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MEDINA CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 1 2008
The City Council of Medina, Minnesota met in regular session on June 3, 2008 at 7:00
p.m. in the City Hall Chambers. Mayor Crosby presided.
I. ROLL CALL
Members present: Crosby, Cavanaugh, Smith (arrived at 7:05 p.m.), Weir, and
Johnson.
Members absent: None
Also present: City Attorney Ron Batty, City Engineer Tom Kellogg, Police Chief Ed
Belland, Planning Director Tim Benetti, City Administrator Chad Adams and Recording
Secretary Kim Stoll.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
The agenda was accepted as presented.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Approval of the Mav 20, 2008 Special City Council Meeting Minutes
It was noted on page 1, the second paragraph, it should state: "Members present:
Weir, Crosby, Smith, Cavanaugh."
It was noted on page 1, the third paragraph, it should state: "Members absent:
Johnson, Cavanaugh"
It was noted on page 1, the eighth paragraph, it should state: "The Council...Speak the
Word Church of and Erickson..."
Moved by Weir, seconded by Cavanaugh, to approve the May 20, 2008 special City
Council meeting minutes as amended. Motion passed unanimously.
Smith arrived.
B. Approval of the Mav 20, 2008 Regular Citv Council Meeting Minutes
It was noted on page 3, the fifth paragraph, it should state: "Smith inquired if most of
the area under the compost was dirt recently regraded to shape the park. Scherer
stated that it was."
It was noted on page 3, the fourteenth paragraph, it should state: "Cavanaugh stated
that it is against the typical policy that-has-been-felleweel for the costs associated with
the vacation to be borne by the City and it is unfair to other residents to go against this
policy and have the costs paid for by the general fund."
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It was noted on page 3, the sixteenth paragraph, it should state: "Johnson stated that
there is a potential benefit of increased property values and if that is the case, then
benefiting property owners should take the vacation."
It was noted on page 8, the second paragraph, it should state: "Johnson stated this is a
good first step, the ordinance can be adjusted, if necessary, but it would be good to see
how it goes."
It was noted on page 11, the twelfth paragraph, it should state: "Smith stated that the
County will build it to the current engineering standards for safety."
It was noted on page 11, the seventeenth paragraph, it should state: "The Council...a
signal at CR 116/Clydesdale;..."
It was noted on page 13, the second paragraph, it should state: "Johnson inquired...the
process of completing an actuarial study."
It was noted on page 13, the fourth paragraph, it should state: "Day stated she would
need to check into the details and report back to the Council."
It was noted on page 15, the thirteenth paragraph, it should state: "Adams
stated...billable acre to include exclude..."
It was noted on page 17, the seventh paragraph, it should state: "Crosby stated the
smallest trash cart rates aren't very expensive."
It was noted on page 17, the twelfth paragraph, it should state: "Weir stated there is a
lot of interest in being shown in properties..."
It was noted on page 18, the fourth paragraph, it should state: "Crosby stated the
summer event at his house will probably be on a weeknight." (end paragraph)
It was noted on page 18, the fifth paragraph, it should state: "Crosby stated there was a
new election for the Fire Chief..."
Moved by Johnson, seconded by Smith, to approve the May 20, 2008 regular City
Council meeting minutes as amended. Motion passed unanimously.
V. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approve Special Events Permit to Inn Kahoots for July 10 —13, 2008
B. Approve July 1, 2008 — June 30, 2009 Liquor Licenses
C. Approve Ball Field Use Agreement with Hamel Lions for September 12 —14,
2008
D. Approve Grant Agreement with Minnehaha Creek Watershed District
E. Resolution Authorizing Execution of a Joint Cooperation Agreement
Between the City of Medina and Hennepin County for CDBG Program
Funds in FY 2009 to 2011
F. Resolution Supporting Application for Community Growth Options Grant
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G. Resolution Granting an Amended Conditional Use Permit, Site Plan and
Variance Approval for RGA Properties, LLC, Located at 4535 Willow Drive
H. Resolution Granting Preliminary and Final Plat for RGA Properties, LLC,
Located at 4535 Willow Drive
Moved by Smith, seconded by Weir, to approve the consent agenda. Motion passed
unanimously.
VI. PRESENTATION
A. Resolution Recognizing David Hall for Five Years of Service to the City of
Medina Police Department
Belland stated that Dave Hall has been with the Police Department for five years and
explained the roles he has played within the department, including the patrol division,
field training officer, and detective. He thanked Hall for his work for the City of Medina.
Crosby read the resolution recognizing Hall for his service to the community.
Moved by Johnson, seconded by Weir, to approve the resolution recognizing David Hall
for Five Years of Service to the City of Medina Police Department. Motion passed
unanimously.
B. Affordable Housing Policy- Administration Intern Kim Ann
Ann stated the perception of affordable housing includes low-income level dwellings,
crime, drug problems, social meltdown, and public housing. She demonstrated pictures
of some affordable housing units. She stated high -density development preserves land.
She stated professionals, the service -oriented workforce, retired older citizens, and
single parent families are people who need affordable housing. She stated affordable
housing creates stability in the community. She stated the definition of affordable
housing is the area median income of 50% to 80%. She stated that there is a need for
rental and ownership of affordable housing.
Crosby inquired about the accuracy of the calculation that states 2% of the houses are
worth $1 million or more. Ann stated that the data was from the comprehensive plan.
Adams stated that the data reflect the building permits that were received in 2007.
