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MINUTES
JANUARY 18, 1993
L ROLL CALL AND CALL TO ORDER
Chair Grote called the meeting to order at 7:30pm. Committee members Killen, Coyle, and Scott
answered the roll call. Chair declared the quorum present. Also attending was Director Baker.
II. MINUTES
Committee member Killen moved to accept the meeting minutes from November 16, 1992,
December 18, 1992, and January 11, 1993 as written. Coyle seconded and the motion carried.
III. REVIEW OF FINANCIAL REPORTS
Since the financial reports were not included in the agenda packet, chair allowed committee five
minutes to review, then opened the meeting up to discussion. Committee reviewed the four park request
that were approved - Rotary Park's retaining wall and sand, Legacy Park's bike rake and the Old Golf
Clubhouse appraisal.
Chair with consent of the committee asked that financial reports be given to the committee on a
quarterly basis(January, March, June, and October) and that the committee receive these reports at least
one week prior to the meeting. Staff acknowledged and will schedule for quarterly reports.
IV. STAFF REPORTS
1. No Skateboarding signs in Legacy Park
Director Baker informed committee the "No Skateboarding" signs in Legacy Park were requested
by Chief Parker due to several complaints received by the police department.
Committee agreed that they did not want to see McCall's parks become over run with"NO" signs.
In addition, the committee agreed that all park rules should be standardized and each park should have a
general information sign to allow regular enforcement.
Chair with consent of committee, deferred the park sign issue to the action portion of master
planning - sight specifics.
2. Background checks on volunteer coaches report.
Director Baker informed the committee that he had contacted the Sandpoint Recreation
Department and the Coeur d'Alene Recreation Department. The Sandpoint Recreation Department only
runs background checks on coaches that are unknown in the community and/or do not have children
enrolled in the program. The Coeur d'Alene Recreation Department runs background checks on all
volunteer coaches by having them fill out a volunteer coaches application which is turned over to the
police who conduct the background search. In addition, the City of Coeur d'Alene pits the coaches on the
city's volunteer program as to be covered by insurance. * * * * *
After discussing Coyle moved to recommend council make it mandatory for all volunteer
coaches in McCall's Park and Recreation programs have a routine criminal background check run
through the Police Department and City Recreation Director contact three personal references.
Seconded by Killen and the motion carried.
3. Report on Council Actions
a. Director informed committee that council had staff spend no city time,
equipment or money on developing a ice skating rink.
b. Director informed committee that council had approved its recommendation to
allow fundraising efforts for a playground in Mill Park to begin. Chair with
consent of committee asked Director Baker to contact Simplot -Braun, and Rake
with this information
c. Director informed committee that Scout Troop 246's Winter Carnival concession]
stand on the edge of Art Roberts was approved as written. In addition,
Director informed committee that he is working with Idaho Power to figure a
way to bill Troop 246 for the power they use.
d. Director informed committee that the Snowsculpting competition and concession
stand in Legacy Park during winter carnival was approved as written.
e. Director informed committee that the request to build a sculpture next to McCall
Mall was approved as written.
V. NEW BUSINESS
1. Golf Cart Storage Fees.
Committee member Scott informed committee that Mr. Tom Haynes was working with the Men's
Association to build another cart storage facility, Frank Brown is in charge of financing and hopes to
have monies by this summer, but at this time they have none. In addition, Scott informed the committee
that they need to think about what will happen if the current storage area is sold and the parks department
has contracts to store carts.
After discussion concerning amounts to charge for storage, the property being sold, and methods
of payment, Chair with consent of committee asked staff to contact Purple Sage Cart Storage in Caldwell
and Centennial Cart Storage in Boise and inquire as to the cost of cart storage. Chair asked member Scott
to review the director's research and recommend a fee at committees February meeting. Chair with
consent of committee deferred the cart storage issue to the next meeting.
2. Waterways Improvement Fund Grants.
Committee discussed the possibility of writing a grant requesting monies for swim buoys at
Legacy Park and/or possibly swim docks. Committee member Coyle stated that he believed the grants are
specifically for boating related projects. Chair asked Coyle to make a presentation on the merits of this
grant at the February meeting. Coyle agreed and the topic was deferred to the next meeting.
3. Recreational Vehicles Facilities Grants.
Committee agreed these grants may have some merit in creating a dump station at the future
Riverfront park site. In addition, committee discussed professionally made interpretive information signs
for the city. Chair asked Coyle to research if these grants cover dump stations so that the committee
would be prepared to request an application at the appropriate time. After discussion, committee decided
not to request staff to prepare a grant application.
VI. MASTER PLAN
Committee went over goals 1-7 and their strategies, and recommended revisions to the Chair.
Chair said she would incorporate the comments into a finished draft of the portion of the plan that
describes the committees philosophical platform. Chair asked each committee member to review the
finished draft which would be sent to them with the meeting minutes and barring any serious objection be
prepared to adopt the document at their February meeting.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
1. Building Permit Fees
Committee member Killen informed committee that she had left messages with representatives
but her phone calls had not been returned. In addition, committee member Killen stated that she read in
the newspaper that the Associated Cities is pushing for expansion of current legislation concerning
building permit fees, to include resort communities.
