HomeMy Public PortalAbout2000CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
December 6th, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:00 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Gordon Eccles
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Doug Walberg
Mike Dorris
Scott Findley
Marilyn Arp
Jack Magee
Minutes Of Previous Meetinq(s)
Lori MacNichol moved to approve the minutes of Nov 1st, 2000. Gordon Eccles
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Public Comment
Mike Dorris is composing a letter back to the City of McCall addressing the
airport intersection. He cited a State Aeronautics regulation 18-7033 that
prohibits unauthorized vehicles from entering airports. He put the AAC on
notice. He stated that he has contacted several sources that he feels are doing
what they want to do and ignoring his concerns
Jerry Robinson feels there may be a problem with a fuel truck tuming into
airport.
Gordon Eccles wants to address this intersection at the next meeting and wants
it to be an agenda item. He wants the Airport Manager to contact Bill Keating
and ask if he would attend the next meeting.
Business
Salmon Air Hangar: The Airport Manager updated the AAC on the status of the
hangar. He had asked Zane Mangum if he would attend the meeting to address the
AAC questions. He explained that Mr. Mangum stated that he has no lease with
JoAnn Wolters. He plans on being off of the airport in the Spring. Lori MacNichol
wanted to know if Mr. Mangum is receiving payments as a Salmon Air employee.
The Airport Manager didn't know. Gordon Eccles wants to see if he departs in the
Spring. Lori MacNichol stated she has e-mailed JoAnn Wolters and has received
no response. The Airport Manger has briefed Bill Watson, FAA rep, on the
Minimum Standard requirements an issues regarding the hangar status. Gordon
Eccles feels the AAC is being stonewalled. Lori MacNichol made a motion to have
the City Attorney send a letter to Salmon Air and notify them that they are in
violation of the lease requirements and Minimum Standards. Mike Dorris stated
that he may be out of line and may not understand the process but he noted that
Doug Manchester doesn't have any aircraft in his hangar and should also be
included in the process. Gordon Eccles asked that the motion be amended to
include a letter to Doug Manchester. The motion was amended to include a letter
to Doug Manchester. Gordon Eccles seconded the motion and the motion passed.
Action: The Airport Manager will ask the City Manager if the City Attorney can
prepare a letter to Salmon Air and Doug Manchester explaining the Minimum
Standards and asking the parties to address the AAC concerns regarding their
hangar use.
Public Comment Period: No comment.
Lease for Jeff Howell Lot #7: The Airport Manager explained that Jeff Howell
would like to lease Lot #7. He would like to reduce the lot frontage from 95 feet to
75 feet. Scott Findley noted that the AAC should try to maximize the lots because
of the limited number of spaces. The Airport Manager noted that reducing the lot
frontage would give the City a wider right-of-way for a future road access next to the
lot. Lori McNichol noted that overall this lease would be good for the airport. Jack
Magee noted he still has his lot available. The Airport Manager noted that Jeff
Howell would have purchased Jack Magee's lease but Jeff Howell felt the price was
unreasonable. Scott Findley suggested a financial study. The Airport Manager
noted the difference in the lease revenue was only $300.00 per year and he wasn't
going to get anything from this lot due to the right-of-way problem. Jerry Robinson
suggested a compromise of 85 feet. Lori MacNichol made a motion to lease Jeff
Howell the lot at 85X150 feet and Jeff Howell will pay for 50% of the survey cost.
Jerry Robinson seconded the motion and the motion passed.
Action: The Airport Manager will place the lease on the next City Council agenda.
Public Comment: No comment.
Airport Manager Update: The Airport Manager briefed the MC on the FAA
contract to repair the NDB. He explained that the City of McCall never canceled the
contract and the FM is billing the City of McCall for repairs that were made two
years ago. The FAA admitted a flaw in their accounting process that resulted in a
situation where several airports weren't being billed. The City now owes
approximately $9,100 in back billing. The Airport Manager asked the AAC if they
wanted the NDB to stay operational and if they wanted the FAA to continue to
repair or research a contractor to take over repairs. Lori MacNichol made a motion
to keep the NDB operational and have the Airport Manager research a potential
change to a private contractor taking over the repair. Gordon Eccles seconded the
motion and the motion passed.
Action: The Airport Manager will research and develop an RFP for a potential
contractor to take over repairs.
Public Comment:
Gordon Eccles likes public comment and finds that he isn't well versed on some of
the subjects. He feels that the public comment shouldn't be cut off.
Jerry Robinson stated that the information is important.
Marilyn Arp noted public comment is ok as long as it remains civil and the Chair has
to have the discretion to stop comment when it is no longer beneficial to the
proceedings.
Adjournment
Jerry Robinson moved to adjoum. Ray Franz seconded and the meeting was adjoumed
at 1:30 PM.
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AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
November tr 2000
Call -To Order And Members Present
Committee -Chairperson -Lori MacNlchofrailari the meeting -to order at 6:00 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol-
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Gordon Eccles
Attendees
Geoffrey -Rowe -(Airport Manager)
DougWalberg
Pat Dorris
Mike Donis
Cathleen Koch
Kathy Crowther
Bill Roesler
Woody Woodworth
Minutes Of Previous Meetinq(sj
Lori MacNichol moved -to -approve -the minutes-of-Oct-4, 2000. Ray Franz
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Roberts Rules of Orden Cathleen -Koch, City Clerk, gave -a-briefon-Robert's
Rules of Order. She also briefed the AAC on the Idaho Open Meeting Law. She
explained that no action could be -taken on anitemthat isn't posted beforehand.
She explained the difference between a public hearing and a public meeting. If the
AAC-wants to allow -public -comment it should allow- it before any agenda -items.
Gordon Eccles would still like a short comment period before each agenda item.
Jerry-Robinson-would.also-likeacomment pedodbefore an agenda item. Lori-
MacNichol noted that the Chair must recognize and give the floor to anyone that
wantstoaddress-theAAC. Ray Franz ctatprr that .theAAC- should- be -the -only
attendees debating an issue.
Action: Jerry- Robinson- matte- a -motion -to- have a period -for public -comment before
the business items on the agenda and a short comment period before each item so
the-AAC can clarify an -issue. Cordon -Eccles -seconded the motion and the motion
passed. The Airport Manager will change the Agenda format to include a period for
public -comment_.
Public Comment Period:
Mike -Dorris-- The-AAC Missicn- Statement- says -the- owners -can- have -a delegate
involved in the meetings. He signed a copy of an agreement with the City to
monitor -the -UNICOM-and- wanted a-copy-frornthe -Airport Manager. He -asked
about a plan for the Hwy 55/Deinhrad-intersection change but never received a
copy. Hefeels heis-withnut proper arccss and -the -public cant getto-thebackside
of his hangar. He noted there used to be signs up that stated vehicles were not
allowed on He-ackeri thePublicWorks Director why theflrehydrant
directly behind his hangar was removed. He was told more were nearby. He wants
the -City to put the -hydrant back. He -feels that the Fire Dept. would have -to - drag a
hose across the road and snow. Snow between the Hwy and the building could
cause a problem. He-hastalked-to- IDT and -the -State- Division -of Aeronautics -about
the issue.
