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MINUTES
MARCH 15, 1993
I. ROLL CALL AND CALL TO ORDER
Chair Grote called the meeting to order at 7:05pm. Committee members Killen, and Coyle
answered the roll call. Chair declared a quorum present. Also attending was Administrator Schmidt.
Director Baker arrived at 7:15pm.
II. MINUTES
Committee member Coyle moved to accept the meeting minutes from March 1, 1993 as written.
Killen seconded and the motion carried.
III. STAFF, REPORTS
A. Administrator
1. Garnett Beach contract
Administrator informed the committee that the economic analysis was complete
and on the City Attorney's desk. Total cost to the Garnett Beach Homeowners Association will be
$2,175.00 per year lease fee. Chair with consent of the committee requested Director Baker to ask Attorney
Burton when the contract would be completed.
2. Council actions
a. The motion concerning golf cart storage fees was approved as written.
b. Administrator informed the committee that council had concerns with the
Footloose motion and deferred the March 1, 1993 Parks and Recreation Minutes until the April 8, 1993
council meeting. In addition, council requested the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee to attend the
April 8, 1993 council meeting to discuss the Footloose proposal and the Parks and Recreation Master Plan.
B. Recreation Director
1. Director Baker informed committee that Idaho Power charges a $60.00 base, plus
$3.90/foot to install power and a electrician volunteered labor last year, but the cost for parts would be
about $300.00. Chair with consent of committee requested Director Baker to contact a local electrician to
discover 1993 costs. In addition, Chair requested Director Baker to contact Kris Kistner(Arts and Craft Fair
organizer) and discover if he is still willing to split the cost of power installation at Fairway Park with the
city.
2. Director informed committee that Mayor Smith had referred the Ice Breakup contest
proposal over to Attorney Burton to investigate the legalities. Chair noted that if the city was interested in
the proposal, planning would need to begin no later than September '93 and requested Director Baker to
monitor the city attorney's progress and report as necessary.
3. Chair with consent of committee deferred the parks reservation policy.
4. Director distributed a letter stating the city had been awarded a bike path grant from
the State of Idaho Transportation Department. Coyle informed the committee that to his knowledge the
money would be available October 1, 1994 and would have to be committed by September 30, 1995.
Administrator informed the committee that Attorney Burton has the title reports but has not filed
for condemnation of the Hoyle property at this time. Committee noted that in order to receive the
Transportation Department monies, the city must be pursuing ownership of the remaining two pieces of
property, the Hoyle section and the Kalman section to comply with the conversion, and urged the council to
continue aggressive actions to aquire these parcels. Chair requested Director Baker to monitor the actions on
these aquisitions and bring a progress report to each committee meeting.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
1. Club McCall Card - Coyle, Martens, & Baker
Coyle informed the committee that the task force had discussed several different methods a
card could be used to charge higher fees to nonresident recreation program users. A card could be sold to
residents for $1.50(cost) and non residents could be charged more, but how do you set the price between
nonresident and resident cards? Task force discussed investigating what a average homeowner pays into the
Recreation Program's budget in the form of property tax.
Director Baker informed committee that he had contacted Lewiston, Boise, Sandpoint, and
Coeur d'Alene and discovered the following;
1. Lewiston charges a $10.00/program nonresident user fee. The fee was directed by the council
with no basis on property tax. Proof of residency is required (utility bill).
2. Boise charges 50% more for nonresidents than residents. The fee was directed by the council
with no basis on property tax. Proof of residency is required (utility bill).
3. Sandpoint charges with a tiered structure, for a $10-20 dollar program nonresidents pay an
additional $4.00, for a $20-30 dollar program nonresidents pay an additional $6.00, for a $30-40 dollar
program nonresidents pay an additional $8.00, and so on. The fee structure was directed by the Mayor with
no basis on property tax. No proof of residency other than address listed on the sign-up sheet is required.
4. Coeur d'Alene charges $5.00 more for non resident youth and $10.00 more for non resident
adults. The fee was directed by the council with no basis on property tax. No proof of residency other than
address listed on a the sign-up sheet is required. In addition, people who live outside the city limits, but
operate or own a business in the city limits are not charged the nonresident fee.
In addition, Director informed the committee that Treasurer Henderson said that .000194 times the
value of a home equals the amount of property tax paid into the Recreation Program, for example a
$100,000 dollar home pays $19.40/per year into the Recreation Program Budget.
After discussion chair requested Director Baker to research nonresident participation in the
Recreation Program's upcoming spring soccer sessions and with consent of committee requested Director
Baker to draft a proposal for the next meeting with the following general guide lines.
1. Flat fee rather than a tiered fee.
2. Cards should be issued.
3. A time frame when cards could be purchased.
4. Show as a discount for city residents.
5. Business owners don't pay a nonresident fee.
6. A11 recreation program prices go up.
Finally, Chair Grote expressed appreciation for the research efforts put forth by the task force.
