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MINUTES
NOVEMBER 16, 1992
I. ROLL CALL AND CALL TO ORDER
Chair Killen called the meeting to order at 7:30pm. Committee members Martens, Grote, and
Coyle answered the roll call. Chair declared a quorum present. Also attending were Administrator
Schmidt, Recreation Director Baker, Mike McGee, Cathy Martin, and Laurie Simplot -Braun. Chair
congratulated Martens on his reappointment to committee for another term.
II. POSSIBLE RELOCATION OF VOLLEYBALL COURT - LEGACY PARK
Mike McGee informed the committee that he and several friends used the volleyball court at
Legacy Park about 10 times after it was installed. Mr. McGee was very impressed with the construction
but stated that the court was in need of netting or fencing to keep volleyballs from falling off the drop-off
located at the southwest corner of Legacy Park. Due to the fact that Mr. McGee used the court around
12:00 noon he never had any problem getting on the court. The only complaint Mr. McGee had was that
the sand at the current court is much to coarse and hurts player's feet. Finally, Mr. McGee stated that
although he loves the current location of the court, he would not oppose relocation as long as the new
court is installed with equal specifications(level) as the current court. He also noted that volleyball
appears to be a popular sport and that reopening the old volleyball court site at Mill Park could be justified
by the demand.
Committee members discussed the high cost of relocation (attached) and believes there are more
options to consider than relocating or building a screening wall near the McCall Mall. Members agreed
that their original directive to staff was to furnish the committee with a number of options, not just one
and expressed disappointment that the directive had not been carried out. Further discussion covered the
following topics:
1. The committee wondered whether the court could be placed farther east so the retaining wall would not
have to be built creating another drop-off like the one near the current court. Chair Killen expressed
concern that relocating the court to the proposed site would rob the park of valuable beach front. She also
noted that the proposed location would interfere with access to the dock near the site and that the
retaining wall would be an eyesore.
2. Grote said she sympathized with Mr. Findlay's problem and thought that the design problems at the
new location could be worked out, but noted that such extraordinary expenses are not budgeted for and
may require a fund raising effort by concerned parties to finance the relocation.
3. Administrator Schmidt suggested that since it is Mr. Findlay who feels it is critical to move the court,
perhaps he should help pay for relocation. At this time chair with consent of the committee tabled the
relocation until the next meeting and asked staff to contact Mr. Findlay and Bill Keating to request that
they both attend the next meeting to discuss and explore a fuller range of alternes.
Chair also asked to have anyone wishing to comment on the relocation do so in writing and drop it off at
City Hall. Chair informed the committee that she's noticed run-off erosion in Legacy Park near the -
proposed volleyball court site. Administrator Schmidt said that he would discuss the problem with Public
Works staff and report their assessment to the committee.
III. PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT MILL PARK - LAURIE SIMPLOT-BRAUN
Committee member Coyle handed out Dr. Hammersley's(playground safety expert)
reply(attached) to the design and Laurie Simplot -Braun distributed the letter from Wildwood Playgrounds
stating the company's equipment meets the 1992 U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission Standards.
Chair Killen informed the committee that she had contacted both Mr. Gillespie and the Mill Park
Condominiums. Killen said Mr. Gillespie was not going to attend the meeting but he felt it would be fun
to have the equipment and kids in Mill Park. Cathy Martin was in attendance representing Mill Park
Condos and stated that the condo owners were opposed to the installation of playground equipment due to
the following concerns.
1. Kids are attracted to the logs in the water near Mill Park and may get hurt playing on them.
2. Drop off on the West side of the park is dangerous.
3. Vandalism in Mill Park may increase if the playground equipment attracts older youth at
night.
4. Noise will increase near the condos.
5. Parking is already limited and with more people using Mill Park, the parking may bleed
over into the condo parking lot.
6. Quiet is Mill Park's biggest attraction and playground equipment may ruin this attraction.
Chair noted that she had neglected to notify anyone representing Mr. Manchester prior to the meeting but
would contact Manchester and notify him that the issue would be on the next council meeting agenda
should he wish to comment.
After discussion concerning vandalism, lighting, fencing, possible benefits to Mill Park as well as
the condos and the condo's concerns, Grote moved to recommend council approve the placement of
playground equipment in Mill Park at the location shown on the plans with the committee reviewing
final construction plans prior to installation, and when the equipment is dedicated to the city that
the city accept full responsibility and maintenance. Finally, committee recommends council create a
special account to hold monies raised. Seconded by Coyle, and the motion carried unopposed.
IV. MINUTES - OCTOBER 19, 1992
1. Council Action.
a. Drafting of a Garnett Beach agreement was assigned to city attorney.
b. Council directed administrator to contact Hoyle but the Council does not believe they
have to purchase the property to comply with the conversion.
c. Council informed administrator that the swim buoys at Legacy Park was included in
the monies raised if the Old Golf Clubhouse site is sold.
d. Administrator informed the committee that the Council would now like hold off on
selling the Old Golf Clubhouse site due to the fact the city may want to
purchase it from parks to build a water refining system on.
2. Adoption
After review and discussion Martens moved to adopt the October 19, 1992 minutes as
written. Seconded by Grote, and the motion carried.
