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HomeMy Public PortalAbout20180820_PC_MINUTES.pdfPLANNING COMMISSION Demery Bishop Ron Bossick Marianne Bramble Tina Gann Charles Matlock David McNaughton Alan Robertson CITY MANAGER Shawn Gillen COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR George Shaw Planning Commission Meeting MINUTES August 20, 2018 CITY ATTORNEY Edward M. Hughes Chair Bishop called the August 20, 2018 Tybee Island Planning Commission meeting to order. Commissioners present were Charles Matlock, Marianne Bramble, Alan Robertson, Tina Gann and David McNaughton. Vice Chair Bossick was not present. Consideration of Minutes: Chair Bishop asked for consideration of the July 16, 2018 meeting minutes. Charles Matlock stated that there are spelling errors he would like corrected. Alan Robertson made a motion to approve with spelling error changes. Tina Gann seconded. The vote to approve was unanimous. Chair Bishop asked for consideration of the July 26, 2018 meeting minutes. Charles Matlock made a motion to approve. David McNaughton seconded. The vote to approve was unanimous by the members who were present, David McNaughton, Marianne Bramble and Charles Matlock. Disclosures/Recusals: Chair Bishop asked if there were any disclosures or recusals. There were none. Old Business: Chair Bishop asked if there was any old business. Alan Robertson stated he would like to review the progress of the proposed text amendment for the south end overlay. He stated the Planning Commission needs to schedule a workshop with the groups involved and talk through some of the issues. He stated this will be a more productive way of finalizing the text. Alan Robertson made a motion to have the Planning Director schedule a workshop for Planning Commission members and the appropriate parties at the earliest convenience preferably before the September 17th Planning Commission meeting. Charles Matlock seconded. The vote to approve was unanimous. New Business: Zoning Variance: consideration of setback encroachments for new sinsle-family dwelling — 4 Wilson Avenue — 4-0002-03-024 — Herman Lee Allred. George Shaw approached the Planning Commission and stated that items one and two are neighboring empty lots and they are substandard for the zoning district they are in. Both are about 2,500sgft each. Mr. Shaw stated he has no problem with a variance for either one of these lots. Mr. Shaw also stated that Mr. Allred is asking for fifteen feet on the front, two feet on the sides, and five feet on the rear setbacks. He is requesting this for a building plan that he likes. David McNaughton asked if parking would be under the house and if there would be a drainage issue. Mr. Shaw stated that it could if they build up. Currently the City does not have storm drains on Wilson Avenue. The options for someone building a home on these lots are either contain additional storm water on the lot, or get it to the City's system, or marshes. Herman Allred approached the Planning Commission and stated he lives at 220 Williamson Drive, Macon Georgia. He stated that the family voted on a plan that everyone would like that would fit on this small lot. Tina Gann asked if this would be a family house or a short-term rental. Mr. Allred stated that they would like to do both. Tina Gann stated that a short-term rental would affect the neighbors in that area significantly. Thomas Lee approached the Planning Commission and stated he lives at 7 Naylor Avenue. He stated he and his wife purchased their property in 2013 to make it their home. They complied with the existing setbacks that were in place and would like to see his neighbors do the same. He stated the reduction of setbacks on neighboring properties would affect sunlight, breeze, view, privacy, noise, vegetation and the value of the existing homes. Ken Jordan approached the Planning Commission and stated he lives at 11 Naylor Avenue, Tybee Island. He stated his home was built in 2014 and all the existing setbacks were followed. He would like to see the new neighbors do the same. He also stated the drainage does concern him. Debbie Nicklas approached the Planning Commission and stated she and her husband live at 8 Wilson Avenue. She stated when she built her house she was granted a five-foot front setback variance only and she had to build a parallelogram shape home to abide by the other existing setbacks. Sharon Hosti approached the Planning Commission and stated she lives at 3 Wilson Avenue and also owns the lot across from her that she has her carport on. She stated that there are already problems on Wilson Avenue like the narrowness of the road, the trash trucks have difficulty going down it, and there are a lot of people that speed through there. Vacationers would bring too many problems to that area. She also doesn't want a house so close to her carport. David McNaughton asked if the property would meet the greenspace requirements with the variance. Mr. Shaw stated he would have to require the calculation be done from the owner before the permit could be issued. Alan Robertson made a motion to deny. Marianne Bramble seconded. Vote to deny was unanimous. 5-0 Zoning Variance: consideration of setback encroachments for new single-family dwelling — 9 Naylor Avenue — 4-0002-03-012 — Carmela Aliffi & Jane Fishman. Mr. Shaw approached the Planning Commission and stated this property is similar and next to 4 Wilson Avenue. They currently have a granted variance from a year ago. That is a 16 -foot front setback on the Naylor Avenue side, and 6 -foot side setback on the Wilson Avenue side. They are now requesting an 1I - foot setback on Naylor Avenue and a 5 -foot setback on Wilson Avenue. This is a little less than what they were granted a year ago. The reason for the change is to save a tree. Carmela Aliffi, the applicant, and Dan Snyder approached the Planning Commission. Dan Snyder stated his address is Gaston Street Downtown and he is the Architect for the project. Carmella Allifi stated she would like to keep the natural environment that is there now and not cut the tree she had intended to cut last year. Dan Snyder stated he modeled this home to save the tree and to maximize the size of the house in the area that is there. It will also be two stories with the carport under the house. Marianne Bramble asked if this will be a short term rental or full time home. Carmella Allifi stated this will be her home not a short term rental. Ken Jordan approached the Planning Commission and stated he lives at 11 Naylor Avenue and the Wilson Avenue side variance for this property would be close to his