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HomeMy Public PortalAbout2009_tcwsmin1109Council Work Session November 09, 2009 Council Chambers, 25 West Market Street, 7:30 p.m. Mayor Umstattd presiding. Council Members Present: David S. Butler, Thomas Dunn, II, Katie Sheldon Hammler, Marty Martinez, Kenneth "Ken" Reid, Kevin Wright and Mayor Kristen Umstattd Council Members Absent: Council Member Wright arrived at 7:50 p.m. Staff Present: Town Manager John Wells, Town Attorney Jeanette Irby, Deputy Town Manager Kaj Dentler, Director of Planning and Zoning Susan Berry-Hill, Director of Public Works Tom Mason, Director of Plan Review Bili Ackman, Economic Development Manager Marantha Edwards, Deputy Director of Planning and Zoning Brian Boucher, Zoning Administrator Chris Murphy, Deputy Zoning Administrator Wade Burkholder, Assistant to the Town Manager Scott Parker, Transportation Engineer Calvin Grow and Management Specialist Debi Parry AGENDA ITEMS 1. Work Session Items for Discussion: a. Land Development process Follow-up/EDC Presentation Vice Mayor Hammler congratulated Ara Bagdasarian, Economic Development Commission (EDC)Chairman, on winning the Loudoun County Chamber of Commerce Technology Business of the Year Award for his business, Omnilert. Mr. Bagdasarian stated two years ago the Town began reviewing its land development review processes. He stated in January 2008 the EDC presented recommendations for improving the process to Council and in November 2008 Council approved Mr. Wells' recommended changes. He stated in March 2009 the EDC reconvened the Land Development Process Improvement Task Force to evaluate progress and outcomes while staff conducted internal/external surveys to also evaluate progress and outcomes. He stated the task force conducted anonymous interviews with applicants who are currently in the land development process and have had experience with the previous process before changes were implemented. He stated those interviewed noted a significant Ievei of improvement and a marked change from negative to positive overall experience; however, there were some areas identified that still need improvement. He stated the task force recommends that the Town (1) strengthen the project managers role within the process, (2) created a shared vision/mission between staff, boards and commissions and the overall community, (3) establish specific time deadlines for process steps, (4) establish objective-based criteria over subjective-based decisions, and (5) strive to bring Leesburg in-line with "best-practices" of other state jurisdictions including options for expedited plan review, and minimization of re-submittals of complete plans. Further, he provided interviewee comments stating he was surprised with the Ievei of satisfaction expressed by the individuals interviewed. Council Member Dunn stated if we can have the attitude of customer service throughout and if everybody tries to "out-best" each other in the process then we can only succeed. Further, he thanked Mr. Bagdasarian and Mr. Wells for their efforts. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Paae 2 Council Member Reid asked if the survey conducted by the EDC is separate from the survey received from staff. Mr. Bagdasarian stated it was a separate effort. He stated the EDC conducted personal interviews rather than a survey. Council Member Reid asked how the interviewees were chosen. Mr. Bagdasarian stated the task force reviewed the applicants in the land development pipeline that began prior to the process changes and are still in the process. Council Member Reid verified three developers were interviewed. He stated the staff sent out 80 surveys and received 26 responses, He stated the EDC recommendations are pretty good including the time recommendations. He stated one item of concern to him is the State Law indicating that the Planning Commission has only six months to act on a submitted site plan, yet our site plans do not go to the Planning Commission. He asked if the Town should have the Planning Commission review the site plans or institute a bifurcated process as there are still a number of projects going through numerous submissions according to the recent Development Activity Report; however, some of the delay could be the applicant, He asked if Mr. Bagdasarian and the EDC would look at the possibility of creating time deadlines for staff and applicants on these projects. Mr. Bagdasarian stated that is one of the recommendations provided in the report. Council Member Reid stated it would be good if Council would have the Planning Commission review the site plans to set a timeline as he is concerned that there are still a lot of burdensome regulations for applicants, especially in the commercial area. He stated in staff's report there were comments that "The DCSM should be done by code" and asked if staff has any response. Mr. Wells stated he believes that comment is referring to staff efforts to get the DCSM up to date to match the Town Code. He stated there have been process changes and policy changes that tie into what our codes say. Council Member Reid further discussed his concern with the