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HomeMy Public PortalAbout1981_05_13 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF LEESBURG TOWN COUNCIL, MAY 13 , 1981. A regular meeting of the Leesburg Town Council was held in 8 9 the Council Chambers, 10 West Loudoun Street, Leesburg, Virginia on May 13 , 1981 at 7 : 30 p.m. The meeting was called to order by the Mayor, with the invocation given by Mr. Tolbert, and followed with the Salute to the Flag led by Mrs. Hill. Present were: Mayor Kenneth B. Rollins, Councilmembers Charles A. Bos, Stanley D. Her- rell, Jr. , G. Dewey Hill , Jr. , Marylou Hill , John W. Tolbert, Jr. and Howard M. Willis, Jr. ; also Town Manager John Niccolls, Assist- ant Manager Jeffrey H. Minor, Chief of Police James M. Kidwell and Town Attorney George M. Martin. The minutes of the regular meetings of April 8 and April 22 and a special meeting of April 14 , 1981 were approved as written. Mr. Hill called attention to draft minutes of a special meeting. on May _5, 1981 and requested that they be corrected to show that Mr. Herrell ) seconded the motion to increase water and sewer rates by .ten percent effective July 1 , 1981 . The vote on that motion was 5 to 2 . Mayor; Rollins felt that this was not a special meeting of the Council but a budget workshop meeting. These minutes will , therefore, be filed as such, along with committee minutes. MANAGER' S REPORT: (1) Mr. Niccolls reported that, with regard to Item 2 on the 0 Activity Report concerning Street Resurfacing bids, the staff will request prices per ton for the work to be done after Council has 7 an opportunity, at next week ' s committee meetings , to review the pro- a posed street resurfacing program. The actual list to go out on Fri- day will include a list of first, second and third priority streets, as well as some information about Sycolin Road. The Director of En- gineering has been asked to proceed to prepare bid documents . We particularly need bids for the work on Loudoun Street between King and Church Streets and on Market Street between Church and Wirt Streets. (2) A single bid was received Monday from Grayson ' s Refuse Service for refuse collection service for the three-year contract up for bids. The price quoted was almost exactly 12 percent higher than the rates we are paying today. There will be a complete re- port on that going out to the committees on Friday. This bid also included price for container service and other features. Bid docu- ments were sent to at least a dozen firms advertised in the yellow pages in Loudoun County and it was advertised in the local paper. MAYOR' S REPORT: Mayor Rollins said the cable telvision ordinance establishes a Cable Television Advisory Commission of five people - three to be appointed by the Mayor and two by the franchisee - all five of which are to be confirmed by the Council . A letter from Mr. Ottinger, on behalf of Catoctin Cable Communications, submits the names of Mary Lou Seekford and Richard Herndon. Mayor Rollins has appointed the following : Ed Coffey, John Pumphrey, III and Alvin Dodson. He asked Mr. Niccolls to contact these five persons and ask them to be present for the next Council meeting. Their confirmation of appoint- ment will be at the next Council session, to be effective July 1, 1981 . These are three-year appointments and the salary is $600 per year. He asked that Mr. Niccolls make copies of that ordinance to hand out at the next session. Mayor Rollins read a letter from Judge Carlton Penn and Lucas Phillips concerning runoff of storm water from Crestwood Subdivision which ultimately discharges on property owned by them on the other side of Route 15. The recent Waverly Heights storm drainage project has improved the properties of those living in that area, but has caused more drainage onto their property. They asked that the town complete this project to take this water to the creek or onto Route 621 . He asked Mr. Niccolls to respond to this letter and advise them that this matter will be considered by the Public Works Com- mittee next week. MINUTES OF MAY 13, 1981 MEETING. 90 COUNCILMEMBER INQUIRIES AND COMMENTS : Mr. Bos said he has been getting remarks about how nice the new brick sidewalks look and they are looking forward to their comple- tion. He had also made copies for everyone of a series in the Washing- ton Post concerning EPA and the Clean Water Act and sewage treatment plant funding. Mr. Hill said he is excited about the new sidewalks too, however, he had quite a confrontation with Mr. Jim Tyler, one of the property owners, . who wanted the old bricks (some of them probably 100 years - old) moved and stacked on the back of his property. Mr. Hill informed him that he would benefit from these improvements, but Mr. Tyler was still angry about the bricks. Mr: Hill told him he was the only one griping about this project. He suggested that he appear before Coun- cil if he felt so strongly about this, but he said he had other things to do and the bureaucracy would take over anyway. Mr. Hill requested that, in the future, if we have any person against a project, we