Crosby clarified that the average 2007 residential building permit not including the value
of the land is $1 million.
Cavanaugh inquired if the data includes affordable housing for rental properties. Ann
stated that she didn't have the data for the rental properties.
Cavanaugh stated that the non -homestead classification may provide information about
the number of rental properties.
Smith inquired if the tax value would be the same regardless if it is a rental property or
not. Cavanaugh stated that it wouldn't, because affordability depends on the rent, not
the value of the home.
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Ann stated that the housing data is based on home ownership. She stated that there
are 87 units total in the Gramercy project and 12 of those are affordable housing units.
Cavanaugh inquired if the cost was based on the current tax values. He inquired if the
affordability included the current numbers for the affordability factor. Ann stated that
there are 8 units that are single family homes, not multi -tenant homes in Medina. She
stated that the current tax value has increased and Gramercy is waiting for approval to
increase it.
Smith stated that the City has an agreement with Gramercy to maintain a certain
number of units and the units can't be sold for more than the affordable price.
Johnson inquired if the number of units is based on a percentage. Smith stated that it is
not, but it is a definite number.
Batty stated that he thought the number of units is 10 units. He stated that there is a
formula used for increasing the value of the units.
Ann stated that there are 10 units that are required for Gramercy, but they have 12
units.
Fred Webber stated that the cost of the units is set by the Met Council.
Cavanaugh inquired if there are other affordable housing properties being sold for less
than the fair market value. Fred Webber stated that there weren't.
Ann stated that there is one affordable housing unit available at Gramercy. She stated
that Medina's needs include broadening the volunteer population, supporting family
structure, supporting economic and social vitality, and preserving the rural community.
She stated the people who qualify for affordable housing will provide resources for the
community. She stated the Met Council, DEED, private agencies, and Community Land
Trust are all resources for the City. She stated the mechanisms that the City could
utilize for planning for affordable housing include density bonuses, unit size reduction,
design guidelines, waived or reduced fees, and fast -track permitting. She demonstrated
affordable housing projects.
Crosby stated that some of the units must be highly government subsidized.
Smith stated the pictures illustrate that the housing can be visually appealing.
Ann stated affordable housing brings sound future economics, broadens the tax base,
and broadens the options for the community.
Crosby stated he thinks the myths about affordable housing are being dispelled. He
inquired about Ann's opinion about actions the City can do now to have more affordable
housing.
Ann stated that the comprehensive plan could use stronger language and the City could
begin utilizing land grants.
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Adams stated that having a program in place would be beneficial prior to opening it to
developers.
Smith stated she has received numerous emails about high density housing and the
type of people that live in high density housing. She said the stereotypes still exist and
there is a lot of education that needs to be done regarding the type of people who need
affordable housing.
Weir inquired if incentives would be a good way to invite affordability. Ann stated the
incentives for developers would allow for the integration.
Crosby stated the financing is where developers can get credit.
Weir inquired about how this would work with the timing of writing the Uptown Hamel
ordinance. Adams stated the Planning Commission could begin to discuss the policy of
affordable housing.
Smith stated the mixed use along TH 55 may be a good place for some of the affordable
housing because of the location of jobs.
Johnson stated that when affordable housing units become too dense, there tends to be
more problems.
Smith stated she wasn't referring to Section 8 housing.
Ann stated that Section 8 housing is in the 25-50% average medium income group. She
stated that most of the pictures shown were the 50-80% average medium income group.
Smith stated that without mass transit it makes it difficult for the very low income
population to get to work.
Crosby stated he would like specific examples of affordable housing from a similar
community.
Ann suggested Minnetonka and Chaska.
Cavanaugh stated that Minnetonka is significantly larger and Chaska has large
townhome areas. He stated looking at a more rural community would be better.
Smith stated that not considering Section 8 housing would eliminate a number of
problems resulting from high density.
Cavanaugh stated that in his experience he has seen similar issues as Johnson.
Smith stated the comprehensive plan states that there shouldn't be large areas of
affordable housing, but it should be dispersed throughout a development.
Johnson stated that it works for the developers to have the affordable units mixed in with
the other units, because a higher price can be achieved from the other units within the
project.
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Weir stated she agrees with 10% affordable units within a project.
The Council directed staff to provide examples of other city affordable housing policies
when the policy discussion is brought back to Council.
VII. COMMENTS
A. Comments from Citizens on Items not on the Agenda
Eleanor Degmen, 100 Clydesdale Trail, stated there is an issue with motorcycles
retying their engines while waiting at a nearby stoplight.
Belland stated there isn't a noise ordinance, but it has been addressed in the past under
the nuisance ordinance or the popping of engines law. He stated they have previously
discussed the issue with the motorcycle shop, but that has since moved. He suggested
that the residents call the police as it is happening.
Degmen stated that it typically happens during the evenings on the weekends.
Crosby inquired how cities regulate using jake brakes for large trucks. Batty stated that
he isn't sure how the cities regulate those.
Council directed the Police Chief to report back on our ability to enforce jake brake noise
within our ordinance or to learn of how other cities enforce the noise issue.
B. Park Commission
Beth Neilson stated there is a new Park Commission member, Peter Leyse. She stated
at the previous meeting they discussed the trail study and the fountain at Hamel Legion
Park.
Cavanaugh inquired if bubbling boulder fountains show staining over time. Ann stated
that they do.
Smith stated that the boulders could be cleaned.
