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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
JANUARY 24,1994
I. ROLL CALL AND CALL TO ORDER
Chair Grote called the meeting to order at 5:40pm. Committee members Killen, and Ware answered the roll call.
Chair declared a quorum present. Also attending was Director Baker.
H. PARKS AND RECREATION SUBCOMMITTEES.
Director informed chair that the last sentence of the motion needed to be removed because city code does not allow
city employees to volunteer time for any job associated with their department. Committee agreed to remove the last sentence
of the motion.
Committee discussed how large the task force should be and all agreed it should have about ten members. Committee
felt that with ten members baseball, softball, soccer, basketball, adult programs, and school relations could all be well
represented by having a cross section of members who are involved with each season. Committee felt the meetings would be
the most productive with about ten active members but realizes that these meeting will be public meetings with a posted
agenda and anyone who wishes to attend can. Committee felt that Mr. Ware would be a very capable chair and the meetings
would be conducted in a orderly fashion.
Committee reviewed lists of proposed task force members provided by Director Baker and member Ware, and
agreed on the following slate of nine possible members.
Icon Bowker Rich Primmer Lola Elliot
Doug Sprague Jim Neal Bob Thachery
Ralph Haus Ralph King Teresa Bixby
After discussion Killen moved to recommend council approve the creation of a Recreation Task Force as * * * * * * * 01
deseinbed in the attached proposal and approve the above slate of nine members for the summer recreation task force.
Ware seconded and the motion carried.
M. GARNETT BEACH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CONTRACT{ATTACHMENT}.
Committee reviewed the Department of Lands agreement and found following question and discrepancies.
*Killen stated the committee has never seen a "T" at the end of the dock before. The dock the committee
recommended approval of was comprised of three, twenty foot sections.
*Grote stated the yearly fee was based on the number of slips that would be used and would like to know if the "T"
will create additional slips. if the "T" creates more slips, should the yearly fee he raised?
Committee felt that it could not make a recommendation until these question are answered.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS
Killen informed the committee that she felt there was to much duplication in handing out attachments with the
agenda and then again with the meeting minutes. Committee agreed and asked Director to include Meeting minute
attachments on copies going to city council and vault books but not on copies going to committee members.
Killen informed committee that the bike path grant may have gone to the next step. Director agreed to research and
report on the Idaho Department of Transportation grant at the nest regular meeting.
V. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the committee is scheduled for February 28th, at 7:00pm at City Hall.
Sincerely,
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Chair.
McCall Dept. of Parks and Recreation
Tomi Grote, chair • Members: Dennis Coyle, Kathy Killen, fiat Ware, Gary Vim Korneu
Proposal to improve community confidence in
management of the city's recreation programs
Background: Last October, the McCall City Council held a public hearing to take citizen comment on the management
of the city's recreation programs. The hearing was in response to a petition presented to the Park and Recreation Advi-
sory committee which cited several points of discontent with management of city recreation programs (attached). Much
of the testimony at the hearing concerned the city's youth softball program, which is the largest and fastest growing of
the city's recreation programs. Speakers complained principally of:
• bad or no communication of scheduling changes to parents and volunteers.
• procurement of additional equipment after the season started, endangering the safety of players until the
necessary equipment arrived.
• poor support of and insufficient expressions of gratitude to volunteer coaches and team sponsors for their
efforts and poor organization of volunteer coach recruitment.
• indifference and inaction on the part of the city adminstrator when representatives of the petitioners
personally met with him twice about these problems.