V. MASTER PLAN
Chair Grote informed the committee that the site specific list had been compiled from the old
master plan and the 1992 summer parks tours. In addition, Chair distributed a list of four park properties
which are sensitive to the community and options for these park properties(attached). Committee reviewed
the site specific list, and updated it(revised list attached). Finally, Chair set the following timetable for the
adoption of the master plan.
1. Chair will write a viewpoint column for the Star News summarizing the actions being
considered by the board for inclusion in the master plan and inviting the public to comment at the park
board's April 26, 1993 meeting.
2. Finalize the draft in May.
3. Submit final draft to Council in June, 1993.
Administrator reminded the committee that Legacy Park phase one projects such as the
sidewalk along the Eastern perimeter and the wetland enhancement fence at the riverfront property need to be
completed before moving onto other park projects. Chair acknowledged and said she would incorporate this
actions into the plan's site specific section.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
1. New Recreation Programs deferred.
VII. REPORTS ON NON -CITY PARK AND RECREATION ISSUES
A. Payette Lakes Trail System
Committee discussed current problems such as the temporary snowmobile bridge. Committee all
agreed that the county should be involved with parks in some way. Committee believes that the county at
this time has no vision or notion that is should be involved with park lands. The county should come up
with some kind of park plan including pathways and trails through the county, perhaps the county should
be thinking of park ways starting at the city's riverside property.
Committee member Killen suggested that V.A.L.U.E.D. should be the first to approach the
county.
B. Letter from chair to Idaho Department of Parks and Recreation(attached)
Committee reviewed and thanked chair for writing the letter.
VIII. NEXT MEETING
Next regular meeting scheduled for Monday, April 26, 1993 - 7:OOpm
Res [fully Submitted
Tomi Gro
Chair
Options for Fairway Park
a. keep it as softball fields
b. keep land in park system, but encourage relocation of softball fields to Riverfront through funding
other than sale of all or part of Fairway.
c. sell all but that needed for the bike path to finance relocation of softball fields and other improve-
ments to Riverfront Park
d. sell part to finance relocation of softball fields
Options for Clubhouse
a. sell as recommended by city council and use proceeds to match bike path grant/and develop
riverfront park (softball fields)
b. keep as parking for Davis Beach
c. keep and rebuild for community/recreation center
Options for volleyball court
a. leave as is
b. leave as is and build screening wall between court and adjacent restaurant
c. leave as is, but close at 5:00 p.m.
d. relocate to southern end of Legacy
e. relocate to Art Roberts
Options for Art Roberts
a. clean up and relandscape
b. relocate volleyball court from Legacy and relandscape for teen use.
Recommendations Specific to Park Sites
All options are being considered for completion by 1998:
Fairway Park
1) Leave as is and continue with projects recommended by the '88 Master Plan: restrooms, shade
trees, improved drinking fountain, landscaping barrier between park and Cal Gas.
2) Sell everything but lands necessary for bike path, relocate softball fields to riverfront property.
3) Sell portion of site but preserve enough for one public playfield/tots' playground/additional tennis
courts with bike path routed around it.
Golf Course Clubhouse Site
1) Sell site, use funds to match bike path grant, make progress on projects the board considers a
priority (board will recommend priorities after public has had opportunity to comment on this op-
tion)
2)Keep site and develop into a community center. Find another means to match bike path grant.
Davis Beach
1) Construct restroom facility.
2) Install swimming buoys.
3) Build retaining walls around the exposed roots of trees for improved safety and aesthetics.
4) Relocate some mismatched picnic tables from Legacy Park to Davis Beach
5) Assess and if necessary, make improvements necessary to comply with the Americans with
Disabilities Act.
6) Relocate docks to one side to better protect swim area
7) Define parking area, pave and mark.
Art Roberts Park
1) Replace 2 sections of dock, west of park
2) Remove (replace) existing restroom facility
3) Repair drinking fountain
4) Redesign landscaping to divide slope into tiers, each devoted to a different user:
a. street level. Landscape something like community park with hardy perennials,
benches, and low maintenance walkways to give shoppers downtown area employees, senior
citizens and the handicapped a place in the middle of town to take a break or eat a snack.
b. mid level: grade flat, re -seed lawn and put in picnic tables.
c. lower level: grade or dig back sea wall, improve beach or move volleyball court in Legacy
Park to this location.)
5) Clean lake bottom.
6) Assess and if necessary, make improvements necessary to comply with the Americans with
Disabilities Act.
7) install dock bumpers and storm drain (from'88 master plan).
8) Replace ill-conceived sprinkler system.
