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MINUTES
JULY 10, 1990
7:00 P.M.
Committee Members Attending: Engen Williamson
Hormaechea Whiteman
McCarty
Also In Attendance:
Drips Bob Minshew
Jackson Sam Alacano
Andy Laidlaw
Minutes from the June 12th meeting were amended as follows:
Pepsi -Cola Contract: Total equipment costs installed has
been changed from $4,000 to $10,000 in value in exchange for
a five year contract with Pepsi -Cola.
Engen motioned to approve the minutes as amended. Williamson
seconded. There were three in favor and one against.
New Business
Men's Association Meeting: Dan Hormaechea in dissenting,
felt the minutes should reflect an additional item from the
Men's Association Meeting which was a motion to try another
routing of the holes after the first routing has been tried
for a month.
Laidlaw Update - Paving Road Entrance: Laidlaw recommends
not to pave this year. He felt uncomfortable with possible
soft spots and future settling.
Hormaechea motioned to delay paving to 1991 if costs, specs
and quality of paving could be in the contract, thus being
completed by 1991. Engen seconded. All were in favor, the
motion passed unanimously. Laidlaw agreed to research these
possibilities.
In addition to the discussion on paving the clubhouse
entrance, the committee also discussed moving the golf cart
wash pad. Whiteman then motioned to move the cart wash -off
pad from the east to the west side of the building to be
located at the loading dock. Williamson seconded, all were
in favor. the motion passed unanimously.
Laidlaw listed five add items to the construction project:
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1. Parking fill
2. Kitchen wall removal
3. Deck extension
4. Pro Shop shelving
5. Cart wash pad
$7,839.00
$135.00
$1,200.00
$2,250.00
$380.00
Total - $11,804.00
Discussion followed with a brief presentation of each add
item. The committee agreed to all changes.
Clubhouse Landscaping: The committee discussed landscaping
plans set forth by Kevin Grove of High Mountain Nursery.
Grove has agreed to donate labor. Material costs will be
paid for by the McCall Golf Foundation. Estimated costs for
materials are approximately $6,000. Some of these items are:
1. Irrigation supplies
2. Railroad ties
3. Top soil
4. Sod
5. Trees, shrubs, ground cover, etc.
The committee agreed High Mountain Nursery would do the
landscaping.
Clubhouse Special Use Permit: Bud Schmidt discussed with the
committee an oversight by the city to rezone the area now
occupied by the new clubhouse. Schmidt said he would handle
the problem. A public hearing will be held in the near
future.
Request for 15 Additional Lifetime Passes: Following a brief
discussion with foundation member Sam Alacano and his request
for additional lifetime passes, Williamson motioned to
recommend to the City Council additional sales of 15 more
lifetime passes on top of the 50 originally approved. The
passes would be sold for a minimum of $5,000. Hormaechea
seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
1991 Budget: The committee previewed the budget with
Superintendent Jackson and Bud Schmidt. Increases in the
maintenance of the golf course are to be expected. Some of
those accounts effected are, equipment maintenance, fuel and
lubrications, utilities, and clubhouse repairs. The
committee also discussed a raise for Superintendent Jackson.
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The committee requested research of other golf course
superintendent's salaries in the region and a report back at
the next committee meeting.
Private Carts Accessing Golf Course property: Chairman Engen
has asked for Williamson and McCarty to discuss any
concerns, complaints, etc., with effected property owners.
Open House and Calcutta: The committee agreed the new
clubhouse would not be an appropriate place to hold the
McCall amateur calcutta. An open house will be discussed at
a later date.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
The next meeting is scheduled for August 14, 1990 at City
Hall at 7:00 P.M.
Chairman
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PO COX 729, MC CALL, ID, 03638 200 63 1-5707
SITE OBSERVATION
JOB McCall Golf Course Clubhouse
TIME 2.30 PM
PERSONNEL&EQUIPMENT AT SITE
Finish crews
Carpet layers
CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES
DATE 7/25/9O
TEMPERATURE 75
REMARKS
Sprinkler system
1) Test area in mechanical room is not as per shop
drawings_ The valve has been backed up frorn the area near the
roof sheathing, leaving it dry_ The valve, however will be
buried in insulatiopn and impossible to find. The valve should
protrude through the drywall into the mechanical room for ease
of operation. The wet line to this valve goes through the
electrical runs out of the panels A & 0 and it will be impossible
to mound insulation over the line in this area..
