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HILLSBOROUGH, NORTH CAROLINA
JOINT PUBLIC HEARING
Board of Commissioners
and
Planning Board
October 23, 1990
7:00 PM
Town Barn
To amend the Hillsborough Thoroughfare Plan by deleting
the Davis Road extension and improvements. (attachment 1-6)
VISION 2010 - results of the input sessions and survey and to
receive public comment regarding the VISION 2010 plan.
Rezoning requested by the Planning Board to rezone approx.
25 acres of land at the nottheast and the northwest corners
of Eliz. Brady Rd. and Hwy 70A from OI (Office -Institutional)
to GI (General Industrial). part of 4.37.C.11 (attachment 7-11)
Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment to amend pages 100 and 101 to
provide for written tree and shrub planting details and
guidelines. (attachment 12-15)
Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment to amend the definition of
setback to allow gutters and eaves to project into the
setback 24 inches or less. (attachment 16)
Please contact Janet Rigsbee at 732-2104 if you cannot
attend this Public Hearing.
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MINUTES
JOINT PUBLIC HEARING
HILLSBOROUGH BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND PLANNING BOARD
OCTOBER 23, 1990
Members Mayor Horace Johnson, Commissioners Bob Rose, Carol Lorenz, Allen
Present: Lloyd, Bobby Riley and Planning Board Members Bill Crowther
(Chair), Sam Jones (Vice -Chair), Kenneth Chavious, Wayne Tilley,
Ida Louise Evans, Margaret Moore, Leif Deetjen, Wendy Olson (alt.)
Members Commissioner Remus Smith, Planning Board Members Cheshire Cole,
Absent: Richard Simpson, Stephen Jones, Jim Culbreth (alt.)
Others Marvin Collins, Blake Dickinson, Wesley Hyatt, Susan Suggs, Janet
Present: Rigsbee, Joff Coe, Phillip Whitaker and approximately 80 citizens.
Mayor Johnson called the meeting to order at 7:21 PM and welcomed
those present. He read the Public Charge and turned the Chair
over to Crowther. Crowther welcomed those present and explained
the Public Hearing procedures by pointing out that comments should
only be addressed -to the Board members.
ITEM #1: The consideration to amend the Hillsborough Thoroughfare Plan by
deleting the Davis Road extenstion and improvements was presented
by Rigsbee. She explained the Town had adopted the map but not
the written report. She showed the area on the map and said the
Davis Road extension was a third priority with desired
construction in 15 years. She noted the plan was showing a 100'
right-of-way now and added Tree Farm Road was a fourth priority
(20 years).
Beverly .Webb asked about the relationship between the map and the
text. Rigsbee said the map had been looked at and adoped but the
text had not been adopted.
Phillip Wollworth asked about the 100' right-of-way and Rigsbee
said in the appendix NCDOT asked for 100' in the road cross
section.
Kirk Pelland said the text referred to a five lane section and
Rigsbee said there were no plans for a five lane road at this
time.
Linda Galloway questioned the need for the plan.
Rolland Wrenn asked why both the Major and Minor Thoroughfares
required a 100' right-of-way.
Roger Strong asked how Tree Farm Road fit in and where the traffic
would go. Rigsbee indicated the area on the map.
Richard Kinney said he was confused about how the Town of
Hillsborough would be planning a thoroughfare so far out of time.
Neil Galloway asked if a 100' would allow a five lane to be built
and Rigsbee said said that was possible eventually.
Tom Nicholson questioned the need for a 100' right-of-way.
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Mike Shannon asked if any financial projections had been completed
and Rigsbee said no.
Bill Wollford said he was confused about the Town planning for
something in the County and Rigsbee pointed out NCDOT did not
necessarily adhere to jurisdictional lines but looked at the
whole area.
There being no further questions of clarification, Crowther asked
for a show of hands of those opposed to the Davis Road extension
and almost all in attendance indicated they were against it.
Rigsbee was the only one wishing to speak in favor of the current
plan, speaking for Blake Norwood, NCDOT Thoroughfare Planner. She
summarized a telephone converstion she had with Norwood favoring
the retension of Davis Road on the Thoroughfare Plan (file).
Crowther then opened the floor for those who wished to speak
against the inclusion of Davis Road on the Thoroughfare Plan.
Caldwell Williams said he planned to build a house on Davis Road
and doesn't want to retire on a thoroughfare. He said we have
I-85 and I-40 as thoroughfares and could not see a need for the
road in the future, adding the area should be kept in a country
setting and traffic should be kept to minimum. He said he was for
the removal of Davis Road from the Thoroughfare Plan.
Rolland Wrenn said she wanted both the Major and Minor
Thoroughfare parts of Davis Road deleted from the plan. She said
she agreed with Caldwell Williams and is opposed to the entire
Davis Road section of the Plan.
