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McCall City Council
Regular Meeting
McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall
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September 28, 2023
Call to Order and Roll Call
Pledge of Allegiance
Approve the Agenda
Consent Agenda
Public Comment
Public Hearing
Business Agenda
Adjournment
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
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Mayor Giles called the regular meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m.
Mayor Giles, Council Member Maciaszek, Council Member Nelson, Council Member
Nielsen, and Council Member Thrower all answered roll call.
City staff members present were Bill Punkoney City Attorney; BessieJo Wagner, City Clerk; Sarah
Porter, Deputy Clerk; Erin Greaves, Communications Manager; Linda Stokes, City Treasurer;
Michelle Groenevelt, Community Development Director; Meg Lojek, Library Director; Chris
Curtin, Information Systems Manager; Dallas Palmer, Police Chief; Nathan Stewart, Public Works
Director; Sean Reilly, Network Administrator.
Mayor Giles led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVE THE AGENDA
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Council Member Nielsen moved to approve the agenda as submitted. Council Member
Maciaszek seconded the motion. In a voice vote all members voted aye, and the motion
carried.
CONSENT AGENDA
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Staff recommended approval of the following ACTION ITEMS. All matters which are listed
within the consent section of the agenda have been distributed to each member of the McCall City
Council for reading and study. The items listed are considered routine by the Council and were
enacted with one motion.
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1. Payroll Report for the period ending September 15, 2023
2. Warrant Register — GL
3. Warrant Register — Vendor
4. AB 23-196 City Licenses Report to Council Per McCall City Code
Per McCall City Code Title 4 Chapter 9, the City Council has determined the City Clerk
shall be delegated the authority to process and grant or deny all alcoholic beverage license
applications, other than certain circumstances involving catering permits, which the City
Clerk shall review the application for catering permit for completeness and forward said
application to the Police Chief. The Police Chief upon receipt of the application shall make
a recommendation to the City Clerk to approve or deny the application. Whenever the City
Clerk shall determine that an application for alcoholic beverage license transfer or renewal
is complete, the City Clerk shall approve or deny such application. All decisions of the City
Clerk shall be reported to the City Council at the next regularly scheduled City Council
meeting after such a decision. The City Clerk is also responsible for all processing of
business, taxi, snow removal, pawnbroker, child daycare licenses, vendor and short-term
rental permits, and public event applications. Action: Review the report
5. AB 23-192 Treasurer's Report as Required by IC 50-208
Treasurer's report of accounts and activity of office during the month of August 2023
regarding care, management or disposition of moneys, property, or business of the City.
Action: review the report
6. AB 23-194 Request to Proclaim October 2023 as Arts and Humanities Month
October is National Arts & Humanities Month (NAHM)—a coast -to -coast collective
recognition of the importance of culture in America. NAHM was launched by Americans
for the Arts more than 30 years ago as National Arts Week in honor of the twentieth
anniversary of the National Endowment for the Arts. In 1993, it was reestablished by
Americans for the Arts and national arts partners as a month -long celebration, with goals
of: FOCUSING on equitable access to the arts at local, state, and national levels;
ENCOURAGING individuals, organizations, and diverse communities to participate in the
arts; ALLOWING governments and businesses to show their support of the arts; and
RAISING public awareness about the role the arts and humanities play in our communities
and lives. National Arts & Humanities Month is the time for communities to come together
in unified celebration of the power of the arts to make a difference and change our lives for
the better. National Arts & Humanities Month is an opportunity to recognize and celebrate
the positive impact the arts bring to our schools and communities therefore to support the
national proclamation of Arts and Humanities, staff requests that Council proclaim October
as Arts and Humanities month in McCall. Action: Proclaim October 2023 as Arts and
Humanities Month and authorize the Mayor to sign all necessary documents.
7. AB 23-195 Request to Proclaim October 8-14, 2023 as Fire Prevention Week —
"Cooking safety starts with YOU."
The City of McCall, Idaho is committed to ensuring the safety and security of all those
living in and visiting the City. Fire is a serious public safety concern both locally and
nationally, and homes are the locations where people are at greatest risk from fire. This
year's Fire Prevention WeekTM (FPWTM) campaign, "Cooking safety starts with YOU".
Pay attention to fire preventionTM, works to educate everyone about simple but important
actions they can take to keep themselves and those around them safe when cooking.