Pat -Doris-- Could not believe the hydrant had -been -removed. Hewanted-to-know
what we are protecting. He feels his insurance will go up.
Airport-Managers-lrpdate• The Airport Manager noted--that-FBO- owners -can- now
be on the AAC and the "delegate" language was removed in the new AAC Charter.
The Airport Manager rlicrticcnrt-the-futuresaleof MATCO to_ Mr. Woodwoorth-with
the City Manager and the City Manager felt that it wouldn't be in the best interest of
the -City_ to. sign -an -agreement with a -company that was being -sold. -The -Airport
Manager will reimburse MATCO a pro -rated amount for UNICOM services and the
City -wilt enter into a- new agreementWit1i the- new -owners. The -Airport -Manager
wasn't part of the decision making process to remove the fire hydrant. He did note
that the-Public-Works-Directorhad- diem t -this-with theFireDept and -it was felt
that the newer hydrants would provide better coverage. The old hydrant wasn't
repairable -and had an -inadequate line. LoriMacNichol-asked-the Airport-Magager
to contact the Fire Chief to confirm that he was involved with the removal. Jerry
Robinson -asked -the -Airport Manager to put Bill Keating, PublicWorks,.on- tine_ next
agenda to discuss the drainage and hydrant issues at the next meeting. The
Airport -Manager Briefed theAAC on -the -audit and -expects the -final- report from last
fiscal year to be completed by Dec. The Airport Manager gave the AAC a copy of a
fuel farm- design -that-Tray Teton wouldtike.to-install-if he purchases Pioneer_ The
information was not a proposal and only informational.
Action: The Airport- Manager will- attempt- to- put -the- Public Works-DirectorOpthe
next -agenda_
Public Comment: Woody Woodworth questioned the idea of having another fuel
farm. He -felt it would be-too-rnnrcntrntPrtandnot_in- thebestinterest ofthe-airport.
He thinks it would make a situation worse before better. Lori MacNichol pointed out
theta new locationwould have to_ be_reviPwMd Ray Franz anted it was only
informational and would have to be placed on the next agenda.
I pace Transfer MATCO-1lUaodworth:_ The -Airport Manager briefedtheAAC on
the proposed sale and lease transfer of MATCO to Woody Woodworth. Lod
MacNichol. asked Mike Donis to give_the_AAC specifics of the sale agreement and
how each party was going to meet the Minimum Standards. Mike Dorris explained
that-MATCO wouldnp rate, rent-free_forfiveyearc out of the -hark one-third of the
building. He explained that some remodeling would take place and a lobby for
MATCO-will.be.built Mike Donis_notedthatthe_building is large_ enough and
currently has four restrooms and can meet the square footage requirements.
Gordon Eccles -states that -the- purchase -agreement should ad& -t e-Minimum
Standards.
Actions Jerry Robinson made amotion to approve thetransfer and Ray Franz
seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved. The Airport
Manager will place the-IPasn transfer on -the next available City Council -agenda.
AAC Meeting Times: The AAC discussed changing the meeting time back to
noon.
Action:- Loa-MacNichol-made a-motioa-to_move-the. meeting -time -hark to_noon.
Gordon Eccles seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved.
Adiournment-
Lori MacNichol moved to adjoum. Gorden Eccles seconded and the meeting was
adjourned-at-7:59 PM.
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CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
October 4, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori- MacNicholcalled-the-meeting to order at 6-:O PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Merrill Saleen
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Doug Walberg
Pat Dorris
Mike Dorris
Chris Keith
Kathy Crowther
Jessica Crowther
Woody Woodworth
Minutes Of Previous Meetinu(s)
Lori MacNichol- moved to- approve -the minutes of Sept. 6, 2000. Ray Franz
seconded and the motion carried unanimously. The Airport Manager will correct
the spelling of Mike- Dorris'sname andaddJerry Robinson's comments about
Salmon Air parking.
Business
Salmon Air: The Airport Manager briefed -the AAC-on the status of the Salmon Air
hangar sale. The AAC and the Council approved the transfer of the lease,
however, Mr. Woodworth -andSalmon-Airfailed-to-reach an agreement and the
purchase is unlikely to take place. Salmon Air has signed a lease with a Zane
Mangum who planson storing automobiles in the -hangar. He is currently employed
by Salmon Air and assist with the flight operations. Lori MacNichol questioned if
this constitutes aviation activity and qualifies as an FBO. Pat Dorris stated that
Manchester's hangar is storage for the Shorelodge. Lori MacNichol would like to
see the lease between Zane Mangum and Salmon Air. The Airport Manager noted
that JoAnn Wolters -has stated she is -committed -to operating out of McCall and.
plans on continuing to fly over the winter. She doesn't want to create confusion and
will try to attend the next meeting. Mike -Dorris explained that -he -knows JoAnn
pays pilots as "contract labor" and a plane and pilot is supposed to be available.
Salmon Air should have plane and pilot -at -the -McCall Airport. Mike -Dorris would
also like to see proof that Zane is really an employee. Mike Dorris feels he is
running his business according -to the -rules -and would like to -see -others -do -the,
same. Woody Woodworth thinks the AAC can define "use" and it would be easy to
calculate 50% use. Lori- MacNichol-thinkscars-should not be in-the.hangar due, to
the short supply of hangar space during the winter. Merrill Saleen would like to see
if the primary purpose could_bedefined Woody Woodworth noted thatSalmon Air
never advertised for aircraft use and tumed down his offer to purchase. Jerry
Robinson noted that -Salmon -Air has -no -parking -for- customers. Mike -Dorris thinks
JoAnn Wolters should have to demonstrate that she has enough space to park
cars. Merrill Saleen- noted -that. it- should -be -up -to -the- business -to -decide -if thayiave
enough space to park cars.
Action-: The Airport Manager will- contact -Salmon -Air and request further
explanation on the lease issues.
UNICOM.Usage Lori- MacNichol -is concernedabout thelackof professionalism
during UNICOM transmissions. She thinks that a great deal of the activity is
unrelated to -flight safety and advisories. She_ has heard on several -occasions'
discussions that were dispatch related and beyond the information that should be
transmitted -on- UNICOM. Jerry Robinson -likes -to -listen to the FBO'sdispatch
because he knows where they are going. He doesn't see any problem. Ray Franz
feels -everyone should operate -within -the -rules -for safety reasons Pat _Dorris -doesn't
see a problem. He noted that a lot of unnecessary chatter takes place between
tower controllers.and-student. pilots.- HeatatPrl-that as an FBO McCall Air Taxi tries
to go to 122.9 when 122.8 is busy. He doesn't want to switch the radios from 122.8
to 122.9. Mike Dorrishasn't_heard -of_ any complaints -and the employees -handling
the radio have improved. Merrill Saleen thinks the AAC should look at FANFCC
requirements. Hethinks-McCall-AirTaxi-should-look at obtaining aseparate,
frequency and radio. Mike Dorris thinks pilots appreciate McCall Air Taxi but they
will switch to another frequencyfor dispatch, Jerry Robinsonuses-the-frequencyas
sort of a dispatch so they know where he is going. Mike Dorris stated McCall Air
Taxi would be more_ditigent_ Lori MacNichol-thankedeveryonefor his -or her input.
