HomeMy Public PortalAbout2005-12-06 PC MinutesVillage of Plainfield Planning Commission Record of Minutes Date: December 6 , 2005 Location: Village Hall Chairman Sobkoviak cal led the meeting to order at 7:0 3 . Roll Call Present: Commissioners Kachel, Henry, McKay, Renzi , Fazio, Sobkoviak, Ed O'Ro u rke , David Murawski Absent: Commissioner Lucenko, Park District , School District, Fire District , Library District, Police Department Minutes The minutes from the November 1 5 , 2005 meeting were accepted as presented . Development Report Jonathan Prou l x read the Staff report. - The plat of vacation for the Prairie Prof essional Building was approved. - The rezoning for the LifeS pring Community Church was approved. - The vacation of Indian Boundary as part of Creekside will be looked at next spring. - The Demolit ion Permi t O rdinance text amendment was approved. - The Final Plat for Grande Park Community Park West and Neighborhood 11 was approved. - The Sign Agreement was approved - The Crossroads Development was approved. - There was a presentation on Normantown Prairie (271 homes on approximately 121 acres). - There were discussions regarding the reuse of the grain elevator for a climbing wall. - The Michael’s Automotive letter was approved. - The request for an amendment to the Walmart PUD for Amvets was approved. - The Site Pla n Review for the Walmart expansion was approved. A Strategic Planning Session was also held. Commissioner Kachel asked what they would do with the exterior of the climbing wall. Mr. Proulx was not sure. There was some discussion regarding buildings up that high that are sometimes painted.
PLAN COMMISSION 12/06/05 MINUTES PAGE 2 New Business CASE: 1169 -031605.SPR SUBURBAN HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATES LOT 16 IN MENARDS OF PLAINFIELD SUBDIVISION Request: Site Plan Review Location: Lot 16 – Menards of Plainfield Subdivision (Between Wendy ’s and White Castle) Applicant: Dr. Sanjay Pethkar Time: 7:10 pm Jim Donahue read the Staff report. Chairman Sobkoviak asked if the engineer reviewed this. Neil Eickholtz of Baxter -Woodman said that other than the circulation issue, there were minor is sues only. Chairman Sobkoviak asked if a two -way access at the point in question would change the parking spaces. Mr. Eickholtz said no, the parking should remain. Their other concern was that the area to the south needed to be a little wider. However, the applicant had addressed this. Commissioner Renzi asked if they were doing a two -way on the South end. Mr. Eickholtz said that this was only a one -way, but as it entered the canopy area, the traffic could flow south. Chairman Sobkoviak swore in Lean ne Meyer -Smith of Newman Architecture who had no other comments other than that they did stipulate that the Northern lane could be two -way. They had planned for it only to be one -way to create a positive drive -thru under the canopy. They were concerned a bout adults or children coming out in the evening hours. Commissioner Renzi clarified on the layout of the parking if the trash unit could be changed to create better flow. Ms. Meyer -Smith said that they were just trying to force the entry to be at the s outh and the exit to be at the north. They also wanted to preserve green space. They were trying to create a landscape buffer, and they were concerned with patient and employee parking. They wanted as many spaces as possible. Commissioner Henry confirm ed that the Fire Department had reviewed this. They were okay with the ingress and egress but had one issue that the applicant is reviewing and addressing). The Fire Department had confirmed that this was okay for an ambulance to come under the canopy. Mr. Donahue added that since this was not a general retail building, he was not that concerned with the one -way circulation Mr. Murawski said that by changing the circulation, it made a big difference. Looking at that area, there was a little bit of conf usion, and the White Castle seemed to work the best because it forced people to move a certain way. He thought the Culvers and Wendys lots 2
PLAN COMMISSION 12/06/05 MINUTES PAGE 3 were problematic. He thought the two -way circulation would help. A discussion ensued regarding the width of the dr ive areas. Chairman Sobkoviak opened up the floor for public comment. There was no response. Commissioner Henry said that, by looking at the coloring rendering, he liked the visual impact. He was having a hard time understanding whether this was all ma sonry. Ms. Meyer -Smith said that this was all masonry – pre -caste and brick. Mr. O’Rourke asked if the photometric plan included wall mounts. Mr. Donahue said that these were more decorative and were not taken into account. Ms. Meyer -Smith concurred an d clarified how the mount lights would work. They also had plans for lights under the canopy. Commissioner Henry confirmed that the mechanicals would be hidden. Ms. Meyer -Smith added that they would be hidden behind a red brick portion of the building. The commissioner complimented her on the design. Commissioner Henry said that the commissioners asked about this being two -way, and he would like to see this straightened and widened if at all possible . Mr. Donahue said that they would straighten it and would lose some landscaping . Commissioner Kachel asked if there was a problem with moving the tr ash enclosure. Ms. Meyer -Smith said that this was only a problem if they we re trying to keep as many parking spaces as possible. A brief discussion ensued r egarding this. Commissioner Henry note d that the stipulation is for Fire Department approval. At 7 :27 pm, Commissioner Kachel moved to recommend approval of the site plan review for Lot 16 of the Menards of Plainfield Subdivision, subject to the following three (3) stipulations : 1. Compliance with the requirements of the Village Engineer. 2. Compliance with the requirements of the Plainfield Fire Protection District. 3. The light standards shall match the existing standards used in the overall subdivision. Commiss ioner Renzi seconded the motion. Chairman Sobkoviak called for a vote by roll call. Aye: Fazio, Renzi, Henry, Kachel, McKay, Sobkoviak Nay: None The motion is carried 6 :1 :0. This case would p robably go forward at the next Village Board meeting on Decemb er 19 . 3