length of time needed for the site plan process for commercial buildings with no neighboring residential use. He stated he supports stringent flood prevention requirements if a site abuts residential. Council Member Butler thanked Mr. Bagdasarian and the EDC for their efforts. He stated we are headed in the right direction. Council Member Wright thanked Mr. Bagdasarian for his report. He stated this report identifies our strengths and weaknesses. He stated the delay in the process for VDOT 527 review needs to be resolved either internally by continuing to meet our deadlines regardless of whether the VDOT response is received or by requesting assistance from the General Assembly, He stated in his one-on-one meetings with developers he has heard that the culture and attitude of staff is changing and everyone is working together. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Page 3 Vice Mayor Hammier congratulated everyone involved in the development process improvements. She thanked Mr. Bagdasarian for mentioning in his acceptance speech the need for small businesses to take their entrepreneurial skills and contribute them to the non-profit organizations. She commented on how much the Town has benefited from the time Mr. Bagdasarian has invested as Chairman of the EDC and for conducting this survey on the Town's behalf. She commented on the timeliness of these process changes considering the current economic downturn. Further, she stated we need to be concerned with other sources of false information that may have a negative impact on attracting businesses such as a recent article on Bob McDonnell in the Washington Post that mentioned Leesburg having a gang problem similar to Manassas. Council Member Martinez commented on the length of the development process when he was first elected to Council in 2002 and how at that time he commented on the need for the process to be more solution oriented. He stated he is very excited by how far we have come; however, this will always be a work in progress as technology will continue to present better ways to conduct business. Further, he asked that an EDC team be established to work with local businesses, Council and staff to Zook at what we need to do with key redevelopment properties such as Barber and Ross. Mr. Bagdasarian stated over the next several months the EDC will have a number of task force reports on the second phase of the EDC map are wrapping up as the incubator and the downtown management organization so that next year the EDC can focus on the next phase to move forward customer service, destination, arts and entertainment and emerging growth opportunities. Mayor Umstattd thanked Mr. Bagdasarian for his report. She stated we want to be sure that we protect residential communities from flooding and other issues; however, where we can, we should be sure that we get businesses open as quickly as possible. She stated she has heard from three applicants in the last 18 months that they feel Leesburg is easier to do businesses with than two neighboring counties to the east. Further, she congratulated Mr. Bagdasarian on his award. b. Overcrowding Discussion Wade Burkholder provided an update on overcrowding issues in order to further improve the residential overcrowding enforcement program in Leesburg. He outlined concerns associated with overcrowding and the community's concerns and expectations. He stated when staff receives complaints they listen, look for detailed information, provide clear outlines of the investigative process and enforcement action, explain available solutions and an anticipated timeline, continue contact with the complainant and standardize fair and equitable enforcement for every alleged overcrowding case. He outlined the definition of a boarding house and an analysis of the business of boarding houses. Mayor Umstattd verified staff has not received complaints regarding the presence of group homes. Vice Mayor Hammier asked how an issue of multiple cars consistently parked in front of a residence would be addressed. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Page 4 Mr. Burkholder stated as long as the vehicles are tagged and titled they are legal. He stated there are ordinances that could be used to remove cars parked on grass. Vice Mayor Hammler asked if the Town could look at limiting the parking associated with a dwelling as that is a major source of complaints she receives. Ms. Irby stated there is no violation because we do not have permitted parking on most residential streets. She stated unless each home has a certain number of permitted parking spaces there is no violation. Vice Mayor Hammler stated perhaps permitted parking would be an option to address the problem. Mayor Umstattd stated that would not address the problem because if ten people are living in a house with ten vehicles then they would be given a permit for each of their vehicles. Vice Mayor Hammler stated perhaps there could be a maximum number of vehicles per residence. Council Member Martinez expressed concern that such a regulation could impact families with children who have cars. Vice Mayor Hammler stated this is a very serious issue for