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HomeMy Public PortalAbout06-10-2021 HPC Minutes Meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Record of Minutes Date: June 10, 2021 Location: Village Hall CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, PLEDGE Chairman Bortel called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Roll call was taken: Commissioners Derrick, Hagen, Hendricksen, Lucas, Rapp, Schmidt, and Chairman Bortel were present. Commissioners Barvian, and Olsen were absent. Also, in attendance: Jessica Gal, Associate Planner Chairman Bortel led the pledge to the flag. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Derrick made a motion to approve the agenda. Seconded by Commissioner Hendricksen. Voice Vote. All in favor. 0 opposed. Motion carried 7-0. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Derrick made a motion approve the to the Historic Preservation Commission minutes dated May 13, 2021 as amended. Seconded by Commissioner Rapp. Voice Vote. All in favor. 0 opposed. Motion carried 7-0. CHAIR’S COMMENTS Chairman Bortel commented that it has been roughly fourteen (14) months since their last in-person meeting. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS No Commissioners Comments. PUBLIC COMMENT No Public Comments received via email. OLD BUSINESS No Old Business. NEW BUSINESS 1917-031221.HPC 24126 W. CHICAGO ST. JAMES & JANET ANDERSON Commissioner Derrick made a motion to open the public hearing for case number 1917-031221.HPC. Second by Commissioner Lucas. Roll Call: Hagen, yes; Hendericksen, yes; Lucas, yes; Rapp, yes; Schmidt, ; yes; Derrick, yes; and Bortel, yes. Motion carried 7-0. Ms. Gal stated the applicants are requesting landmark designation for their residence located at 24126 W. Chicago Street, north of Village Green Park in Downtown Plainfield. The Greek Revival home was originally constructed circa 1845 and incorporates later historic alterations. The Village’s 2006 survey of the urban core recommends the subject structure for local landmark status as well as being a contributing structure to a historic district. Pursuant to the Village’s Historic Preservation ordinance, due notice was published, and adjacent property owners were given written notice. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes June 10, 2021 Page 2 of 5 Ms. Gal reviewed the staff report dated June 10, 2021. Mr. Gal concluded the subject residence is significant as being one of the early buildings constructed in the Village and the first one built in Block 3. It also contributes to the collection of historic homes located around the Village Green (recommended for nomination as a local historic district). The Drew and Sennitt families also significantly contributed to the history of the Village of Plainfield. This residence served as the home for many members of the family over 121 years and is worthy of preservation and recognition as a historic landmark. Commissioner Hagen indicated that this house has everything the commission looks for in a landmark. Commissioner Hendricksen stated that there have been modifications over the years, and they were done well. Chairman Bortel stated he was given a tour of the property’s basement and the additions are visible in the basement. Chairman Bortel explained the modifications that have been done to the house. Commissioner Derrick asked for clarification on where the original front door was located before additions were added. Chairman Bortel explained what he has found to the original location of the front door and what they discovered when touring the basement. Commissioner Derrick asked if they were able to see the first floor to find out where the stairs are. Chairman Bortel stated no. Commissioner Derrick suggested that the HPC should confirm because it could change the architectural form. Commissioner Derrick indicated she would like to confirm the evolution of the house because it could change it from an upright and wing to a center hall. Commissioner Hendricksen agreed and feels it would be easy to determine with seeing the location of the stairs. Chairman Bortel asked Commissioner Schmidt to confirm that the stairs from the east addition into the original house is a step up. Commissioner Schmidt confirmed. Chairman Bortel stated the sidewalk is a wood plank. Commissioner Derrick also suggested reviewing the dates regarding the Drew Family’s history in the report that are a little confusing. Commissioner Derrick indicated this is a great example of evolution of style and this a lovely application. Commissioner Hendericksen suggested we continue our effort to improve the application. Chairman Bortel swore in Michael Lambert. Mr. Lambert stated (inaudible because the mic was not on)…indicated he felt this should be classified as a “Gabled L” and not an upright and wing. Chairman Bortel stated that the property owner has indicated that the front entrance that was on the Fox River side of the house. Commissioner Hendericksen stated that if they were able to look