not undertake the project and let everyone else involved know who the per- son is that is holding it up. This money could be diverted to some other project. He said Mr. Tyler is not a resident of Leesburg and he has no sympathy for him. He asked Mr. Niccolls what kind of rap- port he had with Mr. Tyler. Mr. Niccolls said he talked with him yes- terday and they reached agreement on all of the points involved and moved some of the bricks to the back of his property. There was al- so the fact that a part of the oldLsidewalk was about a foot on his property, so there was a question as to where the new sidewalk was to be constructed but they reached an agreement on this. Electric service was disrupted to his premises when we ripped up a service drop from a power pole at the southwest corner of Church and East Market Streets . VEPCO, who was asked to locate underground utili- ties for this project for the town, did not know that service was there. The Underground Utility Protection Act, passed by the Gene- ral Assembly a few years ago, requires us to give 24 hours ' notice to other utilities when we are going to excavate (unless it is an emergency) where there might be other utilities - we do this rou- tinely. This dropped service to his building for several hours and he was understandably upset about this. Mr. Hill said Mr. Tyler mentioned that he knew that was there, but that he would not tell the town about it. Mayor Rollins asked if this is where Mr. Tyler re- quested the brick and was denied it? Mr. Hill said he indicated he had called the town and was more or less told that it was easier for the town to dig these up with the backhoe and move them out. He has delayed the project two days. They, therefore, bypassed his property and dug up just enough to get started on curb and gutter . We are now in there excavating the rest of .the sidewalk. He felt the town would have told him he could have the bricks if he would take them up. In- stead he waited until we were in front of his property. Mayor Rollins asked if we denied him the brick? Mr. Niccolls said he discussed the brick work with him on April 28 (we were still working on the other side of the street) . He asked if we could lay them in the herringbone pattern instead of the running bond pattern we use. He told him he didn 't think so. He said he was also concerned about some other things and he (Mr. Niccolls) suggested they talk about it when they got over there. This was the last conversation he had with him about it until today. In the meantime he did talk with some of our field people, but they are not authorized to give away materials without authority. We did, as far as he knows, get him some brick today. Mayor Rollins said we have dealt with Mr. Hill ' s philosophy many times before, but he disagrees with this . He did not see why we should stop progress for just one person when it will benefit others. You always have one person that doesn ' t want anything changed. It is not right to let everybody else suffer for one per- son. Mr. Hill felt the "loner" should get some publicity. Mrs. Hill said Mr . James Fawcett, a member of the Board of Heri- tage Square Citizens Association, asked Mr. Smith of VEPCO to inven- tory the lights in this subdivision. There are 38 lights, five of which are on Heritage Way. The Citizens Association has been paying for these - a total of $1, 200 as of March - an average of $10. 00 per light per month. They want to know why the town has not taken them in. Mr. Niccolls said we didn ' t order the lights in - they were MINUTES OF MAY 13, 1981 MEETING. 91 probably ordered in by the developer along with all the other light- ing on the site by VEPCO. We would, in the normal course of events in a subdivision, have a lighting plan prepared and approved and then order in lighting one at a time. The procedure is to pay for the installation and then pick up the power bill when it goes on. It would be the responsibility of the town to pay for the lighting after the street is dedicated and accepted. He will look into this. He felt there will be no problem in picking up the billings for next year. If the association wants to make a claim for this, they should file a written claim and we will run it through the committees. Mrs. Hill said he did not know when the street was accepted - the $1, 200 might have been before that time. Mrs. Hill said the Planning Commission has a request from Mr. Brownell on Edwards Ferry Mews. There has been quite a bit of citi- zen opposition to this proposed development. The Commission deferred a vote on it until the June meeting. The citizens feel this develop- ment is not in the best interest of their neighborhood. This is a proposed pipe stem lot off of Edwards Ferry Road and he proposes five houses with a 20-foot private street. The citizens object to a good many things and, if they are not satisfied with the Commission' e de- cision, they may. appeal to the Council . Mayor Rollins was opposed N to what he is doing and thinks the Commission needs to take a closer Q look at these pipe stem accessways - perhaps initiate some change in the