Ray Franz thinks the local FBO should consider their own discrete frequency.
Potential Sale otCity-Hangar:_TheAirport-Manager discussed.the-potentiaLsale
of the City owned building he is currently located in. He noted that revenue will be
needed for future projectsand-the-building-andassociatedspace-around-it are
underutilized. The location is one of the few spots that have sewer and water
hook-up availableforapotential-FBO_ He explainedthat many restrictions -would
be placed on the sale. The potential owners would have to allow the fire truck to
remain until the -new Fire -Station -is -built -and -the -Airport Managerwouldhaveto be
provided an office. Approximately 30,000 square feet wouldalsohave-to-be_
leased. This would not include -any -of the -jet -ramp -area. He explained thatthe
Master Plan shows the future terminal area as south of the USFS location or south
of theexistinghangars_ dealt Robinson_thinks this.would eliminate future terminal
near the jet ramp. The Airport Manager explained this would be a poor location for
a terminal due to -the close -proximity -of Deinhard-and the business acrossthe.
street. Mike Dorris thinks the Manchester hangar should be moved and a terminal
should be put in itspjprP LoriMacNichotalso noted the potentiaLnoise_andsafety
problems with this location. Pat Dorris thinks the sell would restrict future tarmac
use and would only be -a -short -term -solution, Chris Keith stated he wanted this.area
for building but was tumed down and now it appears to be going to the highest
bidder_ The AirportManager noted.thatthe Request For Proposals will be a_value-
added bid and it will go to the overall best package and will not be based solely on
the highest bid.- Mike_Doatsaskad MerriltSaleen if the City can-selLa-hangar that
had belonged to the USFS. Merrill Sateen stated that the USFS abandon the
building andgave_ ittathe City_ He said the USFS_would haven objectionsas
long as the fire trucks were available. Merrill Saleen explained how the USFS pays
the City for services. Healsostated-he-couldsee-no-reason-why-theCity couldn't
sell the building.
Actions The -AirportManager.will_keep_thaAAC_informed-of futuredevelopmeents.
Other Business: Lori MacNichol asked the AAC if they thought the AAC should
switch back to noon -meeting -time -during -winter months. Lori-MacNichol-mad! a
motion to switch back to noon. The motion failed and Merrill Saleen suggested the
AAC-consider this_nextrnoth.
Adjournment_
Merrill Saleen moved to adjoum. Lori MacNichol seconded and the meeting was
adjoumedat7:31 PM.
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September 6,, 2000
Call To-OrderAnd-Members Present
Committee Chairperson_Lori_MacNichoLcalled-themeeting to order_at_6.00 PM.
Members Present
Lon MacNichol
Gordon Eccles
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manger)
Doug Walhberg
Mike Anderson
Steve Conley
Mike Dorris
Minutes Of Previous Meetings)
Lori MacNichol maved_ta approve the minutes_of Aug 2, 2000_ Ray Franz
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager Update:ThaAirportManager briefed the AAG on the Rotting
Beacon repairs. The parts were custom ordered and installed. This should make
the beacon more reliable. LorLMacNichoLasked.if the parking lot. would be_paved
this fall. The Airport Manager explained that the funding was not available but he
hoped he could pave in the spring. The_AirportManager invited everyone in
attendance to come to the 2001 Family Fly -In planning meeting on the 121h of Sept.
at 3:00pm. Jerry Robinson questioned if had adequate parking and
meets the minimum standards. The Airport Manager pointed out that the AAC had
approved the lease and_iLmeets-the minimum- standards.
SnowCross Event: The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on problems
encountered at last years event. There -was -inadequate parking, safety leci iPs and
a shortage of personnel available to monitor and police the event. The Airport
Manager proposesthat theevent be -held along the -river bottom property owned by
the City of McCall. He explained that the new City Manager was not opposed to
the event moving-to-thissite.. The AirporLManagerthinks it would bea-more
appropriate location for the event. Dan Wilson gave the AAC a brief on the
Snowcross Committee'splansto-correctthedeficiencies that arose attest year's
event. He plans on having more fencing, flagging, and personnel available. He
also stated that planshavebeen.made-to-park_carsin Shavers.parking_lot_ Lori
MacNichol reminded the AAC that last year's event was a one time only approval to
see if it was feasible. Darr Wilson-toldthe-AAC_he-could reimburse for any
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additional cost. Mike Dorris had some hardship with the event but felt it was good
for the community. Healso pointed-outthatthe-money would makeits-waythrough
the community. He stated if you could mark the money you would be amazed how
it would travel from-business-to_businessr The -Airport Manager asked_Dan-Wilson
to put together a proposal for the event to be held down by the river. The Airport
Manager stated he wouldhelp_the eventorganizersto get approvaLfrom-the City
Council to move the event. Dan Wilson stated he would put together a proposal
and he thought thenew locationcouldpotentially_be.ideal.
Action: The Airport Manager will work with the event organizers to gain approval
before winter season.
Lease Extensions -for. Lots:_ TheAirportManager:briefed the-lack_of progress
dealing with construction of hangars on lots leased by Stephen Conley, Jack
Magee, and Mike Anderson. The AAC's extension for construction is Oct 1 s`, 2000.
The Airport Manager.explained-that allthe. individuals involved have beenkeeping
him informed of their plans but none have started any type of construction. Steve
Conley stated he_wouldlke_an extension_ He has -spent $7,000. inleasepayments
already but can't afford to start construction until next spring. Lori MacNichol asked
if Mr. Conley had_plans_focthe_hangar_ Hegtatedhe.did not have_any.drawings.
The Airport Manager recommended an additional one-year extension. Gordon
Eccles wanted to knowwhatwasdiscussedlastyear. Mike Anderson explained.
what was discussed last year. Mike Anderson had leased his lot but built on several
other lots for Tom_Wnoten_ Mike-Andersonhas_purchased one of Mr_Wooten's
hangars and would like an extension so he can transfer his lot lease to another
individual. Steve_ .Conley understandsthatheisfaced with a deadline_ Ray Franz
asked Mike Anderson if he was going to build on his lot. Mike Anderson may build
and sell to anotherindividnal or.transferthelease_-Mike Anderson also_explained
the sewer situation and how it had an impact on his decision to build. Ray Franz
appreciated Mike Anderson candorwith-.the_AAC but noted he should. build.. Lori
MacNichol made a motion to extend until July 1, 2001. Ray Franz recommends
June 1, 2001. Mike_Anderson.pointed_outthatthe-ground might be too wetin June.