The council took no action following the hearing. It chose to adopt the suggestion of Park and Recreation Advisory Chair
Tomi Grote that this issue be taken up by the three -member recreation subcommittee called for in the Park and Rec
master plan (the preliminary draft was sent to the council last April. The final draft will be sent to the new council,
probably in March)
Substance of Committee Discussion: The content of the October public hearing has been the subject of committee
discussion in many meetings since October. After a lengthy discussion of this topic in our meeting of Monday, January
10, 1994, Chair Grote noted that the problems require two different kinds of solutions, one to speed solutions of the
immediate problems and one to deal with the long term. The committee concluded that a task force is a better vehicle to
make progress on today's problems because the membership can be large. The more people involved in the solutions, the
better. But a task force is too large and unwieldy to take on the long term need noted in the Master Plan, which is for a
small body to advise the board on recreation issues. That's where the subcommittee is more appropriate. Two task forces
are appropriate because the issues associated with ice skating and cross country skiing are very different from the issues
associated with baseball and soccer. The committee feels that two groups, selected for their involvement in specific
seasonal sports, will be more efficient and stay more focused than one group that tries to tackle the spectrum.
Recommended Action: the Park and Rrecreation Advisory Committee recommends that the council form two
task forces chaired by park board committee member Jim Ware —one for winter recreation issues and one for
summer —to take on the immediate concerns voiced in the public hearing. Each task force will agree to a deadline
to report their conclusions to the park board, who will in turn discuss and recommend specific actions to the city
council. Upon delivery of their recommendations, the task forces will dissolve and the park board will recommend
one member from each group to serve on a permanent subcommittee on recreation issues. Recreation Director
Baker will serve as staff to the task forces, but will only be obligated to attend the meetings and write the minutes.
The specific areas of the recreation programs the task forces will be asked to address are these:
• program scheduling and promotion
• equipment needs and procurement schedules
• playing field conditions and additional site needs
• care and feeding of volunteers and sponsors, improvements in communication with coaches, parents
and participants
• a structure for efficient management of volunteer groups to assist in the management of recreation
programs
• making fees and other fund raising techniques pay a larger portion of recreation program expenses
• program additions, expansions and eliminations and the means by which they will be funded
The specific areas of the recreation programs the task forces will not address are these:
• evaluations of recreation staff
Attached to this motion is a list of names the board nominates to sit on the summer task force. A slate of nominees
for the winter task force will bedrafted in June.
January 21, 1994
TO: Craig Baker
FROM: Bud Schmidt
RE: Committee issues
1. On January 13, the McCall City Council asked the Park and
Recreation Advisory Committee to review the Department of Lands
application submitted by the Garnet Beach Homeowners Association
to ensure that the plan submitted to the department conforms with
the proposal previously approved by the Committee.
I have attached a copy of the IDOL application and ask that
you submit this to the committee for review and recommendation.
I will write to IDOL requesting additional time to respond to
this request. The Committee should recommend action to the -
Council and following the Council'•s action on that
recommendation, I will forward the City's position on the matter
to IDOL.
2. On January 13, the Council also appointed Gary VanKomen to
serve on the Park and Recreation Committee. Please include him
on your committee list.
Any questions, call me.
MEMORANDUM
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DATE: December 21, 1993
Tdaho Department of Fish and Game, McCall & Boise
Tcdaho Department: of Health and Qe1fare-PEQ, Boise
Tdahu Department cif Water Resource5,' Boise
Idaho Department of Parks & Recreation, McCall
l'nites States Army Corps of Engineers, Boise (G. Martinez)
Valley County Planning R 7.onin
Valley County Commissioners, Cascade
City of McCall
1laren Newman
Bill MulVailia
FROM: W. R. Pitman, PE, Adminisl rut
Jdahu Lake Protection Act:
SUBJECT: `OTTCE OP APPLICATION - t.-Es:,-S-',f: , - GARNET BEACH HOA
Enclosed is an application and plats requestintt Permission 10
community clock on Payette Lake.
Please submit your recommendations to me by January 27, 1994, regarding
I he likely effect. of the proposed encroachment upon adjacent propert. ,
lake, and streambeed value factors of navigation, fish and wildlife habitat, aquatic- life, recreation, aesthetic beauty, or water quality.
1'f you have concerns or are opposed to the project: as proposed, please
list youC specific leason5 for CuocelIt ut opposition and any facts ur
documentation to suppor'I your posi l iuu.