Neilson stated they also discussed signage for the parks. She stated the Park
Commission would like to propose a logo contest that would be judged by various
people.
Crosby stated that he doesn't want the City to be obligated to use the winning design.
Smith stated that they need to move forward with the signage and logos.
Weir stated that she likes the community involvement of the contest.
Crosby stated that there needs to be a program developed for the contest.
C. Planning Commission
Jeff Pedersen stated they haven't met since the last Council meeting.
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Crosby stated the report from Benetti discusses the projects the Planning Commission
is working on.
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Bill and Dianne Nunn. 2825 Willow Drive- Conditional Use Permit to
Construct an Addition to an Existing Accessory Structure
Benetti stated the Nunn's operation is a non -conforming use, but have a current CUP
and operate under a commercial horse facility license. He stated the proposed addition
is not for commercial horse facility activities. He went over the current site description
and noted the location of the wetlands on the property. He stated the addition will be for
a carousel and work space. He said after the proposed addition, the hardcover area will
meet the hardcover requirements. He stated the applicant has requested to enclose the
overhang.
Crosby inquired about the intent of the overhang. Benetti stated the proposed overhang
was intended to provide some relief on the wall massing and was more of an
architectural element, however, Nunn's contractor suggested that it should be enclosed.
Crosby inquired if the overhang has any bearing on the hardcover calculation. Benetti
stated that it does not. He stated Staff has recommended additional landscaping on the
east side and the applicant has planted juniper trees on the east side.
Smith stated that the City typically requests a variety of plantings instead of one type of
tree.
Benetti stated he thinks the intent is to soften the view of the wall from Willow Drive.
Weir inquired if the rock face would be on the east side.
Bill Nunn, 2825 Willow Drive, stated that it wouldn't, but it would be on the addition.
Crosby inquired about the space to avoid horse cribbing. Nunn stated that there is
about 20 to 25 feet.
Smith inquired if there was a plan to absorb the runoff from the building.
Benetti stated the addition to the building does not meet the animal structure setbacks
and therefore it should not be used for animals. He stated the manure management
plan has been included in the conditions. He stated the Council could determine if a
cement slab would be appropriate for the manure management.
Smith stated that concrete has been required for other stables in the area.
Weir inquired about the U of M Extension Services opinion on the cement slab. Benetti
stated that they think it may not be necessary if the soil is dense.
Smith stated that the completion date of June 30, 2009 is too late. She stated that she
thinks the City has been negligent in correcting this on -going problem and the problem
should be addressed before winter.
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Crosby inquired about Smith's opinion for the manure containment area with the design
being determined by the U of M Extension Services. Smith stated that she thinks the
City should require the cement pad and the wall.
Johnson inquired if there is another stable in the City that has a permit for up to 50
horses.
Smith stated that it is an intense use and the owners have almost maxed out the
hardcover. She stated that the owners should be held to the same standards as others.
Cavanaugh inquired if the recommendations from the U of M Extension Service would
be different for different facilities. Smith stated that the other stables have had this
requirement and this stable should be held to the same standards.
Benetti stated that the City is trying to be consistent with the U of M Extension Service,
since they are the expert. He stated the timeline was established to allow for the
potential of participating in programs.
Smith stated that the runoff has occurred for too long, the manure hasn't been moved
off of the property as it should have been, and it is time for the problem to be resolved.
She stated that it isn't fair to the other people in the community who have been required
to comply with the manure management requirements.
Cavanaugh inquired if there is a way to require the maintenance of the manure
management and if it is not done, the City could contract out the work and then assess it
to the owners. Crosby stated that it is a condition of the CUP.
Weir stated that Staff could inspect to be sure that the manure management
requirement is being met.
Smith inquired if there could be an annual inspection. Crosby stated that he doesn't
think there needs to be an annual inspection.
Smith suggested that all of the large stables be inspected annually.
Crosby stated that it should be a City policy, not just part of this CUP.
Johnson inquired how the animal density units would apply. Crosby stated that it
wouldn't be affected because this is an old CUP.
Benetti stated that if the City applied the standard of one horse per grazable acre, the
Nunn's would probably be limited to 3 or 4 horses.
Weir stated that the animal density unit doesn't prevent a person from having extra
animals, but it does mean there needs to be a proper manure management plan.
Johnson stated the density of the horses is a source of damage to the surrounding land.
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Crosby stated the City isn't addressing the animal usage, but the issue is if the applicant
is meeting the requirements of the old CUP and the specifics of the non -animal addition
to the building for the new CUP. He stated that this isn't an opportunity to re -write the
existing CUP.
Weir stated that it is an opportunity to address the manure pollution problem.
Smith stated that if the CUP conditions aren't met, then the CUP needs to be pulled.
She thinks they should be able to look at previous CUPs when granting a new CUP.
Crosby stated that if the new CUP doesn't relate to the previous CUP, then it shouldn't
be altered. He stated that this particular application doesn't address animals. He
inquired about the manure management plan on the previous CUP. Smith stated that
the current CUP requires the manure to be removed once every 6 months.
Weir stated that she thinks the Nunn's have met the requirement of the previous CUP,
but it was inadequate for the intensity of the use.
Crosby read the existing condition for the manure management and stated that if it isn't
met, then the CUP should be pulled.
Benetti stated the condition was written a couple of years ago and Nunn wasn't able to
form an agreement with the MPCA at that time, due to their small size.
Crosby stated that the existing condition doesn't apply, so it is appropriate to have a
condition that does apply.