Mike Anderson suggested that the leases give proof to the committee that they will
build by June 1, 2001..Ray Franz-feltthatbuilding..permits and plans -should be
submitted by the 1s` of June as significant proof. Lori MacNichol thought permits by
June 1s` were a god idea. Gordon Eccles thought it may be unrealistic to expect
construction to start by the 1st of June and would like the date to be July 1s`. Mike
Anderson suggested that June 1s` was a date that "compelling evidence" could be
given to the AAC that-wouldshow the individuaLwas serious about building -next
summer. Lori MacNichol madethe following motion_ 'To extend the leases in
question until June 1, 20001. The leaseholders will have to submit to the AAC
compelling evidence -that construction will -begin and significant progresswill be
made before summers end. Building permits and designs with contracts will be
submitted to the AAC prior to June 1st, 2001 ". Gordon Eccles seconded the
motion.
Other Business:- Jerry Robinson wanted if the Public Works -Dept could
crack seal the taxiways. The Airport Manager replied that the Public Works Dept.
does not have the material_or budget -for that. The Airport Managerstated, that
$15,000 is budgeted in the Airport Fund for crack seal next year and that bid
proposals will be solicitedthis-winter. Mike -Anderson felt that the reduction in
property tax allocation to the Airport Fund was a raw deal.
Adjournment.
Lori MacNichol moved to adjoum. Gordon Eccles seconded and the meeting was
adjourned _at-7:30 PM.
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CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Aug 2, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:05 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Gordon Eccles
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Doug Walberg
Linda Walberg
Kathy Crowther
Dexter Woodworth
Minutes Of Previous Meetings
Lori MacNichol moved to approve the minutes of June 7, 2000. Ray Franz
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager Update: The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on the Fly -In
preparations. The website has many "hits" and many visitors are registering on-
line. Eight port-o-potties and several dumpsters are will be available for the
primitive campground. The Airport Manager expects 250-350 aircraft and 500-1000
visitors. The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on the 2001 budget process. He
explained that the deficit in the airport fund has gone from $166k to $33k and he
expected to pay this off with the increase in revenues, however, the budget
recommended by the City Manager will cover $10k towards the deficit and
reallocates property taxes which has the net effect of offsetting the additional
revenues. Jerry Robinson explained the original intent of the County Airport Tax
levee and how it is supposed to be used by the City for AIP projects. The Airport
Manager explained that the levee is simply used as operating revenue and never
really earmarked for AIP projects. Lori MacNichol asked for an explanation on the
property tax allocation to the airport fund. The Airport Manager explained that it is
arbitrary and set by the City Manager and the Council and he didn't understand how
the actual allocation formula is derived. Jerry Robinson wanted to know about
future grants. The Airport Manager explained that the City Grant Writer position is
being reviewed and may be eliminated. The Airport Manager would like to pave
the parking lot during the Hwy 55 intersection construction but he doubts funds
would be released by he Council for this improvement.
Woodworth FBO Lease: The Airport Manager explained the sale and transfer of
Salmon Air hangar to Dexter Woodworth. Mr. Woodworth explained to the AAC that
he intends to slowly bring his business on-line as a full service FBO. He plans on
selling fuel as soon as the logistics are worked out. Lori MacNichol excused herself
from voting due to potential conflict of interest. Ray Franz made a motion to
recommend to the City Council approval of the lease transfer. Gordon Eccles
seconded the motion. The motion passed.
Action: The Airport Manager will place the lease approval on the next available
City Council meeting.
Other Business: The Airport Manager explained a potential safety violation
involving an Earth Search Science aircraft with a fuel leak. The incident was
passed to the FAA and an investigation will take place. Jerry Robinson noted that
the airport needs to have one location on the field for a fuel farm.
Adjournment
Lori MacNichol moved to adjoum. Gordon Eccles seconded and the meeting was
adjoumed at 1:08 PM.
CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
June 7,-2000-
Ca11 To Order AndMembers Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:04 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Merrill Saleen
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe. (Airport Manager)
Doug Walberg..
Mike Anderson
Mike Doris
Minutes Of Previous Meetinq(s)
Lori MacNichol moved to approve the minutes of May 3, 2000. Ray Franz
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager Update: The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on the sale of
topsoil to Tom Meckel. Mr. Meckel has already purchased $2,000 worth of the soil
and plans on purchasing an additional $4,000 over the next year. The soil is
leftover from the last AIP project. The revenue will help cover Fly -In cost. The
Airport Manager explained the controversy over the FAA providing a Control Tower
for the Fly -In. The Airport Manager told the FAA that they will have to provide it or
we couldn't host the Fly -In. The Airport Manager expects that one will be provided.
The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on the Fly -In temporary campground and he
hopes this will be a success that will motivate the Council to approve a permanent
campground in the future.
DEW Aircraft Lease: The Airport Manager explained the sale and transfer of
Pioneer Aviation hangar to DEW Aircraft. Kurt Braun will continue to lease the area
around the fuel tanks and sub -lease it to MATCO. DEW Aircraft will lease the
hangar and the majority of the ground on a new FBO lease. Ray Franz made a .
motion to recommend approval of the lease to the Council. Merrill Saleen seconded
the motion and it passed unanimously.
Action: The Airport Manager will place the lease approval on the next available
City Council meeting.
Other Business: The Airport Manager explained his concem that the USFS lacked
the ability to tow aircraft. This limits the use of the Jet Ramp when USFS aircraft
are propositioned on the ramp duringbusy weekend operations and limits parking
for other aircraft. The Airport Manager recommends the USFS acquire a tug with
the capacity to tow the aircraft. Merrill Saleen explained that the aircraft are
contract and they may have a problem obtaining the tug and the required tow bars.
The Airport Manager will check to see if a tugis available on the airport that has the
capacity to move the larger aircraft. Jerry Robinson stated the City needs to start a
dialogue with Judd DeBoer regardingfuture P&Z as well as airport expansion. The
Airport Manager will relay to the City Planner a need to provide Judd DeBoer with
the planning information.
Adiournment
Merrill Sateen moved to adjoum. Ray Franz seconded and the meeting was adjoumed
at 1:00 PM.
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CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
May 3, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:12 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
AlerrilrSaleerr-
Ray Franz
Gordon Eccles
Jerry Robinson
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Doug Walberg
Linda Walberg
Hugh McNair
Mike Anderson
Mike Doris
Minutes Of Previous Meetinq(s)
Ray Franz moved to approve the minutes of April 5, 2000. Gordon Eccles
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager Update: The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on different
methods to protect the airport from future encroachment and noise complaints. He
explained that a combination of zoning ordinances, building codes, real estate
disclosure statements, aviation easements, and other state zoning laws could be
used. He will continue to work on the best approach for the future of the airport.
The reserved tiedown spots have been stenciled and the taxiways leading into them
have been stenciled with an 8ft stencil. The Airport Manager hopes this will help
eliminate confusion during busy summer weekends. The planning for the Fly -In this
summer continues and a planning meeting with the FAA and the Chamber is
scheduled for June 30t. The FAA will also conduct a Safety Seminar at the Middle
School in the evening. The Airport Manager explained the requirement to publish
an RFP in the paper to solicit for the UNICOM agency agreement. He will update
the AAC at the next meeting. The Airport Manager explained a plan by the McCall
PD to place a semi -permanent impound lot behind the hangars next to the Citizens
lot.
