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HomeMy Public PortalAbout03-24-2022 Special HPC Minutes.doc Special Meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission Record of Minutes Date: March 24, 2022 Location: Village Hall CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, PLEDGE Chairman Bortel called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. Roll call: Commissioners Derrick, Hagen, Olsen, Rapp, Schmidt, and Chairman Bortel were present. Commissioner Barvian was absent. Also, in attendance: Jonathan Proulx, Director of Planning Chairman Bortel led the pledge to the flag. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Derrick made a motion to approve the agenda. Seconded by Commissioner Rapp. Voice Vote. All in favor. 0 opposed. Motion carried 6-0. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Olsen made a motion to approve the Historic Preservation Commission minutes dated December 9, 2021, as presented. Seconded by Commissioner Hagen. Voice Vote. All in favor. 0 opposed. Motion carried 6-0 Commissioner Derrick made a motion to approve the Historic Preservation Commission minutes dated February 10, 2022, as presented. Seconded by Commissioner Rapp. Voice Vote. All in favor. 0 opposed. Motion carried 6-0 CHAIR’S COMMENTS Chairman Bortel stated that staff has been interviewing for two new planners and the village is now a member of the National Association of Preservation Commission. Chairman Bortel indicated he would like to have a CAMP in 2023. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Olsen would like to see the one lane bridge on Old Renwick Road to be landmarked and restored. Commissioner Olsen asked if the bridge is part of the bike path. Mr. Proulx stated the park district has been pursuing grants to continue the bike path and thought the bridge was part of the bike path plan. Commissioner Olsen stated the park district was at the meeting she attended, and she was under the impression the township was not into preserving the bridge. Commissioner Rapp stated the bridge is in the township. Chairman Bortel asked staff if this could be perused as a landmark. Mr. Proulx stated he will talk to Dan Seggebruch, since he is also on the Will County Historic Preservation. Commissioner Olsen asked if they are able landmark this since is not in the village. Mr. Proulx stated owner consent would be required. Chairman Bortel stated Will County HPC does not need owner consent to landmark. Commissioner Derrick asked why the bridge spared. Mr. Proulx explained the original vision was to have bridge part of the Plank Road trail. Commissioner Derrick explained that alignments can be changed because of a bridges’ a unique design type or history/importance. Chairman Bortel stated there may be a possibility to work with the Park District and Township to landmark and restore the bridge. Commissioner Schmidt stated he was approached to create some design ideas to use the bridge for an attraction. Commissioner Derrick stated an event could be held on the bridge to fund raise for the restoration. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes March 24, 2022 Page 2 of 6 PUBLIC COMMENT No Public Comments. OLD BUSINESS No Old Business. NEW BUSINESS 1961-031022.COA.SPR WINE AND CHEESE COMPANY KACIE WADYCKI Mr. Proulx stated the Plan Commission did recommend approval of the site plan review. Mr. Proulx stated the petitioner is proposing to construct a pergola structure with canopy in the courtyard adjacent to the restaurant building to provide an area for covered outdoor dining. The courtyard was recently improved with outdoor dining, decomposed granite landscape material, planter boxes and a tree. The request will require consideration of a site plan review by the Plan Commission and certificate of appropriateness (COA) by the Historic Preservation Commission. Mr. Proulx reviewed the staff report dated March 22, 2022. Mr. Proulx concluded In advance of any public comment or discussion by the Historic Preservation Commission, staff and the Plan Commission support the proposed structure. Commissioner Rapp likes the structure as presented. Commissioner Hagen likes that the structure is setback from the sidewalk, and it will blend into the metal staircase next to it. Commissioner Hagen is agreeable with the applicant adding some decorative features. Commissioner Olsen asked if the structure is metal or wood. Mr. Proulx indicated that the structure will be wood and painted black. Commissioner Olsen stated she had used the corrugated plastic material in the past and it did not weather well. Commissioner Derrick stated the applicant said during the Plan Commission meeting that the roofing material will be polycarbonate. Ms. Wadycki stated this material is specifically made for pergola type structures and the product claims a long life without yellowing it will also provide UV protection, is fire rated, and anti-fog. Ms. Wadycki stated at this time the