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Home My Public Portal AboutPlanning Board -- 2007-07-25 Minutes\\\\\~~~~\\\\\\\11~ttE tl~lJS iiiii~/,/iii _ i <~ 3 ~ fir N / //////// / / / / / ~ ~ ~ l 1111 f ! 1 I I l I l l t i 1 1 1 \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \~\~~\\~\\ Date Approved: August 22, 7002 Vote: 5-0-0 Brewster Planning Board 2198 Main Street Brewster, Massachusetts 02631-1898 (508) 896-3701 FAX (508) 896-8089 TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES OF PLANNING BOARD Wednesday July 25, 2007 7:00 P.M. Brewster Town Office Building Chairman Henchy convened the Planning Board meeting at 7:OOPM in the Brewster Town Office Building with members Taylor, Cabezas, Tubman, Pierce and McMullen. Minutes from June 13th were reviewed and approved with modifications. Vote: 6-0-0 Chairman Henchy opened the hearing July 25, 2007 by reading the legal advertisement and making the applicant and parties in interest aware of their rights to appeal as required under Chapter 40A, Section 17. He stated that during the hearing any member of the Board or interested party could direct questions through the Chairman to a speaker relating to the proposal. CONTINUANCE LEGAL HEARING -SUBDIVISION PLAN #2007-13 -Applicant: Brad Malo, Coastal Engineering Co./Owner: John David Cist; Located Gardner Road off Tubman on Assessors' Map 26, Parcels 60-4. Proposed Definitive Plan for 3 lots. Present: Myer Singer, Brad Malo, Coastal Engineering Co. Malo: revised plans had been submitted however Mr. Malo met with the Fire Chief and the Water Department and made further changes -these plans dated 7/25/07 were also submitted. Mr. Malo outlined the basic changes as follows: (1) they have increased drainage capacity at the beginning of the proposed road by adding approx. 20% more stone (2) they have realigned the road to a symmetrical design which would put the pavement in the center of the right of way. (3) they have kept the 22 foot travel lane per the fire departments request -Chief Jones really needs 22 foot of paved road but he doesn't need the berm or shoulder. Based on this feedback, Mr. Malo would like to request a waiver of 2 foot shoulders. Henchy: Re-read the Fire Dept. Review and read in its entirety the memo just received from the Mr. Bersin at the DPW. The applicant didn't have any major concerns about the DPW's memo except for item #9 regarding drainage. Mr. Bersin requested that the applicant's roadway be graded away from Tubman Road at a minimum grade of 1 % for a minimum of 100 feet. Mr. Malo was concerned that this may invite more drainage from Tubman onto the applicant's road. Mr. Malo also felt that the redesign which includes the crown of the road would eliminate the water from exiting Thacher road. Mr. Henchy asked the other board members their opinions. Taylor: Felt we could not waive an outlined item DPW had without having a further discussion with Mr. Bersin. Cabezas and Pierce: both felt that we needed to consider DPW's requirements McMullen: no comment Planning Board Meeting Page 1 of 4 07-25-07 Singer: Recommended that the Planning Board ok the plan with a condition that the roadway system be designed so that no water runoff onto Tubman would occur. Malo: Pointed out that 4 catch basins is well above the normal requirements especially for this concentration of a roadway system. Typically you would only have 2 catch basins. Henchy: Recommended that Mr. Malo talk with DPW Singer: noted that they have prepared a statement of conditions that would be recorded in the deed. Henchy: opened the floor to the rest of the board. Taylor: wanted to make sure they are ok with the setbacks. Malo: yes, the setbacks and road placement was ok'd back in 1988 Henchy: noted that they will have a 22 foot paved roadway - 3 foot of berms and 15 foot shoulders on each side - 2 feet on each side will/can be improved after construction. Opened the floor to the public. Castalino: an abutter -wanted to know how this drainage plan compared to the drainage plan he had for Keith Lane. Malo: Mr. Malo looked at the plan and noted that essentially the plans were the same -They were both using conventional catch basins and leaching pits. However, the Keith Lane plan looked like it was using an older system and the Thacher Road plan allowed for 3 feet of stone around basins. Tubman: Asked how many catch basins were on Keith Lane? 2 at the end, 2 in the lane and 2 in the cul-de- sac. Castalino: If this system is essentially the same then they are very concerned because it just doesn't work. Cabezas: Noted that the water problem was from Tubman and it isn't the applicants responsible to fix the Tubman Road issue. Henchy: mentioned that catch basins and leaching