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8 THE METROPOLITAN ST. LOUIS SEWER DISTRICT
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9 THE METROPOLITAN ST. LOUIS SEWER DISTRICT
10 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT & REPLACEMENT PROGRAM
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1 A P P E A R A N C E S
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3 PRESIDING RATE COMMISSIONER: Mr. Leonard J. Toenjes
4 RATE COMMISSIONER MEMBER: Mr. Chan Mahanta
5 RATE COMMISSIONER MEMBER: Mr. Steve Mahfood
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1 (Wherein, the following proceedings
2 were had of record, to-wit:
3 MR. TOENJES: Good morning, I'm Len
4 Toenjes, Chair of the Metropolitan St. Louis Sewer
5 District Rate Commission and I will be presiding
6 over the public hearing this morning.
7 With me is the following Rate
8 Commission Members, Mr. Chan Mahanta.
9 MR. MAHANTA: Chan Mahanta.
10 MR. TOENJES: Chad Mahanta. Thank you.
11 The Charter Plan of the District was
12 amended at a general election on November 7th, 2000,
13 and established the Rate Commission to review and
14 make recommendations to the District regarding
15 changes in wastewater rates, stormwater rates, and
16 tax rates proposed by the District.
17 The Charter Plan requires the MSD Board
18 of Trustees to select organizations to ensure a fair
19 representation of all users of the District's
20 services on the Rate Commission. The Rate
21 Commission representative organizations are to
22 represent commercial-industrial users, residential
23 users, and other organizations interested in the
24 operation of the District, including organizations
25 focusing on environmental issues, labor issues,
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1 socioeconomic issues, community neighborhood
2 organizations, and other non-profit organizations.
3 The MSD Rate Commission currently consists of 15
4 members from organizations and institutions
5 throughout St. Louis City and County.
6 On February 26th, 2015, the Rate
7 Commission received a Rate Change Notice proposing
8 changes to the District's wastewater rates and
9 stormwater rates. The Rate Commission adopted
10 operational rules and a Procedural Schedule to
11 govern the proceedings on March 4th, 2015, and
12 amended its Procedural Schedule on May 20, 2015.
13 Under the Procedural Schedule, as amended, the MSD
14 Rate Commission has until August 10th, 2015, to
15 review and make recommendations to the MSD Board of
16 Trustees as to whether proposed rates should be
17 approved, not approved, or modified with suggested
18 changes and then approved.
19 The MSD Rate Commission has engaged
20 legal counsel and a rate consultant independent of
21 those used by the MSD staff.
22 Under procedural rules adopted by the
23 Rate Commission, as amended, any person affected by
24 the Rate Change Proposal had an opportunity to
25 submit an application to intervene in these
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1 proceedings. Applications to intervene have been
2 filed by the Home Builders Association of St. Louis,
3 and the Missouri Industrial Energy Consumers. These
4 applications have been granted.
5 Since February 26th, 2015, the Rate
6 Commission has received testimony from MSD staff.
7 The parties have also engaged in discovery requests.
8 Additional testimony from the Intervenors and the
9 Rate Consultant will be filed. Technical
10 conferences were held on April 8th and May 20th,
11 2015, and are planned for June 17th, 2015, where the
12 participants and the Rate Commission are given an
13 opportunity to ask questions of those submitting
14 testimony.
15 A Prehearing Conference for the purpose
16 of identifying any issues raised by the Rate Setting
17 Documents and the prepared testimony previously
18 submitted will be conducted on the record on June
19 26th, 2015. All persons submitting testimony may
20 participate in the Prehearing Conference, and each
21 participant in the Prehearing Conference shall
22 submit a Prehearing Conference Report describing the
23 issues raised by the Rate Setting Documents and the
24 prepared testimony, together with a brief
25 description of such participant's position, if any,
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1 on each issue and the rationale there for.
2 Ratepayers who do not wish to intervene
3 are permitted to participate in these on-the-record
4 public hearings conducted in ten sessions beginning
5 on May 11th, 2015, and concluding on July 10th,
6 2015.
7 The Rate Commission published a Public
8 Notice regarding these proceedings in the St. Louis
9 Post Dispatch and the St. Louis American. These
10 notices contained the time, dates, and location of
11 each of the conferences and hearings.
12 The Public Hearing Session today is for
13 the purpose of permitting the District to present
14 its wastewater and stormwater Rate Change Proposal,
15 and to permit any ratepayer an opportunity to
16 comment. We will begin with a presentation by the
17 District, followed by a public comment period.
18 Those wishing -- those wishing to speak should sign
19 in on the sheet provided, and will be called on in
20 the order of the names listed thereon. Each
21 ratepayer should identify themselves and any
22 organizations represented by such ratepayer.
23 Housekeeping rules before we begin:
24 If you wish to present testimony,
25 please sign in on the clipboard that is located just
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1 outside the doorway here.
2 Speakers will be recognized in the
3 order in which they sign up.
4 Each ratepayer may have a maximum of
5 ten minutes to speak regarding the proposed rate
6 change. As the presiding officer, I can limit or
7 expand the time should I deem it necessary.
8 Restrooms are located at the end of the
9 corridor to the left.
