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DATE: August 17, 1993
COAINMSIONERS PRESENT:
E%- OFFICIO PRESENT:
AT: Plainfield Library
M. Krippel A. Consola
W. Manning L. Kachel
W. Schempf
Park District Representative
Joe Ray, Trustee
Peter J. Waldock, Village Planner
Howard Hamilton, Village Engineer
L. Pehlke, Acting Secretary
Vice Chairman Consola called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Roll call was taken, D. Norris,
J. Sobkoviak, the School, the Library, the Fire, and Township Representatives were absent.
The minutes were not approved.
The Planning and Development Committee report was presented by Trustee Ray: The Board
of Trustees want the governmental agencies to have input with Final Plat approval, we will need
to encourage the Park, School, Township, Library and Fire Protection Districts to attend our
Plan Commission meetings.
The Winding Creek Subdivision Final Plat was approved by the Village Board, with stipulations
regarding the light at Spangler Road, and IDOT. The Final Plat for Chicago Bridge and Iron
were approved, the Zoning Interpretation for Related Living was approved by the Village Goard,
and the Building Official will issue the building permit. The Village Board has directed that the
issue should go back to the Planning and Development Committee to write a Text Amendment.
G. Bott updated the Plan Commission regarding Walker's Grove, the Park District reached an
agreement, and Walker's Grove will donate 31 /z acres north of the school site, and the park
donations are all acceptable to the Park District.
OLD BUSINESS:
CASE NO. 401- 063093.TA RELATED LIVING UNITS Continuing discussion.
Planner Waldock summarized his report as follows: The Village Board has directed the
Development Committee to draft an Ordinance Amendment, which the Plan Commission has set
the ground work for at this time. The petitioners have been granted approval of their building
permit, and it will be issued August 18, 1993. He suggested that the Plan Commission continue
the case again and wait for the Development Committee's report.
After a short discussion, W. Manning moved to continue the case. Seconded by W. Schempf.
Roll call vote. W. Schempf, yes; W. Manning, yes; L. Kachel, yes; A. Consola, yes;
M. Krippel, yes. Motion carried 5 yes, 0 no.
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NEW BUSINESS:
CASE NO. 410- 081093.FP WINDING CREEK UNIT 6 FINAL PLAT
Planner Waldock summarized his report as follows: The subject site in this case is Lot 50, of
Winding Creek Subdivision. The site is a fully developed model home site for the townhouses.
Timberview is seeking a lot split that would divide these units for separate transfer of individual
portions of the lot along with each town house unit. This subdivision is consistent with other
Multi - family subdivision lots within the Winding Creek project. Therefore, Staff is
recommending approval of the re -plat as proposed.
There being no discussion, W. Schempf made a motion to approve the re -plat. Seconded by L.
Kachel. Roll call vote. W. Schempf,. yes; W. Manning, yes; L. Kachel, yes; A. Consola,
yes; M. Krippel, yes. Motion carried. 5 yes, 0 no.
CASE NO. 405- 070893.PP VINTAGE HARVEST PRELMIINARY PLAT
Planner Waldock summarized his report as follows: The applicants are progressing through the
Annexation process, The subdivision provides 150 Single - family homes, there have been some
revisions; an elimination of a cul -de -sac, and the elimination of one of the access points to the
Waite Farm north of the site. These changes were made at the suggestion of Village Staff.
The owner of the Waite Farm's Attorney indicated to the Village, the desire to relocate the
access to the access to the north. They have a Concept Plan of the Waite Farm that shows a
detention pond in that area, and felt that the extension of Burgundy Lane at that point would
interfere with their potential location of storm pond. The previous Concept Plan also showed
an access at Alsage Ct. and Chablis Lane, Staff felt that the two accesses could be combined
into one, and located at Chablis Lane. They have also provided a slight redesign of the eyebrow
locations, this had previously been a 90o corner to that intersection. We also had asked the
Developer to look at the alignment of Vintage Drive and Fraser Road. The neighbors on Fraser
Road have expressed concern with the alignment of Vintage pointing directly at homes, Staff was
unable to come up with a solution that worked better for the layout of the subdivision. None
of the other parameters of the subdivision have changed with the Preliminary Plat application.
