HomeMy Public PortalAbout2006.12.07 AAC MinutesCity of McCall
Airport Advisory Committee
December 7th, 2006 — Minutes
The meeting was called to order at 1205 local with members Gordon Eccles, Dan
Scott, Jerry McCauley, and Chairman John Seevers present. Eric Hagen
(USFS) was absent. Additionally, Rick Harvey (Airport Manager) was present.
Public attendance comprised of 8 people.
Chairman's Comments: John Seevers began the meeting with an
overview of the AAC's charter stressing that the committee's role is advisory only
to the Airport Manager and the City Council. He then submitted that he wanted
to have Lori MacNichol's comments (compensation for use of the new taxilane by
non -east hangar owners) be moved from the Public Comment portion to new
business. At the conclusion of new business he wanted to have a discussion on
the status of the airport sewer.
Minutes:
➢ The minutes from the November, 2006, regular meeting, were reviewed
and approved.
Public Comment:
➢ AAC member, Jerry McCauley, submitted his resignation effective after
the January regular meeting. The chairman accepted his resignation
and several members, along with people in attendance, offered their
thanks for Mr. McCauley's dedication to the airport and the AAC.
Airport Manager's Report:
➢ Current Events:
• Next Report from Mead & Hunt (master plan)
- Tentative Dates (Sometime in January, awaiting for a date
from the city manager)
- Tentative Format — Discussed — Member Dan Scott felt that
there needed to be more time between the presentation(s)
to the AAC, PAC, City Council and members of the County
Commission and when the public workshop was held. The
Airport Manager agreed and said he would coordinate.
• Winter Operations - Status
- Equipment Maintenance/Upgrades:
(High speed plow blade upgraded with new skid plates and
blades, New Loader chains purchased and installed, Truck
chains repaired and installed)
Equipment Operations
(New articulated plow for loader is working out well)
Facilities Preparation — Ramp/EHP now being plowed
Crew Safety Training — Review Procedures (below), newly
designated airport maintenance operations person is to
conduct safety training (in accordance with program
currently used by Public Works)
Snow Plow Plan
Winter 2005/206 - Approved by AAC on 1 Dec 05
(2 Operators - Order of Events)
Updated for 2006/2007
▪ Night Before:
• Check Weather
• Determine Work Schedule
• Note: We will make every attempt to have the airport opened by daylight. Remember, as the
winter progresses the days become longer - therefore, you have to come in earlier to make
the open by daylight requirement.
Beginning of day (approximately 0530):
• Start Plow Oshkosh and Loader allow 30 minutes to warm-up - while warming,'
- Assess conditions
- Shovel out Back Door entry and Shop Entrance
- Decide who does what
• Plow Operator
> If snow is light:
- Now Runway as far to edges as possible
> If snow is deep / heavy:
Reverse Plow from as close to lights as possible
Center Plow to form two berms
- Blow berms with Oshkosh
With plow:
- Clear Main Taxiway to McCall Aviation
- Clear Area to Pioneer Hangar
- Clear Hangar Taxiways (plow or loader plow)
Loader (bucket) Operator
- Clear Entrance and Path through parking lot to McCall Aviation
- Clear remaining entrances and pathways
Clean-up North End of Runway 16
• Plow and Loader Snow Clean-up (between storms)
Transient Parking Area
- North Ramp Area
Runway Edges (blower as required)
Parking Lots
Miscellaneous Areas as required (blower as required)
South Taxiway Berms Pushed Back
End of Day:
• Refuel All Machines and Service:
- Check Engine Oil
Grease All Fittings
- Bleed Air Tanks
- Add Brake De-ice Fluid
Plug -In All Engine Block Heaters
• New Airport Manager — John Anderson
- Start Date —18 December
- Planned transition program that week
• Tentative Airport Maintenance/Operations Supervisor Program —
AJ is being "groomed" to take more of a leadership role in running
the day to day airfield maintenance
• New East Hangar Leases — Status — new lease master template in
place. Note: All people on the Airport Hangar Waiting List have
been contacted about the new hangars. There are 3 or 4 hangars
remaining in the EHP and therefore Hangar Solutions is ready to
offer hangars to people not on the original list. After some
discussion, it was agreed to have everyone/anyone interested in
purchasing one of the new hangars fill out the Hangar Waiting List
application along with submitting their $500 deposit. In doing so,
those individuals would comply with the "blanket' lease approval
authority approved by the City Council.
• Hangars 104 & 105 Leases/Realignments — Update — Survey
completed — awaiting drawings by T-O and then review and
approval by the AAC and City Council.
• LPV —Update — Grant applications have been done by T-O. They
are currently reviewing the survey procedures as outlined in the
appropriate Advisory Circulars.