ordinance to outlaw them or allow only a certain number of build- ings. He felt this is a disaster as proposed. Mrs. Hill said the new Q ordinance will spell out what can be done on such lots. Q Mr. Willis reported that the wind has apparently turned one of the traffic signals at Route 7 and Plaza Street. He felt that David Frye and his men are doing an excellent job on the sidewalks. He was there when they were repairing the electric service and someone told him there is a "cavern" of some sort under the street there. He had never heard about this. Mr. Niccolls said this is a .fire protection system and we have already taken care of this. It is an interesting historic amenity though - in days past they had cisterns that filled up with runoff or water from the system itself and the firefighters would draft water from those in the event of a fire. There is one of them along the court house fence about 150 feet from the corner with a metal lid on it. -Nearby is a water valve box marked "W" - nobody had looked in it for years and years so it was a surprise to all of us . When they were excavating they ran into this cistern. It is well preserved and watertight. . David ' s men poured a new cap around it so that a new ring could be set at grade - we left the old valve in it though it is not connected to the water. Perhaps a small sign could be made for this - not too many people know how they fought fires in those days. There is another one on North Wirt Street that we found when we built the new sidewalk there. Mr. Willis did not feel this is what they were talking about - there is apparently a large cavern in the middle of the intersection there where the blinker light is that they had to build quite an elaborate archway over in order to pave the street. He felt someone should be aware of it so that a contractor does not come in and dig too deep and cause an accident. Mr. Hill said the manhole there is about 20 feet and a man was killed there. He didn ' t think we would have to worry about it unless it sud- denly dropped in. Mr. Tolbert said there is apparently a spring on Church Street. Mr. Willis also felt we should have some DETOUR signs so that people traveling through town can get through a little better while this work is being done on Market Street. There is also a street light out in front of 208 Ayrlee Avenue - the residents have called VEPCO repeatedly but have received no action on this . Mr. Tolbert reported a different comment on the sidewalk today - a lady asked how long this "mess" was going to last. He asked her if she lived here and, when she said she didn' t, he told her to"for- get it about it. " Mayor Rollins commented on the grade of the sidewalk in front of the upper gate into the Clerk ' s Office - he felt this will be danger- ous when it is icy. Mr. Niccolls said if it is dangerous, we might have to lower it. n 2 MINUTES OF MAY 13 , 1981 MEETING. 7 Mayor Rollins asked why the "Handicapped" ramp was put near Church Street - does the law require it? Mr. Niccolls said the law requires it at intersections. The Highway Department has their way of doing it, but we have to fit them in where they will work on some of the narrower streets. There will be one almost directly opposite the Valley Bank building as well as in,front of the title insurance building. 81-59 - RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT, APPROVING A PERFORMANCE GUARANTEE FOR INSTALLATION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FARM CREDIT SERVICE. On motion of Mrs . Hill, seconded by Mr. Herrell, and there be- ing no objection to consideration tonight, the following resolution was proposed: RESOLVED by the Council of the Town of Leesburg in Virginia as follows : SECTION I . The manager is authorized and directed to execute the standard agreement for public improvements for the Farm Credit Service on Ft. Evans Road; SECTION II . A cash performance guarantee in the amount of $6 , 688 . 00 guaranteeing installation of public improvements at the Farm Credit Service on Ft. Evans Road, in accordance with plans approved by the Director of Engineering, is ap- proved. Mr. Herrell asked where this is located? Mr. Ottinger, representing the applicant, said it is across the corner from S & R Chevrolet and indicated it on a map. Farm Credit Service is a Federal Land Bank, primarily set up for rural lending for agriculture and rural housing. This is immediately past the Sizzlin ' Steak House and is contiguous to the Paul Bradshaw buildings. Mr. Hill asked if this is privately owned? Mr. Ottinger said it is not - Federal Land Bank and Production Credit Association are owned by the members. If you get a loan through them, five percent of it goes for stock and 95 percent as the proceeds - they are self-supporting. They are not funded by any government - they are taxpayers. Mr. Niccolls asked how many em- ployees they have? Mr. Ottinger introduced Mr. Carroll Laycock, who is manager of the local Farm Credit Service - he is a native of Hamilton and a member of the Hamilton Town Council. Mr. Laycock said they currently have five employees and are planning