V. FINANCIAL REPORTS
Chair informed the committee that she has requested a conference with the mayor but has not yet
received an appointment to discuss the park's budget.
VI. STAFF REPORTS
1. Administrator
a. Administrator informed the committee that he is currently working on a new housing
development called the Woodlands located near the proposed new school site,
and that a eight(8) acre area has been identified and will be recommended for
dedicated public park area.
b. Administrator informed committee that staff has been directed to construct an ice
rink on the lake.
After discussing the following concerns;
1. Why has the committee not been notified of this prior to implementation? It is the
committees understanding that park and recreation issues are supposed to come
before the committee prior to development and implementation.
2. Any time park's and recreation monies are to be spent on new developments the
Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee should have comment.
3. The budgets have been set for expenditures. How will this affect other budget
priorities?
4. Committee noted that ice skating has been the subject of repeated committee
discussion and that the reason the park and recreation committee has never asked for funding for ice
skating is because the committee concluded last year that the cost of maintaining an uncovered ice rink is
higher than the demand for it. Martens noted that the committee invested staff time to research ice
skating last year and that staff did not include Legacy Park in its recommendations(reference Park &
Recreation committee minutes, January 14, 1992). Martens cited personal experience with maintaining
ice rinks and warned that the methods Director Baker said he would use to create and maintain the ice
rink would produce an unacceptable result. Committee members wonder why all this research and
reasoning is being ignored.
Grote moved to recommend council request committee comments before authorizing expenditures
to construct an ice rink. Seconded by Martens, and the motion carried unopposed.
Following the motion, Chair Killen and member Grote expressed for the record their
disappointment that Director Baker allocated his time to assist the construction and maintenance of this
ice rink without considering the opinions of this committee and ignoring his own recommendation on the
subject. Killen and Grote felt that even though the committee has no direct authority over Baker, he still
has an obligation to seek the committees opinions and to represent those opinions in his dealings with
public officials and citizens. If that is not the case, the committee has lost its function. Martens said that
he would likely have not renewed his term had he known the committee would be lift out of the loop in
this manner.
c. Administrator informed the committee that the Police Dept. had decided to place "No
Skateboarding" signs in Legacy Park.
After committee agreed that they had not made a recommendation and Administrator Schmidt
informed them that there is not a no skateboarding ordinance in parks law, chair with consent of
committee requested Recreation Director talk with Chief Parker and Bi11 Keating to find out if there were
any complaints and why the signs were installed.
2. Recreation Director
a. Committee reviewed the Recreation Department's user hour figures and questioned why hours
were down from last year. Director informed the committee it was due to the fact that the Recreation
Department was unable to negotiate with the new owner of the bowling alley and had to cancel the
bowling program, Skyhawks Soccer Academy was canceled due to lack of participation and the adult
volleyball program had a severe drop in attendance.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
1. Donna Keithley - representative of Beta Sigma Phi who has discussed with staff a
donation of $150.
Chair asked staff to get her Mrs. Keithley's phone number and she would contact her
concerning areas of interest.
2. Volunteer Coaches Policy
After review and discussion committee requested staff remove bold print pertaining to
coaches having a win -win attitude but leave the sentence in capital letters(amended version attached). In
addition committee discussed running background checks on volunteer coaches to satisfy parental
concerns of child abuse. Chair with consent of committee requested staff to contact other cities and
develop a procedure as how to best handle obtaining background checks on volunteer coaches.
3. Parks Reservation Policy
Committee discussed holiday use, for profit use, reservation of different parks and park
parts, exclusive use of parks, and the preclusion of the general public through park reservations. Chair
with consent of the committee asked Coyle to work with staff to further develop a reservation policy.
4. Bulb Planting at Legacy Park
Grote informed committee that three(3) Valley County Master Gardeners spent eighty
five hours planting 1600 flower bulbs that were donated to the city by Hank Knowles. Martens moved to
recommend council recognize and thank Joe Zimmer, Jane Pickens, Hank Knowles and Tomi Grote
for their hard work with a letter of thanks. Seconded by Coyle, and the motion carried.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
1. Report on Toys for Tots - Battle of the Bands(attached)
Committee reviewed the event and acknowledged the success.
IX. POSSIBLE REVENUE PRODUCING PLANS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION
Killen reported that due to state legislation, impact fees cannot be implemented in areas under
200,000 in population. At current the City of Boise is the only city in the state with impact fees. Grote
asked Chair to contact representatives Wilde and Danielson and explore the option of expanding this
legislation to include resort communities. Chair Killen agreed and will do so prior to the next meeting.
X. MASTER PLAN
Committee set a special meeting date of Monday, January 11, 1993 - 4:00 pm at Grote's home to
work on the master plan. Staff to contact Jerome Mapp with the meeting date.
XL PAYETTE LAKES TRAIL SYSTEM REPORT
Killen informed committee that a grant application was being submitted to the State Department
of Transportation on behalf of the Payette Lakes Trail System and that the city staff had redrafted a
previous grant application for the City of McCall and that she would be attending the open meeting
Friday, November 20th.
