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HomeMy Public PortalAboutO'Hare Deposition Transcripts 2/19/15 Vol 2In The Matter Of: CHRISTOPHER F. O'HARE v. TOWN OF GULF STREAM Deposition of CHRISTOPHER O'HARE February 19, 2015 Vol II DEBRA DURAN A S S O C I A T E S Registered Professional Reporters P.O. Box 2288 West Palm Beach, Florida 33402 561- 313 -8000 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA CASE No.502013CA017717XXXXMB CHRISTOPHER F. O'HARE, Plaintiff, -vs- VOLUME II TOWN OF GULF STREAM, Defendant. CONTINUED VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF CHRISTOPHER F. O'HARE TAKEN AT THE INSTANCE OF THE DEFENDANT Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:47 p.m. - 6:58 p.m. 5550 Glades Road Suite 500 Boca Raton, Florida 33431 Reported By: Debra Duran - Bornstein, RPR Notary Public, State of Florida Debra Duran & Associates 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APPEARANCES: On behalf of the Plaintiff: MARK J. HANNA, ESQUIRE GMMM /MADISON P.A. 401 South County Road Suite 3272 Palm Beach, Florida 33480 LOUIS L. ROEDER, III„ ESQUIRE 7414 Sparkling Lake Road Orlando, Florida 32819 On behalf of the Defendant: ROBERT A. SWEETAPPLE, ESQUIRE SWEETAPPLE, BROEKER & VARKAS 20 S.E. 3rd Street Boca Raton, Florida 33432 JOANNE O'CONNOR, ESQUIRE JONES, FOSTER, JOHNSTON & STUBBS 505 South Flagler Drive, Suite 1100 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 ALSO PRESENT: Bo Cooper, Videographer Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 125 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I N D E X WITNESS: DIRECT CROSS REDIRECT RECROSS CHRISTOPHER O'HARE BY MR. HANNA: 206 E X H I B I T S NUMBER DESCRIPTION PAGE DEFENDANT'S EX. F DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO 172 PLAINTIFF'S VERIFIED MOTION DEFENDANT'S EX. G NOTES FROM DAYTIME 193 DEFENDANT'S EX. H DAYTIMER NOTES, SKETCH 201 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 126 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 127 P R O C E E D I N G S (Continued Proceedings) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 5:06. We're back on the record. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. In the Gulf Stream Patriot, which is an exhibit, it talks about "We encourage you to visit us online at www.gulfstreampatriot.com." Are you part of the "we" that is set forth in this? A. No. Q. So this was published without your -- without your permission or with your permission? A. I didn't give permission; I didn't withhold permission. Q. You did see it before it was published. A. Yes. Q. And when you saw it, it said in it that "Mr. O'Boyle and Mr. O'Hare, two men with a desire to end the disputes and return peace to the town." And then it also said "Mr. O'Boyle and Mr. O'Hare have both demonstrated a strong desire to resolve the matters at hand and return Gulf Stream to the quiet town it once was." Do you see that? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 128 A. Yes. Q. Did Mr. O'Boyle have permission to say that about you? A. I didn't give permission or withhold permission. Q. You read that. Did you object to that when you saw that? A. I didn't have a problem with what he was writing. It is his right to make free speech. He can say whatever he wants. Q. Do you have a strong desire to resolve the matters at hand and return Gulf Stream to the quiet town it once was? A. Absolutely. Q. But you want to get attorney's fees for filing public records requests, right? A. That would be up to a judge. Q. Well, so then you don't want to settle; you want to litigate public records requests to see if you can get attorney's fees, right? A. Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, in public commission meetings, I said to the town, these things could have gone away for just peanuts. For the filing fee and the minimum amount, just to get the record, instead of being turned into some giant 20,000 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 129 or $30,000 fiasco. All they had to do was give me the record and pay the filing fee. Q. Are you aware of -- A. As a matter of fact, that was an offer I made that they didn't act on. Q. What's the offer you made? A. I remember making an offer to them, giving them seven or ten days, saying, give me the filing fee and give me the record, and we'll dismiss this one. Let's get the ball rolling. Q. This one? A. It was just -- well, one at a time. Yeah. That was the first one. Q. And are you aware whether or not the O'Boyle Law Firm has been making written demands and filing fee affidavits for fees in cases throughout the state that were never, never incurred? A. Just what I've read in the Coastal Star. Q. Have you -- so you were represented by the O'Boyle Law Firm in these cases. A. These cases? Q. In a number of these cases, public records requests, you were represented by the O'Boyle Law Firm. MR. HANNA: I'm going to object to the form of the question. It's mischaracterizing that he had Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 M 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 130 some type of -- the previous question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let me -- you were represented by the O'Boyle Law Firm, correct? A. In my cases against the Town of Gulf Stream. Q. Have you ever become aware that -- whether or not the O'Boyle Law Firm, and attorneys in the O'Boyle Law Firm, have been making demands for attorney's fees of defendants in public records requests for fees that were not earned? or -- MR. HANNA: Are you talking about in his cases THE WITNESS: No. MR. HANNA: -- or other people's cases? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. In any cases. Yours or other people's cases. A. No. I don't think that is true. Q. You're unaware of that. You don't believe that's happened. A. I'm unaware of it, and it seems completely out of character. Q. Out of character for the O'Boyles? A. To ask for money they didn't earn? Yes. Q. Did Mr. Chandler ever talk to you about a windfall scheme to use public records requests to make Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Im 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 131 demand for attorney's fees that weren't incurred to hold people up when you sued them? A. Windfall? You mean like oil company windfall? Q. Yeah. Like file a complaint that is in a form and tell the defendant that if you pay $4,750, they will dismiss the case. A. You know, I've heard some people have strategies where they would ask for money to not file a case, but I think that's completely unethical. I would never do that or condone anybody doing that. Q. Were you ever aware of the O'Boyle Law Firm filing a lawsuit and asking for thousands of dollars in fees, when there had been no attorney's fees incurred or minimal attorney's fees incurred? A. No. I never heard anything like that. Q. And have you -- strike that. You never talked to Mr. Chandler about that technique? A. Technique? No. Q. And about that being done in any public records requests throughout the state by -- A. Asking for fees that were not earned? Q. Right. A. No. Q. So your goal -- your goal right now is to get Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 132 attorney's fees from Gulf Stream for the public records request cases that you filed, right? A. My singular goal? One of my goals? What are you asking me? Q. That is one of your goals? A. No. I'm sorry. Ask it again. Q. One of your goals -- one of your goals right now -- when you talk about wanting to settle, one of your goals is you want the Town of Gulf Stream to pay attorney's fees for public records requests you filed? A. I am seeking remedy in the court. The judge is going to decide -- I would like to be made whole again. I would like to have the record. Who knows what is going to happen. But that's my goal. Q. Are there any records right now that you believe you haven't been given that you are entitled to? A. I've got a number of complaints I filed and others that I haven't filed, but I could. But there's a lot of issues. Q. Did you hear my question? A. You asked me if I didn't get a particular record I'm entitled to? Q. Are there any records you've asked for that you now presently believe you haven't received? A. Are there any records I've asked for that I Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 11l 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 133 haven't received? Q. Uh -huh. A. Plenty. Q. That you still haven't received? A. Plenty. Thirteen months later. Q. Well, you still don't have them. A. Still don't have them. Or a response from the town. Q. And you filed lawsuits over those? A. Not all of them, no. There's only so much I could do. Q. And do you ever represent yourself pro se? A. I don't know if I've ever done that or not. Q. Have you ever filed a lawsuit pro se and then said you had assistance of counsel? A. Yeah. I've done that. Q. And you have done that recently? A. You know, what do you mean "recently "? Q. Within the last three months. A. I don't think so. Q. What cases have you represented yourself pro se with the assistance of counsel? A. Initially when I filed my complaint, I thought I could handle that; but as soon as I got a couple of transmissions from Mr. Randolph, I realized I was way Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 134 out of my league and sought the assistance of counsel. Q. So let's start with 9/29/2013, which was a day that you filed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40 -- 41 public records requests. Do you remember that day? A. No. Q. How long would it take you to file 41 public records requests in one day? A. 41, maybe 30 seconds each, so maybe 22 minutes. Q. Thirty seconds -- A. If I was fast on my fingers. Q. How did you decide what public records you wanted on that day? A. I didn't decide that day. Q. When did you decide? A. I probably worked on that list for weeks. I just happened to file them all that day. Q. How much time did you spend working on the list? A. I didn't work on a list. I would work on a record, and another one would occur to me. If I had a theme, there was an article I wanted to write about, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 135 there would be multiple requests about that. Maybe there was some other reason. There might be a few records requests about that and -- but it never made a list. Q. So why would you file 41 public records requests in one day? A. Well, I happened to have time at the computer. I think it might have been a Sunday. I'm not sure what day of the week it was. But that would have been my habit to compose them as I had the time, and thought of the record I wanted, and then just sat down and sent them all out. Just like I would go to the library and check out a bunch of books at one time, even though I wasn't going to read them all at once. Q. And did you ever consider how long it would take the clerk to respond to the 41 requests that you filed on September 29, 2013? A. I never thought it would take a year. Q. Did you ever think how long will it take? A. I thought it would take a reasonable amount of time. Q. Did you always ask for a specific identified document, or did you often ask for documents that would take research to locate? A. That's a very good question, Bob. Sometimes I Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 136 knew a document would exist, and I would be as specific as possible. Sometimes I had an idea a document would exist, and I tried to describe the area where that document might be. And other times I would be told by the town, or I would hear something at a town meeting, and I wanted that document, but I wasn't quite sure what document that document was. So I tried to frame my question the way I thought would get what they were talking about at the town meeting. So I couldn't always be sure what I was asking for, but I knew it was there, and I was throwing my -- I was reaching out to try to find that document. You don't always know what government records are there until you start asking. Q. So you want them to go look through all their records to find something in a topic that you mentioned, right? A. Well, I wanted to follow the law. Q. And do you think that the law allows you just to name some topic, and then the government has to go look for every record that possibly mentions that word or that topic? Is that reasonable? A. I think that's exactly what the law says. Q. You think it's reasonable when you make a public records requests just to say, I want every letter Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 IME 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 