Committee reviewed the City of Moscow's ordinance for dedication of public parkland and
agreed the Planning and Zoning Board is dealing with this issue.
2. Beta Sigma Phi report - Killen
Committee member Killen informed the committee that she had met with Beta Sigma Phi
representatives and discovered that since they could not purchase a specific bench for Legacy Park, they
had withdrawn their offer.
3. Park Reservation Policy - Coyle and Baker
Director Baker informed the committee that although Coyle and he had scheduled time to work
on this project no advancement has been made at this time. Chair with consent of the committee deferred
the Park Reservation Policy discussion to the February meeting.
4. Sledding and snowmobiling at the city's old dumpsite - Killen
Committee member Killen informed committee that since the temporary snowmobile bridge was
not put in place this winter, snowmobile activity had dropped off and at this time there is no problem.
5. Comprehensive Plan *****
After review and discussion Killen moved to recommend council approve the comprehensive
plan as written(attached). Seconded by Coyle and the motion carried.
VIII. PAYETTE LAKES TRAIL SYSTEM REPORT
Committee member Killen informed committee the City of McCall had made the grant short list.
Committee member Coyle informed committee that Mr. John Barnes had been hired to investigate all
projects which made the short list to see which projects could be completed. The City of McCall should
know by the end of the month if monies will be made available to them in 1994.
IX. OTHER BUSINESS
Chair Grote reported that she had met with Mayor Smith to discuss a suggestion that the park
board appoint a subcommittee to study the development of the riverfront park site because the committees
agenda might be too full to allow speedy action on the issue. Grote said that she told the mayor that she
would like to see the master plan completed before placing priority on any single project. She said that
she had an aggressive schedule to complete the plan, and expected a final draft to pass the committee in
April. She told the mayor that the new master plan already addresses the committees workload by calling
for the creation of two subcommittees, one to find new revenue sources for the city's parks and one to
explore ways to make the city's recreation programs more popular. She said that she hopes the work of
both of these subcommittees will open the door to development of future park sites and at the same time
lay the foundation to assure adequate maintenance of existing park sites. She said that she told the mayor
that she takes her responsibility to manage the committees workload very seriously and pledged to do her
best to keep the committee efficient.
Committee member Killen reminded committee it still has commitments from the park bond,
which have not been completed and she feels these need to be completed before starting on another major
project.
Committee discussed the fact that with the polices and strategies phase of the mast plan
complete, the next job will be to explore site specific development and funding for maintenance and
expansion of the park system.
Committee member coyle informed committee the State Parks and Recreation Department will be
holding town meetings to find out what citizens want from the department over the next twenty five years.
In addition, Coyle informed committee that the general development plan for Ponderosa State Park is near
completion and will go to the state board on February 4, 1993. Coyle asked if the general development
plan is approved by the state board, how would the committee want it presented to the city? Committee
members agreed that they would like to meet with the City Council and the public to look at Ponderosa
State Park's general development plan, therefore gaining the broadest amount of input as possible.
X. NEXT MEETING
Next regular meeting scheduled for Monday, February 8, 1993 - 7:00pm
Respectf-uilly Submitted
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Chair:
PARKS & RECREATION
BACKGROUND
Adjacent to Payette Lake and surrounded by natural forests, the City of McCall offers a variety
of recreational opportunities. Due to its natural surroundings, outdoor activities, such as,
fishing, camping, backpacking, boating, skiing, snowmobiling and snowshoeing have become
very popular to area residents, as well as, visitors.
In addition to the above activities, the City of McCall maintains an 18 hole golf course, tennis
courts and over 15 acres of city parks and lakeshore beaches which consist of Davis Beach,
Fairway, Mill, Rotary, Art Roberts and Legacy Parks.
With an expanding recreation program, the City of McCall supports local soccer, tennis,
basketball, volleyball & baseball programs. Other non -city recreational facilities such as rodeo
de
grounds, high school playing fields and the snowmobile park south of Deinhard Lane pro
vidiversified recreational opportunities.
EXISTING POLICIES
In 1987 the McCall Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee prepared its first Park &
Recreation Facility Plan.
The committee's awarness of the impact or recreation on existing services guided them in
establishing standards, which could be used to gauge the impact of services on community
resources. The Committee stated that a plan must:
1. Reflect the true nature of the community including its socio-economic, environmental and
cultural characteristics;
2. Represent realistically attainable and desirable goals; and
3. Be acceptable to the policy makers who must use it.
In order to meet this challenge the committee reviewed existing conditions. It was determined
that the city of McCall currently had two primary elements which were the basis for a successful
recreational environment, Payette Lake and natural forested surroundings. These elements would
foster the development of three types of recreational facilities; 1) Water -based recreation, 2)
Networks, trails and recreation transportation; and 3) community recreation sites.