on six. They are currently renting from- Mr. Ours and have been in Leesburg for years. Mayor Rollins asked if they will occupy the whole build- ing? Mr. Laycock said they will - it is intended that this will be a two-story building with a basement. They will not need the up- stairs at this time but do foresee making additional offices in the future. They will occupy the first floor now and use the basement for storage. It will be used for their purposes only. Mr. Hill said they provide a good service - it is also for individuals. Mr. Ottinger explained that one of their programs is rural housing - if you live in a town of 2500 or less, you can also qualify for a home loan. Hamilton and Purcellville qualify. This will be a nice brick structure and the plans have already been filed. Mr. Niccolls said this is a straight forward street widening extension, with sidewalk, curb and gutter. The resolution was unanimously adopted: Aye: Councilmembers Bos, Herrell , D. Hill, M. Hill , Tolbert, Willis and Mayor Rollins. Nay: None. 81-0-11 - ORDINANCE — ADDING A NEW ARTICLE TO CHAPTER 11 OF THE TOWN CODE CONCERNING PUBLIC PARKS . On motion of Mr. Tolbert, seconded by Mr. Willis, the following ordinance was proposed : ORDAINED by the Council of the Town of Leesburg in Virginia as follows : MINUTES OF MAY 13 , 1981 MEETING. 93 SECTION I. A new article is added to Chapter 11 of the Town Code to be known as Article IV, Public Parks, to read as follows : ARTICLE IV. PUBLIC PARKS Sec . 11-71 . Regulations for use of parks . (a) The manager may make and enforce reasonable regulations for the use of town parks after notice to the Council . (b) When any regulation is established pursuant to this sec- tion, the manager shall erect appropriate signs or markers so . that an ordinarily observant person affected by the regulation will be aware of the regulations. (c) When any regulation is made and signs or markers erected pursuant to this section, it shall be unlawful for any person to violate any such regulations. Sec . 11-72 . Hours parks closed. (a) No person shall go upon, use, occupy or remain in any O town park during the hours set out below: Town Park Hours Closed Q Rotary Park 11 : 00 P.M. to 6 : 00 A.M. Q Harrison Street Baseball Field 10 : 00 P .M. to 6 : 00 A.M. Plaza Street Neighborhood Park 12 : 00 P.M. to 6 : 00 A.M. Catoctin Circle Tennis Courts 12 : 00 P.M. to 6 : 00 A.M. (b) The manager shall erect appropriate signs so that an ordinarily observant person affected by this section will be aware of this section. SECTION II . This ordinance shall be in effect upon its passage. Mrs. Hill said this partly came about because the Police Department felt there should be some regulations for the closing of the parks. Mr. Herrell asked why the Plaza Street Park is open until 12 : 00 P .M. when the other two are 10 : 00 and 11 : 00? Mrs. Hill said it was felt that the children in the Plaza Street Park area might want to play ball late at night. It was felt this was a healthy thing to do. If this appears to be too late, we may have to take another look at it. Mr. Hill asked what the penalty is for violators? Mr. Nic- colls said it is a misdemeanor offense and would be imposed by the general penalty found elsewhere in the Code of up to $1, 000. This general penalty clause is written so that it is not necessary to put the penalty in each ordinance unless you want it to be less than that. Chief Kidwell said there will be a sign erected saying "No Trespassing after Closing Hours" , so it would come under the Trespassing penalty. The ordinance was unanimously adopted : Aye: Councilmembers Bos, Herrell, D. Hill, M. Hill , Tolbert, Willis and Mayor Rollins. Nay: None. 81-60 - RESOLUTION - APPROVING A TENTATIVE BUDGET AND TAX RATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 1981 AND SET- TING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET. On motion of Mr. Tolbert, seconded by Mrs . Hill , the following resolution was proposed and unanimously adopted: WHEREAS, the manager on March 31, 1981 submitted a proposed budget for the Town of Leesburg for the fiscal year ending June 30 , 1982; and WHEREAS , the Council has reviewed the proposed budget and made certain revisions; and 4 MINUTES OF MAY 13 , 1981 MEETING. J WHEREAS, Sections 15. 1-162 and 58-785. 1 of the Code of Virginia and federal regulations require a hearing on the - proposed budget and tax rate following public notice: THEREFORE, RESOLVED by the Council of the Town of Leesburg in Virginia as follows : SECTION I . A tentative budget and tax rate for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1981 , as set out in the draft "Public Notice and Summary of the Proposed 1982 Budget" dated May 8 , 1981 and filed with the Clerk of Council is approved. SECTION II. A public hearing on the proposed budget and • tax rate for the fiscal year ending June 30 , 1982 shall be held on June 10 , 1981 at 7 : 30 P .M. in the Council Chambers. SECTION III . The notice of public hearing and summary of the proposed 1982 budget shall be published in the Loudoun Times- Mirror on May 28 , 1981 . Aye : Councilmembers Bos, Herrell, D. Hill, M. Hill , Tolbert, Willis and Tolbert. Nay: None. - Mayor Rollins made it clear to the press that this is the Council ' s budget - not the Town Manager ' s budget. 