Compass Pad Location: The Airport Manager explained that the 99's have
volunteered to paint a large compass rose on the ramp. All materials will come from
the airport budget. The Airport Manager requested the AAC review the airport
layout plan and select a location. The Airport Manager also explained that the
compass calibration requirements, outlined in AC 150/5300-13, could not be met at
any location other than an isolated area. The compass rose could be used for a
cross check but will not be certified. The AAC reviewed the airport layout plan and
selected a location on the jet ramp near the departure end of Rwy 16
Action: The Airport Manager will mark the location. Prior to the 99's arrival.
Other Business: Doug Walberg gave the AAC a quick brief on his pending
purchase of Pioneer Aviation. He will be requesting a new lease as soon as the
sale is complete. He explained that Kurt Braun would continue operating the fuel
farm with his relationship with MATCO. The Airport Manager explained how the
leased area was surveyed and divided. Jerry Robinson expressed concern that
the fuel farm should be relocated due to congestion in the ramp area.
Adjournment
Ray Franz moved to adjoum. Gordon Eccles seconded and the meeting was adjoumed
at 1:00 PM.
CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
April 5, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Acting Chairperson Memll Sateen called the meeting to order at 12:05
PM.
Members Present
Merrill Sateen
Ray Franz
Gordon Eccles
Jerry Robinson
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Marilyn Arp
Jack Magee
Mike Doris
Minutes Of Previous Meetinq(s)
Ray Franz moved to approve the minutes of March 1, 2000. Gordon Eccles
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager Update: The Airport Manager briefed a request from Carl
Johnson to conduct Part 135 helicopter operations during the summer months. Mr.
Johnson operates a Bell 47 and his primary focus would be tourist flightseeing. The
Airport Manager explained he would have to enter into some type of agreement
with one of our FBOs and meet the insurance requirements. He would also need
approval from the AAC and the City Council before conducting operations. Jack
Magee expressed concern about helicopter wake turbulence and light aircraft. He
will provide an article on the wake turbulence issues for the AAC. Merrill Saleen
wants to ensure a passenger and feasibility study be conducted and the operation
is reviewed by the AAC. The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on the new sign
installation on the City hangar. This should help customers locate the Airport
Managers office. The Airport Manager explained the Public Works schedule for
sweeping the airport surfaces. Chris Keith will be moving to Hawaii and vacating
Salmon Air's hangar. The NDB went out but the phone lines from the NDB to
Valley County dispatch had been changed without anyone knowing it. The new
number has been programmed into the AutoDial feature. The locks need to be
repaired and some general house cleaning done.
Runway Safety Area: The Airport Manager briefed the AAC on runway incursions
and the FAA's efforts to reduce the number of incursions. A runway incursion can
involve an aircraft, vehicle, or person. Under Title 14 Part 139 requirement for
certification the airport must take steps to prevent runway incursions. This can be
accomplished using signs or security fencing. When operations in the RSA take
place vehicles and personnel are required to have two-way radio communication
and be trained in airport operations. The emphasis is to maintain a sterile
environment for aircraft operations. The Airport Manger noted that people do walk
across the runway and ride bikes on the runway. The Airport Manager wanted to
bring this potential safety hazard to the MC attention and solicit the MC advice
and suggestions. Ray Franz asked what had been done to enforce the rules. The
Airport Manager stated has asked the individuals to stay off of the runway but they
have ignored his request. Jerry Robinson wanted to know about the track team
running on the airport. The Airport Manager explained that the track team used only
the ramp area and is currently using the track. Jerry Robinson stated he hadn't
heard of any close calls. The Airport Manager noted that we shouldn't wait until we
have an accident to enforce a required FAA policy. The Airport Manager thinks the
goal should be prevention. Merrill Sateen thinks there should be some reasonable
policy for people to transit the property. Ray Franz thinks this could be a serious
problem. Gordon Eccles wanted to know what options we have to enforce the
policy and what repercussion we could expect from the FM. The Airport Manager
stated he hasn't discussed the problem in detail with the FM. Ray Franz
suggested the police could talk to the individuals and some one could have the
potential to be harmed and this would reflect on the airport and the City of McCall.
Merril Saleen thought authorized people could have a radio issued to them. The
Airport Manager pointed out that Title 14 Part 139 doesn't give you that option and
aircraft aren't required to even have a radio in order to operate at the airport. Mike
Doris stated he doesn't get a report on runway conditions in the winter and he drive
out on the runway to check it. Mike Doris stated a section of a deer's backbone was
on the runway for last ten days and he finally picked it up. He also stated that
someone has to look at the runway once in awhile. The Airport Manager explained
that he was up and down the runway at least a dozen times during the last week
repairing lights. He doesn't doubt the bone was there but noted that it is very
possible he missed it. Mike Doris stated he was curious if anyone would pick it up.
The Airport Manager felt he should have been called and this showed a lack of
concern for the safety of the pilots. Merrill Saleen stated he did not fully understand
the issue before the MC. The Airport Manager explained that as the Airport
Manager he is required to report a safety hazard to the MC and the City Manager.
He stated that it is up to the AAC to do what ever they feel is required to address
the problem. If they feel it presents no problem then they can state so. The Airport
Manger noted that pedestrians can walk on Deinhard Lane and there is no need for
them to be on the runway. Merrill Saleen noted that perhaps these individuals have
airport business and could cross with a radio. He thinks some form of authorization
could be given. Jerry Robinson noted that most of the people who use it are pilots
and he isn't worried about it. Jack Magee noted it isn't a hazard if the individuals
keep their eyes and ears open. Gordon Eccles had a question about the bike
riding and if the individuals were riding on the taxiway or runway. Gordon Eccles
noted that the airport isn't a recreational facility and it is unacceptable for an
individual to ride on the runway. Ray Franz felt the airport is for airport activities
and should not be used for bike riding and jogging. Merrill Saleen would like the
Airport Manager to look at ways to authorize people to cross the runway and if the
Airport Manager feels it is inappropriate that he shouldn't authorize it. Marilyn Arp
noted that we should enforce what we have. Mike Doris noted that fuel trucks have
to cross. Gordon Eccles stated it is the recreational activities that should be
restricted. Mike Doris pointed out that a portion of the jet ramp may be inside of the
RSA.
Action: The Airport Manager will conduct more research.
Other Business: Jerry Robinson asked about the City Comp Plan and if anything
was being done to protect the airport from development around the airport. The
Airport Manger will attend the public hearing on the 25th and coordinate with the
City Planner to include the airport in the Comp Plan. Jerry Robinson wanted to
know what we are going to do to get the sewer finish. Marilyn Arp noted that
$50,000 per year is being set aside for the project by the City Council. The Airport
Manager explained that Carl Augustine wasn't as hopeful in obtaining a grant
because Earth Search Science was interested in building a facility at the airport.
Adjournment
Gordon Eccles moved to adjourn. Ray Franz seconded and the meeting was adjourned
at 1:35 PM.