In addition the City needed to maintain the attractive recreation features of McCall as well as
provide a public access/open space system which would establish a means to connect recreation
areas to each other and other land use districts of McCall.
EXISTING IMPACT
Local:
In 1992, the McCall Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee was requested to update the 1987
Parks &Recreation Facility Plan. Based upon suggested arlAssociation) development
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recommended by NRPA (National Recreation
facilities for a population of 2,005 residents are adequate. But such programs as soccer &
baseball/softball do not meet NRPA guidelines• In rection, since ereational users fPom nearby Ada, Canlan's original yon
the City of McCall has been highly impacted by the re
and neighboring counties.
Regional:
Based upon 1992 estimates between 10,000 - 15,000 visitors may descend upon McCall, during
recreation season or special community
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Mountain Ski area.
to those visitors
who use Ponderosa State Park, Payette
Ponderosa State Park
Located within McCalls corporate limits, Ponderosa State Park is on a peninsula which juts into
Payette Lake. The park has approximately 1,000 acres of recreational lands that can be used
for hiking, camping, nature studies & other outdoor recreational uses.
Payette Lake
The 5,337 acre glacial Payette Lake borders the City of McCall's southern boundary. The lake
offers opportunities for sailing, fishing, swimming and water skiing.
Brundage Mountain Ski Area
Even though Brundage Mountain is located seven miles northwest of McCall and in Adams
County. It is very heavily used during the winter months. Visitors, who use this facility, usually
acquire lodging within the city limits and during their stay, visitors usually utilize other
recreational facilities in the city.
FUTURE IMPACTS
Parks
The City of McCall has 15 acres of parks for a population of 2,005. This results in 325 sq. ft.
of park lands for each resident of McCall. As the population increases, so must the existing
parks system. The City needs to identify the types of parks which will meet the needs of the
community. The parks may include but not be limited to; 1) vest pocket parks, 2) playgrounds,
3) resident/visitor parks & beaches; 4) playfields; 5) regional recreational sites; and 6) special
use areas.
RECREATION
Future recreation will be based upon how recreational expansion will be developed and funded.
Present boating activity is concentrated on Payette Lake. If recreation use increases, congestion
will be a definite concern as it limits use, creates problems of storage and maintenance facilities
and general noise, and space and visual impact. Thes a public guidelines resource.
can be established to
partnership with local, State and Federal providers,
regulate use which will be consistent with community desires.
Complimentary to the vehicle road system, designated easements for pedestrian ways,
snowmobiles, and bicycles would be ideal for summer/winter recreation and utility use. School
age children should have a safe, well designed route from their homes to the schools. The
primary system would be parallel in the open space areas of the Union Pacific Railroad Right -of -
Way, and the proposed Highway 55 bypass. When designing new or improving existing streets
sufficient space should be allocated for the development of pedestrian ways/snowmobile/bicycle
systems.
In addition, based upon NRA standards the following guidelines suggest major expansions as
determined by the population, which will be served.
Suggested Facility Development Standards As Recommended by NRPA
McCall (Public Private
�.. Facility/Use for 2,000 Pop.for 10,000 Pop. for 15.000 Pop. existing) Non City
Basketball 1 2 3 1 2
Handball 1 1 1 0 3
Tennis
4 20 30 2 3
3 1 2
Volleyball 1 2 0
Baseball 1 2 3 0
Football 1 1 1 0 1
Soccer
1 1 2 2 1
1 1 0
Golf Driving Range 1 1
1/4 Mile Track 1 1 1 0 0
Softball 1 3 5 2 1
Multiple Rec. Court - 1 1 1 3
Golf Course - 18-hole 1 1 1 1 0
Swimming Pool 1 1 2 0 1
Ice Skating 0 0
Expansion to meet local, state and federal guidelines (the American Disabilities Act) or any of
these programs, facilities or in the case of Payette Lake usage will impact the community.
Funding sources will need to expand for the user or local level.
The City of McCall's parks & recreation future should be based upon the following goal,
policies & actions.
GOAL
Provide a package of park and recreation amenities that contributes to the health and well-
being of McCall's citizens and attracts visitors to the city.
POLICIES
1. Develop a variety of community park and recreation sites.
2. Develop, maintain, improve and expand accesses and views to guarantee public access
to Payette Lake, Payette River, and natural assets.
3. Encourage use of park and recreation facilities by providing a trail network which links
park and recreation facilities.
4. Provide safe, accessible, well maintained and efficiently administered park and recreation
facilities.
5. Enhance the quality of experience for recreational user by minimizing the conflicts
between differing recreational uses.
6. Develop a partnership with local, state & federal recreation providers in order to avoid
duplication of services.
7. Promote, develop and implement year-round community recreation programs.
8. Sponsor and promote recreation programs that use role models to encourage responsible
behavior by youths.
9. Comply to standards set forth in the American Disability Act to meet the needs of the
disabled recreational users.
ACTION:
1. Develop and maintain a Parks & Recreation Master Plan.
2. Adopt regulations and ordinances to insure the quiet enjoyment of the city's parks and
recreation system by citizens & visitors.