HomeMy Public PortalAboutAAC Minutes 1989 03/01Attending:
AIRPORT COMMITTEE MINUTES
MARCH 1, 1989
Gordon Colburn
Rick Fereday
John Wolfe
Bill Dorris
Bill Statham
Chuck Sundby
Bud Schmidt
Duke Effinger
1.) Report on FAA Sponsor/Consultant Conference: The Staff and
engineers reported:
A.) The ALP, as prepared, is very likely to be approved.
B.) Relocation of Deinhard Lane will be FAA grant eligible as
an obstruction removal. This information could be used to
accelerate the State project.
C.) If the City of McCall can provide local match, the airport
has sufficient FAA priority that their 90% match will be
forthcoming on all eligible projects.
D.) When scheduled commuter service begins and the 2500
enplanment level is reached, an FAA entitlement follows as
does a 75% match for a terminal.
2.) 1989 AIP:
A.) The 1989 project is still weighing alternatives. Cold mix
recycling may be unacceptable due to the curing time
required which would make the closure lengthy. The E-W
taxiway is still being considered in the project scope.
B.) Closure issues: A letter (attached) regarding closure and
safety was reviewed. A special meeting with affected
parties was set for Tuesday, March 21, 1989 at the Smoke
Jumper Base conference room, 1 PM, to discuss these matters
in detail.
3.) Toothman-Orton Engineering Agreement: After discussion, the
committee asked the staff to work with the engineers to bring a
specific proposal, with an October 1, 1989 effective date, to
them at a later time.
4.) Passmore Aviation Lease: A discussion of the conflicting
insurance requirements, the Minimum Standards, and the State
Department of Agriculture resulted in no actions to alter the
minimum standards. Staff was asked to further negotiate with
Passmore Aviation on the matter.
5.) Other Business: An ILS was discussed. Estimated costs of the
ILS are $700,000.00 and of a MLS, about $900,000.00.
Without further business, the meeting adjourned.
Art ur J. Schrp(idt
City Administ for/Airport Manager
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
DAVIS C. TOOTHMAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND PLANNERS
(Retired)
1802 NORTH 33RD STREET
BOISE, IDAHO 83703
TELEPHONE (208) 342-5511
January 26, 1989
Bud Schmidt, City Administrator
City of McCall
P.O. Box 1065
McCall, Idaho 83638
Re: Airport Operation During Construction
McCall Municipal Airport
Dear Bud:
RICHARD F. ORTON, JR., PE/LS
PAUL S. KUNZ, PE/LS
STEVEN W. HOSAC, PE/LS
TIMOTHY A. BURGESS, PE
CHARLES P. SUNDBY, PE
DAVID G. POWELL, PE
GLENN K. BENNETT, LS
The continuation of airport operations during a construction
project has proven to be controversial in the past. Typically,
the Owner, Airport Manager, and FBOs desire to operate as close
to normal as possible by utilizing taxiways for operations. This
is normally desired for economic reasons and is a historic
practice. The Contractor, on the other hand, desires to conduct
his operations in an efficient manner with a minimum of hazard
and potential for conflicts. Coordination of his activities
with on -going airport operations can be a hindrance to optimum
construction operations. The Engineer's Resident Project
Representative can provide assistance and aid with
coordination so that both diverse interests can hopefully be
satisfied in a safe manner. This involves compromise and
cooperation of all involved in the project. The overriding
concern of all parties should be safety and the potential
liability associated with such operations.
To further complicate the issue, the FAA has not taken a clear
stand on the issue other than to say that "officially" the
airport should be closed. The FAA acknowledges that it is up to
the Airport Owner to finally decide on operational conditions
during construction and that in some cases economic conditions
might dictate that the airport remain open. Any directives which
are issued from FAA personnel regarding use of taxiways, etc. are
"unofficial" at best and may vary from office to office and
individual to individual. Official policy is that the FAA does
not "approve" use of taxiways for aircraft operations during
construction.