10 And that concludes the housekeeping.
11 Are there any questions regarding the procedure or
12 the hearing this morning?
13 Mr. Mahfood, we have a special spot
14 here for you.
15 MR. MAHFOOD: Thank you very much.
16 MR. TOENJES: I'll also introduce Mr.
17 Steven Mahfood, an additional rate commissioner here
18 present at the public hearing today.
19 Are there any questions before we
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22 MR. TOENJES: Hearing none, is the
23 District ready to proceed?
24 MR. HOELSCHER: Yes, we are, Mr. Chair.
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1 begin your presentation.
2 MR. HOELSCHER: Thank you. I'm Brian
3 Hoelscher, I'm the Executive Director here at MSD.
4 Before we start, we are bringing down copies of the
5 presentation I'm going to make right now, and as
6 they come, I will stop and hand them out to those of
7 the public who are here and the Rate Commission.
8 A couple of things, this is based on a
9 proposal that was submitted to the Rate Commission
10 on February 26th, 2015. After my presentation,
11 there will be time for public comment. We will stop
12 the session and allow, as described by Mr. Toenjes,
13 comments from the public.
14 If you have questions other than just
15 comments for the public record on the Rate Proposal,
16 we have a lot of MSD staff here, we can answer a lot
17 of questions having to do with MSD after this
18 meeting and they'll be available for as long as it
19 takes to answer all the questions that the public
20 may have.
21 There are two drivers, two things we're
22 looking to accomplish. First of all, on wastewater,
23 just to remind everybody, the Capital Program and
24 its costs and its schedule is being driven by a
25 consent decree that was signed with the Department
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1 of Justice and the EPA in April of 2012. The work
2 being done is to be in compliance with that consent
3 decree. That's the primary driver of all the
4 wastewater expenses you'll see.
5 The other has to do with stormwater.
6 You will see us requesting a District-wide
7 stormwater tax to alleviate some irregularities and
8 some inconsistencies with the way we collect
9 revenues and the services we provide throughout the
10 District. Those aren't driven by any regulatory
11 need, those are simply driven by service level needs
12 for our customers.
13 First, remember MSD is two utilities.
14 One, we provide wastewater service. So any water
15 that goes down, used water from sinks, toilets,
16 washing machines, floor drains, go into our pipes,
17 they travel often times through many miles of sewers
18 to one of seven treatment plants.
19 Those treatment plants treat that waste
20 and discharge it to the creeks and streams in
21 compliances with the permits that are issued by the
22 Missouri Department of Natural Resources and the
23 EPA.
24 This service is funded by your monthly
25 storm -- by the monthly waste water bill that all
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1 residents receive -- receive. It is based on the
2 amount of portable water usage you use during the
3 winter months. The idea being that's a reflection
4 of the amount of water that goes down our sewers
5 and, therefore, we don't capture water usage for
6 things such as washing cars or filling swimming
7 pools or watering yards.
8 The second is MSD also provides a
9 stormwater service. Any stormwater that does not
10 soak into the ground or naturally travel to local
11 creeks and streams, MSD provides a storm sewer
12 system, inlets, manholes, paved concrete channels,
13 to conduct that flow through the urban areas and out
14 to the local creeks and streams.
15 We also do, though, address regulatory
16 requirements regarding that runoff, and that has to
17 do with the pollutants that are in stormwater runoff
18 that affects the water quality in creeks and
19 streams. MSD does have a responsibility to address
20 that issue as well. Almost all of the revenues for
21 stormwater came through your annual property tax
22 bill.
23 So again, there's two sources of
24 revenue, two completely different services, and we
25 cannot switch back and forth revenues and use
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1 stormwater revenues for wastewater purposes or
2 wastewater revenues for stormwater purposes.
3 Again, MSD Rate Commission was
4 established in 2000 to provide public input into how
5 MSD sets its rates.
6 There are 15 organizations that
7 represent a cross-section of the community as was
8 previously described.
9 They review all of the proposed rate
10 changes that are charter define parameters that they
11 will review our MSD staff rate proposal.
12 The Rate Commission will then take
13 those recommendations, they will send them to our
14 Board of Trustees, who will do the same type of
15 review of recommendations for the Rate Commission.
16 The Rate Proposal we're sending to the
17 Rate Commission considers MSD rates for fiscal years
18 2017 to 2020, that will be the bills/revenues we
19 collect from July 1, 2016 to June 30th, 2020.
20 Wastewater, I want to first give just
21 some information on the current wastewater rates.
22 Under the current rate proposal that
23 we're under right now, which we're charging our
24 revenues, there was an anticipation that we would
25 have to appropriate 971 million dollars over those
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1 four years to start capital work to be in compliance
2 with our consent decree.
3 Right now, it appears at the end of
4 fiscal 16, that would be June 30th, 2016, plan on
5 appropriating about 890 million dollars of capital
6 work. That's about 95 percent of planned. That is
7 good. MSD is on schedule and under budget for the
8 work that needs to be done in compliance with
9 consent decree.
10 The reduction in the cost of the
11 program has to do with some costs savings identified
12 during construction and during the design, as well
13 as some significant -- significantly good prices we
14 are getting from our the contracting community right
15 now.