Benetti stated that historically there has been the removal of the conditions that don't
work.
Smith stated that it appears they are addressing the stormwater issue.
Weir inquired how the runoff will bypass the manure. Benetti demonstrated the location
of the manure and the flow of the runoff. He stated that it was suggested to build a dyke
and a small rain garden or infiltration site.
Smith inquired about the reason to not have a berm to prevent the water from entering
the rain garden. Benetti stated that the water needs a place to drain.
Weir stated that Nunn had said the manure is removed every two months. She said she
would like the conditions to state that it be removed every two months.
Benetti stated that Nunn has already planted some trees along the east side of the
building.
Smith stated the condition for the Medina Horse Owner's Association Rules should be
followed, not just posted.
Johnson stated he thinks the Planning Commission requested a drawing for the
addition. Benetti said the drawing that was provided was found acceptable by the
Planning Commission.
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Smith inquired about the condition for capturing the stormwater from the building.
Johnson stated that the Bhaysar's were required to provide extensive drawings for the
plans. He said these drawings don't meet the same standards as the City required from
the Bhaysar's.
Cavanaugh stated that he agrees with Johnson, and more detailed plans should be a
condition.
Smith stated the issue of the runoff from both of the buildings needs to be addressed.
Weir stated the intensity of use and the size of the manure pile is impressive. She
stated the Planning Commission expressed concern about removing the manure during
the spring. She stated that it would be healthier to remove the manure every two
months.
Cavanaugh stated the removal of the manure should be dealt with in the animal unit
ordinance so that it is consistent.
Crosby stated that removing it is one issue, but spreading can not be done during
winter.
Weir stated that it could be composted.
Crosby inquired if the Council would like to set their own standards or accept the
standards of the U of M Extension Service concerning the date for the manure
containment, as well as the drainage of runoff.
Smith stated that they should be consistent when dealing with the runoff.
Crosby stated that he thinks the City should address the runoff from the addition, but it
would be unfair to address it for the previous buildings.
Weir stated when she visited the site there were visible issues with the drainage.
Johnson stated the location of the berm impacts the cleanliness of the runoff.
Crosby inquired if the runoff from all of the buildings can be addressed if the applicant is
only modifying one building. Cavanaugh stated that he thinks if they are adjusting the
CUP they can address all the conditions.
Crosby inquired if the site drainage would be addressed in this CUP.
The Council concurred that it should be addressed.
Cavanaugh inquired if they would like to limit the site drainage to the roof runoff through
the manure. Benetti demonstrated the path of the drainage.
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Weir stated that the U of M Extension Service recommended the water drain away from
the manure piles.
Smith inquired if the pond is large enough to handle the runoff from the proposed
addition. Weir stated that the pond would probably expand.
Cavanaugh inquired if they are only concerned about the roof runoff.
Nunn explained the way the runoff of the water is occurring.
Crosby inquired about where the pond drains. Nunn stated it eventually runs into the
pasture.
Weir inquired about the roof runoff of the big barn. Nunn stated that it flows to the berm
and is diverted around the manure.
Smith stated there was a recent applicant who put in a rain garden to filter the water
before going to the wetland.
Nunn stated that the U of M Extension Service has suggested a rain garden.
Smith stated that they aren't the experts for rain gardens or runoff.
Crosby inquired if the Council would like the roof runoff from the large building to be a
part of the CUP.
Johnson stated that site drainage is an identified issue and it should be addressed.
Weir stated that it should include existing buildings.
Crosby stated he thinks site drainage should include buildings, runoff, and manure
storage.
Cavanaugh inquired if it was for all of the buildings on the property or the building with
the proposed addition. Johnson stated it was for all buildings. He said if the berm
shields the water from the manure, the majority of the problem may be resolved.
Smith stated the wetland needs to be protected.
Cavanaugh stated he thinks a rain garden would be a way to capture the runoff. He
stated that he would like it to be the building with the proposed addition.
Weir stated the site drainage problems need to be addressed.
The Council reached consensus to address the site drainage problems for all of the
existing buildings.
Crosby stated that he is thinks it should only address the building being worked on. He
inquired about the Council's opinion on the cement slab.
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Johnson stated he thinks the U of M Extension Service isn't addressing the drainage
problems, but is only addressing the manure.
Nunn stated that the U of M Extension Services is extremely concerned about the
runoff. He stated there has been a funding designated for a survey to be completed to
determine the size of the rain garden.
Johnson stated there is grant money available for the Lake Independence Watershed
District for manure management pens made of concrete, but the U of M Extension
Service doesn't think there needs to be a concrete pad. He stated he would like to seek
out Minnehaha Creek Watershed District's opinion on the runoff.
Smith inquired if the City could request approval from Minnehaha. Crosby stated that
wasn't a requirement for the Bhaysar's.
Johnson stated that he wants to have guidelines to follow instead of having an arbitrary
decision.
Crosby stated Staff should return to the Council with a recommendation about the
cement confinement area.
Cavanaugh clarified that they are asking Staff to request the opinion of the U of M
Extension Service and Minnehaha Creek Watershed.
Crosby inquired about the dates in the conditions. Smith stated she would like the dates
to be changed to October 31, 2008.
The Council concurred that the dates should be October 31, 2008.
Crosby inquired about following and posting the Medina Horse Owner's Association
Rules. Smith stated she thinks the rules should be followed and posted.
Crosby stated that he doesn't think they should be required to follow the Rules.