neighbors. Council Member Wright expressed concern for unintended consequences such as when residents want to have a party. Council Member Dunn stated when the overcrowding enforcement is increased the cars will disappear with the people. Mr. Burkholder outlined the definition of a boarding house and an analysis of the business of boarding houses. He stated staff will come back to Council with a Zoning Ordinance amendment to establish a boarding house use so it can then be prohibited throughout the Town as a means of overcrowding enforcement. Mayor Umstattd verified that prohibiting this use would also allow the Town to pursue the landlord who is operating the boarding house use in the Town without a business license. Mr. Burkholder stated in a situation where all other enforcement options were exhausted and a case were in the hands of the court, having this use would help the Town present its case. He outlined enforcement strategies including the Virginia Uniform Statewide Building Code/Property Maintenance Code and amendments to the zoning ordinance. He outlined enforcement of the ordinances stating enforcement can only occur when sufficient probable cause exists, when a violation has been determined to exist and coordination of efforts among various departments including police, fire, health zoning and building codes. Further, he stated the cooperation of the property owner leads to a faster resolution as staff's primary success has been through voluntary compliance of property owners and tenants. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Page S Mr. Burkholder outlined efforts to prevent overcrowding stating it is critical to reestablish the working relationship with the County building inspectors. Vice Mayor Hammler asked why the working relationship with the County building inspectors ended. Mr, Wells stated the County began looking at this as a cost issue and there was discussion of instituting a fee for this service. He stated the Mayor has sent a letter to the County regarding reestablishing the relationship and the County is now reviewing a memorandum of understanding which may or may not include a fee. There was further discussion regarding the County resources and the possibility of a fee for reestablishing this partnership. Mayor Umstattd stated the issue of overcrowding come up about every two years and it seems like about half of the cases were resolved without County involvement. She stated the other half either needs County involvement or a change in legislation at the federal or state Ievei as we have no legal way of determining whether people are related. She asked if any jurisdiction has had success with proving familiar relationship in court. Mr. Burkholder stated Herndon & Winchester has had limited success. He stated the main difference with Herndon is they have civil penalties that can be Issued when the burden of proof is met. He stated our penalties are automatically criminal. He stated Herndon and Winchester also have a building department working with the Town. Further, he stated we do wish to go to the civil penalty route once we have exhausted ali of our investigative research, Council Member Reid stated he raised the issue of legal changes at the last meeting and asked what changes could be sought. Mr. Burkholder stated the state has taken action to allow zoning administrators to issue administrative search warrants. Council Member Reid asked what type of legislation can we and the County ask for. Ms. Irby stated the County has the building code as an enforcement tool whereas the Town does not have that option. Vice Mayor Hammler stated we need clear next step action items that we as Council can take. Mr. Burkholder stated the most critical next step is to either reestablish the relationship with the County's building inspectors or having Town staff trained as building inspectors so we can enforce the square footage requirements. Ms. Irby stated the first thing is to get the County to work with us and to initiate a zoning ordinance amendment regarding civil penalties, Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Paae 6 Susan Berry Hill stated there are three approaches we are pursuing; (1) amending the zoning ordinance to address the definition of family, boarding house use and civil penalties (2) working with the County and (3) education and outreach with the reality community and HOAs to understand rules and enforcement. Council Member Reid stated he is concerned that we are still beholden to the County and he asked if there are certain legislative initiatives we can take to gain enforcement power on our own. Ms. Irby stated we can have the same enforcement power if we either train our staff as building inspectors or hire a building inspector. Council Member Wright expressed concern with setting the precedent that we will handle building inspections. Council Member Reid stated there may be some type of legislative change that will make enforcement easier for the Town and the County. He stated he is also concerned with the education efforts as he would rather see us get more °teeth" into the law. Vice Mayor Hammier stated she appreciates the Mayor's