16 On the Operation and Maintenance side,
17 same thing. We are on time. We are on budget.
18 There are Operation and Maintenance activities that
19 are also governed by the consent decree and the
20 production targets are governed by the consent
21 decree.
22 The last rate proposal we anticipated
23 needing revenues of 716 million dollars to pay for
24 those operation and maintenance activities over
25 these current four years. Right now we're
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1 anticipating we will spend 700 million dollars.
2 The wastewater operation, what those
3 accomplishments are, besides running the treatment
4 plants and pump stations, is inspection of 62,000
5 manholes, rehabilitation of 6600 manholes,
6 inspection of 1900 miles of sewers. That has
7 resulted in a significant decrease in the amount of
8 overflows in MSD's system.
9 Based on two similar storms in a
10 similar part of the District, one prior to starting
11 this work and one after. Right now we're
12 anticipating we've seen a 66 percent reduction in
13 basement backups since our cleaning program and our
14 Operation and Maintenance program has begun.
15 Proposal. Proposed wastewater rate
16 change, those drivers. Again, it's called MSD
17 Project Clear, it is to meet our regulatory
18 requirements.
19 One of the biggest things, most
20 important things we need to do is get the rain out
21 of the system. This is a wet weather issue on the
22 wastewater side. When it isn't raining, like today,
23 unless the pipe has collapsed or somebody has
24 flushed grease down the pipe to block it, all the
25 wastewater goes into our pipes, all the wastewater
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1 goes to the treatment plants, and all the wastewater
2 gets treated before being discharged in our creeks
3 and streams. We don't have overflow to the capacity
4 that happens during non-rain events. Our issue is
5 that stormwater is getting into the system, either
6 too much or where it's not supposed to get in.
7 The idea is to eliminate that problem.
8 Stormwater gets into our wastewater sewers, it
9 causes them to overcharge to the environment or to
10 the individual homes, also it combines sewer
11 systems. By reducing the amount of stormwater that
12 gets into those systems, we can reduce the amount of
13 overflows that go to the environment.
14 The second part is repair and
15 maintenance of the system. We need to continuously
16 provide repair and maintenance on a schedule to make
17 sure our pipes will last for a long time. We do
18 have sewer systems that were built in the 1850s that
19 are still working, but those systems do need
20 rehabilitation so they continue to work and avoid
21 any kind of expensive repair later on during
22 failure. Also, in some of these instances we will
23 have to build system improvements.
24 We want to do this work in a
25 financially responsible manner and maintain the
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1 financial stability of MSD. We're doing this by
2 monitoring our Bond rating. Currently, MSD has a
3 Triple A Bond rating with Standard & Poor's and a
4 double A one and double A plus with Fitch and
5 Moody's, bond rating agencies.
6 The proposal you'll see, there's a long
7 term analysis that's included in the Rate Proposal,
8 and the idea is for us to -- the plan is to not go
9 below the parameters as we currently understand them
10 so our bond rating never goes below double A.
11 Double A bond rating is currently the industry
12 standard for utilities that are in our situation to
13 address consent decree type issues.
14 What does the Capital Program look like
15 over the next four fiscal years? This is a schedule
16 that shows when we will start the capital work. 330
17 million dollars in 2017, 440 million dollars
18 starting in 2020, totaling 1.5 billion dollars.
19 We anticipate needing 736 million
20 dollars of revenue for Operation and Maintenance and
21 477 million dollars in debt service. That is for
22 past bond sales, that debt service, as well as the
23 planned bonds that we are going to ask the rate
24 payers to approve for this next four-year cycle.
25 And the debt service is associated with those during
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1 fiscals 2017 to 2020.
2 How will we use the debt? We'll fund
3 the next four years through a combination of cash
4 and bonds. Right now we're anticipating for that
5 1.1 billion dollar program, 415 million dollars of
6 it being paid for in cash. That is taking the funds
7 that directly -- that come to us that you pay on
8 your monthly bill and applying those to capital
9 projects as we get the money.
10 The rest is to be bond financed and
11 we're anticipating funding 1.1 billion dollars of
12 that 1.5 billion with bonding. Right now we have
13 200 million dollars of bond authorization that's
14 left over from the current cycle, so therefore we
15 would have to ask the ratepayers to approve an
16 authorization of an additional 900 million dollars
17 worth of bonding. That would bring our total debt
18 authorization to 2.62 billion dollars.
19 Remember that all of the debt that we
20 take through bonds is used on capital projects.
21 It's not used for Operation and Maintenance.
22 As a matter of fact, if you remember
23 the previous slide, the fact that we are coming
24 under budget for capital, coming under budget in the
25 Operation and Maintenance, any monies left over from
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1 the Capital Program are rolled into the next four
2 years Capital Program. They are not used for
3 Operation and Maintenance. They are used to reduce
4 costs for future Capital Programming.