Adams inquired if it is known for sure what the Rules are. Benetti stated that the
condition about the Rules is from the previous CUP.
Nunn stated that it is unclear about what the Rules are for sure.
Crosby stated that Staff should find out what the Rules are.
Cavanaugh clarified that the maintenance of the manure should be addressed in the
conditions.
Weir stated she doesn't think it should be in the conditions, but it should be addressed
as a policy. She stated that she thinks the stables should be monitored annually.
Crosby stated that the Council isn't disagreeing with Cavanaugh, but the manure
management should be in a different policy.
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Batty stated that the maintenance doesn't need to be in the CUP because it is implicit in
any CUP and failure to maintain it would result in a violation.
Crosby stated the landscaping should be maintained.
Smith stated that the trees have been planted and the issue is the lack of a landscape
plan.
Johnson stated that an additional condition could include building drawings and
landscape plans.
Weir inquired about the new conditions to be included in the plans.
Crosby stated the Council has agreed to have Staff address the site building runoff; the
disposal program of the manure; runoff from all of the buildings on the property; the
dates should be October 31, 2008; and obtain the Medina Horse Owner's Association
Rules.
Smith stated she thinks the removal of the manure depends on the size of the pile.
Crosby stated the Council has also agreed to require a building plan and landscape
plan.
Bill Nunn stated they haul their manure about every three months or less. He stated the
original CUP requires every six months. He stated the main time they cannot remove it
is when there are road restrictions. He stated that he had previously stated he would be
able to remove it every two months, but the issue is where it is to be removed to. He
stated that the recommendation by the U of M has been to remove it once or twice per
year. He stated that it isn't always practical to have it removed more often.
Johnson stated that he knows of residents that are having it removed every 2 weeks.
Crosby stated that the Nunn's location and the number of horses impacts the amount of
manure.
Nunn stated that the U of M Extension Service has a formula for calculating the
containment area. He stated that he spoke with his hauler about building a smaller
containment center if the hauler could take it on a monthly basis.
Crosby inquired about where it is currently hauled to. Nunn stated that it goes to a
variety of places, but the people who receive it can only take it as they need it and have
room for it. He stated that it ultimately goes back to the land.
Smith stated that the manure can be composted.
Nunn stated that Alpine Farms has 100 horses and they are on a clay containment
system.
Johnson left the meeting at 9:27.
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Crosby stated the issue isn't the amount of manure, but how the manure can be
contained so that it doesn't leech.
Nunn stated that he would like the concrete containment system because he thinks it
would work the best for them. He stated that he thinks there should be the latitude to
determine which system works best for specific locations. He stated he is concerned
about the date of October 31, 2008 because of the engineer's and builder's schedules.
Benetti stated that the deadline for the application is June 30, 2008.
Crosby stated that he would like the project to be done this summer.
Adams stated that they could request an extension from the applicant, or there could be
two resolutions prepared.
Smith stated that it is in everyone's best interest to have the application completed. She
inquired if there is a way for Staff to expedite the process.
Adams stated the intent is to have the direction from the Council to prepare a resolution
so the application can move forward.
Weir inquired about Nunn's preference for concrete. She stated that by including it in
the CUP it doesn't set precedence due to the amount of horses on the Nunn property.
Nunn stated that they are waiting to hear from the U of M Extension Service engineers.
Smith stated that another component is the location of a nearby wetland.
Nunn thinks it would be proactive for the City to have a proper compost site.
Batty stated the deadline for the application is June 30, 2008 and the Council meeting is
the next day, so an extension wouldn't be very long.
Moved by Weir, seconded by Smith, to direct Staff to prepare a resolution for a
Conditional Use Permit to construct an addition to an existing accessory structure for Bill
and Dianne Nunn, 2825 Willow Drive, as requested. Motion passed unanimously.
B. James and Joan Lane, 2605 Hamel Road and 2905 Willowood Farm Road -
Lot Line Rearrangement and Easement Vacation
Benetti demonstrated the location of the properties, the current lot line, the proposed lot
line, and the easements.
Batty stated that typically when lot lines are moved, the easements need to be moved.
He stated there isn't a need for a new easement, because it has already been obtained.
He stated that they are requesting an easement in exchange for vacating the other
easements.
Smith inquired about the need for an easement. Benetti stated that the easement
follows the policy of having easements around the wetlands.
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Cavanaugh inquired if there is any reason to be concerned about shifting the lot line.
Benetti stated that there is not.
Jim Lane, 2605 Hamel Road, stated that the requested easement costs money and
takes time for something that doesn't gain anything for the City.
Crosby stated that moving the lot line now without addressing the easements is against
the City's policy, but it doesn't leave the City at risk.
Lane stated that the City is asking Gary Kirt to create an easement, which requires him
to get mortgage company consent. He stated that he doesn't think that it serves a
public purpose.
Crosby stated that it brings it consistent with the other policies.
Lane inquired about the purpose of the protections from the Wetland Conservation Act
and the City's ordinances. Crosby stated that there are things that can be done in a
wetland buffer that can't be done in a drainage easement.
Batty stated that the WCA exists and it won't be strengthened by this easement. He
stated that part of the issue is to make sure that stormwater is contained. He stated the
purpose is to be consistent with policy, and to be sure that the entire wetland has
easements around it.
Moved by Weir, seconded by Cavanaugh, to direct Staff to prepare the resolution for the
lot line rearrangement at 2605 Hamel Road and 2905 Willowood Farm Road, as
requested.
