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HomeMy Public PortalAbout02-20-1996 PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RICHMOND.INDIANA.SERVING AS A BOARD IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATION OF THE RICHMOND POWER& LIGHT PLANT TUESDAY. FEBRUARY 20.1996 -- I 1 The Common Council of the City of Richmond, Indiana, serving as a Board in charge of the operation of the 2 Richmond Power & Light Plant met in regular session at 7 p.m. Tuesday, February 20, 1996, in the Council 3 Chambers in the Municipal Building in said City. Chairperson Larry Parker presided with the following members in 4 attendance: Etta Lundy, Bruce Wissel, Sarah "Sally" Hutton, Bob Dickman, Alan Stamper, Bing Welch and 5 Geneva"Gene"Allen. Howard"Jack"Elstro was absent.The following business was had to-wit: 6 7 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 5.1996 8 9 Councilmember Allen moved to approve the minutes of the previous meeting as prepared, seconded by 10 Councilmember Hutton and on a unanimous voice vote the motion was carried. 11 12 APPROVAL OF BILLS. INVESTMENTS AND TRANSFERS 13 14 Upon recommendation of the Finance Committee, Councilmember Stamper moved to approve the following bills 15 for payment,seconded by Councilmember Hutton and by unanimous voice vote the motion carried. 16 17 Bills Already Paid 18 Payroll and Deductions 227,978.25 19 20 Investments Purchased From.: 21 Cash Operating Fund 500,000.00 22 Bond Sinking Fund 23 Utility Bond Reserve Fund 24 Depreciation Reserve Fund 91,000.00 25 Insurance Reserve Fund 26 Consumer Deposit Fund 27 Cash Reserve Fund 164,730.00 28 Group Insurance Fund 29 30 Total Investments 755,730.00 31 32 33 Transfer from Cash Operating Fund to: 34 Cash Reserve Fund for Payment 35 to City in lieu of taxes 164,730.00 36 37 Transfer from Cash Operating Fund to: 38 Property&Plant 91,000.00 39 40 Transfers from Depreciation Reserve to: 41 Cash Operating Fund 42 43 Transfers from Consumer Deposit to: 44 Cash Operating Fund 45 46 Transfers from Utility Bond Reserve Fund to: 47 Bond Sinking Fund 48 49 Transfers from Cash Operating to: 50 Interest and Bond Principal 51 Bond Sinking Fund 52 Cash Reserve Fund 53 Utlity Bond Sinking Fund 54 Depreciation Reserve Fund 55 56 Insurance Reserve Fund Consumer Deposit Fund 57 58 Interest and Bond Principal 59 60 End of Month Petty Cash 61 Revenue Bonds 62 Interest Coupons Redeemed 63 Bond Coupons 64 Miscellaneous Bills Already Paid 146,531.74 65 Less EFT/Direct Deposit of Payroll (42,936.15) Total prepaid invoices 1,343,033.84 Total Bills Not Paid 874.497.91 Grand Total 2,217,531.75 RP&L Minutes Cont'd February 20, 1996 Page 2 1 REMARKS BY CHAIRPERSON 2 3 Chairperson Parker stated that last year the Board passed a resolution that only three members could attend the 4 A.P.P.A. conference. This year, he said, there appears to be more than three members interested in going to the 5 conference which will be held June 13-20 in Atlanta, Ga. Councilmember Hutton said she had read through the 6 agenda for the conference and found it pertains to everything Board members need to know. She moved to allow 7 anyone who wants to attend to do so. Councilmember Dickman said he still feels that attending the conference 8 every other year as decided last year would be sufficient, however, he said he would be aggreable to doing away 9 with the limit of three. 10 11 Councilmember Wissel asked General Manager Irving Huffman for an estimated cost per person. Huffman 12 responded that he looked at the conference as being very productive and said expenses probably would run 13 about $175 per day which would include room and food. Councilmember Wissel asked again for the estimated 14 cost and it was determined it would be about $2,500 per person. Councilmember Dickman said he felt that new 15 members should go and that those who did not go last year should go this year. He added, however,that he felt 16 eight or nine representatives are not needed at that kind of cost and if it is limited to every other year that kind of 17 takes care of it. Councilmember Dickman said he has yet to hear reports from anyone who has attended. 18 Councilmember Stamper suggested limiting it to four plus the chairman, allowing the new people to go first,then 19 the people who didn't go the year before would get second choice. He said he felt the key is to have at least half 20 the Board there in any given year. 21 22 Councilmember Allen commented that, in contrast, she felt the annual Indiana Association of Cities & Towns 23 conference is just as important to Council as the A.P.P.A. conference is to the RP & L Board members and 24 nobody goes to it. She said she went once and brought back a report which she shared but no one thinks about 25 going there. She noted that it will be held September 14-19 in Merrillville. Councilmember Lundy stated that she 26 also had attended an I.A.C.T.conference as well as A.P.P.A. and had brought back information and given reports. 