5 The same with Operation and
6 Maintenance, any monies left over go into the next
7 cycle and they provide a pot to start with and
8 reduce rates using those funds for Operation and
9 Maintenance.
10 What do you get in the wastewater
11 proposal? There's 600 planned projects in planning,
12 design and construction, 230 of those are
13 construction projects. During that four-year
14 period, they will move 39 sanitary sewer overflows
15 as a separate sanitary system and start the design
16 of 24 miles of storage and conveyance tunnels.
17 As I mentioned earlier, the first
18 target is to try and prevent the stormwater from
19 getting into the system. Doing that, as opposed to
20 building larger facilities, it's four to five times
21 cheaper to keep the stormwater out ahead of time
22 than to make larger facilities.
23 In some cases, though, that's not
24 sufficient. So we do have some places in the system
25 where we will build storage, we'll allow those
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1 overflows to happen into a storage tunnel or a
2 storage chamber, wait until the storm is over, and
3 then takes not captured flows and run them through
4 the treatment plants for treatment, so it is another
5 method of accomplishing the same purpose.
6 What are the wastewater projects? We
7 will get you a copy of this presentation before the
8 end of it, I promise that. This is a map showing
9 where all of the projects, all the wastewater
10 projects are at. In this map, there's the five
11 digit number that expresses the projects that are
12 being done.
13 You notice the reference in the lower
14 left-hand Appendix 7.2.2, all of this information is
15 currently on the website as part of our Rate
16 Proposal. If you go to MSD's web site at
17 www.stl.com and take a look at the Rate Proposal,
18 you'll see this information here.
19 What you will also find -- and we have
20 a copy of that map up here to my right. Within that
21 Rate Proposal, you'll see what those numbers are,
22 you can see them here today. Also on our Rate
23 Proposal is a spread sheet listing all the projects
24 that we are proposing for over the next four years.
25 Within that spread sheet is the problem
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1 we're solving, how we will solve the problem, what
2 the cost is, and what fiscal year we plan on
3 starting the project.
4 For today, we do have a copy of that
5 spread sheet here, so if you'd like to take a look
6 at it after the presentation, feel free to do so,
7 but remember, all this information since we
8 submitted the rate proposal available on our
9 website.
10 Operation and Maintenance. Again,
11 besides the Operation and Maintenance of our seven
12 large treatment plants and the pump stations, what
13 we'll also accomplish is an inspection of $60,000.00
14 manholes, rehabilitation of 6,000 manholes,
15 inspection of 1600 miles of sewer with closed
16 circuit TV. These are cameras we run down the
17 system. Cleaning of 3800 miles of sewers and
18 rehabilitation of 360 miles of sewer.
19 How will it be paid for? That will be
20 up to the voters. If you take a look at the
21 left-hand column up on the screen, this option is
22 assuming that ratepayers allow MSD an additional 900
23 million dollars of bond and authority.
24 If they do, we will start 1 .5 billion
25 dollars worth of capital work, as I previously
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1 described, and this is a chart of the average single
2 family wastewater sewer bill. Your monthly bill.
3 Coming July 1 of 2015, this year, under
4 the current rate cycle, the cost, the average cost
5 for a customer will be $40.72 per month. If
6 additional bond authorization -- bond authorization
7 is allowed by the voters, that will go up to $60.86
8 in 2020, about a 50 percent overall increase.
9 Where are the current rates throughout
10 the country? It depends where you are and whether
11 or not the EPA has, the Department of Justice has
12 taken a look at you. Right now throughout the
13 country, folks are paying anywhere between 15 and
14 $135.00 a month for its water service. I just used
15 currently somewhere in the middle.
16 If you take a look at the right where
17 voters reject bonds, this is Option B. The voters
18 may decide they do not want to authorize any
19 additional bond authority.
20 And I am going to stop right now and if
21 anybody -- are those the presentations? Anybody
22 with the public would like a copy of this, this is a
23 good chart for us to get started on, and you can
24 turn to page 13, as soon as everybody indicates
25 they're there, I will continue. So we'll wait for
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1 just a second.
2 (Off the record.)
3 MR. HOELSCHER: Okay. If you go to
4 slide 13, on the right-hand column, the voters
5 reject bonds, Option B. The voters have the right
6 to decide not to authorize any bonding authority.
7 If they do, we still have to do the
8 1 -- start at 1.5 billion dollars worth of capital
9 work during that four year period to meet the
10 consent decree that was filed by the Department of
11 Justice and the EPA.
12 Again, in fiscal 16, the current year,
13 starting July 1, 2015, the average wastewater bill
14 for our customers will be $40.72. Fiscal 17 the
15 cost per month looks the same as the previous
16 scenario, that's because we are using up the
17 bonding -- the remaining bonding capacity already
18 approved by the voters.
19 After that, we will pay for the capital
20 with cash, the monthly bills. That will require
21 that the average monthly bill for our ratepayers by
22 2020, it goes up to $96.00 per month.
23 That was wastewater, now we'll talk
24 stormwater. I want to talk about current stormwater
25 services and funding. This is a map of the
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1 District. If you look to the east or right, it's
2 the Mississippi River, to the north is the Missouri
3 River, to the south wiggling in and out is the
4 Meramec River along Jefferson County, and to the
5 west, as far as we go out into St. Louis County, is
6 about Highway 109 in Wildwood. That's the limits of
7 the District's boundaries.