Batty stated that at the next meeting they will discuss the easements, and there will be a
public hearing for the vacation of the easements.
Motion passed unanimously.
C. Three Rivers Park District- Baker Campground Amendment to Conditional
Use Permit
Benetti stated there were two previous CUPs granted to Three Rivers Park District. He
stated the proposal is to build four camper cabins this year and demonstrated the
location of the proposed cabins. He stated the applicant would like to use these cabins
to determine if it is feasible to build additional cabins. He stated the dimensions and
details of the cabins. He demonstrated the plans for the cabins. He demonstrated the
location of the 20% buildable area on the campgrounds.
Smith stated that Three Rivers Park District had previously stated that they didn't have
any buildable land.
Crosby stated that the trail is outside of the identified buildable area.
Smith inquired if there will be a trail. Adams said there will be.
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Crosby stated that he is surprised the City has to deal with land use issues for Three
Rivers Park District. Batty stated the reason that it is being processed is because over
the years they have requested CUPs from the City. He stated that the issue may be
whether the City has authority if the Park District had built something and the City had
denied the CUP.
Crosby stated that some entity has to deal with the building code.
Cavanaugh inquired about the potential of the Park District constructing large buildings.
Weir stated the Planning Commission didn't object to waiting to build the remaining
eight cabins. She stated that she thinks that it might be better to have the condition for
build out state 10 years instead of 5 years. She stated that if Three Rivers Park District
changed the style of the cabin, they would need to come back to the City.
Smith stated that having the cabins is a great opportunity for the residents.
Weir stated that they don't know about the park's budget.
Alex Meyer, landscape architect for Three Rivers Park District, stated that they didn't
object to the 5 years because they operate under a 5 year CIP. He stated that this
program is under a study for 5 years. He stated that their preference would be to have it
be more open-ended, since the remaining money isn't available.
Weir stated that she thinks that it is unreasonable to request another entity to reapply if
they don't have money to build the remaining cabins.
The Council agreed to change the condition to build the remaining cabins from 5 years
to 10 years.
Moved by Weir, seconded by Smith, to direct Staff to prepare the resolution for Baker
Campground Amendment to Conditional Use Permit, as amended. Motion passed
unanimously.
IX. CITY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT
A. Schedule Special Meeting(s)- 2009 Budget Work Sessions
Adams stated that the proposed meeting dates are July 14 or July 17. He stated that
there will be a second meeting scheduled in August.
Moved by Smith, seconded by Weir, to schedule the 2009 Budget Work Session on July
17, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. at City Hall, as requested. Motion passed unanimously.
Adams stated that the open house for the budget would be August 11 or August 14 at
7:00 at the Hamel Community Building.
Moved by Weir, seconded by Smith, to schedule the Open House on August 14, 2008 at
7:00 at the Hamel Community Building. Motion passed unanimously.
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B. Storm Water Utility- Question and Answer Mailing
Adams stated that the utility bill currently goes out via postcard. He stated that Staff is
recommending the question and answer mailing be mailed prior to the utility bill.
Weir stated that it is better for the citizens to receive it that way.
Crosby stated that the postcard could have a cross reference to the mailing. He stated
he is concerned that without an explanation, issues will arise.
Weir stated that it would be wise to note the open house that previously occurred.
Smith inquired if the mailing would be a brochure. Adams stated that it will be similar.
The Council agreed to do two separate mailings.
C. Hamel Hawks Liability Insurance
Adams stated the issue is having a waiver from the Hawks team for this year. He stated
the approved contract requires them to provide a certificate of insurance. He stated that
the homeowner's policy can only extend to that one person, but not the entire team. He
stated that the alternative is to have the team obtain a commercial liability policy.
Cavanaugh inquired if there is a way to extend coverage from the City. Adams stated
that there is not.
Smith stated that insurance is required for specific events in the Hamel Community
Center.
Adams stated that homeowner's policies cover some special events.
Crosby stated that he has been told that it is this group's last year. He stated that if that
is the case, then he thinks every player should sign a waiver.
Smith stated that waivers aren't adequate.
Crosby stated that waivers cover the people who sign them, but they don't cover the
people who don't sign them.
Smith inquired about how many people would be covered for an event. Adams stated
that it would be 10 to 15 players.
Smith stated that there is alcohol allowed, but it can't be sold. Adams stated that
anyone can bring alcohol to the park.
Smith stated that the policy is about $1,000. She inquired if the team makes any
money. Crosby stated that they don't.
Adams stated that they used to have concessions, but they don't any more. He stated
that the waivers would require the City to take some risk. He stated that if they choose
to do this, the statement should be made that if the Hawks play next year they will need
to purchase the commercial liability insurance.
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Cavanaugh stated that it might be worth the City paying the $1,000 instead of taking the
risk.
Batty stated that it is a policy issue. He stated that the City has insurance and there are
liability limits.
Smith inquired if they can have opponents sign the waivers. Weir stated that it would be
cumbersome.
Smith stated that she would like to get waivers from the other teams.
Crosby stated that if only some of the team members sign them, one team member
could state that since not all of them signed it the waivers are invalid.
Adams stated that all of the youth groups have coverage.
Batty stated that one of the team members stated he would be able to get his
homeowner's insurance to cover the team, but has since found out that homeowner
policies don't cover these situations.
Adams stated that in letter to the Hawks the requirement about having an insurance
policy in the future would be required.
Moved by Weir, seconded by Smith, to require waivers to be signed by all players, as
requested. Motion passed unanimously.