27 28 Councilmember Welch said having been a previous member of the Board he found the A.P.P.A. conferences 29 valuable because you meet other officials with whom you can discuss common problems. He agreed with 30 Councilmember Stamper's suggestion. Huffman urged Board members to make their wishes known, noting there 31 will be about 2,500 people attending. Councilmember Welch seconded the motion made by Councilmember 32 Hutton to allow whoever wanted to go to do so. Councilmember Wissel commented that if this were the State 33 Legislature or the U.S. Congress this would be called a junket. He said he felt spending here is the same as 34 spending on any other issues and there should be priorities set. He added that he felt that three attending is 35 enough. Councilmember Hutton's motion was defeated on a roll call vote. 36 37 Councilmember Stamper moved to allow four members and the chairman to attend with the new council people 38 first and those who did not go the year before should get the second opportunity, second by Councilmember 39 Dickman. President Parker asked for a clarification, stating that if seven Councilmembers decide they would like 40 to go and all meet the criteria does he as President made the decision.That was agreed.The motion was passed 41 on a roll call vote of 6-2. 42 43 UNFINISHED BUSINESS 44 45 Directing his comments to Huffman, Councilmember Wissel said he was confused as to where the Board stands 46 now after receiving a letter from Huffman dated January 17 in response to Councilmember Stamper's request for 47 some budget information. He said he had understood that Huffman was going to provide the information to 48 Councilmember Stamper and anyone else who specifically requested.it. 49 50 Huffman responded that some of the information requested is very complex and requires explaining because it is 51 technical in nature. He said he would like to have"school" meetings to discuss these topics and go into detail. He 52 said the request includes the contract with IMPA and with consultants as well as information going back to 1988 53 concerning the budget. He added that a lot of this is rather difficult to collect and some is not even available 54 anymore. He repeated that he would like to have the school sessions then all the questions asked by 55 Councilmember Stamper could be answered. He said no utility makes its coal contract information available to the 56 public and Councilmember Stamper had asked for that information. He added that Board members are privileged 57 to see those figures but it can not be put out for others to see. Councilmember Wissel commented that he didn't 58 understand why coal salesmen have any different dilemma than any of the other people in the bidding situations. 59 60 Huffman responded that the reason is that there are several million dollars involved so that if any change in price 61 occurs or any special breaks it adds up to hundreds of dollars in the contract. Councilmember Wissel said he 62 encouraged the idea of the schools, but since Councilmember Stamper's background is in business and analyzing 63 company strengths, he would ask Huffman to provide him with the information he requested before the school 64 begins. Huffman responded that that information would be available at the time of the schools. Councilmember 65 Wissel it would be better to have it beforehand so as to prepare ahead of time. , RP&L Minutes Cont'd February 20, 1996 Page 3 111 1 Councilmember Stamper said he wished to clarify why he was making the request, noting that the Board 2 members have the right, according to the state statutes, to ask for any information they feel they need to 3 responsibly do their job. Secondly, he added,the rate case is coming up the end of March and it is important that 4 people know why this is coming up. He said it was mandated by the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission as part 5 of the 1992 rate case where it was found there was a subsidy with industrial clients subsidizing residential 6 customers and at that time the commission sated that the subsidy needed to be eliminated and steps were made 7 to do so.The commission also mandated that March 31 of this year it would be looked at again to make sure the 8 industrial clients are still not paying as big a subsidy and if they are it needs to be adjusted. 9 10 And, Councilmember Stamper said, since that is all mandated he would like the information he asked for because 11 it is important for him to find out things about the utility. He said he knows there are things in the numbers as far 12 as capital spending as well as administrative and general spending that seem to be quite a bit out of line.That is 13 why, he said, before the Board goes into a rate case like this he would like to have the figures in front of him and 14 have time to analyze them. He added that he has access to analyists and consultants. 