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HomeMy Public PortalAbout1988-01-05 PC minutesPLAINFIELD PLAN COMMISSION DATE: January 5, 1988 AT: Village Hall Commissioners Present: Chairman Simmons, J. Sobkoviak, W. Schempf, M. Krippel, H. Bayer. Ex-Officio Present: L. Kelly, B. Russ, A. Arbo, E. Schrader, Fire Dept. Representative. Chairman Simmons called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Roll call was taken. R. Neely, J. Anderson, M. Gehrke, J. Myers, J. Eichelberger, J. Bostjancic, G. Krahn, and J. Wilson were absent. There being no additions or corrections, Chairman Simmons declared the minutes of the November 3, 1987 and November 17, 1988 meetings approved as presented. County Case - Ronald L. Schelling..petition for rezoning from A-1 to R-2A, 1018 North Renwick Road. Mr. Richard Kavanagh was present on behalf of petitioner, Ron Schelling, who is the developer and land owner. The 32.7 acre parcel is located on-the south side of Renwick Road west of Route 59 and immediately north of the LeWood Subdivision. The surrounding land use is agricultural and residential. Petitioner is requesting R-2A zoning. Lot sizes will be 30,000 square feet which is required for well and septic. LeWood is also well and septic. Their lots are smaller because they were developed under the old county zoning ordinance. Several residents from the LeWood Subdivision were present and expressed their concerns on drainage and LeWood Drive becoming a through street. They are very concerned about the through street and feel the only thing it will do is make a major thoroughfare that is not going to be protected by any police on a regular basis. With more homes built it will create more traffic. It will be dangerous for children playing, cars park on the street as there is no ordinance prohibiting parking on the street. The residents stated they have no problem with the proposed subdivision but request their subdivision be left as is and let the two entrances come into the new subdivision. They are also concerned about the drainage. The proposed subdivision is higher than their property. If the water is not drained off properly it will flood their property. The residents are concerned there will be a problem with water runoff due to the fact there will be more houses and roads on that property that will not soak up the water as it does today. They stated currently in the middle of that property there is a large area that retains water all year long and it is not where the proposed detention pond is, it is in the middle where the roads are going through. PLAINFIELD January 5, Page Two PLAN COMMISSION 1988 There were also a couple of residents who farm land around this proposed subdivision present and stated they are also very concerned about the drainage. Mr. Kavanagh stated they have to build according to county ordinances, will put in the detention required to detain the water. Ms. Fagan assured the residents that the request tonight is for rezoning only. When the petitioner comes in for preliminary plat approval he will have the detailed engineering and that is where they can get the details on the questions raised tonight. Ms. Fagan also stated she will make note of all the concerns raised tonight in her report to the county. W. Schempf moved to recommend that the Village Board not object to the proposed county rezoning, that the objections on drainage and the through street be noted in report to the county, and refer this case to the Village Board for possible consideration for annexation. Seconded by H. Bayer. Roll call vote. Sobkoviak, yes; Schempf, yes; Krippel, yes; Bayer, yes; Simmons, yes. 5 yes, 0 no. Motion carried. Case No. 165-92872 - Continuation of public hearing, Chobar/Hardee's rezoning case. Ms. Fagan read the public hearing guidelines. Petition for rezoning for Chobar Trust and Oreel Management for the property rezoning from Residence A and Business District 2 to Business District 4 for property located on the east side of Route 59 between Lockport and Chicago Streets. The surrounding land use is commercial, residential and public facilities with the elementary school. Mr. John Starritt was present from Oreel Management with a revised site plan-and stated they have taken all the concerns given by the Plan Commission and have done everything humanly possible to get to this point. He noted the changes regarding landscaping, right-turn lane on Chicago Street, Route 59 exit and entrance, Lockport Street exit and entrance, discussed gate on Lockport Street, fencing along the alley, discussed the alleyway, sidewalks, parking, and the utilities. As far as the utilities, they will stay the same. The burying of the utilities is cost prohibitive and they cannot do