Ann Nicholson said she was opposed to the Davis Road part of the
Plan and said it was hard to believe anyone would want to put a
five lane road through such beautiful country. She said she
didn't see any advantage in changing the road and pointed out that
numerous Davis Road residents would lose some of their property
and the tranquility of the neighborhood. She said she felt NCDOT
should have looked more at the Town and not waste time and money
by planning so far out in the country, adding she felt the 2
Interstates would be sufficient for thoroughfares and this would
allow the Davis Road area to retain its rural character.
Ted Latta said he had talked to a NCDOT representative who said
the plan was for 50 to 100 years from now. Latta said he felt
Ode Turner, Tree Farm and Davis Roads should be eliminated from
the Hillsborough Thoroughfare Plan.
Douglas Brown said he favored the elimination of Davis Road from
the Thoroughfare Plan, saying the new road would take much of his
front yard and garden spot.
Gail Terry read a letter from Barbara Davis that Davis opposed the
Davis Road part of the Plan. She said she had moved to Davis Road
for the tranquility of the area and that would be lost with the
construction of a five lane road. She also said she would lose a
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large portion of her front yard if it was built. Terry said she
was also opposed to Davis Road being included on the Plan and
urged the Boards to consider all of the alternatives.
Kirk Pelland said he was opposed to the inclusion of Davis Road on
the Plan. He said the residents were caught by NCDOT trying to
help Hillsborough but this had hurt the people on Davis Road. He
noted the text of the Plan said this was an idealized concept that
showed Davis Road as a cross-town facility to expand capacity but
pointed out the area was well out in the county and was also a
part of the Chapel Hill Rural Buffer. He asked if NCDOT knew this
and said the buffer would eliminate the need for a thoroughfare.
He said he felt the money should be put elsewhere and said he
liked the Hillsborough of the present and not NCDOT's concept of
the future.
Richard Kinney said he lived on Dimmocks Mill Road and said NCDOT
should consider the constraints presented by the Ben Johnston and
Rocky Creek watersheds in addition to re-evaluating their position
of three years ago. He said he applauded the Public Hearing
attendance and comments but said he felt the Boards should look at
the watershed and pollution issues as they affect the Plan.
Betty Eidener said she was Chair of the Orange County Planning
Board and said the Transportation Advisory Subcommittee had
unanimously expressed their disapproval of the Hillsborough
Thoroughfare Plan and recommended to the Orange County Planning
Board that they oppose it, especially the Davis Road area. She
said any decision should wait until the Orange County
Commissioners had a chance to review it.
Marvin Collins, Orange County Planning Director, said over the
last year his department had been working on areas not covered by
an urban thoroughfare plan. He said one need was for north -south
movement and a loop type system. He said Orange County hasn't
really taken a position yet but wants to sit down with the Town
Board and talk about it before a decision is made. Collins added
one alternative was for NCDOT to designate Davis Road as a scenic
route and noted all Boards currently oppose the Plan until further
discussion.
Ken Faucette said he was a fourth generation Davis Road resident
and said the people there took pride in the road and the land.
He said he wanted to go on record as being opposed to the Davis
Road part of the Plan. He said putting a five lane road there
would be the same as driving a bulldozer down the middle of
Hillsborough.
Cathie Falconer said she opposed inclusion of Davis Road on the
Plan and commended the people of Davis Road for their attendance
at the meeting.
Leigh Mahar said she wished to speak on another issue but also
commended the Davis Road residents.
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Neil Galloway said he lived on Crossroads Church Cemetery Road and
was concerned about the lack of notice given to the residents. He
said there was a problem with overloaded trucks and that DMV
Enforcement often had to ticket trucks in the area. He said the
area stood to lose a great deal and there was a need to preserve
the road and neighborhood and not to destroy it.
John Hartwell said he had been involved in the issue in several
respects both as a Orange County Commissioner and a property
owner. He said he sat on the Hillsborough Thoroughfare Plan
Committee and owned property at the end of Tree Farm Road but was
not here to defend any personal interest although he felt they
could be damaged. He said the primary objection is specifically
against the five lane option and not to improvement of the roads
in principle which would increase safety. He said some other
places will require improvements also but not necessarily five
lane roads and he could perceive in 20 years how improvements
would be necessary.
Hartwell noted he had said to the State in 1987 they needed to
to specify what type of road could be put there. He said if NCDOT
is asking for a 100' right-of-way the Town Board should oppose it
but if NCDOT goes for a 60' right-of-way he felt the opposition
would subside. He pointed out traffic from NC86 to the west
was currently restricted and there was a need for improvement,
saying the resolution of that problem lay at the I-40 and I-85
Interchange which needed to be a full movement interchange road.
He said NCDOT had ignored it and the project still had not been
started. Hartwell added he felt truck traffic should stay on the
Interstates.
Kaye Crawford said she was the pastor of the Hillsborough United
Church of Christ and they had acquired property in the area for a
new facility. He said although she felt the road would eventually
have to be widened for safety purposes, the expansion to a five
lane road would not be necessary.