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AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
12:00 PM. (Noon) WEDNESDAY, April 5, 2000
City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park St.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Call to Order
BUSINESS
- Minutes Dated March 1, 2000
- Airport Manager Update
- Runway Safety Area
Other Business
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CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
March 1, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:05 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Gordon Eccles
Merrill Saleen
Ray Franz
Jerry Robinson
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Mike Doris
Minutes Of Previous Meetinq(s)
The Airport Manager explained that he is transcribing the minutes from the tape
and the minutes are significantly longer. He used to paraphrase the minutes.
Merrill Saleen questioned if the AAC wants this style since the discussions are
sometimes lengthy and perhaps the AAC should simply mention highlights and
decisions. Lori MacNichol asked the Airport Manager if he planned on
continuing typing such lengthy minutes. The Airport Manager stated he has
received criticism that past minutes didn't include all remarks from the public
audience. He did mention that the minutes belong to the AAC. Jerry Robinson
stated that people have had problems in the past making comments and nobody
would pay attention to them. Lori MacNichol moved to approve the minutes of
February 2, 2000. Merrill Saleen seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager Update: The Airport Manager gave an after action report on the
Snowcross. There were no thefts or fights or any other conflicts during the event.
He explained that parking was at maximum capacity and the parking plan would
have to be reviewed if the event is held at the airport next year. The Airport
Manager briefed the AAC on the status of the radio for the plow truck. Everyone
thought the price was too high and the Airport Manager will do more research and
try to locate a less expensive radio for replacement.
Boat Trailer Parking: The Airport Manager asked the AAC to consider the boat
trailer parking issue. He explained the liability issues if the airport has a sign that
"solicits" boat trailer parking. The AAC requested the Airport Manager remove the
"Boat Trailer Parking " sign and replace it with a "Park At Own Risk" sign. The AAC
would like to continue to allow the trailers to park in the area since the City doesn't
provide public parking.
Action: The Airport Manager will notify the local marinas and advise them that
trailers are still welcome but they park at own risk. The trailer will need a valid
license plate.
Other Business: The Airport Manager gave the AAC a copy of the FAA grant
assurances. He explained the change from the enterprise fund to a special fund
and any revenue generated by the airport must stay in the airport fund. The Airport
Manager will try to find out the status of the fund. Jerry Robinson asked how long
it takes to get grant money for AIP projects. The Airport Manager explained the
process and the lack of current funding due to AIR 2000 appropriation still unsigned
and in congressional committee. Merrill Saleen expressed concem that the City of
McCall may not be able to fund the next project and we should not apply until we
have the matching funds. Lori Mac Nichol asked the Airport Manager about his
vehicle situation. The Airport Manager explained that PW took the pick-up truck
back to PW for use by the PW mechanic. The Airport Manager is going to repair
the Parks & Rec. Bronco for his use. Jerry Robinson expressed concem that P&Z
is evaluating developments that may have an impact on the airport and this needs
to be addressed. He feels the AAC must decide if the airport should be developed
on the east or west side. Jerry Robinson thinks the AAC should start working on
obtaining grants for the sewer system at the airport. The Airport Manager explained
that the city has a grant writer who is developing a possible grant application based
on economic development. Jerry Robinson pointed out that the number of
corporate jets was increasing in number and the AAC needs to start planning for
the future. The Airport Manager mentioned the new comprehensive plan and the
airport is part of the plan.
Adiournment
Merrill Saleen moved to adjoum. Ray Franz seconded and the meeting was adjoumed
at 1:00 PM.
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CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
February 2, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:04 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Mike Anderson
Rick Fereday
Ray Franz
Merrill Saleen
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Marilyn Arp
Chris Keith
Mike Doris
Pat Doris
Gordon Eccles
Scott Findley
Neil MacNichol
Minutes Of Previous Meeting(s)
Rick Fereday moved to approve the minutes of January 5, 2000. Mike Anderson
seconded and the motion canied unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager update: Mike Doris asked the AAC if he could see a copy of the
minutes before the AAC approves them. Marilyn Arp explained that the approval of
the minutes is up to the AAC. Merrill Saleen felt everyone should have the
opportunity to review the minutes before approval. Marilyn Arp stated that the
problem with releasing the minutes before the are approved is people think the
minutes are official and copies could be made. Pat Doris feels some things have
been intentionally left out of past minutes and wanted to record the AAC meetings.
All members of the AAC agreed the public could record the meeting.
The Airport Manager met with Jeff Lapin, Valley County Health, investigated a
complaint regarding washing of vehicles at the Salmon Air hangar. After meeting
with Chris Keith at the hangar, Jeff Lapin had no problem regarding the washing of
the vehicles. DEQ was also advised and concurred with Jeff Lapins' assessment.
The volume and drainage was adequate for the amount of washing activity. Both
Jeff Lapin and DEQ recommend that a wash rack be installed if future demand
exceeds capacity. The Airport Manager could not find any safety issues involving
the washing of the vehicles. The Airport Manager felt a wash rack could pay for
itself with a small fee. Mike Anderson thinks a wash rack with a grease trap would
be a wonderful idea. Merrill Sallen asked Chris Keith what trucks are being
washed. Chris Keith explained part of his business is to wash the UPS trucks.
Chris Keith stated he has ordered new biodegradable detergent.
The Airport Manager briefs the AAC on a noise complaint filed by Bryant Wilson.
Mr. Wilson lives on Johnson Lane and stated aircraft have been flying low over his
house. He plans on video taping the aircraft and using a laser rangefinder to
determine the altitude. Mr. Wilson had contacted the FAA and the FAA told him the
aircraft should be 500ft AGL above his house. The Airport Manager had explained
to Mr. Wilson about the instrument approach and how it may be possible these
aircraft were on that approach.
The Airport Manager briefs the AAC on the changes to the City of McCall website
and the addition of an airport section to that site. Mark Renner is assisting with the
creation of the airport pages. The cost should go down and service should
improve. Mike Anderson made several suggestions for links to the website. The
Airport Manager will incorporate the links.
The Airport Manager reported on the Snowcross race preparations. The club has
met the insurance requirements and the City Attorney reviewed the policy. The
event organizers, for crowd and automobile control, will hire additional police.
The Airport Manager explained that he had heard a rumor that LifeFlight would not
be coming to McCall during winter. He explained that this rumor is false. The
Airport Manager contacted Russell Rodgers, Director of Operations, and Mr.
Rodgers stated the rumor in question was not true. The Flight Information
handbook does state that the airport may be closed at night after periods of snow.
LifeFlight can't land unless they have verification on the runway condition. This is
an insurance requirement. Mr. Rodgers is not aware of any pilot having a problem.
Several members of the AAC asked if there was a way to report the snow depth.