8 What stormwater funding we collect
9 there varies depending on where you live. If you
10 live in the red area, right now MSD collects
11 twenty-four cents per month monthly fee, as well as
12 charges of a two cent property tax.
13 With those revenues, we comply with all
14 state, local, and federal regulatory compliance for
15 stormwater that has to do with making sure that new
16 development doesn't come in and cause additional
17 flows, we require them to retain flows so that they
18 don't increase the flows due to the pervious area.
19 It also allows us to address the issue of pollutants
20 and stormwater runoff in compliance with the permit
21 that the area is under. MSD serves as a policeman
22 or a permitting authority for that.
23 It allows us to collect that and track
24 stormwater issues, and it also allows us to provide
25 emergency response. For MSD, emergency response is
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1 something such as erosion causing such a problem
2 somebody's owes home is ready to drop in the creek,
3 or a system is not allowed to work and it's going to
4 cause flooding on the next storm. Those are the
5 issues we'll address. Other than that, we have no
6 additional funding.
7 If you live in the yellow area, and
8 you'll notice there's a blue line that runs just
9 inside that yellow area, that's the City of St.
10 Louis boundary. So the yellow area primarily is the
11 City of St. Louis, near North, West and South
12 County. In that area, they pay the twenty-four cent
13 fee, they pay the two cent property tax, but they
14 pay an additional seven cent property tax. That
15 means we can do all the regulatory work that I
16 previously described, but that extra seven cent tax
17 allows us to pretty well provide Operation and
18 Maintenance for the existing storm sewer system,
19 inlets, manholes, paved channels.
20 In neither the yellow or the pink are
21 we able to do capital projects to address things
22 such as flooding or erosion. That's not permitted.
23 We don't have funding to address those.
24 However, if you live in the green area,
25 you pay a twenty-four cent fee, two cent property
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1 tax, a seven cent property tax, and up to an
2 additional ten cent property tax. We're able to do
3 all the regulatory work, we're able to maintain,
4 operate and maintain the public storm sewer system.
5 It also provides money to do capital projects to
6 address other stormwater issues, such as erosion or
7 flooding. So if you hear MSD doing any of those
8 projects being done in that green area with revenues
9 being collected.
10 That green area represents about 21
11 different tax and subdistricts. Whatever
12 subdistrict we collect monies out of, we spend them
13 back in that subdistrict. We cannot exchange money
14 throughout those subdistricts in the green area.
15 So what does that mean for the average
16 cost per customer? Based on the average value of a
17 home, if you live in the red area and you're paying
18 the twenty-four cents fee and the two cent property
19 tax, the average customer primarily through their
20 annual property tax bill was paying MSD $8.00 per
21 year for the stormwater services they're receiving.
22 If you live in the yellow area and
23 you're getting the regulatory work, plus we're able
24 to maintain the public storm sewer system, you're
25 paying a twenty-four cent fee, two cent property
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1 tax, seven cent property tax. For the average
2 District property owner, mostly on their annual
3 property tax bill, it's a cost of about $26.00 per
4 year for stormwater services.
5 If you live in the green area, you're
6 receiving the regulatory work, the Operation and
7 Maintenance of the storm sewers, and we're able to
8 do some projects to alleviate other stormwater
9 issues, and you're paying the twenty-four cent fee,
10 two cent property tax, seven cent property tax, and
11 up to another ten cent property tax, the average
12 customer primarily on their annual property tax bill
13 is paying MSD $53.00 per year for that service.
14 What I'm going to do now is take a
15 couple of slides and explain what single issue MSD
16 is trying to resolve with this proposal.
17 If you look on this chart, you notice
18 the entire area is paying a two cent property tax,
19 and so if you see in the upper right-hand corner,
20 we've got the entire District boundaries colored in
21 pink. With that, it ensures compliance with all the
22 local, state, and federal stormwater regulations.
23 Again, that's plan review and permitting. It
24 addresses any increases in water volume, it
25 addresses runoff, pollutants associated with
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1 stormwater runoff, and their impact on our local
2 creeks and streams. We do a lot of that primarily
3 through a code permitting process with MSD and 60
4 municipalities in the area. We all have various
5 activities we perform to meet that permit. It
6 allows to do complaint investigation and collect
7 data on where stormwater issues are. It also allows
8 us to respond to emergencies, and critical health
9 and safety situations.
10 This is a representation of the
11 facilities that are served by those services. If
12 you look on those blue lines, those are all creeks
13 within MSD boundaries. There are 1154 miles of
14 creeks. Those are what we're protecting with the
15 activities I mentioned, either increase in volume or
16 the stormwater -- the pollutants in stormwater that
17 affect the water quality of those creeks and
18 streams.
19 Also, you will see green dots. There's
20 2,638 of those. Those are basins. Those may either
21 be your typical stormwater detention basins, or
22 basins such as rain guards and those types of things
23 to help assist with control of pollutants that are
24 in stormwater runoff.
25 MSD serves as a policing permitting
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1 authority for those facilities. We don't maintain
2 any of them, but we do have requirements with regard
3 to monitoring and providing regulations for new
4 development and their impact on that area. All of
5 that work is currently funded through the two cent
6 property tax.