it. Regarding traffic he stated that just because there will be cars stopping and eating there, there is not going to be a steady flow. It is important for the restaurant to have the best traffic flow because people will not stop if they can't get in and out. PLAINFIELD PLAN COMMISSION January 5, 1988 Page Three Mr. Starritt said the Hardee's sign is their basic sign. They would like to put a message board under the sign solely for the use of the community and community projects. The sign on the drawing is approximately 98 square feet. They have one that's around 65 square feet. Ms. Fagan read a letter dated January 5, 1988 from the Plainfield Fire District where they state though dimensions and specification are minimal, they have no immediate objections to the treatment of access to the alley and curb-cut alignment at Route 59, but reserve the right to comment on fire prevention and life safety points when more detailed drawings and specifications are presented prior to the issuance of construction permits. I Ms. Fagan read a letter dated January 4, 1988 from Plainfield Community Consolidated Schools stating their position that careful consideration should be given to the safety of children, a visual barrier to avoid dangerous strangers parking at Hardee's to observe children, and that traffic be prevented from turning into and out of Hardee's parking lot on Lockport Street during school hours and when buses are loading and reloading children. One resident was present and stated she was definitely in favor of the proposal. Many residents were present stating their objections to the proposal. After long.discussionr, Ms. Fagan read.her report to the Plan Commission recommending that without further revision to the proposal, the rezoning be denied. The Board concurred with the recommendation. M. Krippel moved to recommend to the Village Board that they deny the rezoning request on Case No. 165-92872, Chobar/Oreel Management. Seconded by W. Schempf. Roll call vote. Sobkoviak, yes; Schempf, yes; Krippel, yes; Bayer, yes; Simmons, yes. 5 yes, 0 no. Motion carried. 9:15 p.m. (A short recess was taken.) Chairman Simmons reconvened the meeting at 9:20 p.m. Public Hearing for Revision to the Zoning ordinance - Business Transition District. Ms. Fagan read the proposed B-5 District ordinance-and stated if the property is now zoned residential, it will stay residential. This district will overlay the existing district. It would be a zoning that could be applied if wanted. The map change area is between Main Street down to the plaza along 59 and to the cemetery; along Main Street on the south side only between the railroad tracks and Route 59. PLAINFIELD January 5, Page Four PLAN COMMISSION 1988 Ms. Fagan also stated that the goal behind the BT District is to protect the property owner from having, for instance, A- higher .commercial use develop. Whereas if someone wants to develop the proper ty along 59 commercial, they can do so, but only in a way that would blend into the residential area. That would be uses low in traffic, maintain the residential scale appearance and provide the types of requirements that would keep that business from being an intrusion on the residential area. Ms. Fagan read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Frederick H. Martens stating they agree in general with the proposed ordinance and attached a list of uses they feel meet the intent of the new classification and would present a minimal negative effect on adjacent residents and should be included in the list of allowed businesses. Ms. Fagan read a letter from John and Chere Bates where they state their opinion regarding limiting traffic, instituting buffer standards, and traffic standards. Also, Ms. Fagan stated she received a phone call from Mr. Richard Selfridge stating he was in favor of the BT District and it was part of his rezoning when he was granted relocation of the Corbin House. He was unable to attend the meeting tonight, but would like to discuss his comments on the proposal at a later time. Several residents were present expressing their feelings for and against the proposed ordinance. Some of the concerns discussed regarded types of businesses, screening in back of lots, access off of Route 59, value of the property, historic preservation, and traffic volume on Route 59. Ms..Fagan said the Business Transition District proposal does not include historic preservation. It is something we are interested in doing and it would be done as a separate ordinance. Mayor Latta stated the purpose of the BT zoning is to keep the zoning so that it can be residential with the hope of keeping the structure. The historical preservation ordinance, which needs to be done, will protect the integrity of