structure will not be heated but she would like to heat it in the future. Commissioner Schmidt asked how thick the product is. Ms. Wadycki stated there are many widths to choose from the manufacturer Lexan Cover Light. Ms. Wadycki stated this structure will make the outdoor dining experience safer for the costumers because of the wind that come through frequently lifts their umbrellas. Commissioner Schmidt indicated that as the structure is presented it will not be able to support the product. Mr. Proulx stated the builder indicated at the Plan Commission meeting additional supports will be needed. Chairman Bortel would like the structure to be more rustic looking to blend in better with the historic downtown by adding brackets. Chairman Bortel is not sure black is an appropriate color since the area has more browns. Chairman Bortel asked will sides be added when it is heated. Ms. Wadycki indicated yes and they would be roll down tarps that would not be permanent. Commissioner Derrick suggested the applicant to trim the ends and add some more details so it can blend in better. Ms. Wadycki explained what elements she has already added to the property to help it blend Historic Preservation Commission Minutes March 24, 2022 Page 3 of 6 into the downtown. Commissioner Olsen stated she likes the darker color for the pergola. Ms. Wadycki stated she is willing to add more detail. Commissioner Rapp asked if the parking in the rear will be maintained. Ms. Wadycki stated they have an upstairs tenant and those are their parking spaces. Commissioner Olsen asked if a more detailed plan will be submitted when they get their permit. Ms. Wadycki confirmed. Commissioner Derrick asked if there is an age on the warranty before it yellows. Ms. Wadycki handed Commissioner Derrick product information. Ms. Wadycki stated it is easily accessible for power washing. Commission Derrick stated there is nothing in the product information regarding a yellowing warranty and asked the applicant to obtain the information before she goes before the Board. Commissioner Olsen suggested a canvas cover. Ms. Wadycki stated a fire rated roll up cover is too costly. Commissioner Derrick surveyed the commission on their feelings of the polycarbonate cover and trimming the ends. Ms. Wadycki indicated that they were planning on adding a fascia, so the polycarbonate cover edges are not visible. Commissioner Derrick asked if the HPC is allowed to approve the final drawing by email. Mr. Proulx stated final plans can be emailed to the commissioners and each commissioner can provide their comments individually, without a group discussion. Commissioner Derrick made a motion to recommend approval of the modified Certificate of Appropriateness for a covered pergola structure adjacent to 24104 W. Lockport Street, subject to execution of a Letter of Agreement with the HPC, applicant, and Village staff to accept the following conditions of approval: 1. Structure - Addition of brackets to add detail – fascia to go all around structure – needs more joists; and 2. Drawings – Accurate drawings by architect to be submitted to staff for HPC members to review via email to provide opinion to whether the COA conditions are met; and 3. Polycarbonate Cover – applicant to provide information to staff regarding the yellowing warranty of the product; and 4. Any design changes that deviate from what was presented at the Mach 24, 2022 meeting of the HPC and not included as part of the agenda packet must be reviewed by the chair and the staff of the Planning Office for substantial conformance with the COA approval. Seconded by Commissioner Schmidt. Vote by roll call: Hagen, yes; Olsen, yes; Rapp, yes; Schmidt, yes; Derrick, yes; and Bortel, yes. Motion carried 6-0. 1963-032222.COA UPTOWN TAP CHRISTINA KOLLINTZAS Mr. Proulx stated the applicant is proposing modifications to the front façade of the two storefronts that make up the combined Uptown restaurant at 24035-24037 W. Lockport St. The objectives of the façade improvements include enhancing the overall appearance of the restaurant and also unifying the look of the two separate buildings’ storefronts into a cohesive restaurant image. Because the property is located in the Village’s Downtown Historic District and the National Register of Historic Places, this work requires approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness. While not recommended for local landmark status, both buildings are identified as “Contributing” both locally and for the National Register district Mr. Proulx reviewed the staff report dated March 22, 2022. Mr. Proulx concluded in advance of any public comment or discussion by the Historic Preservation Commission, staff supports the awning and signage aspects of the proposed project and seeks direction relative to the façade painting component. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes March 24, 2022 Page 4 of 6 Commissioner Olsen asked if there are two PIN numbers for the buildings. Ms. Kollintzas confirmed. Commissioner Olsen feels this should remain two buildings and asked where the front step is. Ms. Kollintzas stated that they are not removing the step, they want to paint, replace the awning, and vinyl heat wrap the upper bricks. Commissioner Olsen asked if the windows are being replaced and if they are repairing the cornices. Ms. Kollintzas stated no. Commissioner Olsen and Chairman Bortel stated the rendering provided looks like a totally different building then what the applicant is proposing. Commissioner Schmidt asked if the awning would cover the wood. Ms. Kollintzas explained where the awning will be placed and stated the paint the choose will blend in with the limestone. Commissioner Hagen asked if the awning is aluminum. Ms. Kollintzas stated it is a standing seam aluminum awning. Commissioner Hagen stated he doesn’t think the aluminum awning because it doesn’t fit the downtown. Commissioner Olsen asked if they would restore the cornices. Ms. Kollintzas stated the cornices are in great shape and they will just be painting them the same color they already are. Commissioner Olsen asked the applicant if she owns the buildings. Ms. Kollintzas confirmed. Commissioner Hagen asked if the brick will be painted. Ms. Kollintzas stated the brick will be vinyl wrapped and the wrap is applied with heat and is removed the same way. Commissioner Olsen asked if the siding will be removed. Ms. Kollintzas stated there will be no demo done. Commissioner Olsen asked if the sign meets the downtown sign standards. Mr. Proulx stated internal illumination is prohibited and feels the lighting source is visible. Commissioner Olsen asked if the sign code has anything about design or compatibility with the surrounding signs. Mr. Proulx stated the signs in the Central Sign District is supposed to relate to the building. Commissioner Derrick stated the concept sign is something you see historical and added the sign does not intrude of any character defining features. Commissioner Hagen asked what purview they have over the sign. Chairman Bortel stated the sign needs to meet the village ordinances. Commissioner Rapp stated that the proposed does not keep the two-building look since it has always been two separate buildings. Ms. Kollintzas stated as a business owner having it look like one building would help. Commissioner Derrick stated that the awning and sign are temporary changes and feels that HPC’s job is to manage that none to the character defining features are irreversible destroyed. Commissioner Derrick also added that she does not mind the metal awning and for her it is more about not painting the brick, she would also like more information on the vinyl wrapping of the brick. Chairman Bortel agrees with Commissioner Derrick that they need more information about the vinyl wrap so they can ensure it will not damage the brick. Commissioner Olsen asked if she is using the awning and sign to tie the building together. Ms. Kollintzas confirmed. Commissioner Derrick asked what the depth of the awning. Ms. Kollintzas stated it should be the same depth of the current awning. Ms. Kollintzas stated the sign will help people to know where they are going, and the intent is to have all the colors blend in with the limestone. Commissioner Derrick asked if the commission is ok with the painting of the limestone. Ms. Kollintzas stated they will not be painting the limestone, just cleaning it. Commissioner Derrick clarified that the COA request is for painting of the old deli building, vinyl wrapping the upper bricks (more information needs to be provided by the applicant regarding this product), painting of cornices, awning spanning the lengthen of the two buildings which the dept will be maintained aluminum standing seam. Mr. Proulx added the sign as well, if there is any feedback. Ms. Kollintzas stated the LED lightbulbs would be comparable to a 4-watt lightbulb. Commissioner Schmidt asked what is the color temperature. Ms. Kollintzas stated 2,700 lumens. Commissioner Derrick stated it would need to be a warmer light. Commissioner Olsen stated the sign could cause a lot of holes in the brick. Ms. Kollintzas stated she will try and mount letters to the mortar. The commission suggested a backing to the sign, so there is less holes Historic Preservation Commission Minutes March 24, 2022 Page 5 of 6 in the mortar. Commissioner Derrick asked what the commission feelings are on the awning. Ms. Kollintzas asked their feeling if the awning was copper. Chairman Bortel suggested matching the awning color to the streetlight. Commissioner Derrick made a motion to recommend approval of the requested Certificate of Appropriateness for façade improvements at 24035-24037 W. Lockport Street, subject to execution of a Letter of Agreement with the HPC, applicant, and Village staff to accept the following conditions of approval. Scope of Work Summary– signage, painting of “deli” side