XII. OTHER BUSINESS
1. Southern Idaho Timber Protection Agency Property Report - Martens
Martens informed the committee that the property was being turned over to the City but
that the land board has stated that it must be self supporting and the city will take no maintenance
responsibilities but will hold the deed. The site will include a small amphitheater, nature trails, and
museum that will concentrate on the history of timber harvesting, mining and a little agriculture. Coyle
noted that he sat on the S.I.T.P.A. board and would keep us informed of its activities.
2. Election of New Chair
After Discussion, Martens moved to recommend Grote for Chair and Coyle with
Coyle as vice chair. Seconded by Killen and the motion carried. After discussion Grote and Coyle
accepted the positions for one year.
XIII. NEXT MEETING
Monday, January 18, 1993 - 7:30 pm
Items for next agenda
1. Sledding and snowmobiling at city's old dump site. Chair will
interested parties to attend.
invite
Tomi Grot
Chair -elect
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Dennis Coyle, Park Manager
Ponderosa State Park
PO Box A
McCall, ID 83638
Dear Dennis:
Universityof Idaho
Division of Health, Physical Education,
Recreation and Dance
Physical Education Bldg.,
Moscow, Idaho 83843
208-885-7921
FAX: 208-885-5929
It is very difficult to determine if the diagram of the proposed play area
complies with the CPSC guidelines. However, I would suggest that you request a
letter from Wildwood Playgrounds certifying that the equipment meets the 1991
CPSC Public Playground Safety Guidelines. If they will not provide such a
statement then I would seek another playground manufacturer. A few general
observations that I would also like to offer are:
- Is there a fence that surrounds the play area (CPSC 4.1)?
- Is the equipment identified according to age appropriateness (CPSC 4.3)?
- Does the composite climbing structure meet the platform and access
recommendations (CPSC sect. 8)?
- Does the play area have sufficient depth of surfacing based on the height of the
play equipment (CPSC sect. 10)?
- If there is a slide component to the composite climbing structure does it meet the
recommendations on slides particularly the Exit Region (CPSC 9.1.5) and Sliding
Section of Straight Slides (CPSC 9.1.4)?
Do the swings meet the recommendations Single Axis Swings (CPSC 9.2.2) and
Tot Swings (CPSC 9.2.3)? The drawing shows 3 swings per bay, CPSC says 2 per
bay.
I could provide a more detailed review if I had better diagrams, but I hope this will
help. I have enclosed a CPSC handbook for your information. If I may be of any
further assistance please contact me at your convenience.
Charles H. Hammersley, Ph.D., CLP
Assistant Professor
The Untvers;ty of Idaho is an equal opporturrty/affirmative action employer and educations tution.
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Cathy Rake and Laurie Brawn
McCall Playground Committee
1416 Franklin Road
McCall, Idaho 83638
Dear Cathy and Laurie;
11/16/92
In response to your phone inquiry of last week. We at
WILDWOOD PLAYGROUNDS feel that the POLESTAR design we
proposed for your park site meets the intent and design
recommendations of the 1992 U.S. Consumer Product Safety
Commission as best as we can interpret the standards.
WILDWOOD is always striving to build the safest play
equipment possible. In Portland, we have an excellent repu:ation
with the Parks Department and we do about 90% of their parks. We
often work in tandem with the Parks Department finding method, •o
make designs and play equipment even safer. We also have a
similar working relationship with the Longview, WA Parks
Department, WILDWOOD is considered the standard or one of the n
two contenders for Kelso,Tacoma, and Renton, WA and Eugene, OR
I would be more than willing to address any oth - s
you might have, Please feel free to contact me.
811 East Burnside
- Suite 116
Sincerely,
Portland, Oregon 97214
503-232-3211
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DATE: 10/12/92
City of McCall, Idaho
Parks
Personal Services,
PRIOR
YEAR
ACTUAL
THIS YR
AMENDED
BUDGET
CURRENT
YEAR
ESTIMATE
NEXT YR BUDGET
ADOPTED PERCENT
BUDGET CHANGE
1n1-152.00n-41°..0n0 Salari.e, - Part Time/Temp.