Yon should tec:ommend alternate plans if .they arcs economically feasible
to accomplish I he purpose of the proposed encroachment. You should also
recommend any mitigation measures or special restrictions/provisions you
would like induced as part of the permit if one is issued.
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COMAUSGIONERS
CECIL D. ANDRUS
Govemor
PETE T. CENARRUS
Secretary of State
LARRY ECHOHAWF
Attorney Generai
J.O. WILLIAMS
State Auditor
_TERRY L. EVANS
Sup't of Public
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JOINT APPLICATION FOR PERMIT
' U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS SEPARATE PERMIT DECISIONS MUST
AND BE RECEIVED FROM BOTH THE STATE
STATE OF IDAHO, DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES OF IDAHO AND THE CORPS OF
STATE OF IDAHO, DEPARTMENT OF LANDS ENGINEERS PRIOR"TO START OF
WORK
The Department of the Army permit program is authorized by Section•10 of the Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899 and Section 404 of the
Clean Water Act. These laws require permits authorizing structures and work in or affecting navigable waters of the United States
nd the discharge of dredged or fill material into waters of the United States, including their adjacent wetlands. State permits
re required under the State of Idaho, Stream Channel Protection Act (Title 42, Chapter 38, Idaho Code) and the•idaho Lake Protec-
.ion Act, Section 58.142 et. seq, Idaho Code. This application will meet the requirements of the above agencies.
1. Corps of Engineers
Date Received
2. State of Idaho 0 -GS'.5' -- ,j ,- S
Date Received1) G/ / f P.3
PLEASE TYPE OR PRINT
3- Applicant Garnet Beach Homeowners Association
Mailing Address - 201 W. Jefferson
Boise, Idaho 83702
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Work Phone (20 343-2680 Noma (4115Ti 343-2680
Fax Number ( 208 ) 379 -8588
5. Location where proposed activity exists or will occur.
Waterway Payette Lake
McCall
In or near city or town
Vallev
..County
Idaho
state
83638
Zip Code
4. Authorized Agent
Nailing Address
Darrell C. Larsen
201. W. _Jefferson
Boise, Idaho 83702
Work Phone N; 34372680 Home A6g) 343-2680
Date of Application
Tributary of:
Assessor's Desc. (Tax,No. or Subdivi ion, Lot & Block No.)
*Davis Subdivision -West End *(See instructions)
Garnet Street
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Range
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6. Describe the proposed activity, including description of the type of structures, if any, to be erected on fills, or pile or
Ilk— float -supported platforms. If additional space is needed, use a separate sheet or Section 16 (Remarks).
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Construct a Dock using Conventional Procedures attached to Payette Lake Beach front; on
the Garnet Road Right of Way. The Dock will consist. of. a ?6 foot4wider�approach ane four
twenty foot long by six foot wide sections malting up the dock. The dock will be 100 ft-.
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Describe construction methods and equipment:
See attached Dock Plan - Flotation Styrofoam.
List all soil series located at project site, and indicate if any are on the county's hydric soils list:
Length of project'along the stream or extension into take or reservoir: /
Will material be placed waterward of ordinary high water mark? if yes, volume:
(cubic yards)
Wilt material be placed fn wettards7 (both temporary and permanent)
if yes, area: (acres)
Type and composition of fill material: (i.e. sand, etc.) Material Source:
Will excavation be required? If yes, volume: (cubic yards) Composition
Disposal site for excavated material: Method of dredging:
Stream gradient:
Method of controlling turbidity:
Size and flow capacity of proposed bridge or culvert and area of drainage served (sq. miles):
(Idaho Department of Water Resources requirement.)
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DOCK SITE AGREEMENT
This Agreement is made by and between the City of McCall, an Idaho municipal
corporation ("City"), and the Garnet Beach Homeowners' Association, Inc., an Idaho
nonprofit corporation, of McCall, Idaho ("Association"), for and in consideration o)'the
mutual promises herein contained.