81-61 - RESOLUTION - MAKING APPOINTMENTS TO THE CITIZEN LIAISON . COMMITTEE FOR THE SOUTH HARRISON STREET RE- DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION PROJECT. On motion of Mr. Bos, seconded by Mr. Herrell , the following resolution was proposed : RESOLVED by the Council of the Town of Leesburg in Virginia as follows : SECTION I . The following are appointed to the Citizen Liai- son Committee for the South Harrison Street Redevelopment and Revitalization Project : Mr . Robert Cullen Mrs. Ruth Bishop Mrs. Robbie Taylor Mrs. Melvie Savopoulos Mr. Eugene Barber Mr. Jason Cohen Mrs. Laura Powell Mr. Max Mellott Mr. Thomas Blankenship SECTION II . The term for these appointments shall expire upon the completion of the project. Mr. Bos asked if all of these people were present at the last meet- ing? Mr. Niccolls said all were present but Mr. Blankenship. - he talked to him in person and hesaid he would like to serve. Mayor Rollins welcomed Mr. Cullen to the meeting. The resolution was unanimously adopted: Aye: Councilmembers Bos, Herrell , D. Hill, M. Hill, Tolbert, Willis and Mayor Rollins . Nay: None. Mr. Niccolls said these people will be provided a summary of the project. 81-62 - RESOLUTION - MAKING AN APPROPRIATION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30 , 1981. On motion of Mrs. Hill , seconded by Mr. Tolbert, the following reso- lution was proposed and unanimously adopted: RESOLVED by the Council of the Town of Leesburg in Virginia as follows : MINUTES OF MAY 13 , 1981 MEETING . An appropriation is made from the Airport Fund to Account 7 No. 30000. 211 for electricity in the amount of $1 , 500 . 00 for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1981 . Aye: Councilmembers Bos, Herrell , D. Hill, M. Hill, Tolbert, Willis and Mayor Rollins. Nay: None. Mr. Niccolls called attention to the Debt Service Schedule in the packet. Mr. Tom Nalls, attorney, introduced Mr. John Wallace and Mr. IlL Aaron Paulson, owners of Leesburg Plaza Shopping Center. He said they are now making plans for the next phase of the shopping center, which will be to the west and slightly behind the K-Mart building. They are aware of the fact that the town has long been interested in anextension of Catoctin Circle. between. Market Street and Ed- wards Ferry Road. He has corresponded with Mr. Niccolls and talked with him as well . They want to present their site plan with the po- tential of making that connection some day, but they don ' t know exactly when this will happen. It would be safe to say it will be a substantial period of time beforethiE does happen, but they don ' t want to site their buildinghatjwould mess up the configura- O tion of what they think will be the appropriate alignment at this time. This road will be a significant addition to the town ' s street 7 system - much more to the town than to this development. They have not planned for any access onto that street even if it should be Q built six months from now. He asked for discussion on this project Q so that they might have their engineers work on the actual site plan. They could make sure that this land stays open for a reasonable period of time, but they don ' t want to dedicate it right now - if that street is never built, this strip of land could be landlocked and could put them at a disadvantage. Mr. Wallace said there is no way they could charge the tenants for this street - in fact, they don ' t even know that it is proposed. One of the new businesses would be a department store and they would enter the same way as K-Mart. They do not know how soon they will build this section - they will have to wait until interest rates come down. Mr. Bos asked if KDA is taking this type of thing into account in updating the Compre- hensive Plan? Mr. Niccolls said they will review the existing Thoro- fare Plan and re-evaluate whether or not such a road has a place in our master traffic plan - he felt sure they would make a recom- mendation on this. Mr. Nalls was not sure whether access on this road would be allowed by the Subdivision Ordinance, but this connection will be of some significance in the future. There is a house on Edwards Ferry Road that belongs to Mr. Wallace and Mr. Paulson - they bought this property specifically thinking that this is where Catoctin. Circle would go some day. There is also a section of road (1400 to 1500 feet) that runs to the north side of Jewell ' s lot. Mr. Hill said there has been some discussion as to whether a 70-foot right- of-way is needed for this street north of Edwards Ferry Road - he felt they would have to bring this down to more realistic terms. Mr. Niccolls said Council adopted a resolution last year to relo- cate this road through the property so that it would work better with Mr. Wallace ' s development plans. At that time Council indi- cated that it be on a 70-foot right-of-way with a two-lane road at least 30 feet wide. He felt such a road