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MINUTES
7-20-92
I. ROLL CALL AND CALL TO ORDER
Chair Killen called the meeting to order at
7:34p.m. Committee members Coyle, and Grote answered
the roll call. Chair Killen declared a quorum present.
Also attending were Recreation Director Baker, Dorrell
Larson, and Mr. & Mrs. Bermansolo.
II. GARNETT BEACH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION-DORRELL LARSON
Attached.
Mr. Larson informed the committee that it is the
desire of the association to keep the integrity of the
neighborhood the same. Mr. Larson also went on to talk
about the Dewy Davis Street easement made during the
early 1900's, and how he does not believe the city has a
right to build on the street right of way because if
anything major is done the property will go back to the
adjacent property owners.
Committee discussed the following options;
1. Amortizing over a period of time(10 years) then the
city would own the 10 year privately built dock.
2. Putting the dock out to bid every year.
3. Letting the association build the dock and have to
renegotiate use every 10 years.
4. Letting the association
dock with perpetual use until
better to do with the property.
5. Does the city really have
Dewy Deed easement?
6. No dock permitted.
build the private/public
the city finds something
a right to build - the
After discussion Grote moved to recommend to
council that it direct city legal and administrative
staff to study the Garnett Beach Homeowners
Association's proposal, the Dewy Davis Deed limitations,
the Swanson's current position on their dock location
and the context of the Parks and recreation minutes and
comment on the legal and precedent setting
ramifications. Coyle seconded and the motion carried.
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III. MINUTES, JUNE 17, 1992 - PARK INSPECTION
After committee reviewed the Park Inspection
Meeting Minutes, Coyle moved to recommend council direct
the following improvements and studies concerning Davis
Beach during the remainder of the 1992 season.
1. Add additional sand to the beach and specifically
cover the exposed roots on the North end of the beach.
2. Install restroom facilities with drinking water in
the future, for now, at the least, continue the
portable toilet service.
3. Direct the Legal and Administrative staff to
research and develop a legal opinion on the city's
Davis Beach private/public dock rights.
4. Clean up the large debris such as the barrel full of
cement and the tree stumps.
Grote seconded and the motion carried.
IV. MINUTES, JULY 6, 1992 - FOOTLOOSE.
After review of minutes and the council's actions
the minutes were approved.
V. TOYS FOR TOTS, BATTLE OF THE BANDS IN MILL PARK -
RON WHITE - ATTACHED.
Committee carefully reviewed and discussed Mr.
White's written plan(attached) and noted the chair's
disappointment in Mr. white not being present to make a
presentation. Next, committee reviewed their recent
Footloose recommendation and discussed the similarities.
Finally, Coyle moved to recommend council issue a
special use permit for the Battle of the Bands after the
following conditions have been addressed;
1. No vehicles will be allowed into Mill Park and
permission of the landowner to the East(Manchester) will
need to be obtained for park access.
2. A11 adjacent landowners be contacted in advance of
council approval.
3. A written parking plan, alcohol plan, and crowd
control plan be approved by Police Chief Parker through
a memo to Administrator.
4. A minimum of six(6) portable toilets be provided.
5. Trash will not be evident at any time.
6. Mill Park will be returned to its original or better
condition.
7. Mr. Gillespie is to be notified prior to Council
approval.
8. A standard park reservation fee of $150.00/day and
$150.00 refundable deposit is paid.
9. Booth numbers be limited to seven(7) booths as shown
on the plan map.
Grote seconded, and the motion carried.
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AMENDMENT: Date change at petitioner request to
9-6-92 - Labor Day Weekend. Phone vote taken: unanimous
agreement on recommendation to permit usage. Some
concerns expressed about precedent of allowing park to
go private on holiday weekend. However, park will
remain open to public with no admittance charge. money
raised through donations and sale of food and drink
items. Grote, Coyle, Scott & Killen surveyed - Martens
out of town.
VI. FINANCIAL REPORTS - ATTACHED
Committee discussed why only 33% of the parks
salaries have been spent and the summer is nearly over.
How many personnel hours will be given for park
maintenance?
Committee was concerned with there only being
$5,000 dedicated for part time personnel salaries in the
Recreation Department. Recreation Director informed
committee that he had requested $3,700 in additional
monies for the 1993 season. Committee felt this was not
adequate.
After discussion of above Grote moved to recommend
council direct the Parks and Recreation Committee to
review the 1992 proposed budget prior to presentation to
council. Coyle seconded and the motion carried.