Background
1. • City is the owner of the right of way of Garnet Street in fee simple determinable,
and holds it for the use of the traveling public.
2. Association is an incorporated association of homeowners who own property fronting
on Garnet Street, McCall Avenue, or Ruby Street. Copies of its Certificate of
Inco:poradon and of its Articles of Inca-T./oration are attached as Exhibit B.
3. Garnet Street is a platted street the far west end of which is the high water line of
Payette Lake. The westerly part of the street has not been constructed beyond the
point necessary to afford access to abutting properties. The right of way west of
that point is a fairly steep area that is covered with native trees and shrubs.
4. Association desires to construct a boat dock and to attach it to land at the West
end of Garnet Street, to build a pathway from the end of the developed street to
the dock, and generally to make landscape improvements upland from the dock
within the right of way.
5. City views the dock as an extension of the transportation use of the right of way,
and this Agreement has been favorably recommended to the City Council by
City's Park and Recreation Committee.
Agreements
6. Association is authorized by this Agreement to attach a dock to the west end of
the Garnet Street right of way. The placement of and plans for such dock are
subject to approval by the State of Idaho Department of Lands, and Association
shall obtain that approval before commencing any construction of such a dock.
Such dock shall comply with the Shorelines and Rivers Environs zoning
restrictions, MCC 3-13-4 (A) 2, and draft Ordinance 615, section 3-15-040 (B) 4,
an excerpt of which is set out on page 4 of this lease as Exhibit A.
7. Association shall pay City the sum of $1,120 on or before the first day of June of
each year, commencing June 1, 1994, as consideration for the right granted by
paragraph 6, above. With such payment Association shall fumish City a list of its
then current membership, indicating the mailing address of each and the location
of the McCall residence owned and occupied by each, and the certificates of
insurance indicated below. Such rent shall be increased in the fifth year and every
succeeding 5 years by a percentage equal to the percentage increase in the
wholesale price index computed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics with respect to
Boise, Idaho.
8. City neither authorizes nor prohibits the construction of a pathway and landscape
improvements within the right of way of Garnet Street. Any such improvements
are made at the risk of the Association, as against any public transportation needs.
9. Association shall maintain any such dock, pathway, and other improvements in a
condition safe for public use, and otherwise in good maintenance and repair.
Association shall provide insurance against personal injury and property damage
DOCK SITE AGREEMENT, Garnet St. rAw
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17. Any rights and remedies stated in this Agreement are cumulative.
18. The neglect of any party to enforce its rights at any particular times or upon any
particular occurrences shall not preclude resort to those rights at any other time or
with respect to any other occurrences. Any waiver of any right must be done in a
writing executed by the party to be charged with such waiver, and executed with
no fewer or different formalities and approvals than were attendant upon
execution of this Agreement.
19. This Agreement shall bind and inure to the benefit of the parties and their
respective successors.
20. This Agreement constitutes the entire Agreement between and among the parties
as to the matter set out in it, and all prior negotiations and discussions,
memoranda, correspondence, and communications are merged into and
extinguished by this Agreement.
21. Any notice permitted or required by this Agreement shall be effective when
received, if mailed by certified mail, return receipt requested, or by hand delivery,
to the address for notice below:
City of McCall
P. O. Box 1065
McCall, ID 83638
Attn.: City Clerk
cc: City Attorney
Garnet Beach Homeowners
Association, Inc.
-1-9.-Bax- .2 Q / ![J f rIele v •G
Boise, ID, 837 0 z
Notice to Association will also be effective if City posts notice upon the dock at a
time on or after Memorial Day through and including Labor Day. Either party
may change its address for notice by written notice.
Dated: July 22, 1993
Attest:
Art ur J/ chmi • t,
C ty Clerk
Laurence A. Smith, Jr.,
Mayor
Garnet Beach Homeowners'
Association, Inc.
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Its President
Its Secretary
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DOCK SITE AGREEMENT, Garnet St, r/w
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