The Airport Manager explained that it would require 24hr service. The Airport
Manager also asked Mr. Rodgers if anyone had not been MEDEVAC due to the
inability to monitor and report the snowfall 24hrs. Mr. Rodgers stated to his
recollection that had never occurred. Pat Doris stated that a pilot for LifeFlight had
contacted the MATCO office and was told that a plow had been on the runway
earlier. The pilot landed and almost wrecked the aircraft because the depth of the
snow. Pat Doris stated his interpretation of the LifeFlight rules and explained that
LifeFlight is staying out of McCall at night. He thinks this isn't a good sanareio. The
Airport Manager expressed concem that maybe the policy that has been in place
may not be a good one. The Airport Manager feels we can improve the service
This would involve more money and a larger budget. Merrill Saleen felt that a
phone number could be available for them to call and it could improve the service
We could add an option to call a number to find out the runway condition. The
Airport Manager stated Public Works has a supervisor with a beeper on -call. The
Public Works Director would have to approve of such a plan. Mike Anderson
thinks we could establish an operations agreement directly with LifeFlight. Mike
Doris explained that the LifeFlight helos usually have to refuel prior to departure,
and the that fixed wing aircraft are a better choice. He also explained that LifeFlight
historically has contacted MATCO because they have been the most reliable
source to determine the runway condition. Ray Franz stated that the Flight
Information Handbook remarks also apply to helos and the FAA has been getting
more restrictive on LifeFlight operations. The Airport Manager will discuss the
snow removal issues with both the fixed -wing and helo LifeFlight operations. Mike
Doris feels the City of McCall should be obligated to plow the runway when a large
corporate jet or turbo -prop wants it plowed, even if there is only one inch of snow on
the runway. The Airport Manager explained that, prior to his arrival, the Public
Works policy was two inches before the runway would be plowed. The Airport
Manager said that anyone is welcome to contact Bill Keeting at Public Works for an
explanation. The Airport Manager also explained that the USArmy King Air aircraft
should not have landed in the first place if the felt they would then be unable to
depart. The Pilot in Command did not have to takeoff and it was his decision. The
Airport Manager did agree that we should be more customer oriented and may want
to improve service. The Airport Manager explained that Public Works will need
more money for personnel and fuel in order to provide that kind of service The
Airport Manager stated he "inherited" the two-inch rule. Rick Fereday stated it is a
fiscal policy and if we want to improve service we need to spend more. The Airport
Manager explained that we would have to keep the runway clearer in order to
provide service to large aircraft. Mike Anderson stated that 98% of the aircraft
have been able to live with the two inches of snow on the runway and we could
charge the others for additional plowing. Pat Doris stated he is in the fuel business
and many of the companies don't even bother coming to McCall in the winter. He
would like to be able to sell fuel to these companies. Pat Doris also stated the City
of McCall is collecting fuel flowage fees year round to support the airport and
wanted to know why we can't use the money for plowing. Pat Doris stated they
have gone over this issue for many years and it is unresolved. Pat Doris would like
to see the policy changed so that plowing will begin whenever it stops snowing. He
also explained that Cascades runway is down to asphalt everyday during the
winter. Rick Fereday felt that was an unfair comparison since the Cascade runway
is smaller and they get half as much snow as McCall. The Airport Manager isn't
happy with the two-inch rule. He explained that he has some recommended
changes to for next year's budget and for 6k in funds we could provide better
service by hiring two additional part-time crew dedicated to airport operations. He
thinks the revenue would offset the cost as more jet aircraft came to McCall.
Gordon Eccles stated that two inches of snow creates ruts and an unsafe situation.
Mike Anderson thinks the airport should not share with plowing operations with
Public Works but should have a dedicated plowing crew.
Airport Advisory Committee Charter: The Airport Manger presented his
proposed changes to the AAC charter. The Airport Manager would like the FBO's
to sit at the table but still be non -voting delegates. He thinks any FBO members
would have to excuse themselves from voting on any agenda item having to do with
money issues. The Airport Manager asked the AAC to draft a new charter based on
the old charter and his new proposed charter. Mike Anderson thinks some of the
language in the AAC "Duties" section is unnecessary. The Airport Manager stated
the language is taken directly out of the State Division of Aeronautics recommend
charter. The AAC agreed the language was not necessary. Mike Anderson stated
he liked the language change from FBO to businesses. He also felt that the ACC
has always given the FBO's ever opportunity to comment at past meetings. Chris
Keith stated he feels like he is in second grade because he has to raise his hand
and be acknowledged by the AAC before he can speak. If he were a delegate he
feels he would be more empowered. Mike Anderson then stated that not only the
FBO's but also all members of the public audience might have something at stake.
Mike Anderson feels the whole concept of non -voting delegates is flawed. He
thinks all AAC members should have a vote. The Airport Manager stated that it is
the AAC choice to adopt a new charter that they are happy with. The Airport
Manager stated it's not his committee and he does not want to continue to "guess"
the intent of the AAC and what they want in their committee. Rick Fereday wants
the draft of the new charter to read that the "Chairperson or a representative may
present an agenda item to the City Council when the Airport Manger disagrees with
the AAC". Ray Franz thinks the language is vague and to him it sounds like the
FBOs is to get together and select a member. Mike Doris didn't like the idea
because it could present a problem with conflict of interest among competitors.
Chris Keith stated it would be impractical to have FBOs vote and he thinks Lori
MacNichol's business makes her an FBO. He feels this has affected his ability to
obtain a lease. Mike Anderson didn't think Lori MacNichol being on the AAC had an
adverse effect on Chris Keith's attempt to acquire a lease. Mike Anderson stated
that Chris Keith's original request only mentioned engine rebuild and not aircraft
sales, flight instruction and other expanded FBO business. Lori MacNichol noted
that Chris Keith's original packet never mentioned the expanded FRO activities.
Chris Keith responded that they were discussed. Pat Doris stated that he
personally didn't care if he was on the AAC but he thinks the best -qualified person
should be on the AAC. Mike Anderson noted that there were never any restrictions
on FBO's being on the AAC but the interpretation was incorrect. Mike Doris stated
he was always under the assumption that FBOs could not be on the AAC. The
Airport Manager thinks the AAC has two choices, open it up to everyone or restrict
to membership those without businesses on the airport. Marilyn Arp thought the
number of openings to FBOs could be restricted. The Airport Manager thought
there could be a problem with a quorum. Mike Anderson wants all FBOs to receive
agenda and information packets. Rick Fereday made a motion to adopt the new
charter with changes as discussed. There was no second. Merrill Saleen does not
like the potential conflict of interest having FBOs and he noted that there was no
consensus among the FBOs. Mike Anderson wants the FBO's included in the
dissemination of information. Merrill Saleen wants the ACC to have a role in who is
on the committee. Mike Anderson feels the AAC can select the most qualified
candidates and let the City Council approve. Mike Anderson made a motion to
approve the changes and include anyone if they are the most qualified candidate.
Merrill Saleen seconded the motion. The motion was approved. Marilyn Arp wants
it documented in the minutes that FBO's are no longer excluded. Mike Doris wants
all draft minutes sent to FBOs so they can give input prior to the next minutes and
he also stated he has had problems obtaining them. The Airport Manager stated
since his arrival they have all been posted and are available form the City Clerk.
Action: The Airport Manager will place the new charter on the City Council
agenda.