7 This next slide is a representation of
8 what is not funded. Black lines you see there are
9 representation of MSD's public storm sewer system.
10 It's approximately 1363 miles of storm sewer in that
11 area. The Operation and Maintenance of those storm
12 sewers are not currently funded. They are MSD's,
13 they represent approximately one half of the public
14 storm sewer system that MSD owns, but they're
15 currently is not any funding to operate and maintain
16 those.
17 If an inlet is busted, we cannot
18 replace it. If an open joint in a storm sewer
19 causes a sink hole in somebody's back yard, we'll
20 fix the sink hole, but we don't have money to fix
21 the pipe. And if a discharge of storm sewer,
22 erosion or some problems with the discharge in the
23 local creek or stream or somebody's back yard, we
24 can't address those issues. We just do some quick
25 patchwork.
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1 So that work is currently not funded.
2 MSD is looking for two things. One is to get the
3 funding necessary in order to operate and maintain
4 these systems. The second part is if you live in
5 this area, this is the red area that was on the
6 original map, there is no payment for the operation
7 and maintenance of MSD's public storm system
8 anywhere in our District.
9 You used and benefited from MSD's
10 public storm system to get here today. Probably the
11 biggest thing the storm sewer system does is take
12 water from streets, conveys it and gets it to local
13 creeks and streams so those roadways operate
14 properly.
15 MSD is looking to find a way to collect
16 revenues from everybody who uses that system to
17 provide Operation and Maintenance for the public
18 storm sewer system District-wide.
19 So what does the proposed program look
20 like? What MSD is going to propose is a ten cent
21 District-wide property tax to replace the current
22 system of collecting taxes. With that, we're
23 anticipating four years of Operation and Maintenance
24 expense of about 91 million dollars, and a six year
25 program from fiscal -- from this year to 2020 of
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1 just under a hundred million dollars.
2 Again, what is driving that? It is a
3 necessity to be able to maintain the public storm
4 sewer system. One half of our public storm sewer is
5 currently not funded. And it does for the first
6 time initiate some limited capital monies to address
7 other stormwater problems that are not part of the
8 public storm sewer system District-wide. Again,
9 things such as flooding and erosion.
10 So what is the proposed stormwater
11 operating costs? The last year, the current cycle
12 under our current service level, we're anticipating
13 expenditures of 16 million dollars in 2016 to pay
14 for the Operation and Maintenance of about one half
15 of our system. That goes up to about 22 to 23
16 million dollars or a little under a 50 percent
17 increase over these four years.
18 That 50 percent increase will allow us
19 to operate and maintain the system double the size
20 of what we currently operate and maintain. There
21 are some economies of scale being able to take on
22 that extra system, so the costs don't double, they
23 go up a little under 50 percent to operate and
24 maintain the entire system.
25 There will also be projects associated
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1 with the Rate Proposal. I'm going to go down each
2 one of these individually. Again, each one of these
3 has a number in the little circles. Those numbers
4 refer to a project. You can either go to our Rate
5 Proposal that's on-line, we actually have copies of
6 it here, or we have a reproduction over here on my
7 left of that same map. The map with the projects.
8 Also, we have a spread sheet that goes with that
9 that shows what problems we're resolving, what the
10 solution is, what the cost is, and what you will
11 anticipate starting the project.
12 So if you're in the green area, we have
13 identified 64 projects worth about 25 billion
14 dollars. The funding for these comes from that
15 extra ten cent tax to be paid by folks in the green
16 area.
17 Under either scenario, most of this
18 work will get done anyway because we're currently
19 collecting those funds. Some of it would not be
20 done because some of the new tax is currently
21 alleviating -- some of that tax reflected actually
22 goes toward Operation and Maintenance and not
23 capital work. But essentially for the projects you
24 see there, we can build under either scenario.
25 If you're in the yellow area, where
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1 we've never built any capital projects to alleviate
2 flooding or erosion, we've identified 47 projects
3 worth about 17 and a half million dollars. About
4 half that dollar value is in the City of St. Louis,
5 the other half is in near North, West, and South
6 County.
7 Those monies come from a change in the
8 current accounting that's required under the current
9 funding. There are restrictions on the monies we
10 currently collect. This ten cent wide property tax
11 will eliminate those, and will take monies collected
12 in that yellow area and spend them just in that
13 yellow area this one time for capital projects.
14 In the red area, we've identified 59
15 projects worth seven and a half million dollars.
16 The money from this comes from the new ten cent
17 property tax. Right now we're anticipating just
18 under nine cents of that tax is needed for Operation
19 and Maintenance. The balance we are committing to
20 doing capital projects District-wide to resolve
21 flooding and erosion issues.
22 For this four year period, they all
23 happen to be in the red area. Again, this
24 evaluation would be done District-wide, however with
25 the current funding that's available, the yellow and
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1 red area, all the high priority projects for this
2 four-year period are in that red area.
3 For every stormwater projet, MSD does a
4 cost benefit analysis. They take the value of the
5 benefit, they divide it by the cost, and the highest
6 numbers get funding first. That's the scenario
7 that's a calculation we did to come up with these
8 projects.