Lots are still intended to achieve 12,000 sq. ft. throughout the project, all lots will be revised
to a minimum of 85 ft. wide for Final Plat. The subdivision is served by a typical storm sewer
system, easements are provided for the service of sump pumps to the storm system on each of
the lots. (The actual designs will be provided at the Final Plat stage). Park area remains along
the west perimeter, additional lots have been provided adjoining the high tension line, there are
no longer any lots abutting the high tension lines. This will provide a continual link for a linear
park, which is what the Park District wants. The subdivision plat, as presented, is in substantial
compliance with the Concept Plan. Staff therefore is recommending approval of the Preliminary
Plat for Vintage Harvest Subdivision subject to the seven stipulations in the staff report.
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The Plan Commission questioned: What was the reason for the homeowners concern of the
access from Vintage Drive on to Fraser Road?
S. Bellforth, attorney for Lewis and Borgo spoke regarding the concerns of the homeowners
regarding the access of Vintage Drive on to Fraser Road. The street empties into his clients
driveway, and there is no barrier from the street to their driveways. He questioned, why do
they need two access points on to Fraser Road? He suggested dedicating the land for the
existing road (that is on his clients property) to the Village, so the homeowners can have
influence in the way the road will be crowned, and drained. Why, he reiterated, does the
Vintage Drive access have to be at that point, and what barrier will be used to protect the
homeowners? He also requested a stop sign for the exit, and lower the speed limit from 35 to
30 mph to help insure the safety of his clients. The Attorney also voiced concerns of surface
water runoff.
Planner Waldock spoke to the concerns of Attorney Bellforth regarding the location of the street:
The Fire District requires two access points from the adjoining roadway system, and one access
between subdivisions to provide a neighborhood connection. There is one access to Lewood
Subdivision and one to the Waite Farm to the north. The suggestion of the dedication of Fraser
Road to the Village, Planner Waldock said the Village would be willing to work with the
owners.
Michael Guinta spoke to the concerns of Attorney Bellforth regarding runoff. According to the
Engineering done by Paul Morris, the runoff is proposed to go to Rt. 59, and the route to Rt.
59 is yet to be determined.
H. Hamilton of Hamilton Engineering spoke regarding Fraser Road: Our main question is, will
we have a 37 ft. wide street with curb and gutter, or a rural profile with ditches? Normally
the Village requires a 37 ft. street with curbs and gutter, sidewalks, and street lights. Morris
Engineering, Mr. Guinta's Engineer, has looked at the grades in this area and does not feel that
the type of street can be properly drained. We have asked for additional information, we do
know that the ditches along the road are lower than the box culvert near Wedgewood, where it
goes back to the east side of the street. We need for this problem to be resolved before the
Final Plat approval.
Planner Waldock said that this message has been delivered from staff, to Morris Engineering,
and Mr. Guinta, it is in their hands at this point.
After a long discussion regarding these issues, W. Manning made a motion, seconded by M.
Krippel to approve the Preliminary Plat subject to the following stipulations:
1. Re- configure the intersection of Burgundy Drive and Chablis Lane to provide a soft
curve west toward Chablis. This may require street name changes.
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2. Re -name the east/west leg of Vintage Drive to avoid confusion with the north /south leg
of Vintage Drive.
3. Provide storm sewer access to each lot.
4. Lots 33 - 45 and 141 -150 are acceptable at the lot widths presented. Lots 7 -11 should
be increased to 85 ft. minimum width.
5. Compliance with the requirements of the Village Engineer's report.
6. Compliance with provisions of the Plainfield Fire District.
7. All lots shall be designed to achieve a 12,000 sq. ft. minimum area.
8. Re- evaluate intersection of Vintage Drive and Fraser Road, in effort to improve safety
concerns expressed by neighbors and maintain necessary accesses.
9. It is the Plan Commission's desire that Fraser Road should be constructed to an Urban
Profile neighborhood collector in accordance with proposed Transportation Plan.
Roll call vote: W. Schempf, yes; W. Manning, yes; L. Kachel, yes; A. Consola, yes; M.
Krippel, yes. Motion carried 5 yes, 0 no.
Adjourn 8:22.
Sharon Hart, Secretary