could serve a useful purpose in the future north of Edwards Ferry Road, but 30 feet would be all that would be needed for many years . Mr. Wallace indi- cated on a plat just how the concept of this road was changed last year. He said they have no objection to dedicating the road when it is built - it is automatically reserved because it is on the Mas- ter Plan. It is not a road for them to use, but would be for the residents of the town, particularly those who live on Edwards Ferry Road and above. Mayor Rollins asked what is being planned from the end of North Catoctin Circle to Route 15? Mr. Niccolls said the Master Plan document merely extends a dark black line north and then trails off into nothing - that area was outside the cor- porate limits at that time. Now it is within the corporate limits. Phillips will be required to provide some kind of thorofare through his subdivision in a northerly-southerly direction. He pointed out that this road does not function as a true circle -. it serves as a connector between quadrants of the town and, from these quadrants, it can function with varying widths and varying traffic capacities - n[+ MINUTES OF MAY 13 , 1981 MEETING. J V it should be thought of as an inner loop, but not in the sense of a beltway. Council has been presented with a problem that has no obvious procedural remedy. Mr. Wallace has no application nor a site plan before the townat this moment. When he talked with with him last week, he concurred that Council should be advised of the problem, but they needed some procedural vehicle to move the request through channels. The Planning Commission could get a site plan that showed no road construction, so they would have a dilemma. Could they approve the two additional buildings without Mr. Wallace making some commitments toward the road construction, or must they hold him to that and then deny his application? The Subdivision Ordinance has a variance procedure, which is usually used for rela- tively minor problems - he does not know whether this is a good case for a variance. The Planning Commission might wish some di- rection from the Council as to how to handle a proposed site plan that does not call for exactly what the subdivision regulations specify. So you have a problem without an apparent remedy - it might be a good idea to refer it and see if they can work out some procedural remedy. Mr. Walls said they are talking about a view toward-the overall ultimate -answer and, in the short term, the next development phase of the shopping center, which is an additional building on the same piece of ground . They are looking at this from two standpoints : (1) an isolated site plan for another building and (2) the six, eight to ten year solution as to the connector street. Mr. Wallace said this was no problem at all a short time ago and they could have gone ahead and built ttese buildings right beside the area reserved for the road. The difference is that, under the new sub- division regulations, Mr. Niccolls felt they could be forced to build the road. Before they make a site plan, they have to make a lease - it states what the lessee will pay and that is deter- mined by the costs. They can estimate their costs but, as of now, they can ' t work the cost of this road into the lease. Mr. Hill said, looking five to ten years down the road when this road is built, these buildings will benefit from it. Mr . Wallace said almost every. business in town is on a street they didn ' t pay for. What they need is some expression that will let them go ahead with this project and not have to comply with the terms of the letter written to them last March a year ago. Mayor Rollins asked if the location for this road has been defined? .Mr. Niccolls said it has and Council approved the realignment. The boundaries are not by survey - they are more or less by description - it is shown on a map, with radius of curve, etc. so that a surveyor could take this information and put it on the ground. Mayor Rollins said, according to this plat, the road is certainly coming into Edwards Ferry Road at a terrible angle - he did not feel they would ever get this by the Highway Department. Mayor Rollins said the issue is what, if anything, will be re- quired of them when they submit the site plan. He asked the Public Works Department to consider this and establish a policy. He asked Mr. Wallace if they plan to tear down the house on Edwards Ferry Road any time soon? Mr. Wallace said this will have to be handled the same as any other piece of property ,- they have a mortgage on the house. It is actually in better shape than it has been for years. It has been assessed at $50 , 000 , leaving about $30, 000 in the lot. He felt this road would be 90 percent public and 10 per- cent private. Mr. Tolbert suggested that perhaps the Council might like to consider a resolution of respect for Mr . Terry Hirst. Council was in agreement witt this and a resolution will be prepared for the next meeting. On motion of Mr. Tolbert, seconded by Mr. Bos, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 9 : 15 p.m. Mayor C erk of e Council