101-152.000-421.000 F. I. C. A. Taxes
101-152.000-421.100 Medicare Taxes,
Personal Services;
Supplies
101-152.000-432.000 Department Supplies
Other Services and. Charges
101-152.000-442.180
101-152.000-442.190
101-152.000-452.000
101-152.000-455.000
101-•152.000-459.000
101-152.000-459.O60
101-152.nnn-459.070
101-152.000-460.000
101-152.000-46.3.090
Capital Outlay
Supplies
Appraisal of Clubhouse site
Park Maintenance Contract
Heat, Lights, and Utilities
Rental Property and Equipment
Repairs Buildings c Grounds
Repair, -Retaining wall -Rotary
Playground Sand -Rotary Park
Repairs - Automotive Equipment
Signs- Cones - Posts
Other. Services and Charges
101-152.0On-473.200
Debt. Service
Bicyle Rack -Legacy Park
Capital Outlay
101-152.000-480.000 Debt Service
Debt service
Parks
General Fund
7,1°•2 12,100
461 520
120
7,699 12,740
2,335 5,500
2,335 5,500
0 0
0 0
3,172 7,200
0 0
1,822 2,600
0 0
0 0
0 300
0 0
4,994 10,100
15,028 28,340
824,982
696,747
12,100
520
120
12,740
4,000
4,000
0
0
1,000
0
2,200
0
0
0
0
3,200
0
0
0
0
19,940
685,497
5,000 -59
310 -40
75 -38
5,385 -58
1,500 -73
1,500 -73
2,500 0
10,000 0
1,500 -79
500 0
2,600 0
500 0
500 0
300 0
500 0
18,900 87
600 0
600 0
3,000 0
3,000 0
29,385 4
918,010 32
FINAL BUDGET REPORT (EX:ENDITURE)
uATE : 10/12/92
City of McCall, Idaho
Park/Rec Capital Projects fund
narks
PRIOR
THIS YR CURRENT NEXT YR BUDGET
ADOPTED PERCENT
YEAR AMENDED YEART ESTIMATE BUDGET CHANGE
BUDGET
(Miler Services and Charges 0 •152.000 � yn� 3,OOU 0
,2-442.00 0 Professional Service:, 3,936 0 U00 0
_ G�`
Other Services and Citiarg?:, 3,936 U
- Capital Outlay p 100,000 -23
1,250 130,000 2 500 35,000 `23
320-152.000-471.050 Land - State
Section
of Way 2 15,000 335,000 3
op p 135,000
320-152.000-473.000 Laud - state Other than Bldg 1,2:..
g20_152.000_473.p00 Improvements Other. 511,110 252
540 145,000 1:',7,500 -
CaPira.. Outlay 76 145,000 138,103 514,110 255
6,4
Parks- 255
13S 103 514,110
�- 476 145,000
Park/Rec Capital Projects Find
i
1
ti
City of McCall, Idaho
PRIOR
YEAR
ACTUAL
CURRENT WAL xn
AMENDEDAMENDEDDED YEAR
THIS
ADOPTED PERCENT ESTIMATE BUDGET
CHANGE
BUDGET
Park/R.ec Capital Projects Fund
rar'ts
Intergovernmental ReVenUeS 0 0 160,000 0
320-152.000-331.000 Federal Grants 0 0 0 160,000 0
Intergovernmental Revenues0
Miscellaneous Revenues 0 0 200,000 0
320-152.000-374.000 Sale of Surplus Property 600 00 0 200,000 0
Miscellaneous Revenues 60 0 360,000 0
600
Parks
0 0 360,000 0
Park/Rec Capital Projects Fund
600
FINAL BUDGET RErnRT (EXPENDITt1RE)