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Cooking fires are the leading cause of home fires and home fire injuries. Unattended
cooking is the leading cause of cooking fires and deaths. In a fire, mere seconds can mean
the difference between a safe escape and a tragedy. Fire safety education isn't just for
school children. Teenagers, adults, and the elderly are also at risk in fires, making it
important for every member of the community to take some time every October during
Fire Prevention Week to make sure they understand how to stay safe in case of a fire. Since
1922, the NFPA has sponsored the public observance of Fire Prevention Week. In 1925,
President Calvin Coolidge proclaimed Fire Prevention Week a national observance,
making it the longest -running public health observance in our country. During Fire
Prevention Week, children, adults, and teachers learn how to stay safe in case of a fire.
Firefighters provide lifesaving public education to drastically decrease casualties caused
by fires. Fire Prevention Week is observed each year during the week of October 9th in
commemoration of the Great Chicago Fire, which began on October 8, 1871, and caused
devastating damage. This horrific conflagration killed more than 250 people, left 100,000
homeless, destroyed more than 17,400 structures, and burned more than 2,000 acres of
land. Action: Proclaim October 8-14, 2023 as Fire Prevention Week throughout the City
of McCall and authorize the Mayor to sign the proclamation.
Council Member Nelson moved to approve the Consent Agenda as submitted. Council
Member Maciaszek seconded the motion. In a roll call vote Council Member Nelson, Council
Member Maciaszek, Mayor Giles, Council Member Nielsen, and Council Member Thrower
all voted aye, and the motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT
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Mayor Giles called for public comment at 5:33 p.m.
Two written comments are included as attachment A.
David Gallipoli, 405 Floyd St
Mr. Gallipoli addressed the City Council regarding a pending decision by the Valley County
Commissioners to change density zoning in the County. Mr. Gallipoli noted that this would
influence development in the county but also have an effect on the cities within the county.
Joey Petri, 225 Valley Springs Rd
Mr. Petri addressed the City Council also regarding density and affordable housing. Mr. Petri
expressed disappointment at not being included on the Housing Advisory Committee previously.
Additionally, Mr. Petri asked the city and the County to allow citizens to get creative in bringing
affordable housing to the area.
Hearing no further comments, Mayor Giles closed the comment period at 5:39 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING
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AB 23-193 Wildlife Feeding Project — Recap and Request to Adopt an Ordinance Amending
McCall City Code 5.7.010 and Enacting McCall City Code 5.7.400 — Prohibiting the
Feeding or Attracting of Wildlife
Council Member Nelson moved to Open the Public Hearing to consider the Ordinance
prohibiting the feeding and Attracting of Wildlife. Council Member Nielsen seconded the
motion. In a voice call vote, all voted aye, and the motion carried.
Police Chief Dallas Palmer and Communications Manager Erin Greaves presented to the City
Council. Manager Greaves reviewed how the meeting and public hearing were noticed to the
public including the Star News, social media, and the City Website. On April 27, 2023, the Council
directed staff to move forward with a multi -step plan regarding wildlife education and outreach
surrounding the proposal of a wildlife ordinance. On May 4, 2023, the City hosted a Wildlife
Conversation to collect public opinion on short-term and long-term wildlife goals, as well as a
possible feeding ordinance, with the intention of utilizing the discussion to support a healthy wild
deer population in and around McCall. On June 8, 2023, staff presented the Council with a
summary of public opinion from the Wildlife Conversation meeting, along with other takeaways
derived from survey outreach, and introduced options moving forward. On August 3, 2023, staff
presented the Council with matrix data collected from other communities via the Wildlife Feeding
Questionnaire, provided an opportunity for the Council to ask questions of additional wildlife
professionals, and provided the Council with a draft Wildlife Feeding Ordinance for review. On
September 14, 2023, staff presented an updated draft Wildlife Feeding Ordinance that had been
amended by staff and legal counsel after careful review of recommendations from wildlife
professionals.
The City Council expressed appreciation for the work put in by staff on the research and outreach
to the public involved in the process.
Mayor Giles called for public comment at 5:49 p.m.
Seven written comments are included as Attachment B.
David Gallipoli, 405 Floyd St
Mr. Gallipoli noted enjoying seeing deer in the wild, the deer are cautious and leap and run away.