letter to the Board chairman; however, the there are two supervisors on the Board who are supposed to represent the Town. She stated she would appreciate a summary of what needs to be done. Council Member Reid suggested a dialogue with the County regarding potential legislative changes. Ms. Irby stated the County has all of the enforcement tools they need; however, they are choosing not to use them with respect to the Town. Council Member Martinez expressed concern that if we do our own enforcement it becomes an expense to the Town. Council Member Dunn stated we need to reinforce the relationship with the County. There was further discussion regarding the relationship with the County and the possibility of legislative changes to assist in enforcement. It was the consensus of Council to reach out to the Town's representatives on the Board. Council Member Reid asked how many of the people who comply with staff's enforcement of the regulations then move to another location in Town. Mr. Burkholder stated he does not have a percentage; however, it does happen. Mayor Umstattd stated one of the problems we face is the legislation at the state level regarding the number of residents per square foot would allow ten people in her small house. She stated the real enforcement is in the legislation Town Council Work Session of November 09, 2009 Paae 7 that requires no more than four unrelated adults in a house; however, there is a problem with proving relation. Council Member Reid asked if we should suggest state legislation to change the building code or should that request come from the County. Vice Mayor Hammier asked for a short summary of action steps at the next meeting. Mr. Wells stated he will check with the County to see if they have any related items in their legislative package and whether any costs/fees will be part of the memorandum of understanding. Council Member Dunn stated if people do not have a sense of community they do not take care of the property and it affects everyone in the neighborhood. He stated he has passed the same Subaru wagon with Maryland plates parked on Featherstone Court for months and asked how Tong our Police Department allows non-registered to linger. He stated if we show it is a priority of us as elected officials we can then put pressure on various areas before we try to change state laws. Council Member Reid stated while we are getting these other tools in place we need to talk with the County and VML about legislative changes dealing with the square footage issues. Mayor Umstattd stated also ask the state legislature to change what is required to validly go out and check a suspected property. She stated you should not need to be fully certified as a building inspector to do this. Council Member Reid stated he will suggest that change to our legislative program tomorrow night, Council Member Dunn stated in other parts of the state the square footage rules are not unreasonable. c. I-1 Text Amendments Brian Boucher stated the I-1 District is in four different land use categories in the Town and none are exclusively industrial. He stated 550 acres are zoned I-1 in the Town and about half are in proffered rezoning. He stated currently there are 42 listed uses in the H-1 District, 19 of which are by-right and 23 are by special exception. He stated the policy of requiring special exceptions for most uses was key in the success of the Village at Leesburg development and the associated proffers which provided the comprehensive road network such as the Route 7/Crosstrail Boulevard interchange and large portions of Russell Branch Parkway. He stated the challenge is the balancing test to determine what is the correct level of by-right and special exception uses to keep the district viable while not making it so attractive that rezoning in accordance with the Town Plan will not occur. Council Member Butler stated he would like to eliminate the 50 percent requirement on existing buildings for recreational uses requiring a special exception. He stated in the original meetings where this was discussed staff wanted the 50 percent requirement; whereas, Council did not support this requirement but went along for review purposes. He stated now we have found Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Page 8 that we need to re-advertise the public hearing in order to eliminate the 50 percent requirement. Further, he stated tomorrow he would like to move forward in initiating an amendment to remove the 50 percent. Council concurred with Council Member Butler's proposal. Council Member Wright cautioned that this proposal came forward for a lease at the Nolen building that is no longer in play. He stated the unintended consequences are that it may be appropriate for the Nolen building but may not be as appropriate for some of the larger buildings in this zoning district. He suggested a clause that the building cannot exceed a certain square footage in order to address the concern. Mr. Boucher staff can go into more detail on these concerns. Council Member Dunn stated recreation is a great use for large buildings; however, the uses in the surrounding area may be of concern. He