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HomeMy Public PortalAboutO'Boyle Transcript - Part 1In The Matter Of: MARTIN E. O'BOYLE v. TOWN OF GULF STREAM Deposition of MARTIN O'BOYLE September 15, 2014 Vol I DEBRA DURAN A S S O C I A T E S Registered Profe cional Reporters P.O. Box 2288 West Palm Beach, Florida 33402 561 - 313 -8000 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA CASE No.502014CA004474XXXXMB MARTIN E. O'BOYLE, Plaintiff, -vs- VOLUME I TOWN OF GULF STREAM, Defendant. VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MARTIN E. O'BOYLE TAKEN AT THE INSTANCE OF THE DEFENDANT Monday, September 15, 2014 9:50 a.m. - 5:47 p.m. 224 Datura Street Suite 1405 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Reported By: Debra Duran - Bornstein, RPR Notary Public, State of Florida Debra Duran & Associates 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APPEARANCES: On behalf of the Plaintiff: DANIEL DESOUZA, ESQUIRE DESOUZA LAW, P.A. 1515 N. University Drive Suite 209 Coral Springs, Florida 33071 NICK TAYLOR, ESQUIRE THE O'BOYLE LAW FIRM P.C., INC. 1286 West Newport Center Drive Deerfield Beach, Florida 33442 On behalf of Jonathan O'Boyle, William Ring & The O'Boyle Law Firm PC., Inc. CULVER SMITH, III, ESQUIRE CULVER SMITH III, P.A. 500 Australian Avenue South Suite 600 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Co- Counsel on behalf of the Defendant: ROBERT A. SWEETAPPLE, ESQUIRE SWEETAPPLE, BROEKER & VARKAS, PL 20 S.E. 3rd Street Boca Raton, Florida 33432 Co- Counsel on behalf of the Defendant: JOANNE O'CONNOR, ESQUIRE JONES, FOSTER, JOHNSTON & STUBBS 505 South Flagler Drive, Suite 1100 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ALSO PRESENT: William Ring, Esquire The O'Boyle Law Firm PC, Inc. Jason Peterson, Videographer Legal Graphicworks Doug Stacy, Videographer Scott Morgan, Mayor Town of Gulf Stream William Thrasher, Town Manager Town of Gulf Stream Christopher O'Hare Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I N D E X IWITNESS: DIRECT BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 6 CROSS REDIRECT RECROSS E X H I B I T S NUMBER DESCRIPTION PAGE DEFENDANT'S EX. 1 AFFIDAVIT 22 DEFENDANT'S EX. 2 TOWN COMMISSION MEETING 43 DEFENDANT'S EX. 3 PETITION TO GULF STREAM 68 SPECIAL MAGISTRATE COURT DEFENDANT'S EX. 4 6TH CIRCUIT OPINION RE: 72 O'BOYLE V SHULMAN ET AL DEFENDANT'S EX. 5 NEWSPAPER ARTICLE 100 DEFENDANT'S EX. 6 LAWSUIT FILED BY CITIZENS AWARENESS FOUNDATION 142 (Exhibit 6 was inadvertently taken and replaced) Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 `Se' 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 5 P R O C E E D I N G S Videotaped Deposition taken before Debra Duran - Bornstein, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, in the above cause. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are on the video record. This is the 15th day of September, 2014. The time is approximately 9:50 a.m. This is the videotaped deposition of Martin O'Boyle, in the matter of O'Boyle versus the Town of Gulf Stream. This deposition is being held at 224 Datura Street, suite 1405, West Palm Beach, Florida 33401. My name is Jason Peterson. I'm the videographer representing Legal Graphicworks. At this time would the attorneys please announce their appearances for the record? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Plaintiffs. MR. TAYLOR: Nick Taylor, here for the plaintiff. MR. DESOUZA: Dan DeSouza, on behalf of the plaintiff. MR. SMITH: Culver Smith, representing Jonathan O'Boyle, William Ring and the O'Boyle Law Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Firm. Page 6 MR. SWEETAPPLE: I believe Mr. Ring is also here. He is counsel. Is he appearing on his own behalf, or just as a party? MR.SMITH: He is a party to your motion. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm Robert Sweetapple on behalf of the Town of Gulf Stream. With me is Joanne O'Conner from Jones Foster, and Mayor Morgan is also in the deposition. MR. DESOUZA: And Mr. Thrasher. MR. SWEETAPPLE: And Mr. Thrasher is here as well. Thereupon, (MARTIN O'BOYLE) having been first duly sworn or affirmed, was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION THE WITNESS: I affirm to tell the truth. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Would you please state your name, sir. A. Martin E. O'Boyle. Q. And Mr. O'Boyle, what is your business address? A. 1280 West Newport Center Drive, Deerfield Beach, Florida. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 7 Q. And is that an office building or what type of premise is that? A. I would call it a flex building. Q. Flex building. All right. And how are you currently employed? A. I guess I'm not employed. Q. Okay. And are you associated with any entities for whom you perform services? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And what -- of those services, you are remunerated for or not remunerated for? A. You want to know if I've received any remuneration? Q. You said you are not employed. Are you working for compensation or for profit in any activities currently? A. I don't know how to answer the question. Q. Let me break it down for you this way. Before I do, I notice that you have a gentleman who is videotaping us. Who is that gentleman that I'm looking at there? A. If you're looking at Doug Stacy, it is Doug Stacy. Q. And who is Mr. Stacy? A. He is a man. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 8 Q. I understand. Is he in your employee in any -- directly or indirectly? A. No. Q. Does he work for any entity that you have an interest in? A. No. Q. Do you know why he is here? A. Yes. To videotape. Q. And who asked him to be here? A. I did. Q. You did. And he is here as a volunteer; he works without compensation? A. You know, I don't know. I never asked. Q. You don't know if he is working for you as an investigator and being compensated? A. I don't think he is working for me as an investigator. Q. Has he ever worked for you in any capacity? A. He has done things for me, yes. Q. Has he ever worked for any of your entities, any entity in which you have an interest? A. I think he has done things for entities that I have an interest. Q. And has he been compensated in the past by you or any entity in which you have an interest for any Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 �3ME 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 9 services he's provided? A. Not that I know of. Q. He's never received any compensation at all for any of his work that has involved you or your companies; is that correct? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I don't know. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You don't know, or he hasn't? A. I don't know. Q. Who would know that? Would Ms. De Larmartini know whether or not Mr. Stacy has been receiving money from any of your entities? A. She may. Q. Okay. And how do you communicate with Mr. Stacy? By e-mail, by text, verbally? A. Verbally. Q. Do you ever communicate with him by e-mail? A. I don't think so. Q. How about by text? A. I don't think so. Q. And he has come with you to city hall in the past; has he not? A. I don't think so. Q. Has he ever been with you and performed Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 10 filming at city hall? A. I don't think he's ever been to city hall. Q. Town Hall in Gulf Stream. A. I don't think so. Wait a second. He may have. Q. You say "might have." That is the second time you've said that. Have you ever had your deposition taken before, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I have. Q. How many times? A. I would say more than five. Q. More than ten or less than ten? A. I would say less than ten. Q. I presume you've been told the normal advice at the commencement of a deposition, but I'll go ahead and repeat those just in case. I'm looking for your personal knowledge based on any facts that you're aware of personally, not your opinions. You understand that, don't you? Do you understand that? A. You only want facts. Q. Right. You've written that down I see. A. Yes. Q. And have you ever been told that previously Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page I I when you've been deposed? A. Never. Q. And I'm not looking for your opinions; is that understood? A. I wrote "not opinion, only facts." Q. Right. And I'm not looking for you to speculate or guess, so if you don't know the answer to a question, please just tell me you don't know the answer. Don't tell me might be, may be, or guess. Is that understood? Is that understood, sir? A. I think so. Q. I see you're writing down some of the things that I'm pointing out to you. Is that your practice in depositions to write down things that the lawyer questioning you says in addition to videotaping him? A. I try to understand it, and the best way to do it is to sometimes have it in front of. Q. What is your educational background, sir? A. I went to the 11th grade. Q. You didn't go to the 12th grade? A. No. Q. I thought you dropped out of high school in 12th grade according to the materials you disseminated to the people in the Town of Gulf Stream. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. I finished the 11th grade. Q. What school did you finish 11th Grade? A. Collingswood High School. Q. What year did you finish the 11th grade? A. I think 168. Q. And did you pass the 11th grade? A. Yes. Page 12 Q. And you never started in 12th grade; is that correct? A. That's wrong. Q. Did you start 12th grade? A. Yes, I did. Q. And how far into 12th grade did you go? A. A little over six weeks. Q. You can read and write, correct? A. Yes. I can read and write. Q. Are you capable of answering my questions without writing every time I say something? A. I'm not sure. Q. Okay. Do you realize that if you proceed to write notes to yourself during this deposition, that will prolong this process? A. I'd rather have it take longer and do it right. Q. That's exact the way I feel. I want to make Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 13 sure we're on the same page. When I walked in the room, Mr. O'Boyle, I saw a picture of an Air Stream trailer, and it says "Sweetapple's Beach." I'm sure it's in the videotape if I step back. I'll move this box of my materials that I'll be questioning you about. Did you bring that with you here today? A. I did. Q. And did your attorneys see you bring that into this deposition? A. No. Q. And why did you bring that to this deposition? A. Because I think it fits in the overall scheme of what you're going to ask. Q. So you have anticipated what my questions are here today? A. I didn't say that. Q. And with regard to -- let's go back now with regard to my questioning of you. If I do ask you something that you don't understand, what I would like you to do is to wait until I conclude my question, and then tell me you don't understand and I'll rephrase it. Is that fair, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I assume when you say wait for him to finish, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 14 that's if I don't understand it. Q. No. You should wait for me to finish whether you understand or don't understand. Is that fair, Mr. O'Boyle? A. Yes. Q. And that by the same token, I should wait for you to finish, and I'll endeavor to do so. Is there any reason you're unable to give a deposition here today, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I don't feel too good, but besides that. Q. Are you under a doctor's care for any physical or mental impairments? A. I don't know that I want to go into the doctor /patient. Q. Is there any reason that you cannot give testimony here today; that you're unable to recall or to testify truthfully? A. Well, I'm pretty sure that I can truthfully testify to the best of my ability. Q. And you said you're not feeling well. If at any point you need to take a break in this deposition, please let me know and I will accommodate you. Is that fair? A. Yes. Q. Okay. Now, getting back to depositions, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 IN 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 15 please tell me each time that you recall having been deposed in a case. And if you could do it in a chronological order that would be helpful. And when I say "you" sir, I mean you individually and you in any representative capacity. A. Well, I can remember three of them. The most recent was a case called Campbell, that I would say it was within the last four to six months. Another one was with Longport, New Jersey, probably around the same period. And another one with a gentleman named Isen, and that was years ago. They're the three I can remember. Q. You can't remember any other cases that you've testified in? A. I can't. Q. That is in deposition. What about testifying in a proceeding in court? How often have you testified in a court proceeding, either individually or in a representative capacity? A. I testified before Judge Middlebrooks a year or two ago. Q. Any other cases? A. I can't think of any. Q. Now, the Campbell case, where was that case? A. New Jersey. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 16 Q. And were you individually a party? A. Yes. Q. Were you a plaintiff or a defendant? A. Plaintiff. Q. And when was that case filed? A. After hurricane Sandy. Q. What was the nature of the claims you brought? A. He was hired to protect my home; and my home was not protected, but there were plenty of empty liquor bottles and girls running around. Q. And did you go to trial in that case? A. No. Q. Did you settle the case? A. No. Q. Is the case still pending? A. Yes. Q. And you were deposed, you say, approximately four to six months ago? A. I think so. Q. In Longport, New Jersey, you didn't give me the style of the case you testified in. Do you remember the style of the case you testified in? A. I think it's O'Boyle versus Longport, but -- I think that's what it is. Q. And is that the only case that was pending in Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [:7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 17 New Jersey at that time, or did you have other lawsuits you brought in New Jersey in addition to that case? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Strike that. I'll rephrase it. You were the plaintiff, obviously, in O'Boyle versus Longport, right? A. Yes. Q. Were you a party to any other cases in New Jersey during the past five years? A. The Isen case, which I told you about. But that may have been longer than five years ago. And there were two OPRA cases. Q. That's a public records request case? A. Well, it's called OPRA public records. Q. That you were the plaintiff in? A. I'm not sure. Q. Okay. And you didn't testify in those cases? A. I did not. Q. Any other cases that you brought in New Jersey in the last five years? A. Not that I know of. Q. And the Isen case is a case that you brought against an individual for defamation? A. Yes. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 W, 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 18 Q. And you testified in that case? A. No. Q. You didn't testify at deposition in that case? A. Oh, deposition. Yes. Q. What about at trial? A. It never went to trial. Q. And are there any other cases that you can recall that you have testified in either in deposition or trial? A. No. Q. So as you sit here today, there is only four times that you can remember testifying? A. As I sit here right now, I've told you what I remember. Q. Okay. Now, can you tell me how many lawsuits you have been involved in either individually or in a representative capacity? A. I don't know what your question is. Q. How many lawsuits have you either individually brought as a plaintiff, or brought in a representative capacity on behalf of some entity in which you were associated; or have you been sued either individually or in a representative capacity in the last five years? A. I think I've answered the last five years. Q. Okay. What about the last seven years? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 19 A. I would be guessing. Q. Okay. Have you ever been involved in any litigation in Tennessee? A. Yes. Q. And can you tell me, were you a plaintiff or a defendant -- how many cases were you involved in, in Tennessee? A. I don't know. Q. Were you involved in more than one case in Tennessee? A. I don't know. Q. Were you a plaintiff or a defendant in the case in Tennessee? A. The case I'm thinking of, plaintiff. Q. And what case are you thinking of? A. It was New Midland Plaza Associates versus Four States Bank. Q. And what was the nature of that case? A. It was a lender liability case. Q. And you were a named plaintiff in the case? case? A. No. Q. And your wife was a named plaintiff in the A. No. Q. Who do you believe were the named plaintiffs Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 M 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 20 in the case? A. New Midland Plaza Associates. Q. And what court was that case in? A. I think it was Blount County State Court. But it may have been the federal court. I don't remember. I think it was Blount County. Q. Well, you litigated in Tennessee in both the state court and the federal court, didn't you, Mr. O'Boyle? A. Yes. Q. In fact, you sued a law firm in federal court, didn't you? A. Yes. Q. And A. Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, I didn't. I think New Midland Plaza Associates sued a law firm in the federal court. Q. You don't think you were a named plaintiff? A. I don't think I was a named plaintiff, no. Q. And you -- the entity was New Midland, you said? A. Uh -huh. Q. That's "yes ?" A. Yes, sir. Yes, it is. Q. One of the other admonitions I didn't give Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 21 you, I will try to remember, is please try to answer "yes" or "no" where you're attempting to do so and don't say "uh -huh" or "uh -uh." Is that understood? A. Yes. Q. Okay. What was your relationship with New Midland? A. I was a partner. Q. And the suit that you filed that you called a lender liability case, how long was that case pending? A. Seems forever. Q. Do you think it was pending for approximately seven years? A. I don't think it was that long. Q. Do you remember a case by the name of Martin E. O'Boyle, John E. O'Boyle, Catherine O'Boyle, Commerce Partnership No. 1147 and Commerce Partnership No. 1171 versus First Union National Bank, et al. It was a Blount County case. A. That's the one I just told you about. Q. But I thought you told me the plaintiffs' name was New Midland? A. I did. Q. Wasn't the actual plaintiff's name Martin E. O'Boyle, John E. O'Boyle, Catherine O'Boyle, just as I read to you? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 22 A. No. I don't believe so. Q. It wasn't. Okay. And in that litigation, you were sanctioned personally on multiple occasions; were you not? A. I don't think so. Q. Okay. And you were also held in contempt; were you not? A. I would have to see it. I would have to see it. Q. Let me show you an affidavit that was filed by the judge in that case, W. Dale Young. I'm marking it as Defendant's Exhibit 1. (Defendant's Exhibit No. 1 was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And I'm going to ask you if you've ever seen this document. I'll show it to your counsel, first. MR. DESOUZA: Bob, I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm not really sure how this has any relevance to your motion for sanctions or the merits of this case. If you want to explain to me how going through litigation from 2006 has some bearing to a public records lawsuit that was filed in 2014, I'm all ears. But I've been letting you go for a while on Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 this. I'm not sure I'm going to let you go much further. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Well, I'm not here to educate you and I'm certainly not here to tell you the standard of a deposition is certainly not relevance. And I'm planning on taking this deposition and I would appreciate it if you would just don't make any speaking objections. If you have an objection, please make it on the record. MR. DESOUZA: I'm giving you a chance, before I start instructing Mr. O'Boyle not to answer questions that have nothing to do with this case, I'm giving you the chance to explain to me why I shouldn't do that. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Well, you shouldn't do that because the law precludes it. And I'll be moving for sanctions against you and Mr. O'Boyle if you do it. MR. DESOUZA: Bob, I can't stop you from doing what you're going to do. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm going to take full discovery, Counsel. MR. DESOUZA: Full discovery of what? I don't want to be here at 10:00 p.m. tonight, Bob, as we're going through stuff from ten years ago Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 23 Im 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 24 because you feel like harassing the witness. So I'm asking you to actually ask some questions about this case. MR. SWEETAPPLE: This case is going to involve additional defenses. I'm taking discovery with regard to counterclaims that arise from this case, and other claims that arise from Mr. O'Boyle's actions in this case. And this is directly going to be very relevant when you get through with the questions I have for you today. You may know a lot more than you know now, Counsel. So just bear with me. I think you will become very educated as this litigation proceeds. MR. DESOUZA: Thank you for that, Bob. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, looking at Exhibit 1, does that refresh your recollection as to litigation you were involved in, in Tennessee personally? MR. DESOUZA: You can answer the question whether that refreshes your recollection or not. THE WITNESS: Say your question again. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Does that document that I've handed you refresh your recollection as to litigation that you were Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 25 personally involved in, in Tennessee? A. Well, the affidavit at the beginning of it is bogus. on. MR. DESOUZA: You need to put your mic back THE WITNESS: Pardon? MR. DESOUZA: Your mic fell off. THE WITNESS: What was the question again? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Does that document refresh your recollection as to whether or not you were a plaintiff in litigation in Tennessee? A. The affidavit is -- I don't believe is a valid affidavit, and so it does nothing for me. Q. Okay. So as you sit here, do you recall being a plaintiff in litigation in Tennessee? A. Yes. I already -- the styling of the case was New Midland Plaza Associates versus -- it went from Core States Bank to another bank, to another bank, to -- I think it ended up at First Union Bank. This document shows New Midland Plaza Associates versus Core States. And this is a memorandum from the judge dated November 2nd, 2006. Q. And are you aware whether or not any court in Tennessee stated, "The court finds that O'Boyle's Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 26 intent, purpose, and strategy in pursuing his claims was to conduct this litigation in a manner which had the maximum financial impact on defendants. The purpose and strategy manifests itself in O'Boyle's repeatedly making arguments and taking positions irrespective of their merits that would maximize the inconvenience and cost to defendants." Do you recall ever seeing that in any order written by a judge in Tennessee with reference to you personally? A. Just so it's -- I don't know what the judge means by that -- but just so it's clear, I never appeared before this judge one time. I never testified before this judge one time. So I don't know exactly what he means. Now, as an example, when we look at your testimony before Judge Olsen, it has, I think, much worse statements, but.... Q. Excuse me. What testimony before Judge Olsen are you referring to? I don't think I've ever testified before Judge Olsen. A. Well, let me give it to you. Q. You're talking about a motion I filed? A. Motion, whatever. I don't know what it was. Q. Are you talking about a motion to recuse that Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Pate 27 I filed? A. I don't know. Would you like me to get it for you? Q. Sure. Why don't you get it. COURT REPORTER: Watch your mic. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Could you also get a picture of this sign, if you don't mind? I'll move the box, yes. MR. DESOUZA: Marty, you're still on the record. Don't answer any phone calls. MR.SMITH: Put the phone down, Marty. THE WITNESS: One second, please. (Discussion on phone.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So I understand you, Mr. O'Boyle, you're likening the court statement -- you're likening your sanctions that were entered against you in Tennessee to a motion I filed. Is that your position, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I'll answer you in just a moment. Q. Okay. A. I didn't find -- I have it here, by the way. I didn't find -- I didn't hit, I should say, Judge Olsen's statements. However, what I did find -- Q. You personally found? A. What did you say? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 28 Q. You said you found something. You personally found something? A. Yeah, I just found it. It was right there. Q. Okay. But you're the one that did the research to find these documents or you had someone else do that? A. I had someone else do it. Q. Who was that? A. I think it was a couple of people who did that. Q. Who would those people be? A. I think one of them was a young lady that works with me named Kelly Huang, and the other one I don't remember. Q. And are these lawyers that have the ability to research cases and documents, or were these just secretaries? A. These were lawyers. Q. Lawyers. Okay. Good. So tell me why you think something that I filed in a case is the same or relates in any way to a court in Tennessee finding you personally in contempt? MR. DESOUZA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: Well, this is a -- sorry. MR.SMITH: Go ahead. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 29 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I'm all ears, Mr. O'Boyle. Please. A. This is a case titled John W. Temple versus Robert A. Sweetapple, Esquire and Robert A. Sweetapple, Q. You were talking about Judge Olsen. A. Just -- you aren't listening. I answered that I haven't come to Judge Olsen, but I just saw this, and this has things that may be more -- that may be closer. That's what I said. Q. You're talking about a complaint that was filed by an opposing party in a divorce case against me; a complaint by opposing spouse in a divorce case. A. I don't know what it's -- what kind of case it is. I can only read you the provisions that have been highlighted for me such as "Sweetapple stated that he would drag out the litigation in this case for years if Temple did not agree to the demands of his client." Q. And do you know what happened with that lawsuit? A. I do not, no. Q. Do you know if it was dismissed? A. No. No, I don't know. Q. Let's go -- you provided that to Mayor Morgan; did you not? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 30 A. No. Q. Did anyone in your office send that or deliver that to the Town of Gulf Stream for purposes of putting it in the town records? A. Someone in my office, perhaps even myself, would have sent it to Gulf Stream to put into the town records where it belongs. Q. Perhaps yourself, or it was you, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I don't know. Q. You can't remember if you did that last week? A. No. Q. Your memory is that faulty? A. I'm not going to answer that. Q. Why can't you remember if you did it last week? A. I answered your question. Let's move on. Q. It happened last week. Do you know who did it? A. I understand that. Q. Do you know who did it? MR. DESOUZA: Objection three times now. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Asked and answered Q. Mr. O'Boyle, do you know who did it if it wasn't you? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 M 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 31 MR. DESOUZA: All right. You're bordering on harassing the witness at this point. He's already said "I don't know" three or four times, Bob. Move on. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, was this sent -- from which office was this sent last week? A. I assume it would have been my office. Q. What is "my office ?" A. The one where you asked me up front where my office was. 1280 West Newport Center Drive. Is your memory that bad? Q. That's a building. It wasn't sent from a building. It was sent from some entity, I take it. A. I have no idea, then. Q. What entities occupy that building, Mr. O'Boyle? A. There's about 100 of them. Q. One hundred entities? A. Yeah. Q. And they're all tenants in that building? A. Pardon? Q. They're all tenants in that building? A. They have the right to be there. Q. And are these companies and LLCs that occupy Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 I 2 3 4 5 no 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 �31M 15 16 17 iE 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 32 the building? A. And then some. Q. Are you affiliated with all of those entities? A. Probably not. Q. How many of those entities are you affiliated with? A. I don't know. Q. And which entity do you understand sent materials regarding me to the Town of Gulf Stream? A. I already answered that. Q. Which entity? Do you know which entity? A. I already answered that question. Q. What was your answer? I don't remember. A. My answer was I don't know. Q. And was that done by correspondence? A. I answered your question. Q. Did you have any communications with anyone regarding that topic? MR. DESOUZA: Which topic? MR. SWEETAPPLE: The topic of sending documents regarding me to the Town of Gulf Stream. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Did you talk to anyone in any of the offices or any of the entities that occupied that building about Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 33 that topic? A. No. Q. And so what other information did you want to remark that you believe was similar to your being sanctioned and held in contempt by a judge in Tennessee on multiple occasions? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I don't understand your question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. You indicated that I testified or did something with Judge Olsen that somehow was equivalent to the sanctions that were entered against you in Tennessee. MR. DESOUZA: Is there a question pending? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Yes. I'm waiting for him to tell me what it is he wanted to tell me. He had something he wanted to make a point about. I'm letting him do so. A. The case was Trafford Distributing versus Wortley. And Mr. Sweetapple, you represented Wortley. "An expedited hearing was conducted on March" -- I'm sorry. "August 26, 2010 at 1:30 p.m." Q. August 26, 1:30. What year? A. 2010. Would you like a copy? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 34 Q. I'm well familiar with the case, Mr. O'Boyle. A. Okay. Then you shouldn't ask questions. At 1:30 p.m. Q. I would like it on the record, Mr. O'Boyle. A. It's going right in. Q. We need to put the dates and the years when we talk about dates is what we normally do. A. "At 1:30 p.m. And movant's counsel argued that I should henceforth recuse myself from any proceeding in which Ruden McClosky represents a party. Because the case law interpreting 28 USC 455 consistently rejects this argument, I ruled from that bench that the motions would be denied, and I would enter in this formal written order detailing my assessment. "Any strongly worded language in my orders or in the courtroom has resulted from astonishment at how the defendants have chosen to handle certain affairs over the past decade and, particularly, in the months preceding this bankruptcy filing. Rather, they argue that his employment combined with my rulings against him, are sufficient basis to engage in a fishing expedition. That the movants filed these motions in the face of such overwhelming case law on the subject is surprising. The cases go on and on, and just as I have Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 35 a duty to su esponte recuse myself when a disqualifying factor comes to light, I also have a duty to retain a case when faced with a meritless recusal motion. "And this is no joke. This is quite literally what the movants are asking for. Their misunderstanding of 455 was painfully betrayed at the August 26th hearing, when movant's counsel forcefully recused that -- or argued that I should recuse myself from any matter in which Ruden Barnett -- Ruden Barnett McClosky represents a party. Whether movant's counsel did not adequately research the case law on this subject or simply did not digest it, I do know -- I do not know, but fiery, impassioned oral argument in the face of a glass mountain of precedent with no acknowledgment of that glass mountain and no hint at a good faith basis for a change in the law. "This is normally sanctionable under P9011(b). The only reason why sanctions are not warranted here, despite this appalling lack of diligence is the layman perception rule. "I further find that no well- informed, thoughtful and objective observer would argue that a sitting federal judge should recuse himself from every matter in which his spouse's firm represents a party. So long as, (1) the spouse is not involved in the case; Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 No 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 36 (2), the spouse is not an equity partner in the firm; (3), the guidelines imposed by Congress and 455(b) are otherwise followed. The motion to recuse judge filed by defendant, Barbara Wortley, in an adversary proceeding gives the proceeding 0801793 -JKO is accordingly denied." Q. And who did you have research that case for you, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I told you, Kelly, and I think one other person. But I just don't remember. Q. Did you ever become aware of the facts of that case? A. I read the opinion. Q. Well, did you follow what happened in that case, Mr. O'Boyle? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I read the opinion. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. That opinion? A. Yes. Q. And are you suggesting that somehow that opinion asserts that I have done something wrong? A. I'm asserting that opinion says what it says. Q. Okay. And are you aware that an appeal of the refusal of Judge Olsen to recuse himself in that case Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 37 was filed and argued and hearings were had before the Honorable Fredrick Moreno, the chief judge of the Southern District of Florida? A. No. Q. Okay. So your lawyer didn't look to see if there was an appeal filed of that order almost immediately after the recusal was denied? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Your lawyer -- MR. DESOUZA: Hold on, Bob. Are you asking him about conversations with counsel? Because he is not going to answer those questions. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't want to know what your counsel told you. MR. DESOUZA: Do you want him to tell you what -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: You're making a speaking objection. MR. DESOUZA: Hold on, Bob. You want him to tell you what his lawyer did. I'm afraid that's privileged. He is not going to answer that. So, no, he is not going to answer those questions. MR. SWEETAPPLE: First of all, there is no "those questions" pending. There is no question Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 38 pending other than the one I asked. Second of all, you're making speakings objections again. Next time you do it, I will file a motion for sanctions against you. MR. DESOUZA: I don't care what you do, Bob. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Invoke the -- MR. DESOUZA: Bob, I don't care what -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: Please don't interrupt me. MR. DESOUZA: If you want to excuse the witness and then have a conversation, so you don't have to sit here and complain about speaking objections or coaching, whatever, I'm happy to do that. Otherwise, let me finish, and then you ask your question. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I've already put my statement on the record, Counsel, as to how I'm not going to tolerate anymore speaking objections. MR. DESOUZA: What is your question? MR. SWEETAPPLE: And you have not made one legal objection on the record yet today. Mr. O'Boyle -- MR. DESOUZA: Well -- BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, did you ever obtain from your attorneys a notice of appeal of that ruling by Judge Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 17 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 39 Olsen? MR. DESOUZA: You can answer yes or no. THE WITNESS: If I did, I don't recall. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Do you know what the underlying facts were that were alleged in that motion? A. Yeah. Generally stated. Q. Do you realize that there were allegations that my opposing counsel, during the course of the case, hired the judges fiance, who moved down and moved in with the judge during that time period; those are alleged in the motions. Do you recall that? A. Obviously the judge was not very impressed with your argument. Q. Well, are you aware that Judge Moreno made certain statements on the record at a status conference immediately after that hearing, and Judge Olsen thereafter su esponte recused himself. Are you aware of that, sir? A. I am not. I don't know what Judge Olsen said. All I know is courts speak through orders. Q. Are you aware that he immediately, after that order, entered an order recusing himself, sir? A. I am not aware of that, and I don't know why he did it. It may be he was going on a trip around the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 world. I don't know. Page 40 Q. And are -- did you read the front page of the Daily Review that discussed this case in length and went over the facts of this case? A. I don't read the Daily Review. Q. Are you aware there is a pending federal case now against the lawyer, and both lawyers that were involved in the allegations of that motion to recuse, sir? A. I don't think I am. I might be. Q. Okay. Is there any other -- tell me, why did you have lawyers research me and my legal work? A. Why did you do an investigation on my son? Q. Because he alleges to be your attorney in this proceeding, and he alleges to be a bona fide -- to be part of a bona fide law firm; and whether or not you are represented by a bona fide law firm and have an entitlement to attorneys' fees is one of the issues in all of the cases that your lawyers have brought. And that's just one of the issues that you'll see relate to your alleged son's law firm, or your son's alleged law firm. MR.SMITH: Let me just state for the record on behalf of Jonathan O'Boyle, I do not believe that he alleges that he is counsel of record in this Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 1 case. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 41 MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't think he does, but I think we're going to see that he has -- certainly there are issues with regard to that very point and whether or not the O'Boyle Law Firm is a bona fide law firm that is entitled to obtain or seek attorneys' fees. And I intend to take discovery with regard to that issue from this witness and other witnesses, as well as other issues with regard to that law firm that I believe are of very significant importance. MR. DESOUZA: Is this your opening or your closing statement, Bob? I'm not sure I heard a question yet. MR. SWEETAPPLE: It was my answer to your client's question, Counsel. I was obligating myself to answer your client's question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, so you investigated me because I have filed a motion -- I filed a motion with regard to your son's law firm. A. No. Q. Why did you investigate me? A. We didn't investigate you. Q. Why did you have a lawyer look at -- did you Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 42 have a lawyer research me, my legal work? A. We had a lawyer doing some research up at the county building, and I said just for the hell of it -- MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. I don't want you to testify about statements that you said to your lawyers. THE WITNESS: Okay. MR. DESOUZA: So if you can answer the question without revealing any sort of attorney - client communication you can; otherwise, I don't want you answering the question. THE WITNESS: Okay. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So why did you investigate me? A. I didn't. Q. So it was just a coincidence that you found the Judge Olsen recusal order? A. I didn't find it. Q. It's just a coincidence you asked an attorney to -- strike that. An attorney provided that to you, correct? MR. DESOUZA: You can answer yes or no. THE WITNESS: Yes. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And one of your lawyers who was in the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 lim 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 43 courthouse learned a little bit about me, right? Is that what happened? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I can't tell you what happened. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You can't. You don't know that one of your attorneys was in the courthouse and learned a little bit about me? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You've never stated that before? A. If I did, I stated it erroneously. Q. You stated it erroneously? A. Yes. Q. Let me show you the transcript of the city -- of the town commission meeting, 6/13/14 before Gulf Stream. I'm marking that as Exhibit 2, if you can mark that please. MR. DESOUZA: Bob, I'm sorry. Is there multiple copies of that affidavit, or just the one? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Just the one. (Defendant's Exhibit No. 2 was marked for identification.) Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 44 THE WITNESS: Okay. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Does this transcript of this document fairly recite your statements made to the town council on 6/13/14? A. I can't say. I would have to look at the video to say. However, I did correct it at the next meeting. Q. Okay. And you see where it says exactly what I just put in the record and was objected to and you said it was erroneous? You said here -- let me read it to you exactly. We -- "one of my lawyers was in the courthouse and learned a little bit about Mr. Sweetapple ". I just asked you if that occurred; if you ever said that and you said, no, that would be erroneous, right? A. If that's what I said, then that's what I said. Q. Okay. So you did say at the meeting that one of your lawyers just happened to be in the courthouse and learned a little bit about me, right? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. THE WITNESS: No. No. That's what you said. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Pardon? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 45 A. That's what you said. Q. I'm reading to you from this document. A. I understand that. The minutes from this town, they leave a lot to be desired. I don't know. All I know is that the Judge Benton portion of it, I made an error; and of course you have a mayor who will not let you ask questions. And so what I did was the very next meeting I went and I said, What I said about Mr. Sweetapple, I erred. Q. Well, I'm talking now about the fact that you said that there was a lawyer in the courthouse, one of your lawyers. What lawyer was in the courthouse that you're referring to here? A. I think, I'm not sure, I think it was -- I think it was Kelly Huang. Q. Okay. And then you said that he had a case in the First District Court of Appeals before Judge Benton. How did this lawyer locate the case that was in the First District in Tallahassee in the Palm Beach County Courthouse? MR. DESOUZA: If by answering that you have to reveal conversations you had between you and this lawyer... BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let me rephrase it for you. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 46 The courthouse you're referring to when you spoke before town council, was that the Palm Beach County Courthouse? A. I'm sorry. Q. Was that the Palm Beach County Courthouse? A. It was what at the Palm Beach County Courthouse? Q. Which courthouse did this lawyer go to where she just happened to learn a little bit about Mr. Sweetapple? MR. DESOUZA: Again, if the only way you know this is from conversations with counsel, then I need you to indicate if that's the only way you know it. THE WITNESS: Okay. That's the only way I know it. (Mr. O'Hare just entered the deposition.) MR. DESOUZA: I'm instructing the witness not to answer. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Let the record reflect Mr. O'Hare has come into the room. I don't know if he's staying for the deposition or not, but there he is. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So were you attempting to communicate to the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 47 town council that your attorney had found the Benton case at the courthouse? A. Could you repeat the question? Q. Do you have any idea how this alleged decision before Judge Benton was located from the First District Court of Appeal? MR. DESOUZA: You can answer yes or no. THE WITNESS: (Conferring with attorney.) What was your question again? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Do you have any knowledge as to how this case regarding Judge Benton was located in the courthouse? A. No. Q. And you stated to my client that Judge Benton found that Mr. Sweetapple consistently misrepresented testimony. Did you read this opinion before you made that statement? A. I told you, I erred in what I said. Those words are in that opinion. Would you like me to read them for you? Q. Mr. O'Boyle, I -- A. Would you like me to read them for you? Q. Mr. O'Boyle -- A. Would you like me to read them for you? Q. I'm trying to ask you a question. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 a 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 48 A. Would you like me to read them for you? MR. DESOUZA: Let him finish the question. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Would you please read back the question I asked Mr. O'Boyle? I think it had to do with you reading, sir, not me. Listen to the question. (A portion of the record was read by the reporter.) THE WITNESS: I did not read the opinion. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. And then you said that he also found that I failed to acknowledge well - established case law including Supreme Court precedence. Did you read that language regarding me before you erred in that statement? A. You're talking about the statement that I went back to the commission and said I made the statement erroneously, I apologize, and here's correctly what it says? Are you talking about that statement? Q. I'm talking about the statement, sir, on 6/13/14. A. I don't know which statement you're making. Q. Well, where you said that I failed to acknowledge well - established case law including Supreme Court precedence. Did you read -- strike that. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 49 Did you read any of Judge Benton's opinion before you went to the commission on June 13, 2014? Or did you just go based on what someone told you. MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Can you answer that question? Did you read the opinion at all before you went into the commission meeting on 6/13/2014? Yes or no, please. Do you know the answer? Are you able to answer the question yes or no, Mr. O'Boyle, as to whether or not you read Judge Benton's opinion before you attended the council meeting on June 13, 2014? Certify that question. I'll just move on to the next area. I'll ask the court to bring Mr. O'Boyle back to answer any question that he is delaying on and -- MR. DESOUZA: Are you suggesting he's refusing to answer you, because I don't think he's done that. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I asked him if he can answer yes or no as to whether or not he's told me he didn't read it before he said -- THE WITNESS: The answer is I can answer yes or no. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 50 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. So you don't recall? A. I just said the answer is I can answer yes or MFvU*V Q. What is your answer to my question? A. I'll let you know. Q. Okay. You still need more time to tell me whether or not you read it or not? A. Yes. Yes. Q. In other words, you have to read the opinion to refresh your recollection? A. I'm not going to answer that question. Q. Let's move on to the next question, Mr. O'Boyle. You said also at the meeting that "Mr. Sweetapple's noncompliance with state statute Chapter 119 for public records." Do you recall saying that, sir? Do you want to take a look at Exhibit 2? A. I remember that. Q. And then you said, "He redacted portions of his bill. And anyone who knows anything about public records knows if you're going to redact you have to tell under which exception..." Do you recall making that statement? A. I don't recall making that exact statement, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 51 but I recall making a statement that would have been very similar to that, if not that exact statement. Q. And why did you believe I had redacted any of my bills? A. Because you did. Q. I did? On what basis do you believe I redacted any bills? A. Every time I asked for them over at town hall they said, we're waiting for Mr. Sweetapple to redact them. Q. And that makes you believe I did the redactions? A. Unless they're all liars. Q. Do you know whether or not I instructed the town's council to go ahead and redact, rather than me, when I was asked because I deemed it was the town's attorney's decision as to what was a public record, not mine? A. It was your bill. I was told by the town that you were redacting it. That's what I relied on. Q. So you made a public statement based on that; that I was in noncompliance with a state statute because I had redacted portions of my bill, correct? A. I made the statement that I made, based upon good faith information that I received from (a), your Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 M 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 52 bill; and (b), from the town. Q. And who in the town told you that I was going to redact my bills? A. I believe it was Kelly Avery. Q. And did she tell you I had redacted them? A. I don't know. Q. And when was that conversation? A. I don't remember. Q. Have you had any other conversations about my bill with the town? A. Yes. Q. What other conversations have you had regarding my bills? A. Last week, when Mr. Thrasher put his nose up against the lens of my camera. Q. And has anyone at town hall ever told you that I was involved in redacting my bills? A. Ms. Avery. Q. Ms. Avery told you I had redacted my bills, or I was going to? A. I took it -- I don't remember the exact words, but I took it as you were going to. Q. Now, you say -- and why did you go to the Town of Gulf Stream on June 13, 2014 and make the statements about me? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 53 A. I don't know that I did go on June 13, 2014. Q. Assuming that that's the date of the meeting that you're reading from. A. I'm not reading from any meeting. Q. I've handed you a copy of Exhibit 2. It is right here, sir. A. Uh -huh. Q. Why did you go to the town on that day and make these comments? A. Because I thought the people in the town should realize what is going on in this town; how this town is being -- my words -- raped. Q. And so you thought I was part of some rape of the town? A. I answered the question. Whether you were part of the rape, I don't really know, but you sure weren't giving away anything. Q. Hmm? A. You sure weren't giving away anything. Mr. Morgan, he sits up there and he preaches about how he defends these public records lawsuits. He doesn't defend them. You don't defend them. You're aggressively pursuing extraneous, I guess, lawsuits, motions, whatever you want to call it. I don't know what the answer is. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 54 And I want the people to know, and I wish I could get more people to know, and I wish I could get more people to listen, and I wish I could get more people to say we've had enough. Q. And so you went there to that meeting. Did you know the meeting was televised when you went there? A. Televised. Q. Did you know that the meeting -- strike that. Did you know the meeting -- was the meeting videotaped? A. Yes. It was two videotapes. Q. And do you know if those videotapes play on any television stations? A. No, I do not. Q. And so you went to that meeting for the purpose of attacking me. You called -- strike that. You see where you called me literally a "hotshot lawyer ?" A. Well, you are. Q. And you went there knowing that you considered me a hotshot lawyer, but you went there to impugn me, right? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. THE WITNESS: No. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 55 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Wasn't that your intent in making these statements, to impugn me? A. No. No. Q. Didn't you do that after I filed a motion to disqualify the O'Boyle Law Firm in this case; within a week of my filing -- strike that -- within a week of your meeting with Mr. Ring regarding a motion that I had filed to disqualify your son's law firm? A. No. I would have done it anyway. MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let me rephrase. MR. DESOUZA: Object to form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I'll rephrase it. I'm not sure if I flunked high school English or high school history. I think it was history. It was college, freshman year, it should have been English, though. I'll rephrase it. Do you recall that I filed, on behalf of the town, a motion to disqualify your son's law firm alleging that it is not a bona fide interstate law firm? THE WITNESS: An absolute crime, yes, I do. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. It was a crime? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 56 A. I think it was a crime you filed that. Yes, I 0 r m Q. So you think I've committed a crime? A. I think you've committed a crime by filing that, yes, sir. And Ms. O'Connor as well. Q. What crime do you think I've committed? A. I say a crime in the generic sense. I think there's a litigation -- what do you call it -- litigation privilege, so you can't be -- it can't be a crime. But I think what you did to my son in my world, Marty O'Boyle's world, Marty O'Boyle's definition, I think it's a crime. Q. And you've had your son appear on your behalf to represent you as a lawyer, haven't you, before Gulf Stream? MR. DESOUZA: Sorry. You kind of trailed off at the end there, Bob. You said with respect to Gulf Stream or? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Yeah. Let me -- you had a case in the Town of Gulf Stream and you had your son appear on your behalf and file a memo where he indicated he was an attorney at law, didn't you? MR.SMITH: Object to the form. THE WITNESS: No. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 57 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. No? A. No. MR. DESOUZA: I'm sorry, Bob, I have to use the restroom. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Why don't we take a break. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 11:01 a.m., we're going off the record. (At 11:01 a.m. a recess was taken.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is approximately 11:20 a.m. We're back on the record. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I believe we left off, Mr. O'Boyle, where you were indicating that my assertions that the O'Boyle Law Firm and your son are engaged in the unlawful practice of law in the state of Florida was a crime. And I want to follow up on that -- that statement that you made. Are you aware -- well, strike that. You were aware that there was no O'Boyle Law Firm in the state of Florida in July of 2013, right? A. No, I wasn't. Q. Right. There was not one, right? A. No. I said I was not aware. Q. Well, was there an O'Boyle Law Firm in Florida? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 58 A. I was not aware. Q. When was the O'Boyle Law Firm formed in Florida? A. I'm not aware. Q. You don't know? A. No. Q. Well, are you aware whether or not the O'Boyle Law Firm occupies any space at 1280 West Newport Center Drive, the building you described in the beginning of your deposition? A. They do not. Q. Are they -- they don't occupy -- they're not in that building? A. No. Q. Where are they located? A. 1286 West Newport Center Drive. Q. Is that the same building that your offices are in? A. Depends what's the same building is, but I would say yes. Q. Who is the record owner of that building? A. It's a limited partnership. Q. What is the name of it? A. I don't know. Q. You don't know who the limited partnership Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 59 owner of the building is? A. I do not. Q. And how long has that partnership owned the building? A. Twenty- something years. Q. And the O'Boyle Law Firm became a tenant in that building at some point? A. Yes. Q. When did they become a tenant? A. I don't recall. Q. Was it, when it was formed in February of 2014? A. I don't think so. Q. Does the O'Boyle Law Firm have a lease with the owner of the premises? MR.SMITH: Excuse me, Bob. I think this is totally irrelevant to the merits of the case or motion for sanctions as it pertains to the O'Boyle Law Firm and its private matters. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't think so at all. I think it's clearly going to go to my defense of whether or not it's a bona fide firm and whether or not we owe any fees to this alleged firm, which will be one of the defenses I'm going to be asserting in all of these cases. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 Page 60 MR.SMITH: Well, thus far those are unplead 2 1 defenses. 3 4 5 in 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SWEETAPPLE: Well, I am entitled to take discovery of anything that's calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence, and I'm planning on amending my pleadings, so. MR. SMITH: Actually, you're incorrect about that. Discovery has to be relevant. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I think that's not the standard for questions in deposition. But let's go forward. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, does the O'Boyle Law Firm -- you're represented by the O'Boyle Law Firm in this case, right? A. Yes. Q. Do you know what this case -- which case we're here on? A. O'Boyle versus Gulf Stream. Q. And do you know what the facts of that case are? A. Yes. It's in connection with March 3rd and 4th, or March 3rd, 4th and 5th, I think, 2014, where the Town of Gulf Stream stole my signs. Q. So this is a case you believe that has to do Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 No 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 61 Now -- Q. Sort of. A. You're asking me to have it memorized and I don't. I'm giving you the best answer I can. Q. What -- it's a public records request case, right? A. Yes. Q. And what records were requested in the case that you're being deposed on here today? A. I'd have to see the Complaint. Q. You didn't look at the Complaint before your deposition? A. I didn't memorize it. Q. Did you look at it at all? A. Yes. Q. Do you remember anything that was in your Complaint that you sued the town over? A. Yeah. I think March 3rd and March 4th, or March 4th and March 5th and signs. Q. All right. And in your Complaint you seek fees for a law firm by the name of the O'Boyle Law Firm, correct? A. I'm not sure if that's true or not, but... Q. Okay. Well, you are represented by the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 NEI 21 22 23 24 25 Page 62 O'Boyle Law Firm in this case, correct? A. I am. Q. And there is a prayer for attorneys' fees; is there not? A. I believe there is. Q. Okay. And do you have any agreement employing the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I believe I do. Q. Is it a written agreement? A. I don't know. Q. You don't know if you have a written agreement? What are the terms of your agreement that you believe you have with the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I don't know. Q. And who was your agreement with at the O'Boyle Law Firm? Which lawyer? MR. DESOUZA: I'm sorry, Bob, are you talking about with respect to this case? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Yes, with respect to just this case. MR. DESOUZA: I couldn't figure that out. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. With regard to this case, who was your agreement with regarding the O'Boyle Law Firm Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 63 representing you? MR. DESOUZA: Thank you. THE WITNESS: I don't know. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And have you ever seen any written agreement with the O'Boyle Law Firm regarding you being represented individually? A. I don't know. Q. Is the O'Boyle Law Firm -- does the O'Boyle Law Firm have any written agreements with you or any of your entities such as leases or otherwise? Any other financial transactions between you and the O'Boyle Law Firm other than them being your lawyer? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: Are you talking about in this case, or in every case in the world? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Not with regard to cases. I want to know what your financial arrangements and dealings with the O'Boyle Law Firm are. MR.SMITH: Excuse me. That's really going -- that's irrelevant. That is going far afield. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let me break it down for you. I'll break it down for you. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 64 Have you received any bills from the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR.SMITH: In this case? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Regarding this case. A. I believe we have paid the O'Boyle Law Firm. Whether we have received bills or credits or debits, I don't know. Q. You paid them attorneys' fees to the O'Boyle Law Firm, or loaned money to the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR.SMITH: Excuse me. Whether he's loaned money to the O'Boyle Law Firm is irrelevant to any of the claims in this case. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't think so. I think tc the extent there's the unlawful practice of law going on and Mr. O'Boyle's involved in it, I think it's going to be part of some of my counterclaims in this case, and some of the claims we're going to be bringing. MR. DESOUZA: Regarding the O'Boyle Law Firm. MR.SMITH: You're engaging in a fishing expedition, Bob. MR. SWEETAPPLE: No, I'm not. I want to know what his relationship is with his attorneys in this case. He's filed dozens of cases in his name and Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 �n Page 65 hundreds in the name of entities that he has formed and funded that are occupying the same space as the law firm and run by the same people as the law firm. And I'm entitled to find out what his relationship is with this law firm, which I maintain is not a licensed law firm. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, have you paid -- have you received any statements? Let's go back to that, because you didn't answer my question. Have you received any statement from the O'Boyle Law Firm regarding this case, services rendered in this case? A. First, let me correct that I think we've filed nine or 12, not hundreds and hundreds of lawsuits. Q. Well, Mr. O'Boyle, I'm going to get into all of your alter egos like the Citizens Awareness Foundation and other entities that you are intimately involved in and funded later on. So when I say "you," I'm referring to you and all of your entities that you have formed and are funding and are running with your personnel, including your lawyers and employees. MR. DESOUZA: I'm going to object to these running statements that go on. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 66 MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm just answering your client's question, Counsel. MR. DESOUZA: No. You're characterizing alter egos and making openings and closings on the record. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. We'll get to that. Mr. O'Boyle, let's try again. If I can get an answer I won't have to explain myself to you. Have you received any billings from the O'Boyle Law Firm with regard to the services that have been rendered or are being rendered in this case? A. I have not received any billings from any law firm or any vendor. I don't get that information. Q. Who would -- you personally, if you were billed for services on this case, who would get those bills? A. I can't answer you. Q. You don't know? A. No. Q. What was your agreement with the O'Boyle Law Firm as to how you would be billed in this case? A. I don't recall. Q. Do you agree to have them represent you on an hourly basis? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 67 A. I think so. Well, it depends on what the case was, I think. Q. So what were the terms of your employment with regard to this case? Was it on an hourly basis? A. I don't think so. Q. So what were the terms? A. I don't know. Q. You don't know what the terms of your employment of the O'Boyle firm are in this case? A. You don't have to keep repeating it. Once is good enough. The answer is no. Q. And you don't know if there's a writing that memorializes that agreement, correct? A. I do not know. Q. Who did you negotiate the employment arrangement with, with regard to the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I may not have negotiated it. Q. Well, did you? A. I don't recall. Q. You don't recall ever engaging the firm? A. That's not what I said. Q. Did you engage the firm? A. As far as I'm concerned, yes. Q. Who is it you contacted to engage the firm? A. I don't recall who was handling it. It may Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 No 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 68 have been me. I don't recall. Q. And did you have discussions with your son, Jonathan, with regard to engaging the firm? MR. DESOUZA: With respect to this case? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. With respect to this case. A. No. (Defendant's Exhibit No. 3 was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. What about with respect to the case of Gulf Stream versus O'Boyle? Did you ask your son -- because you've indicated I'm committing a crime by pointing out what you and your son are doing. Let me ask you about what I'm marking as Exhibit 3, which is a petition to Gulf Stream Special Magistrate Court. And it's called case: Gulf Stream versus O'Boyle. It is dated July 17, 2013. And it says prepared by Jonathan R. O'Boyle, Esq., attorney for Martin E. O'Boyle. Let me show you Exhibit 3. Have you ever seen that before, sir? MR. DESOUZA: Are there copies? MR. SWEETAPPLE: That's the only copy I have. THE WITNESS: No. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 69 MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'll show it to your attorney first, please. MR. DESOUZA: MR. SWEETAPPL E heading, Counsel. MR. DESOUZA: What did you say this was, Bob? : I just reading from the Okay. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Please look at Exhibit 3. And I want to know, did you retain your son, Jonathan O'Boyle, to represent you as an attorney in Florida in the year 2013 at any time? A. No. Q. Was he A. Not that I can recall. Q. Was he authorized to file a document on your behalf with the Town of Gulf Stream representing that he was the attorney for you? A. I'm sure he was, or else he wouldn't have done it. Q. He was your attorney at that time? A. I didn't say that. Q. Was he your attorney in this proceeding in Gulf Stream, Florida in July of 2013? A. Well, he prepared a document, and as the attorney for Martin O'Boyle, so from there you can take Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 70 whatever you want. Q. What should I take from that? A. Whatever you like. Q. And didn't -- didn't your son appear pro hac vice in a case before Judge Middlebrooks during the summer of 2013? A. I think, if I'm remembering right, that's the one where Ms. O'Connor lied to the judge. I think that's the one, yes. Q. So when I asked you the question of whether or not in the summer of 2013 your son appeared pro hac vice before Judge Middlebrooks your response is, "That's the one where Ms. O'Connor lied before the judge ?" A. No. Lied to the judge. Q. Lied to the judge? A. Yes. Q. In other words, you can't tell me yes or no whether or not your son appeared pro hac vice without accusing a lawyer in this case of lying? A. I'm not accusing her. I'm making a statement. She lied. Q. Was that related to my question? I'm now focusing on your son's unauthorized practice of law, and your relationship with the O'Boyle Law Firm. And why would you bring up whether or not you believe Ms. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 71 O'Connor lied to a federal judge? A. Because I think that she should be dealt with. I would never even consider lying to a federal judge. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think there's a lawyer in this room besides Ms. O'Connor who would consider lying to a federal judge. Q. Are you aware that Judge Young, in a decision entered against you in Tennessee, stated that you quote, "Made factually ungrounded contentions." You had "An improper purpose," and that your goal in the litigation was to, "punish the defendants." Do you recall that's what the judge in Tennessee said about your conduct in that case, Mr. O'Boyle? A. No. Q. Okay. And that he had no difficulty, the judge had no difficulty finding you in contempt repeatedly and sanctioning you personally, because you were involved in the strategy decisions in the case. Are you aware the judge said that? A. No. Q. Okay. And are you aware that the judge did not sanction your lawyers, he determined to just sanction you and hold you in contempt repeatedly in that case over a seven -year period? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 E1 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 72 A. Maybe -- I can't answer that. I never was on the stand. I never testified before him. I never signed anything in front of him. It is what it is. Q. And then you sued Shulman Rogers Gandal Pordy, Ecker, P.A., Ross D. Cooper and Marcus Guberman, correct? Your attorneys. You, personally, Martin O'Boyle and others sued your attorneys in federal court in Tennessee, didn't you? A. I think New Midland Plaza Associates did. Q. Let me show you a copy of an opinion from the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. The style of the case is Martin E. O'Boyle, individually, and as general partner in New Midland Plaza Associates et al versus Shulman, et al. I'm going to mark this as Exhibit 4 to your deposition, sir. (Defendant's Exhibit No. 4 was marked for identification.) MR. DESOUZA: Is there another one? You only have one copy? MR. SWEETAPPLE: I only have one copy. I was hoping your client would remember some of this stuff but, apparently, he doesn't remember when judges hold him in contempt repeatedly. MR. DESOUZA: Is that a question, Bob? MR. SWEETAPPLE: It's just a statement. I'm Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 answering your question as to why I didn't make multiple copies of this. I wasn't expecting to have to use these to refresh your client's recollection, but I apparently need to. MR.SMITH: I'm sorry. I didn't hear what Exhibit 4 is. MR. SWEETAPPLE: It's a copy of an appellate decision from the Sixth Circuit Federal Court of Appeals in a case where Mr. O'Boyle is individually a plaintiff, where he sued his lawyers for malpractice, and then took an appeal. You will see it's a pattern with Mr. O'Boyle. It's not the only malpractice case you are going to see that I'll be questioning him about that he's brought and lost. MR. SMITH: I appreciate how you feel about it, but I was just asking what it -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm just giving you a head's up, Mr. Smith. MR. DESOUZA: Good opening, by the way, Bob. MR. SWEETAPPLE: You don't even know what case I'll be opening yet, Counsel. I think you're clueless as to what is going on here, or maybe you wouldn't even be sitting there. MR. DESOUZA: I think you should continue with Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 73 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 your opening statement. MR.SMITH: Bob, that is inappropriate, that comment, in my opinion for what it's worth, which may not be much. MR. SWEETAPPLE: If he's going to continue to insult me by saying I'm making openings, I'm going to respond to his criticisms and let him know that his facetious remarks are, in all likelihood, made out of ignorance because I have a whole box here of information that he knows nothing about. And maybe when he listens in this deposition and other depositions, he is going to know a lot more than he knows now. MR. SMITH: Don't. MR. SWEETAPPLE: And Mr. O'Boyle finds it all very boring and putting him to sleep, but maybe he won't be asleep at some point in this litigation. MR. DESOUZA: Can we get to a question at some point today? MR. SWEETAPPLE: I am, as soon as Mr. Smith is done reading the document and handing it back to the witness, Counsel. I'm trying to be courteous to all three attorneys -- all four attorneys that have accompanied Mr. O'Boyle to the deposition. Has everyone had a chance to review? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 74 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 75 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Now, have you had a chance to look at that Exhibit 4, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I have. Q. Okay. Do you recall that you, prior to that appeal, personally sued that law firm in a federal district court? A. I do not. Q. And you do recall that you lost that case in the federal district court? A. I do not. Q. Do you recall that you then took an appeal to the federal appellate court and lost in the federal appellate court? A. I do not. Q. Let's get back to your dealings with the O'Boyle Law Firm. You don't know the terms of your employment, if any. Do you know if you had any other financial arrangements with the law firm? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I don't know what that means. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Have you paid the law firm any money? Did you pay them a retainer related to this case? A. I wouldn't know. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 7 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 21 22 23 24 25 Page 76 Q. Are you giving them free rent? A. No. Q. Are they paying you rent? A. I wouldn't know. Q. Do they have a lease with the entity that owns the building that you are in? A. I would say they do. It may not be memorialized, but I would say that they do. Q. You're speculating, or you know? A. No. No. I would say that they do. Q. You're saying, yes, there is a written lease between the O'Boyle Law Firm and the owner of the building? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Misstating his testimony. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I don't understand your testimony, sir. Is there a written lease between an entity that you have an ownership interest in and the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I don't know. Q. And who would know that, sir? A. I don't know. Q. And you don't know, even know the name of the owner of the building, correct? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 W. 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 77 A. I can't say for sure. Q. And how much space is the O'Boyle Law Firm renting in this building? A. Half. Q. Half the building? And is it separately demarked? A marked space where they're separate from your other uses? A. There's a door that locks between us. Q. And all these hundred entities that you mentioned are in the other half of the building, and the O'Boyle Law Firm is on the other side of the door? A. That's correct. Q. And how much is the rent that the O'Boyle Law Firm is paying for that space? A. I can't help you. Q. And who files the sales tax reports for that building, sir? A. I can't help you. Q. Have you looked to see whether the entity that owns the real estate is paying sales tax for any rent from the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I have not. Q. Okay. And have you looked to see if the building -- the owner of the building has paid sales tax for any tenants that are occupying that space over the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 W 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 78 last 20 years? A. I don't understand your question. Q. Who handles filing sales tax for tenants in the building that you operate in on 128 West Newport Center Drive? Is it Ms. De Larmartini? Is she the one who has the responsibility of making sure the state has paid all the sales tax on the rent that you receive from tenants in that building? A. I don't think so. Q. Who is -- is Mr. Ring the one who's responsible for that? MR. DESOUZA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: Ask him. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I'm asking you. Is Mr. Ring -- A. I don't know. Q. Well, who is responsible for making sure that the owner of the building pays sales tax on rent that's received from tenants in that building? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. MR. TAYLOR: Objection. MR. DESOUZA: This is way off. It's been asked and answered five times. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So is -- do you know if there's been any rent Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 79 received from the O'Boyle Law Firm by any entity that you own? A. I don't know. Q. Do you owe the O'Boyle Law Firm any moneys currently for legal services? A. I don't know. Q. Do you have copies of any invoices that you have ever received for any legal work from the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I don't know. Q. Do you have any written agreements with regard to any representation by the O'Boyle Law Firm of you? A. I don't know. Q. Who would know the answer to those questions? A. I don't know. Q. Now, with regard to your defamatory -- or your statements you made about me on 6/13/14, you had a meeting with Mr. Ring and with Ms. O'Connor and Mr. Randall prior to going to city hall, correct? MR. DESOUZA: Bob, are you asking him to agree whether the statements were defamatory, or are you striking that portion of your comment? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, do you consider, as you sit here today, that the statements you made about me were Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 80 defamatory? A. They were not. Q. Pardon? A. They were not. Q. And so you do believe that it is okay for you to say that I consistently misrepresented testimony as a lawyer? A. If that's what the courts have written, and it it's filed, all I did was -- and all I did was to read it, then I think it's appropriate. Q. Well, the court didn't say that I had misrepresented testimony. The court quoted a motion that was filed in an appeal in a case that my name was one of the lawyers on the opinion, correct? The court never mentioned my name anywhere. MR. DESOUZA: Is that a question or a statement? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Isn't that a fact? Aren't you aware of that? A. I don't know whether it is a fact or not. I can look at the documents again, but I know how testy you get, so... Q. Well, did you go -- you say you went to city hall after 6/13/14 and you retracted these statements you made about me? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 81 A. Yes. Q. What exactly did you say? Did you -- tell me exactly what you said. A. I said I made a statement last time I was here about Mr. Sweetapple. It was in error. And then I went ahead and corrected it. Q. What -- did you identify the specific statement that you said you made that was in error? A. I think so. Q. Each statement? A. I think so. Q. Did you say on 6/13/2014 that Judge Elizabeth Maas said that Mr. Sweetapple's filing was a slander? Did you -- did you say that to the town council? A. That was on what date? Q. Right here. If you look at this, it is exhibit -- right here, sir. Exhibit 2. This is Exhibit 2. A. Okay. What were you saying about Judge Maas? Q. I'm asking you. I'm reading from Exhibit 2. I want to know did you say that Judge Maas says that Mr. Sweetapple's filing was a slander? Did you say that to the town council of Gulf Stream? A. I don't know. Where are you showing me here? This is where you're showing me? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 82 If you don't want to answer me you don't have to. Q. I've said it three times now. It is Exhibit 2, Mr. O'Boyle. Did you hear me say that? I've said that three times in the last 45 seconds. A. I haven't heard you say it. Q. Let me try it again. It is Exhibit 2, Mr. O'Boyle. I actually touched it and tried to show it to you. So for the fourth time it is Exhibit 2, Mr. O'Boyle. It's the same document that you've looked at with the other statements you made about me in front of my client. Do you recall the question, Mr. O'Boyle? A. Generally, yes. Q. What is the question I've asked you? A. If I said that consistently judge -- whatever her name was, Maas, said that Mr. Sweetapple consistently misrepresented testimony. Q. No, I said -- I quoted the transcript which says, "There's another case in Palm Beach County Circuit Court that Judge Elizabeth Maas says that Mr. Sweetapple's filing was a slander." And I'm asking you, did you say that to the town council on June 13, 2014? A. I can't answer you. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 83 Q. Why? A. Because I don't know the answer. Q. So Exhibit 2 doesn't refresh your recollection that that is what you said? A. No. Exhibit 2 refreshed my recollection that's what you said. Q. So Exhibit 2, which is a transcription of the meeting that was prepared by the town, doesn't refresh your recollection? A. The town's transcriptions are unreliable and I'm not going to rely on them. Q. So when you went -- when did you go to the town to -- did you go to the town to retract statements you'd made about me? A. Yes. Q. When did you go to do that? A. I think it was July il. Q. And do you recall specifically what you said? A. No. Q. Do you recall what statements you retracted? A. I don't. Q. Do you recall how you retracted them? A. I stood up at the podium and I said there, "The last time I was here I made a statement, or some statements about Mr. Sweetapple. They were in error and Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 84 I want to correct them." And I corrected them. Q. Did you specifically mention the statement that you were retracting or corrected? A. I told you what I remember. Q. Have you ever looked at a transcript or a tape of that appearance that you made? A. Maybe. Q. Did you ever write to me and apologize for making those statements? A. If I made them erroneously, I apologize right ORTGOW Q. What do you mean if you made them erroneously? Did you make them erroneously? A. You're telling me I did. I have no knowledge that I did. Q. So your retraction is not based on your belief that they were in error. A. No. You're putting words in my mouth. Q. Are you retracting your statement? MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. Hold on. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm going to retract -- MR. DESOUZA: Let him finish. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm going to withdraw my question. MR. DESOUZA: You can withdraw the question. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Im 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 85 Hold on a second. Marty, were you in the middle of an answer? THE WITNESS: Yes. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm withdrawing the question. MR. DESOUZA: He can finish making the statement. MR. SWEETAPPLE: No, he can't. I'm withdrawing the question, and I'm going to phrase another question. MR. DESOUZA: I don't care if you want to say you withdraw. You can go ahead and finish the statement you were making. Go ahead. MR. SWEETAPPLE: No, he can't. But go ahead and we'll take that up with the judge. You're giving improper instructions to the witness. I'm trying to take a deposition. Go ahead. THE WITNESS: Okay. I made an error the first time I said it. I didn't make an error in the facts. I made an error in the sources. And once I realized that, I went back either the next month or the next meeting after that, I don't recall. And to the best of my knowledge, I corrected it. If I did not fully correct it, then I want to say to Mr. Sweetapple, anything that I said about you that was incorrect, I apologize, and Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 I I take it back. Page 86 2 3 4 5 6 7 [7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. What did you say about me that was incorrect? A. Anything that I said about you that was incorrect, I apologize, and I take it back. Q. You call that a retraction? What is it you said about me that is incorrect that you're taking back, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I've answered your question. Q. So you're not going to tell me what your retraction encompasses? A. Only because I don't know that I said anything at all. Q. So you're really not retracting, you're just equivocating. A. Well, you can -- if you want to sit here you can walk back and forth and ask your questions and answer them yourself. Q. Well, you've sued people for defamation before. A. I have. Q. You're familiar with defamation law? A. I am. Q. You sued Mr. Isen for defamation. A. I did. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 in 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 87 Q. Why did you sue him for defamation? A. I think he deserved it. Q. What did he call you that you thought deserved it? A. The enemy of the people. Q. And that case was dismissed, right? A. That case, yes. New Jersey is a very difficult case to win a slander suit; very, very difficult. Q. And have you sued anybody else for defamation? A. You. Q. And anyone else? A. Mr. Morgan. Q. Anyone else? A. Not yet. Q. So that is a case that I was just served with this morning? A. I have no idea. Q. Your process server came by this morning and gave me a lawsuit. So you've sued me for defamation. A. Yes. Q. And yet you're here purporting to retract the defamatory statements you made about me. A. I'm not going to answer that anymore. Q. When you went to the meeting that July, you Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 88 told the council that you were going to come back with other information about me, right? A. I don't recall. Q. Now, on June 4th you met with Mr. Ring, Mr. Randolph and Ms. O'Conner with regard to the motion that I had filed to disqualify the O'Boyle Law Firm, right? A. Yes. By the way, it was very disgraceful. Q. The meeting? A. No, the motion he filed. That was absolutely an embarrassment to the legal profession. Q. Well, we're going to go into the facts that are set forth in that motion and that resolve -- revolve around the issue of whether or not your son's firm is a lawful Florida law firm. But we'll do that sequentially so you can show me what you think is a disgrace, and then I'll show you some other evidence and we'll decide whether or not there is any basis for my statements or not. We'll certainly -- I think there will be entities and courts that will be making those determinations, Mr. O'Boyle. We'll certainly start fleshing out some of those facts here, don't worry. At this meeting on June 4th that you and Mr. Ring called, did you indicate that you wanted to Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 89 meet with Mr. Randolph and Ms. O'Connor with regard to the motion I had filed? A. No. MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Did Mr. Ring -- MR. DESOUZA: Hold on a second. I don't know if you want to go off the record and excuse the witness if we're going to talk about the substance of this meeting, which I believe there was some agreement to treat it as confidential. And I know there's a follow -up letter that says we don't consider this to be settlement or confidential, but as far as I know right now, there's an agreement in place that says this is a confidential settlement agreement. So if you want to start discussing -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: There's no agreement that it's a confidential settlement agreement. There was a meeting -- there was an agreement that if settlement was discussed, it would be treated as confidential. We have memoranda quickly prepared after the meeting that will demonstrate there was no settlement of any matter discussed. And I'm going to go through that. I appreciate your Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 90 caution. MR. DESOUZA: I understand that's your position, but if my client feels otherwise, and if Skip's clients feel otherwise as to what was discussed and whether it was settlement discussion or not, I would rather flush that out before we waive any sort of objection. This is a confidential settlement agreement. MR. SWEETAPPLE: First of all, I think when you research the law you'll find that that deals with whether or not it's admissible in trial. It has nothing to do with this deposition. So let me go forward, please. MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. So what you are saying, so I'm clear on the record, is that if a confidential settlement meeting happens you're entitled to inquire into what was discussed during discovery? MR. SWEETAPPLE: If it's not a mediation the court can hear what was said and determine whether or not it is settlement discussions or not, and then opine and rule whether or not it gets admitted into evidence. It happens all the time. MR. DESOUZA: Bob, I understand what you're saying. I'm only asking you whether you feel Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 11M 20 21 22 23 24 25 you're entitled to inquire into it in a deposition of someone where there's a position that it's a confidential settlement meeting. Mr. O'Boyle says it's a confidential settlement meeting. Is it your position that you are inquire -- you are entitled to inquire into what was said during that meeting? MR. SWEETAPPLE: I've said -- MR. DESOUZA: Yes or no. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I said this to you in two different ways. I'll say it another way. MR. DESOUZA: All I want is a yes or no. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I will not inquire into something that I don't think is appropriate or calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence or, in this case, going to be admitted. (a) I don't think there was any settlement discussion that went on; (b) I do not believe my client agreed that the communications would be treated as settlement unless there was settlement discussions; (c) to the extent you believe they're settlement discussions and I don't, the court is going to have to hear the discussions and the testimony in order to make that decision. Okay. MR. DESOUZA: Fair enough. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 91 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 92 MR. SWEETAPPLE: So I'm going to proceed, if I can. MR. DESOUZA: Fair enough. Just do me one favor -- do me one favor and ask him whether he believes this was a confidential settlement negotiation or not, then I'll let you proceed. I don't care how he answers, I will let you proceed. MR. SWEETAPPLE: You can ask whatever questions you want on cross - examination. I'm going to wait until -- Joanne has to go take a phone call, so I'm going to wait until she is back for this area of inquiry because she was involved in it and I want her to be able to give me her insights. MR. DESOUZA: Okay. Then we're taking a break off the record? MR. SWEETAPPLE: No. No. I'm going to go on to the next matter. MR. DESOUZA: I'm sorry, I thought you were. MR. SWEETAPPLE: No. I'm going to hold off on this exhibit until she comes back and I'll go into that then. MR. DESOUZA: My apologies. THE WITNESS: (Conferring with counsel.) MR. DESOUZA: And Bob, Mr. O'Boyle has just indicated that he needs to get lunch in the next Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 93 few minutes, so I don't know if there is a logical -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'll be happy to break right now and let him get lunch. MR. DESOUZA: -- break while she is on her phone call. MR. SWEETAPPLE: And 1:00 o'clock, 1:30? You tell me. MR. DESOUZA: Let's try for 1:00. We'll see if we can get back by then, if not, 1:30. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Perfect. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 12:00 p.m. and we're going off the record. (At 12:00 p.m. a luncheon recess was taken.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Time is 1:17 p.m. We're back on record. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, I would like to go back and follow up on some background I was getting into with you. You mentioned earlier in your deposition that there were -- there was litigation in Longport, New Jersey. You described O'Boyle versus Longport, New Jersey, two OPRA cases, and a case involving Mr. Isen. Is there any other litigation in Longport that Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 94 you were involved in? A. Did you say was or is? Q. Was and /or is. A. Okay. Is, no. Was, there were some additional public records lawsuits. Q. And you didn't bring any other -- did you bring any another claims against any individuals, any ethics claims or criminal claims or other lawsuits? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. In New Jersey? In Longport? A. No. No, I didn't. Q. In Longport, as I understand it, your litigation with that town commenced with two notices of violation you got for allegedly making modifications to the ground floor of your home there; is that correct? A. I don't know. Q. Okay. Can you tell me how long you were involved in litigation with the city of Longport, or the Town of Longport? Is it town or city? A. It's a borough. Q. How long were you involved in litigation with the borough of Longport? A. I don't know. Q. Were you ever a resident of Longport, New Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 95 Jersey? A. Was a resident. Q. Did you ever make that your lawful residency? Did you ever have your driver's license registered there or vote there? A. Yes. Q. When were you a resident of Longport? A. In the 170s. Q. In the 170s. Okay. And so have you owned the same property there since the 170s? A. I don't own any property there. Q. Is there a home there that you used in Longport that received violations from the borough? A. There is a home there that I did use, yes. Q. Who was it owned by? A. It was owned by my wife. Q. And you've used that as a primary residence and then a vacation home over the last 40 years? A. I have no idea what you said. Q. Have you used that as a primary residence and then a vacation home on and off during the past 40 years? A. What is a primary residence? Q. The time period you described where you had your voter's registration there. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 96 A. That was in the 170s. We didn't own the home at that point. Q. When did your wife obtain title to this home? A. I'm going to guess mid 180s. Q. Okay. And how did your dispute with -- you did get into a legal battle with the Town of Longport, didn't you? The borough of Longport. A. I don't know if I would call it that, but... Q. Well, did you sue them? A. Yes, I did sue them. Q. And what was -- and you personally were a plaintiff in the case? A. Yes, I was personally. Q. And your wife was a plaintiff? A. Not at all. Q. Just you? A. Yes. Q. So at that point you owned the home, correct? A. No. Q. What were the grounds for your suit? A. I can't explain it to you. Q. You don't remember? A. I said I can't explain it to you. Q. Why can't you explain it to me? A. Because I cannot articulate it. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 97 Q. You don't know that the town issued two zoning violations to you that prompted you to file suit? A. That's right. Q. And you also, when you got into this fight with the town, propounded a public records request to them, didn't you? A. I think I propounded public records to them long before we got into a suit. Q. When did you start propounding public records requests to the town of -- the borough of Longport? A. If I had to guess -- and I shouldn't be guessing. I don't know. Q. Do you know how many total public records requests you propounded to the borough of Longport? A. I do not. Q. Do you know if it was more than a thousand? A. I don't think so. Q. And do you know, have you seen any reference to your actions in any court opinions regarding the effect that your conduct had on the clerk of the town or the borough? A. No. Q. And do you recall what any of the documents you were seeking from the borough of Longport were? A. Initially, it was in connection with the plans Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 in 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 98 or the construction of other homes. And then it sort of grew from there. Q. And how did it grow? Describe for me what happened. A. Well, you might ask if Susie wears dresses, and the answer is yes. And then you might ask, what color dresses does she have? And then she would answer. And then it's what type of dresses are they? So sort of -- they sort of one -- one gives you an answer but also gives you a question. Q. Do you remember my question, Mr. O'Boyle? A. Umm, I thought I answered it. Q. What was my question that you thought you answered? A. I didn't memorize it. Q. Do you have any idea what it was? A. Why don't you tell me and save us some time Q. It wasn't about any dresses. Would you please read the question back to Mr. O'Boyle. (A portion of the record was read by the reporter.) THE WITNESS: It grew by needing additional related information. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 fis-7 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 99 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. And the litigation went for over two years, correct? A. No. Q. How long did the litigation with the town go A. I don't know. Q. And in the -- in the litigation -- during the litigation you allege that the town had moved some signs of yours, right? A. No. Q. So you never alleged that this town had been involved in -- that employees of the borough had been involved in removing signs? A. You asked me about -- can we read Mr. Sweetapple's question back, please? Q. Let me rephrase it for you. A. Sure. Q. Did you allege during the incident with the town or borough of Longport that the town had removed signs of yours? A. No. Q. And was that ever a subject of your -- did you ever say the borough workers moved the signs to spite you? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 100 A. I don't think so. (Defendant's Exhibit No. 5 was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. And so in this article that I'm going to mark as Exhibit 5 -- I'm going to show you an article that was "Public signs show O'Boyle V Longport not over. Marty O'Boyle picked up signs posted on his beachfront from Longport's public works yard on Friday. Borough officials say a recent storm carried the signs from 28th Avenue to 25th Avenue, but O'Boyle says borough workers moved it to spite him." Did you ever escalate the litigation over your alleged zoning violations with allegations that the city or employees of the borough had moved your signs from your property? A. No. MR. DESOUZA: Objection to form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And did you ever hire a private detective and a physicist to attempt to prove that signs had been moved from your property? A. No. Q. And in this case you're alleging that signs had been removed; are you not? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 A. I don't know Q. Well -- MR. DESOUZA: 4 I here? 5 6 7 E7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 101 I can't see. You're talking about this case BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. The case you're here on that you're being deposed in concerns your allegation that campaign signs had been removed. A. Yes. Uh -huh. Q. Okay. So it's a similar allegation as you made in New Jersey, correct? A. No. MR. DESOUZA: Objection. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And let me mark this as Exhibit 5. And this is -- Mr. Isen worked for the planning board of the borough, correct? A. He was a member of the planning and zoning board, which is a voluntary spot. But I don't -- I think he ended in 2009, but I'm not sure. Q. And as part of this litigation in Longport, do you know how many public record -type lawsuits you filed? A. No. Q. And you don't know how many public records requests you made? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 102 A. No. Q. And are you aware that you flew banners maligning town employees and others? Did you cause banners to be flown in Longport, New Jersey maligning any individuals? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I don't know what you mean by "maligning." BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Making derogatory statements about anyone. MR. DESOUZA: Can I see the exhibit, Bob? THE WITNESS: What is a derogatory statement? Is that something that's not allowed by the First Amendment? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Not necessarily. A. Okay. I don't know what it is. Q. Critical statement. Insulting statement. Childish statement. Scatological statement, where you talk about body functions, farting, or somebody is a putz or a douche bag, or things like that that we stopped doing in third grade usually. MR. TAYLOR: Objection. MR. DESOUZA: Object to form. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 0 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 103 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are there any such comments like that that you caused to be flown on any planes or blimps in Longport, New Jersey in the course of your dispute with that borough? MR. DESOUZA: Objection to form. Hold on. Let me make my objection. Objection and form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You can answer the question, Mr. O'Boyle. A. You're asking if I flew any banners where I called someone a douche bag? Q. Or any derogatory or insulting term. A. I want to make sure I understand. Q. Let me rephrase it. Did you fly any banners -- did you cause any banners to be flown in Longport in conjunction with your litigation in that town? A. No. Q. Did you cause any blimps to be flown? A. (Conferring with counsel.) Q. You really can't ask your attorney for advice during this deposition, Mr. O'Boyle. You're going to have to -- you're on the stand. MR. DESOUZA: Is there a privilege issue you need to discuss with me? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 104 THE WITNESS: No. What is your question? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Did you cause any blimps to be flown? A. No. Q. Were any banners flown in New Jersey that referenced any employees or residents of the town, the borough of Longport that you're aware of? A. Can you say that again? Q. Were any banners flown by any planes or any blimps flown that contain messages regarding any residents of Longport that you're aware of? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. Are you asking -- BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. During the time this dispute with the town -- the borough was ongoing. A. Can you say it again? Q. Sure. Are you aware whether or not any banners were flown in Longport at any time while your dispute with them was ongoing? A. I don't know. Q. Were you ever asked about any banners by media? A. I think so. Q. And did you ever deny that you were involved Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 V 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 105 in the flying of banners while you were questioned by the media in Longport, New Jersey? A. I don't know that I was asked, so I can't answer that question. Q. Okay. And do you have any knowledge as to who was flying banners in Longport, New Jersey? A. Several people. Q. Who -- anyone that is in your employ? A. No. Q. Any entities that you had any control over? A. No. Q. Did you have any discussions with anyone about flying banners? MR. DESOUZA: In Longport during the time of this litigation? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. In Longport during litigation. A. I don't know. Q. You don't know if you had any conversations? A. No. Q. Why not? You can't remember? A. I don't recall having any conversations. Q. Did you pay anyone to fly banners? A. No. Q. Do you have any idea who was involved in the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 106 flying of any banners in Longport during the time of this litigation? A. There were several people, one of which was Peter Isen; one of which was Frank Alfano. And that's all I can remember. Q. What did those banners say? A. I don't remember. Q. And so no one -- anybody that you knew personally flying banners? A. Peter Isen and Frank Alfano. Q. But they did not fly banners at your request? A. They did not fly banners at my request. Q. Were those banners critical of you? A. I think -- I think yes. I think some of them were. Q. Do you recall what they said? A. No. Q. And are you aware of any banners that were flown that were critical of either of these gentlemen? A. I'm sorry. I didn't catch that. Q. Do you recall any banners that were flown that with critical of either of those two gentlemen, Alfano or Isen? A. Isen. I don't remember Alfano, so I can't answer you there. But Isen. And I guess it would Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 No 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 107 depend on what you would call "critical" versus humorous. Q. And did other family members and neighbors and allies of yours file lawsuits in Longport, over the Longport issue? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: Not that I know of. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And that is reported in the media in various articles regarding your dispute; are you aware of that? A. No, I'm not. Q. Okay. Did you file a grievance against anyone on an ethics charge in Longport as it related to this dispute? A. Yes. Q. Okay. That was dismissed; was it not? A. Yes. When you say "me ", I don't know that it was me who filed the ethics. Q. Wasn't it Martin O'Boyle versus the borough of Longport? A. If that's what it was, then it was me. Q. And you lost at the ethics committee level and at the appellate level, correct? A. Correct. Q. And you said to one journalist, "The Irish Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 M 6 7 8 El 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 108 guys, they don't give up too easy. A friend of mine said Irish Alzheimer's is when you forget everything except the grudges." Do you recall saying that? A. I do. Q. So you carry grudges? A. No. That's what my friend said. Q. So you were quoting him? A. Yeah. Q. With approval or without approval? A. It was an Irish writer, reporter. And we were having some fun. And at the end I said, before we leave, let me tell you something, and that's what happened. Q. Well, the article -- the writer says, "But few could understand just how personal this battle got with lawsuits flying back and forth, criminal complaints being filed, and accusations of harassment, vandalism, slander -- are fodder for a good beach novel. Nor could they realize how embroiled O'Boyle became in the fight. "By his own admission, it hurt his business and personal his life, but he is hardly one to quit. "While the borough's stake isn't small change, O'Boyle anted up at least $300,000." Quote -- this is your quote: "The Irish guys, they don't give up too easy, O'Boyle said. A friend of mine said, Irish Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 109 Alzheimer's is when you forget everything except the grudges." Did you, in fact, spend $300,000 in the litigation with Longport? A. I don't know. Q. This was only early on in the litigation, right? This was September 3 of 2008. The litigation went on well after that, didn't it? A. I don't know. Q. And were there criminal complaints filed in the litigation with Longport? A. Longport filed a quasi criminal complaint, against me. Q. Well, did you file any criminal complaints? A. Pardon? Q. Did you file any criminal complaints against anyone? A. Boy, I don't think so. Q. Didn't you file criminal complaints against the DiLorenzo family, two of them? A. No. Q. You're sure of that? A. Yes, I am. Q. And one of your public records requests cases went to the appellate division, correct, where you Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 110 sought letters and a compact disc. A. I don't remember. Q. And the appellate court ruled in favor of the borough, correct? A. I don't think so, but -- oh, yes. There was one case that we lost. It went to the Supreme Court. Q. Did you have any planes in -- that you owned or any companies that owned any planes or blimps in New Jersey during the time of this litigation? A. Say that again. Q. Did you personally or through any entities have any interest in any planes or blimps in New Jersey during the last ten years? A. Can I ask you a question about the privilege? MR. DESOUZA: If you have to ask me a privilege question, you can ask me. THE WITNESS: (Conferring with counsel.) I'm sorry. What was your question again? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Could you read it back, please. (A portion of the record was read by the reporter.) THE WITNESS: I apologize. Can you do it again, please? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 1I1 (A portion of the record was read by the reporter.) THE WITNESS: Yes. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And can you tell me what those interests were? A. No. Q. Why not? A. Because I don't know. Q. What type of plane -- what entity had an interest in a plane? A. Don't know. Q. And was the interest in the plane, the blimp, or both? A. Plane. Q. Do you know what kind of plane it was? A. At what point in time? Q. Any time during the last ten years. What planes did you have an ownership interest in directly or indirectly in New Jersey? A. I had a Cesna T206. I had a BE300. And I had a Cesna Caravan, and I had an Extra 400. Q. And who flew those planes? A. Pilots. Q. What were the pilots' names? A. Eduardo Batica. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 112 Q. How do you spell the last name? A. B- a- t- i -c -a. The Extra, I don't remember. Tim somebody. And then the Caravan, Kevin somebody. Q. Were these planes ever used to pull banners, to your knowledge? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Is your son, Jonathan, a pilot? A. He is. Q. Did he ever fly these planes? A. The 206. Q. Do you know if he ever pulled any banners? A. Never. Q. Do you know if in Florida he has -- do you have any planes in Florida or blimps in Florida? A. Doing what? Q. Do you have access indirectly or directly to any planes in Florida during the last three years? MR. DESOUZA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: I don't know how to answer the question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Do you individually or through entities own any interests in any planes that have flown in Florida during the last two years? A. No. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 113 Q. And what about blimps? A. What is your question? Q. Do you have any ownership directly or indirectly in any blimp? A. No. Q. And have you caused any banners to be flown in Dade, Broward or Palm Beach County during the past five years? A. Yes. Q. When is the first time that you have caused banners to be flown in South Florida? A. Beyond five years ago. Q. Beyond five years ago? A. Uh -huh. Q. When is the first time you've caused a banner to be flown? A. Beyond five years ago. Q. Tell me when. A. I can't tell you. Beyond five years ago. Q. More than ten years ago? A. No. Q. What was the first occasion you caused banners to be flown? A. I don't recall. Q. Where was it? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 M 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 114 A. I think it was at Palm Beach County Courthouse, I think. Q. And what did it involve? A. Banners. Q. I mean, what did the banners involve? What did they pertain to? A. I'm not sure I understand your question. Q. Do you remember what the banners said? A. No. Q. Do you remember if it involved Mr. Aronberg? A. No. Q. Is it Mr. McCulky? MS. O'CONNOR: McAuliffe. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. McAuliffe. A. I think a better way of saying it, it involved his office. Q. Okay. Did it involve a prosecution of your daughter, Sara, for DUI? A. No. Q. Was your daughter prosecuted for DUI at the time you flew these banners? A. No. Q. Had she been arrested? A. Probably four years earlier maybe. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 115 Q. Okay. And had she been convicted? A. She had been convicted, yes. Q. How soon before you flew the banners? A. About four years maybe. Q. So why did you fly these banners at the Palm Beach County Courthouse? A. Because I thought the prosecutor's office needed to be brought down a notch or two, and I ran some banners. Q. I'm sorry, you rented? A. "Ran" banners. Q. How many times did you fly banners? A. Can't answer you. Q. And who did you have fly these banners? A. I can't answer you. Q. Why not? A. Because I don't know. Q. Where did you go? Which airport? A. I didn't go to any airport. Q. Who did you call to do this? A. My -- somebody from my office made the call. Q. And who was called; do you know? A. No. Q. Who from your office called? A. Well, likely Michelle, but I can't think of Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 No 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 116 her last name. Q. And who decided what to put on these banners? Was that your decision? A. I would say for the most part it would be my decision, yes. Q. And did your flying these banners have to do with Mr. McAuliffe refusing to meet with you after your daughter was convicted of DUI? A. No. Q. Now, how many times did you fly banners directed to Mr. McAuliffe? A. I don't know. Q. And you also had Ms. De Larmartini hire actors to stage a protest, didn't you, concerning Mr. McAuliffe? A. No. Q. Did Ms. De Larmartini hire people to stage a protest of Mr. McAuliffe's office, to your knowledge? A. I don't know for sure. Q. What do you know about that subject? A. I knew that there was a protest. Q. Are you aware it has been widely reported that Denise De Larmartini hired the individuals who were professional actors to stage that protest? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 M. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 117 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And that was done at Mr. Aronberg's request, right? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: You'd have to ask Mr. Aronberg. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. Aronberg was involved in organizing those protests with you, wasn't he? A. No. Q. Did you file an ethics complaint against Mr. Aronberg? A. No. Q. Did you ever have a falling out with Mr. Aronberg? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I would say a misunderstanding with Mr. Aronberg is better stated. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And you never filed any ethics complaint with him? A. He did nothing unethical. Q. And your daughter was convicted of DUI in 2011, right? A. I don't know. Q. And in conjunction with that prosecution, you Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 G7 9 10 it 1 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 118 submitted in one month 1,300 -- more than 1,300 public records requests to State Attorney Aronberg and State Attorney Bruce Colton, correct? While the case was pending? A. No. Q. Did any of -- not you personally, but you or a company that you're affiliated with, submit more than 1,300 public records requests to Aronberg and Colton's office during your daughter's prosecution? A. No. Q. How many public records do you believe that you -- strike that. Did you or any company that you're involved in submit any public records requests to either State Attorney Aronberg or Colton's office? A. Yes. Q. And what about to State Attorney McAuliffe? Did you submit any public records request to State Attorney McAuliffe? A. I don't think so. Q. And the public records requests that you submitted to Mr. Aronberg and Mr. Colton's offices, was that while a prosecution of your daughter was pending? A. No. Q. It was after the prosecution was over? A. Yes. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 iE 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 IV 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 119 Q. You're certain of that? A. I think so. Q. Okay. And what about while the appeal was pending. Did you do it while an appeal was pending? A. I don't know. Q. And what documents were you seeking from Mr. Aronberg's office with all these requests you filed? A. Well, I don't know how many requests I filed, and I don't know which documents I was seeking as I sit here. Nor do I know how many I was seeking as I sit here. Q. You don't know how many public records requests were served by you personally to Mr. Aronberg, while your daughter was either under prosecution or in the appellate process? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Asked and answered. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I'm asking about him personally. Do you know how many personally you submitted? A. You keep asking me this. Q. Just you personally. I don't want to know the whole global amount, I have the reports and the totals on the global amount. I want to know if you know how much you personally remember. A. Why don't we have the court reporter read it Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Page 120 back and that way we'll know. Q. Do you have an answer? A. Pardon? Q. Do you have an answer? Do you know? A. I don't know. If I've answered the question, I would like to just read back the answer. Q. I'm not reading your answers back. I can read questions back, and I'll rephrase the question for you. Do you know -- let me do it this way. Do you know what companies that you're involved in made public records requests while your daughter was being either prosecuted for DUI or was under appeal for her DUI conviction? A. No. Q. Do you recall even one topic of -- one document that you were seeking when you filed this 17 1 request? 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. No. Q. And did you file those requests to bring the prosecutor down a notch? A. You're asking me to go back a few years and I'm not sure that I can do that. I filed a request to gain information that I thought would be helpful to my daughter. Whether I expanded that to bring the prosecutor down a notch, as you say, I don't know. But Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 i_ 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 121 unfortunately, as you know, politicos get out of control from time to time and they have to be brought down a notch. Q. In fact, when you were asked while you were making the public records requests, you replied to the writer quote, "you liked to know about your enemy." Isn't that what you said? MR. DESOUZA: Replied to which writer? MR. SWEETAPPLE: The writer of the article concerning your Blimp Co., Sweet Aron Boy Blimp Co., LLC, which made more than 1,300 public records requests between February 12th and March 13, 2012. MR. DESOUZA: Bob, it's your deposition. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here but if we're going to spend eight hours just reading from newspaper articles and asking him if the newspaper article is true or not -- I don't know what exactly you're trying to accomplish here. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, did you tell a reporter in 2012, when asked why you filed over 1,000 public records requests in one month, that quote, "You liked to know about your enemy" referring to the state attorneys of Palm Beach and Treasure Coast? A. I don't remember. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 122 Q. Did you consider the state attorneys your enemies. A. I would say generally stated, no. Q. And are you familiar with an entity by the name of Sweet Aron Boy Blimp Co., LLC? A. May I see what you're looking at? Q. (Handing document.) A. Yes, I am. Q. And is that a company that you caused to be formed? A. Yes. Q. And does it own a blimp? A. Does it own a blimp. No, it does not own a blimp. Q. Does it have any interest in a blimp? A. No, it does not have any interest in a blimp. Q. Why did you name an LLC Sweet Aron Boy Blimp Co.? Is there any relationship with Blimp Cc? A. There could have been. And that was the name that I picked and we formed it, and there it is. Q. Did you have any interest, ownership interest in a blimp at the time you formed the LLC? A. No. Q. And did you also tell the reporter that quote, "I'll hit them with more lawsuits than they can possibly Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 EA 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 123 handle ?" A. Not that I recall. Q. And did you tell the reporter that you hired two attorneys just to make public records requests? A. No. Q. And did you file any public records lawsuits with regard to the requests that you inundated the state attorneys' offices with? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: Yeah, I don't -- I don't accept "inundated." If you would like to ask me a different question, I'll answer it. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You don't think filing 874 public records requests on Bruce Colton and 454 requests on Dave Aronberg in a 30 -day period is inundating their offices with public records requests? MR. DESOUZA: I don't particularly agree with your number, Bob. You're reading off a newspaper article. You're not asking him -- you asked him how many he filed and he said I don't know. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware you filed 874 public records requests with Bruce Colton in 19 -- in one month in 2012? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 WE 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 124 A. No. Q. Are you aware that you filed 454 with Dave Aronberg's office? A. No. Q. What do you consider inundating a public official or a municipality with public records requests; how many do you think is reasonable? A. I don't know. I don't know. Q. Can you tell me one document you obtained through these public records requests from the state attorneys that you remember at all? A. No. Q. And some of the signs behind the plane said "Beware of thug prosecutors." Do you recall that? A. I'm sorry? Q. "Beware thug prosecutors." Do you recall that sign? That banner? A. I'm still not understanding. Q. There was one banner that read, "Beware thug prosecutors." Do you recall that banner? A. Beware of thug prosecutors? I do not. Q. Do you recall having anything to do with that banner? A. If I don't recall it, I don't recall it. Q. "Dump McAuliffe for prosecutor. Vote for Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 W, 23 24 25 Page 125 Was that a banner that you had anything to do with? A. Probably. Q. I thought you said you didn't fly any banners attacking Mr. McAuliffe. A. Then I erred if that's what I said. Q. "Smile if you think Mikey McAuliffe is a putz." That's you, right? A. Yes. Q. Because putz is one of your favorite words you like to use in describing people, right? A. Well, such as yourself. MR. TAYLOR: Object to form. MR. DESOUZA: Objection. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You like to use that for me, for Mr. Morgan. What is a putz? A. Jerk. Q. Is that all it is? A. Yes. Q. And so you like to call people jerks? A. No. I don't like to call people jerks. I like to call jerks jerks. Q. You think it's appropriate while I'm Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Q� 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 126 litigating against you to call me a jerk? MR. DESOUZA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: I didn't say it was appropriate or not. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Well, you have called me a jerk, right? A. Well, I call a spade a spade. Q. I see. So you've called me a jerk, right? MR. DESOUZA: Are we here about your feelings, Bob, or to actually talk about this case? MR. SWEETAPPLE: We're here about my motion to -- MR. DESOUZA: Are your feelings hurt, or do we actually want to talk about it? MR. SWEETAPPLE: We're here about your client's abuse of conduct in litigation, sanctioning him and his counsel. MR. DESOUZA: We're not here on a case in Tennessee. We're not here about flying signs ten years ago. As far as I know, we're here about a motion for sanctions and an amendment to that motion for sanctions that you filed in this case, which as far as I can tell relate to two items. Some meeting that happened in June that you get to talk about at 3:00 p.m., and some signs that were Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 127 allegedly flown this year, which we have yet to talk about. And perhaps maybe even get to the merits of this case at some point this afternoon. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Well, the signs have the same words in them as I'm talking about in this case. I'm getting into his MO, his intent, and I intend to show that this gentleman has been engaging, as I allege in the motion, in conduct that is classic litigation abuse in multi jurisdictions that he has been sanctioned for, that he knows is not permitted, and that he's continuing to do it. So it's not about my feelings. It is about whether or not it's appropriate for my client to say that you are rotten. Or to say you lay smelly farts, or to threaten your children. And I'll get into everything that I'm going to prove this gentleman did in this case. And I'm going to prove he did it in other instances. And it's just a very small part of his illegal conduct that we're going to be getting into in this litigation. So just be patient. MR. DESOUZA: Well -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: Please. I've been doing this 34 years. I will tie it all up for you. All your mysteries will be solved. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 MR. DESOUZA 2 rather -- 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SWEETAPPLE MR. DESOUZA: MR. SWEETAPPLE MR. DESOUZA: MR. SWEETAPPLE question -- Bob, I appreciate it. I would . Let me go forward. Can you hold on a second? No, we're done. I'd appreciate -- . Mr. O'Boyle, I have a MR. DESOUZA: Hey. Excuse me. I would appreciate it if you might be able to do it, say, perhaps before 10:00 p.m. tonight so we can all get home. MR. SWEETAPPLE: We're not going to go until 10:00 p.m. tonight. Your client has 12 cases pending just in his name. He has got over a hundred in a bogus entity called Citizens Awareness Foundation that he's used with his son to shakedown governments throughout this state. MR. DESOUZA: Really? MR. SWEETAPPLE: For money. Yes. MR. DESOUZA: I'm here for one case. I'm not here for 12 cases, 100 cases. I'm not here for a case in Tennessee. I'm here for -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm here to amend. MR. DESOUZA: -- one case. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 128 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 M 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Kim 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 129 MR. SWEETAPPLE: That's right. And I'm going to be amending and bringing claims in this case that we're going to relate to all these other cases, so allow me to take my discovery. Your client's filed 12 lawsuits just in his name. Certainly he is not in a rush not to be deposed. He apparently wants to be deposed. He wants to tell a story. He has all these claims that we need to find out about. So let me find out about this claim, and exactly what he's doing and how he wants to litigate, okay? MR. DESOUZA: I would love for you to do that, obviously. I would love for you to ask about this claim at some point, before -- let's see, it's 2:05 now. We started at 9:30. I don't think I have heard a single question today about this claim, this lawsuit, or the allegations you have raised in your motion to dismiss. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Well, then -- MR. DESOUZA: Maybe I'm not paying attention. But I don't think I've heard a single question. MR. SWEETAPPLE: It's not my job to educate you. If you think that's the case, then God bless you. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 a 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 130 Okay, Mr. O'Boyle -- THE WITNESS: May the Lord be with you. MR. DESOUZA: Thank you. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Boyle, so do you think it is appropriate, when you were involved in the litigation with trying to assist your daughter in her criminal matters, and you were filing -- flying banners calling Mr. McAuliffe a jerk, without telling me what was said, did you ever talk to any attorneys about whether or not that was appropriate? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And without telling me what was said, when you have, in this litigation, called Mr. Morgan, the mayor, a putz during this litigation, have you spoken with any attorneys as to whether or not that was appropriate? A. No. Q. And you do think it's appropriate in this litigation to publicly defame me? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. MR. TAYLOR: Objection. Legal conclusion. THE WITNESS: It is a legal question. I can't answer it. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 131 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Do you think it is appropriate for you to make statements that I, as a member of the bar, is misrepresenting the law or facts? A. I'm sorry. Say that again. Q. To make public statements that I'm misrepresenting the law or facts or have done that; do you think it's appropriate for you to do that publicly during this litigation? A. I still didn't catch what you said. Can you say it again? Q. I'll withdraw it. MR. DESOUZA: Just for the record, I do think that was a relevant question, 2:07 p.m. MR. SWEETAPPLE: You have continued to make facetious comments throughout the deposition, to make speaking objections -- MR. DESOUZA: I think it was relevant. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't need you to comment on whether you think something is relevant. You think relevancy even matters in a deposition. You think settlement discussions can't be discussed in a deposition. MR. DESOUZA: I didn't say that. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I really don't need you to Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 132 comment on whether something is relevant or not. You're not the judge, and that's not the legal standard. So that's one reason I don't put much credence in your preaching to me. MR. DESOUZA: Are you the judge, Bob? MR. SWEETAPPLE: No, I'm not. And I would like to take a deposition. MR. DESOUZA: Why don't you continue? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Thank you. THE WITNESS: Can I be the judge? MR. DESOUZA: Not today. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Now, as a result of your daughter's case, you and your wife filed a civil suit against the Stofts, correct? A. I don't know if my wife was involved, but I think we did. Q. She was the plaintiff as well, don't you recall that? A. No. Q. And you allege that you were emotionally -- you had pain and suffering because you saw the video of your daughter's DUI test, right? A. I believe, I don't remember the exact -- exactly what was there, but something akin to that, yes. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 133 Q. And then Judge Crow threw those claims out also, right? MR. DESOUZA: Objection to form. THE WITNESS: I'm not sure what happened. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And you were sanctioned and your attorneys were sanctioned in that litigation just this year, weren't you? A. I don't think I was sanctioned, but I don't know. Q. You don't recall that? A. I said I don't know that. Q. Were you aware that fees were awarded under 57.105? A. No. MR. SMITH: Who was that against? MR. SWEETAPPLE: The Stofts. Randy and Janice Stoft. MR. DESOUZA: That's who the case was filed against. MR. SMITH: That's what I was asking. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Yeah. Mr. Witmer was the attorney from the O'Boyle Law Firm. Randy Stoft, the architect, and his former wife. MR. SMITH: Thank you. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 134 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. Now, you asked to -- strike that. Did you ask or did your attorney, Mr. Ring, ask to have a meeting with Mr. Randolph and Ms. O'Connor in June of this year? A. I believe Mr. Ring asked to have a meeting for the purposes of the settlement conference. Q. A settlement conference of what? A. To try to settle whatever case was hot at the time. I don't remember. Q. Whatever case or cases? A. Whatever case or cases. Q. Okay. And was the purpose to discuss the motion to disqualify the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I think that was one of the purposes, yes. Q. And was Mr. Ring counsel in any of the cases that were pending at that time? A. You'd have to ask him. Q. Well, he wasn't counsel in any of the cases that were pending at that time, was he, Mr. O'Boyle? You know that. MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Asked and answered. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Don't you know that Mr. Ring was not serving as an attorney in any of the cases on June 4, 2014? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ME 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 135 MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Same question, three times. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Can you answer that? A. You -- I guess you know the answer, so... Q. I want to know if you know the answer. A. The answer is I don't know. I don't. But if you tell me the question again I might change my mind. Q. In June of 2004 was Mr. Ring an employee of the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. Don't know. MR. DESOUZA: You said 2004. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. 2014. Was he, in 2014, in June, was Mr. Ring a member of the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. I do not know. Q. What is your relationship with Mr. Ring? A. Mr. Ring used to -- he's a former employee. Q. When was he your employee? A. Previously. Q. For how long? A. I don't know. Q. More than ten years? A. I think so. Q. More than 20 years? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 M 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 136 A. No. Q. What companies has he worked for? A. I don't know. Q. Do you know of any companies he worked for? A. No. Q. Is he a member of the Florida Bar? A. Yes. Q. How long has he been a member of the Florida A. I don't know. Q. Has he served on any not - for - profits at your request such as Citizens Awareness Foundation? A. I think he was an officer at one time, yes. Q. Did you appoint him to that position? A. I don't think so. Q. And you're sure of that? A. I just said I don't think so. Q. Didn't you have discussions with Mr. Joel Chandler as to who you were going to appoint to be the directors of the Citizens Awareness Foundation? A. No, because I didn't make the appointments. Q. You didn't. And Ms. De Larmartini became a director as well, didn't she? A. I believe so. Q. And how long has Ms. De Larmartini worked for Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you? Page 137 A. Well, first of all, they don't work for me. They work for companies. And Ms. De Larmartini, off and on, 25 years or so. Q. Is she a paralegal? A. She is. Q. And what -- in the last three years, which of your companies or companies you're related to have -- related with, paid her salaries? A. Don't know. Q. Has she worked at the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. No. I shouldn't say no. Not to my knowledge. Q. Does she ever attend O'Boyle Law Firm meetings? A. I don't know. Q. Has she ever indicated to Mr. Chandler that she expects that he produce 100 cases a month by filing public records requests throughout the state, so that attorneys' fees can be forwarded to the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. No. MR. SMITH: Object to the form of that question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You never asked that question? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 138 A. No. Q. So there are no a -mails from Ms. De Larmartini where she is administering the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. Well, she may have. I haven't seen an e -mail. But there could be an e -mail confirming Mr. Chandler's memorandum where he said, I will produce 100 lawsuits a month. Q. And you are not aware that Miss -- are you aware Ms. De Larmartini has worked for the O'Boyle Law Firm and made a demand of Mr. Chandler to provide 100 lawsuits to the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR. SMITH: Object to the form. MR. DESOUZA: Same. THE WITNESS: I think that's an untruth. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And Ms. De Larmartini works for the Commerce Group? A. Yes. Q. And she works for the Citizens Awareness Foundation? A. Yes. Q. And she works for the O'Boyle Law Firm, correct? A. No. MR. DESOUZA: Can we slow down a little bit so Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 139 if there's an objection we can actually get it out. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. She does work for the O'Boyle Law Firm, doesn't she? A. No. Q. She has conducted meetings of the O'Boyle Law Firm and gone over entire case lists of the O'Boyle Law Firm with lawyers in the O'Boyle Law Firm and Mr. Chandler, hasn't she? MR. SMITH: Object to the form. MR. DESOUZA: Same objection. THE WITNESS: Not to my knowledge. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You're not aware that Ms. De Larmartini is actively involved in the administration of the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR. SMITH: Object to the form. Argumentative. Assumes facts. MR. DESOUZA: Same. THE WITNESS: I don't know how to even answer that. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. How about truthfully? Are you aware that Ms. De Larmartini, who has been with you for 25 years, is not only working for the Commerce Group and working Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 140 for Citizens Awareness Foundation, but is also running or assisting in the administration of the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR. TAYLOR MR. SMITH: MR. DESOUZA: THE WITNESS: BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Objection. Asked and answered. Objection to form. Same objection. Is there a question? Q. Yes. Are you aware that that's what's occurring? MR. SMITH: Object to form. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And didn't you and your son, Jonathan O'Boyle, meet with Joel Chandler in January of 2014 for the purpose of forming Citizens Awareness Foundation in order to front litigation to the O'Boyle Law Firm which was going to be formed at the same time? A. No. MR. SMITH: Object to the form. MR. DESOUZA: Same. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And didn't you agree to pay Mr. Chandler $120,000 a year to go around the state and to file public records request lawsuits? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 141 F-AVENEV067 Q. And are you aware that Ms. De Larmartini in writing has demanded that Mr. Chandler produce to the O'Boyle Law Firm a hundred lawsuits a month? MR. SMITH: Object to the form. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware of the windfall profit scheme that is used by the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR. SMITH: Objection. MR. TAYLOR: Object. MR. DESOUZA: Objection. MR. SMITH: Come on, Bob. You know better than that. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware -- do you know who Mr. Chandler is? A. Yes. He's a crook. Q. Are you aware that he has contacted various victims of your and the O'Boyle Law Firm's practices and made these victims aware of what he alleges are fraudulent and criminal activities? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. MR. SMITH: Objection. MR. TAYLOR: Objection. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 142 THE WITNESS: I'm not aware of that. But I am aware that he committed bankruptcy fraud. That, I am aware of. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware that the Citizens Awareness Foundation has sued Mr. Chandler to try to get him to be quiet about the things that he's going around telling attorneys throughout the state that you're involved in? MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. MR. SMITH: Object to form. Bob, you know you're making speeches. You're not asking questions. You've been doing this for 34 years, you're making speeches. MR. DESOUZA: Are you aware that he did this to silence them. Give me a break, Bob. Why don't you ask some questions that are actually going to generate some answers so we can all go home at some point today. (Defendant's Exhibit No. 6 was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let me show you what I'm going to mark as the next exhibit, Mr. O'Boyle. It was a lawsuit filed by the alleged Citizens Awareness Foundation. Do you know what the Citizens Awareness Foundation is? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 143 A. It's a company. Q. You caused it to be formed, didn't you? A. I don't know that I caused it to be formed. I don't think so. Q. Well, Mr. Ring did at your direction, right? A. I'm not going to answer that. I'm not going to answer that. Q. And you discussed with Mr. Chandler that the Citizens Awareness Foundation was going to be an entity that was going to go around the state and make public records requests and generate lawsuits, right? A. No. Q. No? A. Wrong. Q. And did you offer to pay Mr. Chandler $120,000 a year to go around the state and file lawsuits? A. No. Q. Prepare lawsuits? A. No. Q. And did you -- was Mr. Chandler hired by Citizens Awareness Foundation the same day that it was formed? A. I have no idea. Q. And you agreed to pay Mister -- strike that. Did you ever fund any money to Citizens Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 M 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Awareness Foundation, Inc? Page 144 A. I'm not sure I'm understanding. Q. Did you or your entities ever put money into a Citizen Awareness Foundation, Inc., bank account? A. Okay. I don't know how the -- how the bank accounts are set up, but the company absolutely had to be funded. If it had to be funded I, or one of my entities, would have funded it. We wouldn't have gotten pennies from heaven. Q. So the entity was funded by you or one of your entities, right? A. I think so. Q. And it's in the same -- does Mr. Chandler have his offices in the same place as the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. No. Q. He didn't meet in the same building in the same space as the O'Boyle Law Firm? A. No. Q. And did the Citizens Awareness Foundation, Inc., agree to pay Mr. Chandler $120,000 a year? A. You already asked me that. Q. Where did he get that money? All from you, correct? A. You already asked me that, too. Q. Did all 120,000 that was committed for his Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 145 salary come from you or your companies? A. To the best of my knowledge it did, but I can't say for sure. Q. And has the Citizens Awareness Foundation filed lawsuits throughout the state of Florida for public records violations? A. I mean, I'm assuming, yes. But I have no personal knowledge. Q. Okay. Well, you called Mr. Chandler after he quit, after he resigned, and asked him to deliver the balance of the cases to the O'Boyle Law Firm, and sent him an e-mail to that effect, didn't you? A. I think what I sent him an e -mail and called him was, was for him to give us back the property he stole. Q. What property did he steal? A. Well, during the period of time he had a contract, and it said that any -- I'm going to call them "deals." Any deals between point A and point B were ours. And as we decided to do a little bit of research, we started finding out in various parts of the state where he was -- during all that time he wasn't giving us the deals, he was giving him the deals. We also came to -- Q. Who is the "us" that he wasn't giving the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 M 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 0 r1 Page 146 deals to? A. Pardon? Q. You mean the lawsuits? A. Yeah. He wasn't giving -- in other words, where he filed a lawsuit, he would keep it on his own, and then what he would do, he would have no lawyer. He would file a lawsuit, and then he would go to Dan DeSouza or some corporation and say, look, I just filed a lawsuit against you. If you give me $1,500 we can settle it fast and cheap. And that's all there is to it. He also was filing as an indigent. He wasn't paying his filing fees. I don't know if you're aware of that. Q. So he had an agreement to refer all violations of open government laws in court -- encountered in the course of his duties to legal counsel approved by Citizens Awareness Foundation, right? A. Can you read that again? Q. Didn't Mr. Chandler have an agreement with you to refer violations of open government laws encountered in the course of his duties to legal counsel approved by the Foundation? MR. DESOUZA: Objection. You said you or with the Citizens Awareness -- Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Pagc 147 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Citizens Awareness group and Mr. Chandler had that agreement, right? A. I had nothing to do with Citizens Awareness. Q. You have nothing to do with Citizens Awareness? A. Nothing. Q. You're funding it, right? You're the only one funding it. A. I'm allowed to make loans. Q. So you've loaned money to them; is that what you're saying? A. I'm allowed to make loans. Q. You have promissory notes with Citizens Awareness Foundation? A. I'm allowed to make loans. Q. Have you made loans to Citizens Awareness Foundation? A. To my knowledge, either I have, or entities that I control have. Now, that's the fourth time you've asked me. If you like, I can write it down and I can hold it up each time. Q. Are there any promissory notes for these loans? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 i7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 148 A. Maybe. I don't know. Q. Which entities made the loans? A. I have no -- Q. How much has been loaned? MR. DESOUZA: Hold on. Hold on. Let him finish the answer before you jump to the next one. I can't make my objections like this. You guys are both... BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. How much has been loaned, Mr. O'Boyle? A. I don't know. Q. And before, before the entity was formed, you gave Mr. Chandler money so he could travel around the state and go set up public records lawsuits, right? A. I don't think so. Q. And he had use of your personal credit card, correct? A. He needed -- he told me he needed a credit card, which in today's world you need a credit card to get a hotel, a car, so forth. And we ordered an extra credit card. And they put that extra credit card, I think, in my name. But I'm not -- whether it was my name or not, it was my credit card. Q. But you negotiated with Mr. Chandler the terms of his employment with Citizens Awareness Foundation, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 L7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Inc., right? Page 149 A. No. Q. There are a -mails where you go over all those details with him, correct? A. What are you saying? Q. Aren't there a -mails where you and Mr. Chandler and your son and Mr. Witmer discussed not only forming the O'Boyle Law Firm for purposes of fronting public records requests to the law firm, but also all the terms of his employment? Strike that. I'll break it down. Didn't you exchange a -mails with Mr. Chandler where you negotiated the terms of his employment? A. I don't think so. Q. And didn't you require from Mr. Chandler that all of the lawsuits that he was able to generate for Citizens Awareness Foundation would be fronted to your son's law firm? MR. DESOUZA: Objection to form. MR. TAYLOR: Objection. MR. SMITH: Objection. THE WITNESS: I don't think so. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware whether or not there are a -mails between Mr. Chandler where he attempted to have Mr. Ring Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 150 allow lawsuits to be filed to others, by other law firms, and it was instructed by Ms. De Larmartini and Mr. Ring that all law firms that were filed by the "Citizens Awareness Foundation" had to be filed by the O'Boyle Law Firm? MR. TAYLOR: Objection. Form. MR. DESOUZA: Objection. Form. THE WITNESS: I don't understand your question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Were you aware -- MR. DESOUZA: Bob, if you can reformulate it, we would like to take a quick bathroom break. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Let's take a break. MR. DESOUZA: You can reform the question. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Go ahead. Take a break. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 2:24. We're going off the record. (At 2:25 p.m. a brief a recess was taken.) (End of Volume I) Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 151 THE STATE OF FLORIDA) COUNTY OF PALM BEACH) I, the undersigned authority, certify that the aforementioned witness personally appeared before me and was duly sworn. Dated this 29th day of September, 2014. Debra Duran - Bornstein, RPR, CLR Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission Expires: 8/20/15 My Commission No.: EE 112218 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 152 C E R T I F I C A T E THE STATE OF FLORIDA) COUNTY OF PALM BEACH) I, Debra Duran - Bornstein, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at large, do hereby certify that I was authorized to and did report said deposition in stenotype; and that the foregoing pages are a true and correct transcription of my shorthand notes of said deposition. I further certify that said deposition was taken at the time and place hereinabove set forth and that the taking of said deposition was commenced and completed as hereinabove set out. I further certify that I am not attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor am I a relative or employee of any attorney or counsel of party connected with the action, nor am I financially interested in the action. The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means unless under the direct control and /or direction of the certifying reporter. Dated this 29th day of September, 2014. Debra Duran - Bornstein, RPR, CLR Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission Expires: 8/20/15 My Commission No.: EE 112218 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 September 30, 2014 NICK TAYLOR, ESQUIRE THE O'BOYLE LAW FIRM, P.C., INC. 1286 West Newport Center Drive Deerfield Beach, Florida 33442 In Re: Martin O'Boyle Vs. Town of Gulf Stream Deposition of: Martin O'Boyle The referenced transcript has been completed and awaits reading and signing. 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129:15 142:18 145:19 pointing 11:14 68:13 politicos 121:1 Partly 72:4 portion 45:548:7 79:22 110:21 111:1 portions 50:20 51:23 position 27:18 90:3 91:2,5 136:14 positions 26:5 possibly 122:25 posted 100:8 practice 11:14 64:15 70:23 practices 141:20 prayer 62:3 preaches 53:20 preaching 132:4 precedence 48:13, 25 precedent 35:14 preceding 34:20 precludes 23:16 premise 7:2 premises 59:15 Prepare 143:18 prepared 68:19 69:24 83:8 89:22 presume 10:15 pretty 14:18 previously 10:25 135:20 primary 95:17,20, 23 prior 75:579:19 private 59:19 100:20 privilege 56:9 103:24 110:14,16 privileged 37:22 pro 70:4,11,18 proceed 12:20 92:1,6,7 proceeding 15:17, 18 34:10 36:5,6 40:15 69:22 proceeds 24:14 process 12:22 87:19 119:15 produce 137:17 138:6 141:3 profession 88:11 professional 5:4 116:24 profit 7:15141:8 prolong 12:22 promissory 147:14,24 prompted 97:2 property 95:10,11 100:16,22 145:14, 16 propounded 97:5, 7,14 Index: personal -questions propounding 97:9 prosecuted 114:21 120:12 prosecution 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83:20,22 retracting 84:3,19 86:14 retraction 84:16 86:6,11 reveal 45:22 revealing 42:9 review 40:3,5 74:25 revolve 88:13 Ring 5:25 6:2 55:8 78:10,15 79:18 88:4,25 89:6 134:3,6,16,24 135:9,14,17,18 143:5 149:25 150:3 Robert 6:629:4 Rogers 72:4 room 13:246:21 71:5 Ross 72:5 rotten 127:14 Roden 34:10 35:9 rule 35:20 90:22 ruled 34:12 110:3 ruling 38:25 rulings 34:21 run 65:3 running 16:10 65:22,25 140:1 rush 129:6 S salaries 137:9 salary 145:1 sales 77:16,20,24 78:3,7,18 sanction 71:23,24 sanctionable 35:17 sanctioned 22:3 33:5 127:10 133:6, 7,9 sanctioning 71:18 126:17 sanctions 22:20 27:17 33:13 35:18 38:4 59:18 126:21, 22 Sandy 16:6 Sara 114:19 save 98:17 Scatological 102:19 scheme 13:13 141:8 school 11:23 12:2, 3 55:17 seconds 82:5 secretaries 28:17 seek 41:661:21 seeking 97:24 119:6,9,10 120:16 send 30:2 sending 32:20 sense 56:7 separate 77:6 separately 77:5 September 5:9 109:7 sequentially 88:16 served 87:16 119:13 136:11 server 87:19 services 7:8,10 9:1 65:13 66:11,16 79:5 serving 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solved 127:25 son 40:13 56:10,13, 2157:15 68:2,12, 14 69:9 70:4,11,18 112:7 128:17 140:14 149:7 son's 41:2155:9, 2170:23 88:14 149:18 sort 42:9 61:3 90:7 98:1,8,9 sought 110:1 sources 85:19 South 113:11 Southern 37:3 space 58:8 77:2,6, 14,25 144:17 spade 126:7 speak 39:21 speaking 23:8 37:18 38:11, 131:17 speakings 38:2 Special 68:16 specific 81:7 specifically 83:18 84:2 speculate 11:7 speculating 76:9 speeches 142:11, 13 spell 112:1 spend 109:3 121:15 spite 99:24 100:12 spoke 46:2 spoken 130:16 spot 101:19 spouse 29:13 35:25 36:1 spouse's 35:24 Stacy 7:22,23,24 9:12,16 stage 116:14,17,24 stake 108:22 stand 72:2103:23 standard 23:5 60:10 132:3 start 23:1188:22 89:17 97:9 started 12:8 129:16 145:21 state 5:56:2020:4, 8 40:23 50:16 51:22 57:16,19 78:6 118:2,14,16, 17 121:23 122:1 123:7 124:10 137:18 140:24 142:8 143:10,16 145:5,21 148:14 stated 25:25 29:16 39:7 43:12,13, 47:14 71:8 117:17 122:3 statement 27:16 38:15 41:13 47:17 48:15,16,17,19,20, 22 50:24,25 51:1,2, 21,24 57:17 65:12 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5:14 summer 70:6,11 Supreme 48:13,24 110:6 surprising 34:25 Susie 98:5 Sweet 121:10 122:5,17 Sweetapple 5:19 62,6,11,19 9:8 17:4 22:15 23:3, 15,2124:4,16,23 25:9 27:6,14 29:1, 4,16 30:23 31:5 32:20,23 33:10,16, 2136:18 37:9,14, 18,24 38:6,8,15,19, 23 39:4 41:2,15,18 42:13,24 43:5,11, 22 44:2,14,24 45:9, 24 46:10,20,24 47:10,15 48:3,10 49:5,21 50:1 51:9 55:1,12,15,24 56:19 57:1,6,12 59:20 60:3,9,12 62:20,23 63:4,17, 23 64:4,14,23 65:8 66:1,6 68:5,10,24 69:1,4,7 72:20,25 73:7,18,2174:5,15, 20 75:1,22 76:16 78:14,24 79:23 80:18 81:5 82:17 83:25 84:21,23 85:4,7,13,24 86:2 89:5,18 90:9,19 91:8,10,13 92:1,8, 16,19 93:3,7,11,17 94:10 99:1 100:4, Index: spouse's- thoughtful 19 101:5,14 102:9, 15 103:1,8 104:2, 14 105:16 107:8 110:19 111:4 112:21 114:14 117:1,6,18 119:17 121:9,19 123:13,22 125:16 126:5,11,15 127:4,23 128:3,5,7, 13,20,24 129:1,20, 23 130:4 131:1,15, 19,25 132:6,9,12 133:5,17,22 134:1, 23 135:3,13 137:24 138:15 139:2,13,22 140:8,13,22 141:7, 15 142:4,21 147:1 148:9 149:23 150:10,14,16 Sweetapple's 13:4 50:16 81:13,82:22 99:16 sworn 6:15 T T206 111:20 taking 23:626:5 86:7 92:14 talk 32:24 34:7 89:9 102:20 126:10,14,25 127:2 130:10 talking 26:23,25 29:6,1145:10 48:16,19,20 62:18 63:15 101:3 127:5 Tallahassee 45:19 tape 84:5 tax 77:16,20,24 78:3,7,18 Taylor 5:20 78:21 102:23 125:14 130:22 140:4 141:11,25 149:20 150:6 televised 54:6,7 television 54:13 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 telling 84:14 130:9,13 142:7 Temple 29:3,18 ten 10:13,1423:25 110:13 111:17 113:20 126:19 135:23 tenant 59:6,9 tenants 31:21,23 77:25 78:3,8,19 Tennessee 19:3,7, 10,13 20:7 24:19 25:1,12,16,25 26:9 27:17 28:22 33:5, 14 71:8,13 72:8 126:19 128:23 term 103:12 terms 62:13 67:3, 6,8 75:17 148:24 149:10,13 test 132:23 testified 6:16 15:14,17,20 16:21, 22 18:1,8 26:13,20 33:1172:2 testify 14:17,19 17:18 18:3 42:5 testifying 15:16 18:12 testimony 14:16 26:17,19 47:16 76:15,17 80:6,12 82:18 91:24 testy 80:21 text 9:16,20 things 8:19,22 11:13,15 29:9 102:21 142:7 thinking 19:14,15 thought 11:23 21:20 53:10,13 87:3 92:18 98:12, 13 115:7 120:23 125:5 thoughtful 35:22 thousand 97:16 Thrasher 6:10,11 52:14 threaten 127:15 threw 133:1 thug 124:14,16,19, 21 tie 127:24 Tim 112:3 time 5:9,1710:6 12:18 17:126:13, 14 38:3 39:1150:7 51:8 57:7,10 69:11,20 81:4 82:10 83:24 85:18 90:23 93:12,15 95:24 98:17 104:15,19 105:14 106:1 110:9 111:16,17 113:10, 15 114:22 121:2 122:22 134:10,17, 20 136:13 140:18 145:17,22 147:21, 23 150:17 times 10:11 18:12 30:22 31:3 78:23 82:3,5 115:12 116:10 135:2 title 96:3 titled 29:3 today 13:7,16 14:9,16 24:11 38:20 61:10 74:19 79:25 129:17 132:11 142:18 today's 148:19 token 14:6 told 10:15,25 17:11 18:13 21:19,20 36:9 37:15 47:18 49:3,22 51:19 52:2,16,19 84:4 88:1 148:18 tolerate 38:17 tonight 23:24 128:11,14 topic 32:18,19,20 33:1 120:15 total 97:13 totally 59:17 totals 119:22 touched 82:9 town 5:12 6:7 10:3 11:25 30:3,4,6 32:9,2143:17 45:4 46:247:1 51:8,19 52:1,2,10,16,23 53:8,10,11,12,14 55:2156:20 60:24 61:18 69:16 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72:14 93:23 107:1,19 vice 70:5,11,18 victims 141:20,21 video 5:8 44:7 132:22 videotape 8:8 13:4 videotapes 54:11, 12 violation 94:15 violations 95:13 97:2 100:14 145:6 146:14,20 Volume 150:20 voluntary 101:19 volunteer 8:11 vote 95:5 124:25 voter's 95:25 W wait 10:413:21,25 14:2,6 92:10,11 waiting 33:17 51:9 waive 90:7 walk 86:17 walked 13:2 wanted 33:18 88:25 warranted 35:18 Watch 27:5 ways 91:11 wears 98:5 week 30:10,15,17 31:7 52:14 55:7 weeks 12:14 well - established 48:12,24 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Index: thousand- Wortley well- informed 35:21 West 5:14 6:24 31:1158:8,16 78:4 whoa 20:15 widely 116:22 wife 19:22 95:16 96:3,132:14,16 133:24 William 5:25 win 87:8 windfall 141:8 withdraw 84:23, 25 85:11 131:12 withdrawing 85:4,8 Witmer 133:22 149:7 witnesses 41:9 worded 34:16 words 47:19 50:10 52:2153:12 70:17 84:18 125:11 127:5 146:4 work 9:440:12 42:179:8 137:2, 139:3 worked 8:18,20 101:16 136:2,4,25 137:11 138:9 workers 99:24 100:11 working 7:15 8:14,16 139:25 works 8:1228:13 100:9 138:16,19,22 world 40:156:10, 1163:16 148:19 worry 88:23 worse 26:18 worth 74:3 Wortley 33:21 36:5 write 12:15,16,21 84:8 147:22 writer 108:10,14 121:6,8,9 writing 11:13 12:18 67:12 141:3 written 10:23 26:9 34:14 62:9,11 63:5,10 76:11,18 79:1180:8 wrong 12:10 36:22 143:14 wrote 11:5 Y yard 100:9 year 12:4 15:20 33:24 55:18 69:10 127:1 133:7 134:5 140:24 143:16 144:20 years 15:11 17:10, 12,21 18:23,24,25 21:12 23:25 29:17 34:6 59:5 78:1 95:18,22 99:3 110:13 112:17,24 113:8,12,13,17,19, 20 114:25 115:4 120:21 126:20 127:24 135:23,25 137:4,7 139:24 142:12 young 22:1128:12 71:7 Z zoning 97:1 100:14 101:18 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Index: write— zoning