The town deer problem is human caused because many ignore the overwhelming science that tells
us not to feed wildlife. Humans also continue to destroy wildlife habitat and corridors, with
development contributing to more wildlife human encounters that always end badly for the
wildlife. At previous meeting, Mr. Gallipoli commented that the fine for feeding wildlife in
Yellowstone National Park was $5000. If wildlife must be killed due to human stupidity, the
penalty can be $10,000 or more banned from the park and jail. Last week, the City Council of San
Diego banned tourists from 2 beaches because tourists were harassing sea lions. The ordinance is
a step in the right direction but trash from short term rentals still poses an issue. Mr. Gallipoli also
noted disagreement with the low fine included in the ordinance and thanked the City Council and
staff.
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Joey Petri, 225 Valley Springs Rd
Mr. Petri thanked the staff and Council for putting so much energy into the topic because it is an
important topic.
Hearing no further comments, Mayor Giles closed the comment period at 5:53 p.m.
Chief Palmer addressed the City Council noting the goal of education first and enforcement second
as well as maintaining a great relationship with the community. The ordinance is a step forward to
make a difference.
Council Member Maciaszek moved to close the Public Hearing to consider the Ordinance
prohibiting the feeding and Attracting of Wildlife.. Council Member Nielsen seconded the
motion. In a voice vote, all voted aye, and the motion carried.
The City Council's consensus was appreciation for staff, legal counsel and the public input
involved in addressing the controversial topic. Council Member Thrower response to public
comment regarding trash being left out noting the Ordinance is not just in relation to intentional
feeding but unintentional feeding.
Council Member Nelson moved to suspend the rules and read by title only one-time only
Ordinance No. 1022. Council Member Nielsen seconded the motion. In a roll call vote,
Council Member Nelson, Council Member Nielsen, Mayor Giles, Council Member
Maciaszek, and Council Member Thrower all voted aye, and the motion carried.
City Clerk BessieJo Wagner read Ordinance No. 1022 by title only, onetime only:
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF McCALL, VALLEY COUNTY, IDAHO, AMENDING TITLE
5, PUBLIC SAFETY, CHAPTER 7, ANIMAL CONTROL, OF THE McCALL CITY CODE, TO -
WIT: AMENDING SECTION 5.7.010, DEFINITIONS, TO ADD THE FOLLOWING
DEFINITIONS: ATTRACTING/ATTRACTANT, BIRDS, EDIBLE MATERIAL, FEEDING/FEED,
HABITUATED, PUBLIC EMPLOYEE, SQUIRRELS, WATERFOWL, WILD TURKEY,
WILDLIFE AND AMEND THE DEFINITION FOR IMPOUNDED; ENACTING SECTION
5.7.400, FEEDING/ATTRACTING WILDLIFE PROHIBITION, TO PROHIBIT THE FEEDING
OR ATTRACTING OF WILDLIFE WITHIN THE McCALL CITY LIMITS AND PROVIDING
PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION; DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
Council Member Nelson moved to adopt Ordinance No. 1022 Amending McCall City Code
5.7.010 and Enacting McCall City Code 5.7.400 prohibiting the feeding or attracting of
wildlife within the McCall city limits, approve the summary for publication, and authorize
the mayor to sign all necessary documents. Council Member Maciaszek seconded the motion.
In a roll call vote, Council Member Nelson, Council Member Maciaszek, Mayor Giles,
Council Member Nielsen, and Council Member Thrower all voted aye, and the motion
carried.
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BUSINESS AGENDA
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Upcoming Meetings Schedule Discussion
The Council discussed upcoming meetings.
