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Home My Public Portal About1993-04-06 PC minutesWA IN 011511 IN X 13 1 DATE: April 6, 1993 COADUSSIONERS PRESENT: EX- OFFICIO PRESENT: ALSO PRESENT: AT: Chairman Sobkoviak W. Schempf E. Fortin M. Gehrke Plainfield Library H. Bayer D. Norris G. Krahn Peter J. Waldock, Village Planner S. Hart, Secretary Chairman Sobkoviak called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. Roll call was taken. A. Consola, M. Krippel, G. Bott, J. Ray, R. Zimmerman, J. Eichelberger and the School District Representative were absent. Chairman Sobkoviak declared the minutes of the last meeting, March 16, 1993 accepted as presented. OLD BUSINESS: NEW BUSINESS: 385- 032293.FP Baish Re- Subdivision This is a re- subdivision of three existing single - family lots in Indian Oaks Estates, Unit VI. They desire to combine three lots to create two new single - family homesites. The Re- subdivision will yield two new single - family lots of 17,212.5 sq. ft. Stormwater retention and public improvements were accommodated in terms of surety by the Indian Oaks Subdivision, as these lots are developed they will be required to install sidewalks, and parkway trees consistent with Subdivision Ordinance requirements. Staff recommended approval of Baish Re- subdivision, subject to the following stipulations: All remaining public improvements to be installed prior to approval of occupancy permits for either of the two lots of the Re- subdivision. These improvements include, a minimum of two parkway trees, one for each lot, in accordance with Subdivision Ordinance requirements (two parkway trees each are suggested) also, construction of sidewalks in accordance with Indian Oaks Estates design criteria. After discussion of; if there should be one tree or two trees per lot frontage; W. Schempf made a motion that the Plan Commission recommend approval of the Final Plat for Re- subdivision Lots 34, 35 and 36 of Indian Oaks Subdivision. Seconded D. Norris. Roll call vote: E. Fortin, yes; D. Norris, yes; W. Schempf, yes; H. Bayer, yes; Chairman Sobkoviak, yes. Motion carried. 5 -yes, 5 -no. PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES April 6, 1993 Page 2 DISCUSSION: DAN O'DONNEL CONCEPT SCHEME This property is located adjacent and north of Golden Meadow Estates Unit 4 & 5, along the west side of Route 59. The subject site aligns with the Graver Estates main entrance. The property is 10 acres in area, narrow and deep at 350 ft. in width and 1254.6 ft. depth from the highway. Scheme One, C: This Concept Plan provides transition of lot areas 9300 sq. ft. along the south, to 12,000 sq. ft. along the north property perimeter. The Concept would accommodate the extension of Douglas Drive and will accommodate the access into Golden Meadows Unit 5. An existing single - family house remains on Lot 28 of the subject site, and a detention pond is also located in the north east corner of the subdivision. Scheme Two, D: This Concept includes 29 residential lots of which lot 29 is accommodating the existing residence on the site. Douglas Drive continues the present alignment. This scheme provides the extension of Douglas Drive to the west and also provides the connection with Golden Meadows Estate Subdivision to the south. Scheme Three, B: This scheme provides 28 single - family lots, and a detention area. This scheme also provides a transition from 9300 sq. ft. along the south to 12,000 sq. ft. along the north. The roadway alignment provides the extension of Douglas Drive, and a link to the north. Scheme Four, A: This Concept Plan provides 28 single - family lots, a detention area, the extension of Douglas Drive to a cul -de -sac at the west, and connection with Golden Meadows Subdivision to the south. The typical lot size in this subdivision is 10,650 sq. ft. which is the minimum lot size for the project. This scheme anticipates Village Ordinance amendments to accommodate 10,000 or 10,500 sq. ft. lots at sometime in the future. These concept schemes are presented to the Plan Commission for informal discussion and review. You are asked to make comments with regard to this layout and lot area considerations. Please be prepared to identify any concerns you may have with regard to this project. The owner of the property to the north (155 acres) didn't want smaller lots, because of his property values, he also wanted a stub street to his property. After discussion regarding, minimum lot size; the water that flows through the site, that could cause a problem with detention; the need for stub streets both to the north and the south. The consensus of the Commission was that they wanted 12,000 sq. ft. lots, and 85 ft. frontage, with the stub street to the north and to the south. PLAN COADUSSION llIINUTES April 6, 1993 Page 3 DISCUSSION: ROBERT T. WOTCIK SAM'S TOWING This property is located at Route 59 and Ottawa, it is presently Zoned B -2. Mr. Wojcik is in negotiations with Bill Caton to buy Sam's Towing. His intentions are to lease the northwest corner for a muffler and break service company, leaving the southwest corner to be used as an automobile used car lot. Mr. Wojcik will need B -3 for Auto sales. After discussion regarding lack of parking in the area, and the residential neighbors reaction to B -3 in the area, and the bright lights in a Residential District. The consensus of the Commission was, not to change the zoning from B -2 to B -3. DISCUSSION: FENCE ORDINANCE REVISIONS The Village Board of Trustees have expressed an interest in revisions to the Village Fence regulations. Specifically the central core area of the Village. Currently Village Ordinances limit residential fences to six feet in height, side and rear yards only. Front yard fences are prohibited in residential areas with the exception of corner lots which may have a front yard fence no higher than three feet and such fences must have an open design so as not to block traffic visibility. The Board had expressed an interest in consideration of relaxing prohibitions against front yard fences in the Central Core area of the Village. Historically front yard fences had previously been permitted in the Village of Plainfield. In order to maintain the historic character, it was felt by some of the members of the Board of Trustees that front yard fences should once again be considered. At the present time the Building Department has issued stop work orders on two fences which are awaiting resolution of this matter. Previously front yard fences have been installed at somewhat greater height than three feet, perhaps 40" - 48" would be a reasonable height as long as the fence is styled so as not to block traffic visibility on corner lots or driveway access to streets. No particular style of fence was specified by the Village Board during discussion on the subject. However, the Plan Commission could consider particular styles of fences for front yard placement or other types of limits if there are concerns identified with front yard fences. Further, the Plan Commission could consider limiting the front yard fence provisions to the Central Core area of the Village only. This would prohibit fences in newer subdivisions such as Pheasant Chase, Indian Oaks Estates, Quail Run, Golden Meadows, Winding Creek and Whispering Creek. During discussion by the Plan Commission, the consensus was to be agreeable to front yard fences provided it was very specifically defined; perhaps with site plan approval for each, as it is with Special Sign Approval in the Central Core. Adjo,.c1 A� Sharon Hart, Secretary VILLAGE PAIN EL WILL COUNTY'S OLDEST COMMUNITY r� Would everyone attending this Plan Commission meeting `y _ � 1993. Please sign this sheet for our official records. n Address 4; 1/C) 69 z ? S h=- -'nC -P-t4 J c- n 1400 NORTH DIVISION STREET • PLAINFIELD, ILLINOIS 60544 • (815) 436 -7093 9 Fax (815) 436 -1950 IL n Address 4; 1/C) 69 z ? S h=- -'nC -P-t4 J c- n 1400 NORTH DIVISION STREET • PLAINFIELD, ILLINOIS 60544 • (815) 436 -7093 9 Fax (815) 436 -1950