICANT
MAILING ADDRESS
PLEASE TYPE OR PRINT
May Hardware , Inc,
pQ Box 963
McCall. ID pl08
Area Area
PHONE Work 12.00 6 3.4 7 611.biiome _
Data of Application /25/9.1.
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4. AUTHORIZED AGENT
MAILING ADDRESS
Area
PHONE Work ( )
area
Horne ( )
S. Location where proposed activity exists or will occur.
Payette Lake Tributary of -
Name of waterway � Yam. t ,
Assessor's Desc. (Tax Number or Subdivision, Lot E Block No.)
McCall ID.
fn or near City or town
Valley ID 83638
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6. Describe the proposed activity, including description o
pile or float -supported platforms. If additional space
Describe the proposed activity in detail:' An addh
ext,nd an a
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f the type of structures. if any
is needed. use a separate sheet
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or Section 15 (Remarks).
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bescribe construction methods and equipment:
dimensional lumber.
Log docks with slip arms fabricated from
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Length of project along the stream or extension into lake.or reservoir:
Stream gradient: NA
Will materiel be placed waterwerd of ordinary high water mark?
W111 material be placed in adjacent wetlands? _ No
Type of fill material: n n n a (i.e. sand, etc.) Material Source:
(cubic yards)
Volume of material to be placed
Will excavation be required? _
no Disposal Site Location: '
Method of diverting flow, if needed:
Method of controlling turbidity:
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7. 'Preparation of drawings. One set of original
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checklistor completing the drawings.
S. Purpose and intended use:
Commerc i a 1
Describe
Public
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NT DRAW1N05 N� �AR1iER THAN 8k x li INOHES IN SIZE. See the instruction pamphlet for instructions and a
Private
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9. Proposed Starting Date M a y 91
Estimated Duration 30 days
10. If any portion of the activity is complete indicate month and year of completion
Indicate the existing work an the drawings.
11. Names, addresseS and telephone numbers of adjoining property owners, lessees, etc., whose property also adjoins th
waterway. City Of McCall
Ernie Cheney , Y
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IF OTHER THAN
APPLICANT
NAILING ADDRESS
PHONE
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Area
Work ( )
City, State,
Zip Code
Area
Home ( )
13. List other applications, approvals or certifications from other Federal, interstate, state, or local
structures, constructions, discharges, deposits, or other activities described in this application.
t sulna Qncy - Type Approval
Tdahn Bript of La0A,9
agencies for
Identification No. Date of Application Date of Approval
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14. Has any agency denied a proval for the activity described herein or for any activity directly related to the activ
described hereint YES , Q NO (If "Yes" explain) m.
IS. Remarks or additional information:
16..Apptication is hereby made for a permit or permits to authorize the activities described herein.' I certify that 1
familiar with the information contained in this application, and that to the best of my knowledge and belie both
information is true, complete, and accurate. I further certify that I possess the authority to undeetdke the prop,'
activities. l hereby grant to the agencies to which this application is made, the right to coma upon the auuvW.
described location to inspect the proposed or completed work.
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The application must be signed by the applicant. If an authorized agent is to be designated. Item 4 and the follow
information should be completed.
I hereby designate to act as my agent in matters related to this permit
application. I understand that if a Federal permit is issued,'1 must sign the permit.
1 3lgnature of Authorized—Ageny (if appficable) Signature of Applicant (if applicable)
18 theUUnitedSStates knowinglyifalsifies. thatt conceals.loracoversnup bywithin
any trick,rscheme,00rodevicedanmeterialofacvt orrmot
any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statements or representations or makes or uses any false writing or document
knowing same to contain any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be fined not more than $10,0,
or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Do not send a permit processing fee with this application. The
appropriate fee will be assessed when a permit. is iasuod.
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ATTACHMENT "E"
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PARK USE POLICY
PURPOSE; TO ESTABLISH POLICIES GOVERNING THE USE OF THE
CITY OF MCCALL'S PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES:
POLICY: NO ACTIVITY WHICH DISTURBS THE PUBLIC'S QUIET
ENJOYMENT OF ITS PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES SHALL BE
PERMITTED IN A PUBLIC PARK OR RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
EXCEPTIONS: 1. Activities to which the public will be
invited, for which tickets or goods may be sold to the
public, or where the public may be solicited in any way or
for any purpose, for which a loudspeaker or sound
amplifier will be used, including political, sectarian, or
political activity, may be conducted in a city park or
recreational facility after securing a special use permit
for the activity to be issued by the City Council after
recommendation by the
Park and Recreation Advisory Committee.
2. Food vendors will be licensed seasonally for
operation at specific locations in public
parks by the city. Vendors must be licensed for an entire
season, prior to May 1 of each year, and in numbers set by
the city. No event or short-term vendors shall be
permitted in the park. Licensing shall be addressed with
applicable standards in the City Code.
DISCUSSION:
The prohibition on commercial, political or sectarian
activities has been a city council policy since the
current administration began in 1985. At the same time,
Mill park is used for the arts and crafts fair each August
which is viewed by some as a commercial use of the park. We
have had requests to have petition signing drives,
candidate forums, and other political activities in city
parks and buildings. .
Food vending has occurred at softball tournaments and
requests for food concessions in parks have been received.
At the request of Marilyn Arp, the current policy was sent
to the park and recreation committee for review and
recommendation. Staff was asked to draft a policy for
committee consideration.