DATE: 10/12/92
city o;: McCall, Idaho
G. O. Bond. Debt Service Fund
Debt Service
Debt, Service
315-780.000-480.100
315-780.000-480.110
PRIOR
THIS YR CURRENT NEXT YR BUDGET
ADOPTED PERCENT
YEAR AMENDED YEAR BUDGET CHANGE
ACTUAL. BUDGET ESTIMATE
Principal -Gen Obligation Ro:7ds 45,000
Obligation BondS 70,175
I1'(tel'PSt^( el'i C1bllg•-i1 -
Debt Service 115,17.,
Debt Service 115,175
G. O. Bond Debt, Service Fund 11`,175
i
4
50,000 50,000
66,125 66,125
11.6,125 1.16,125
116,125 116,1.25
116,12` 116,12`
55,000 10
61,625 -7
116,625 0
116,625 0
116,62`. , 0
EXPENDITURE REPORT
City of McCall, Idaho
PAGE: 20
DATE: 11/18/92
MONTH: OCTOBER 1992
FUND: 20R Recreation Fund
139.090 Recreation
ORIGINAL AwENDED y-T-D CURRENT MTH ENCUMBERED UNENCUMBERED YTD%
BUDGET BUDGET ACTUAL ACTUAL Y-T-D BALANCE BUDGET
Personal Services
411.000 Salaries - Regular
411.010 Sick Pay
411.020 Vacation Pay
41.5.000 Salaries - Part Time/Temp.
421.000 F. I. C. A. Taxes
421.100 Medicare Taxes
422.000 Employer's Retirement.
423.000 Worker's Compensation
425,000 Group Health Insurance
425.100 Group Dental Insurance
426.000 Life Insurance
Personal Services
Supplies
432.000 Department Supplies
432.010 Supplies -Nordic Skiing
432.01S Supplies -Youth Basketball
432.020 Supplies -Spring Soccer
432.025 Supplies--Baseball/Softball
C 432.045 Supplies -Summer Soccer
432.055 Supplies -Adult. Volleyball
432.060 Supplies -Other Programs
f 432.100 Photographic Supplies
432.600 Tournament Sanction Fees
432.610 Tournament Game Balls
432.620 Tournament Trophies
432.630 Tournament T-Shirts Champ. Tms
435.000 Motor Fuels and Lubricants
442.700 Coaches/Officials-Umpires
Supplies
Other Services and Charges
444.000 Advertising i< Legal Pub.
445.000 Printing and Binding
446.100 Insurance Premiums
447.000 Travel and ,fleeting
448.000 Dues -Subscriptions -Memberships
449.000 Personnel Training
451.000 Telephone and Communications
452.000 Heat, Lights, and Utilities
455.000 Rental Property and Equipment.
459.000 Repairs - Buildings & Grounds
460.000 Repairs - Automotive Equipment
Other servlcF.s lnd Charges
Recreation
20,000,00 20,000.00 1,290.94 1,290.94
100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00
250.00 250.00 0.00 0.00
8,700.00 8,700.00 444.00 444.00
1,800.n0 1,800.00 105.08 105.08
425.00 425.00 24.57 24.57
2,000.00 2,000,00 132.60 132.60
1,000,00 1,000.00 0.00 0.00
2,400.00 2,400.00 172.40 172.40
195.00 195.00 14.68 14.68
145.00 145.00 0.00 0.00
37,015.00 37,015.00 2,184.27 2,184.27
250.00 250.00 0.00 0.00
550.00 550.00 0.00 0.00
350.00 350.00 0.00 0.00
300.00 300.00 0.00 0.00
1,100.00 1,100,00 0.00 0,00
600.00 600.00 0.00 0.00
200.00 200.00 0.00 0.00
350.00 350.00 0.00 0.00
400,00 400.00 0.00 0.00
250.00 250 no 0.00 0.00
700,00 700,00 0,00 0.00
850.00 R5n n0 0.00 0.00
900,00 900.00 0.00 0.00
300,00 300.00 4.50 4.50
3,100.00 3,100.00 0.00 0.00
10,200.00 10,200.00 4.50 4.50
0.00 18,709.06 6.5
0.00 100.00 0.0
0.00 250.00 0.0
0.00 8,256.00 5.1
0.00 1,694.92 5.8
0.00 400.43 5.8
0.00 1,867.40 6.6
0.00 1,000.00 0.0
0.00 2,227.60 7.2
0.00 180.32 7.5
0.00 145.00 0.0
0.00 34,830.73 5.9
0.00 250.00 0.0
0.00 550.00 0.0
0.00 350.00 0.0
0.00 300.00 0.0
0.00 1,100.00 0.0
0.00 600.00 0.0
0.00 200.00 0.0
0.00 350.00 0.0
0.00 400.00 0.0
0.00 250.00 0.0
0.00 700.00 0.0
0.00 850.00 0.0
0.00 900.00 0.0
0.00 295.50 1.5
0.00 3,100.00 0.0
0.00 10,195.50 0.0
300.00 300.00 33.45 33.45 0,00 266.55 11.2
400.00 400.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 400.00 0.0 C
200.00 200.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 200,00 0.0
750.00 750.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 750.00 0.0
250.00 250.00 70.00 70.00 0.00 180.00 28.0
350.00 350.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 350.00 0.0
600,00 600.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 600.00 0.0
1,0nn nn 1,000.00 240.00 240.00 0.00 760.00 24.0
75,00 75.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 75.00 0.0
2,55n on 2,550.00 123.96 123.96 0.00 2,426.04 4.9
50n,00 500.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 500.00 0.0
6,975.0o 6,g75.nn 467.41 467.41 0.00 6,507.59 6.7
54.19n.nn - 54 1gn,nn - 2,6.56.18 ? 656.18 0.00 51,533.82 4.9
EXPENDITURE REPORT
City of McCall, Idaho
PAGE: 21
DATE: 11/18/92
MONTH: OCTOBER 1992
ORIGINAL AMENDED Y-T-D CURRENT MTH ENCUUBERRD UNENCUMSERF,D YTD%
BUDGET BUDGET ACTUAL ACTUAL Y-T-D BALANCE BUDGET
FUND: 208 Recreation Fund (CONT)
139.090 Recreation (CONT)
Other Services and Charg(CONT)
Recreation Fund 54,190.00
54,190.00 2,656. 1.8
2,656.18 0.00
51,533.82 4.9
City of McCall, Idaho
DATE: 11/23/92
MONTH: NOVEMBER 1992
ORIGINAL AMENDED Y-T-D CURRENT MTH
BUDGET BUDGET ACTUAL ACTUAL
BALANCE
YTD%
BUDGET
FUND: 208 Recreation Fund
139.090 Recreation
a.x s
311.088 Property Taxes _ 1988
311.089 Property ,axes - 1A89
311.090 Property Taxes - 1990
311.091 Property .axes - 1991
311.092 Property Taxes - 1992
319.000 Penalties ,4 Interest
Taxes
Charges for Services
200.00 200.00
=50,00 350.00
450.00 450.00
75.0,00 750.00
33,495.00 33,495.00
350.00 350,00
350.010 Fees - Nordic Skiing
350.020 Fees - Youth Basketball
350 030 Fees - Red Cross Classes