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
Bud Schmidt
McCall Municipal Airport
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In light of the FAA's policy, and because we have a healthy
concern for safety, we also do not recommend operations on
taxiways during construction. However, as with the FAA, we
believe the decision to continue or not continue operations
during construction is solely a local decision to be made by the
Airport Owner and management staff. If the local decision is to
continue operations it is our policy to honor that decision and
provide whatever assistance and coordination we can with respect
to appropriate safety precautions. However, the City of McCall,
as Airport Owner, is cautioned that even with additional safety
precautions and coordination it is accepting some degree of
additional liability. This fact must be considered when
establishing construction contract requirements such as,
insurance and operational procedures. Input from both the City's
legal counsel and insurance agent is recommended.
We have previously indicated our willingness to cooperate and aid
fully in conduct of air operations during construction; however,
this clearly places a significant additional burden and
responsibility on our personnel. We accept this responsibility,
but do request that the City of McCall indemnify Toothman-Orton
Engineering Company and its personnel from liability associated
with the conduct of air operations during construction.
Following are a few recommendations we believe to be
appropriate. We would encourage additional input from the
Airport Owner, management staff, and FBO's regarding these
recommendations and additional recommendations and procedures
related to safe aircraft operations during construction.
Contract Specification Section 1542, "Operational Safety During
Construction", provides general guidelines and requirements for
the contractor to follow. Project specific issues are normally
discussed further at Prebid, Pre -construction and job meetings
during construction.
The following should be accomplished prior to bidding the
project.
1. Arrange a meeting of impacted parties to discuss project
specific schedules and safety considerations during construc-
tion. Adopt a formal policy regarding operation during
construction.
2. Appoint a Safety Officer responsible for review and coordina-
tion of all air operation and construction activities during
the construction period.
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
McCall Municipal Airport
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3. Meet with legal counsel and insurance representatives to dis-
cuss liability issues, insurance requirements and other
contractural considerations for the project.
The following procedural recommendations should be considered if
limited operation during construction is allowed.
1. Issue a NOTAM formally closing the airport and informing
pilots of airport conditions.
2. Limit operations to pilots and FBOs familiar with the
facility who can demonstrate a serious need to operate from
the facility during construction.
3. Provide notification by airport unicorn radio to incoming and
departing aircraft that the airportand the runway are
officially closed, the length and width of the parallel
taxiway, and inform them that if they choose to use the
parallel taxiway they are doing so solely at their own risk.
4. Coordinate, through the designated Safety Officer, FBO and
pilot activities to minimize conflict with Contractor
operations.
5. Coordinate adequate barricading, signage, and/or flagmen to
minimize potential conflicts between construction activities
and aircraft operations.
6. We do not recommend that numerals be painted on the taxiway,
as some have suggested, as this could greatly mislead a pilot
who may not have received the NOTAM and may have no knowledge
of the airport and its condition during the construction
phase.
It is hoped this information serves to establish our position
regarding this issue and further provides helpful information for
you. Please feel free to call if you have questions or if you
wish to meet with us for the purpose of identification of project
specific requirements.
Very truly yours,
i 4(
Charles P. Sund.0, P.E.
Project Manager
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
cc: Michael R. Crader, Idaho State Engineer, FAA
Wayne D. Pickerill, Idaho Bureau of Aeronautics
Bill Williams, USFS
McCall Airport Advisory Committee
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
DAVIS C. TOOTHMAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND PLANNERS
(Retired)
1802 NORTH 33RD STREET
BOISE, IDAHO 83703
TELEPHONE (208) 342-5511
January 17, 1989
Bud Schmidt, City Administrator
City of McCall
P.O. Box 1065
McCall, Idaho 83638
RICHARD F. ORTON, JR., PE/LS
PAUL S. KUNZ, PE/LS
STEVEN W. HOSAC, PE/LS
TIMOTHY A. BURGESS, PE
CHARLES P. SUNDBY, PE
DAVID G. POWELL, PE
GLENN K. BENNETT, LS
RE: McCall Municipal Airport - General Services Contract
Dear Bud:
Our General Services Contract for the airport will have been in
effect for one year in February, 1989. I thought it would be
appropriate to review the work items which were addressed under
that contract during the past twelve months and also identify
work items which we perceive will need attention during the next
twelve months. I believe it is necessary to discuss these items
in the near future so that we have a general understanding of the
level of involvement desired and also, so that the Airport
Advisory Committee and City Council have an understanding of the
miscellaneous issues which relate to the airport and require
action.