structures need to be cleaned - if they are not cleaned properly then they can be faulty and the system can fail. Usher, an abutter: He has been at his property for over 14 years and knew of the paper road but also wanted to point out that he didn't want to be forced to move his driveway to accommodate this development. Mr. Usher also pointed out that there is a river running down Tubman and verified that the water collects down at Keith Lane. Lawrence, an abutter: wanted to know why the plan was revised to move the road to the center - it seems like it is a disadvantage for the abutters. Henchy: pointed out that the rules and regulations require the road to be centered -Also, the utilities are underground and need to be on both sides of the pavement -typically water runs on one side and the electric/cable/phone runs on the other. Further, Mr. Henchy pointed out that the fire department requires the width for safety purposes. Singer: Said that when they are building the road whatever is not needed for construction will be left undisturbed. Henchy: Asked that the planning board clerk make the following note in the conditions: The clearing in the 5'h foot shoulder portion of the road should be minimized. He also noted that the roadway is on the assessor's maps and it will be built. The planning board can't deny the request but it must be built to town standards. Lawrence: wanted to know if a timeframe for this development had been established Planning Board Meeting Page 2 of 4 07-25-07 Singer: did not have any timeframes yet Henchy: pointed out that the applicant had 2 years from this decision date in order to start the development Kenny: Are there any requirements on the developer to replace any vegetation or trees? Henchy: the town standards only say they need to reseed Kenny: Can they add a fence to their property? Henchy: yes, as long as you go through the proper channels -permitting process Castalino: wanted to make note that the current engineering plan for Thacher only included 1 leaching pit - Keith Lane currently has 2 pits and it isn't enough. Malo: noted that the number of catch basins and leaching pits on the plan exceeds that of Keith Lane - especially because the subdivision will cnly have 3 lots. Henchy: normally you would have 2 catch basins that would be connected to one leaching pit. Castalino: would like to have a conversation with Mr. Bersin (DPW). Henchy: said it was perfectly ok for Mr. Castalino to have a conversation with DPW -because something does need to be done for Keith Lane. Singer: It appears that the stumbling block before the board is that the recommendations from DPW be adhered to. Given that, on behalf of his client, they would agree to everything in the DPW letter in order to get the approval. Usher: wanted to be clear that he didn't have to move his driveway. Also, wanted to know if he would be responsible for clearing his land because the DPW noted that site distance needed to be cleared 100 feet on either side of the road. Further, he wanted to confirm that he didn't have to be included in the subdivision responsibility for maintenance of the road. Henchy: let Mr. Usher know that he did not have to move his driveway, nor did he have to clear his land and he certainly did not need to be included in the subdivision. Henchy: Asked to Close the meeting to Public Input Motion by Pierce to close the meeting to public input. Second by McMullen. Vote: all AYE 6-0-0 Motion by Taylor to prepare a favorable decision draft with the changes noted. Second by Pierce. Vote: all AYE 6-0-0 Motion by Pierce to continue to next meeting on Aug. 8th. Second by Tubman Vote: all AYE 6-0-0 INFORMAL DISCUSSION: Eastward Companies; Long Pond Landing, Lot 2 Whidah Way on Assessor's Map 48, Parcel 8-2 -Site Plan Review Present: Susan Ladue, Eastward Companies Ladue: Per their agreement -Eastward Companies would come before the Board and present proposed home layouts which is what is before the board now. Planning Board Meeting Page 3 of 4 07-25-07 Henchy: would like to see the septic system rotated 90 degrees and slide out into the center -this will keep the system further away from the water. Ladue: said she would be happy to check with her engineers to see if they could move the septic. Mr. Henchy opened floor to the board. Pierce/McMullen -liked the looks of the plan and thought it looked good It was the sense of the board that the plan looked good and should be approved. Motion by McMullen to approve with modifications. Second Pierce Vote: all AYE Motion -Pierce to adjourn Second - Cabezas All AYE Respectfully submitted, ._ rA/laraarie fierce/Clerk ann~,~ci/Administfative Clerk Planning Board Meeting 07-25-07 L S~ Ott 9- d3S L0. .. .. .. ~: 5~~t3N8 Page 4 of 4