Robbie Wright said he lived on Ode Turner Road and was opposed to
the inclusion of Davis Road on the Thoroughfare Plan.
Rodney Davis said he agreed with Wright and the people in the
Davis Road area put a lot of work into maintaining their property
to make it look nice. He said expansion of Davis Road would be
just like NCDOT going through the Historic District.
Linda Galloway said she lived on Crossroads Cemetery Church Road
and she likes the area the way it is and felt it should not
change. She said it was a beautiful area and she liked her little
dirt road and wanted to go on record as opposing the inclusion of
Davis Road on the Thoroughfare Plan.
Paul Olmsby said he was thinking about moving to the Davis Road
area. He said although a loop might be needed, the ratio was
wrong and the proposed loop was too close to Hillsborough.
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Bunny Davis said she had been a resident of Davis Road for 43
years and she would lose her front yard if a five lane road came
through. She said she felt she wouldn't have anything left and
wanted the area to stay like it is.
Gerald Scarlett said he lives near Davis Road and Old 86 and said
his family had lost 3 acres and the family cemetery to I-40. He
said the residents of the area have given over enought land to
NCDOT and asked the Boards to please not do it again.
Rich Bowdry said the Davis Road area was beautiful and you could
hear whispering pines instead of traffic. He said he liked the
quietness of the area and felt the Thoroughfare Plan would destroy
it.
Glenora Rose said the plan would also put more traffic on Orange
Grove and Dimmocks Mill Road. She said wildlife fatalities would
increase and their habitat would be destroyed.
Tim Nicholson said he hoped the Town Board would consider the
future and the people of the Davis Road who wanted the the area to
remain the same. He said he felt adequate notifications had not
been made and he could not see the need to expand the road.
ITEM #2: Susan Suggs said she was a planner from the NC Division of
Community Assistance and had been working with the Vision 2010
Committee. She said the Committee was fortunate to have members
with a lot of expertise and pointed out the Public Input Sessions
had been completed and the Committee was beginning to work on a
draft of the Comprehensive Plan. Suggs reviewed the results of
the Input Sessions and questionnaires noting the areas of repeated
interest were, in order; water supply, image of the Town,
controlling growth and achieveing a low growth rate, and parks and
recreation. She said there was support for maintaing the Historic
Distric and downtown area as well as support for better
landscaping and clean-up of unattractive parts of town.
Don Collins said he was not familiar with the Vision 2010
Committee and Suggs explained it had been formed to develop a long
range comprehensive plan for the Town. Bob Rose said the idea was
to formalize an orderly growth plan for the town and invited
everyone to attend the next meeting on November 13, 1990. Rose
added the plan would be a map for the future and he encouraged
citizen participation in the project.
Rich Bowdry said it sounded like people are interested in the
small town character of the area and a no -growth attitude would
seem to be in conflict with the Thoroughfare Plan as it applied
to the Davis Road area.
Leigh Mahar said she had sent a letter concerning multi -family
housing to the News of Orange and she hoped to Boards would
reconsider locating all multi -family housing in one part of town.
She said there were many bad things happening in Hillsborough and
the Woods of Oakdale development was one of them.
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Don Collins said he was not a resident of Hillsborough but had
grown up in the area. He said at a recent Orange County
Commissioners meeting they were gloating about their
cash reserves. He said he felt they could use some of these
reserves to make provision for water and sewer services that
would furnish jobs for area residents.
ITEM #3: The rezoning requested by the Planning Board to rezone
approximately 25 acres at the northeast and northwest corners of
Elizabeth Brady Road and Hwy 70A from OI (Office Institutional)
to GI (General Industrial) was presented by Rigsbee.
Betty Eidener said she was concerned with the impact of a sewer
line on Cates Creek.
Mayor Johnson said the property owners had allowed the Town to
put in lines through an easement on the property and this would
eliminate the need for two pump stations. He added it would save
the Town $20,000 to be able to put the line along the creek
instead of burying it along Elizabeth Brady Road and said he felt
the project would not adversely affect the Cates Creek area.
ITEM #4: The Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment to amend pages 100 and 101 to
provide for written tree and shrub planting details and guidelines
was presented by Rigsbee.
There was no public comment.
ITEM #5: The Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment to amend the definition of
setback to allow gutters and eaves to project into the setback 24
inches or less was presented by Rigsbee. She noted many houses
were currently already in the setback making improvements
difficult for some property owners.
Michael Vaughn said he favored the change pointing out if gutter
and eave improvements were not allowed water could cause
considerable damage. He said he wanted to improve his residence
but currently could not get a permit to protect his property.
Vaughn noted county tax assessors don't measure the eaves and
asked if this was not passed what would people do to protect their
homes.
There being no further public comments, Crowther turned the Chair
over to Mayor Johnson who adjourned the meeting at 9:01 PM.
Joff Coe, Secretary