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Home My Public Portal About1986-03-04 minutesVILLAGE OF PLAINFIELD PLAN COMMISSION Minutes of March 4, 1986 meeting. PRESENT: Herb Bayer, Vice-Chairman ABSENT: Jim Anderson Walt Schempf Rich Neely Bob Russ, Ex-Officio John Myers, Ex-Officio Mary Latta, Village President Dale Gullicksen, Trustee Liaison Walt Sharp, Trustee Karen Callanan, Trustee Steve Manning, Planner Arlo Simmons, Chairman.- Don Anderson Don Pearson Gene Cline, Ex-Officio Avon Arbo, Ex-Officio Si Hjemvick, Ex-Officio MINUTES: Minutes of February 18, 1986 were approved as presented. CASE 142-12986Z - AVERY CAR WASH REZONING Petitioner William Avery was present along with his representatives Tom Wilson, attorney and Dan Slagger of Great Lakes Distributing, suppliers of car washes. They presented a site plan showing a proposed car wash on the subject site located at 303 Division Street just south of the Mobil gas station. Avery would own and operate the car wash with an initial investment of about $325,000 not counting the property. He would move the 2-story house on the subject site to the next lot south where there is a 1-story house that would be demolished. Car wash hours would be from 9:00 a.m..to 7:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday and probably 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. on Sunday. There would be 2 to 6 employees. 200 customers on the average per day would be expected. They would want ground signs at the one entrance off Division Street and the two exits to Division and Joliet Streets and also wall signs. Vans, pickups and police squad cars would be able to go through wash. Price per wash would be $3.25 to $3.75. One oak tree on site would be retained. Fencing would be 6' high stockade along north and south property lines. No steam cleaning so not much grease would be collected. All cloth brushes. Noise to be heard at boundries of property would not be loud - less than traffic noise. Car wash cycle take 4 minutes. Water will be filtered, settled, and recycled, but will use 8 gallons of new water per bar- No water runoff into street but 8 gallons will be drained into sewer. There will be automatic blow dryers. Great Lakes Distributing has about 50 car washes and none has failed financially yet. Building would be concrete block, steel roof with mansard and 901 long. All washing and drying operations would be inside. Optional vacuum would be outside. Attendant will hand dry also. Plan Commission March 4, 1986 Page 2 RUSS - Radius of turn of driveway upto entry door (20') looks tight. Left turns entering site from southbound Division Street will block traffic back into the busy intersection. CALLANAN - 15 car stacking space on site does not appear to be enough.. Car wash on.Republic Street in Joliet has two to three block long line of cars. WILSON.- Claims that car wash in Plainfield will not get as many customers. SLAGGER -*There are sidewalks along both frontages now and about 15' of parkway between sidewalk and curb he thinks-. MANNING - Examples of othbr,B-3 uses include gas stations,, drug- stores, furniture retail, hardware stores, restaurant, auto sales, contractors shop, pool hall, bottling plant. WILSON - Car wash would increase property tax revenue and pay about $2400 a year in sales tax. NEELY - Would.supplying 10,000 gallons of water to this site be a problem? GULLICKSEN - No. SLAGGER - Peak hours will be 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. to 6:30 P.m. and all day Saturday. Usually fewer customers in winter. SCHEMPF - Afternoon peak hours will cause traffic jam on Division Street. MANNING - Site is surrounded by 4 houses zoned A, 1 house zoned B-2, 'and two businesses zoned B-2. MAN IN AUDIENCE - He would live in house south of car wash if moved by Avery and he claimed he would not be bothered by car wash. BAYER - There are no other B-3 districts nearby. MANNING -,Only B-3 allows car washes. The closest B-3 to subject site is two blocks south at Plainfield Plaza and four blocks north at Lockport and Division Streets. Most B-3 is downtown and west on Route 30. Presented Central Area Plan map from the Village's Comprehensive Plan. Subject site*is planned for residential. I think the best location for a car wash in Plainfield is in an existing B-3 district or where rezoning is appropriate and in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan. Plan Commission March 4, 1986 Page 3 BAYER - How many impulse customer? SLAGGER - Not many. RUSS - Have you looked at alternative sites? WILSON - No. SCHEMPF motioned to deny the request for rezoning. BAYER seconded. SCHEMPF, BAYER, ANDERSON voted aye. NEELY voted nay. NEW BUSINESS CALLANAN requested that the draft of the historic preservation ordinance be reviewed by Plan Commission as soon as possible. Meeting adjourned.