2) A wet line is run over the top of the B 3/4 x 37 1 /2"
beam supporting the roof_ The beam insulates the line from any
interior heat_ This is unacceptable!
3) Insulation of wet line in attic- In the West 1/3 of the
building, bait insulation has been mounded over the lines in a
perpendicular direction_ This leaves a gap at each truss cord
where blown insulation could seperate the line frorn the
building heat_ The insulation used is R-11_ The truss cords are
2 x 6 and the lines are mounted on a 2 x furr up above that_
Assuming a 1" line and 12" of blown insulation, there would
only be 3 1/2" of insulation over the line_ Another R-19 batt
should be run over the existing batts and parallel with the line
at all 2x6 truss cords.
4) Wet lines in the cart storage area are still adjacent to
vents_ Either the lines should be moved or the mechanical
engineer should be contacted about moving the vents_
Insulation
1) The insulation baffles specified at the eaves were not
used. The insulation used as a baffle is too short and has fallen
down in many places_
2) The ceiling in the center section of the building is
higher than on the East and West sides_reither side accomplish
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there is a pony wall above beams o
This area has been insulated but insulation is
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insulation should be stappl ed to hold it in place_
3) Recessed lights- Sheet metal covers have been placed
over the recessed lights_ This will keep rnsulation from egetting
too closew to the lights_ An R-30 batt should be mounded over
the sheet metal before insulation is blown in_
The beam at the entry does not extend out to the end of the
steel column caps_ As the beam cannot be extended, the column
caps should be cut back flush with the end of the beam and
painted.
INFORMATION OR ACTION REQUIRED
Correct all noted items_ Relative to tute wet lines in the be walked through the
the City Fire Marshall and myself should
protection of these lines and approve beforesystem bl blown innilnste
i insulation is
installation of the bait insulation,
applied_
DISTRIBUTION -Billy Ray Strite, ECI, City of McCall, L_ T.
General, Job Site, File
BY Andrew Lai dl aw
` O NEERING
ONSULTANTS
fNCORPORATED
600 N. CURTIS
SUITE 201
BOISE, IDAHO 83706
PHONE (208) 376-9820
FAX: 376-9822
LESLIE A. STITH, P.E.
STEVE BASTIAN, P.E.
July 23, 1990
Mr. Andy Laidlaw
McCall Design
P.O. Box 729
McCall, ID 83638
SUBJECT: McCALL GOLF COURSE CLUBHOUSE - FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM
Dear Andy,
The following is my summary of the sequence of events for the
fire sprinkler system at the clubhouse:
First, the specifications were written as a performance
specification for a bidder design system. We originally
specified it to be a "dry" system because we didn't know if the
building would be heated in winter or not. We now know that it
will. Ron Stenquist at Treasure Valley Fire Protection called me
on the bid day and discussed with me some ambiguities in the
specifications. There were some references to components for a
"wet" system. He discussed with me why using a "wet/dry" system
would be better and could save the Owner some money. I agreed
with his reasoning, but I told him that there was not enough time
to write an addendum, so he would have to bid it the way he
interpreted the specifications. He said he thought everyone else
would bid it "wet/dry" so he said he would too.
Treasure Vally Fire Protection did end up being the low fire
sprinkler bidder from the bid depository. I do not know what the
other bids were or if they bid it all "dry" or not. When the
shop drawings came in, they, looked alright, even though they
showed a "wet/dry" system. I assumed that any questions about
the bids had been settled by the General Contractor.
As far as there being any inherent problems with the "wet/dry"
system, I don't see any. We need to get insulation over the
elbow that was touching the roof deck and we need to add heat to
the electrical room. Other than that, as long as the electric
heat remains on in the building, and all wet piping is covered
with insulation, there shouldn't be any problems. I would also
point out that the openings in the cart storage area need to be
covered with insulating panels for winterization.
The Fire Sprinkler Contractor says that there are several "wet"
systems in McCall. He also mentioned that even a "dry" system
has water in the heads that can freeze, unless each one is
drained individually, each time the system is tested (usually
once a year). I think you'll find that other fire sprinkler
contractors will agree that there are no more problems with "wet"
systems than with "dry" ones.
Our specifications did state "dry system" in the scope of work
section. The Contractor designed a "wet/dry" system. As the
designer he will warrantee his design just as we do. If he has
any reservations about his installed system freezing and causing
building damage, he would say so and he would do what was
necessary to alleviate any potential problems. I'm sure he would
also be willing to state this in a letter.
Please call if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS, INC.
Steve Bastian