D. Plymouth Comprehensive Plan Comments
Crosby stated the language needs to be more specific. He stated the infrastructure for
the Erickson project and the church should be paid for by the developers. He stated
they should also state the City's specific concerns and Medina shouldn't have any
responsibility for the costs or safety issues.
Smith stated that she thinks there will need to be a stoplight.
Adams stated that the memo specifies three different areas for the stoplights.
Benetti stated he attended the applicant's meeting and they are interested in doing an
AUAR, which includes an extensive traffic study. He stated that this gives the City the
opportunity to provide specific responses.
Crosby stated that the City would like Plymouth to be mindful of the high density use
. and its impact on Medina.
Cavanaugh inquired if the City should specifically state that they want a residential area
on the corner of CSAH 101 and CR 47 instead of high density.
Crosby stated that there are other low density uses that could be appropriate.
Smith stated that she doesn't think the residents would like to have high density usage
in that area.
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Cavanaugh stated that he would like it to complement the current character of the area.
Weir stated that it should be pointed out that the other three corners are residential.
Crosby inquired about the sense from the meeting of the Erickson project occurring.
Weir stated that it seems that the project will move forward.
Cavanaugh inquired if the City is under any obligation to complete the road. Weir stated
that there is one proposed exit to serve 1,500 units and 600 staff plus from the Erickson
site plus the people from the church to the north will use a shared road to feed on to CR
101.
Degman stated the proposed road is right behind Medina Highland and there are 1,500
units, plus all of the supply places and restaurants.
Smith stated that there should be a road out to the east and not just along Medina's
border to the west.
Rick Edin, Medina Highlands Townhomes, stated that the response was that the road
being on the east side would push the buildings closer to Medina. He stated that one of
the Plymouth's council members stated that the builders appear to be ahead of
themselves.
Crosby, Weir and Adams were directed to make final edits to the memo and distribute to
Plymouth.
E. CR 116 Speed Studv
Adams stated the CR 116 speed study was completed by MnDOT and he is expecting a
report.
F. Lakeshore Stabilization Program
Adams stated that they have received 10 applications. He stated that Staff is working
with Hennepin County Environmental Services to score the applications.
Smith inquired about how many grants could be funded. Adams stated that it depends
on the scope of the project, and projects could be partially funded.
G. Crosswalk on CR 101
Kellogg stated he and Adams had a meeting with Hennepin County to review the study
for the requested pedestrian crosswalk. He stated the crossing at Clydesdale doesn't
make a lot of sense, due to the sight distance and the northbound traffic from TH 55.
He demonstrated the location of the safest crossing, but noted that it isn't a preferred
route due to the distance. He stated that it was requested to find out the preferred
maximum walking distance. He stated that the result was mile. He stated the issue
with the roads is the speed limits. He stated the County is going to look into a crossing
at Lilac. He said they discussed having a flashing amber pedestrian activated light.
Crosby inquired about the flashing amber pedestrian light. Kellogg stated the
pedestrian would assume some responsibility when 'crossing the road.
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Crosby inquired about who has the right of way. Kellogg stated that if the pedestrian is
in the crosswalk, they have the right of way. He stated that they would like feedback
about having a stoplight, no stoplight, or a flashing amber light.
Crosby inquired about who pays for it. Kellogg stated that he doesn't think the County
will contribute very much.
Weir inquired about the longevity of the light, given the increase of traffic. Kellogg
stated that there are peak traffic times. He stated the County was adverse to the red
light because it will disrupt traffic.
Smith stated that she doesn't think it will be used very much.
Adams stated that is part of the struggle for Hennepin County.
The Council concurred that they would like the flashing amber light.
Cavanaugh inquired if there was any discussion about the development on CR 101 and
its traffic. Adams stated that there was none at this point.
X. MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Weir inquired if the Council could discuss at a future workshop the possibility of
requesting permission from citizens to receive communications from the City
electronically.
Crosby inquired about the number of people that receive the minutes electronically.
Adams stated that it is about 60-80. He stated that the list would need to be maintained.
Smith inquired if there was a meeting with the Hamel Fire Department. Crosby stated
that he and Adams have met with them and they expressed their concerns about not
being involved in the internal politics.
Adams stated that they received reassurance that they are responding to all of the fire
calls and they discussed the long term prospects.
Crosby stated that there is Tess resistance to the idea of consolidation than he expected.
Smith stated that Woodbury has cross -trained some policeman and fireman.
Adams stated that it has been discussed with other City employees as well.
Cavanaugh inquired if the City receives a report about the fire calls. Adams stated that
they do receive a report.
Weir stated that Long Lake's new fire chief has been instituting leadership programs.
Adams stated that building relationships and cross -training was discussed at the
meeting.
Xl. APPROVAL TO PAY THE BILLS
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Moved by Weir, seconded by Smith, to approve the bills, order check numbers 032486-
032543 for $215, 932.01, e-checks 000240-000248 for $31, 935.41, payroll check
numbers 020176-020177 for $2,227.14, and payroll direct deposit 501273-501301 for
$40, 991.73. Motion passed unanimously.
XII. ADJOURN
Moved by Weir, seconded by Smith, to adjourn the meeting at 10:40 p.m. Motion
passed unanimously.