15 16 Huffman said he had invited Councilmember Stamper to come to RP & L and see the copies of 1988 to current 17 filings to IURC as well as copies of the final year end balance sheet and income statement along with each year 18 budget projections from 1988 to the present. He said these are all available and he is welcome to copies. As to a 19 copy of power sales and capacity purchase agreements between RP & L and IMPA, Huffman said these are so 20 voluminous that merely to give the copies to him would make it difficult for him to understand. He said 21 Councilmember Welch was on the Board when IMPA was born and remembers the long sessions concerning 22 those contracts. He said he would be hesitant about acting on the request for copies of the current coal purchase 23 contract, coal hauling contracts and contracts for hauling fly ash away from the plant because he feels he needs 24 to protect the position of RP& L because of the attitude of the coal supplier. 25 26 Chairperson Parker stated that the information requested by Councilmember Stamper will be given to the new 27 board members, adding there will be a meeting with Huffman to discuss the issue. Councilmember Welch 28 substantiates! Huffman's statement about the information requested being available at RP & L and cautioned 29 about the coal contract, adding that many of those companies insist that the commissioners not release their 30 contract prices even in the rate cases and he cautioned Councilmember Stamper to be careful about that area, 31 stating that some things have to be kept confidential because of an agreement with the suppliers. 32 33 Councilmember Stamper moved to form a committee to work with Huffman and Michael Craycraft to prepare the 34 rate petition to be filed March 31, noting that it would help in quite a few ways but would come back with a report 35 to the entire Board. Councilmember Hutton commented all Board members will be informed on it anyhow and 36 Councilmember Welch stated that it would have to come before the Board. Huffman said RP & L has consultants 37 preparing the case and it has to be submitted to the Board before it is filed. Councilmember Dickman said he feels 38 the Board should stay informed,suggesting that the finance committee be asked to keep abreast of the issue and 39 keep the other Board members informed. The motion died because of the lack of a second. President Parker said 40 it would be taken under consideration that the finance committee will be kept informed. Councilmember Stamper 41 said he feels it is important to have information prior to coming to a meeting and to give them time as a group to 42 discuss it. 43 44 Councilmember Dickman moved that the finance committee be kept informed throughout the rate case,second by 45 Councilmember Allen and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote. 46 47 STREET LIGHT COMMITTEE REPORT 48 49 No report was given. 50 51 MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS 52 53 There was none. 54 55 REPORT BY GENERAL MANAGER 56 57 Huffman requested authorization from the Board to take bids for two transformers to be installed in the North West 58 11th Street substation in the Industrial Park area. He said there are two transformers at that station now which will 59 be moved to the east substation which is in needs of upgrading its capacity. He explained the reason for the move 60 is that those two transformers are becoming overloaded and are more than 40 years old, making their 61 dependability questionable. Councilmember Dickman moved to authorize Huffman to receive the bids,second by 62 Councilmember Welch and the motion was carried on a unanimous voice vote. 63 64 Huffman said the environmental controls technical exchange visit sponsored by the U.S. Energy Association was 65 held today with six engineers from Bulgaria and six from Masadonia. • • • RP&L Minutes Cont'd February 20, 1996 • Page 4 • • 1 He stated that the utility partnership program in cooperation with the U.S.Agency for International Development in 2 the Department of Engery was showing off some of its wares to foreign engineers. Huffman said the visitors liked 3 what they saw, noting that the standards are not quite as tight in their countries as they are here. He said RP&L is 4 recongized by the Department of Energy so it could show off its facility,adding that it is recognized throughout the 5 world as a first class utility. 6 7 Huffman asked Board members to reserve Friday, March 8 at 7:30 p.m.for an executive session bringing in one of 8 the new candidates to visit Richmond. Councilmember Stamper asked if it was just for Board members and 9 Huffman answered in the affirmative. Huffman said the LEBS project will be discussed at 7 p.m. Monday, February 10 26,at RP &L and WON will be televising it. He added that he felt it will be very informative since representatives 11 from the Department of Energy will be there. 12 13 NEW BUSINESS 14 15 There was none. 16 17 ADJOURNMENT 18 19 There being no further business, on a motion duly made,seconded and passed the meeting was 20 adjourned. 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 Larry Parker,Chairperson 28 29 30 31 32 33 • 34 ATTEST: 35 Norma Schroeder, City Clerk 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65