ADJOURNMENT
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September 28, 2023 Regular Meeting -
General Comment
Name Address Email Content
Murray 309
& Jan Edgewater
Dalgleish Circle
McCall ID
83638
Don May
3108 W
Stewart
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ID 83702
janda1309@hotmail.com
don.may.email@gmail.com
Attachment A
For 0 Against '3 Neutral 2
RE: Short term rentals in City of McCall. My husband and I have had an
Airbnb short term rental in our home since 2016, so we have 7 years of
service. We are long term residents of 47+ years, worked in the tourist
industry, and raised a family here. We would like to give some feedback on
the new requirements for STRs. Our STR is in our basement, with about
750 sq ft of space that is private and with full bath. What we now face is
that our five egress windows, even though they are large enough to fit a
human through, are 52" off the floor, 8" more than the required 44". We
have also learned that maybe we have just missed being grandfathered to
overlook this requirement. We built our home in 1979 and this was not
required of homes built around 1977/78? We are on -site managers, do our
own cleaning, meet all of our guests, and have a 5 -star rating. Our
neighbors would barely know we have a rental save for the strange car in
our carport parking for our guests. We are saddened to lose control of our
income producer as we are both retired, and this was a nice bump to our
earnings. It is also distressing that just outside the city limits none of this
applies and their rentals go on as usual. We realize that the city is going to
lose tax revenue for each and every STR that ceases to rent due to the new
requirements and be assured that the idea of making more long-term
housing will not be an option for many. For us we do not want a renter in
our home full time, making noise and creating wear and tear. STR guests
often are out doing activities all day and only sleep here and then leave
the next morning. Also, we have the option of being gone for a day or a
week by blocking off our calendar. We appreciate the focus on safety and
fire inspection, however, we never rent unless we are in the home and
available at all times. Your decision on STR regulations has these
unintended consequences of 1, reducing tax revenue; 2, reducing our
retire income; 3, moving the STR guests outside city limits, therefore,
losing tax revenue for the city. To sum up, it seems pretty arbitrary that we
have to meet guidelines that many other rentals do not, and we are faced
with no options. We hope you will consider future discussion of these
issues.
Please do not remove the waterski roof. It is absolutely beautiful. It has
become an 'instant classic' and helps identify the entire town of McCall,
Idaho to tourists. Thank you, Regular McCall tourists
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Attachment B
From: Erin Greaves
To: Sarah Porter
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Date: Thursday, September 28, 2023 2:59:21 PM
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Hi Aaron, this is Debra Stop. I'm calling because I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to make the
meeting tonight, but I had a couple things. I wanted to make sure people understood the council and
stuff. Yes, I do agree with the wildlife ordinance, definitely. I would like to see first of all more education
and I'd like to be a part of that. Once you get things going, I would definitely want to get out there and
help on this too. I'm concerned about people who live in areas where there are HOA's, because I
remember that concern was such that some of the people there said they can't put up special sensing
or whatever according to their HOA. So I'd like for us to look long term and see if we can't get that,
encouraged that HOA's take some ownership and make that change so people can do that. I would like
to also point out that I was a little concerned about the word habitual because the deer were here
before us. So the thing I have noticed with what we have done thus far, the deer in my neighborhood
are not, shall we say, seeking out as much human attention. I see them becoming more wild, kind of like
what the veterinarian and the guy from the Conservation League had talked about given a chance. And
if we back off, they're going to reacclimate into being more wild and not as dependent. I've seen that
definitely with the deer in my neighborhood that comes through, they are not necessarily looking for
attention or food from me. They just use my yard as a passageway these days and I've seen them more
skittish around other people. So I would very much to help continue educating and see what we can do
to implement this in such a way that we do so to protect our wildlife and we can still enjoy our wildlife in
town and help people to, you know, not feed them but enjoy them from afar. And when you get the
signs made-up, definitely I would even be glad to help take them around wherever. So however I can
be of help, I'd like to, but also the education very key. I thank you for your time and the Council's time
and I am looking forward to being a part of this process as we move forward. Thank you so much. Bye.
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Name Address Email Opinion Content
Attachment B
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Roger 1200 gossiroger@gmail.com For I am total agreement for city to pass ordinance to prohibit
gossi Aspen feeding wildlife. This is not beneficial to either the wildlife or
Ridge In town of mcall despite attraction for tourists and needs to be
Mccall implemented now. I have lived in McCall for over 60 years off
Id 83638 and on and have seen too many animals suffering because of
malnutrition or injury from the roads. Thanks
Kathaleen 1640 N. rkwinslow@gmail.com For I am for the ordinance to prohibit feeding deer in City limits. The
Winslow Davis fact that they became diseased and many had to be put down
#16 this year was a terrible act of cruelty. I think the deer are better
McCall served foraging on their own.
Idaho
83638
Rich & 1007 rc_lynd@msn.com For Mayor and City Council, Please pass a wildlife feeding ordinance!