at the floor joists it could be easily determined. Mr. Lambert stated that this does not seem to line up with the evolution of architecture because most homes along the Village Green have front doors facing the Village Green. Chairman Bortel indicated that this would have been the second house built in the area. Commissioner Schmidt asked Mr. Lambert why would the basement only be under half of the original home since that is what he saw when he toured the basement. Mr. Lambert stated it is tough to say without seeing the basement, but basements were not desirable when this house was constructed and if there was a basement it was for food storage. Commissioner Schmidt made a motion to close the public hearing for case number 1917-031221.HPC. Second by Commissioner Hendricksen. Roll Call: Hagen, yes; Hendericksen, yes; Lucas, yes; Rapp, yes; Schmidt, ; yes; Derrick, yes; and Bortel, yes. Motion carried 7-0. Commissioner Derrick asked if the owner would allow for another tour of the inside of the home. Chairman Bortel indicated that the owner would be the only person with full access to the basement and he will contact the owner to see if they could see the basement. Commissioner Derrick suggested looking Historic Preservation Commission Minutes June 10, 2021 Page 3 of 5 at the attic, basement, and first floor to be able determine the architectural form. Commissioner Hendericksen agreed. The commission discussed if they would like to continue the case or take a vote. It was determined that they would be continuing the case. Commissioner Derrick made a motion to continue case number 1917-031221.HPC to the July 8, 2021 Historic Preservation Commission meeting. Second by Commissioner Hagen. Roll Call: Hagen, yes; Hendericksen, yes; Lucas, yes; Rapp, yes; Schmidt, ; yes; Derrick, yes; and Bortel, yes. Motion carried 7-0. CONCEPT PLAN 24035-24037 W. LOCKPORT ST CHRISTINA KOLLINTZAS- PAVLIS Ms. Gal stated the applicant are respectfully seeking input from the Historic Preservation Commission regarding proposed improvements to the front façade of the business that occupies 24035 and 24037 W. Lockport St. (Uptown Tap). The current owners are proposing to update the front façade to achieve various objectives, including unifying the two storefronts, update some of the dated materials, and bring together the interior and exterior enhancements and menu improvements to complete the reimaging of the restaurant. Ms. Gal added as buildings located in the Downtown Historic District (both local district and National Register-recognized) – both of which buildings are contributing to the historic district, although not recommended for landmark status – exterior modifications will require consideration of a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA). The applicant and staff are sharing the proposed plans for feedback and direction from the HPC prior to formalizing plans for a future COA application. Ms. Gal concluded staff forwarded the conceptual plans to the Illinois State Historic Preservation Office for additional input. Staff will be prepared to share input received from IHPA at the upcoming meeting. Chairman Bortel asked if staff met with the applicant prior to this meeting. Ms. Gal confirmed. Chairman Bortel asked staff to summarize the discussion at their meeting with the applicant. Ms. Gal stated the applicant and staff discussed the applicant’s vision and goal, as well as how to unify the buildings and building materials. Chairman Bortel explained the history of ownership for the properties. Chairman Bortel stated this is the only building downtown that has gold-colored brick, and the bricks are probably over 100 years old and explained why he would not recommend painting the gold-colored brick. Commissioner Hendericksen stated that the building is in a historic district and this building does have some mid-century modern elements. Commissioner Hendericksen asked the applicant if they will be applying for any grants. Ms. Christina Kollintzas-Pavlis stated that the Village has a TIF fund. Chairman Bortel explained that the property is in a National Registry District and there could possible be grants available to her through the State and there is a façade grant that the Village has as well. The commission explained the grants that she could apply for through the State. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis stated their proposed changes are unifying the building by painting the brick, changing the awnings, changing the cladding, signage, and covering the cast-iron columns. Chairman Bortel explained that the HPC does not have purview over the sign and regarding painting of the brick it is not consist with the Secretary of Interior Standards and it can damage the brick but suggested creating a sign to be placed over the brick instead of painting it. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes June 10, 2021 Page 4 of 5 Commissioner Derrick explained that the email review by Illinois State Historic Preservation Office (see attached). Commissioner Derrick suggested using the email from Illinois State Historic Preservation Office to determine what should be retained and what elements could be changed, then using that information to create a façade change. Commissioner Derrick advised that once a property in a district there are standards for treatment of historic properties and Illinois State Historic Preservation Office email will be a great tool determine if something should be kept or can be changed. Commissioner Hendericksen suggesteed the applicant uses Illinois State Historic Preservation Office email to revise their plans. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis indicated that their biggest struggle is unifying the building without painting the brick or changing the cladding. Commissioner Hagen asked if they have considered having only one entrance. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis indicated the Fire Department requires the two entrances. Commissioner Hendricksen stated that the buildings does not need awnings since it faces north. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis stated the awning would help differentiate them from Moe Joe’s and unify the buildings. Commissioner Derrick stated the State email indicated that an awning is compatible with the guidelines, cladding in a modern material is not compatible, and painting the brick is not great, so the goal is to keep the limestone facing because it is a historic material. Commissioner Hendericksen stated he believes the HPC job is to keep the downtown historic and they would be more then happy to provide guidance. Ms. Kollintzas- Pavlis still is unclear on how the unify the buildings. Chairman Bortel suggested bringing it back to what it was before the changes were made. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis stated that would be very costly. Commissioner Hendericksen suggested the applicant review the email from the Illinois State Historic Preservation Office and to come back with a new plan with what was suggested. Commissioner Schmidt asked if they have any other options drawn. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis stated no and that she was looking for feedback on what types of materials can be used and asked if the commission would approve eco- cladding. Commissioner Schmidt indicated he likes the cladding and feels that with the cladding the top would not have to be changed, he also suggested doing new awnings. Commissioner Derrick stated the email from the State advises composite material that when painted look like wood, so the materials are compatible with historically appropriately materials. Commissioner Derrick indicated typically the commission does not encourage modern materials on the front of the building. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis asked if the proposed awning would be acceptable. Chairman Bortel indicated the materials are too modern. Commissioner Schmidt asked if the awning is so high because something is being hidden. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis stated that the old sign is there and diagonal wood cladding. Commissioner Schmidt asked what is under the wood cladding. Mr. Michael Lambert stated under the wood cladding is vitrolite store front and it is only vitrolite store front in the Village. Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis asked if it across both store fronts. Mr. Lambert indicated it is only on the Package Liquors building. Chairman Bortel stated the applicant to work with Illinois State Historic Preservation Office and he will put her in contact with other business downtown that have taken advantage of the State tax credit. Commissioner Derrick asked if there are photos of the building with vitrolite. Mr. Lambert (inaudible). Ms. Kollintzas-Pavlis asked if the vitrolite maybe damage and if there is any way to determine that without removing the wood cladding. Mr. Lambert (inaudible). Chairman Bortel also suggested the applicant to speak with Mr. Lambert if she has any questions. DISCUSSION No Discussion. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes June 10, 2021 Page 5 of 5 ADJOURN Commissioner Derrick made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Barvian seconded the motion. Voice vote. All in favor; 0 opposed. Motion carried 7-0. Meeting adjourned at 8:21 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Tracey Erickson Recording Secretary 1 Jessica Gal From:Rubano, Anthony <Anthony.Rubano@Illinois.gov> Sent:Tuesday, June 01, 2021 3:25 PM To:Jessica Gal Cc:MICHAEL BORTEL; SUZANNE DERRICK; DAVE SCHMIDT Subject:RE: Uptown Tap - Historic Views Hi Jessica, The angled, Lannon-stone (limestone) storefront and door date from the mid-1950s, within the district’s period of significance and should be retained. Storefronts that date from within a district’s period of significance are historic and should be retained. It does not meet the Standards to remove a significant element, like a historic storefront, and build a conjectural version of a past