HomeMy Public PortalAboutConsComm Min 2000-11-14Minutes — Orleans Conservation Commission
Town Hall
Work Meeting, Tuesday, November 14, 2000 (Amended)
PRESENT: Adrienne Pfluger, Acting Chairman; George Christie, Arnold Henson,,
Bill Parish and Jim Snedecor, voting Commissioners; and Jenny Wood,
Conservation Administrator.
ABSENT: Steve Paradise, Judy Scanlon, Don Tomlin, Bob Ward and Andree
Yager.
The meeting opened at 8:48 a.m.
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NOTICE OF INTENT (CONTINUATION)
E. S. Goldman, 18-B Pershing Lane -- by East Cape Engineering, Inc. Assessor's
Map 56, Parcel 19. Construction of an addition to the dining area of an existing
single family dwelling within 100' of the top of a coastal bank in accordance with
plans on file. Tim Brady of East Cape Engineering said that he had talked to Mr.
Goldman about the alternatives proposed by the Commission at the October 17th
hearing to see what Mr. Goldman would consider for a possible new design. Tim
Brady had received a memo from Mr. Goldman indicating that he had explored other
options and felt that this proposed addition is what he wants. Tim Brady explained
that he had not changed the site plan and he asked the Commission to consider the
plan as presented. JW pointed out that a top of bank delineation had not been
provided and Tim Brady said he would do this if the Commission approved the
project. Arnold Henson said he was concerned about building a structure in the
ACEC and granting a variance when there were other reasonable alternatives, even if
Mr. Goldman did not like the alternatives.
MOTION: A motion to close the hearing to the taking of testimony was made by
Arnold Henson and seconded by Bill Parish.
VOTE: Unanimous
MOTION: A motion to approve the above project and also to approve the variance
request was made by Arnold Henson and seconded by Bill Parish.
VOTE: 0-4-1 Denied. George Christie recused himself.
INFORMAL REVIEWS
Dan Schraq, 11 Pond Road -- Informal review for house placement on lot. Mr.
Schrag explained that he is in the process of purchasing this 2 -acre lot and talking
to Terry Ryder about the placement of the house. He wanted to talk in general
terms to the Commissioners about his ideas before having an architect design the
house. He is interested in building the house down toward the lake and wondered
if there were any restrictions on work within 50' and 100` of the lake and on view
clearing. The Acting Chairman said that the Commission only approved view
clearing after the house was constructed and occupied. Arnold Henson said the
Commissioners prefer tree limbing rather than tree cutting. JW asked Mr. Schrag if
he was proposing to build the house on the flat upland area and Mr. Schrag said
he would start there and then build down to the lake. JW also said Mr. Schrag
could file an RDA to confirm the wetland delineation since it was hard to answer
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his questions without knowing where the wetland buffer was. The Acting Chairman
asked Mr. Schrag if he had a copy of the Orleans wetlands regulations and he said
that he would get a copy.
Seth Wilkinson, Cape Cod Commission -- Discussion on Namskaket Sea Path.
Seth Wilkinson said that he is the coordinator of the Pathways Project and he
distributed copies of a newly prepared trail guide for the sea path. He explained
that the walking trail runs from Nickerson State Park in Brewster, along the Cape
Cod Bay to Skaket Beach and then connects to the bike trail to loop back to
Nickerson. The trail guide contains a lot of history about the area, the fishing,
railroad and the weirs. George Christie asked Seth Wilkinson if they were working
to connect the walkway into Chatham and Seth Wilkinson said not yet. He did say
that Brewster's pathways committee was looking at crossing their trails over into
the Orleans watershed area. The Commissioners thanked Seth Wilkinson for his
presentation.
Review Paw Wah Point Management Plan
The Commissioners reviewed this draft, which updated the recommendations in
the 1991 management plan prepared for this property.
MOTION: A motion to approve and adopt as submitted the updated open space
management plan for the Paw Wah Point Conservation Area dated November
2000 and to transmit the plan to the Board of Selectmen was made by Bill Parish
and seconded by Jim Snedecor.
VOTE: Unanimous
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW
Peter Saliba, 13 Quinn Road — Request to repair steps on beach stairway. Posts
would not be replaced. Steps are bolted on so that worn steps would be unbolted
and new ones bolted into place. JW distributed digital pictures which had been
provided by this applicant.
MOTION: On a motion by Arnold Henson and seconded by Bill Parish, the
Commission approved the above project.
VOTE: Unanimous
CHAIRMAN'S BUSINESS
Approval of Minutes of November 7, 2000 Hearing
These minutes were not yet available and will be reviewed at the Commission's
meeting on November 21St
OTHER MEMBERS' BUSINESS
Old Tote Road Affordable Housing Project
George Christie distributed a copy of the state's Chapter 40B, Section 21
regulations and read the first part of the section. He said it appeared that the
regulations of local agencies must be taken into account on low or moderate
income housing construction applications. Arnold Henson suggested that JW ask
the Town Counsel for his view on this,
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Piers and Docks Workshop on November 13ti'
Arnold Henson said that he and JW had attended this workshop and the views
presented were very similar to the Town's. He also said that the most interesting
thing he learned was that the use of wolmanized lumber has little long-term
impacts on piers, but that with massive bulkheads longterm impacts are shown as
far away as several meters. JW said that information was presented showing that
all walkways have effects on the wetlands, the effects just differ by degree of
impact.
SITE VISITS
The Commissioners reviewed the site visits for the November 21st filings. David
Lyttle of Ryder & Wilcox will be taking the Commissioners by boat to visit Sipson's
Island on Thursday morning, November 16tH
CHAIRMAN'S BUSINESS - Continued
Sea Call Farm Building Committee Update
The Acting Chairman said that the terms for all the Building Committee members
had expired as of June 30, 2000 so the Board of Selectmen needs to make new
appointments to this Committee. Bob Ward has written to the BOS to discuss the
status of the Committee and the renovation plans.
The meeting adjourned at 9:59 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Penny Noll, Conservation Commission Secretary
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