VII. STAFF REPORTS
1. Administrator report - Attached
2. Recreation Director
a. Skyhawk Soccer Academy has been canceled
due to a lack of participation.
b. Recreation Department will be working on a
Sand Sculpting contest to be held at the new park in
August.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
1. Larry Stevens - Eagle Scout Project
Staff informed committee Mr. Stevens had been
contacted and he said he was still working on the paper
work involving the Boy Scouts of America.
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IX. NEW BUSINESS
a. Net Pens
Grote moved to recommend council find a way to
repair/replace the stripping along the edges of the Net*******
Pen Docks due to the danger the disrepair is creating.
Seconded by Coyle and the motion carried.
b. Dock Leases along new park way.
Coyle moved to recommend council direct Legal
and Administrative staff to prepare a report on the
status of the dock building leases along the park way. *******
c. Map of City Parks.
Coyle moved to recommend council direct staff
to look into the feasibility of developing a city map of
public parks which contains a list of park rules to be
placed in the Star News Visitors Guide. Grote
abstained, Chair seconded and the motion carried.
d. Legacy Park Tour
Coyle moved to recommend council find a way to
finance and incorporate the following improvement
projects at Legacy Park as soon as possible during this
season;
1. Place bike racks on pathway directly behind
restrooms.
2. Install a volleyball court south of restrooms.
3. Remove the rocks and cement chunks along beach
in water and on edge of water near pump station and
replace with sand to connect the two beach areas.
4. Move the ornamental rocks over to the edge of
the service road North and West of the pump station.
5. Install floats and cables to mark beach area as
a swim only area.
6. Install a bollard at the north end of the park
to keep vehicles out.
7. Move the logs at the South end of the park over
as far as possible and legal to define the city's
property line and service/emergency entrance into the
South end of the park.
8. Make the Sportsman's Bar and Grill screen or
remove their dumpster.
Grote Seconded, and the motion carried.
X. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Bike Path in front of Marina.
The committee is concerned with vehicles being
parked on the bike path and a lack of screening of the
Marina dumpster.
b. Master Plan.
Staff handed out suggested goals for each
objective statement(attached), committee to review and
make 44ditions at the next meeting.
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XI. NEXT MEETING
Next regular meeting scheduled for August 18, at
7:30pm in the Council Chamber.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
At 10:45pm, Grote moved to adjourn. Coyle seconded
and the motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted
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Kathy Killen,
Chair
Garnet Beach Home Owners Association
Proposal for Beach Improvements
Proposed to the City of McCall
Parks and _Recreation Advisory Committee
July 20, 1992
The first and foremost objective of the Garnet Beach Home
Owners Association is to keep any improvements to the area
in harmony with the atmosphere of the Garnet Street
neighborhood. One walk down the street will show how rustic
and close to its natural state the area is. A sketch of the
area shows that there are approximately 18 ponderosa pine
trees, all are located within the right of way on Garnet
Street. In view of the natural beauty of the area, the
beach improvements should be simple, basic, and create
recreational utility for the neighborhood and public.
Another objective of the association is to meet the
restrictions in the street easement granted by the Dewey
Davis Estate.
Enclosed is a sketch which outlines the proposed
improvements to the Garnet Beach area. The improvements
will be done so as to protect the environment and prevent
erosion. We also will work closely with the City of McCall,
Parks and Recreation and the Idaho Department of Public
Lands to make sure we meet given requirements.
The Garnet Beach Home Owners Association proposes:
1. Clear the beach of vegetation, up to 10 feet above
the high water mark. The 10 feet mark has been studied and
identified as the best point to prevent erosion. As the
surface slope increases a cover should be maintained to
prevent erosion on the higher ground. The association will
also clear the beach of any debris and maintain a clean,
healthy beach front. The association will also keep the
vegetation on the higher slope cut back and in good
condition.
2. Currently, the path to the beach is steep and not
very easy to negotiate. The association will improve the
path using railroad ties(or similar material) to make steps
going to the beach so access is safer and also to prevent
erosion.
3. The association proposes placing a dock on the beach
front 10 feet from the southern most boarder of the right of
way(refer to enclosed sketch). The dock will consist of
three standard lengths, each approximately 20 to 25 feet.
The construction will meet the requirements of the Idaho
Department of Lands for docks and any other requirements
placed by the City of McCa11. We will also meet liability
insurance requirements and build a safe dock. The dock can
be used by the public, but only the association members can
moor their boats to the structure. The expense of building
and maintaining the dock will be the responsibility of the
association.
The objective of the Garnet Beach Home Owners Association is
to gain more utility for the neighborhood and the public.
We look forward to working with the City of McCall to
provide a useful amenity to beautify the existing area.
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