Tom Crosby, Mayor
Attest:
Chad M. Adams, City Administrator
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ORDER CHECKS Mav 16.2008 - Mav 29.2008
032486 OFFICE OF CHILD SUPPORT $92.31
032487 AGGREGATE INDUSTRIES INC $5,735.62
032488 AMERIPRIDE LINEN & APPAREL $103.00
032489 ASPEN MILLS $79.95
032490 BENJAMINMICHEL CATERING $103.31
032491 BOART LONGYEAR COMPANY $1,744.47
032492 BONESTROO, ROSENE, $72,934.68
032493 BROCK WHITE $3,180.27
032494 BUDGET PRINTING $158.06
032495 CIPHER LABORATORIES INC $2,773.69
032496 CLASSIC CLEANING $717.82
032497 ELAN FINANCIAL SERVICE $1,132.96
032498 FIRST STUDENT, INC $162.75
032499 GEISLINGER AND SONS INC $28,312.61
032500 GOPHER SIGN CO. $180.83
032501 GREEN STUFF $91.60
032502 HEALTHPARTNERS (NEW) $20,582.27
032503 HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF $638.44
032504 HIGHWAY 55 RENTAL $152.46
032505 IACP CONFERENCE $275.00
032506 J & B LAWN, TREE & STUMP $4,375.00
032507 JJ KELLER & ASSOCIATES INC $29.55
032508 KENNEDY & GRAVEN $22,449.80
032509 KONICA MINOLTA (COPIER $600.04
032510 LAW ENFORCEMENT LABOR $336.00
032511 LORETTO VOLUNTEER FIRE $18,007.59
032512 MAYER DISTRIBUTING $19,696.38
032513 MIDWEST ASPHALT $103.54
032514 MINNETONKA MUSIC AND $125.00
032515 MN CITY/CO MANAGEMENT $93.00
032516 MOTHERS MOTORS/LORETTO $265.07
032517 NELSON ELECTRIC MOTOR $211.29
032518 NORTH MEMORIAL EMS $15.00
032519 OFFICE DEPOT $133.35
032520 ON SITE SANITATION $437.74
032521 PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE CO. $513.57
032522 QWEST $482.13
032523 RANDY'S SANITATION $1,454.74
032524 SCHOENING EXCAVATING INC $1.,411.00
032525 SPRINT/NEXTEL $318.08
032526 ST PAUL STAMP WORKS INC $12.73
032527 STRETCHER'S $694.17
032528 SUN PRESS & NEWSPAPERS $118.08
032529 TIME SAVER OFF SITE SEC. $355.63
032530 WAYZATA, CITY OF $15.50
032531 WESTSIDE WHOLESALE TIRE $161.06
032532 WRIGHT HENNEPIN $2,519.68
032533 XCEL ENERGY $1,845.19
032534 Void $0.00
032535 Void $0.00
032536 Void $0.00
032537 Void $0.00
032538 Void $0.00
032539 Void $0.00
032540 Void $0.00
032541 Void $0.00
032542 Void $0.00
032543 Void $0.00
Total Order Checks $215,932.01
000240 MINNESOTA, STATE OF
000241 FARMERS STATE BANK OF
000242 ACCLAIM BENEFITS-
000243 PR PERA
000244
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E-CHECKS Mav 16.2008 - Mav 29. 2008
$1,585.00
$30.00
$785.85
$9,983.10
PR FED/FICA $11,909.29
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000245 PR MN Deferred Comp $925.00
000246 PR STATE OF MINNESOTA $2,518.97
000247 FARMERS STATE BANK OF $20.00
000248 ACCLAIM BENEFITS- $4.178.20
Total E-Checks $31,935.41
PAYROLL CHECKS Mav 16.2008 — Mav 29.2008
020176 REINKING, DEREK M $1,176.64
020177 VIEAU, CECILIA M. $1.050.50
Total Payroll Checks $2,227.14
PAYROLL DIRECT DEPOSIT Mav 16.2008 - Mav 29.2008
501273 ANN, KIMBERLY $603.17
501274 BARNHART, ERIN $1,285.30
501275 BELLAND, EDGAR J. $2,451.13
501276 BENETTI, TIMOTHY $2,008.00
501277 BOECKER, KEVIN D. $1,993.02
501278 CONVERSE, KEITH A. $1,870.32
501279 DAY, JEANNE M $1,895.95
501280 DINGMANN, IVAN W $1,893.37
501281 DOMINO, CHARMANE $1,237.00
501282 DRESSEL, ROBERT P. $1,231.39
501283 FINKE, DUSTIN D $1,383.32
501284 GREGORY, THOMAS $2,034.62
501285 HALL, DAVID M. $2,295.94
501286 JESSEN, JEREMIAH S $1,087.78
501287 KLAERS GROTHE, ANNE M. $559.54
501288 LANE, LINDA $1,231.12
501289 LEUER, GREGORY J. $1,669.25
501290 MAROHNIC, NICHOLAS $499.62
501291 MCGILL, CHRISTOPHER R. $1,698.35
501292 MCKINLEY, JOSHUA D $497.64
501293 NELSON, JASON $2,072.41
501294 PETERSON-DUFRESNE, $1,271.92
501295 PORTINEN, TERI $1,213.43
501296 SCHERER, STEVEN T. $1,808.31
501297 VINCK, JOHN J. $1,460.17
501298 WUNSCH, JODI M $1,170.81
501299 REINKING, DEREK M $1.00
501300 VIEAU, CECILIA M. $1.00
501301 ADAMS, CHAD M. $2.566.85
Total Payroll Direct Deposit $40,991.73
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