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Alcohol Ordinance Workgroup
Minutes
Committee Meeting
Missing Kathryn Williamsall will be set up with city emails
SG went over myriad rules helps with open records related to the committee –
Defining the problem – stay focused
Data on calls for service passed out by Wally and Major Fobes
2017 to 2020
Calls for service – went over –
Use of force data 2017 – 2019 ?
2017
JF
7 use of force 2017 all involve alcohol
2018 use of force 24/50 Alcohol involved
2019 use of force data 21/30
2020 – so far 15 alcohol involved – March thru August very little interaction because of COVID
SG how do we address this – group can decide if there is a problem
Jenny – visitor numbers - asked Fobes to clarify -
Woman on end white mask dark hair – how did these come to be?
Demry – 2020 –
JF almost everybody involved in use of force are felony arrests
Open container is off the table –
Our goal is to come up with alternative ideas
Someone asked – hwo do we know if these are guests or residents
SG it’s usually a visitor
JF will provide guests vs locals data
Kathryn arrived late
GA state patrol or chatham county included?
JF if it goes through our court it is listed
Dylan - alcohol being involved is not necesarilly open – container –
SG we don’t keep that specific data
Table guy blue mask white tshirt How many people work on a Sat?
JF three officers on a shift generally may be on a holiday weekend
Brain storm – ideas – then distill the ideas down to a feasible list
May add some later
KW – concern about punishing the masses for the bad behavior of the few
Enforce ordinances that are already in place - do we need more officers – would like to explore that
Alcohol tax could be used - could we pull in Chatham county to support us
Litter – how can businesses help
Dylan – passed
Todd – numbers of arrests – five or six months - need more police
Guy next to Todd – small number of officers
Jenny Orr – tax on alcohol – should go towards enforcement – need more officers also have a satellite station
Demry asked JF what is the overall police perspective – during the peak of the season – answer calls as they come to us – sometimes we have to prioritize – part time people from other
agencies have no skin in the game – law suts have been connected with part timeers from other places – adding officers means more arrests – those are time consuming - JF – we would
rather eliminate the issue proactively – more wholesome family destination could attract fewer big drinker
DB – how many injuries happen during these interactions ? JF probably 10 or less
More officers could help (woman sitting next to SG blue mask)
Black mask – how do we get more officers during tourist season? Chatham County - why hire more pd for a few months – hwo would that be paid for – likes the substation – asked when
that will open up –
SG – hopefully marine sci center vacant before next season
JF – they must be certified officers (no jailers) not a large pool of officers to draw from – all departments are low
SG – increase salary would help but pool is getting smaller
Red haired lady white mask – more officers good – likes KW idea regarding litter – hearing JF she is open-minded- maybe we need to encourage less consumption
How does the PD run shifts –
Three per shifts
12 hour shifts
Work seven off seven in a two week period
Sifts are for 30 days then they switch
One supervisor and two lower ranking people
Once we get fully staffed we hope for four
Three detectives work m-f explained how it works see tape all of these people have the ability to arrest people
KW use of security guards should also be taken into consedration -
SG Sat in June - security group would not have the powers of arrest – local officers end up handling the cases – but they are a presence for tha t (chatham county too)
SG – more police visibility issue - difference between adding more officers and using what we have differently
Check tape on hiring – SG and JF –
Dark hair – white mask – went over the size of the force and how it relates to budget timing
Blaonde on end blue mask – previsously we only hired trained people – now we can send people to the academy
How many times per year does the academy run –
WH – Garden City
Savannah tech
We prefer the state academy it’s far less money check tape – Chatham County wouldn’t let us use their training
Preservice – person payes themselves – if agencty pays for training they have to pay it back
Intox 9000 – DUI detection, field sobriety , check tape
Mary what is pd turnover?
JF – in a year – four to five officers per year for myriad reasons explained – takes strong officers to wrk here – Tybee rides two to three times the number of calls than chatham county
(?) or Savannah?
Detective help chec tape
KW – drunk tanks – would the substation help? Can holding people until they are sober ?
JF we can only hold for a certain period of time check tape Due to COVID – unless it’s a felony or felony warrant that Chatham County handles they won’t pick them up (check tape)
It take about an hour to do paper work once dropped off – check tape
Chatham takes a lot longer – takes two – three hours
Presence of jailer makes a big difference in time savings – one fulltime person being is hopefully allieviating the issues.
A jailer who is certified could check tape
Next steps – plan out a schedule of meetings
Walking through each one at next meeting will happen SG
24rd Tuesday – time – 10:00 – Jenny can’t meet 22ndrthru 30th
Dec the 1st meeting – 10:00 – Tuesday
Dec 8th 10 am
Dec 15th – 10 am
Dec 29th? 10 am – on that day we will decide when last meeting will be
January 5th – no go election day
KW – it will be hard to get everyone here every time
Mid next week – Zoom meeting for the public -
Have another Zoom meeting at the end of the process
Anything else \
Demry moved seconded by mary adjourned at 2:12