?50 nen Fee, - Skyhawk Soccer Camp
350.050 Fees - Spring Soccer
350 060 Fees - Summer Youth Activities
50 070 Fees - Fall
Soccer
350.080 Softball Team Entry
350.090 Softball Sponsership
350.100 Sponsor Fees -Youth Activities
350.110 Fees - Adult Volleyball
350.120 Fees - Other Programs
Charges for Service
Miscellaneous Revenues
371.000 Interest. Rcvenuc
Miscellaneous Revenues
Recreation
Recreation Fund
GRAND TOTAL
35,595.00 35,595,00
1,000.00 1,000.00
600.00 600.00
110.00 110,00
1,300.00 1,800.00
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9,non nr. 9,000.00
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200,00 200. 0
250,00 250,00
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100,00 inn nn
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55,855.00 55,855.00
55,855.00 55 R55 00
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0.00 0,00 200 no 0.0
0.00 0.00 350.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 450.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 750.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 33,495.00 0.0
0.00 0,00 350.00 0.0
0,00
0.00 35,59.5.00 0,0
0.00 0.00 1,000.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 600.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 110.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 1,800.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 1,000.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 3,800.00 0.0
10.00 0.00 590.00 1.7
0.00 0.00 9,000.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 800,00 0.0
0.00 0.00 200.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 250.00 0.0
0,00 0.00 1,000.00 0.0
0.00 0.00 20,150.00 0.0
0.61 0.00 99.39 0.6
0.61 0.00 99.39 0.6
10.61 0.00 55,344.39 0.0
10.61 0.00 55,844.39 0.0
10.61 0.00 55,844.39 0.0
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YOUTH SKIING
K-2
3-6
McCALL RECREATION PROGRAM
1992 USER HOURS
(One user hour = one user x one hour)
17 Youngsters
5 Youngsters
CLASSROOM SKI TOURS
10 Tours 216 total youngsters
YOUTH BASKETBALL 5TH & 6TH GRADE
54 Youngsters - 6 teams 10 games
3 nights of clinics
9 volunteer coaches
SPRING SOCCER 4TH - 6TH GRADE
60 Youngsters - 6 teams 12 games
2 nights of clinics
YOUTH BASEBALUSOFTBALL
12 & Under Girls Junior Olympic Softball
36 Youngsters - 2 teams 13 sessions
6 Volunteer Coaches
15 & Under Girls Junior Olympic Softball
17 Youngsters 1 team 11 sessions
2 Volunteer Coaches
Minor League Hardball(8-10)
45 Youngsters 3 teams 13 sessions
6 Volunteer Coaches
Major League Hardball(11-13yrs)
58 Youngsters 3 teams 13 sessions
6 Volunteer Coaches
Bantam League Hardball(14-15yrs)
18 Youngsters 1 team
2 Volunteer Coaches
PeeWee T-Ball(6-8yrs)
45 Youngsters 5 teams 12 sessions
Adult Softball League
60 Adults 5 teams 8 games
SUMMER SOCCER
PeeWee Soccer(6-7yrs)
50 Youngsters 5 teams 8 games
4 days of clinic
Junior Soccer(8-9yrs)
40 Youngsters 4 teams 8 games
4 days of clinic
Midget Soccer(10-13yrs)
50 Youngsters 5 teams 8 games
4 days of clinic
170 user hours
50 user hours
648 user hours
702 user hours
117 user hours
840 user hours
468 user hours
78 user hours
187 user hours
22 user hours
585 user hours
78 user hours
754 user hours
78 user hours
270 user hours
30 user hours
540 user hours
480 user hours
600 user hours
480 user hours
600 user hours
OUTDOOR BASKETBALL(10-12YRS)
35 Youngsters 10 sessions 350 user hours
FALL SOCCER
Junior Soccer(3rd-4th graders)
37 Youngsters 2 clinics 8 games 370 user hours
Midget Soccer(5th-6th graders)
46 Youngsters 2 clinics 8 games 460 user hours
ADULT DROP IN BASKETBALL
Aprox. 40, 2 hour sessions with 10-20 participants 1200 user hours
ADULT DROP IN VOLLEYBALL
15. 2 hour sessions with 8-12 participants 300 user hours
RED CROSS 1ST AID COURSES
2 Courses 9 People 72 user hours
8074 total youth user hours
2455 total adult user hours
10,529 total user hours(not including softball tournaments)
1990/91 -- 11,966 user hours
1989/90 -- 9,927 user hours
ADULT SLOWPITCH SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS
10 Total tournaments scheduled. 4 canceled
52 total teams
45 of 52 teams traveled over 75 miles. one way to participate.
Over 700 visiting(overnight) players, coaches, and umpires.
PROGRAMS REC. DEPT. WAS INVOLVED IN, HELPED ORGANIZE, OR HELPED SUPERVISE
PAYETTE LAKES SKI MARATHON - RACE SECRETARY
1DAHO B OATING SAFETY COURSES - DIRECTOR IS A CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR
ADULT SOCCER DROP IN SESSIONS
ADULT DROP IN ULTIMATE FRIZBEE
ADULT CROSS COUNTRY SKI LESSONS
FISHING CLINICS AND COURSES
YOUTH SWIM LESSONS
YOUTH GOLF LESSONS - PROVIDED BY CITY COURSE FREE OF CHARGE
PAYETTE LAKES SKI CLUB FUND RAISERS
McCALL RECREATION PROGRAM
VOLUNTEER COACHES
POLICY
Dear Coach,
The McCall Recreation Program would like to thank you for volunteering
to coach a youth sports program. Your involvement is very important to the
success of all youth sports programs, whether you are coaching Baseball,
Basketball, or Soccer. Many of ybu are new at coaching youth teams and
would like to take a moment to tell you the basic philosophy of coaching
youngsters.