During the past twelve months we have received a $200/month
retainer. As a rule -of -thumb this equates to 4 or 5 hours of
service of a Project Manager or Senior Planner at a discounted
rate from our normal billing rates. During the past twelve
months we have provided services under the contract for items
identified below. I have noted by (+) or (-) if work required
exceeded or was less than the rule -of -thumb hourly allowance, a
(0) indicates work within the rule -of -thumb range.
Work Items 2/88 to 2/89
1. Misc. relating to Airport Zoning Ordinance
2. Part 77 Evaluation relating to land development
along the Payette River near the airport
3. Analysis and Evaluation re: to Riverside Subd.
4. Aid and coord. relative to Contel Land Exchange
5. Aid and coord. relative to securing an NDB
Technician
6. Advise and Evaluate Hangar Layout, Location,
Orientation, and Construction
7. Evaluation of Snow Load Criteria in McCall Area
8. Research use of existing Weather Reporting
Equipment and Upgrading
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
City of McCall
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9. T/W signing coordination w/USFS (-)
10. Coord. A disc. re: to possible Movie Production
during 1989 Construction (0)
11. Coord. w/Site Aeronautics re: Light Hgt. (-)
12. Update DBE Program A letter for 1988 Construction (0)
13. Calculate R/W end point and displaced threshold
coordinates (longitude, latitude, and elevations)
for FAA preparation of instrument approach (+)
14. AWOS Installation - Preliminary Investigation
and Siting (+)
15. General coordination with Judd Deboer, Adjacent
Property Owner (0)
In general, we feel services provided have averaged out at a
compatible level with fees received. The only exception to this
is work relating to Hangar Layout and Design, as considerable
additional time was expended in research in this area. It may be
wise to identify and treat future hangar related work as a
separate issue covered by a separate work order.
We anticipate the possible need for services under the General
Services Agreement in the following areas during the next year.
Other unidentified items will no doubt arise.
1. Preparation of Hangar Site Layout Guidelines
and aid in setting building guidelines and
standards (++)
2. Preliminary coord. w/Deboers regarding long
range airport development and land acquisition (0)
3. Aid and advise in development of local share
funding sources for airport improvements;
immediate and future (+)
4. Aid in Deinhardt Lane Relocation Planning and
Coordination (+)
5. Coord. w/State Aeronautics re: State -Local
Lighting Program in 1989 (-)
6. Coordination with Movie company re: Construction
and Filming (?)
7. Coordination relative to possible commuter
service (?)
8. Possible Block Grant Assistance re: To an
industrial park or development of utilities to
airport lease sites (?)
9. Advise as to Power Source Location or
Relocation for Airport Lighting (0)
TOOTHMAN-ORTON ENGINEERING COMPANY
City of McCall
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I have also identified our anticipated involvement relative to
the current rule -of -thumb of 4 to 5 hours of service.
It is our opinion, that on an average, general services could
easily exceed the rule -of -thumb standard. We would like to
discuss either increasing the monthly retainer for 1989 or the
use of separate work orders to supplement the general services
agreement on an as needed basis.
As previously stated this information is provided as a basis for
discussion and as an aid in establishing direction for the next
year. I plan on being available to discuss this information at
the next Advisory Committee meeting which I believe is February
1. Please call me if you wish to discuss this information prior
to that time.
Very truly yours,
Charles Sundby(,/ P.B.
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