PLAN COMMISSION 12/06/05 MINUTES PAGE 4 CASE: 1219 -110205.RZ SPRINGBANK REZONING Request: Map Amendment/Rezoning (Public Hearing) Location: Generall y south of Renwick Road, east and west of Drauden Road; and north of Walker Road west of County Line Road Applicant: MAF Deve lopment, Inc. Time: 7 :29 pm Mr. Proulx announced that this is a public hearing being held in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations of the Village of Plainfield and the State of Illinois. He presented the Staff report. Chairman Sobkoviak swore in Paul Mitchell of MAF Developments who reiterated that an annexation agreement was reached. They just came in because a rezoning was missed. All of these areas will come back for Site Plan Review. Chairman Sobkoviak noted that when any parcel is annexed into the Village, it automatically comes in as R -1 and has to come back to be rezoned. The Pre -annexation agreement, in this case, stated that if certain requirements were met, they could rezone. Chairman Sobkoviak opened up the floor for public comment. Chairman Sobkoviak swore in James Dumatis . He asked if – when they rezone – his property would stay the same or be rezoned as he connected with Neighborhood 5 . Mr. Proulx said that this will not affect his property. Mr. Dumatis asked, if thi s goes in before he moves, would there be a berm. Mr. Proulx said that when this unit comes in for Final Plat, they will have to prepare engineering plans. At that point, they would take in his desires; however, they had not filed this at this point. He added that rezoning will not change that. His desires were noted by Staff and Petitioner. Chairman Sobkoviak said they had not platted anything further yet. Mr. Mitchell added that south of the townhomes, the petitioner had agreed to berming. So, this will be an issue that they will address. Chairman Sobkoviak asked for any other public comment. There was none. At 7 :41 pm, Commissioner Henry moved to recommend approval of the rezoning of the commercial, daycare and townhome areas of Springbank of Pla infield from R -1 to B -3, B -1, and R -3, respectively. Commissioner Kachel seconded the motion. Chairman Sobkoviak called for a vote by roll call. Aye: Fazio, Renzi, Henry, Kachel, McKay, Sobkoviak 4
PLAN COMMISSION 12/06/05 MINUTES PAGE 5 Nay: None The motion is carried 6 :0:0. This case would p robably go forward at the next Village Board meeting on December 19. Commissioner Renzi asked, by looking back at map, if there was any way that Drauden would reconnect to old Indian Boundary. He noted that if they vacate Indian Boundary, they are losing a diagonal road that heads toward Plainfield South. Chairman Sobkoviak said that there was a drawing that showed roads. A discussion ensued regarding cut -through drivers, and Commissioner Renzi wanted a significant feeder. Chairman Sobkoviak said that the packets included a schedule of workshops . Mr. Proulx said that this was an outgrowth of discussions that stemmed from issues they had . The schedule was just a draft , and they we re looking for feedback before setting this as official . He said that th is would be an official P lan C ommission meeting but not a public hearing. Commissioner Henry thought that there should be a Traffic workshop as well as a high priority . Commissioner Fazio wanted to see the School District before the Park District . Commi ssioner Kachel said that Kendall county wa s doing a lot for water run -off, s o he suggested maybe do ing more than a retention pond workshop with that meeting . A b rief discussion ensued regarding this. Commissioner McKay asked if they could a dd something f or downtown possibilities – like public or retail input and direction. Chairman Sobkoviak said that this might be part of Economic Development . Commissioner Kachel thought they might be able to create a “wish list” of what they’d like in thei r community . Commissioner McKay was just basing this on homeowner concerns to want to patronize local vendors . A discussion ensued regarding changing the community and vendor s to the north advertising more. Commissioner McKay said that retail store owners may come forward to give input . Mr. Proulx said that they had not contacted respective agencies yet, so this will depend on their availabilities as well. However, he said he would do his best to accommodate all schedules. Commissioner Henry noted that this was m eant to be a fa ct -finding “mission” so they could understand their needs and procedures – not so the commission can tell them how to do their job . Chairman Sobkoviak said that this was similar to wanting to form the H istoric P reservation Commission. They recognize d t he efforts of other commissions, and he said that plann ing encompasses so many things, they just want ed to see what all is involved . A discussion ensued regarding this. Commissioner Renzi was looking at an agenda list and thought it might ma ke sense to talk to the P ark D istrict and S chool D istrict together about maximizing acreage and open space. He said that they may be able to consolidate the conservation easements as part of 5
PLAN COMMISSION 12/06/05 MINUTES PAGE 6 the retention pond s . They a lso wanted to understand everything as annexations start c oming in to get a clearer vision of their direction. Mr. O’Rourke asked if the stuff end ed up coming in at the time of a PUD. Mr. Proulx said that most of these would come up with large annexations or developments . Commissioner McK ay asked to get a list of all the different commis sions that exist, and Chairman Sobkoviak asked that the staff provide this . Commissioner Renzi saw an article on new market tax credits for low and middle income housings. He d id not know if th at would be applicable. Mr. Proulx said that currently, the December 20 meeting is published and scheduled, and he thought there we re cases in the pipeline . Mr. Donahue added that the possibility of the meeting depended on engineering. Chairman Sobkoviak declare d the meeting closed at 8 :01 pm . __________________ Respectfully submitted, Laura Griffith -Recording Secretary Karick & Associates, Inc. 6