home and he has a concern about safety issues with the house being so close to the road. Carmella Aliffi stated she would like to rescind the variance on the Wilson Avenue side to just keep it at 6 -foot and only ask for the variance on the Naylor Avenue side, which will be the 5 -foot variance that makes it an 11 -foot setback. Tina Gann made a motion to approve only the 5 -foot variance that will be the 11 -foot setback on the Naylor Avenue and to keep the existing 6 -foot setback on the Wilson Avenue. David McNaughton seconded. Voting in favor were Tina Gann, Charles Matlock and David McNaughton. Voting against were Alan Robertson and Marianne Bramble. Motion to approve carried, 3-2. Site Plan Approval: Modify site for an office and parking spaces — 3 Old Hwy 80 — 4-0024-02-001— Shannon Hollar (Cruises to Nowhere LLC.) Mr. Shaw approached the Planning Commission and stated this property is owned by Pat Mathews and actually straddles both sides of Highway 80. This proposal will be on the south side of Highway 80. They are proposing a small office trailer and approximately eighty parking spaces for a cruise ship/gambling boat to dock at Mr. Mathew's existing dock. Mr. Shaw stated it is a by right use in this district and there is plenty of space for parking spaces and the building. Mr. Shaw also stated that the property does need to be cleaned up and there does need to be a spot for handicap accessible parking. Tina Gann asked if the parking spaces would be marked. Mr. Shaw stated from what he understands, they do not intend to delineate the spaces, although he thinks they should have some kind of delineation. Chair Bishop stated he fails to see that this is an approved use in the Maritime district. Mr. Shaw stated this is under (L) passenger cruise line. Chair Bishop stated this is not a passenger cruise line by definition legally. Mr. Shaw stated he would interpret this as a passenger cruise line since they do take passengers out and come back. He stated he would also check with the City Attorney to make sure. Chair Bishop also stated the site plan is not complete or has not meet the requirements for site plan approval. He also stated he is concerned about public safety coming in and out of Highway 80, capacity for sewage disposal, fuel storage, the dock area needing repairs and if the marsh buffer is approved by DNR. Mr. Shaw stated that the buffer on the site plan has expired and is going to be re -surveyed. Alan Robertson stated he is concerned with the lack of a complete site plan package. He also stated there is nothing in this site plan that allows him to answer any of the questions that come up around the entire commercial endeavor. Marianne Bramble stated she has some safety issues about the dock and the surrounding area and she thinks the parking should be designated. David McNaughton asked if this site plan were approved what other approvals would the ship be required to have before it could operate. Mr. Shaw stated they would need a Coast Guard inspection for seaworthiness and safety, and a business license. Marianne Bramble asked if there would be restrooms on site. Mr. Shaw stated from what he understands the guests would use the boat restrooms. Anna Butler approached the planning commission and stated she lives at 1212 Fifth Avenue on Tybee Island. She stated she has concerns with the parking area, the amount of passengers that will be aboard the boat, and other businesses in the same area where they are leaving from Highway 80. Karen Gilbert approached the planning commission and stated she lives at 113 Jones Avenue, Tybee Island. She wanted to second the comments Chair Bishop made because they were also her concerns. And she would hope that the Planning Commission would deny the application. Paul Burns approached the Planning Commission and stated he lives at 215 East 45th Street, Savannah, and his business is at 4 Old Hwy 80. He stated he was very concerned with the parking and the amount of cars that already come and go in the area. He has seen tour buses stuck in the middle of the road and he thinks they should have to have a more detailed site plan like he had to do when he opened his business. Greg Fowler approached the Planning Commission and stated he lives at 7B Village Place, Tybee Island. He stated the view coming over Lazaretto Bridge is an eye sore. He also stated that one of his concerns is the bridge being hit, that would shut Tybee Island down coming and going. He stated he is also concerned with the safety issues and they should have to turn in a more complete plan. Fran Galloway approached the Planning Commission and stated she lives at 153 Lewis Avenue. She stated she has the same concerns that have been brought up and hopes the Planning Commission looks at all of the concerns and does not approve this. Pat Mathews who owns the property at 3 Old Hwy 80 and Shannon Hollar who is the applicant and Captain of the Cruise Boat approached the Planning Commission. Mr. Mathews stated he has and will address every concern. He also stated he is planning on having a parking attendant and security on hand during operations of the boat. Shannon Hollar stated every parking spot will also be identified. Pat Mathews stated that DOT spent millions of dollars to build a bridge fender on Lazaretto Creek Bridge to stop anything from damaging the bridge. He also stated the property will be cleaned up, he is working on that now. Lisa Dean approached the Planning Commission and stated she lives at 202 Twelfth Street, Tybee Island. She asked if this Site Plan is approved this evening or at some point in the future, relative to the requirements of the land development code, what would the next steps be, and will there be a plan if this ship was to hit the bridge. Chair Bishop stated that would all be covered under the questions that have been raised tonight that would have to be addressed. David McNaughton made a motion to continue until the site plan contains all the concerns including an up to date DNR line, drainage opinion from the city engineer, restrooms on this site, environmental impact, public safety issues, sewage disposal, and handicap parking. Charles Matlock seconded. Voting in favor were Charles Matlock, David McNaughton, Marianne Bramble and Tina Gann. Voting against was Alan Robertson. Motion to continue carried, 4-1. Standing Agenda Item: Chair Bishop asked if there were any standing agenda items. Commissioner Robertson stated there was none for this meeting. Tina Gann made a motion to Adjourn. David McNaughton seconded. The vote was unanimous. Meeting adjourned 9:30pm. Lisa L. Schaaf