• Hangar Holding Tanks — Note Letter Below:
Municipal Airport
November 24,2006
Airport Hangar Owners
McCall Airport
Ref: Sewage Holding Tanks
Dear Hangar Owner,
Several days ago I was contacted by the senior environmental specialist with the Central District Health
Department. He informed me that he had received information about a holding tank, to one of the private hangars,
overflowing and spewing sewage. Needless to say, he was rather concerned about this and briefed me on the
mandatory requirements for holding tank systems. I informed him that as of last summer we had initiated an
annual hangar inspection program, primarily for fire/safety compliances, and that we would be willing to add the
following to our inspection criteria:
All holding tank owners must be able to show their use permit from the Central District Health Department
All holding tanks must have an alarm system that signals when the tank is at 2/3's full capacity
The permit holder must be able to demonstrate that the alarm system functions properly
Please take the time to ensure that you are in compliance with the above and be prepared to show us your permit
and alarm system when we inspect your hangar again next summer. For more information please contact Jeffrey
Lappin, Central District Health Department, 630-8001. E-mail: jlappin@cdhd.idaho.gav
Sincerely,
Rick Harvey
Manager
Business:
➢ Min. Standards Committee: John Seevers gave an update and said that
a draft would be out soon.
➢ East Hanger Project - Update: Mike Anderson (Hangar Solutions) gave
and update. Hangar 206 was moved to its new location (now hangar 500)
and nearly all the paving is complete. The remaining will be done in the
spring when the temperatures get above 40 degrees. Dan Scott wanted
the Airport Manager to have a copy of the records from Hangar Solutions
indicating the notes on communication with those on the hangar waiting
list — (also, note EHP lease items above).
➢ Poston New Hangar Proposal — Kathy Poston presented a proposal
requesting to build another hangar on their existing leasehold with access
via the new taxilane built for the East Hangar Project. The AAC wanted to
see their proposal resubmitted, at a future meeting, utilizing the
procedures outlined in the new Proposal Application.
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➢ 1 Mike Anderson Proposal —Extension of existing hangar/by 5 eet to the
east. Extension of leasehold approximately 40 feet to the east for site
preparation and paving of new ramp. Access to the new ramp via the
south side of hangar by the new taxiway (at the location of former hangar
206). The AAC wanted this proposal broken up into two parts: 1) a
tentative approval for the building extension was granted, 2) a better
property description for a lease modification or a proposed license with the
city to pave over and to indemnify the property for the new ramp. To be
reviewed at a future meeting.
➢ East Taxilane Use/Access to non East Hangar Owners — Lori
MacNichol presented an objection made by several owners of the new
hangars in the east hangar project that proposed projects, such as the
Poston Proposal above, should pay some amount of compensation for
use of the new taxilane. Their argument was based on the breakdown of
cost by Hangar Solutions that the $140,000 price was the total of $90,000
for the hangar and $50,000 for the construction of the new taxilane.
Numerous people gave public comment including 4 of the new hangar
owners. Note: The Airport Manager received eight (e-mail) letters from
new hangar owners expressing their desire that they be reimbursed by
those outside the project who wish to use the taxilane. A lively discussion
ensued with Mike Anderson of Hangar Solutions arguing against the
comments made by the owners. His reasoning, and the AAC, on behalf of
the city, eventually agreeing with him, that the cost of the taxilane
construction was no different than any housing developer building a street
for his project, funded through the cost of each home, which would be
turned over to the city once completed. Frank Bruneel, one of the new
owners, said he wished to drop his protest and felt that the entire project
was an excellent example of private and city partnership in finally getting
more hangars built at the McCall Airport. Bill Boggess, another owner in
the east hangar project, also withdrew his protest. The AAC felt there was
nothing for the city to do at this time, that when the taxilane was turned
over to the airport (when the lease with Hangar Solutions is dissolved — ie;
when all the hangars are sold) the taxilane would be no different than any
other existing taxiway.
> Airport Sewer Problems Discussion — At the request of the Chairman,
the Airport Manager gave a brief synopsis of the sewer situation at the
airport. Basically, there is no way to have any sewer remedy for any new
structures, or existing structures that have yet to get a holding tank,
anywhere south of hangar 104, the end of the existing city sewer line. The
master plan draft, chapter 5, does not correctly define the problem. It says
that until the present "dry" sewer line (airport sewer project) is completed
new structures have to utilize holding tanks. The problem is that no
holding tank permits are being issued and the completion of the airport
sewer project is not on the city's list of capital projects. Therefore, any
growth or new development the master plan may identify in the future for
the airport cannot take place. Building permits cannot even be issued
unless a sewer hookup (or holding tank) is in hand. The Airport Manager
feels that the master plan needs to be the driving force in getting the
airport sewer project back in motion.
