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HomeMy Public PortalAboutComprehensive Water Planning -- 2012-07-09 Minutes • 0‘9 \\V1la UW / � o� a�o�flsq F°%�/ Comprehensive Water Planning °' Town of Brewster F, - Committee L,i i co= 2198 Main Street 0 rrrf�lai° y Brewster, Massachusetts 02631-1898 it- '��ST (508) 896-3701 x1233 iiiiimminiti000\`°o\\°\\ FAX(508) 896-8089 Date Approved:8/13/12 Vote:6-0 TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES OF COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLANNING COMMITTEE (CWPC) Regular Meeting Monday, July 9, 2012 at 4:30 pm Brewster Town Office Building Chairman Lem Skidmore convened the CWPC meeting at 4:31 pm in the Brewster Town Office Building with members, Elizabeth Taylor,Joanne Hughes, John O'Reilly, Russell Schell, Dave Bennett, Bruce Evans, Pat Hughes,and Dan Ryan present. Also Present: Sue Leven, Bob Bersin,Jim Gallagher HWG: Mark Nelson Recording or Taping Notification The Chair read"As required by the Open Meeting Law we are informing you That the Town will be audio taping this public meeting. In addition,if anyone else intends to audio tape this meeting they are required to inform the chair." AGENDA Supporting Documents: 7912_A Reg. Recommendations/HWG 1.Citizen Forum 7912_B project schedule/HWG 2.Discussion with Mark Nelson from HWG 7912_C Memo, storm water sites/HWG 3.Status of Pond Project,Development of Phosphorus budget for ponds 7912_D Stormwater retrofit summary/HWG 4.Public Outreach day,BCT&Conservation 7-14-12,Discuss 7912_E Resolution of environmental non compliance Ri iew n 5. Issues,from Russ Schell 5.Rev view minutes from 6/11/12 6.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate 1.Citizen Forum Skidmore announced an event, Opening of the Eddy Sister's Trail, Brewster Community Garden, 5:00 pm Thursday 7/12. The public is invited. He received this information from Peter Johnson. There is another opportunity to walk the trail during the Conservation Day on 7/14. 2. Discussion with Mark Nelson from HWG Project Update and options for the presentation on August 6. Status of Phase 11&Build out Status of Data Synthesis&GIS Discuss GIS mapping options and requirements Follow up on site search for storm water retrofit projects—Discuss ranking and priority Nelson addressed the committee. He referenced the following: 1)An updated outline for the report, initial scope of work. 2) Framework and recommendations. Nelson informed the committee he is looking for comments regarding the outline. 2)Two regulatory sections, in draft format, by Katie Resnick A)framework for water management planning. B)An initial cut at the regulatory recommendations. They have completed the work for the build out. They will be submitting a draft of the report to Leven. They are hoping to have that project wrapped up by July. CWPC 7-9-12.docx Page 1 of 5 Taylor asked about DEP Sub water shed discussion. Nelson explained they met with DEP and more discussion is required. HWG will be following up with Leven. Hughes P asked about Herring River water shed report. Evans asked about a discussion regarding the framework being worked on. The CCC is doing a regional waste water plan that might affect Brewster. He believes this is an interesting subject for discussion. Leven announced that Andrew Gottlieb will be at the BOS meeting tonight at 7pm to provide a regional waste water planning update. The committee discussed regional waste water management system development. Taylor mentioned the CLF lawsuit against DEP. Taylor spoke in favor of a regional plan. The Towns have to show that they are doing something. Nelson stated they are working through the nitrogen loading numbers. August. Nitrogen loading numbers for zone II's in August too. Feedback on outline and two draft sections. Leven suggested a time limit for comments. The committee agreed email or written comments by 7/13 end of day. (The outline, the framework and the regulatory recommendations). HWG will come back regarding the waste water subject. Hughes, P asked if Leven preferred a format for making comments. Leven suggested noting the page and section. They discussed a process. Nelson continued his update. Build out: The draft report is done. Leven will be reviewing it over the next few days. At the 7/23 meeting, Craig Parrerria and Nigel Pickering will present to the committee. This presentation could be part of the public presentation on 8/6. On 7/19 HWG will send a draft presentation to the committee. Hughes, P asked about an interactive presentation for the build out. Nelson confirmed yes. GIS maps were discussed. Leven explained there is a lot of different ways to look at the build out data. Schell asked about generalization regarding build out to quantify where towns are expected to be. TMDL's, etc. Nelson explained further. They will predict a realistic scenario for Pleasant Bay. Leven and Nelson discussed growth estimates further. Storm water retro fit memo: June 20, 2012. Nelson explained the process to the committee. 