137 that has Joe's name it, any letter that says Joe in it, that's reasonable. A. Joe who? Q. Just Joe. I want you, Clerk, give me any record that has the name "Joe" in it. And that is what the law allows? A. If I was at a commission meeting and Commissioner Ganger said, well, I got something from Joe. And he doesn't like this, but I might ask for all the records with the name Joe in it. Yeah. Q. And you think that is a legitimate public record request, and the town has to go through and look at every record it has, thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of records, and find every document that has the name Joe in it. And they don't give you every name has Joe in it, you can sue them and get fees. That's what you think? A. If I ask for a record, an e -mail, with the word "Joe" in it, I'm not an IT person, but I know you go in a search function. You put in Joe. They all pop up. You download it. Takes five minutes. And send it off to Mr. O'Hare. How troublesome is that? Q. That takes -- A. If it's not easy, then they say, we'll do it. It's going to cost you a bunch of money. Are you Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 138 willing to pay it? And then I can decide, is it worth it to me to pay that much to get it. Q. So you think it's just a matter of doing an e -mail search for these documents that could be found immediately. A. If I'm asking for an e -mail that has whatever the word is, maybe the word "complaint" or the word "trespass" or some -- whatever issue I was looking for because I happened to see something in a public meeting or whatever, I think, yes, you put the word "trespass," and all the e -mails come up with that word in it. Q. So you think -- the 41 e -mails that took you 30 second each to send out, how long do you think it would take the clerk reasonably to respond to those 41 e- mails? MR. HANNA: Object to form; mischaracterization. MR. ROEDER: Form. THE WITNESS: Again, it didn't take me 31 seconds to make the request. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Thirty seconds each to send them. A. Yes. To send them. So how long to respond? Q. How long do you think it would take the clerk to respond to those, do you think? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 139 A. I think, not knowing exactly what requests are on there, I would say less than 15 minutes each. Because it depends what I was asking for. Q. Did you ever ask the clerk how long it took her to respond to your request? A. The clerk usually volunteered that. I didn't have to. Q. What did the clerk tell you? A. Depends on the period of time. The responses seem to change and morph. Initially, we'll get back to you in three days or thereabouts. Then they would start sending formal estimates where the police chief might say, well, I took 10 minutes, and I found these records, and it's going to take 45 minutes to produce them. Which doesn't make any sense to me, because if you found them in 10 minutes, why does it take 45 minutes? Regardless, that is how I would communicate with them. I never asked them how long is it going to take you. Q. Did the clerk ever complain to you that this was burdensome and time consuming? A. To me personally? I wouldn't call it a complaint. Rita Taylor is very professional. She would give me an e -mail that basically says this is what it's going to take. It wasn't a complaint. Q. She never said to you that you're filing far Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 140 too many public records requests, and it's taking too much of my time? A. I recall a blockade - styled letter that said you haven't paid for our estimates; therefore, we're not going to process your requests anymore. Q. Did Rita Taylor or anyone at the Town of Gulf Stream ever tell you that your conduct was completely unreasonable, and that they could not possibly comply with the number of requests you were filing? A. I don't recall ever having that conversation. Q. Do you know the Digital Record? What is Digital Record; do you know? A. That would be a record that if I was inside the computer would be composed of zeros and ones. Q. So did you ever file a request under the name Digital Record? A. I'm sorry. I thought you were asking me if I knew what a digital record was. Q. No. Did you ever file a request under the name Digital Record? A. I think it might be Digital.Record.G -mail. Something like that. Q. Right. Did you ever do that? A. Yeah. That sounds like one of mine. Q. Okay. So what about Record.public@yahoo? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 141 A. That sounds like one of mine. Q. So on 9/20 -- on 9/12, Mr. Roeder, on behalf of you, filed two requests, and then Mr. Chandler on the 18th files five requests. And then you on September 20th filed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 using Record.public @yahoo.com. A. That is probably true. Q. And what about Archive Inquiry? Is that a name you used? A. I don't recognize that one. Q. And what about mail to PineGD @G- mail.com. That is you, right? A. Say it again. Q. Mail to PineGD. Is that Pineapple Grove? A. I have an e -mail address that is PineGD. I don't know about the "mail to." Q. At G- mail.com? A. Yes. Q. Is that you? A. Yes. That is me. Q. So then what about Archive Inquiry? Is that you? A. I don't think that is me. Q. So on September 23, three days after all of Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 142 the Yahoo -- A. I'm sorry. To clarify, if I had an opportunity to see what the record was, that Archive Inquiry, I would probably recognize the record request. But I don't recognize that name. Q. That would have been -- let's just deal with the ones that you presently recall. Are you, on September 23, 2013, the "mail to PineGD @Pineapple Grove "? A. That's me. Q. On that day, on 9/23/2013, you, under that name, filed 1, 2,3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46 public records requests. Are you aware of that? A. What is the sender name? Q. Mail to PineGD @G- mail.com. A. That must be a typo. It is PineGD @Gmail.com, and, yes, I probably sent those. But what does that have to with disqualification? I don't think there's any claims on those. Q. Were you aware when I appeared in this case and you moved to disqualify me, that I was going to be alleging in a complaint that your conduct was an abuse Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 NO 99 Page 143 of process, and that you were abusing the Public Records Act in order to extort other relief from the Town of Gulf Stream? A. Was that the RICO claim you're talking about? Q. No. Abuse of process. Were you aware that I was going to bring a counterclaim -- I intended, based on my research, to bring a counterclaim against you for abusing process based on your use of the Public Records Act, in order to extort other benefits from the Town of Gulf Stream? Were you aware that that was the scope of my representation with regard to this case, based on my investigation? A. I -- Q. Did you have any idea of that? A. I don't know if I can testify to that without violating the confidential agreement. Q. Well, you know now -- you know now, seeing the counterclaim that I filed against you in this case -- A. The RICO? Q. No, in this case, the counterclaim that I filed. A. Yes. Q. For declaratory judgment, that I'm asking the court to conclude that your conduct is an abuse of process, right? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 144 1 A. I've seen that counterclaim. 2 Q. That is part of the scope of my 3 representation. You understand that, right? 4 A. Okay. 5 Q. I have never been involved in any case with 6 you that involves your involvement in any abuse of 7 process by filing public records requests, have I? 8 A. My initial answer would be no, but I'm not 9 sure what you mean by "case." You mean filing with the 10 court? 11 Q. Or making public records requests just to 12 extort relief from the court -- from the defendant 13 filing hundreds and hundreds of public records requests 14 in order to pound and abuse and extort Gulf Stream to 15 doing what you want them to do. 16 MR. ROEDER: Objection to form; 17 Mischaracterization. 18 THE WITNESS: I'm sorry. 19 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 20 Q. Have you ever been involved -- 21 A. I don't know anybody doing that. 22 Q. Let me rephrase. 23 When you say I represented you in 1998, or my 24 firm represented you, were you involved in any conduct 25 where you filed hundreds of public records requests Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 24 working with Page 145 1 against anyone? 2 A. No. 3 Q. Or where you filed 40 and 50 public records 4 requests within an hour to a community? 5 A. No. 6 Q. That's something that you've only started 7 doing in conjunction with Mr. Roeder and Mr. Chandler, 8 right? 9 A. No. 10 Q. You didn't do that before you met Mr. Roeder 11 and Mr. Chandler, did you? You didn't file multiple 12 serial public records requests until you met Mr. Roeder 13 and Mr. Chandler, right? 14 MR. HANNA: Object to form. 15 MR. ROEDER: Objection. 16 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 17 Q. After you met them, right? So before you met 18 them, you went in and you asked for public records, and 19 they were given to you very nicely, right? 20 A. Where? 21 Q. In Ocean Ridge. 22 A. Ocean Ridge is very cooperative. 23 Q. After you met Mr. Chandler, you started 24 working with Mr. Chandler and Mr. Roeder; Mr. Roeder, 25 you, and Mr. Chandler set out to make multiple robocall Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 146 public record requests in order to cripple the Town of Gulf Stream, right? MR. HANNA: Objection. Do not answer. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And then right after you filed 40- something requests on 9/23, Mr. Chandler filed a request the next day; and then the 26th you filed another request; and then on the 27th, Archive Inquiry, which happens to be you, filed five more requests, right? A. I don't know about Archive Inquiry. If I could look at the documents you're talking about, I might know better. Q. When I take your depositions in all of the cases you filed, I will be showing you all of the public records requests that you have been involved in filing. MR. ROEDER: You have the record here now? We don't need to go on a -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't have it now. I'm going to ask him in his depo. He's asking for it now. I'll show it to him when I take his deposition in the 12 cases he filed. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And on October 7th, under Digital Records, you filed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 public records Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 147 requests, didn't you? A. What year is that? Q. 2013. A. I didn't commit the date to memory, but I'm assuming it is correct. Q. On the next day under Digital Record name, you submitted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90 public records requests to Bill Thrasher at the Town of Gulf Stream, didn't you, sir? A. I'm sorry. I don't think you caught all those numbers. Are you sure that's the right number? Q. Ninety. A. Because I heard you go from 80s to 90. Q. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. A. Also, could you give me the name. I don't remember the name. Q. Digital Record. Do you remember October 8 -- A. No. Q. -- 2013? Was there something special about October 8, 2013? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89 -- 89 requests sent to Bill Thrasher by you. 84 were by Digital Record, and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 were in your name. Are you aware of that? A. What does that mean "in my name ?" Q. Chris O'Hare was the submitter as opposed to Digital Record. MR. HANNA: I'm going to object to form. We have no idea what you're referring to. You don't have the documents with you. You have a list that was created by you. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware, sir, that on September -- on October 8th, that you filed over 80 public records requests to Bill Thrasher using Digital Record as an address? A. No. I didn't commit the dates to memory. Q. Why would you ever send over 80 public records requests in one day to the town manager of Gulf Stream, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 148 A. I can't think of anything. Q. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89 -- 89 requests sent to Bill Thrasher by you. 84 were by Digital Record, and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 were in your name. Are you aware of that? A. What does that mean "in my name ?" Q. Chris O'Hare was the submitter as opposed to Digital Record. MR. HANNA: I'm going to object to form. We have no idea what you're referring to. You don't have the documents with you. You have a list that was created by you. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware, sir, that on September -- on October 8th, that you filed over 80 public records requests to Bill Thrasher using Digital Record as an address? A. No. I didn't commit the dates to memory. Q. Why would you ever send over 80 public records requests in one day to the town manager of Gulf Stream, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 149 A. Because I had the time to do it. Q. And you have told numerous people that you do not like Mr. Thrasher, right? A. No. I don't think he is doing his job. Q. And you've told people you don't like Mr. Thrasher, right? A. Personally, I don't care about him. Q. And you told people you want to get rid of him, right? A. I think the town would be better served by another town manager. Q. And you've advocated him being fired, right? A. I think the town would be better served. Q. You have advocated that. You have told people you think the town would be better served by him being fired. MR. HANNA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: I don't understand the word "advocate." BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You stated publicly on numerous occasions you would like to see Bill Thrasher fired. A. I think the town would be better served by another town manager. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 150 Q. You stated that publicly, haven't you? A. I spoke at a commission meeting, and I said the town would be better served with another town manager. Q. You've said more than that; you said Mr. Thrasher is incompetent, right? A. I think he is. Q. And you've said a number of nasty things about Mr. Thrasher, haven't you, over the years? MR. ROEDER: Object to form. MR. HANNA: Object to form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You said a number of derogatory things about Mr. Thrasher on your website and publicly over the years, haven't you? A. As I've gotten more public records, I'm changing that opinion. Now I'm thinking he is pretty much doing what the town tells him to do, whereas before I thought he was calling the shots. Q. So you think he is evil and corrupt, right? MR. HANNA: Object to form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. You think he's corrupt. A. No. Not the definition of corrupt that the state uses. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 151 Q. How would you describe his conduct? A. Corrupt means taking money under the table, I think. Q. There are other types of corruption. You think that -- A. In that case, maybe he is corrupt. Q. You think he is breaking the law all the time, right? A. I think so. Definitely. Q. And you have told people he should be fired, right, because he is breaking the law? A. I've told people that he is definitely doing things that are not legal and -- if I can finish my answer -- that the town would be better served with another town manager. Q. And you served over 80 public records requests on him personally as part of your goal to get him fired, right? A. All my record requests were served to Mr. Thrasher. For some reason, that's the way Rita likes it. Q. All of them were served to Mr. Thrasher? A. I believe. 99 percent are going to be BThrasher @gulfstream.com. And somehow Rita reads that account -- I'm sorry, Ms. Taylor. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Pagc 152 Q. And has anybody ever told you to serve Mr. Thrasher with public records requests because he's the clerk of the town? A. I seem to recall in Rita's deposition, she testified to that. I'm not sure how that started. Yeah. I e- mailed Mr. Thrasher. Rita somehow responds to it. And, actually, Rita -- Rita writes a lot of letters for him, as I understand it. Q. And then three days later on the 11th, you served Mr. Thrasher with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 10, 11, 12 public records requests. And on the 15th, Mr. Jonathan O'Boyle -- who is Asset Inventory, by the way? A. That is one of mine. Q. So on the 15th, you -- A. That is an old one. Q. On the 15th of October 2013, you served one for Asset Inventory; and your lawyer, Jonathan O'Boyle, at the same time, files 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 -- MR. ROEDER: Objection. Not proven that he was acting as his lawyer at the time. MR. SWEETAPPLE: The man who is your lawyer, Jonathan O'Boyle, in numerous matters -- Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 153 MR. ROEDER: Objection. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Are you conducting -- why don't you have your co- counsel, who is handling this deposition -- MR. HANNA: I'm waiting for you to finish the question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. Let me rephrase it. On the 15th, are you aware that you filed a request under the name Asset Inventory, and then you also filed one, two -- two under your own name; and on that same day, at or about the same time, Jonathan O'Boyle filed one, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 requests. A. No. I was not aware of that. Q. And on the 23rd of October, you filed in your name 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 20 -- 20. Let me start over again. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 requests. A. What is your question? Q. Are you aware that you did that; that you filed 15 requests on October 23? A. I didn't memorize the dates. I'm not aware of Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 154 1 what you're referring to. If you show me the documents, 2 I'll be happy to comment. 3 Q. The next day you filed more requests. You 4 filed -- there were times when you filed requests every 5 day of the week, multiple requests. Are you aware of 6 that? 7 MR. HANNA: Object to the form. 8 THE WITNESS: Am I aware that I filed 9 requests? 10 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 11 Q. Every day of the week, multiple requests every 12 day of the week. 13 A. Which week? 14 Q. Are you aware of that? 15 A. Which week? 16 Q. Are you aware of ever doing that, where you 17 spent every day of the week filing multiple requests to 18 Bill Thrasher? 19 A. I have not committed to memory when I make my 20 requests. 21 Q. But you have a log of all this, right? 22 A. I have the log that is at the town's website, 23 and I have copies of my own requests, and the responses 24 when I get them. 25 Q. And on October 29th, you filed -- this is Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Im 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 155 2013 -- 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 requests. And then the next day you filed two requests. And then on the 31st, the next day, you filed two requests. And then on the 1st you filed two more requests. And then on the second you filed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 requests. And then the 3rd you file two requests. And then the 5th you file two requests. On the 8th you file two requests. On the 9th you file 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 requests. On the 10th of November, after that, you turn around and file 1, 2, 3, 4,5, 6, 7, 8, 9 requests. Are you aware of that? MR. HANNA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: Again, I didn't commit the dates to memory. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. On the 11th, sir, you turn around and file 1, 2, 3 requests. The next day you file three more requests. The next day you file a request. After the weekend on the 16th you file 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 requests. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 156 You're filing hundreds and hundreds of requests in sequence along with Martin O'Boyle, Jonathan O'Boyle, Citizens Awareness Foundation, Martin O'Boyle, Citizens Awareness, Stop Dirty Government, Chris O'Hare; dozens and dozens by all of you throughout February and March and April of 2014, and you think that the Town of Gulf Stream has not made reasonable effort to comply with your requests? MR. HANNA: Object to the form. THE WITNESS: Is that a question? BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Yeah. You think the Town of Gulf Stream has not made reasonable efforts to comply with your requests in light of your conduct? A. Sometimes they do. Q. What do you think would happen if even ten people in Gulf Stream behaved the way you do at the clerk's office? What you do think would happen with the Town of Gulf Stream? A. I can imagine exactly what would happen. Q. Would the clerk's office have to close? A. I think the town would take some of that $4 million they found for RICO and perhaps hire a few more people to get a real record department like other towns. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 iE 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Page 157 Q. So you're doing this to make the town get a real record department? MR. HANNA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: Absolutely not. Doing this to obtain records. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. This is all done just to obtain records. A. Is that a question? Q. Yes. You want the jury to believe that this conduct on your part is done in a good faith effort to obtain records that you need and want. MR. HANNA: Objection. What jury? We have a motion to disqualify that's in front of the judge. MR. SWEETAPPLE: This transcript will be used in various jury trials. MR. HANNA: So you are going beyond the motion to disqualify here? The intent of this, we have an updated deposition for the motion to disqualify. MR. SWEETAPPLE: This case that this deposition -- MR. HANNA: Are you going to ask questions about any of the documents that we've provided to you regarding the Daytimers, the other notes that Mr. O'Hare has regarding your representation -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: Yes, I am. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 158 MR. HANNA: In 1997, 1998, 1998, 1999, 2005, 2006, and 2007? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Yes, I am going to. MR. HANNA: Move on to those. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I don't have to do that. This is a deposition that's noticed in this case -- MR. HANNA: I'm giving you an updated deposition for the motion to disqualify. That's what it was updated -- that is what the purpose of the deposition was for, and that's what we agreed to appear for. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm asking him about this case as well, which is the scope of my representation. Okay. I have a pending. MR. ROEDER: Are you willing to stipulate you have more of a scope of representation than just a public records request? MR. SWEETAPPLE: Mr. Roeder, I have filed a counterclaim and a motion for leave for a counterclaim in this case. I have asked for a jury trial to determine the issues in the declaratory judgment. This transcript is being taken in this case. It can be used in front of the jury, even though it was the motion to disqualify. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 ME 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 159 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So I'll ask the question again. Do you expect the jury to believe that you are filing all of these public records requests because you want these records, and that's the only reason? A. I expect to have a day in court. The facts will all be known, and I pray that the judge and the jury will see the reasonableness of all this. Q. Do you know of anybody, anyone in the state of Florida, who has done anything remotely like this? A. Like what? Q. Like filing almost a thousand public records requests, 50 and 60 a day, day after day, barraging the city manager with so many public records requests he can't even see straight? A. That's not what I did. MR. HANNA: Object to form. MR. ROEDER: Object to the form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware of anyone else, aside from the O'Boyles, who undertook to do it as a living in an alleged law firm, who have filed anywhere near the public records requests that you have filed? MR. HANNA: Object to the form. MR. ROEDER: Object. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 160 MR. HANNA: Again, you're getting into -- Mr. O'Hare has nothing to do with the operation of the O'Boyle Law Firm. And your questions keep insinuating that somehow he is involved in that or trying to make money off these public records request cases. MR. SWEETAPPLE: The O'Boyle Law firm, I suggest, is working for him for free to compensate him for his co- conspirator conduct. And I guess we'll find that out as we take discovery. We'll see if he has contingency agreements when I move the court to compel, because the fact is, Mr. Hanna, all those privileges you asserted don't exist under the law. And you know it. MR. HANNA: I'm quite confident I know you're putting a show on. MR. SWEETAPPLE: No, you don't know. MR. HANNA: You are, Bob. Come on. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Payment of fees is not a privileged communication. MR. ROEDER: If you're not going to ask questions about the documents we provided, we need to end this now. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So you now know -- you now know the scope of Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 161 my representation in the case that is pending before Judge Blanc, because I have filed a motion for leave to file an amended answer of affirmative defenses and counterclaim, right? A. I don't know what you're talking about. Q. Have you had a chance to review, in this case that you filed to disqualify me in, before I ever filed a pleading -- are you aware that I have now filed a motion for leave to file? A. I'm aware of that. Q. Are you aware that in an O'Boyle case before Judge Blanc, I filed a similar motion and a similar counterclaim? A. I wasn't aware of that. Q. Are you aware that Judge Blanc last week ordered that I have leave to file a counterclaim to sue you, the O'Boyle Law Firm, Jonathan O'Boyle, Martin O'Boyle, William Ring and others? A. Well, I'm sure whatever Judge Blanc ruled is reasonable, but I'm not aware of that. Q. You were not made aware that that ruling was entered last week and that you were being served with a counterclaim similar to -- A. I know I was served, but I'm not sure what ruling you're talking about. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 162 Q. Are you aware that I moved for leave to file a counterclaim in a Martin O'Boyle case that named you as a counter - defendant? A. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. I knew that I was named in some other counterclaim. Q. Are you aware that I filed, in -this case that you have moved to disqualify me, a similar counterclaim? A. Yes. I'm aware of that. Q. Did you read that counterclaim? A. Yes. But I did not commit it to memory. Q. But you know now or have some idea of the scope of my representation in this case, right? A. Oh, definitely. It's RICO. All over the place. Q. The case that I have filed seeks specifically relief. Do you know what that relief is as you sit here? A. I'm sorry. The damages you're seeking? Q. No. It doesn't seek damages at this time. It seeks relief from the court. A. I don't remember the relief you're seeking. Q. Okay. Do you know if any of the relief I'm seeking in this case has any relationship -- strike that. Do you know what the relief is I'm seeking in Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 163 this case? A. I don't remember it. Q. Do you know any of it? A. Do I know any of what? Q. The relief I'm seeking in this case. A. No. I read the claim. MR. HANNA: Are you talking about the motion to amend that hasn't been granted yet, so that really -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: In this case. MR. HANNA: -- is not at issue yet. Once you get your motion to amend granted. MR. ROEDER: It hasn't been granted yet, Counsel. MR. SWEETAPPLE: First of all, you've made a representation in your motion as to what the scope of my representation is before I filed anything, which was pure speculation. Now we have a motion that has been granted in the O'Boyle case that shows what my scope is with regard to -- MR. HANNA: Pure speculation. MR. ROEDER: You've made the threats in a private meeting. MR. SWEETAPPLE: And we're -- Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 164 MR. ROEDER: That you won't let us bring out. If you are going to make accusations, let's bring it out. MR. SWEETAPPLE: First of all, whatever we discussed in a mediation in an attempt to settle claims that I intended to bring is confidential. Okay. MR. ROEDER: Don't imply he's never been made aware of it. You asked him has he ever been made aware of any claims. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. What I want to know is, you've seen the scope of my representation. You've seen that I brought -- I sued you in an O'Boyle case and made you a counter - defendant. You see that I'm bringing the same claims, attempting to bring them in this case. Are you aware of the claims that I have brought against you in the O'Boyle case? A. I believe it is a mirror image of what you've done in my case. Q. Or similar. A. Very similar. Q. Can you tell me what is the scope of my representation of Gulf Stream that you object to? What claims am I bringing that you think I'm precluded from Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 165 bringing because of what I did for you in 1998, according to you? MR. HANNA: Object to the form; asked and answered. THE WITNESS: Yeah. The way you're phrasing that is difficult for me to answer. BY MR. HANNA: Q. Well, you've told the court, and your lawyers have told the court, that the representation of Gulf Stream in this case is substantially related to what I did for you 17 years ago. A. Yes. Q. In Ocean Ridge. That is what your motion says. A. Yes. Q. Tell me what claims I am bringing that are substantially related to the claims that I represented you on in Gulf Stream. What claims am I bringing against you on behalf of Gulf Stream that are substantially related to claims you say I represented you on in Ocean Ridge 17 years ago? MR. HANNA: I'm going to object to form; mischaracterization. Gulf Stream is also -- he is also bringing claims against Gulf Stream for 1983 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 166 in a federal lawsuit for retaliation, which is substantially what the allegations were regarding all the conduct in Ocean Ridge. THE WITNESS: You want to parrot that? MR. SWEETAPPLE: That was a speaking objection, and I plan on moving for sanctions on it. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. But tell me what you think substantially related in the claims that I brought against you, are substantially related to anything that you say I handled for you previously. A. Bob, all the conversations we've had that were privileged, and the representation you gave me where the town was basically violating my civil rights, was cooking up fake code violations, similar to what Mr. Thrasher did. The advice you gave me on zoning issues on permit issues. And now I see the very same thing happening now. I don't understand where there is any confusion about similarities. Q. So the law requires that my representation of this case would somehow have to negatively impact my previous representation of you. Is there anything that I'm doing in this case that is going to affect the fact that your code Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 167 violation in Ocean Ridge was settled? A. I don't see any impact from your actions now on previous actions with Ocean Ridge. Q. Are you aware that that is a requirement under the law to determine that there is a substantial relationship; that under the case law, I cannot undertake representation against a former client where my current conduct would in any way impact the prior result. That's the standard. Did anybody ever tell you that before you filed this motion? A. You're asking me for a legal opinion? Q. I want to know -- MR. HANNA: Objection. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let me do it this way. A. You're very clever. I don't know that. Q. Is there anything that I'm doing now with regard to representing Gulf Stream that is going to impact in any way your permit issues regarding -- what issues, what permit issues, were you talking about from 1998? A. I'm sorry. Is this a different question? Q. Yeah. You've said that you had zoning issues in Ocean Ridge, okay. That is what your motion talks about. Your motion doesn't talk about anything in 2006. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 168 It doesn't talk about anything in Gulf Stream. A. Well, 2006 was the -- I discovered new records, which we produced for you as soon as we discovered them. And that one of those records I produced was about a permit issue in Gulf Stream in 2005 or '6. Q. For a -- permit for what? A. I had been issued a permit, and Mr. Thrasher came out and said, this can't be. Take it out. I showed him the permit plan, and he said he didn't care. Take it out. Not allowed. I explained to him the same condition was allowed to happen at the mayor's house and at other houses. I gave him the addresses. He said he didn't care. Take it out. And it was in regard to that. Q. And did you take it out? A. Yes. On your advice. Q. So you say you called me about a permit in 2005 or 2006. A. We spoke about it, and basically it was a cost benefit analysis; it was going to be more money to fight than it was to remove it. Q. So you didn't hire me because it would cost too much. A. I'm sorry? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 169 Q. It would cost too much to fight it. A. I didn't fight it. I took it out. Q. So you didn't hire me to fight it? A. When you say did I specifically have an engagement letter with you.... Q. You didn't give me money to fight that; you decided it would cost too much. A. No. I didn't pay you money. Q. What's the other permit issue? A. Permit issue. It was a zoning issue. Q. What's the zoning issue. A. The three -plus acres that we purchased around that time. I think it was 1999. We were going for permission to build the buildings we wanted to build. And the City of Boynton is very specific on use, not just the structure itself. And the issue was could we have our use and light industrial, and they were insisting it had to be heavy industrial. And finally we prevailed, and we were allowed to occupy the property. Q. Did I represent you anywhere? A. Just advice. Q. So you called me? A. We spoke. Q. And did I send you an engagement letter or get a fee? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 23 personal knowledge of a lot of things that I don't want 24 the other counsel knowing, or being used against me, and 25 that's why we're here. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 170 1 A. No. I believe it was same arrangement you had 2 with Emille Dansue (phonetic). 3 Q. You just called me and -- 4 A. Just called. 5 Q. -- I nicely told you what I thought. 6 A. Yeah. I appreciate that. 7 Q. Okay. 8 A. Just very -- 9 Q. So that was in -- 10 A. -- easy to work with at the time. 11 Q. That was in Boynton Beach? 12 A. That was in Boynton. 13 Q. So is there anything that I'm doing for Gulf 14 Stream that's going to affect your zoning in Boynton 15 Beach? 16 A. Well, I just found the records. I was told 17 look for any records that had Sweetapple's name on them. 18 And I found the records, and now they refresh my memory. 19 And I'm telling you, as far as whether it 20 impacts Gulf Stream, I'm not a legal expert. I can't 21 give you an opinion on that. All I know -- if I can 22 finish speaking -- is you represented us. You have 23 personal knowledge of a lot of things that I don't want 24 the other counsel knowing, or being used against me, and 25 that's why we're here. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 171 Q. Mr. O'Hare, I've already made it clear to your counsel that I'm going to be moving for fees, because I believe your motion is a total sham under the law. A. Sure. I understand that. Q. The standard is that my representation in this matter would have to have an adverse impact on a result I obtained for you in some prior matter. And so I'm going to ask you these questions again very carefully. Is there anything that I'm doing on behalf of Gulf Stream that is going to impact your 1998 case involving some zoning violation involving an apartment building? A. Well, I appreciate you explaining why you're asking what you're asking; and I appreciate that you might have a different opinion of the law. I have my opinion. It's not a learned opinion; it's just my opinion. But I don't see any effect on those previous whatever reason, I don't see any of that stuff taking a left turn. It is done, completed. All we're talking about now is how am I impacted by your representing the town against me. Q. So my current representation is going to have no effect on the 1998 zoning matter, right? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 172 A. I don't believe that. Q. It's not -- correct? A. Correct. Q. And it's not going to have any adverse effect on the zoning in Boynton Beach, right? A. No. Q. And it's not going to have any effect on your decision in 2005 not to fight over your garage door, right? A. Garage door. Q. What was it that you said? What was that permit issue? A. It was for a brick new wall that was put on the seawall. Q. There's nothing that I'm doing now for Gulf Stream that is going to affect your decision in 2005, right? A. I no longer have the house, so no. Q. I'm going to mark as - what's the next exhibit? THE COURT REPORTER: F. (Defendant's Exhibit F was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Did you receive the defendant, Town of Gulf Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 173 Stream's, response to plaintiff's verified motion to disqualify defense counsel? A. I'm sorry. That was a big mouthful. Let me look. You're asking if I received this document? Q. Yes. Did you receive Exhibit F? A. Exhibit F? Q. Yes. That's what I filed in response to your motion to disqualify me because I represented you allegedly in 1998. A. Okay. Yes. I did receive this. Q. Did you read it? A. Yes. Q. Did you see the case law that was cited in the motion? A. I read the document. Q. Am I doing anything now that attacks the work product that I performed in the past, according to you? A. Attacks the work product? Q. What I did for you in the past, trying to undo what I did in the past, according to you. A. No. Q. Are you aware that the courts have defined "substantially related" to mean, specifically, matters are substantially -- related for purposes of this rule if they involve the same transaction or legal dispute, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 No 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 174 or if the current matter would involve a lawyer attacking work that the lawyer performed for the former client." And that's from the comments to the rule. Are you aware of that? A. I read the document. Q. Let talk about -- so you concede that my -- my claim, on behalf of my client, that you're acting with unclean hands, and that you're acting in a conspiracy with others to inundate the town with thousands of public records requests, that has nothing to do with anything that happened in 1998 or 2006, right? A. I disagree with that completely. Q. What does that have to do with 1998 or 2006? A. I'm not acting with unclean hands, whatever that means. Q. I'm saying my claim, the fact that I'm alleging that, has nothing to do with anything that happened in 1998 or 2006, right? A. You know, when I read that, I questioned whether some of that might have been tailored based on your knowledge of my "hot buttons," if I could use that term. Q. What are hot buttons? A. You know, ways to bait people or get them to Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 175 react unfavorably. You know, hot buttons. Like, you know, somebody has a short temper, so you poke them in the chest and run like hell. Q. Do you have a short temper? A. I'm not going to talk about me or my medical conditions, but I'm saying that it seemed like I recognize things in there at the time that looked like you had a good knowledge of me and my reactions to things, and maybe that is how you tailored your counterclaim. Q. Give me some examples of that. Here's the counterclaim. Give me some examples. A. We're going to be here for me to read through this. MR. HANNA: Let's take a quick break. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Sure. I told you we're going to be here until 9:00. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 6:02. We're going off the record. (At 6:02 p.m. a recess was taken.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 6:09. We're back on the record. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Mr. O'Hare, I realize it's late. I won't hold you to this. Is there anything you read previously or Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 176 you've read in the short time you looked at that, that is information that you believe I have obtained from you in 1998 or anytime previously? Any of those allegations about your conduct? A. Well, no. My point was -- and I admit I read up to page 15 and had sufficient -- I didn't have to -- had sufficient evidence. I didn't have to go further to make my point. My point is, there's language in here purely selected and used because you know that it would effect me different than it might affect someone else. Q. The language I used in pleading would affect you differently. Okay. A. Yes. I would be happy to -- Q. I don't need you to elaborate on that. It is unnecessary. A. Per your permission, I outlined it. But if you don't want me to go there.... Q. The allegations in the pleading are allegations of fact, of what has occurred? A. Exactly. Q. Your emotional reaction to those is of no concern to me. I'm concerned in proving a case. This is not a psychological profile of you. Everyone reacts differently to allegations and complaints. That is your subjective right. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 177 A. I disagree with you. Q. We'll each have our chance to present this to Judge Blanc rather soon. What I want to know, is there any information, any facts in that complaint, that relate to anything you previously told me or disclosed to me? A. Well, as a matter of fact, I didn't cite any facts. They're actually nonfacts. They're just outright not true. But the words you used and things you chose are the things that, to me, feel like you're using information that you previously obtained to -- Q. Give me an example of what you're talking about. A. I'll be happy to now. Q. Yes. It is so silly, I want to hear what you're thinking. A. Well, I don't want to introduce into the record that very information that I am trying to disqualify you for, so you don't share it with Jones Foster and these other people, or used against me, but I can tell you the passage. On page 12 it starts, the purpose of disguising their involvement, the word "conspirators, scheme, ill- conceived requests." On page 13. Avoid special service charges. Used fictitious or fraudulent Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 178 personal identification. That's the extent of it. There are things there that you and I should -- well, you share the knowledge of me that I believe prompted you to use those particular phrase or words. And I don't want to go into what those things are because of the privilege and knowledge -- privilege characteristic of them. Q. So you think I used those terms in describing your conduct in the Gulf Stream case because of something I know about you? A. Well, to answer your question, I think someone who wanted to appear more evenhanded and statesmanlike would have been more accurately -- would have been more accurate and not as inflammatory in the language. I think that the language there in stating things that are known not to be true was meant to capitalize on your information about me. Q. So you think I'm alleging that you're involved in a conspiracy with -- you're involved with a conspiracy with Mr. Chandler and Mr. Roeder and the O'Boyles and the O'Boyle Law Firm, where you were trying to file hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of serial requests against Gulf Stream, and you think that those allegations shouldn't have been made -- MR. HANNA: Object to form. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 179 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. -- by me as the attorney for Gulf Stream? MR. HANNA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: Well, if it was written by Clarence Darrow, it would be a lot different than this. This is very inflammatory and meant to, I think, push those buttons that I referred to earlier. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Is there anything else in there -- is there any facts in this case that I've alleged that relate to any facts in 2006 or 1998? A. Any facts that relate to 1998? Q. Any facts that are alleged in here, any of the events or facts that even exist in 2006 or 1998. A. I don't mean to be difficult, but the word "facts" and "relate," I don't see any facts there that would relate to 1998. But the word relation, I have a hard time answering that because I'm not sure what the definition of the word you're using in your question. Or how you're intending to use them. Q. Are you aware that Joanne O'Connor drafted the allegations on page 12 regarding disguising their involvement, ill- conceived requests, requests were obscure and purely harassing? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 180 Are you aware that Joanne O'Connor drafted that language? A. I'm sorry? MR. HANNA: Object to form. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you aware that Joanne O'Connor drafted that language, not me? MR. HANNA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: I have no idea how you split up your workload. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So you just presumed I prepared this? A. Should I not assume that you edited that or had any involvement at all in that? Q. You think that people are picking words in the pleading that are designed to make you mad -- is that what you're saying? Or push your hot buttons? A. That's what I testified to; push my hot buttons. I didn't say make me mad. Q. And you wouldn't expect when a lawyer pleads that a conspiracy is occurring, that the words would be inflammatory? A. I would hope they would be truthful. Q. Well, I think that's what we're going to have a jury decide. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 181 A. Right. This is a deposition. So can we move on? Q. So I've pled -- we've pled unclean hands, and that there are bogus not - for - profits and alter egos and fictitious names; and it's an enterprise to inundate the town with thousands of public records requests. So that has nothing to do with anything in 2008, right? A. I just said it does. Q. It does have -- what does this have to do with 2008? Is there anything you told me in 2008 that deals with these facts? A. Those aren't facts. Q. With these allegations. Do these allegations relate to anything that happened in 2000 -- in 1998? A. The way they're written, I believe they do. Q. So your full -- your whole objection to me representing Gulf Stream is that I -- I write things, I'm writing things in a way to get you upset? MR. HANNA: Object to form. THE WITNESS: No. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Then what's the basis for your objection? A. Well, it goes much more than that. Q. What is it? A. You have personal knowledge. You have Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 182 represented me and my wife. You know things about us. You're now in a position where those things can be very helpful to the town and unfairly disadvantage me. Q. And what is the nature of these things that I know about? Your wife isn't even sure she met with me, so... A. I'm not sure your definition of the word "nature." Q. Are you saying financial affairs; I know something about your financial affairs? I know -- what is the nature? What is the nature of this area that I know about that you believe is giving me some unfair advantage? A. I would like to give you a specific answer. Give me a specific question, please. Q. What is the nature of, or the area of, knowledge that you say I have about you that you believe gives me an unfair advantage when I don't even remember you? MR. HANNA: I'm going to object and instruct the witness to refrain from answering anything that would divulge any kind of privilege you have with Mr. Sweetapple but also with Heath King, regarding your therapist and therapy that you had after the -- involving the Ocean Ridge incident. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 183 Q. Was I ever present for any therapy with you and Mr. King? A. No. Q. Do you have any information that I've ever talked to Mr. King about you, Dr. King? A. Yes. Q. And what basis do you believe I talked to Dr. King about you? A. My memory. Q. What do you remember? A. That would be privileged. Q. Your memory, or you're saying something I said? A. The items you're asking me to disclose, I consider privileged. Q. Okay. So you're moving to disqualify me, but you're not going to testify as to what it is you believe that I know that somehow is related, or that somehow gives me an unfair advantage. So you're going to make a motion, but you're not going to give the testimony or the nature of it. A. I struggled with how that might play out, how I could communicate to the court without further jeopardizing myself. And I'm still not sure how that is Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 184 going to work, but... Q. Are you -- A. I'm hoping -- if I could finish -- I'm hoping Judge Blanc is certainly more knowledgeable than me in those affairs, and he might be able to suggest a way. Q. Are you aware that in 30 years of referring people or recommending people, friends, family, clients, strangers that I just meet to go to Heath King, that I have never, ever asked Heath King to be a witness for me in any case? MR. HANNA: Object to form. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Are you aware of that? MR. HANNA: Council is testifying. THE WITNESS: I'm not aware of that. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Are you going to actually lie and say that I sent you to Heath King for the purpose of having him testify in a case? A. See, this goes back to what I was talking about with that pleading. You're asking me if I'm going to lie? Q. Are you going to lie? Are you saying that somehow I told you to go to Heath King so that he would be a witness in a case? Because if so, I will call Dr. King in and establish that I've sent -- recommended Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 185 over a hundred people to him, and I've never once, nor would I ever ask him to be a witness in a case. MR. HANNA: Object to the form. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I refer people to him to try to talk privately with him about their issues and concerns. MR. HANNA: Object to fprm. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Rather than to talk to me about their issues and concerns. MR. HANNA: Object to form. Counsel's testifying. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Is it your position that you went to Heath King as part of some lawsuit? A. Okay. I'll try to answer your questions, the multiple questions. Q. Let me ask you this question. Is it your position that you went to Heath King -- MR. HANNA: Again, let him finish. THE WITNESS: You don't want me to answer the question. MR. HANNA: I'm advising you, be careful about disclosing any kind of privileged communication you had with Mr. Sweetapple or with Dr. King, or Heath Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 186 King. THE WITNESS: He is asking me, I believe -- I'm sorry. I'll answer the question. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Is it your understanding that you were going to Heath King for purposes of him testifying in some case? A. No. Q. Okay. A. And to answer the other part of your question, no, I would not lie. Q. So was there any time that you ever heard me talk to Dr. King about you? A. I'm sorry? Q. Was there ever any time where I was present and you were present, even on the phone or in person, where I talked to Dr. King while you were there? A. I can't go there. That's privileged. Q. Did that happen ever? Not what was said. Did it ever happen where you and me and Dr. King were in the same room? A. No. Q. Did it ever happen we're on the same phone call? A. No. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 187 Q. Did you -- did I ever tell you that I had spoken to Dr. King? MR. HANNA: Okay. Again, you're getting into privilege here. THE WITNESS: I think that is privileged. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So you're not going to offer any testimony on that? MR. HANNA: You're getting into a position where you're forcing your former client to divulge communications he had with you or with his physician. MR. SWEETAPPLE: If you're telling me you're not going to be testifying about that at the hearing -- MR. HANNA: I'm not -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: You're invoking the privilege. It can't be a sword and a shield. I will move on. MR. HANNA: I understand that. MR. SWEETAPPLE: You've invoked the privilege. MR. HANNA: You are also putting your client in a position where he has to divulge these communications. MR. SWEETAPPLE: No. No. You've put your Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 188 client in a position where there is no substantial relationship, and now you're trying a nonsense fallback argument that I'm also trying to pierce and you're also -- MR. ROEDER: Is there a question? MR. SWEETAPPLE: -- trying to invoke the privilege, and you can't invoke the privilege and then hide behind the shield. MR. ROEDER: Sir, ask the question and stop pontificating. THE WITNESS: Oh, just to clarify. They didn't tell me to invoke the privilege there. I just know that I cannot, on the record, tell you what I discussed with you and what I discussed with Mr. King, or Dr. King. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And you have no intention of doing that at the trial, or the hearing in this case? A. I'm hoping that Judge Blanc will give me some opportunity to communicate to the court without further -- causing the damage that I suspect has already been caused. Q. So you have no intention of telling the court anything that you said to Dr. King; and you have no intention of telling the court anything you and I Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 189 discussed. But you want the court to conclude that I know something about you that gives me an advantage. A. I never said that. Q. Do you believe there's something I know about you that is private that gives me an advantage in this litigation? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And is it something psychological, financial? What is the nature of it? A. Again, definition of nature. I don't know what it is you're asking me. Q. Is there some kind of -- you're saying I have some knowledge about your psyche that other people don't have that gives me an advantage? A. I'm not going to characterize it any further. Q. Are you saying I have some knowledge about your finances that gives me some advantage? A. It has nothing to do with finances. Q. Does it have to do with your temperament or your medical condition or something? A. I'm sorry. Is this like 21 questions? Q. Well, I have to respond to your complaint that you filed, okay. Your motion. And your motion doesn't set any of this out. So I'm trying to find out, since I pretty much have -- I believe established there is no Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 190 substantial relationship between what I'm doing now and what happened 17 years ago. Now I'm trying to figure out if there's some other ground that you are asserting for disqualifying me, and I'm clueless. Okay. So I guess I'll just move on. MR. ROEDER: Finally. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Because you're invoking the privilege as to anything you discussed with Dr. King, which I understand; and you're invoking the privilege as to anything you discussed with me, so you're not allowing me to inquire into that. A. Well -- Q. So I guess I'll move on. And I guess you'll have a private conversation with Judge Blanc that I won't be a party to, and you will ask him to do whatever it is you want him to do. A. If I can answer that, which I think is a question. I'm hoping that Judge Blanc has an answer that maybe in camera, or how the process works, and it will be up to Judge Blanc to decide. Q. So you think -- A. I'm not going to ask Judge Blanc not to disclose anything to you. Q. So you're going to ask for an in camera Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 191 hearing? A. If that's the phrase. I'm not sure. Q. Before Judge Blanc? A. I'm not sure that's the proper phrase. And pardon me if I use these legal terms that I'm not completely familiar with. That is my intention, that the judge will find some way to resolve this particular issue we have. Q. And you can't tell me what the issue is or the nature of the issue. A. I think we've already covered that. Q. What is it? A. That there is information that you have that I think would be very damaging to me that I do not want the town to have. If you haven't told them yet, I appreciate that, but I don't know. Q. I have no idea what you're talking about. So can you tell me generally what type of information this is? A. Not more than what I've already said. Q. Is it medical information? A. Not more than what I've already said. Q. You're not going to answer is it medical information? You said it's not financial. Is it medical? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 192 A. Not more than what I've already said. Q. Is it psychological? A. Bob, I know this is your technique, but I've said all I can say on that. Q. I'm trying to defend a motion, and you basically said nothing. Obviously, when I file my motion for summary judgment and sanctions, I'll point out that there's been no answer -- MR. HANNA: Just ask a question. MR. ROEDER: You said you were going to move on and ask questions. Please do. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Let's go to some of these exhibits. This is an October 9, 2006 Daytimer. It is stapled to some drawings. Is this drawing related to the Daytimer? A. Those are independent records. And that drawing is related to the permit issue, in addition to the brick wall that was the issue of that conservatory. Q. Was this -- this knowledge that you say I have about you, when was this obtained? What year? A. I became aware of it in 1999. Q. You became aware of it. And I became aware of it in 1999? A. Towards the end of 198, and then corresponds Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 An 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 193 to the last visit I had with Dr. King. Q. And what year was that? A. 1999. Q. So the last time you saw Dr. King was 1999? A. Yeah. It is right there. Q. So the knowledge I have, that you say I have about you, I got in 1999? A. Yes. Q. Must have been real radical. MR. HANNA: Ask a question and not editorialize. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. This is so ridiculous. Can I have the next Exhibit? (Defendant's Exhibit No. G was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. So I take it with regard to what I've marked as Exhibit G, which is your October 2006 Daytimer, that when it says "Sweetapple," it is a Post It that you put on it after you found -- after you found this record. A. I put the Post -It on it for the purpose of making -- finding the record on the page more quicker. A little arrow Roy on the Post -It. Q. That's a recent -- Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 194 A. The little Post -It is recent. I don't know why it has been -- Q. It says here, Thrasher rejects conservatory. Says new structure doesn't -- A. Would you like me to read it? Q. Would you read that to me, please. A. The Post -It is pointing to an entry on October 11th that says, Thrasher rejects conservatory. Says new structure. Doesn't care about old screen. Sweetapple says build it anyway. Exclamation point. Q. " Sweetapple says build it anyway." MR. HANNA: What year is that? THE WITNESS: 2006, I believe. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. Okay. And this is written in pencil. A. I don't know. Q. And do you have this original page? A. The lawyers have it. Q. So you can produce this so it can be examined forensically? MR. HANNA: Yes. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'm going to want that. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And it looks like you've written in different -- that is the only pencil written on that Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 M. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 195 page, correct? Everything else is written in ink. A. No. This looks like pencil as well. The notation that says "Kirk Bowden 8284338392," and other note on here that says "tarp on roof." Looks like a sharper pencil, but when you examine all the books, whenever that happens, you'll see there's probably half a dozen pens and pencils used, whatever was convenient at the time I•was making the record. Q. You called me in October 9, 2006, you believe, about building something, and I said "build it anyway." A. I believe it would be October 26th. Probably not that date, because my habit is to just open up the book. If I need to make a note for future reference, I might have written it on a date other than when it actually happened. Q. This isn't part of your motion anyway. Okay. So we have that as G. You don't have anything about 2006 in your motion. You have a 1998. A. It is just a production of a record I uncovered. Q. I understand. And then the next thing is a drawing of something. A. That is a sketch of a conservatory that was Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 196 supplied to the Town of Gulf Stream and rejected because Mr. Thrasher maintained that my screen enclosure that had been destroyed in Hurricane Wilma was somehow not attached to the house and, therefore, the replacement screen was not attached and, therefore, it was a separate structure, and it was going to have to go through all sorts of approval processes. Q. And I told you you should build it anyway; just put it in. A. When I talked to you about the details of that, you said replace your screen. Put it in. Q. Okay. Quick phone call. Didn't bill you? A. I don't think it was very long a phone call. I don't even know it was a phone call. But, yeah, we communicated, obviously. Q. How? A phone call? A. I don't remember. Q. Okay. And then the next one is December 17. Where is anything that has to do with me? A. If I might examine, I'll explain. I produced this record because I didn't know whether it was something you would be interested in or not. Basically this is the quotation from the Brazilian fellows who build the brick wall, and it shows the value of $3,000 for their labor for that portion. Because the record, Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 197 later on, that we decided it was a cost benefit analysis, that record would have factored into that other record. So I supplied it not knowing if it was any value to you or not. Q. This is how much you paid for that? A. It was -- it was 3,000 for the brick labor in the back. It all came to $10,000. Q. You never discussed that with me? A. Just the -- Q. The cost or -- A. It just supports -- I don't know if the proper word is foundation, but it supports the calculation later. Q. There is a note here. Sweetapple note. Cost. Cost benefit analysis, 5,000. Sweetapple to fight. 4,450 to remove. And so I basically told you, you shouldn't get involved in this. A. I think I came to that conclusion myself. But the idea was that the money I had into it was less than the money it was going to cost to fight it. Was it really worth it to me, and I reached the decision it wasn't. MR. HANNA: What is the date on that one? THE WITNESS: That was December 29 of 2006. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 198 Q. So you reached -- you did the math yourself and reached that decision. A. Yeah. But it has a reference here that 5,000 to Sweetapple. So for some reason I thought it was going to cost 5,000 to have you go after Mr. Thrasher, and I decided not to. Q. Do you know if you had a conversation with me at that time? A. I don't know why I would have that number otherwise. I believe I did have that correspondence with you. Q. You don't have any recollection of it? A. I remember speaking, but I can't tell you if it was over the phone, whether I ran into you at Panera's, or whatever was the place we would go. I don't know. Q. There was no Panera's then. A. That's what I'm saying. Whatever the place was. I don't remember. I just remember you said get serious. You don't have a whole bunch -- you didn't -- you didn't have a whole bunch of years left, but you said don't waste your time on this. Something to that effect. Q. All right. There's a copy of your permit. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 199 This is your drawings. Anything else? A. That's the brick -- the document you're looking at now, which I'm not sure if you gave it an exhibit number, that's the brick new wall on the seawall that Mr. Thrasher permitted, and then said get it out. Q. Okay. So you said "Sweetapple to call town manager." A. There was a Post -It on that, which when you get the record you'll see the Post -It. That's what I had on there. Q. And do you know if you ever spoke to me about calling the town manager on this? A. My memory is hazy on that. I believe I did. Q. So you don't have any specific recollection of a conversation? A. I don't know if it was phone, but I have this idea that -- yeah, I think I remember that we had that discussion. It was all part of the previous record as well for the $5,000. Q. But you never paid me $5,000 and never hired me to do anything. A. No. At the time you were giving me the same service you were giving Emille Dansue (phonetic). Q. Emille was a friend and the mayor, and you're saying I was doing it for free. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Dansue? A. I don't know if it was at the time. I don't know. Q. I think I was representing him in 191, 192. A. Yeah. Q. Years before this. Probably five years before this. A. The reason I mentioned it is because in my mind that was the rationale for -- Q. I was being a nice guy. You called and I said -- and that was it. A. Yeah. It was good advice. I appreciate the advice you gave me. Q. Okay. A. You're a fine lawyer, and I benefited greatly by your help. Q. So let's see if there's anything else that has Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Pugc 200 A. He was also the father of one of my attorneys, Charlotte. That is how I adopted my children. And we had conversations about the Dansues and... Q. I don't remember that. Okay. A. We had conversations -- well, okay. Q. So you were represented -- you know Charlotte? A. Yes. Q. And at the time, was I representing Mayor Dansue? A. I don't know if it was at the time. I don't know. Q. I think I was representing him in 191, 192. A. Yeah. Q. Years before this. Probably five years before this. A. The reason I mentioned it is because in my mind that was the rationale for -- Q. I was being a nice guy. You called and I said -- and that was it. A. Yeah. It was good advice. I appreciate the advice you gave me. Q. Okay. A. You're a fine lawyer, and I benefited greatly by your help. Q. So let's see if there's anything else that has Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 201 my name on it in stick -em's. This is -- I'm looking at January. I'm not going to mark -- I guess I'll mark this because -- I'll make this a composite. I'll make this H, because it the Stickum with my name and December 31, 2006. This is H. (Defendant's Exhibit No. H was marked for identification.) BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. And then E is what you provided. It was E to your motion, but I'm going to make it G for the deposition. It says "CFO 1999." A. The purpose of producing that document was just to show you the cover page of the entire datebook that was pulled out of a binder. Q. And then it looks like this is January of that year, right? It says Heath King. A. That Post -It was added after the fact to help identify where the record was on the page. Q. So Heath King down here. A. Right. Q. And Heath King, on the 12th of January. Any other reason this is given to me? 12:30 also. Oh, 12:30 time. Is that the time? A. Yes. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 202 Q. So you met with Heath in January. Okay. Then "Heath- cancel," it says. A. I can't read it from here. That says "Heath, cancel 2/1 at 8:30 a.m. So this record states that on February 1st, at the line that represents 8:30, there's a notation that has "Heath- cancel." Q. So you canceled the appointment with Heath. A. These are records I thought you would want that just shows the visits I had with Heath King. Q. How many times did you see Heath King? A. It was for perhaps a six, seven -month period. Q. How many times did you see him? A. Once a month, maybe twice a month sometimes. Q. So a total of seven times, eight times? A. Well, no. It was twice a month. I don't know. You do the math. The record is right there. Q. This is all your meetings with him. A. Every meeting would be documented. Q. So you only saw him in 1999. A. I think we started in '98. Not sure. Q. December of '98? A. It would be under the '98 datebook. Q. Okay. And you met with him for like an hour every time? Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 203 A. I think it was 50 minutes maybe. Q. Okay. A. Paid for an hour. Q. So all of this is meetings with Heath. A. I don't know. You'd have to look through every page. Q. Heath. Heath. Heath King.. In March. Heath King in April 4/7. Heath King 4/15. Then it says Sweetapple with a Stickum on April 19, I guess 1999. What is this Stickum with my name on it? A. Again, the Post -It with your name and arrow is just for the sake of convenience to see where the record was written on the date. Q. What does it say? A. The record is on the 20th, and it's basically in the middle. It doesn't look like it is attributed to any particular time. It says Boynton zoning issue, W /land use, which means "with land use." Talked to Sweetapple. Zoning director. City manager, question mark, question mark. So I had written in my book to talk to you. I hadn't -- this isn't memorialized. This is me making a note to call you. Q. Should I call or question mark. A. Yes. Well, no. There is no question mark Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 204 next to you. Next to the zoning director there is a question mark and next to the city manager there is a question mark. In other words, that was the issues I was going to discuss with you. Q. Did you call me on this day? A. I don't have a recollection of that. I just came across the notation. Q. Okay. And then the next one is Heath. A. I'm sorry? Q. The next one is Heath. A. That's what it says. Yes. Q. Another meeting with Heath King. That was the last meeting you had, April? A. I think this notation to call you. Is that the last document? Q. Call Sweetapple about Heath. A. Okay. Q. Is that there? A. Yeah. This is -- yeah. This is April 23, 1999. The notation I wrote was, called Sweetapple about Heath. On April 22nd, there's notation at 3:45 with Heath's name on it, so that was a meeting, the very last meeting I had with Heath King. And then I had notation the next day to call you about Heath. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. Page 205 Q. And did you? A. Yes, I did. Q. Okay. So that was in 1999. A. Yes. Q. And do you recall that conversation? A. Yes. Q. How long did it take? A. Just a few moments. A few minutes. Q. And where were you when you called me? A. I don't remember that. Q. Where was I? A. I don't know that either. The other end of the line. Q. Q. Was anybody else present? A. No. Q. Do you recall what you said? A. Yes. Q. And do you recall what I said? A. Oh, yes. Q. Okay. And you're not going to tell me, obviously. Or you're going to tell A. Leave that up to Judge Blanc. Q. Okay. MR. SWEETAPPLE: I think that what I'll do is suspend your deposition, and I'll ask the court for Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 206 guidance on that, because it is pretty hard for me to prepare for a hearing and defend myself, when you're going to make your case privately, I guess, at some later date to the judge and not put any allegations in a motion and not give me any general information that I can verify by asking someone else. So I'll suspend, and we'll take it up the confidential matters that you have raised and the other issues in this depo and the last depo. And I will order it. CROSS (CHRISTOPHER O'HARE) BY MR. HANNA: Q. I just -- when were you referred to Heath King? A. Sometime in '98; the end of '98. Q. When you were referred to Heath King, who referred you to Heath King? A. You're going to lose your microphone. That would be Mr. Bob Sweetapple. Q. And did you have discussions with him about your personal life before he referred you? A. Yes. Q. The incident -- or the 2006 conservatory, what did that issue involve with the Town of Gulf Stream? What was the -- how did the issue come up with the Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 207 conservatory? Was it something with the hurricane? A. Hurricane Wilma destroyed part of the house, the screen enclosure. I made a sketch for what Shelly and I wanted to replace it with, another screen enclosure with a slightly different shape, same footprint. I took the sketch in to Mr. Thrasher, who rejected it based on what I thought was unreasonable information. Q. Okay. A. Interpretation of the code. Q. And that was to replace the structure that had been destroyed by the hurricane? A. Mr. Thrasher contended that the structure did not -- it was a separate structure independent of the house, and it was to replace the structure that had been torn up by the hurricane. Q. And you talked to Mr. Sweetapple about that issue? A. Yes. Q. What time -- when did you talk to him about it? Before you applied for the permit or you dealt with Mr. Thrasher at Gulf Stream? A. No. I talked to him when Mr. Thrasher came down with the decision I thought was unreasonable. Q. What did you do after you talked to Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 208 Mr. Sweetapple? A. Hired a contractor to put it up. Q. Did you put that up? A. Yes. Q. And has anything happened regarding the conservatory? A. No. As a matter of fact, I believe -- well, I can't say. Nothing else happened. Q. And the actions that you took, was that based on the conversation you had with Mr. Sweetapple? A. Oh, yes. MR. HANNA: I just need to look at two things. I thought we were going to go until 9:00 o'clock. MR. SWEETAPPLE: It's only a quarter to seven, but I have suspended, so I didn't want to go through.... MR. HANNA: I just want to get some stuff on the record. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Obviously I have questions about the specific public records requests in this case, but I'm -- done. MR. HANNA: I just wanted to get a few things MR. SWEETAPPLE: But that's until we actually Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 209 move beyond this hearing. I guess I'm going to have a lot of questions about public records. MR. HANNA: Here we go. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Which is what these cases are about. THE WITNESS: This case is about getting the records. It is open and shut. If the record exists, I asked for it. I don't have it. MR. SWEETAPPLE: That's what you think. It is about -- THE WITNESS: I'm spending all this money. MR. SWEETAPPLE: -- it is about abuse by a group of people. That's totally unacceptable in a civilized society. BY MR. HANNA: Q. When did you move from Harbor Drive in Ocean Ridge? A. Ninety -- maybe '93, 194. Q. Where did you move to? A. Gulf Stream. MR. HANNA: I don't have anything further at this point pending the -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'll take a copy. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 6:48. This marks the end of the deposition. Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 THE STATE OF FLORIDA) COUNTY OF PALM BEACH) Page 211 I, the undersigned authority, certify that the aforementioned witness personally appeared before me and was duly sworn. Dated this 4th day of March, 2015 Debra Duran - Bornstein, RPR, CLR Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission Expires: 8/20/15 My Commission No.: EE 112218 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 212 : mDo -140 �QIWVEMWD THE STATE OF FLORIDA) COUNTY OF PALM BEACH) I, Debra Duran - Bornstein, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at large, do hereby certify that I was authorized to and did report said deposition in stenotype; and that the foregoing pages are a true and correct transcription of my shorthand notes of said deposition. I further certify that said deposition was taken at the time and place hereinabove set forth and that the taking of said deposition was commenced and completed as hereinabove set out. I further certify that I am not attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor am I a relative or employee of any attorney or counsel of party connected with the action, nor am I financially interested in the action. The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means unless under the direct control and /or direction of the certifying reporter. Dated this 4th day of March, 2015. �� .. I A 1 Debra Duran - Bornstein, RPR, CLR Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission Expires: 8/20/15 My Commission No.: EE 112218 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 March 4, 2015 Mark Hanna, Esquire 401 South County Road Suite 3272 Palm Beach, Florida 33480 In Re: O'Hare vs. City of Gulf Stream The referenced transcript has been completed and awaits reading and signing. Please have your client review your copy of the transcript at your convenience or if a copy was not ordered, to call our office at the below - listed number to schedule an appointment between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 3:30 p.m., Monday through Friday to make an appointment to come to our office and read the deposition. If desired, your client may also opt to waive signature. If so, please have your client sign their name at the bottom and mail to our office to be attached to the original transcript. If the transcript is not reviewed and signed within 30 days, the original, which has already been sent to the ordering attorney, may be filed with the Clerk of the Court. Very truly yours, Debra Duran & Associates 224 Datura Street, Suite 402 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 PH: 561) 313 -8000 I hereby waive my signature: CC: All Counsel Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Page 213 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ME 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 214 C E R T I F I C A T E THE STATE OF FLORIDA) COUNTY OF PALM BEACH) I hereby certify that I have read the foregoing deposition by me given, and that the statements contained herein are true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief, with the exception of any corrections or notations made on the errata sheet, if one was executed. Dated this day of 2014. CHRISTOPHER O'HARE Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 215 E R R A T A S H E E T IN RE: O'HARE V CITY OF GULF STREAM C.R. DD DEPOSITION OF: CHRISTOPHER O'HARE TAKEN: 2 -19 -2015 DO NOT WRITE ON TRANSCRIPT - ENTER CHANGES HERE PAGE # LINE # CHANGE REASON Please forward the original signed errata sheet to this office so that copies may be distributed to all parties. Under penalty of perjury, I declare that I have read my deposition and that it is true and correct subject to any changes in form or substance entered here. 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173:8 182:1200:6 representing 167:18 171:22 181:17 200:8,12 represents 202:6 request 132:2 137:12 138:20 139:5 140:15,19 142:4 146:7,8 153:10 155:24 158:17 160:6 requests 128:16, 19 129:23 130:9,25 131:21 132:10 134:6,10 135:1,3,6, 16 136:25 140:1,5, 9 141:3,4 142:15 144:7,11,13,25 145:4,12 146:1,7, 10,16 147:1,13 148:8,21,25 151:16,19 152:2,12 153:14,21,24 154:3,4,5,9,11,17, 20,23 155:1,2,4,6, 8,9,10,11,13,15,22, 23,25 156:2,8,13 159:4,13,14,23 174:11 177:24 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 Index: quotation- Roeder 178:23 179:24 181:6 208:21 requirement 167:4 requires 166:21 research 135:24 143:7 resolve 127:24 128:11 191:7 respond 135:16 138:14,23,25 139:5 189:22 responds 152:7 response 133:7 173:1,7 responses 139:9 154:23 result 167:9 171:6 retaliation 166:1 return 127:21,24 128:12 review 161:6 RICO 143:4,19 156:23 162:13 rid 149:9 Ridge 145:21,22 165:13,21 166:3 167:1,3,24 182:25 209:17 ridiculous 193:13 rights 166:15 Ring 161:18 Rita 139:22140:6 151:20,24 152:7,8 Rita's 152:4 robocall 145:25 Roeder 138:18 141:2 144:16 145:7,10,12,15,24 146:17 150:10 152:22 153:1 158:15,159:18,25 160:21 163:13,23 164:1,8 178:20 188:5,9 190:6 192:10 rolling 129:10 roof 195:4 room 186:21 Roy 193:24 rule 173:24 174:4 ruled 161:19 ruling 161:21,25 run 175:3 sake 203:12 sanctions 166:6 192:7 sat 135:11 scheme 130:25 177:24 scope 143:10144:2 158:13,16 160:25 162:12 163:16,20 164:12,23 screen 194:9 196:2,5,11207:3,4 search 137:20 138:4 seawall 172:14 199:4 seconds 134:11,13 138:20,22 seek 162:19 seeking 132:11 162:18,21923,25 163:5 seeks 162:15,20 selected 176:9 send 137:21 138:13,22,23 169:24 sender 142:17 sending 139:12 sense 139:15 separate 196:6 207:14 September 135:17 141:4,25 142:8 148:19 sequence 156:2 serial 145:12 178:22 serve 152:1 served 149:11,14, 16,24 150:3 151:14,16,19,22 152:11,18 161:22, 24 service 177:25 199:23 set 127:10 145:25 189:24 settle 128:18132:8 164:5 settled 167:1 seven -month 202:12 sham 171:3 shape 207:5 share 177:19178:3 sharper 195:5 Shelly 207:3 shield 187:18 188:8 short 175:2,4 176:1 shots 150:19 show 146:21 154:1 160:16 201:14 showed 168:10 showing 146:15 shows 163:20 196:24 202:10 shut 209:7 silly 177:15 similar 161:12,23 162:7 164:21,22 166:16 similarities 166:20 singular 132:3 sir 147:14 148:19 155:21 188:9 sit 162:16 sketch 195:25 207:3,6 slightly 207:5 society 209:14 sorts 196:7 sought 134:1 sounds 140:24 141:1 speaking 166:5 170:22 198:14 special 147:24 177:25 specific 135:22 136:1 169:15 182:14,15 199:14 208:21 specifically 162:15 169:4 173:23 speculation 163:18,22 speech 128:9 spend 134:21 spending 209:11 spent 154:17 split 180:9 spoke 150:2 168:20 169:23 199:11 spoken 187:2 standard 167:9 171:5 stapled 192:15 Index: rolling - Sweetapple Star 129:18 start 134:2 136:14 139:11 153:18 started 145:6,23 152:6 202:21 starts 177:22 state 129:16 131:21 150:25 159:9 stated 149:22 150:1 states 202:5 statesmanlike 178:12 stating 178:15 statute 171:19 stick -cm's 201:1 Stickum 201:5 203:9,10 stipulate 158:15 stop 156:4188:9 straight 159:15 strangers 184:8 strategies 131:8 Stream 127:7,24 128:12 130:5 132:1,9 140:7 143:3,10 144:14 146:2 147:14 148:25 156:7,12, 17,19 164:24 165:10,18,20,24,25 167:18 168:1,5 170:14,20 171:10 172:16 178:9,23 179:2 181:17 196:1206:24 207:22 209:20 Stream's 173:1 strike 131:16 162:23 strong 127:23 128:11 structure 169:16 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 194:4,9 196:6 207:11,13,14,15 struggled 183:23 stuff 171:20 208:18 subjective 176:25 submitted 147:7 submitter 148:12 substantial 167:5 190:1 substantially 165:10,17,20 166:2,9,11 173:23, 24 sue 161:16 sued 131:2164:14 sufficient 176:6,7 suggest 160:8 184:5 summary 192:7 Sunday 135:8 supplied 196:1 197:3 supports 197:11, 12 suspect 188:21 suspend 205:25 206:7 suspended 208:16 Sweetapple 127:6 130:2,15 138:21 144:19 145:16 146:5,19,23 148:18 149:21 150:12,22 152:24 153:2,7 154:10 155:20 156:11 157:6,14, 19,25 158:3,5,12, IS 159:1,19160:7, 17,19,24 163:10, 15925 164:4,11 166:5,8 167:14 172:24 175:16,23 179:1,9 180:5,11 181:21 182:23 183:1 184:12,15 185:4,8,13,25 186:4 187:6,13,17, 21,25 188:6,16 190:7 193:12,17,20 194:9,11,14,22,23 197:14,15 198:1,5 199:6 203:9,19 204:16,20 205:24 206:19 207:17 208:1,10,15,20,25 209:4,9,12,23 Sweetapple's 170:17 sword 187:18 T table 151:2 tailored 174:21 175:9 takes 137:21,23 taking 140:1151:2 171:20 talk 130:24 132:8 167:25 168:1 174:7 185:5,9 186:13 203:21 207:20 talked 131:17 183:6,8 186:17 196:10 203:18 207:17,23,25 talking 130:11 136:10 143:4 146:12 161:5,25 163:7 167:20 171:21 177:12 184:19 191:17 talks 127:8 167:24 tarp 195:4 Taylor 139:22 140:6 151:25 technique 131:18, 19 192:3 telling 170:19 187:13 188:23,25 tells 150:18 temper 175:2,4 temperament 189:19 ten 129:8 156:16 term 174:23 terms 178:8191:5 testified 152:5 180:18 testify 143:15 184x8 testifying 184:13 185:12 186:6 187:14 testimony 183:21 187:7 theme 134:25 therapist 182:24 therapy 182:24 183:2 thereabouts 139:11 thing 166:19 195:23 things 128:23 150:8, 151:13 170:23 175:7, 177:9,10 178:2,6, 16 181:17,18 182:1,2,4 208:12, 23 thinking 150:17 177:16 Thirteen 133:5 Thirty 134:13 138:22 thought 133:23 135:10,18,20 136:9 140:17 150:19 198:5 202:9 207:7, 24 208:13 thousand 159:12 thousands 131:12 137:13,14 174:10 181:6 Thrasher 147:14 148:8,21 149:1,4,7, 23 150:6,9,14 151:20,22 152:2,7, 11 154:18 166:17 168:8 194:3,8 196:2 198:6 199:5 207:6,13,22,23 threats 163:23 three -plus 169:12 throwing 136:12 time 127:4129:12 134:21 135:7,10, 13,21 139:9,20 149:2 151:7 152:20,23 153:12 162:19 169:13 170:10 175:7,18,21 176:1 179:19 186:12,15 193:4 195:8 198:9,23 199:22 200:8,10 201:24 202:25 203:17 207:20 209:24 times 136:5154:4 202:11,13,15 told 136:5149:3,6, 9,15 151:10,12 152:1 165:8,9 170:5, 175:16 177:6 181:10 184:23 191:15 196:8 197:17 topic 136:16,20,22 torn 207:16 total 171:3 202:15 totally 209:13 town 127:21,25 128:12,22 130:5 132:9 133:8 136:5, 6,10 137:12 140:6 143.2,9 146:1 147:14 148:25 149:11,12,14,16, 24,25 150:3118 151:14,15 152:3 156:6,12,19,22 Index: Sweetapple's- wanted 157:1 166:15 171:23 172:25 174:10 181:6 182:3 191:15 196:1 199:6,12 206:24 town's 154:22 towns 156:25 transaction 173:25 transcript 157:14 158:22 transmissions 133:25 trespass 138:8,10 trial 158:21 188:18 trials 157:15 troublesome 137:22 true 130:17 141:8 177:9 178:16 truthful 180:23 turn 155:14, 171:21 turned 128:25 type 130:1 191:18 types 151:4 typo 142:19 U Uh -huh 133:2 unacceptable 209:13 unaware 130:18, 20 unclean 174:9,15 181:3 uncovered 195:22 understand 144:3 149:19 152:9 166:19 171:4 187:20 190:10 195:23 Debra Duran & Associates Phone 561.313.8000 Fax 561.835.8586 understanding 186:5 undertake 167:7 undertook 159:21 undo 173:19 unethical 131:9 unfair 182:12,18 183:20 unfairly 182:3 unfavorably 175:1 unnecessary 176:15 unreasonable 140:8 207:7,24 updated 157:18 158:7,9 upset 181:18 MA verified 173:1 verify 206:6 violating 143:16 166:15 violation 167:1 171:11 violations 166:16 visit 127:8193:1 visits 202:10 volunteered 139:6 W W/land 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