Selection of new members: The Airport Manager asked the AAC to review the
packets and decide on a recommendation to take to the City Council. The Airport
Manager reviewed the individual packets with the AAC. He stated that they were all
good choices. Merrill Saleen recommended the AAC use a process similar to the
one the used for the selection off the Airport Manager and go into executive session
to select. The Airport Manager said he would put forth the AAC recommendations
but would supply the City Council with the resumes from all applicants. Mike
Anderson suggested the AAC pick two candidates and an altemate without ranking
the individuals in numerical order. The AAC went into executive session and
selected Gordon Eccles and Kurt Becker with Mike Anderson as the altemate.
Action: The Airport Manager will submit the AAC recommendation to appoint
Gordon Eccles and Kurt Becker with Mike Anderson as altemate. The Airport
Manager will place on the next City Council agenda.
Adjournment
Rick Fereday moved to adjoum. Merrill Saleen seconded and the motion carried
unanimously, The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 PM.
did
Secretary
MONTHLY FUEL FLOWAGE REPORT
DISTRIBUTOR: VALLEY OIL/LLC
REPORT FOR: February
(month)
The following fuel was delivered to the McCall Air Terminal in the name of the customers listed:
NON-EXEMPT EXEMPT
CUSTOMER GALLONS CUSTOMER
McCall Air Taxi 10,004
McCall Air Taxi 10,032
t AMENDED REPORT
Q
GALLONS
Total Non-exempt Fuel: 20,036 Total Exempt Fuel Delivered:
Times Fuel Flowage Fee: X $0.04
Total Fuel Flowage Due: $ 801.44 TOTAL FUEL DELIVERED: 20,036
Owner's/Corporate Officer's Certification: I hereby certify this report is a correct and true
accounting of the aviation fuel delivered to the McCall Air Terminal
Printed Name: Trina King Signed: got1a,a,um
Title: JR. TAX ADMINISTRATOR Dated: 3/15/00
t Check #74308 for $400.16 was sent on 3/10/00.
t The remainder was sent on 3/15/00 for the amount of $401.28, check # `I4528
• Report and payment due to City of McCall, 216 East Park St.,McCall, ID 83638, .
by the 10th of the following month.
Prepared by T. King
Schgdule
Page 1 of Pages
DaUing From: 2/01/00 Thru 2/29/00
P,rAluct Type Reported
FF/MCCALL
CITY OF MC CALL FLOWAGE FEE REPORT
DUE ON THE 10TH
Name VALLEY•,OILCOMPANY, LLC
License 000
FE,ME or TR No.
Date 3/15/00
Inv Date Invoice # Name of Carrier Name of Purchaser
Order # Manifest Number License
Origin Destination
(City/State) (City/State)
**** Invoice Amounts ****
Invcd-Gallons Total $ Tax $
908940 MCCALL AIR TAXI
2/18/00 000473989 BLUE & WHITE
210879 62268
2/23/00 000475810 BLUE & WHITE
211604 89957
70
MCCALL AIR TAXI
SALT LAKE
UT
Product Total: 70
90
MCCALL AIR TAXI
SALT LAKE
UT
Product Total: 90
Customer Total: 908940
Report Totals:
CITY MCCALL
ID
CITY MCCALL
ID
10004.000 15158.56 400.16
10004.000 15158.56 400.16
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10032.000 10824.53 401.28
10032.000 10824.53 401.28
20036.000 25983.09 801.44
20036.000 25983.09 801.44
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I CITY OF MC CALL
AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
January 5, 2000
Call To Order And Members Present
Committee Chairperson Lori MacNichol called the meeting to order at 12:10 PM.
Members Present
Lori MacNichol
Mike Anderson
Rick Fereday
Ray Franz
Memll Saleen
Attendees
Geoffrey Rowe (Airport Manager)
Marilyn Arp
Chris Keith
Mike Doris
Pat Doris
Jerry Robinson
Duane Smith
Gordon Eccles
Minutes Of Previous MeetinAis)
Lori MacNichol moved to approve the minutes of December 8, 1999. Merrill Saleen
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Business
Airport Manager update:
Geoffrey Rowe gave an update on the snowplowing activities. He explained that Public
Works was short of loaders and this had delayed snow removal from the runway. He also
briefed the AAC on the snow pile that had been discovered in the middle of the runway last
night. It appeared to have been placed directly in the middle of the runway running
perpendicular to the runway. He had no explanation for how it got there. He removed it with
the airport snowplow and NOTAM the runway closed. He then opened the runway the next
moming. He gave an update on the airport sewer grant project and process.
Airport Advisory Committee Requirements to Serve:
The Airport Manager gave the AAC a copy of the AAC Charter. The AAC discussed the
language of the charter and members gave their interpretation of the language. Mike y'L,��
Anderson belipts the current charter does not restrict an FBO from serving on the AAC. tatty Pzr
t pointed out that Lynn Clark had served on the committee. Mike Doris would like to
see FBOs have a voting position on the committee. Jerry Robinson would like to see the
seats on the AAC divided among various groups. He suggested FBO's, general aviation
pilots, leases holders as some possible groups to be represented on the committee. Merrill
Saleen felt that this would present conflict of interest problems and would tie the committee's
hands on many issues. Chris Keith asked the committee to extend the application deadline
for potential candidates to submit letters for consideration. Mike Anderson made a motion to
strike the following wording from the charter: 'Two Non Voting Delegates" and replace it with
"Delegates". Ray Franz seconded this and the motion carried.
Action: The AAC requested the Airport Manager submit an agenda bill with this wording
change to the charter. The Airport Manager will attempt to have the agenda bill on next
available council meeting.
Minimum Standards - Fuel Flowage Amendment:
The Airport Manager presented a proposal to change the fuel flowage section of the
Minimum Standards. He explained that the change would shift the fuel flowage payment
and documentation from the FBOs to the bulk distributor. This is becoming more common
among airports and the Airport Manager thinks it would give eliminate fuel flowage fee
documentation and collection problems. The Airport Manager recounted how the current
distributor reneged on a request to supply fuel flowage documentation voluntarily and there
exist no historical record other than payment submission on how much fuel is delivered to
the airport. The Airport Manager reiterated the importance for such data collection in order
to budget/plan and submit grant applications with accurate figures. The Airport Manager
had not received any documentation from MATCO since August. Pat Doris wanted to know
who was going to check nurse trucks that show -up at the airport and the Airport Manager
stated he would check them for payment. Pat Doris feels the fuel flowage would be a tax if
he has to carry the 4 cents per gallon until it is pumped into aircraft. Pat Doris also stated
the voters would have to decide if it is a tax. Pat Doris stated he the Airport Manager does
not need records of flowage from years past only the current year. Ray Franz stated from
his experience at the Boise airport, that this is a cost of doing business. Mike Anderson
suggested a reduction in the fuel flowage fee to help offset the shrinkage issue and the slow
winter sales issue. Lori MacNichol made a motion to adopt the change to the Minimum
Standards and require the distributor to remit the paperwork and fee. Ray Franz seconded
the motion and the motion was passed unanimously.
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Action: The Airport Manager will place the issue on the City Council agenda at the next
Available meeting.
Adjournment
Lori MacNichol moved to adjourn. Rick Fereday seconded and the motion carried
unanimously. The meeting was adjoumed at 2:50 PM.
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