17 or 18 sites were reviewed. HWG will provide a conceptual design for three sites. A demonstration project, at the Town Hall area near back parking lot is possible. He suggested gathering a group for a day to build a rain garden. Nelson noted this has been done at various places in New England and abroad. Ryan asked about the ranking of the 17 or 18 sites. He asked about the process for funding. Grant money is a possibility. Hughes, J asked f the group needs to decide on which ones should be selected. HWG has recommended seven. The committee discussed which sites might be the best projects. Bennett expressed interest in Breakwater and Long Pond. He would like to see the committee give weight to those projects that the public would support. Hughes P asked the committee to consider the criteria. She stated the highest criteria are public visibility and application to many properties. She is in favor of a rain garden or bioretention project. Schell asked Taylor and Nelson if they think the list of 18 would qualify for grants. Taylor stated yes and asked for serious consideration of a rain garden behind the Town Hall. She noted Long Pond and Breakwater are important too, but more expensive projects. CWPC 7-9-12.docx Page 2 of 5 Hughes, P asked about conceptual designs. Nelson shared an example of a design for Crowell's Bog landing. He stated it is not too far from a conceptual design. Leven explained the ranking criteria used so far. The parking lot at Breakwater and other projects were mentioned as well as the Holly Ave project in the Robinwood subdivision. Skidmore asked the committee about the ranking process. Bennett made a Motion to recommend three sites, Taylor Second as opposed to doing one location. There was further discussion. Hughes, J stated the Town Hall rain garden would be a good demonstration project. Skidmore stated it is transferrable and doable. Bennett likes Long Pond because it serves as a highly visible project and serves the public. Schell agrees with Bennett. Taylor asked Bersin about the Town Hall rain garden. She would like to see the Town involved. Donations/donated labor, etc. Skidmore asked the committee, three sites or one site. Earlier motion —8 Aye, 1 No(Hughes; J)Vote, 8-1 Rank sites Leven will send everyone a list of criteria for ranking from Pat Hughes. Skidmore suggested moving it to the next meeting. Leven will send favorites. Bennett would like to see the sites chosen now. Leven, Skidmore and Bersin discussed the process for determining the sites further. Leven will send the information to the committee and on the 23`d the committee will rank the sites. The committee will review HWG's, Leven's and Miller's lists. Taylor likes Crowell's Bog Road and the rain garden at Town Hall. The rain garden is visible and educational. Process for public meeting on 8/6 Skidmore explained he spoke to Johnson and reminded the committee this meeting is the annual meeting for BCT. The meeting starts at 7pm. 45 min for the presentation. The meeting will be videotaped. Brewster Ladies Library. Nelson: Project Overview Integrated water planning Build out(Highlighting the importance of open space) 30-40 slides total, send to the 19th to the committee (with notes) (Sign or banner) Leven will discuss with BCT Question for Nelson from Schell Schell, Page 13, 7/6, Regulating Status, Mill Pond. Schell asked Nelson to expand. Nelson addressed the question. Nelson explained they are reviewing and leaving a placeholder for the report from Ed Eichner. Schell stated in the original 2009 report on the ponds, Ed Eichner did a rough cut on the phosphorus budget. Some of the work is currently being done. Schell stated his report will be largely a data report and short of a phosphorus budget. Would you be considering a phosphate budget for the mill pond? Nelson explained he would have to discuss with Eichner. HWG will need to meet with Eichner regarding those ponds. They will have septic system recommendations for homes near ponds. Storm water information also applies. The committee thanked Nelson for his time. 3.Status of Pond Project CWPC 7-9-12.docx Page 3 of 5 Development of Phosphorus budget for ponds Leven shared a memo from Ed Eichner. He stated Sondes were scheduled to go in this week for two months. There will be a technical memo after Sondes data is available. The memo is dated 7/3. Schell would like to know