suggested perhaps we look at the properties currently zoned I-1 and whether we need that much industrial use. He stated he would also like a review of the special exception and by-right headings throughout Town. Council Member Wright stated we have some zonings where it does not match what is planned for the property and in conflict with the Town Plan. He stated we need proactive rezonings to get these properties in line. Council Member Reid stated he would not have a problem with aparking- based requirement, He stated it is unfair for someone who owns a building to undergo a special exception, He stated he also feels we need to reexamine some of the use requirements. Further, he suggested that the Planning Commission look at the use requirements and not just the 50 percent issue. Council Member Wright stated the Planning Commission just completed that review. Council Member Reid stated they added uses that are not going to happen; however, if someone wants to open an eating establishment in this district even without adrive-through they have to get a special exception. He stated this is not business friendly and the use table needs to be reviewed. Council Member Butler stated the Planning Commission just reviewed the use tables and Council voted on those recommendations at the last meeting. Council Member Reid stated staff does not want to look at these uses in serious detail. Council Member Wright stated we could have an open slate where people could build anything but the question is do we want the district to migrate to regional or community commercial office or do we want it to stay industrial. He stated the idea is we want the rezonings for these properties to the B district as indicated in the Town Plan. Council Member Martinez stated we had this discussion at our last Council Meeting and the only change we want is to remove the 50 percent requirement. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Paoe 9 Council Member Dunn stated what is needed is to determine which zoning district is more appropriate for this area. Council Member Reid stated he would support initiating that review. After further discussion it was the consensus of Council to proceed with the initiation of an amendment to remove the 50 percent requirement. d. Hybrid Energy Plant Scott Parker stated the Town received a rezoning, special exception and commission permit referral from Loudoun County for a Hybrid Energy Plant in the vicinity of Sycolin Road, Cochran Mill Road and Gant lane. He stated originally the plant was part of the larger Stonewall Secure Business Park application; however, that application is now on hold with the County. He stated the County Planning Commission is set to discuss the plant applicant on December 17 and it will probably go to the Board of Supervisors in the spring. He stated staff's recommendation is generally positive and staff has made some recommendations of items to look for as the application moves forward. Further, he stated the air quality information provided by the applicant to be included in their permit to the state indicates that they meet or exceed state and federal standards including California's standards which are the most stringent. Council Member Reid asked if the smoke stacks or effluent from them will be visible from Tavistock Farms. Mr. Parker stated the applicant has conducted two balloon tests to indicate the overall height of the facility and both times he visited different areas of the Town including Tavistock Farms to try to see the balloons, which were not visible. He stated this is a steam generated facility and according to the application no effluent should be visible. Council Member Reid asked if the plant will be visible from Bolen Park. Mr. Parker stated he could not see the test balloon from Bolen Park. Council Member Reid asked if the Utilities Department supports the concept of the applicant's plan to purchase waste water from the Town and how that would tie into the Lower Sycolin Conveyance System. Mr. Wells stated at this point we need additional answers before we can offer that support. Council Member Reid asked if the applicant has answered staff's questions outlined in the report. Mr. Parker stated staff is in the process of meeting with the applicant's engineers to answer the questions. Council Member Reid recommended getting a letter from the Utilities Department on this application. He stated the applicant provided a presentation to the Environmental Advisory Commission and suggested a similar presentation for Council at a work session. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Page 10 Mr. Parker stated once the application moves further along in the process a memorandum of understanding will be needed from the Council and that a presentation be provided after the first of the year. Council Member Reid stated this has been presented to him as a potential revenue generator for the Utility Fund and he would like to know how much revenue will be generated and if the Utilities Department will support the application. Further, he stated it has also been represented as being environmentally beneficial, There was further discussion regarding the timing of endorsement from the Utility Department. John Andrews, Hybrid Energy Plant applicant, stated he has been working with staff and they have been extremely cooperative. He stated the effluent is important to his project. He stated Loudoun Water has an application to construct a water treatment facility next to the plant locations which will supply raw water from the Potomac. He stated his goal is to create the most environmental friendly plant as possible. Council Member Reid expressed support for bringing new revenue to the Utility Fund and reduce the future rate increases. Mr. Andrews stated he has ensured that the stacks cannot be seen from any residence. Further, he stated the plant uses natural gas so there will not be any smoke. Council Member Dunn stated the issue of the visual impact of the stacks will be of concern to most people. He stated he would Tike to know what the future considerations are for development in this area as the plant will have a potentially negative impact on that. Mr, Andrews stated the three businesses in the area are his plant, the luck Stone Quarry and the proposed Loudoun Water plant. Further, he stated Bolen Park is located adjacent to the other side of the property. Council Member Dunn concurred with Council Member Reid's comments regarding potential revenue for the Utility Department. Council Member Butler stated he had the opportunity to view the presentation at the Environmental Advisory Commission meeting. He asked where the five million gallons of water used each day by the plant will go. Mr. Andrews stated 20 percent of the water is reused and the other 80 percent is evaporated. He stated there will be no discharge back to the Town. Council Member Wright thanked Mr. Andrews for attending the meeting and stated the letter proposed by staff is fine. Vice Mayor Hammier thanked Mr. Andrews and stated she is looking forward to seeing a formal presentation. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Page 11 Mayor Umstattd stated this proposal has potential; however, there are a number of critical unanswered questions. She stated she would feel more comfortable if the application contained language limiting the height of the stacks. She stated she would want to know that this plant is truly exclusively natural gas as both of the previous proposed plants indicated they were solely natural gas; however, they listed oil as back up. Mr, Andrews stated he wants to make sure everything he says is in the proffers. He stated the only alternative that might be used would be if there were a readily available supply of biogas or biofuel in the future. Mayor Umstattd stated natural gas is not entirely clean and she would want to have documentation indicating the maximum level of air pollution. Mr. Andrews stated his success in working in the community is doing what they say they will do. He stated his is working to bring in a partner and wants to be assured that they will build what he has promised. Further, he stated he would put any language necessary in the proffers to assure this. Vice Mayor Hammier stated she would like information on the impact of dumping the waste in drums at the landfill. Mr. Andrews stated more information can be found at his website, www.loudounpower.com. It was the consensus of Council to forward staff's referral letter to the County Planning Commission with additional language indicating Council's desire to have information regarding the maximum levels of air pollution. e. Option for Traffic Signal at Hope Parkway/Sycolin Road Intersection Calvin Grow stated this traffic signal is part of the ultimate road improvements planned to be completed in 2012; however, the signal is currently warranted and staff recommends that the traffic signal be separated out to move forward now. Council Member Reid stated there is a pinch in the road as drivers exit south on Sycolin Road from the Route 7/15 Bypass where the traffic is forced to merge and the Stratford traffic goes right. He stated asked that this phase of the Sycolin Road widening be constructed first. He stated there is a storm drain in this location that is very steep. Mr. Grow stated after talking with Council Member Reid on Monday night he visited the location and found that this area will require major improvements. He stated once drivers come off the bypass there are double left turn lanes that would need to be extended to Hope Parkway. Council Member Reid stated that is part of the widening project. Mr. Grow stated the widening project does go through the Hope Parkway intersection, but does not go all the way to the Route 7/15 Bypass as that intersection is under VDOT design as a flyover. He verified the ultimate improvements would correct the pinch in the road. Town Council Work Session of November 09 2009 Paae 12 Council Member Reid stated the other day he was following his wife on Sycolin Road and a car almost hit her as it went back in the main lane because the vehicle wanted to take the right into Stratford. He stated there are a lot of moves to turn into Stratford now because it is built out and Hope Parkway is not completed ail the way to the Greenway exit. He