Catherine Violet We have had a weekend neighborhood deer feeder for almost 10
Lynd Way years. When they come up and feed the deer with 3 large bowls,
MCCALL the deer gather and do lots of landscape damage not to mention
Idaho the danger they present when they fight for the food. We have
83638 had as many as several dozen deer and as of yesterday about 15
in my yard. Please consider passing a strong ordinance to help
stop the bad behavior of feeding. Thank you very much. Rich and
Catherine Lynd
Julie 1423 julieconrad11@yahoo.com Neutral A question for mayor Bob Giles: I heard earlier this week from a
Conrad Eagle local gentleman that you gave a recent talk/presentation at
Drive MOSS to the students and staff telling them: "It is now time to
McCall get rid of all of the deer in McCall....they are all sickly with lice
ID and Chronic Wasting Disease". That is what this gentleman who
83638 was present at your "talk" stated/paraphrased. Did he paraphrase
your presentation/comments accurately? Why would you be
propagandizing to MOSS about our local town deer? And if you
did indeed state that our local town deer have CWD, that is
entirely false. And as you must know by now, lice (whether
"chewing" or "exotic") is not an issue with regard to our town
deer. Jeff Abrams of the Idaho Conservation League Wildlife
Program stated at a recent city council meeting that the lice issue
has been foisted into the conversation regarding the town deer,
and that it is not a primary argument to justify the ordinance as
lice are naturally occurring in deer. He also stated that the lice
issue is a distraction in the city council's education efforts. Why
would you be wasting your time on spreading these mistruths
when there are so many other critical issues facing McCall? Why
the major push to eradicate our town deer? It brings to mind
your quote in the Star News from 2021: "Some people really like
seeing the cute little deer in their yard and they like seeing the
fawns in the spring," McCall Mayor Bob Giles said. "But it's not
sustainable, it's not natural." Not natural?? *What part* of an
indigenous mammal species having their offspring in the
mountains of IDAHO in a mountain town bordering a State Park
for the last 100+ years is "Not Natural"?
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Attachment B
Name Address Email Opinion Content
Julie 1423 julieconrad11@yahoo.com Neutral Since the town hall meeting regarding the "town deer" on May
Conrad Eagle 4th, 2023, I have seen less than a handful of deer in all of McCall.
Drive I travel the East and West side of the lake to hike as well as Little
McCall Payette Lake area, Ponderosa Park, Farm to Market, Tamarack,
Idaho Aspen Ridge, Spring Mountain Ranch, Bear Basin, and all of the
83638 27 holes of the McCall golf course. Last week I drove around the
entirety of Payette Lake, the entire perimeter of the McCall Golf
Course, through Ponderosa State Park to the top of Osprey Point
and back, then to Snowdon Wildlife Sanctuary and back, then to
the top of Aspen Ridge in Spring Mountain Ranch and back, all in
one morning. I did not see ONE single deer the entire several
hour drive. I did this same drive a second time also last week and
did not see ONE SINGLE DEER the entire drive. Where did the
"258" deer that the local fish and game "counted" earlier this
year, magically disappear to? My neighbors who are 2nd
homeowners and come from Boise, Eagle, Grangeville and
Nevada have ALL mentioned and remarked at the lack of deer.
Not only the lack thereof, but the zero sightings all throughout
town. Even the Ed Staub delivery guy queried out loud "where
are all the deer"? a couple of months ago while on my street. He
then stated: "I have noticed a significant lack of deer all over
town on my deliveries". For the 13 years I have lived on the
McCall Golf Course full time, there are always deer present. The
same Doe who has given birth to her fawns in the lot next to my
house or on my street every May or June has been missing
entirely, as have her twins from last year. This is a first in 13 years.
In fact I have seen only TWO deer on the McCall course near my
house since the town hall. They are not deer I recognize as the
"golf course deer". The entire nine -hole Birch course was not in
play a couple of months ago due to reconstruction of several
tee -boxes. It was deadly quiet. One would think that the deer
that have always called this area "Home", would still be here,
particularly with no golf traffic. Where did the "258+" deer that
Fish and Game supposedly "counted" *Go* overnight since the
town hall? I am asking the following question on behalf of myself
and multiple concerned residents, citizens and 2nd homeowners:
"Did the City of McCall give the local Fish and a Game or any Fish
and Game, or any entity ANY directive with regards to the town
deer since the town hall, or in the last several months or since the
beginning of the year? Or if not, did the city know about or
"allow" the local Fish and Game, or any Fish and Game, or any
entity to reduce the McCall deer population by any means? To
include: 1)"culling", 2) euthanizing, 3) trap and transport, 4)
hazing, 5) poisoning, 6) sharpshooting, or shooting by gun or
bow and arrow, 7) tranquilizing/darting, 8) sterilizing, 9) or any
other means of reducing the town herd? I've yet to receive a
clear answer after asking the city manager, communications
manager, council and mayor in several emails within the last few
months. We would appreciate a clear and honest answer.
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