Adjournment - The meeting was adjourned at 1432 local
John Se vers
Chairman an
Rick Harvey, Airport Manager
City of McCall
Airport Advisory Committee
November 9th, 2006 — Minutes
The meeting was called to order at 1207 local with members Gordon Eccles, Dan
Scott, Jerry McCauley, and Chairman John Seevers present. Eric Hagen
(USFS) was absent. Additional persons were Rick Harvey (Airport Manager),
and Councilmember Don Bailey and Kevin Bissell (Airport Engineer). Public
attendance comprised of six people.
Minutes
➢ The minutes from the October, 2006, regular meeting, were reviewed
and approved.
Public Comment: None
Airport Manager's Report:
➢ Current Events:
• Report on Public Workshop (master plan) — Aftermath
- Creation of Airport Planning Links on Airport Web Site
Posting the "feed back' letters from the workshop (web site)
Creating a "City's Statement' (web site)
- Posting the Master Plan "Scope of Services" (web site)
• Winter Preparations
- Equipment — everything is good and ready to go
- Facilities Preparation — Obstacles flagged
Crew Safety Training — In progress
- John Ugland starts on the 13th
• Gate maintenance — Update: Recommend that the manufacturer
be brought to McCall in the spring to go through all the gates and
reset to factory specifications
• New Airport Manager Selection Process — Update, down to two
people.
• Aircraft Mishap— Oct 12th?? - Airport maintenance worker found 3
broken runway edge lights with evidence of someone making
some attempt to clean up the debris. Nobody knows what
happened!
➢ Miscellaneous
• LPV approach — FAA is funding with both AIP and State
apportionment money. A Conference call is going to be scheduled
next week with airport manager, FAA and T-O to discuss survey
engineering requirements and grant application. FAA hopes to
have a published approach by 2008.
• Airport electrical power is to be off for up to two hours on Friday
the 17th, at noon, install a new transformer. A NOTAM has been
issued.
• Change to ALP with leaseholds on hangars 104 & 105 to be
realigned — contract goes before the city council tonight. If
approved, work will begin next week.
• Sent a bill of $420 to USFS to see if there was any chance of
collecting for the replacement of the approach end light that was
destroyed by a landing P-3 last summer.
Business:
➢ Min. Standards Committee: Nothing new to report at this time.
➢ MaylMacNichol Assignment/Assumption of Lease following the sale of
hangar 106G — Approved by AAC, will go the city council on the 30th of
November.
➢ East Hanger Project - Update: Most of the paving is complete and
hangar 206 will be moved next week.
> McCall Aviation Application to Amend Leasehold — Presented by Dan
Scott, president of McCall Aviation, a detailed request, aided by posters
with artist renditions of proposed new hangar complex along with
surveyed property description, for an additional 33,149 square feet of land
in order to construct a 120' by 120' hangar with a 40' by 40' office/lobby
wing, all for commercial use. One person in attendance (the owner of Si
Bueno restaurant/cantina) expressed opposition because the new hangar
would spoil their view of the airport. Mr. Scott excused himself from the
committee and the vote was 2 to 1 in approval of the project. Eric Hagen
(USFS) was absent, but was in favor of the project prior to the meeting.
The application should go before the city council on the 30th of November.
Adjournment - The meeting was adjourned at 1340 local
City of McCall
Airport Advisory Committee
October 3rd, 2006 — Minutes
The meeting was called to order at 1205 local with members Gordon Eccles, Eric
Hagen (USFS), and Chairman John Seevers present. Dan Scott and Jerry
McCauley were absent. Additional persons were Rick Harvey (Airport
Manager), and Councilmember Don Bailey. Public attendance comprised of six
people.
Minutes
➢ The minutes from the September, 2006, regular meeting;were reviewed
and approved with the following recommendation by the AAC: The
minutes should not record which MC member cast the opposing vote.
Therefore, the September minutes will be corrected accordingly.
Public Comment: None
Airport Manager's Report:
➢ Current Events:
• Report on Public Workshop (master plan)
• LPV Approaches — engineering study proposed by Seattle ADO
• Winter Preparations
- VHF in loader
- Loader servicing
- Snow flags
- Hired help status
- Parking Lot Plan for winter
• Airport Manager's Vacation — 4th to 19th of October
• Gate maintenance
• Airport Manager's Retirement 12/31/06
> FY 2006 Budget — Close Out
Business:
> Leasehold Realignment/Change to ALP - It was realized that the AAC
had never gone through the formal motion/approval process on the
business of having the leaseholds for hangar 105 and Dew Aircraft
realigned resulting in the ALP being modified. This was brought up as a
motion and approved.
➢ East Hanger Project: First building going up at this time. Now projecting
completion by end of Nov. 28 of 33 hanger sale committed to date.
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