Sports and competition teach our children many things that will be
retained throughout their adult lives such as, fair play, cooperation, sharing,
democratic principles, good sportsmanship and leadership. Unfortunately, an
inappropriate emphasis is often placed on winning...sometimes at any cost. The
losers in this case are the players, the children for whom the potential outcome
of sports participation is the greatest. The youth sports coach can play an
influential role in steering the emphasis of youth sports competition from an
unhealthy win -at -all cost posture to a more healthy approach, which encourages
participation by all, giving of one's best efforts, development of skills and taking
pleasure in the joy that sports of all types have to offer.
Sometimes coaching youth sports will be frustrating, heartbreaking, and
discouraging, especially if your team never wins a game. Even if you win, you
may be blessed with a group of smart alecks whom you just can't control. Some
days everything will go just right, and on other days nothing goes right. That's
the bad news. Yet, coaching can be worthwhile if you go into it with the right
outlook. Sure it's great to win, but not everyone can. Teaching kids how to lose
on occasion can be one of the greatest opportunities for teaching kids about life.
IF YOU THINK WINNING IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS -- MAYBE
YOU SHOULD VOLUNTEER FOR SOMETHING ELSE. In the last several
years an attitude that winning is the only thing has crept into youth sports. I am
telling you now that the purpose of youth sports is to instill those attitudes and
characteristics that will help kids become better adjusted adults in the years
ahead.
In closing, I would like to thank you for volunteering and hope you enjoy
the experience. Just try your best and I'm sure I will be pleased with your
performance as a coach. Remember, your the role model for a group of very
special people, our children.
Sincerely, Craig Baker - Recreation Director
Memo 10-14-92
To: Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
From: Craig Baker - Recreation Director
Re: Toys for Tots fund raiser in Mill Park
BATTLE OF THE BANDS
TOYS FOR TOTS FUND RAISER
HELD SEPTEMBER 6, 1992
A memo from the McCall Parks Department stated, " There was no
damage done to Mill Park by the Toys for Tots events. All structures and trash
were removed from the Park." Park deposit was refunded.
A telephone conversation with Mr. Ron White informed me that
approximately 800 - 1200 people attended the fund raiser. A total of
approximately $4500.00 was taken in ticket and food sales. After expenses the
fund raiser made approximately $500.00 dollars, plus purchased the booths,
banners, and posters that can be used again next year. Mr. White figures with
more time to find a sponsor willing to donate a grand prize for the raffle, next
years event is expected to make a minimum of $3000.00 dollars.
To: Mayor Smith, members of City Council
From: Tomi Grote, chair -elect
McCall Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
Re: Ice Skating
Date: November 23, 1992
Apparently due to the close proximity of the November meeting of my committee and the Tues-
day meeting of the council, this month's actions of the parks and recreation committee are not on the
council's agenda.
While I'm not particularly concerned about that, since my committee will not meet again until
January, there is one motion we made that I think does deserve the council's immediate attention. I
petition you to include this letter in your correspondence agenda Tuesday night. It concerns this
committee's reaction to being informed by Administrator Schmidt that city staff has been directed to
install an ice skating rink at Legacy Park. I submit to you the pertinent section from the park
committee's minutes under Section VI Staff Reports:
b. Administrator informed committee that staff has been directed to construct an ice rink on the lake.
After discussing the following concerns:
1. Why has the committee not been notified of this prior to implementation? It is the committee's
understanding that park and recreation issues are supposed to come before the committee prior to
development and implementation.
2. Any time park and recreation monies are to be spent on new developments the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Committee should have comment.
3. The budgets have been set for expenditures. How will this affect other budget priorities?
4. Committee noted that ice skating has been the subject of repeated committee discussion and that the
reason the park and recreation committee has never asked for funding for ice skating is because the
committee concluded last year that the cost of maintaining an uncovered ice rink is higher than the
demand for it. Martens noted that the committee invested staff time to research ice skating last year
and that staff did not include Legacy Park in its recommendations (reference Park & Recreation
committee minutes, January 14, 1992). Martens cited personal experience with maintaining ice rinks
and warned that the methods Director Baker said he would use to create and maintain the ice rink would
produce an unacceptable result. Committee members wonder why all this research and reasoning is
being ignored.
Grote moved to recommend council request committee comments before authorizing expendi-
tures to construct an ice rink. Seconded by Martens and the motion carried, unopposed.
Whether or not to invest in a city -run ice skating program has been extensively discussed by this
committee and until now the council has agreed with our conclusions. I have discussed the difficulty
of maintaining a useable ice skating surface on the lake with several lakefront residents who have
attempted it on their own. I would urge the mayor and council to conduct similar research before
opening the door to what may end up being a black hole. I have serious doubts that the recreation
department can maintain a useable ice skating surface for any length of time without the expenditure
of a lot more funds than it appears they anticipate. This is a crap shoot funded by tax dollars. It may
work, but if it doesn't, you will have spent money to condition a rink that did not get enough use to
justify the expense.