the structure. After discussion, the Board agreed to add the additional services as stated in Mr. Martens letter to Item b. Under Item 5, change "light poles" to "pole lights" and add security lights. Add Item 10 on fencing requirement which is essentially a 6 foot fence along the rear property line. PLAINFIELD PLAN COMMISSION January 5, 1988 Page Five J. Sobkoviak moved to present Transition District ordinance H. Bayer. Roll call vote. Sobkoviak, yes; Schempf, yes; 5 yes, 0 no. Motion carried. to the Village Board the B-5 Business as amended tonight. Seconded by Krippel, yes; Bayer, yes; Simmons, yes. Case No. 168-1207872 - Petition of Alpha- Omega /Bethesda Lutheran Homes for rezoning from I-1 to R-4 for the purpose of constructing a group home for the developmentally disabled. The gentleman representing Alpha-Omega could not be present due to weather conditions. Ms. Fagan requested that this hearing be continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting of January 19, 1988. J. Sobkoviak moved to continue the Alpha-Omega public hearing to the next regularly scheduled meeting when their representative can be present. Seconded by W. Schempf. Roll call vote. Sobkoviak, yes; Schempf, yes; Krippel, yes; Bayer, yes; Simmons, yes. 5 yes, 0 no. Motion carried. Ms. Fagan reported on the hearing for the revision to the.zoning ordinance for signs. Due to the cancellation of the December 15th meeting, we cannot automatically continue the hearing, but we have to go through the legal notice and readvertisement. Given that time frame, the hearing would be at our February 2,"1988 meeting. H. Bayer moved to adopt the 1988 Plan Commission Meeting Schedule. Seconded by W. Schempf. Voice vote. 5 yes, 0 no. Motion carried. Adjourn: 10:45 p.m. Kay JargaySecretary plttT1T {iEl� GIITYCIYTIIYTIfu (�IIYTSIIfithTifE� �C4IIIIlS DISTRICT 202 • ADMINISTRATIVE CENTER 601 PLAZA DRIVE o PLAI NFI E LD, ILLINOIS 60544 ROLAND M. SMITH, SUPERINTENDENT January 4, 1988 Village Board Village of Plainfield 1400 North Division Street Plainfield, IL 60544 Dear Mayor Latta, Village Board, and Village Planning Commission: This letter is in regard to the January 5 hearing concerning the proposed Hardee's construction opposite Central School. The position of Plainfield School District 202 continues to be that if rezoning occurs, careful consideration should be given to the long-term safety of children and their parents as they go back and forth to school on Lockport Street.. In our October 1 letter to you, we asked for two specific considerations. The first referred to a visual barrier to avoid dangerous strangers parking at Hardee's to observe Plainfield children. Obviously, such a barrier should be aesthetically pleasing and should allow for an unobstructed view for motorists at the intersection of Lockport and Division Streets. Our second request was that traffic be prevented from turning into and out of the Hardee's parking lot on to Lockport Street during the times that children are going to and from all our schools, and buses are unloading-ch-4ldren.for Central School and reloading children for St. Mary's School.-. ' As that intersection becomes much busier in future years, planning should be made now which will prevent future accidents. We thank the Village Board and Planning Commission for your cooperation and for your consideration of our input. Sincerely yours, M. Smith Superintendent Richard G. Schleeter Principal, Central School RMS/ls 2 January 5, 1988 ' Plainfield Fire Protection District P.O. Box 12 703 N. Desplaines St. Plainfield, Illinois 60544 Business Phone 436-5442 Emergency Phone - Fire and Ambulance 436-2121 Village of Plainfield Attn: Deborah J. Fagan 1400 N. Division Street Plainfield, IL 60544 Re: *Hardee's Restaurant Proposal Alley and Highway Access Treatment Dear Ms. Fagan: We have reviewed the most recent (no date) site plan with planting schedule, as submitted by Oreel Management Group for the proposed Hardee's Restaurant at Lockport and Division Streets. Though dimensions and specification are minimal, the Plainfield Fire Protection District has no immediate objections to the treatment of access to the alley and curb-cut alignment at Illinois Highway 59. We have no further comments at this time but reserve the right to comment on fire prevention and life safety points when more detailed drawings and written specifications are presented, prior to the issuance of construction and occupancy permits. Please keep us advised Qf•any future actions and feel free to call this office if you have questions about our comments, above. Sincerely, PLAINFIELD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT t� a,,C-a Lj:-7 �� Edward E. Schrader, Fire Inspector EES:ci t IV t JAN 0 51988