9 The next slide is what happens with all
10 the existing taxes and the revenue. If you're in
11 the green area and you're paying that extra five to
12 ten cent property tax, MSD will set that tax rate at
13 zero. It will no longer collect that property tax.
14 For the yellow tax, that's paid for the
15 yellow and green area, the seven cent property tax,
16 it will be replaced with the new ten cent property
17 tax, it will go away. The District-wide regulatory
18 tax of two cents will stay in place. Right now that
19 funds our current commitment with regard to
20 stormwater regulatory issues. It's properly funded
21 and we're not proposing any changes for that two
22 cent tax. We would also then implement, or propose
23 to implement a based on the vote of the people a ten
24 cent wide property tax for District-wide stormwater
25 services. Also, the twenty-four cent per month
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1 monthly charge that's on everybody's wastewater bill
2 for stormwater services District-wide, that will
3 also be replaced by the ten cent tax and no longer
4 be collected.
5 So what is the impact? The actual
6 dollar impact on individuals? It depends on where
7 you live. We'll start with that green area, the
8 area between the city and 270 approximately. If you
9 remember, currently they're paying the twenty-four
10 cent fee, two cent property tax, seven cent property
11 tax, and ten cent property tax.
12 Based on an average property valuation,
13 that green area of just over a hundred and
14 eighty-four thousand dollars per property, the
15 average person on their annual property tax bill
16 pays MSD about $62.00 per year for stormwater
17 service.
18 If the proposed rate goes in place,
19 turning off some taxes, starting others, that total
20 will go down to about $42.00 per year, for about a
21 one third decrease. $20.00 per year decrease.
22 As far as the overall property tax bill
23 for the average customer living in that area, your
24 overall property tax bill would go down one half of
25 one percent. MSD's charge is a very minor part of
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1 everybody's annual property tax bills, therefore the
2 impact on the overall property tax bill is fairly
3 minor.
4 If you live in any of the yellow area,
5 you're paying the two cent -- seven cent property
6 tax, the average property value in those areas are
7 $70,800.00. The average customer on their annual
8 property tax bill right now is paying $12.50 per
9 year. Under the proposed change for the average
10 property taxpayer that would go up $3.60 per year,
11 resulting in an average annual property tax bill for
12 stormwater services of $16.10 per year.
13 Again, change in overall property tax,
14 that would be an increase for those folks of about
15 three tenths of one percent, or an increase of $3.00
16 for every thousand dollars of property tax they
17 currently pay.
18 Finally, if you live in the red area,
19 if you recall there is very little services
20 currently provided in the red area, therefore they
21 see the biggest impact. They currently pay a two
22 cent property tax. The average property value in
23 the red area is $266,700.00. Based on that rate,
24 the average person on their average annual property
25 tax bill pays MSD about $10.50 per year for
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1 stormwater services.
2 With the proposed ten cent tax
3 increase, that would increase that by about $50.00,
4 resulting in the average customer paying $60.60 per
5 year on their average -- on their annual property
6 tax bill for stormwater services. As far as your
7 overall property tax bill, for the average customer
8 that's an increase of 1.2 percent on your average
9 annual property tax bill.
10 So what is the total impact to
11 customers? On slide 30. There's two columns here,
12 the one on the left is assuming that the voters
13 authorize additional bonding authority and the one
14 on the right is assuming they do not.
15 So on the left-hand side with new
16 bonding, you see the total annual cost for a
17 customer is currently in 2016 will be about $522.00
18 per year for all of MSD's services. If the two
19 proposals I indicated go through with bonding, that
20 will go up to $771.00 per year in 2020 for all of
21 the services that MSD provides.
22 The right-hand column is assuming the
23 voters do not authorize additional bonding
24 authority. Again, 2016 the cost for the average
25 customer will be $522.00 per year for all the
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1 services MSD provides. By 2020, that would go up to
2 just under $1200.00 per year for the average
3 customer, again for all the services that MSD
4 provides.
5 Slide 31 is just an indication that we
6 do have a customer assistance program for low-income
7 individuals. What happens is your wastewater bill
8 is cut in half if you qualify for low income.
9 If you compare this to the previous
10 chart, they are identical, the two columns, you will
11 note that the cost per year is about one half of
12 what you saw in the previous column, and that's
13 reflective of one half of the wastewater rate being
14 collected.
15 So what will happen in the future?
16 Again, MSD submitted -- its staff submitted its
17 proposal to the Rate Commission on February 26th,
18 2015. There will be an increase on July 1 of 2015
19 under the current rate structure, that will bring us
20 to those 2016 numbers that you saw on the chart I
21 previously showed you. The Rate Commission will
22 evaluate MSD's staff's proposal and make a
23 recommendation to our board by August 10th, 2015.
24 Our board will take the Rate
25 Commission's Proposal, they will spend October
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1 through November reviewing that Proposal and
2 evaluate it in the same way that the Rate Commission
3 did their evaluation of MSD's proposal, and they
4 will come up with a decision by December of 2015.