While the council is well within its rights to disagree with the advice of this committee, the
committee should at least be given the courtesy of offering that advice in the first place. In this case,
it has not been given that courtesy. This committee has long been enthusiastic about adding ice
skating to the list of recreation department offerings. Our objection to this initiative is to the
backdoor way it is being done.
If the council allows this arbitrary circumventing of procedure to stand, I can assure you that this
committee will conclude that it is toothless. Dedicated citizens do not waste their time serving on
toothless committees.
tfully submitted.
McCall Recreation Program
P.O. Box 1065
McCall Id. 83638
Ph. 208-634-3006
Fax. 208-634-7142
To: Bud Schmidt, Administrator
From: Craig Baker, Recreation Director
Date: November 11, 1992
Subject: Mayor's Meeting 11-12-92
I am writing to let you know that I will not be attending the Mayor's Meeting tomorrow,
November 12,1992. I have had some unexpected out of town relatives show up and I will be out of
McCall most of the day Thursday. I will have no problem making up Thursday's missed hours this
Saturday or Sunday, especially since I worked four and a half hours today, before I figured out it is
Veterans day.
I have no problems with the Recreation Program at this time. John Larson is still pushing for the
city to provide a ice skating rink at Legacy Park this winter. In fact, Mr. Larson has acquired 10, 32 foot
logs from Brock Gould to create a break water in front of the park. I do however have several concerns.
1. How will the logs be hooked together?
2. Who will install the logs(boat)?
3. Who will move the snow off the ice with a snow blower or 4-wheeler?
4. Who will pump water on the ice after the snow has been removed?
5. Who will be responsible for checking the thickness of the ice for safety reasons?
6. Who will be responsible for putting up thin ice signage?
7. Does the city have thin ice signs?
As you can see there are many unanswered questions and numerous maintenance chores to keeping a ice
rink available to the public. However, I also feel that a good sized ice rink would be well used and is a
natural winter activity for an area like McCall. I would be willing to check the ice for safety, pump the
water onto the rink with the Recreation Department's ballfield pump, and put out "Skate at Own Risk" &
"Thin Ice" signs when appropriate. As for installation/removal of logs, and day to day maintenance, I do
not have the necessary equipment(boat, 4-wheeler, snowblower) for the job. If the necessary equipment
was provided, the Recreation Program would be willing to take on the day to day maintenance.
December 30, 1991
TO: BUD
FROM: CRAIG BAKER
RE: ICE SKATING RINK
I have contacted the Billings Montana Parks and Recreation
Department concerning ice skating rinks in public parks. The Parks
Director was very informative in the following areas.
1. INITIAL PREP.
A. As snow falls in early december it is pushed off the grass and is
used to build a barrier around the chosen rink site. The barrier
acts as a cushion for out of control skaters and keeps motor
vehicles, skiers, snowmobiles, ect. off the ice.
B. The ground needs to be kept snow free until it freezes/frosts to
a depth of 6-10 inches.
C. At the first cold snap in early January, the rink site is
flooded with a large volume of water -- usually from a fire hose.
2. MAINTENANCE
A. At each snowfall the snow is plowed off the rink and added to
surrounding snow barrier.
B. The rink is reflooded with a thin layer of water.
3. SUPERVISION.
Several years ago each city rink had a warming but and
personnel to supervise, due to budget cuts, huts are no longer open
and rinks are on "ski at own risk" basis. The City attempted to
leave huts open for unsupervised use, but had major problems with
vandalism.
POSSIBLE LOCATIONS FOR McCALL
1. McCALL GOLF COURSE DRIVING RANGE.
Due to delicacy of short cut grass, I would not recommend using a
fairway.
Clubhouse as hut.
Snow removal - John Deer tractor.
Water Source - ?
2. FAIRWAY PARK "B" FIELD(no hut)
Snow removal - John Deer tractor
Public works loader
Water Source - Fire hydrant at North East end of Park.
3. SAMPSON TRAIL OLD DUMP SITE(no hut).
Snow removal - Public works loader.
Water source - ? (no visible hydrant near site).
Levelness may be questionable.
4. FIELD BEHIND OLD SMOKEJUMPER BASE.
Snow removal - Public works loader.
Permission and water source have not been investigated.
5. IN FUTURE YEARS - IF BUILT, GOLFCOURSE IRRIGATION POND MAY BE USED.
CREATION AND MAINTENANCE
After investigating possible sites I feel Fairway Park would be the
most realist place to attempt the first creation of a public ice skating
rink in McCall. Fairway Park's grass is long and hardy, a fire hydrant
is very close and Golf course equipment is near by. Currently, the
Recreation Program has no specific money budgeted for the maintenance or
creation of a ice skating rink. However, I do believe that through a
cooperative effort involving:
a. Public Works Department - initial snow removal
b. Fire Department - initial flooding.
c. Golf Course Staff - split on going snow removal w/rec dept.
d. Recreation department - snow removal w/golf course or public
works equipment and possible follow-up flooding.
a public rink could be developed at a acceptable man hour/department
cost. If this project is attempted, I would be willing to oversee the
creation/design of the rink, provide benches, garbage cans and personnel
to empty them(myself).