when the committee gets the data. Leven estimates mid September. Open meeting law was discussed by the committee. (Re: emails) Schell distributed two memorandum Rages at the meeting, Resolution of Environmental Non-Compliance Issues and Walker's Pond Phosphorus Budget. Schell reviewed a range of phosphorus sources for Walker's Pond. He feels it is important that other significant sources of phosphate be identified. Schell stated Nelson's response was somewhat vague. He asked the committee to endorse the idea of the importance of determining the other sources of phosphates to -'J Walker's Pond. (Including the pipe under Cranview Road) Hughes, P noted the committee has discussed this topic a lot. She stated the committee could not afford to do work on all the ponds. Ask sue for further comments, recording ended here. Hughes supports the idea of asking for an estimate for a full phosphate budget. O'Reilly explained he has experience with this ditch. Schell and O'Reilly discussed. He stated that the pipe is managed by the owner of the bog. O'Reilly did work on this road improvement for Cranview. They found the pipe to be dry. He questioned whether it is a viable source into Walker's Pond. Schell and O'Reilly discussed further. O'Reilly agrees they are connected. He thinks it is bog water and Schell thinks it is storm water. O'Reilly is not opposed to getting an estimate for a phosphorus budget Taylor stated she does not think it is storm water. Schell commented further regarding streams. **The recording stopped at 6:06 pm. Schell asked Skidmore if this could be addressed in September. Hughes J stated Schell is looking for a placeholder for this issue. It may come into the next phase of the study. Several committee members agreed. 4. Public Outreach Day—BCT&Conservation 7-14-12 Discuss CWPC participation Leven explained she has been asked to provide a table, 9-2pm on Saturday. Skidmore is not available, Hughes, J can come at 9am. The event is at Drummer Boy Park. Leven will send a poster to the committee. Hughes, P will be there in the am. Skidmore encouraged anyone who is available to attend. Gallagher will be leading the walks at Crosby. 5. Review minutes from 6/11/12 Review Action Items Moore read one edit from Gallagher/Bennett. Bennett made a Motion to accept the 6/11/12 minutes as corrected, Hughes, J Second, All Aye, Vote 8-0 O'Reilly abstains. The committee reviewed the action items. I 6.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate Bennett asked about if Gallagher received a call from Sandy Zevon. Gallagher stated his office received a call. Bennett stated he received a call about possible discharging/flooding the bogs. The meeting ended at 6:30 pm. Hughes, P, made a Motion to adjourn, Hughes, J Second, All Aye, Vote 9-0. Next Meeting: 7/23/12©4:30pm • R: p- tful •bmitted, ►fit" �i,14,71)2 if V _ 1 Al _AL...-. Dave clerk Kelly oore, Se Department Assistant Planning rPC 7 •- •ocx • Page 4 of 5 CWPC Action Items, Post 7-9-12 Meeting Updated 7-11-12 ACTION ITEMS MI?1:'I'ING COMMEN'T'S LS'I'IMATI:D SI'A"I'US DA'Z'E COMI'LE.TION DATE Status of Bridge Projects: Data Synthesis- GIS/Build-out, Ponds,Storm water Geo- location Horsley Witten(HWG)Phase II ;; list of potential storm water retrofit projects to 6-25-12 Leven/waiting for 7-13-12 = -kg t committee to rank and prioritize list from staff (The outline,the framework and the regulatory 7-9-12 Comments due to 7-13-12 g recommendations)from HWG Leven v Data Synthesis and GIS-Maps accessible from 6-11-12 Leven to follow up Discuss at next lo _ web site—Request from Taylor. with Lambert meeting 7-9-12. regarding options 7-9 People GIS, IT ' currently working with, might address what members are asking for. Build out data review 7-9-12 Leven reviewing Will send to committee Questions to include in tax bills about water 1-9-12 Leven discuss TBD usage.Ask HWG for ideas,online form?Etc. with Mark Nelson Next community presentation, BCT Annual 6-11-12 Nelson to send 7-23-12 x,x, _, Meeting 8/6/12 at BLL presentation 7-19 Nigel and Craig from HWG to present at 7-23 7-23-12 meeting Public Outreach Day—BCT&Conservation 7-14 6-11-12 Leven and others 7-14-12 Decide on CWPC participation will staff a table. Cranberry Growers Association Contact CGA and ask if they might talk to the bog Fall 2011 Leven Leven will follow up 3 owners and find out when discharging into the Kingston Report ponds—to take samples. can be printed for Misc: next meeting 7-23 MS4 Compliance Update 2011 SEA/HWG 6-11 &6-12 ' Bennett asked for reports done by Peter Weiskel 2-27-12 Bennett spoke to Summer .4.t_1 regarding tri town treatment plant Weiskel. Report due out this summer 3 4 CWPC 7-9-12.docx Page 5 of 5 • ,