asked for Council's support to correct the pinch sooner rather than later. Council Member Butler concurred with the need to address the pinch in Sycolin Road. Mayor Umstattd asked the cost of this project and what if any delay it would cause. Mr. Grow stated he would need to talk to Capital Projects staff; however, major improvements would be needed such as a retaining wall and relocation of the existing drainage. Mayor Umstattd asked if the cost would exceed $1 million. Mr. Grow stated he estimated the improvements would cost approximately $500,000. He stated it would be expensive to do this portion separately because you would also have to factor in the cost of mobilization. He stated it is scheduled to be completed in 2012. Council Member Reid asked if restriping could be done to shift the lanes to the left. Council Member Butler stated there is enough room. Mayor Umstattd stated that suggestion sounds more feasible. Council Member Reid expressed the need to address this issue stating someone is going to get hit. He stated he has received complaints from residents who do not understand why the road narrows in this location. He asked if staff is suggesting separating the traffic signal from the widening project to delay it. Mr. Grow stated currently the traffic signal is part of the ultimate improvements for 2012; however, staff recommends separating the traffic signal and adding it to the CIP update to allow a temporary signal to be installed by summer 2010. Council Member Reid stated the traffic signal at Tolbert Lane and Evergreen Mill Road no longer meets the warrants and asked if the poles from that light could be used at Hope Parkway. Mr. Grow stated every intersection is different and probably the only thing that could be salvaged from that light would be the control cabinet. Council Member Reid stated he believes Council Member Butler will agree that residents are taking their lives in their hands by taking a left turn from Hope Parkway on to Sycolin Road. Town Council Work Session of November 09, 2009 Page 13 Council Member Butler stated the left turn has become more difficult not that Sycolin Road is fully paved and more people are using it. It was the consensus of Council to move forward with the restriping on Sycolin Road and the temporary light at Hope Parkway. 2. Additions to Future Council Meetings Council Member Wright stated there is a public hearing tomorrow night regarding the grant for the downtown streetlights. He stated the Planning Commission has asked that Council look at the light fixtures because when the fixtures were originally approved there was not an option to match the fixtures on South King Street; however, another fixture has become available through Virginia Power that is a closer match. He stated staff has not yet had the opportunity to examine whether the fixtures can be "full cut off" to comply with the zoning ordinance and also if changing the fixture would cause the project to be reengineered. He stated Mr. Dentler is looking into whether the fixture change is feasible. Council Member Dunn stated asked that staff look at our zoning districts and where they are located to bring them more in Tine with where we want to take Leesburg forward. Council Member Wright concurred that a longer term work program item is needed. Council Member Martinez stated he would like the EDC to examine the possibility of forming a committee in the next couple of months to work on potential redevelopment projects in the Town of Leesburg. Council Member Dunn stated it has been almost two years since we had a forma'.. meeting with the Board of Supervisors and perhaps it might be time to become more vocal with them. Vice Mayor Hammier suggested scheduling such a meeting to welcome the new County Administrator. Council Member Reid suggested adding an item to the legislative agenda to give the Town the authority to increase the allowable speed limits on roads like the County has with Ashburn Village Parkway. Mr. Wells stated there are limiting factors with certain types of roads such as limited access roads for towns and cities. Council Member Butler stated there is a section in the State Code that allows the Town to ask for an exception from the Commonwealth Transportation Board. Mr. Wells stated he will review this possibility. Council Member Reid stated he would like to have a discussion regarding whether we should eliminate Town curbside brush pick up outside of the fall leaf pick up season and requiring the brush to be placed in a container to be picked up by CSI. Town Council Work Session of November (}9 2flt79 rage 2?d Mayor Umstattd stated that service Is very valuable to many citizens. Council Member Reid suggesi:ed moving to a Schedulad service with an exception for emergency situations. Council Member Wright stated the memo provided indicates that'staff is moving forward with an education j~ragrarn to lirriit the reliance an this service and he does not feel it is necessary to meromanage this program any further. 6~djourn~nt f7n a motion by Council Member Bukler; seconded by meeting was adjourned at 10:18 p:m, 2009_tcwsmtnliQ9 Council Member Wright the E ~ Clerk of GounciC`