windows frames, vinyl warp for upper brick, replacing the awning, and replacement of 2 light fixture on “deli” side that do not appear to be historic; and 1. Signage – Warm lights to be used that do not exceed 2,700 lumens warm temperature, mounted to mortar joints, mounting on a back board to reduce damage to building; and 2. Awning – standing seam (copper colored preferred) spanning the length of the two building and the depth to be same as existing awning; and 3. Vinyl Wrapping of Upper Brick – applicant to provide more information to the commission before determination by commission; and 4. Any design changes that deviate from what was presented at the Mach 24, 2022 meeting of the HPC and not included as part of the agenda packet must be reviewed by the chair and the staff of the Planning Office for substantial conformance with the COA approval. Seconded by Commissioner Schmidt. Vote by roll call: Hagen, yes; Olsen, yes; Rapp, no; Schmidt, yes; Derrick, yes; and Bortel, yes. Motion carried 5-1. 1964-032222.COA BIG SAMMY’S MIKE MAYERS Mr. Proulx stated the applicant is proposing modifications to the storefront window opening at the restaurant at 24036 W. Lockport St. to incorporate an ordering “pass thru” window. Because the property is located in the Village’s Downtown Historic District and the National Register of Historic Places, this work requires approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness. While not recommended for local landmark status, the building is identified as “Contributing” both locally and for the National Register district. Mr. Proulx reviewed the staff report dated March 22, 2022. Mr. Proulx concluded staff supports the proposed window alteration. Staff believes that change does not detract from the historic fenestration, height, proportion or relationship of the window openings from the existing to proposed condition. Staff also believes the proposed change can readily be restored back to a fixed window within the existing opening at any point in the future. Commissioner Derrick asked what type of framing will be needed. Mr. Mayers explained how no framing would be needed because it is encased. Commissioner Olsen asked for clarification that the entire existing window will be removed. Mr. Mayers confirmed. Chairman Bortel suggested they save the window that is removed. Commissioner Rapp asked if there will be outdoor seating. Mr. Mayers is hoping to have outdoor seating. Chairman Bortel asked the applicant if he spoken to the Will County Health Department. Mr. Mayers stated the County had no issues because they will only be serving Italian ice and gelato through the window. Commissioner Schmidt asked if they will be required to install an air curtain. Mr. Mayers stated they will need to install just a screen. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes March 24, 2022 Page 6 of 6 Commissioner Rapp asked the applicant if he is aware o the outdoor seating requirements. Mr. Mayers stated he has spoken to staff about table placement. Commissioner Derrick asked where the stainless counter is located, and it will be a flat windowpane on the outside of the building. Mr. Mayers indicated the counter in on the inside of the building and explained how the window will appear from the outside. Commissioner Schmidt asked what the window dividers will made of. Mr. Mayers stated it will be white vinyl. Commissioner Derrick asked if the wood frame will stay. Mr. Mayers stated it will stay. Commissioner Derrick made a motion to recommend approval of the requested Certificate of Appropriateness for a replacement window with pass-thru opening at 24036 W. Lockport Street, subject to execution of a Letter of Agreement with the HPC, applicant, and Village staff to accept the following conditions of approval: 1. Pass-thru Window – Replacement of the glass only for the eastern-most window on the ground floor of the building – wood window frame will not be altered. Seconded by Commissioner Hagen. Vote by roll call: Olsen, yes; Rapp, yes; Schmidt, yes; Hagen, yes; Hendricksen, yes; and Bortel, yes. Motion carried 6-0. DISCUSSION Chairman Bortel asked the commissioners to start thinking about there nomination for Preservation Awards. Chairman Bortel stated he is hoping to finish the landmark of the house on Route 59. Chairman Bortel asked if there is an update on the House of Harvest on Route 59. Mr. Proulx stated the plans are under review by the Village. Chairman Bortel stated the house on Des Plaines St. has been demolished and the building Mary Alice Lambert owned is under new ownership. Commissioner Hagen asked if the playhouse on Des Plaines St. was demolished. Chairman Bortel stated the playhouse is still there. ADJOURN Commissioner Derrick made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Barvian seconded the motion. Motion carried 6-0. Meeting adjourned at 8:52 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Tracey Erickson Recording Secretary