5 What happens after that? Two things.
6 There will be have to be two votes by the public.
7 On the wastewater side, it's whether or not to
8 appropriate 900 -- or authorize an additional 900
9 million dollars worth of bonding authority to MSD
10 for its future program. That vote will occur some
11 time in 2016.
12 The voters will have a decision that if
13 they do want to authorize an additional 900 million
14 dollars in bonding authority, you'll be on that rate
15 schedule, the one that starts about $40.00 a month
16 and goes to $60.00 a month. If they do not
17 authorize additional bonding authority, rates will
18 go from that $40.00 per month in 2016 to the charge
19 showing rates going to on an average month of $96.00
20 per month.
21 It will be up to the ratepayers. It's
22 much like the decision you make on whether to borrow
23 money or not. If you do authorize additional
24 bonding authority, it will keep the rates lower for
25 now, however some time in the future for every
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1 dollar we borrow you will have to pay $2.00 back in
2 the future as we pay off the interest expense on the
3 loans.
4 You may decide -- the ratepayers may
5 decide that they do not want to vote for the bonding
6 authority. If they do, prices go up significantly
7 more than they do on the bonding scenario, but in
8 future years you have better opportunities to lower
9 rates faster because you do not have debt service.
10 It will be up to the ratepayers to decide what the
11 appropriate way to pay for wastewater is.
12 There will also be a vote for
13 stormwater. And that will be whether or not the
14 voters want to approve a ten cent District-wide
15 stormwater tax to pay for District-wide stormwater
16 services.
17 If the voters decide to pay the ten
18 cent -- to put the ten cent tax in place, we will
19 have that new program I showed with District-wide
20 and District-wide capital projects to address
21 erosion and flooding.
22 If the voters decide not to approve the
23 ten cent District-wide stormwater tax, the revenues
24 we collect and the service levels will stay the
25 same. If you remember the red, yellow, green map,
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1 the different sets of services, those will stay in
2 place and we will continue providing you different
3 set of services throughout the District depending on
4 where you live. It will be up to the voters.
5 We don't know when the 2016 those votes
6 are. We have to work that out yet and schedule it
7 with -- consider everything else that may be going
8 on in 2016, however prior to any vote MSD staff will
9 go out, we will not advocate one position or the
10 other, but we will provide educational presentations
11 to let folks know what happens if you vote yes and
12 what happens if you vote no.
13 In just a minute I'm going to open the
14 floor up for comment. You have the ability to put
15 comments on the public record today. If not, you
16 can also submit comments to the Rate Commission. If
17 you want to email, you can email Janice Fenton at
18 stlmsd.com. Send her your comments. We will make
19 sure those get put into the record and the Rate
20 Commission has access to those. Or if you would
21 like to mail your comments, you can also mail them
22 to the 2350 Market Street address in care of Eric
23 Schneider, Secretary of the Rate Commission. We
24 will also make sure that they will be included in
25 the process.
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1 I want to point out there's two
2 handouts that are in addition to this. One is
3 entitled MSD Rate Commission. That is information
4 on the Rate Commission, that's probably the piece
5 that you don't have. Along the right-hand side is
6 the blue bar, and those are the 15 organizations who
7 are on our Rate Commission, and who the individuals
8 are that are representing those organizations. It
9 also gives you a sense of the Rate Commission
10 process.
11 The other document says 2015 MSD Rate
12 Proposal. It has two sides, one is a synopsis of
13 the wastewater rates that I previously discussed.
14 On the back side where it says stormwater, you'll
15 see that red, yellow, green map, and it's the
16 synopsis for two options for stormwater that I just
17 previously presented.
18 So with that, if the Rate Commission
19 would like to open the floor to any public comment.
20 MR. TOENJES: Let me ask if any of the
21 Rate Commissions have any questions.
22 MR. MAHANTA: No.
23 MR. TOENJES: Barry Leibman.
24 MR. BARRY LEIBMAN: Actually I'm a
25 member of the Missouri Collision for the Environment
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1 and came to educate myself and listen to what is
2 being said. It's been quite educational. Thank
3 you.
4 MR. TOENJES: Thank you for being here.
5 Hearing no questions and no additional
6 comments, we will consider the public hearing
7 closed. I thank everyone for being here, thank
8 everybody for their participation.
9 Our next public hearing and final
10 public hearing will be conducted July 10th, 2015, at
11 nine AM here in this room. The public hearing is
12 now adjourned.
13 (Adjourned.)
14 (WHEREIN, the hearing was concluded at
15 9:50 AM.)
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1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
2 STATE OF MISSOURI )
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4 I, Kathleen Watson Brunsmann, a
5 Certified Court Reporter (MO), Certified Shorthand
6 Reporter (IL), Registered Professional Reporter,
7 Certified Realtime Reporter, do hereby certify that
8 the witness whose testimony appears in the foregoing
9 deposition was duly sworn by me; that the testimony
10 of said witness was taken by me to the best of my
11 ability and thereafter reduced to typewriting under
12 my direction; that I am neither counsel for, related
13 to, nor employed by any of the parties to the action
14 in which this deposition was taken, and further that
15 I am not a relative or employee of any attorney or
16 counsel employed by the parties thereto, nor
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