iteration, even if you have historic photos of the original condition. However, I would need more information about 24035 in order to understand its integrity, which is different from whether it’s historic. The 2005 survey photo and the 2008 Google streetview image show non-historic, diagonal-wood siding covering the end walls and the front elevation above the recessed storefront and below the cast iron lintel (an area now covered by an awning). Do we know what’s under the siding? Is there an image of what this looked like in the 1960s? I would guess that the Lannon stone stops at the top of the display window and that there was a large sign in the flat space that is now siding. I would need to know how much of the 1950s storefront exists behind the diagonal siding. As for the proposed design, if I were reviewing this for a tax credit, I would say it does not meet the Standards for several reasons. This would all be very easy to fix and would result in a project that could achieve the credits. The sign, while large, is one that I wouldn’t deny, but I can’t speak for the National Park Service or for your local sign ordinance. If the owner wants to visually unify these two buildings, painting their cornices and other paintable surfaces the same colors and using identical paired awnings would do it. 24035. The unpainted brick, cornice, cast-iron lintel, and angled storefront, recessed lights, and door are historic and should be retained. 1. The historic unpainted brick should not be painted. 2. The proposed standing-seam, metal awning is not appropriate to this historic district. Though these buildings face north and don’t need an awning for sun shading, a compatible, fabric awning can be installed above each storefront. It should be installed at the level of the cast iron lintel. It can be open at the sides or have triangular returns. 3. The display window appears to have been replaced somewhat recently, as it is bronze anodized aluminum. If the window were to be replaced, it should be replaced with a clear-anodized aluminum display window in the same size as the historic. 4. Aluminum front door is historic and should not be changed. The proposed recessed panel door is appropriate for the 1920s but not the 1950s. 5. The proposed Techwood is not a compatible material for a historic commercial district. Its slatted design is not appropriate, so adding it to the storefront doesn’t meet the Standards. 24037. The unpainted brick, cornice, and cast iron are historic and should be retained. Everything else (display windows, transom panels, bulkheads, door and surrounds) are not historic and can be replaced. If they are replaced, they should be replaced compatibly. 1. The historic unpainted brick should not be painted. 2. The proposed standing-seam-metal canopy on brackets is not appropriate to this historic district. Though these buildings face north and don’t need an awning for sun shading, a compatible, fabric awning can be installed 2 above each storefront. It should be installed at the level of the cast iron lintel. It can be open at the sides or have triangular returns. 3. The proposed Techwood is not a compatible material for a historic commercial district. Its slatted design is not appropriate. 4. New bulkheads should be at their historic height and should have an appearance that is compatible with their original historic appearance. Wood bulkheads of this era were recessed panel, stile-and-rail constructions. New bulkheads New bulkheads do not have to replicate what’s in the historic photo, but we would approve them if they did. We would accept a composite material that, when painted, looks like painted wood. 5. New transoms and display windows should be of the size and proportion shown as those shown in the historic photograph. They can be of insulated glass and must have frames that have a paint-like (non-anodized) finish. 6. There should be a door between the two center cast-iron columns. It does not need to function, but it should look like a historically appropriate door or pair of doors (such as what is depicted in the historic photo). Anthony Rubano, Deputy State Historic Preservation Officer Illinois State Historic Preservation Office Illinois Department of Natural Resources One Old State Capitol Plaza Springfield, Illinois 62701 Please contact me through email rather than my office phone: anthony.rubano@illinois.gov From: Jessica Gal <jgal@goplainfield.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:49 PM To: Rubano, Anthony <Anthony.Rubano@Illinois.gov> Cc: MICHAEL BORTEL net>; SUZANNE DERRICK ; DAVE SCHMIDT Subject: [External] RE: Uptown Tap - Historic Views Hi Anthony, Thanks for the quick reply. At this point, we would be looking for any feedback to better guide the property owner. Following our meeting, I can connect them with you to discuss the historic tax credit that would apply. The Village also has a Façade Grant Program. Thanks, Jessica Gal, AICP Associate Planner Planning Department (815) 230-2034 (Office Direct) jgal@goplainfield.com