HomeMy Public PortalAbout20120510INFRAMins.pdfINFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING
CITY OF TYBEE ISLAND
May 10, 2012
5:00 P.M.
ATTENDEES: Paul Wolff, Diane Schleicher, Joe Wilson, George Reese, Tom Groover,
Barry Brown, Bill Nicholson and Gus Bell Jr.
Approve the minutes of the previous meeting – Minutes from the previous meeting were
approved before the microphone was turned on.
New Business:
I. General Engineering Services Proposal – HGBD
A. Diane Schleicher states that Tom Groover and Barry Brown got with HGBD
about a month ago and suggested that they do a general engineering proposal
for the City. This is their first take at it for any business that is not specific to a
larger project. Handouts of this proposal present.
B. Tom Groover suggested to lower the major project threshold to $2000 instead
of the proposed $3500 and itemized bills to be submitted monthly for all
services performed.
C. Paul Wolff recommends that Diane and Holmes (HGBD) get together
between now and next months meeting and get something in writing.
II. Groundwater Application Proposal – HGBD
A. Holmes (HGBD) states that this proposal is to modify your existing
groundwater permit for seasonal activity, similar to your sewer permit.
Basically it’s to increase your summer time water withdraw and lower your
winter time, to off set each other.
B. George Reese states that after talking to the Mayor, I really feel like this
would be a waste of time and money. We need to look into the cost of drilling
a deeper well as another alternative source. The State is not going to give us
any more on our existing permit for withdrawal, period.
C. Paul Wolff states he agrees with George based on what the Mayor said at the
last meeting.
D. Holmes (HGBD) asked if George is looking for lower Floridian access.
George states yes, but if we go real deep we know we would have to put in an
R/O system Plant. So if we go with the lower Floridian, we would need to find
out how much added withdrawal that we can receive from that well, from the
State. We would need to find out if it’s even feasible for us to do that as well.
Holmes states that HGBD is doing a test well with the USGS and EPD in
Pooler right now; that’s exactly what you would be looking at.
E. Paul Wolff asked HGBD if they could get us some rough numbers on the cost
of drilling, similar to what Pooler is doing.
Old Business:
I. HISTORIC BUTLER AVENUE TE GRANT
A. Project Status Update
1. Bill Nicholson states that after the last meeting HGBD did a Concept
Revision Document and sent that to (not audible) that administers the
TE Grant Program for GDOT. We sent that on the 24th and they
acknowledged us on the 25th. I heard back today that it is in the review
process. It hasn’t been approved or disapproved at this point. It’s going
through the review process by the people in Atlanta and Jessup. Bill
and Holmes left the Auditorium.
II. HISTORIC RAILS TO TRAILS TE GRANT
A. Thomas and Hutton Engineering Fee Proposal
1. John and Hank from Thomas & Hutton joins the committee at the table.
Hank states that one thing the City of Tybee might want to consider is that
a lot of Communities have multiple firms that they have “on call”
engineers for “small” stuff. There’s a standard form that everyone uses.
Paul Wolff asked if he could send a copy to Diane and the Infrastructure
Committee. Hank states that he will.
2. Everyone received a copy of the Thomas and Hutton Engineering Fee
Proposal. There was a question and answer period. The proposal itself was
not discussed. John and Hank left the Auditorium.
B. HGBD Amended Engineering Fee Proposal
1. HGBD returned to the Infrastructure Committee Meeting. Everyone
received a copy of the HGBD Amended Engineering Fee Proposal.
2. Bill Nicholson states that he refined some “rough” numbers given at the
last meeting for several different scenarios. If we do this just as a
pedestrian bicycle type path, which would be 8 ft. wide, 6 inch base with a
1-1/2 inch surface, except for the concrete between Byers and Teresa,
where we would do it as a sidewalk like we had planned, you can do the
entire thing for the Grant of $200,000 plus $13,000 more. (Not counting
engineering or anything, just construction) It’s a $200,000 Grant with a
20% match; so its $240,000 and we’ve already got $80,000 something on
the table. That does include the $15,000 I included for putting up that
fence going east from Battery Park Drive to match the one on the west
side going out. If we wanted to come back and make it thicker, to be able
to carry City vehicles and the Georgia Power vehicles that are using it
now, I looked at two things to do there; One would be to use 6” concrete,
which came out to be $45/linear ft. and the Grant would fund 3340 ft. of
that. That would get us just passed Battery Row with the cost being
$121,500. If you wanted to go all the way out, you would need another
$79,000. That would either be made up by the City or others, like Georgia
Power since they have expressed some interest.
3. Paul Wolff states, that was my thought, whatever it takes to build this
beyond what we need for the bike trail, is what Georgia Power picks up. I
think that’s the least they should do.
4. Diane Schleicher asked Barry Brown and Tom Groover if they were going
to vote on the Trails Grant.
5. Paul Wolff suggested getting a motion to move forward with HGBD scope
of work and that we contact Georgia Power asking them to come to our
next meeting, to see if they would be willing to absorb the additional
$79,000, to make this trail capable of handling their trucks.
6. Tom Groover states, I won’t vote; I’ll abstain.
7. Barry Brown made a motion to move on but Georgia Power has to step in
first. Georgia Power has to agree to do that or this is a mute subject.
8. Tom Groover agrees with Barry Brown that Georgia Power needs to be on
board with this first, before going forward.
9. Paul Wolff asked Diane to be sure that Georgia Power is at the next
meeting.
III. Update on Status of 14th Street Parking Lot Reconditioning and Layout Project
A. Diane Schleicher states that the Parking Committee is working on the layout.
With no further business to discuss, Paul Wolff adjourned the meeting.
A quorum of city council members may be present which would constitute a meeting.
Respectfully submitted by Karen Reese on 06/13/12