HomeMy Public PortalAbout2003-03-18 PC minutesVillage of Plainfield Planning Commission Record of Minutes Date: March 18, 2003 Location: Village Hall Chairman Sobkoviak called the meeting to order at 7:05pm. Roll Call Present: Commissioners Kachel, Henry, Gehrke, Anderson, Sobkoviak Absent: Commissioners Manning, Schinderle, Park District, School District, Fire Protection District, Library District Minutes The minutes for the February 18 th , 2003 and March 4 th , 2003 meetings were accepted as presented. Old Busin ess CASE NO.: 1001 -092702.SPR/SU Request: Special Use (Public Hearing) Site Plan Review Location: Kensington Center, 127 th Street and Route 59 Applicant: Mark Perle Commenced: 7:10pm Mike Hill gave the staff report. Ed Welch, attorney for the applican t, addressed the commission. We agree with most of the items outlined in the staff report. Regarding the architecture, we believe that the building should not look exactly like the rest of the buildings around it. It should look similar, but not identi cal. Thus, we feel that it would be appropriate to incorporate some creative elements that differentiate the look of this building from the surrounding ones without causing too much of a design variation. With respect to the western façade, we cannot ma ke the doors glass because of insurance concerns. Though they are not shown in the plans, the doors will be six -panel steel doors. We don’t believe that their absence in the plans warrants the creation of a new architectural drawing, which would burden m y client with a great expense. 1
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5. Submittal of a revised photometric plan prior to final board approval 6. Submittal of a trash enclosure plan prior to final board approval 7. Introduction of ground lighting fixtures at t he entryway along the western façade. Commissioner Henry seconded the motion. Chairman Sobkoviak called for a vote by roll call. Aye: Kachel, Henry, Gehrke, Anderson, Sobkoviak Nay: None The motion is carried 5:0. New Business CASE NO.: 1026 -021403.S PR PANERA BREAD (KENSINGTON CENTER, LOT 3) Request: Site Plan Review Location: Route 59 and 127 th Street Applicant: Mars -Kensington, LLC Commenced: 7:38pm Mike Hill gave the staff report. David Schaum, attorney for the applicant, presented. We a gree with staff, but we have concerns about staff’s request for foundational plantings – they can cause damage to the structure due to moisture. Regarding the sidewalk, we would like to do something similar to the previous case – that is, to make a contri bution that would be returned if it is not used. Chairman Sobkoviak asked the petitioner if he would be willing to agree to the same conditions as Mark Peters Jewelers. Mr. Schaum said that they would. Chairman Sobkoviak asked staff if the foundational plantings could be avoided. It’s not good to have them right up to the structure. Mr. Hill said that decorative planters should be acceptable. Mr. Schaum said that we will work with staff. Chairman Sobkoviak opened the meeting up to public comment at t his time. No public comment was submitted. Chairman Sobkoviak clarified that the petitioner was in agreement with the stipulations in the staff report. 3
Mr. Schaum responded in the affirmative. Commissioner Anderson moved to recommend approval of the site plan for outlot 3 of the Kensington center subject to the following stipulations: 1. Compliance with the requirements of the Village Engineer 2. Compliance with the requirements of the Plainfield Fire Protection District 3. Submittal of a lighting plan as out lined in the staff report prior to a building permit 4. Submittal of a revised landscape plan that shows the incorporation of decorative planters 5. The introduction of some decorative lighting to the eastern and northern façades 6. The incorporation of a sidewalk along Route 59 7. That the materials used on this structure match the existing materials at Barnes & Noble and the Kensington Center in -line space Commissioner Kachel seconded the motion. Chairman Sobkoviak called for a vote by roll call. Aye: Kachel, Henr y, Gehrke, Anderson, Sobkoviak Nay: None The motion is carried 5:0. CASE NO.: 1013 -121203.SPR.RZ LINCOLNSHIRE APARTMENTS Request: Site Plan Review Rezoning from B -5 to R -4 (Public Hearing) Location: Van Dyke Road and Route 126 Applicant: Bill Habiger , Lincolnshire Properties Commenced: 7:55pm Mike Hill gave the staff report. Chairman Sobkoviak asked Derek Wold if there were any engineering issues. Mr. Wold said that there were a few concerns: Stormwater drainage: Does the storm water drain to the s ite or off -site? A second access point must be incorporated on the site Bill Haveger, owner and developer of the project, addressed the commission. The landscaping is fairly identical to what is on the plan. The issues such as garbage have been taken ca re of. 4
Chairman Sobkoviak asked the petitioner if he was in agreement with the stipulations in the staff report. He was. Commissioner Henry asked how many parking spaces would be lost by moving the garage. Chairman Sobkoviak opened the meeting up to pu blic comment at this time. No public comment was offered. Commissioner Kachel moved to recommend approval of the proposed site plan subject to the following stipulations: 1. Compliance with the requirements of the Village Engineer 2. Compliance with the requi rements of the Plainfield Fire Protection District 3. Relocation of the proposed trash enclosures at the northeastern and southeastern corners of the site to a single central trash enclosure for the entire Lincolnshire Apartments development 4. Submission of arc hitectural elevations for the proposed central trash enclosure prior to review by the Village Board 5. Submission of a revised site plan showing the proposed parking lot and access drives redesigned to provide a second access point for the development, the cr eation of a stub connection to the north, and the creation of a central trash enclosure prior to review by the Village Board. A revised landscape plan should also be submitted if the site plan revisions require alterations to that already submitted. 6. Submi ssion of architectural elevations for the proposed garage structures and paint and material samples for the entire development prior to review by the Village Board 7. Submission of a revised lighting plan showing zero light spillover to adjacent properties C ommissioner Anderson seconded the motion. Chairman Sobkoviak called for a vote by roll call. Aye: Kachel, Henry, Gehrke, Anderson, Sobkoviak Nay: None The motion is carried 5:0. Commissioner Kachel moved to recommend approval of the requested rezoning f rom B -5 to R -4 for the property commonly known as the Lincolnshire Apartments expansion. Commissioner Anderson seconded the motion. Chairman Sobkoviak called for a vote by roll call. 5
Aye: Kachel, Henry, Gehrke, Anderson, Sobkoviak Nay: None The motion i s carried 5:0. Chairman Sobkoviak said that things should be taken care of before it comes to the Planning Commission. We should not say that an applicant should take care of something before going to the Village Board. These things should be done befo re coming here because our meetings are public hearings. The public has the right to hear all aspects of a plan. This isn’t happening. Please make sure this practice is minimized. Commissioner Kachel said that putting fish in ponds can be a nice enviro nmental way of dealing with mosquitoes. Chairman Sobkoviak said that this information should be made available to homeowners associations. All the commissioners expressed their appreciation for the good work staff did with the A/V equipment, and thanked staff for its efforts. Chairman Sobkoviak suggested having some Village ITS people coming out to talk to us about the new technology we have here. Commissioner Kachel said that we need to raise the bar when it comes to plantings and trash enclosures sinc e applicants are consistently far exceeding the minimum requirements. Chairman Sobkoviak declared the meeting adjourned at 8:30pm ___________________ Respectfully submitted, Warren Lindsay Warren Lindsay Recording Secretary Karick & Associates, Inc. 6