Mill Park
1) Replace sprinkler system (from '88 master plan)
2) Install children's playground equipment.
3) Re -plant high -maintenance garden areas that have fallen into disrepair with less demanding
ground covers and vegetation.
4) Assess and if necessary, make improvements necessary to comply with Americans with Disabili-
ties Act.
5) Expand parking.
6) Improve access at Hemlock
7) Relocate restrooms to park entrance and combine with an information kiosk.
Legacy Park
1) Volleyball Court
a. relocate volleyball court to Art Roberts Park and replace with grass and picnic tables.
b. relocate volleyball court to southeast end of park
c. leave volleyball court where it is
2) Install swim buoys.
3) Construct an observation deck over the concrete pylons on the southeast shore.
4) Construct pole fence along rim walkway to discourage traffic on bank.
5) Purchase 6 matching picnic tables and relocate mismatched existing tables to Rotary Park and
Davis Beach.
6) Install bike racks. (already in '92-'93 budget)
7) Install drinking fountain
8) Clean lake bottom
9) Improve appearance of pumphouse with shade awnings and benches.
10) Assess and if necessary, make improvements necessary to comply with Americans with Disabili-
ties Act.
11) Complete Phase I with sidewalk around eastern perimeter
Rotary Park
1) Relocate some of the mismatched picnic tables from Legacy Park to grassy area.
2) Remove large rocks from water's edge.
3) Build retaining walls around the exposed roots of trees for improved safety and aesthetics. (al-
ready in '92-'93 budget)
4) Enclose back of garbage area
5) Improve steepness of steps
6) Clean lake bottom
7) Assess and if necessary, make improvements necessary to comply with Americans with Disabili-
ties Act.
8) Safer surface for playground (already in '92-'93 budget)
Riverfront Site
1) Commission a park design to look at the following uses:
a.playfields design for multi -use: baseball, softball, soccer
b. "Noise" recreation area
c. RV park
d. open amphetheater
e. large events such as crafts fairs, outdoor expositions, concerts, etc.
f. soft winter recreation such as sledding, etc.
g. sport access to river: fishing, rafting, etc.
2) Design to comply with Americans with Disabilities Act.
3) Insist on competent, professional planning. A development of this type along the river will bring
down heavy environmental concerns, not the least of which is the heavy use of fertilizer on the
softball fields and the presence of wetlands on and near the site.
4) Comply with mitigation requirements on Phase I of Legacy Park by placing required fencing of
wetlands.
Community Park
1) Eliminate the need for city crews to mow this tiny little site by replacing grass with low growing
perennial ground cover.
Bike Paths
1. Complete aquisition of Hoyle property and railroad right of way behind City Hall (Kalman)
2. Develop or have in progress all four sections currently planned
a. Miles Standish to Legacy Park
c. Legacy via downtown to Park Street down Forest Street to Shore Lodge
b. City to Deinhart to Riverfront Park
d. Down Highway 55
3. Bike path design to emphasize:
a. Minimizing use conflicts (see Objective IX under goals and strategies)
b. Incorporating views of waterfront and natural amenities
c. Vest pocket parks and natural areas
d. At least minimum standard (Class 3) bikeways.
e. Safety and interpretive signage
4. Emphasize extention of bike path into neighborhood areas and into other areas of interest ex-
pressed by the community.
Tennis Courts. Neighborhood Parks
1) Assess sites and evaluate value to park system. Attach recommendations as addendums to master
plan.
McCall Dept. of Parks and Recreation
Tomi Grote, chair • Members: Dennis Coyle, Kathy Killen, Dean Martens, Malcolm Scott
To: Idaho Department of Parks and Recreation
Re: Comment: Ponderosa Park Master Plan
Date: March 10, 1993
I write on behalf of my board in general support of the Ponderosa Park Master Plan draft. The
main issue my committee is concerned about is the addition of a boat ramp at Lakeview Village. The
more boat ramps on Payette Lake, the more boat traffic. The impacts of boat traffic on water quality
and on the quality of experience for users of the lake is of great concern to this community. We urge
you to follow the movement currently in the legislature to create a Payette Lakes water quality
council to study issues of water quality. If this study goes forward, it should greatly influence the
choices you make.
Along the same line, committee members expressed a concern that the boat ramp would lessen
the enjoyment of the beach for non -boaters. With so little Payette Lake beachfront available to the
public, this should be a serious consideration.
My committee is greatly enthused with the plans for North Beach. This community has been
crying for such basic amenities for some time.
We are always interested in the initiatives taken to improve parks in the greater McCall area.
Continued communication between your people and ours is one of the many benefits we enjoy by
having Dennis Coyle on this committee. His knowledge of park management is a real asset to us and
his background in state parks broadens our thinking.
Thank you for your continued interest in our perspective.
cc: Mayor Larry Smith